McCarty's Peculiar Revolver
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2018
- William McCarty patented this turret revolver design in 1909 (submitted in 1908, approved in 1909), with the idea of making a high capacity revolver. His gun held 18 rounds of .22 rimfire ammunition - double the typical .22 revolver capacity. He did that by making a vertical turret system with a large ring to hold the 18 rounds, which in turn made the gun pretty bulky. I had a reader send me a copy of his patent back in 2013, and at the time I didn’t know that one had ever been actually made. Well, there was one - it’s here and also documented in Louis Winant’s book “Firearms Curiosa”. Not surprisingly, the design never made it into mass production…
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> "It's gone a bit full circle..."
> turret revolver
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oof
Rock Island Auction Company dont hold back say what you really think
Rock Island Auction Company UA-cam thinks your comment was posted three weeks ago, RIA is the future lel
Isaac Raschke he made this video in advance and only patreon supporters get private links to watch his early videos before its uploaded on YT. ( i think take this with a grain of salt )
@lefr33man - NEVER!
A reverse Henry. A gun you can shoot on sunday and takes a week to reload.
Nice.
@@SonsOfLorgar they should make a betamag for it at least
@@SonsOfLorgar probably would have been done after a couple trips to the range with those prototypes. I would have added a thumb stud to help push the top cover.
Nah I'd say that's the American 180 especially if you have trouble with over a hundred .22s
Rock Island Auction Company why hello there 👋
"guys cmon don't reinvent the wheel."
"But what if we made the wheel a GUN?"
This is Remnant. EVERYTHING is also a gun.
Hey, revolvers are sometimes called wheel guns, right?
"Jacobs!"
🇺🇸
Looking at this gun it's not surprising that clock makers and gunsmiths had a lot of overlap back in the day.
You're looking at this and I'm just thinking about the G-11 rifle internal's.
keith moore sword smiths use lots of spring steal too but they lack the experience with tiny moving parts
@keith moore A little more than that. Both know how to get small moving parts working properly
Isn't it ironic!? Don't ya think??😂
It really just goes full circle.
looking back on this now, it kind of reminds me of the Zip22. it certainly has the "how the heck am i supposed to hold this thing" aspect to it!
It was truly ahead of its time.
Looks like a musical instrument.
Don't put your mouth up to it
it is it plays the song of freedom
@@gcart7675 freedom for the spirit from the body
I hear it frees the soul.
It only plays doots of death
'Did he fire eighteen shots or only seventeen?' Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I kind of lost track myself. But being that this is a McCarty Turret Revolver, the most unwieldy handgun in the world, and would wound your head somewhat, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, punk?
Genius
A lot Dirtier Harry
“Callahan, turn in your badge and your 20 pound handgun !”
class
AlexR2648 ok, you made me laugh out loud with that comment, much obliged
This looks like something that should have been invented 40 or 50 years before it was actually made. It would fit right in with all of the weird guns of the 1850s or 1860s.
TreeWizard648, my thoughts exactly!
I may have missed the patent date earlier in the video, because at the end I sat here dumbfounded thinking it was 60 years too late. In my head I was saying, "no, of course it'd be .22. short...."
Finally, its the high-capacity Assault revolver everyone's been talking about!
Wheeliam McCarty's patented CartWheel revolver. This is what happens when you put a coffee mug on your blueprints.
It's so heavy that it has a AR style carry handle!
Simple, elegant and clumsy design.
one of those guys Nice profile pic. the dude abides
one of those guys elegant AND clumsy? Bit of an oxymoronic statement there, mate!
one of those guys
It'd be pretty cheap to reproduce today.
But isn't that what we love the most ? :)
Luke, that's, just...like, your, opinion Man. Someone needs a hug.
That's the stupidest looking revolver I think I've ever seen.
I'll take 2.
Lol
Who the hell needs 36 rounds of .22LR?!?
Will someone please think of the children?!? X{D
I'll take 6: 2 for each hand, 1 for each foot
@@jurgensebastiancortescueva8147 Your comment makes me rage. Why do you think your opinion is relevant in any way? Let those guys joke around and move on.
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As silly as this gun is, we have to admire the maker for coming up with a new idea and building it. The only way to find out if an idea is practical is to build it.
"Early attempt at a high capacity revolver", the key word being attempt. That thing has great ergonomics.
Gota love prototypes. Always so interesting.
Assault Frisbee
Underrated. Fucking. Comment
18 shots missed - lethal throw.
High capacity assault revolver. You know what to do.
Cat BAN
I'll only buy it if it has a tactical rail to mount my under barrel assualt chainsaw.
Mud test?
Lee Enfield You can't Ban it yet, you gotta nerf it. Lose 10% capacity for 5% firing speed it also has additional recoil and projectile speed is increased by 20%
what about the bayonet lug??
I dunno. It's impractical. It's Awkward. It's out of my price range... I LOVE IT!
Myra Madd its a simple design, a machinist could probably fabricate it
Avitus Nonius Midwestern Legion look up ecco machine he does way better than this to be honest
Would it not have worked better on a rifle?
Got to admire these innovative thinkers, even if their ideas are occasionally ridiculous.
They kinda did, the Porter turret rifle is a good example
This was my thought also. It reminded me of the chain revolver. Another design that would be terrific on a rifle!
The difference between a genius inventor and a crackpot is that one had enough luck to end up on something that stood the test of time.
@@kickazz9473 if you're thinking of the Guycot chain gun, there were absolutely rifle versions, they held 100 shots!
If you meant the actual revolver with the more traditional chain, there was also rifle that's kinda similar to that, though the name currently escapes me.
Edit: I was thinking of the Treeby Chain Gun
@@Ezekiel_Allium wow those are cool I had never seen/heard of either of those! Thanks
It's utterly awkward, overly complex, effectively obsolete when it was designed, and useless in the modern era
I want it
Matthew Palmer It kind of looks steampunky in a way
Aye, it really does. Slap some brass gears on it!
@@matthewpalmer7184 steampunk is about having *working* gears and other overcomplicated mechanisms, sir!
@@ScottKenny1978 so it is not a steampunk as it is not complicated at all...
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I’m not even into firearms but I love this channel, it’s so interesting and extremely well informed, I love the historical context as well as all the mechanical breakdowns!
This thing was loaded at the factory and had to be sent back to be re-loaded😂
Apple style XD
Brandon roberts Walmart had a reload service where you got it back in a week but this was reduced to a one-hour service…
NATO underwater pistol anyone?
This seems like it would be a really cool CAD and/or 3D printer project to recreate... seems simple enough, and would probably work okay if your math and machining is good. Nobody is gonna come after you for the patent, so... I hope it is somebody's weekend project 😊
Can't imagine why it never caught on 😂😂
Christopher MacLennan Can't imagine why the holy handgrenade caught on
Wouldn't the reloading door have to be inside the ring to actually function?
At least it should with any current rimmed, tapered or bottlenecked cartridge, it might work with one of those reverse tapered patent circumvention oddities or maybe with an entirely straight one.
One inside and one outside.
Poke the old cartridge through the trigger... (doughnut?) With a rod and load in reverse?
it looks like a brake disk lol
it is it stops whoever you need to shoot with it
@@gcart7675 nice
Seems easyer to overcome drug adiction than to reload and fire this thing...
Let's find out
Looks more like a compelling argument to why drugs dont belong in engineering.
No way.
@@Wavemaninawe drugs definitely belong in engineering, Steve Jobs got all his ideals from LSD for example..
And Trump got his ideals from crack cocaine, he was able to do really well in the debates by being insanely cracked out.
@@helpabrothawithasubisaiah5316 Sorry, we said engineering. Jobs was in marketing.
“It’s gone full circle”
Lol, good one
Hey Ian, keep it up whether it’s on UA-cam or anything else, just keep up the awesome work
By far, this is the coolest gun I’ve seen you present on this show. So cool. Thanks!
I love these weird and wonderful and impractical designs of this period. Nobody seemed to know quite what was the right or wrong way to design a gun and they were all trying to avoid infringing each others patents. Keep up the good work, Ian.
I love the thinking in this mecanism... nice !
Wrap music wire around the rim inside and make the hammer operate off the ring and you'd have a rip-roarin-rapid-rotary-revolver!
That was really great. I've never seen one of these. Thank you
Why is Ian the most interesting guy in existence. Seriously. I love these videos 75% because of Ian, 25% because of these cool ass guns.
It can be the wildest, weirdest, most obscure firearm in the world and Ian has a years-old blog post and dry pun for it.
@@dcurry7287 we forever love gun jesus
2:02 Fires AROUND!!!! hahahahaha
Hmm, I was expecting it to be the same sort of size as one of those Chicago pocket pistols
Mike Stroz Same. Turns out it’s massive
But then what would it shoot? Kolibri rounds?
Best narrator I've ever come across! I Love his work.
thank you for your service
Now, this one is a forgotten weapon. Really like its simplicity though.
Really beautiful construction of a really stupid idea :).
Bullets pointing at you in a magazine is a stupid idea, but its far more dangerous with black powder guns where chainfire is a more common problem.
Platfus Rodzer You can easily survive getting your fingers blown off. Taking a few rounds to the face might be a bit harder.
benn454
There are reasons we need barrels even small ones and that is to help build up the pressure and guide the projectile.The rounds in the other chambers if they explode (extremely unlikely,maybe even impossible) they are not gonna act like bullets but more like an extremely wimpy hand grenade.So in the end even if it fails the result wont be too different from a mosern pistol failing.
r/ATBGE
Plausible risk with this type of guns is hang fire.
I love seeing these weird early guns. It's interesting seeing all these outlandish designs people came up with before a handful of designs dominated the market.
Some of these guns you demonstrate are just plain bizarre, but they're interesting. I've been designing a pistol (and a carbine too) with a lot of outside-the-box features that I thought were totally original, only to learn that someone else had the same idea many years earlier.
When I saw that thumbnail I was expecting some kind of palm pistol. Then the video started and holy shit that thing is gigantic.
Reloading Instructions:
1. Throw at nearest enemy.
2. Grab a new gun.
3. Repeat until gun supply is depleted.
Ah yes, Tediore gun insurance.
Haha nice@@jays.6843
Nice, I was looking forward to see a video on this gun.
It's so darn simple and I'm surprised it wasn't thought of earlier!
it looks like a pistol version of that assault rifle from Deus Ex
Which one?
Sad to see such innovation to so little effect.
I love all the weird guns you find.
That is by far one of the most unique pistols ive ever seen. Not at all practical but, cool non the less.
That thing is neat. Kinda weird, kinda dumb, but... very interesting.
I saw the thumbnail and thought it was one of those car wheels to play Mario cart wii
Nice review broooo!!!!
“Full-circle”
Oh Ian, you slay us!
That cylinder must be very prone to friction. Also cross threading on the cover plate. An interrupted thread or snap catch would have made more sense.
GunFun ZS same thought
What a clever bit of engineering and geometry. Shame about everything else.
Your a genius brother. You need 1 million followers. Anyone could pitch you any gun and you could tell them every detail about it
This works in a similar way to one of my hypothetical twin 5” gun designs. 6 slot drum per gun, each drum rotating towards the center of the turret. As the drums are the breaches, they don’t work like a Gatling gun, as this drum locks in place behind the barrel to fire. Once the shell has been fired, it rotates to the upper center area center position, then the case is ejected out the front of the gun. In the bottom center, the drum slot is reloaded. The turret does not fire both barrels at the same time, but one at a time. So when the left gun fires, it’s recoil resets the right gun, and the right guns recoil arms the left gun. This is primarily to reduce the built up heat in the guns while increasing the fire rate when compared to a modern 5” gun turret.
IF you wanted to make something better out of a design like this would it be a good idea to have a thumbhole where the trigger is now and have a grip with trigger on the outside of the cylinder?
With the trigger outside the cylinder you then have the issue of needing to go around the cylinder with a trigger bar. Not a bad idea, but it would take some extra tinkering.
Nawww man, you go full on "anachronism stew" and use electrically primed ammo like the Remington EtronX.
anachronism stew XD
This is where the Rhino got its design?
the resemblance is...uncanny
With the fully internal hammer, yes. I love the "carry handle" above the barrel tho'.
The best part about this channel are just the super weird guns, like this, the poacher guns and the craft made guns.
You're one of the few channels whose thumbnails cannot be clickbait, and I am compelled the click on them whenever I see these psychotic looking weapons
A bit steampunkish lol
Last time i was this early Ian wore a red shirt
Really cool to see how much of that gun is incorporated into a single casting. Production costs would probably be pretty low as a result.
“this has gone a bit full circle” i’m inclined to agree
Is this not an AOW as it just doesn't look like a gun? At all.
Also if it chain fires, you lose the whole hand.
The Cynical Boy nope. The barrel and trigger are easily distinguishable and even the most sheltered would likely identify it as a gun.
not very practical after firing all 18 shots
Unless a turn-of-the-century game of frisbee broke out.
If you fire 18 shots at someone and they keep coming, you deserve what happens next.
Stop the battle for 2 hours to reload your gun 😂
Or before.
Very interesting, thank you for sharing this.
I like that the round revolver went full circle!
Hmm, looks like something that California politicians would say needs to be implemented on all firearms. You know, disassembly required to reload. LOL!
I have to say, it's probably one of my favorite firing mechanisms now.
A beautifully simple mechanism.
I love this channel!!!!
Say, 100 years from now or so, this video might be a really valuable historical record I think.
Just shows what someone who has an idea can come up with thanks for showing
Thinking outside the box. Gotta love it
People did make some really weird guns back in the days..i love it
I like it, alot of potential with this design
I was listening to this while I was driving. When he said there was a wheel of cylinders, I was amazed and was trying to figure out how that could work. Went back to the video when I got home and was disappointed
The grip: index finger through that large oval above the barrel (see that chamfer there to make it comfy?) and probably middle or ring finger through the trigger guard on the trigger. The pinky goes through the little ring at the bottom.
I have always wanted to see this gun!
Man, you're not afraid to take apart anything!
You know that looks like something that would be fun just to machine out of a block and play with to see if you could make it at all practical.
0:28 made me die. No joke I crawled off my bed from laughter at “full circle” I shouldn’t have
Hi ian im a long time viewer and i have to say this is one of the most informative gun channels on youtube. Im just inquiring about the ww1 expedition you plan to do later this year. When will this take place? Kind regards
Eoin Lucey
Not often you get all this neatness in one place.
So cool! It needs a larger caliber, a detachable shoulder stock and a longer barrel though!
I love these weird little curios of firearms history.
I can see this in a steampunk alternate reality as a standard for all pistols
what a wild design!!
You're the only content maker I like before I watch
angle of the dangle allows for a higher setting shaft too
Honesly this looks like an enlarged palm revolver. Pinky goes in the loop at the bottom, ring finger pulls trigger, pointer finger goes towards the smooth groove between sights and barrel.
Incredible
Do these auction houses ever let you take these awesome guns to the range?
Also I'm glad to see you're still on YT I love your videos keep up the good work.
I shoot a selection of guns at the James Julia auction house, but it's not practical at Rock Island for several reasons.
master of the understatement
If they could get the ergonomics of this having the trigger centred and essentially the whole back of the gun being the grip they could make a deringer with a decent size grip