HOW BAD is Windows 10 on a Budget Laptop from 2006?

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  • @lalzou1500
    @lalzou1500 10 місяців тому +45

    Why? Because why not!

  • @chanukanadun
    @chanukanadun 10 місяців тому +29

    I'm hooked. We need to see the linux video.

  • @PotatoMusic5005
    @PotatoMusic5005 10 місяців тому +4

    nice video, im your 600th subscriber btw

    • @PotatoMusic5005
      @PotatoMusic5005 10 місяців тому

      Remember me when you are very popular!

  • @dw_2005
    @dw_2005 10 місяців тому +19

    One idea you could have done is Taken the built in vista drivers and tried them on windows 10. Windows vista uses WDDM 1.0 for its driver model, and I’m pretty sure Windows 10 still supports WDDM 1.0 (windows 11 definitely doesn’t). You could install vista, find the video device and look for the driver files it’s using then import those files into windows 10 and try it

    • @mustasheolll2020
      @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому +1

      GMA 900 cannot handle WDDM, it doesn’t have a hardware scheduler which is a requirement

    • @dw_2005
      @dw_2005 10 місяців тому +2

      @@mustasheolll2020Makes sense, But doesnt Vista have a WDDM 1.0 driver still though? Once i got Vista working with a Geforce4 MX 440, no aero naturally but the driver said WDDM 1.0 next to the name of the device. That driver came with Vista and was a Microsoft branded driver.

    • @Evgen13Great
      @Evgen13Great 2 місяці тому

      I think there's a way you can install Vista then upgrade it to Windows 10 and it maybe keep the Vista video driver in Windows 10

  • @crazyjake2016
    @crazyjake2016 10 місяців тому +6

    I have an HP Pavilion dv2000 Entertainment PC from 2006 with Ubuntu Linux installed. The laptop originally had Windows Vista but I changed it to Ubuntu. It runs better on Ubuntu than it does on Windows Vista. The laptop is 17 years old and even has a working battery.

  • @attag_ua
    @attag_ua 10 місяців тому +5

    I remember using Windows 10 on Aspire 5315 from 2008 with Celeron 540 and 3 GB DDR2 in 2018. Whole laptop runed on patience and prayers and worked only on Windows 10 1709. Newer version not even worked, they freezed at installation stage. I'm happy that then I built i3-6100 PC, which at least worked without problems and runned some games

  • @techobottr
    @techobottr 10 місяців тому +9

    Don't think you're limited with Dell's driver page. I recommend trying to search for GPU's hardware ID and if you find a 32 bit driver, it's gonna work anyways so give it a try

  • @MegaTerryNutkins
    @MegaTerryNutkins 10 місяців тому +2

    This was the first new laptop I bought, was really impressed with it at the time. Was only £350 here although it was the smaller screen/huge bezels version, later upgraded it to 2gb ram.

  • @Iqaluitio
    @Iqaluitio 10 місяців тому +14

    You're really underrated, I enjoy your video a whole lot, and I thought you would have 10k subs at least. You deserve more

    • @betapyteag
      @betapyteag  10 місяців тому +1

      thank you! maybe someday that will be the case…

    • @Iqaluitio
      @Iqaluitio 10 місяців тому

      @@betapyteag I just realized, I meant videos*

    • @mintybudgie
      @mintybudgie 10 місяців тому

      agreed

  • @Illusca
    @Illusca 10 місяців тому +5

    noticed snappy driver installer mentioning the driver wasn't signed I wonder if windows would have at least tried to use it if driver signature enforcement was turned off... idk tho

    • @betapyteag
      @betapyteag  10 місяців тому +1

      I actually tried this off camera but it didn’t change anything

  • @powerdollkirby
    @powerdollkirby 10 місяців тому +4

    installing linux on it is the only way to revive or make something that old usable

    • @MortCodesWeb
      @MortCodesWeb 10 місяців тому +1

      Trust me. It will run worse. Distros dont have any features to tone down animations and stuff like windows does. But XFCE works alr

    • @powerdollkirby
      @powerdollkirby 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@MortCodesWeblol that just a lie, linux will always perform better than windows, certainly in gaming, depends
      saying it will run worse or "Distros don't have any features to tone down animations like windows does" shows how little you know about linux.
      arch, manjaro, lubuntu, anti x, mint will run way better than windows no matter what
      also, XFCE is a desktop environment, not a distro

    • @powerdollkirby
      @powerdollkirby 10 місяців тому +2

      @mrfoxesiteLOL WHAT
      linux still supports 32bit what tf are you on
      there is arch linux 32bit, debian, mint, void, opensuse. porteus, alpine, zorin and way more.
      idk what you mean by "dvanced technical terminal only distros support 32-bit"

    • @mustasheolll2020
      @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

      It was so close, only the graphics 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @WalterKnox
    @WalterKnox 5 місяців тому

    The Dell Latitude D610 is still my main laptop. I just got a new battery for it and upgraded it to an IDE SSD (really an MSATA enclosure) a few months ago. It originally belonged to my elementary school, and I used it through the 4th and 5th grade, when they "upgraded" their systems from XP to 7 in 2014, I refused to give it up, so the IT lady took it and installed a clean copy of XP on it, and told me on the last day of school to stick it in my bag and not say anything. I used it all through middle school, and all through high school, and I just finished a 2 year college program (electrical systems technology) which I used it through as well; after that I rewarded it with the new battery and SSD, and it runs quite well with it.
    It has the MAX CPU, 2.26 GHz Pentium M, 2GB RAM, and the ATI graphics. That machine went through hell and back (me as a kid was not nice to anything,) and only one screen and 2 keyboards later it is still a very solid machine which does all I ask of it. Using a Pentium M in 2024 is still viable as long as you aren't using something like Windows 10, which will be quite poor.

  • @charginginprogresss
    @charginginprogresss 10 місяців тому +4

    Try windows 8.1 and see if the graphic drivers work on there.
    I remember handling some 2005-2007 laptops at workplace, and every single one that was forcibly updated to windows 10 32 bit had driver issues, half of them couldn't get the network to work.
    But the windows 7/8.1 ones worked fine and could recognize drivers.
    Worth a shot imo.
    Also there are extra updates you can get until around 2026 with windows 8.1, through legacy update and other tools, as they are pulled from official long time support versions of actual windows.

    • @mustasheolll2020
      @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

      Windows 8+ uses the same graphics drivers as Vista

    • @mustasheolll2020
      @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

      This is why people didn’t like Vista.

  • @ChrigamingDK
    @ChrigamingDK 10 місяців тому +7

    I got this recommented

  • @whitebeartigtig
    @whitebeartigtig 10 місяців тому +2

    all the pain with the graphics driver makes me wonder if that Vista driver would work with driver signature enforcement disabled. Otherwise, in my experience, Windows 8.0 seems to work fine with Vista graphics drivers, so that could be worth a go.

    • @betapyteag
      @betapyteag  10 місяців тому

      I tried disabling drive signature enforcement on startup but it didn’t change anything.

    • @whitebeartigtig
      @whitebeartigtig 10 місяців тому

      @@betapyteag damn, was worth a try

    • @mustasheolll2020
      @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

      The GMA 900 cannot run WDDM period because it doesn’t have a Hardware scheduler which is a requirement for WDDM I believe.

    • @mustasheolll2020
      @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

      But you can see in the video that it emulated WDDM, albeit, like crap.

    • @mustasheolll2020
      @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

      Many people back then bought these “Vista Capable” laptops back then but then no WDDM driver. Mike Nash from Microsoft fell victim to this himself. But they weren’t labeled premium ready, which had a GPU (like GMA 950) that could run WDDM, but I don’t care, I will never trust Microsoft again with these kinds of things.

  • @AustinWithAHead
    @AustinWithAHead 10 місяців тому +2

    Please do a video on the 2018 dell inspirion. Its the one I used to use and its SLOW

  • @MattsTech
    @MattsTech 10 місяців тому +3

    Windows 7 would realistically be your best option in terms of Windows support on that laptop. While you might even be able to find an “enhanced” basic driver that gives you the native resolution of that laptop, and I’ve seen that with older Windows versions, it’s not going to be better than just using Windows 7 with the native XP driver.
    In terms of Linux, modern Linux kernels still have the 910/915 chipset driver built-in, however, performance is lackluster, to say the least. While it depends on the Linux distro you choose, you’ll likely have sluggish performance across all modern distros simply due to the fact that the iGPU doesn’t have enough power to run the fancy animations and effects they use.
    So ultimately, it’s up to your personal preference. :)

  • @EastAngliaUK
    @EastAngliaUK 10 місяців тому +1

    be good to see more laptops

  • @mousecursor0
    @mousecursor0 10 місяців тому +1

    try to disable driver signature enforcement by pressing f8 on startup

  • @falcconplanes
    @falcconplanes 10 місяців тому +2

    your videos have such high quality. i am actually impressed.
    how do you have only 600subs? u deserve 600k subs

  • @maxweII_demon
    @maxweII_demon 10 місяців тому

    Trying to play any kind of game on this thing would be so painful
    Would be like making inputs in a different timeline and waiting for it to catch up

  • @mustasheolll2020
    @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

    The GMA 900 unfortunately couldn’t run WDDM because according to Intel it lacked a hardware scheduler. Sucks too because it was a very popular chip in laptops right before Vista’s release.

  • @gabrielv.4358
    @gabrielv.4358 10 місяців тому

    I know for a fact that windows 10 and 11 were forcing updates, i changed the registry and it never bothered me again.

  • @joshualim5387
    @joshualim5387 10 місяців тому

    There's a way to disable Windows update from running an auto update. I've not tried it on manual updates. So it might not allow manual updating of Windows. What you can do is that you can go to services and disable Windows Update. What that does is that it causes Windows to fail to update.

  • @fcfcth
    @fcfcth 8 місяців тому

    How did you manage to boot Windows 10 on a Pentium M735 if it doesn't have the NX bit?

  • @Dis_Dude_Ben
    @Dis_Dude_Ben 10 місяців тому

    I have a Compaq CQ60-215DX, I was able to find a graphic driver, but what I realized is that your cpu stays at a fixed speed, mine which I upgraded goes from 0.55 or lower to 2.20ghz, also your ram speed is 99mhz and mine is like 667mhz.

  • @ThePeter567
    @ThePeter567 7 місяців тому

    I would install Windows 8.1 honestly because it got security updates up to 2023, where this 2017 version of Windows 10 probablt didn't get updates that long. You can also try Windows 10 LTSB 2016, but it may be hard to obtain an ISO and activate it

  • @publicpm8809
    @publicpm8809 10 місяців тому

    Try 32 bit windows 7 ultimate or super lite, its only 600-700MB and will pickup the drivers as well or you can use any android OS, there are many so youhave to try then them and dont even need installation, simply run them from usb for testing.

  • @cedarthemidiguy
    @cedarthemidiguy 10 місяців тому

    Windows 10 Enterprise is favourable for a vanilla install though, as it only has the base OS without the bloatware and the forced upgrades.

  • @kotohime
    @kotohime 10 місяців тому +1

    Dell's unsupported laptops are very picky with Windows versions that exceed their release dates, from my experience at least. I personally recommend sticking with the system that their site has drivers for, otherwise it's nearly always a miss. Snappy Driver helps a lot in some instances, but I always opt for using their drivers due to proper compatibility with the hardware. I had this issue plenty of times where a driver from SDI would cause the GPU driver to go bad, and just black screen, leaving me only with formatting and reinstalling the fresh OS again.
    I tried Win 10 on E5500, E6510 and E6520
    On Win 10 the only thing that 'sorta' worked were video card drivers downloaded from Windows Update. These however lacked a control panel, but the system felt smoother actually, than with the drivers for Win 7.
    E5500 just lagged heavily, and the control panel didn't respect the changes made in it.
    E6510 however always had a black screen with the Win 7 drivers on 10.
    Both of these came with some sort of Intel GMA's, which I don't think even have official support for anything newer than Win 7.
    The E6520 I have came with some NVIDIA card, and it also acted strangely, mainly it just stuttered in the system, despite the control panel being there. I even tried a driver from NVIDIA's site directly, but it actually caused a black screen.
    Maybe something is wrong with that laptop though, as it always displays "ME is in recovery mode." upon booting. The supposed solution for that was to flash the BIOS. I went through all the versions, but it still remained, so I don't even know what went wrong with it. As long as it works though, I'm gonna keep using it as a portable movie player. The 1080p screen in these has really great viewing angles. I had once got my hands on E6500 with 1980x1200, but I passed it over to a friend. It was also of great quality despite not being IPS.
    Overall, it gets quite sickening, but that's just how it is with these.
    ThinkPad users seem to have it way easier, as I've seen plenty of people installing 10 or even 11 on stuff like T61 or T400. While CPU is significantly suffering there, they at least have all the drivers working properly.
    At least E6x30 series supports Win 10 natively (and by that regard, Win 11 works there swell too!).

    • @dfuserxyz
      @dfuserxyz 10 місяців тому

      The Latitude E6420 with the NVS 4200M works fine. You might have either a bad driver or a bad GPU.

    • @WildEuphoricEnergy
      @WildEuphoricEnergy 10 місяців тому

      it would also break opengl support on intel gma chips, so if you wanted to play minecraft you can't

    • @kotohime
      @kotohime 10 місяців тому

      @@WildEuphoricEnergy Intel GMA's and Minecraft portray a quite funny behavior. I remember D510 and D520 not running the game at all, under any system. I tried it on Windows versions from 2k all the way to 7, and on some revision of Ubuntu, it was 16.04 if I'm not mistaken. However I just assume that the GMA in there was just outdated. Someone once suggested me that the driver may be just outdated and needs an update, but I haven't found anything newer than 2006. I can't check what GMA it was in these laptops, but I assume it just lacked OpenGL 2.0 in general.

    • @kitten7466
      @kitten7466 3 місяці тому

      E5500 with Core 2 Duo and 4 GB ram, with net framework, display driver and SD card reader driver can run the RTM Win 10 fine. On modern Win 10 it lags very bad. As I tried Vista runs the best on it, 8.1 and RTM 10 runs fine too but its important to install drivers and disable Windows Update.

  • @Solinaru
    @Solinaru 10 місяців тому

    hecc yeah! good video

  • @mw2ghostlover
    @mw2ghostlover 10 місяців тому

    you could try get drivers with driver booster

  • @RealOny
    @RealOny 10 місяців тому +1

    You should probably try XP with an extended kernel or Linux!

  • @VertekPlus
    @VertekPlus 10 місяців тому

    what about using iobit's driver booster?

  • @pajagames20
    @pajagames20 10 місяців тому

    I'm impressed it did not exploded

  • @derekhatake
    @derekhatake 9 місяців тому

    Best Channel ever.

  • @BaconKingOfficial
    @BaconKingOfficial 6 місяців тому

    How did you manage to boot Windows 10 on a Pentium M 735? My Toshiba SL10-117 has the came CPU (upgraded from Celeron M 370 to Pentium M 735), but it has no PAE/NX according to coreinfo. (PAE flag is missing even though it's supported)

  • @devara_ma
    @devara_ma 10 місяців тому

    Actually, try Chrome OS Flex. I'm curious how would that go.

  • @idk13212
    @idk13212 10 місяців тому +1

    i want to see a linux and a hackintosh video :3

    • @idk13212
      @idk13212 9 місяців тому

      HELP MY COMMENT GOT MENTIONED IN THE NEXT VID ABOUT THIS

  • @Momakzbrega-jv9ib
    @Momakzbrega-jv9ib 10 місяців тому

    Well too bad the GMA900 never got fully DX9 compliant, otherwise it would definitely work and we'd even have fully working Windows 10 on the first EeePC, considering the chipset is identical and the Celeron M 353 on it supports all needed for Win10

    • @mustasheolll2020
      @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

      And these were labeled “Vista Capable” 😂

  • @CallMeCJorDandy
    @CallMeCJorDandy 10 місяців тому

    Bruh they need to do somethung about this , cuz my 2014 laptop is dying becuz of updates, especially is video games , they increase the system min reuquirements when it feels the same FPS anyways 🙄

  • @sebysebyt12
    @sebysebyt12 10 місяців тому

    3dp chip for drivers

  • @splatt3d
    @splatt3d 10 місяців тому

    I noticed you installed 32 bit Windows. Does the laptop support 64 bit OS?

  • @laimons43
    @laimons43 10 місяців тому +3

    u should try windows server 2016/19/22 or maybe ltsc/ltsb, they are good for old pcs (if no 64x like on this pc try ltsc/ltsb, and especially older builds)

  • @taiga9675
    @taiga9675 10 місяців тому

    i tried using speccy, is there any reason why a 1080ti is reporting 3000 MB of physical memory?

    • @betapyteag
      @betapyteag  10 місяців тому +1

      i believe speccy is finicky with modern hardware. could be wrong though

    • @taiga9675
      @taiga9675 10 місяців тому

      @@betapyteag yeah, I tried a benchmark and I was using 9GB and and number was confused it kept changing but the strange part is in the details page in the text as you go down it's shows the 11GB, still for everything else is correct and a useful tool, thank you for showing us all this 🙏

  • @jjohnson71958
    @jjohnson71958 9 місяців тому

    it has to e the dell windows 10 oem version

  • @sajtcraft3473
    @sajtcraft3473 10 місяців тому

    this is like my school n100 hp on win 11

  • @ConnerPlaysROBLOX
    @ConnerPlaysROBLOX 10 місяців тому +1

    SSD'S/Solid state drives are better then hard drives ssds have no moving parts while hard drives do

    • @betapyteag
      @betapyteag  10 місяців тому

      yeah i know that, this laptop is IDE so i can’t use anything like that.

  • @randomuser8219-g2g
    @randomuser8219-g2g 9 місяців тому

    Barely any I/O? That's basically a prediction of Apple removing almost all the ports on the 2015 MacBook (only 1 USB-C and headphone jack!)

  • @kokodin5895
    @kokodin5895 10 місяців тому

    with ssd it world almost work, with hdd i don't think you have a chance
    i have very similar computer running windows 7 even though it came with celeron m 1300 no os and windows xp home and harddrive is the biggest bottleneck of vista and windows 10 not so much for windows 7 surprisingly
    with windows 7 when i tryed again and again to force newest windows xp drivers for the graphics it eventually gobbled it and kind of work but i doubt it can work with windows 10
    edit
    intel 852gm on windows 7 non wdm driver

  • @beardsntools
    @beardsntools 10 місяців тому +1

    I'd just drive a fist through the laptop screen, it's the only thing that this laptop deserves.

    • @mustasheolll2020
      @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

      Yeah it aged poorly, if it were a 1 or 2 newer it would have been fine.

    • @mustasheolll2020
      @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

      What so bad about it?

  • @Windows_NT_Dude
    @Windows_NT_Dude 10 місяців тому

    Better than my purple HP Stream Laptop from 2018/2019.

    • @mustasheolll2020
      @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

      There were useless since factory! I used used a Pentium M laptop in 2015 running Windows 8. It ran alright but no video driver so kind of ugly at times.

  • @mustasheolll2020
    @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

    Realistically this laptop cannot run anything past 7 well, in fact, even that’s a stretch.

  • @Phone.Gamer.Nexus0
    @Phone.Gamer.Nexus0 10 місяців тому

    personaly i do the same with all my tech

  • @qwertykeyboard5901
    @qwertykeyboard5901 6 місяців тому

    I love the Pentium M.

  • @Shadow-The-Hedgehog1950
    @Shadow-The-Hedgehog1950 10 місяців тому

    Try installing windows 11 (you can bypass requierments trought registry)

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 10 місяців тому

    yea you probably would have more luck installing linux on an HP stream than this. at least the HP streams are great linux laptops and have great keyboards and a decent touchpad
    also you can still get about 6 hours from the battery to this day for me.

  • @kingxb4d
    @kingxb4d 10 місяців тому

    "Why?" "idk" lmao

  • @GamingScout682
    @GamingScout682 5 місяців тому

    BRUH I got a 2007 laptop it runs windows 10 20H2/2009 Update

  • @mustasheolll2020
    @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

    If it had a graphics driver, it would have been fine.

  • @leonidas14775
    @leonidas14775 10 місяців тому

    I would put windows XP or 7 on it for running old windows programs. While a linux distro itself would be more responsive than windows 10 on this laptop, consider how bloated modern web browsers and the modern internet are. They'll slow it to a crawl.

    • @mustasheolll2020
      @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I would say for these budget 2005/2006 computers, 7 at latest and even that’s a stretch.

  • @kronos_1337.
    @kronos_1337. 10 місяців тому

    Drinking game: take a shot every time he says "update" "driver" or "graphics"

  • @phoneguy864-gg1ve
    @phoneguy864-gg1ve 6 місяців тому

    tiny11 next

  • @darius-m3p
    @darius-m3p 10 місяців тому

    Now try my old PC... 2 GB of ram

  • @PrinceKufreAkai
    @PrinceKufreAkai 3 місяці тому

    Bro use windows 8

  • @weelebaseknowles4410
    @weelebaseknowles4410 10 місяців тому

    Bro use windows 7

    • @loveatomb
      @loveatomb 10 місяців тому +2

      no, unsupported bad operating system

  • @mustasheolll2020
    @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

    Windows 10 does look good on that laptop though.

  • @gabrielv.4358
    @gabrielv.4358 10 місяців тому

    I laugh, because my faculty computers have the same specs as this laptop LOLOL, IT FACULTY

    • @gabrielv.4358
      @gabrielv.4358 10 місяців тому

      First gen i7 and 8gb of ram. It lags more than this laptop, weirldly

  • @AgataFreyer
    @AgataFreyer 8 місяців тому

    Put in SSD drive!!!!!!

  • @TNTMusic5757
    @TNTMusic5757 10 місяців тому +2

    Windows: _Sucks_
    People: "If I want to keep using this, I can't have graphics!"
    Linux: _Exists_
    People: Boring!

  • @stevejobs1955
    @stevejobs1955 10 місяців тому

    Put Tiny 11 on it

  • @gabrielv.4358
    @gabrielv.4358 10 місяців тому

    I think it's better to use windows 7 on it lol

  • @c_Gmz
    @c_Gmz 10 місяців тому

    Bro try using driver booster to install the graphics driver

    • @PrinceKufreAkai
      @PrinceKufreAkai 3 місяці тому

      it does not work because the intel 915 graphics is not WDDM.

  • @dragonxblkangelx216
    @dragonxblkangelx216 10 місяців тому

    Keep Windows xp

  • @TamFishe
    @TamFishe 10 місяців тому

    linux? why not for science!

  • @Jerkwad152
    @Jerkwad152 2 місяці тому

    Arch Linux with Fluxbox, man!

  • @devara_ma
    @devara_ma 10 місяців тому +1

    School Laptop:

  • @PrinceKufreAkai
    @PrinceKufreAkai 3 місяці тому

    I think it's better to use windows 8 lol

  • @Yourlocalguy08
    @Yourlocalguy08 3 місяці тому

    Play roblox on the dell

  • @techrazor3280
    @techrazor3280 10 місяців тому +2

    Linux is a Boring option. Agreed!!

    • @loveatomb
      @loveatomb 10 місяців тому +1

      how is it boring

    • @agoston9835
      @agoston9835 10 місяців тому

      Only thing that will run on this old laptop is some lightweight linux distro or winxp/vista. Also linux is not boring if you know how to use it , which is not really hard you have lot of tutorials on the internet .

    • @mustasheolll2020
      @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

      Honestly, I would just take your money and buy a better computer at this point, this laptop was dated since 2008!

  • @mustasheolll2020
    @mustasheolll2020 10 місяців тому

    Honestly, it’s a hunk of hot garbage. Damn thing can’t even run WDDM?

  • @MEMAbdelhay
    @MEMAbdelhay 10 місяців тому

    HELL NAHHHHH why? its for science i think your trying blow up your house hmmm interesting

  • @DailyClipsOnStreamers
    @DailyClipsOnStreamers 10 місяців тому

    This guy is me