jordanromaker In terms of it never being mentioned in any of the Super Smash Bros games (at least very hardly, like just being one sticker and a mention on the chronology list of released Nintedo game), you are indeed alone.
Are you trying to be a troll, or are you just genuinely this stupid? You're *seriously* appealing to Super Smash Bros. as some barometer to gauge how well-liked certain games are? Talk about grasping at straws; this is downright desperate. And besides, if you really wanted to go that route, then let's not forget that the game is *BEING INCLUDED IN THE NES CLASSIC EDITION* this very video is discussing; clearly this is not a decision Nintendo would make unless they felt it would help sell their product, which would only be possible if the game had a strong fan-base. To overlook that is simply denial. Look dude, I get you don't like the game. I accept that. But for you to be this out of touch with what gamers at large actually think about the game outside your own opinion is delusional.
"Why did it take Nintendo so long?" Because Satoru Iwata would NEVER allow this to happen. It took a change in leadership for Nintendo to realize a plug and play NES will make dollars, therefore it makes sense.
Not really, Nintendo probably didn't make one cause there was no reason to do so back at the time. Besides this may just be a one time thing to celebrate the NES annual anniversary rather than what AtGames and Sega are doing.
I agree SMB 3 is my favorite NES Mario game and I definitely love it more than Super Mario World. SMB 2 is my second favorite and to me is a better Mario sequel than The Lost Levels.
I definitely agree that Super Mario Bros. 2 is better than The Lost Levels. The Japanese SMB2 just isn't a very good game. I like how different Super Mario Bros. 2 is, but it never felt like a true Mario sequel (for obvious reasons). Super Mario Bros. 3 will always be my favorite Mario sequel.
Defunct Games At least it felt like a sequel. New graphics, music, game mechanics, playable characters, new story, and etc. Meanwhile The Lost Levels felt like an expansion. But yes SMB 3 is my favorite Mario sequel as well and I love it.
hope they make an snes classic....game suggestions? 1.super street fighter2....2.sunset riders...3.super Mario world...4.mortal kombat II...5.super Mario RPG....6.star fox...7.earthworm Jim...8.F zero...9.super Mario Kart...10.super ghouls 'n ghosts....11.super street fighter alpha3...12.metal warriors...14.X-men mutant apocalypse...15.marvel super heroes war of the gems...16.castlevania lords of shadow...17.legend of Zelda link to the past...18.Donkey Kong country...18.super punch out...19.killer instinct..20.doom...21.secret of mana...22.final fantasy VI...23.super metroid...24.chrono trigger...25.mortal kombat 3....26.super r type....27.megaman X ...28.gradius....29.donkey Kong country 2 diddys quest........ .....what do you think of my list?
There are so many great Super NES games to choose from, it's hard to narrow it down to just a couple dozen. I agree with many of the games on your list, especially when it comes to F-Zero, Mario Kart, Mario World, Super Ghouls 'N Ghosts, Donkey Kong Country, Super Punch-Out, Mega Man X and Super Metroid. I also agree that the system needs to have games from Enix and Square, including ActRaiser, Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI. If I had to add to that list, I would like to see Flashback: Quest for Identity, UN Squadron, Contra III, Zombies Ate My Neighbors, Earthbound, Rock 'N Roll Racing, Axelay, Super Castlevania IV and Pocky & Rocky. I would like to see both the well-known Super NES games and the hidden gems that rarely get ported.
as in movies, the rating depends on your own experience, so if you like the the games it does not mean you have to not like it because of reviews, I think
I've heard that rumored, but see no evidence of it. While early shipments may sell out, I suspect there will be enough to go around throughout the holiday season (and beyond).
Definitely not the only person. Ideally, the system would have both Contra games. They both offer something different and are fun. However, I'm 100% with you on the removal of Castlevania II: Simon's Quest. Thanks to the poor translation (and plodding gameplay), it's one of the few Castlevania games that doesn't do anything for me. Ninja Gaiden II, on the other hand, is one of the best games of all time.
+Defunct Games ninja gaiden was one of the first games I play on the new other then the mario trilogy and punch out, but I never had the system I always had to use an emulator
ninja gaiden was one of the first games I play on the new other then the mario trilogy and punch out, but I never had the system I always had to use an emulator
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Because he's boring. He says the same kind of stuff as other youtubers and even sounds the same. Just another boring lecturer whos to afraid to swear because it might hard his subs LOL. What a joke look at AVGN hes not scared to limit his target audience and that boldness is WHY he does well. No big suprise this guy has a relatively mediocre number of subs.
I disagree strongly with the review of StarTropics, it may have taken inspiration from the hottest titles at the time, but it was original and extremely fun, even with the odd, but satisfying controls once you master them.
All that work making physical consoles over and over again instead of investing in doing digital console emulation for other hardware so they reach EVERYONE instead of just the Nintendo fans who buy Nintendo hardware. Chances are I won't buy this. But let me download an official Nintendo emulator and sell me a bunch of games as IAP, and I'd definitely buy my favorites even though I could play them for free anyway. As far as this goes... they should have made this capable of installing ROMs and invested in selling whatever ones they have rights to. Oh well, hope everyone enjoys! I'll be content with my GBA4iOS for now.
I agree completely. I think one of Nintendo's biggest mistakes was making the Virtual Console a Wii-only marketplace. Sure, it came to Wii U and 3DS, but it would have been in much better shape if Nintendo had done the work to have the Virtual Console on PlayStation, Xbox and computers. I understand why people want Nintendo to make consoles, but when it comes to things like the Virtual Console, I wish they would dabble more as a third-party.
I mostly agree with the review of Double Dragon 2, except that River City Ransom is the best Double Dragon on the NES. The review that really chapped my hide was Startropics. That's one of the best adventure games of my youth. It's gorgeous to look at, has an immersive storyline with equal parts pathos and humor, and somehow manages to successfully integrate action into puzzles. The difficulty ramp was perfectly tuned, becoming truly difficult when you're on the ghost ship. It was a masterpiece, and did not belong on the bottom of this list. The EGM reviewers had an inflated sense of self importance.
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Honestly, there are 3 changes I'd make replace Super C with Contra, and also replace ice climbers and baloon fight with Ducktales and Pro Wrestling, who didn't have those games growing up. Also Castlevania 3 over part 2, or ninja gaiden 2 over part 1.
Startropics may be the first video game I ever became seriously addicted to. Great game. I miss it and many of the other titles included with this console. Nintendo is going to make a killing with this.
I bought one of these nes minis this Xmas (2019) and damn they are hard to find. You can get a knock off replica off amazon. But the originals are discontinued and hard to find in person. Had to go to every video game shop within 40 miles and only found one. Used.
I believe you, is not easy finding one. Mine costed me $175 back in 2016 because every time I went to the store it was sold out. Ended up buying it from someone that worked for best buys cause Nintendo announced it was discontinuing it. =\
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The back 10 I, (and I hear from lot of others out there) could have easily loved Nintendo to have spent or worked harder to get some of the franchise titles missing which would have amounted to probably 6 missing sequels (with possibly 2 being the first franchise game) and 4 games being more popular puzzle games/rpg licenses. I hope they make a mini-Snes and would look forward to what they would put on it, hopefully the mini-nes will make them a lot of money and play like a champ. That way they might go even further and get some really good licenses for a mini-snes, maybe even throw in a couple import titles.
NES CLASSIC is cool but Nintendo just has so many games...thousands...that they should have started everyone off with 30 games and then put in an online store to purchase more games with a credit card...Nintendo would have made a fortune doing it this way. I know some people have "modded" the system illegally or whatever but most people aren't going to want to take that risk and 30 games isn't enough..especially with many classics left out.
Cyril, I noticed a mistake in your video. You said if ur going to put a Mega Man game in it better be the best. Then you said to put 8n number 2?!? Mega Man 3 8s waaay better.
And this would be why I don't trust any critics at all and they are all full of crap. These are some of the best games ever made some of them are and to see them rated so low breaks my heart. It also bothers me that these people are so stupid that they gave these games such low ratings
They should have put 50 games. Lots of great games are missing. River City ransom, paper boy, rad racer, Tetris, micro machines, spy hunter, just to name a few.
Sadly, that went with Rare in the Microsoft purchase. It's such a great game and would have been perfect on the NES Classic Edition, but gamers will need to settle for Rare Replay on Xbox One.
The fact that these are the some of the best games ever made and in the top nine it hasn't even gotten to 90% just tells me you can't trust these critics and they're stupid
As a 2000s kid i am going to get this for myself i got some money with me so i will buy this when it comes out so in Christmas i would tell my parents to buy me a 2ds So when the next Christmas hits i am going to buy the nx YES !! Awesome plan if anyone needs this plan use it for free !
Wow, reviewers back then didn't know what the hell they were talking about! 4.5/10 for startropics?! Are you kidding me right now? My avatar shows I'm kinda biased, but holy shit it deserved better than that.
+Project Jellyman FYI Nintendo was working on a prototype for Mario game that scrolled upwards, and had players picking up objects and stacking them to progress. When they were asked to create a game using the characters from a Japanese TV show, they converted their upwards scrolling Mario project into Doki Doki Panic. That is the game that was later converted to Super Mario Bros 2 outside of Japan. It was originally a Mario game, then it wasn't, and then it became a Mario game again. So now explain to me why it shouldn't exist.
I played ghosts n goblins, in the version of super mario advance (SMB2 on GBA), and yeah, GNG is hard as heak, I broke my ds when I beat it... Not really
My top 10 list of the games: 1. Super Mario Bros. 3 2. Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link 3. The Legend of Zelda 4. Super Mario Bros. 5. Double Dragon II: The Revenge 6. Megaman 2 7. Metroid 8. Kirby's adventure 9. Super Mario Bros. 2 10. Castlevania What's yours?
That's a great question. Here's the list I came up with ... 1. Super Mario Bros. 3 2. Ninja Gaiden 3. Mega Man 2 4. The Legend of Zelda 5. Ghosts 'N Goblins 6. Final Fantasy 7. Super Mario Bros. 2 8. Double Dragon II: The Revenge 9. Punch-Out!! 10. Castlevania
Of course I disagree with your number 1.... not because I'm a HUGE SMB3 fan or that I don't agree with SMB2 being so high.... but mostly cause SMB3 has so much more to the game... even if I liked SMB2 better. I mean think about it.... the jump from how SMB went to add so many other game play elements and maps, whistles teleporting, large huge landscapes and more and more levels blows other games away. SMB2 is more underappreciated than most and I agree is a great game but you have to give credit where credit's due.... Super Mario Bros 3 is the best Mario game on the NES. And I think the original Zelda should be up higher as well since there's so much to that game as well and will always have great replay value for years to come. My 2 cents. Otherwise GR8 review! :)
To be fair, *I* also disagree with the number 1. If it was based on my personal opinion, Super Mario Bros. 3 would outrank Super Mario Bros. 2. But since it's based on what the critics said a couple decades ago, there's nothing I can do. But we know, deep in our hearts, SMB3 is better.
Ice Climber is great fun for 2 people : ) maybe it didnt get a review because it was one of those classic small games, like Dig Dug, Popeye, Artic Adventure, Bomberman, etc. I played all those in a "42 games in one" cartridge.
I agree, Ice Climbers is a blast with two players (and kind of dull solo). I suspect it got lost in the shuffle with all the bigger NES launch window games. I bet it will get some love in the NES Classic Edition.
5:58 why did they wait until Street Fighter 2 was even a thing to review Castlevania. Honestly the very first time I ever even heard the word graphics was at friends house when playing Castlevania, his older friend was talking about how amazing the graphics were, and compared to everything else we seen up to that point I agree, they were better than average.. Audio was about as good as it got for the NES as well. Never heard of that magazine before now and I can see why
Agreed. I suspect it's because some of these magazines weren't around in the mid-1980s, yet still wanted to review the game after the fact. That was definitely the case for a lot of games released between 1984 and 1987, when there were very few games magazines on the market.
I can see how Star Tropics got bad reviews by folks who didn't finish it. The Last 3rd took in a dystopian future, and is where the game really took the games EGM compared it to into it's own unique adventure.
Just want to point out that Atari and Sega didn't actually make their plug and play consoles, they were made by toy companies and are shoddy products to say the least. Nintendo themselves likely didn't make one (or allow one to be made as it were), however, because they aren't broke.
That's an excellent point. I'll confess, I haven't done much looking into the Atari or Sega models. I own the original systems, so I never bought the plug-n-play devices and don't have much hands-on experience. I am hoping for a quality product from Nintendo, and I have a hunch they'll deliver. That said, I'm still surprised it took them until 2016 to make one of these.
omg star tropics? i liked star tropics 2: zodas revenge, it was the first video game i ever remember playing.. i dont know if i ever played star tropics 1
Despite getting negative reviews at the time, a lot of people consider it a genuine classic. If you dug the sequel, it may be worth going through the original.
Critics were never that impressed with Moonwalker (all four EGM editors gave it 7s), but you're definitely right. That said, I stand by Klax being a pretty great Lynx game.
Wow, those reviewers had no idea what the fuck they were talking about with some of those early games. I guess the profession had to start somewhere though.
Agreed, and this isn't even the beginning. Prior to 1989, most magazines didn't even post critical reviews. What they called "reviews" were actually just previews; short blurbs intended to get you to buy the game. So while some of these early reviews aren't great, they are a huge improvement over what came before.
Exactly! I was shocked when they went with Super C instead of the original (more popular) Contra. I suppose the good news is that they didn't opt for Contra Force. Yuck.
Hey, that's a really good idea! I'm going to be hitting the Super NES launch games next Tuesday, but will definitely work in a Double Dragon episode in the next few weeks. Thanks for the suggestion.
I think the only 2 games this system is truly missing is TMNT II The Arcade Game, and Castlevania 3. I could go on a lot longer, with titles such as Faxanadu or Dragon Warrior, but neither of those games were extremely popular.
Defunct Games Agreed, I am really hoping it will come with some type of way to introduce upgrades, or new game downloads. I doubt it, but it would be a neat feature, and a possible cash cow. I am almost tempted to go buy an old console TV to play it on.
Actually Nintendo has no plans to add a feature to download any additional NES games on it. Which indeed is a shame, I would also like to have seen such games as Vegas Dreams and Paperboy be put on the system as well. They certainly missed an opportunity to release a bigger library of games on the system. Hell, they should have also included Ms. Pac Man
I think there's a difference in expectations from those two series. At its best, Bubble Bobble is a pretty good two-player arcade game. Zelda II, on the other hand, was the sequel to one of the most important 8-bit games of all time. Even today, if a Zelda game gets a 79%, it's certainly considered disappointing.
Wow! He really does look like Jeremy. Good eye. But I don't think that's the case, since the magazine is from 1993. I think the artist is attempting to draw Timothy Dalton. www.defunctgames.com/pic/magazines/cvg/cvg93.jpg
Yeah, I agree completely. I really enjoy Super Mario Bros. 2, but it's just so far removed from the others that it feels like it's own thing. SMB3 took everything I loved about the original to the next level. It's the one Super Mario Bros. game I go back and play through every year.
So I was lucky enough to nab a pre-order for the mini NES from toys r us, and I pre-ordered two controllers as well. I was surprised to receive an email a couple of weeks ago saying my controllers had shipped. When I opened the package, I found two NES controllers, from a company called Old Skhool (or something, don't have them in front of me). Wherever the box had a mention of something NES, it was covered with a gold sticker of some sort. Haven't seen anything on the internet about anyone else receiving these. Any ideas/thoughts?
Your comment actually brings up a few questions. I know the product you're talking about and have seen them before. Old Skool makes a USB controller that looks identical to the original NES pad. They also have a non-USB version that is made for NES consoles (or the redesigned models you can often by online). When you pre-ordered the NES Classic, did the website tell you these controllers would work? I ask because the pictures of the NES Classic make it look like the controller input is proprietary (and not a standard USB connector or the original NES connector). Is this what you have? www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=102800406&cp=&parentPage=search If so, I'm not sure that will work with the upcoming NES Classic console.
Yes, the link you provided does bring me to what I received, and apparently ordered. It was listed immediately alongside the classic NES, and in my haste to not miss the pre-order opportunity, I probably ordered without reading thoroughly. The only difference between what I received and what's featured in the link is the gold stickers.
Only 79% average for Zelda 2? That IS disappointing. What was up with "The Games Machine" magazine? :/ The Nintendo Magazine knew better with its 94%. :)
Zelda II is one of the most hated game. many consider it the black sheep of the Zelda franchise. I loved it as a kid tho. and the ones hating is probably the ones that never could beat it lol
KIRBY'S ADVENTURE is the best NES game EVER.
56% for StarTropics is a crime against gaming. I'd easily put it in the top 3 NES games ever.
It sucks and you know it.
You suck and your mom knows it.
jordanromaker Seriously, play the game again now and be honest with yourself.
jordanromaker In terms of it never being mentioned in any of the Super Smash Bros games (at least very hardly, like just being one sticker and a mention on the chronology list of released Nintedo game), you are indeed alone.
Are you trying to be a troll, or are you just genuinely this stupid? You're *seriously* appealing to Super Smash Bros. as some barometer to gauge how well-liked certain games are? Talk about grasping at straws; this is downright desperate. And besides, if you really wanted to go that route, then let's not forget that the game is *BEING INCLUDED IN THE NES CLASSIC EDITION* this very video is discussing; clearly this is not a decision Nintendo would make unless they felt it would help sell their product, which would only be possible if the game had a strong fan-base. To overlook that is simply denial.
Look dude, I get you don't like the game. I accept that. But for you to be this out of touch with what gamers at large actually think about the game outside your own opinion is delusional.
"Why did it take Nintendo so long?"
Because Satoru Iwata would NEVER allow this to happen. It took a change in leadership for Nintendo to realize a plug and play NES will make dollars, therefore it makes sense.
why would Iwata say no to this idea?
+TargetToad 64 Because Iwata felt plug and play devices with multiple games decreases the value of the games.
Not really, Nintendo probably didn't make one cause there was no reason to do so back at the time. Besides this may just be a one time thing to celebrate the NES annual anniversary rather than what AtGames and Sega are doing.
I agree SMB 3 is my favorite NES Mario game and I definitely love it more than Super Mario World. SMB 2 is my second favorite and to me is a better Mario sequel than The Lost Levels.
I definitely agree that Super Mario Bros. 2 is better than The Lost Levels. The Japanese SMB2 just isn't a very good game. I like how different Super Mario Bros. 2 is, but it never felt like a true Mario sequel (for obvious reasons). Super Mario Bros. 3 will always be my favorite Mario sequel.
Defunct Games At least it felt like a sequel. New graphics, music, game mechanics, playable characters, new story, and etc. Meanwhile The Lost Levels felt like an expansion. But yes SMB 3 is my favorite Mario sequel as well and I love it.
was surprised to see the mini on the site.prob will get sold out fast
hope they make an snes classic....game suggestions? 1.super street fighter2....2.sunset riders...3.super Mario world...4.mortal kombat II...5.super Mario RPG....6.star fox...7.earthworm Jim...8.F zero...9.super Mario Kart...10.super ghouls 'n ghosts....11.super street fighter alpha3...12.metal warriors...14.X-men mutant apocalypse...15.marvel super heroes war of the gems...16.castlevania lords of shadow...17.legend of Zelda link to the past...18.Donkey Kong country...18.super punch out...19.killer instinct..20.doom...21.secret of mana...22.final fantasy VI...23.super metroid...24.chrono trigger...25.mortal kombat 3....26.super r type....27.megaman X ...28.gradius....29.donkey Kong country 2 diddys quest........
.....what do you think of my list?
There are so many great Super NES games to choose from, it's hard to narrow it down to just a couple dozen. I agree with many of the games on your list, especially when it comes to F-Zero, Mario Kart, Mario World, Super Ghouls 'N Ghosts, Donkey Kong Country, Super Punch-Out, Mega Man X and Super Metroid. I also agree that the system needs to have games from Enix and Square, including ActRaiser, Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI.
If I had to add to that list, I would like to see Flashback: Quest for Identity, UN Squadron, Contra III, Zombies Ate My Neighbors, Earthbound, Rock 'N Roll Racing, Axelay, Super Castlevania IV and Pocky & Rocky.
I would like to see both the well-known Super NES games and the hidden gems that rarely get ported.
I forgot earthbound!
Super Mario Bros. 2 is amazing and my favorite Mario game even if 3 is technically a better game.
No wonder Dunkey always has SMB2 at the top of his lists.
as in movies, the rating depends on your own experience, so if you like the the games it does not mean you have to not like it because of reviews, I think
Absolutely true. People have always put too much weight on scores and reviews. That said, the old reviews are still a lot of fun to go back and read.
I agree and actually going through old magazines is amazingly nostalgic
I am thinking about buying it.
is it true that theres only going to be a limited amount released
I've heard that rumored, but see no evidence of it. While early shipments may sell out, I suspect there will be enough to go around throughout the holiday season (and beyond).
Defunct Games ok cuz im really wanting one and im not a real big fan on preordering
am i the only one who wished the new classic edition had contra instead of super c, and ninja gaiden 2 instead of Castlevania 2
Definitely not the only person. Ideally, the system would have both Contra games. They both offer something different and are fun. However, I'm 100% with you on the removal of Castlevania II: Simon's Quest. Thanks to the poor translation (and plodding gameplay), it's one of the few Castlevania games that doesn't do anything for me. Ninja Gaiden II, on the other hand, is one of the best games of all time.
+Defunct Games ninja gaiden was one of the first games I play on the new other then the mario trilogy and punch out, but I never had the system I always had to use an emulator
ninja gaiden was one of the first games I play on the new other then the mario trilogy and punch out, but I never had the system I always had to use an emulator
My favorite NES games are Mario Bros 3 and Adventure of Link.
me too!
Thats because your gay bro
Sean Sullivan wtf?
The news about the little NES made me feel so happy and nostalgic. Great video by the way. I love these revisits to old magasine reviews.
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The footage you have for Final Fantasy shows 4 characters whose names are, in BR-Portuguese: Shit, Piss, Pus and Ear wax. LOL
Coco, Xixi, Pus, Cera? LOL
Yup!
Can coco mean anything else in Portuguese? I used to train capoeira with a guy who received that as an apellido.
Cocô (what was ment to be written) means shit while Coco means Coconut
+Salvador Dali apellido=last name
Mini-NES will sell like pancakes! Can't wait to own one!
Yea me to
Same here
Cowntsikin Same bro!
The stock sucks unfortunately, I am getting one as a christmas gift, but we still havent got a hold of one
yeah, about that...
I'm floored that so many classics go such low scores
you make some of the best videos on UA-cam. hope do you only have 3k subs?? it is a crime. all this work and polish!
I agree.
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Because he's boring. He says the same kind of stuff as other youtubers and even sounds the same. Just another boring lecturer whos to afraid to swear because it might hard his subs LOL. What a joke look at AVGN hes not scared to limit his target audience and that boldness is WHY he does well. No big suprise this guy has a relatively mediocre number of subs.
You might find him boring, but I don't. And I don't know of any other UA-camrs covering classic magazines and stuff like that.
I disagree strongly with the review of StarTropics, it may have taken inspiration from the hottest titles at the time, but it was original and extremely fun, even with the odd, but satisfying controls once you master them.
Ragesauce star tropics is fun?
StarTropics #25?
Critics suck.
I honestly thought Punch Out would be #1.. One of my favorite games EVER!
All that work making physical consoles over and over again instead of investing in doing digital console emulation for other hardware so they reach EVERYONE instead of just the Nintendo fans who buy Nintendo hardware. Chances are I won't buy this. But let me download an official Nintendo emulator and sell me a bunch of games as IAP, and I'd definitely buy my favorites even though I could play them for free anyway. As far as this goes... they should have made this capable of installing ROMs and invested in selling whatever ones they have rights to. Oh well, hope everyone enjoys! I'll be content with my GBA4iOS for now.
I agree completely. I think one of Nintendo's biggest mistakes was making the Virtual Console a Wii-only marketplace. Sure, it came to Wii U and 3DS, but it would have been in much better shape if Nintendo had done the work to have the Virtual Console on PlayStation, Xbox and computers. I understand why people want Nintendo to make consoles, but when it comes to things like the Virtual Console, I wish they would dabble more as a third-party.
I mostly agree with the review of Double Dragon 2, except that River City Ransom is the best Double Dragon on the NES.
The review that really chapped my hide was Startropics. That's one of the best adventure games of my youth. It's gorgeous to look at, has an immersive storyline with equal parts pathos and humor, and somehow manages to successfully integrate action into puzzles. The difficulty ramp was perfectly tuned, becoming truly difficult when you're on the ghost ship. It was a masterpiece, and did not belong on the bottom of this list. The EGM reviewers had an inflated sense of self importance.
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Honestly, there are 3 changes I'd make replace Super C with Contra, and also replace ice climbers and baloon fight with Ducktales and Pro Wrestling, who didn't have those games growing up. Also Castlevania 3 over part 2, or ninja gaiden 2 over part 1.
Startropics may be the first video game I ever became seriously addicted to. Great game. I miss it and many of the other titles included with this console. Nintendo is going to make a killing with this.
Nintendo dropped the ball on this thing. the fact you are limited to these games and can't use any accessories makes it a bad deal
Because money and piracy most likely.
I bought one of these nes minis this Xmas (2019) and damn they are hard to find.
You can get a knock off replica off amazon. But the originals are discontinued and hard to find in person.
Had to go to every video game shop within 40 miles and only found one. Used.
I believe you, is not easy finding one. Mine costed me $175 back in 2016 because every time I went to the store it was sold out. Ended up buying it from someone that worked for best buys cause Nintendo announced it was discontinuing it. =\
I find it sad that Galaga got no love 😢
10:47 CVG: "THIS GIRL IS POISON!" Me: It's a trap!!
10:47 CVG: "THIS GIRL IS POISON!" Me: It's a trap!!
I agree about SMB 3. Mario World is still really good but I always felt it was kinda drab in comparison.
I am surprise that SMB2, black sheep of SMB games got the best acerage ratings.
LOL at all the triggered comments about your accent by folks who have such bad OCD that they can't help but whine about it. These are the types who when finding out someone is a veteran or a cop blurts out "yOu EvEr KilLed aNyboDy???" LOL, seriously though, great video. Just ran across your channel and you have great content!
The back 10 I, (and I hear from lot of others out there) could have easily loved Nintendo to have spent or worked harder to get some of the franchise titles missing which would have amounted to probably 6 missing sequels (with possibly 2 being the first franchise game) and 4 games being more popular puzzle games/rpg licenses. I hope they make a mini-Snes and would look forward to what they would put on it, hopefully the mini-nes will make them a lot of money and play like a champ. That way they might go even further and get some really good licenses for a mini-snes, maybe even throw in a couple import titles.
NES CLASSIC is cool but Nintendo just has so many games...thousands...that they should have started everyone off with 30 games and then put in an online store to purchase more games with a credit card...Nintendo would have made a fortune doing it this way. I know some people have "modded" the system illegally or whatever but most people aren't going to want to take that risk and 30 games isn't enough..especially with many classics left out.
Cyril, I noticed a mistake in your video. You said if ur going to put a Mega Man game in it better be the best. Then you said to put 8n number 2?!? Mega Man 3 8s waaay better.
And this would be why I don't trust any critics at all and they are all full of crap. These are some of the best games ever made some of them are and to see them rated so low breaks my heart. It also bothers me that these people are so stupid that they gave these games such low ratings
They should have put 50 games. Lots of great games are missing. River City ransom, paper boy, rad racer, Tetris, micro machines, spy hunter, just to name a few.
I love my nes and snes mini. I got the sega mini but sega sucks lol I got the majority of the snes games but I’m not buying earth bound
Whoever said the music in Castlevania NES was “not stunning” should’ve been fired what the heck lol
What ever happened to snake rattle and roll for NES that was a fun game
Sadly, that went with Rare in the Microsoft purchase. It's such a great game and would have been perfect on the NES Classic Edition, but gamers will need to settle for Rare Replay on Xbox One.
The fact that these are the some of the best games ever made and in the top nine it hasn't even gotten to 90% just tells me you can't trust these critics and they're stupid
Well one thing about it, if the "worst" game is Donkey Kong, then you know it's a good little system.
I'd only like the NES Mini if Duck Hunt is included.
punch out beats Zelda and castlevania? Zelda II beats castlevania? what clown wrote those reviews?
The roots of video gaming, well Atari should be too or Pong. Still have the consoles. Awesome!
technobowl is number 1
Many of those games on the list I felt should have been much higher. Star Tropics is one of them.
That's it. I un subscribed from all these magazines for giving bad scores.
lol...fuck that old reviews Startropics deserve so muuuuuuuuch more !
It didn't. The game sucks.
Hairo Aguilera you suck cause you can't pass through chapter 1 lol
DevilizerKao Through the legitimately bad controls (the only thing wrong with it), unfortunately I did, wishing it was a better game.
Hairo Aguilera it takes time learn the delay
DevilizerKao all old games had it eventually that player got used to the bad controls
As a 2000s kid i am going to get this for myself i got some money with me so i will buy this when it comes out so in Christmas i would tell my parents to buy me a 2ds
So when the next Christmas hits i am going to buy the nx
YES !! Awesome plan if anyone needs this plan use it for free !
HeyItsRye you cant pre order it 😒
Last I heard the first run is sold out.
Ask your parents, if they have their old console. Why would 80s kids throw away their most prized console and not share it with their future kids?
-d d- they gave me one but my 3 years old
sister crushed it and she broke her leg :(
Gonna get one too, for my game playing channel, and just to play for fun
Mean Machines was the best games magazine, seeing those covers brought back some memories.
the moral of the story is critics don't know what the hell they're talking about.
Wow, reviewers back then didn't know what the hell they were talking about! 4.5/10 for startropics?! Are you kidding me right now? My avatar shows I'm kinda biased, but holy shit it deserved better than that.
My favorite is Mega Man 2
Only a 76% for the first castlevania? I was expecting top 5.
That was a great video with good content, good job!
Thanks for the kind words, DugalPlay. It means a lot.
hmmi think nintendo need to ad SD or USB port for costume roms... :/
Punch out was junk and Super Mario 2 beat 3?!?! I call shenanigans!!!
punch out is my favorite NES games!! Triggered.
punch out junk? lol. your 1 of the few that hate it.
OMG IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO ABSOLUTELY LOVESSSSSSSSSS SUPER MARIO BROS 2
Super mario bros 2 should not exist, its horrible because its an ESCACT REPLICA of another game! Its dumb. I have my opinions...
+Project Jellyman FYI Nintendo was working on a prototype for Mario game that scrolled upwards, and had players picking up objects and stacking them to progress. When they were asked to create a game using the characters from a Japanese TV show, they converted their upwards scrolling Mario project into Doki Doki Panic. That is the game that was later converted to Super Mario Bros 2 outside of Japan. It was originally a Mario game, then it wasn't, and then it became a Mario game again. So now explain to me why it shouldn't exist.
That game was a real challenge to beat.
It was the easiest Super Mario game of the 4. Yes, of the four NES Super Mario games.
I played ghosts n goblins, in the version of super mario advance (SMB2 on GBA), and yeah, GNG is hard as heak, I broke my ds when I beat it...
Not really
Smb2 was a great game & still a great game but it is no way above smb3.
My top 10 list of the games:
1. Super Mario Bros. 3
2. Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link
3. The Legend of Zelda
4. Super Mario Bros.
5. Double Dragon II: The Revenge
6. Megaman 2
7. Metroid
8. Kirby's adventure
9. Super Mario Bros. 2
10. Castlevania
What's yours?
That's a great question. Here's the list I came up with ...
1. Super Mario Bros. 3
2. Ninja Gaiden
3. Mega Man 2
4. The Legend of Zelda
5. Ghosts 'N Goblins
6. Final Fantasy
7. Super Mario Bros. 2
8. Double Dragon II: The Revenge
9. Punch-Out!!
10. Castlevania
Of course I disagree with your number 1.... not because I'm a HUGE SMB3 fan or that I don't agree with SMB2 being so high.... but mostly cause SMB3 has so much more to the game... even if I liked SMB2 better. I mean think about it.... the jump from how SMB went to add so many other game play elements and maps, whistles teleporting, large huge landscapes and more and more levels blows other games away. SMB2 is more underappreciated than most and I agree is a great game but you have to give credit where credit's due.... Super Mario Bros 3 is the best Mario game on the NES. And I think the original Zelda should be up higher as well since there's so much to that game as well and will always have great replay value for years to come. My 2 cents. Otherwise GR8 review! :)
To be fair, *I* also disagree with the number 1. If it was based on my personal opinion, Super Mario Bros. 3 would outrank Super Mario Bros. 2. But since it's based on what the critics said a couple decades ago, there's nothing I can do. But we know, deep in our hearts, SMB3 is better.
The sega and Atari ones are unlicensed sega just licensed them.
Ice Climber is great fun for 2 people : ) maybe it didnt get a review because it was one of those classic small games, like Dig Dug, Popeye, Artic Adventure, Bomberman, etc. I played all those in a "42 games in one" cartridge.
I agree, Ice Climbers is a blast with two players (and kind of dull solo). I suspect it got lost in the shuffle with all the bigger NES launch window games. I bet it will get some love in the NES Classic Edition.
5:58 why did they wait until Street Fighter 2 was even a thing to review Castlevania. Honestly the very first time I ever even heard the word graphics was at friends house when playing Castlevania, his older friend was talking about how amazing the graphics were, and compared to everything else we seen up to that point I agree, they were better than average.. Audio was about as good as it got for the NES as well.
Never heard of that magazine before now and I can see why
Agreed. I suspect it's because some of these magazines weren't around in the mid-1980s, yet still wanted to review the game after the fact. That was definitely the case for a lot of games released between 1984 and 1987, when there were very few games magazines on the market.
I can see how Star Tropics got bad reviews by folks who didn't finish it. The Last 3rd took in a dystopian future, and is where the game really took the games EGM compared it to into it's own unique adventure.
That's an interesting point. I wish there was a way to see if each critic played through the whole game or gave up mid-way through.
Review scores seem much better back then, far more fair.
Just want to point out that Atari and Sega didn't actually make their plug and play consoles, they were made by toy companies and are shoddy products to say the least. Nintendo themselves likely didn't make one (or allow one to be made as it were), however, because they aren't broke.
That's an excellent point. I'll confess, I haven't done much looking into the Atari or Sega models. I own the original systems, so I never bought the plug-n-play devices and don't have much hands-on experience. I am hoping for a quality product from Nintendo, and I have a hunch they'll deliver. That said, I'm still surprised it took them until 2016 to make one of these.
Castlevainia 2 is still the hardest and my favorite.
Great review! As an aside, how awkward was "Nintendo Magazine System". Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue!!!
omg star tropics? i liked star tropics 2: zodas revenge, it was the first video game i ever remember playing.. i dont know if i ever played star tropics 1
Despite getting negative reviews at the time, a lot of people consider it a genuine classic. If you dug the sequel, it may be worth going through the original.
This is the limited information we had to work with in the 80s and early 90s
That's why I ended up with "classics" like moonwalker and klax
Critics were never that impressed with Moonwalker (all four EGM editors gave it 7s), but you're definitely right. That said, I stand by Klax being a pretty great Lynx game.
man, reviews were even bullshit back then
So true.
I disagree. i think you looked at these games differently back then. it was mostly kids playing.
Some of these reviews...yikes!
Wow, those reviewers had no idea what the fuck they were talking about with some of those early games.
I guess the profession had to start somewhere though.
Agreed, and this isn't even the beginning. Prior to 1989, most magazines didn't even post critical reviews. What they called "reviews" were actually just previews; short blurbs intended to get you to buy the game. So while some of these early reviews aren't great, they are a huge improvement over what came before.
Why isn't contra on it
Exactly! I was shocked when they went with Super C instead of the original (more popular) Contra. I suppose the good news is that they didn't opt for Contra Force. Yuck.
hey, can you review which of the double dragon is the best? I'm intrigued to see if it is double dragon 2 or 3.. thanks
Hey, that's a really good idea! I'm going to be hitting the Super NES launch games next Tuesday, but will definitely work in a Double Dragon episode in the next few weeks. Thanks for the suggestion.
I think the only 2 games this system is truly missing is TMNT II The Arcade Game, and Castlevania 3. I could go on a lot longer, with titles such as Faxanadu or Dragon Warrior, but neither of those games were extremely popular.
Would love to see some of those smaller games (like Faxanadu) on the system.
Defunct Games Agreed, I am really hoping it will come with some type of way to introduce upgrades, or new game downloads. I doubt it, but it would be a neat feature, and a possible cash cow. I am almost tempted to go buy an old console TV to play it on.
Actually Nintendo has no plans to add a feature to download any additional NES games on it. Which indeed is a shame, I would also like to have seen such games as Vegas Dreams and Paperboy be put on the system as well. They certainly missed an opportunity to release a bigger library of games on the system. Hell, they should have also included Ms. Pac Man
Sector Z, Tiger Heli and 1942/1943 would be lovely too. I am not surprised at all about no download option, but a little disappointed.
I agree, they definitely need an option to add more games. 30 games is barely the tip of the iceberg of the massive NES library of games
Just cop a fucking raspberry pie. Get every NES, Genesis and SNES game on it and call it a day😉
I want them to make SNES CE and N64 CE for my gaming channel, and GBA CE because I grew up with that
Just fixed my original NES and found my favorite of the ild times: snake rattle 'n' roll :)
Oh, that's a good one! That was recently part of another solid classic game compilation -- Rare Replay.
I assumed that Super Mario Bros. would be number one cuz... ITS SUPER MARIO BROS.!
You were so close!
Its a dam shame the tertals in time is not included
I love how you call Zelda 2's 79% dissapointing,and call Bubble Bobble's 82% respectable
I think there's a difference in expectations from those two series. At its best, Bubble Bobble is a pretty good two-player arcade game. Zelda II, on the other hand, was the sequel to one of the most important 8-bit games of all time. Even today, if a Zelda game gets a 79%, it's certainly considered disappointing.
one game SUPER MARIO 3 mabey....
Why did they not have Ms. Pacman :(
Megaman 2 is my least favorite Classic Megaman, 3 is MUCH BETTER IMO.
Yeah, I agree.
I really don't know how Super Mario Bros 2 beat 3... that was not expected.
I don't know how it beat SMB 1. SMB2 was... man... I really do not like that game.
That CVG cover near the end--is that supposed to be Jeremy Clarkson as Bond?
Wow! He really does look like Jeremy. Good eye. But I don't think that's the case, since the magazine is from 1993. I think the artist is attempting to draw Timothy Dalton. www.defunctgames.com/pic/magazines/cvg/cvg93.jpg
that person didnt know how to play kirby
I disagree with super mario 2 being #1. That game was a ripoff of doki doki panic
To me it wasnt, I prefer SMB 3
I would probably use the controller for the virtual console and........
nes emulators......shhhh
but its a cool little nes doncha think?
Star Tropics ... I spent lots of time on that game.
Never heard of these magazines...
5:09 was that intentional by the mag?
Smb 2 is a fun game but 1 and 3 have a higher replay value by far imo.
Yeah, I agree completely. I really enjoy Super Mario Bros. 2, but it's just so far removed from the others that it feels like it's own thing. SMB3 took everything I loved about the original to the next level. It's the one Super Mario Bros. game I go back and play through every year.
So I was lucky enough to nab a pre-order for the mini NES from toys r us, and I pre-ordered two controllers as well. I was surprised to receive an email a couple of weeks ago saying my controllers had shipped. When I opened the package, I found two NES controllers, from a company called Old Skhool (or something, don't have them in front of me). Wherever the box had a mention of something NES, it was covered with a gold sticker of some sort. Haven't seen anything on the internet about anyone else receiving these. Any ideas/thoughts?
Your comment actually brings up a few questions. I know the product you're talking about and have seen them before. Old Skool makes a USB controller that looks identical to the original NES pad. They also have a non-USB version that is made for NES consoles (or the redesigned models you can often by online). When you pre-ordered the NES Classic, did the website tell you these controllers would work? I ask because the pictures of the NES Classic make it look like the controller input is proprietary (and not a standard USB connector or the original NES connector). Is this what you have?
www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=102800406&cp=&parentPage=search
If so, I'm not sure that will work with the upcoming NES Classic console.
Yes, the link you provided does bring me to what I received, and apparently ordered. It was listed immediately alongside the classic NES, and in my haste to not miss the pre-order opportunity, I probably ordered without reading thoroughly. The only difference between what I received and what's featured in the link is the gold stickers.
great video! nice to have found your channel. Subscribed!!!
Wow, thanks for the kind words!
Only 79% average for Zelda 2? That IS disappointing. What was up with "The Games Machine" magazine? :/ The Nintendo Magazine knew better with its 94%. :)
Zelda II is one of the most hated game. many consider it the black sheep of the Zelda franchise. I loved it as a kid tho. and the ones hating is probably the ones that never could beat it lol
super hard game but beat it :)