The Rise of David 1st: Scotland's Extraordinary King

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  • @lesscott4301
    @lesscott4301 2 місяці тому +11

    As a Northumbrian and a Scotiaphile, I found this riveting. I might just go through it again take notes.🙏

  • @wilsontheconqueror8101
    @wilsontheconqueror8101 2 місяці тому +5

    Love the information about the early history of the Robert De Bruce family! Those early seeds would bear fruit. Well done!

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      Aye Smoggy Normans, that's what the Bruce's are!

  • @annealive5911
    @annealive5911 2 місяці тому +8

    I could listen to you all day! Thank you.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      Wow, thank you! That's a big compliment!

  • @almagill
    @almagill 19 днів тому

    Superb video Alex!!
    The period from Malcolm and Margaret through to the emergence of the Bruce dynasty has always been my favourites, even though it's best described with the old social media 'relationship tag' of "it's complicated"
    Encore !

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  19 днів тому

      I'll keep trying and you are welcome!

  • @danielferguson3784
    @danielferguson3784 2 місяці тому +14

    It was by the victory of the Battle of the Standard that William Le Gross earned his Earldom of Yorkshire, going on to build Scarborough Castle, from which he ruled 'like a King', over Yorkshire & it's region. If that battle had gone the other way, then Yorkshire might have been added to the northern Kingdom, which would have changed the dynamics of the power system of the whole island of Britain. Indeed one could imagine a renewed Northumbria, able to hold it's own with the rulers of the rest of England, but more importantly, able to buffer both kingdoms against attacks from each other. It's a pity that the familial links across the three regions were never quite enough to overcome the mutual hostility, for the later wars between the 2 Kingdoms need not have happened, & instead an earlier, & eventually happier, union of both Crowns, & Nations could have occurred. One of the first things Henry Plantagenet did, in securing his own position as King of England, was to put Le Gross out of his position, & to take over Scarborough, turning it into a major Royal Castle, & associated Borough. Henry replaced Le Gross's timber fortress with the extant great Keep, & curtain walls, which were much strengthened with towers etc, by his son John & the following Kings. The Bruce family held Manors at Guisborough & Pickering, & the Percies at Seamer near Scarborough.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +2

      It's amazing how small things have such a huge impact isn't it!

    • @theGhostofRoberttheBruce
      @theGhostofRoberttheBruce 2 місяці тому

      Henry (Percy) de Percy (abt. 1160 - 1198)
      Born about 1160 in Alnwick, Northumberland.
      Husband of Isabel (Bruce) Mauduit - married about 1190 in Yorkshire, England.
      One of my ancestors was captured at Shrewsbury and was later executed.

  • @user-wk1mw9nj3i76
    @user-wk1mw9nj3i76 2 місяці тому +1

    It’s a pleasure to encounter the depth of detail you present. I’m going to have to listen to this more than once, in order to straighten out some of the relationships and kings’ names. It’s amazing how endless the wars were. How did ordinary people survive having armies marching through and scrounging the peasants’ food and supplies? Watching from Minnesota, USA.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      I'm going to do episodes on what happened, but it wasn't easy!

  • @lkgreenwell
    @lkgreenwell 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for this. I live in the North East, Sunderland, and this is almost all news to me!

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      Glad to have done it then! It's a fantastic bit of history

  • @robertthebruce-geniusofban647
    @robertthebruce-geniusofban647 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for this Alex, extremely well put together brother!

  • @davidashley7717
    @davidashley7717 2 місяці тому +2

    Nice to see Kelso Abbey, such a special place!

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      I really like it as a place too!

  • @eddiemccabe4585
    @eddiemccabe4585 2 місяці тому +6

    Have to remind myself sometimes how lucky i am living in the North East as we kind of have it all historywise right on our doorstep.
    I fish beside a roman bridge and also downsteam where the Viking hogbacks were discovered,got married in a Saxon church then had our honeymoon at Warkworth,Stephenson Railway is where i walk my dogs its everywhere!

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      It's truly amazing isn't it!

    • @davidkemp4212
      @davidkemp4212 2 місяці тому +1

      It's Stephenson not Stevenson.

    • @eddiemccabe4585
      @eddiemccabe4585 2 місяці тому +1

      @@davidkemp4212 Thank you for that,edit done.✌️

  • @stephaniewoznicki2641
    @stephaniewoznicki2641 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm related to both David and Henry I such a interesting family tree I love learning more about my Scottish ancestry and have traveled to Scotland for two summers just to visit areas where my relatives came from.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      Hope you enjoyed your trip

    • @thatnelson12
      @thatnelson12 11 годин тому

      David is my 24th great grandfather. I find this so cool!

  • @bordersearcher2548
    @bordersearcher2548 2 місяці тому +4

    Excellent and very intresting, the Anarchy is definitely one of my favourite periods of history, so much going....thanks very much for creating the content😀👍

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      You are welcome and since doing this research it's becoming a big favourite of mine too!

  • @ForestArchaicCollective
    @ForestArchaicCollective 2 місяці тому +4

    incredible breakdown! big ups 🙌🙌

  • @TheEggmaniac
    @TheEggmaniac 2 місяці тому +2

    Another great video about a complicated but fascinating time in Scottish/ English history.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      Much appreciated!

    • @jackdubz4247
      @jackdubz4247 22 дні тому

      It's not all that complicated. The Scots are one people and the English are another. There's a border between the two countries for a reason.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  22 дні тому +1

      @@jackdubz4247 That is incorrect. There are at least five people groups in Scotland and the same in England, there are just political national borders that exist.

  • @igorscot4971
    @igorscot4971 2 місяці тому +3

    Great video, and very informative. It is strange, that although Matilda won the civil war, and Stephen was captured, she did not gain the throne. Since her son Henry did become King, hers was the final victory?

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      I believe after Stephens son died he adopted Henry Plantagenet so that he had legitimacy from both sides.

  • @mktf5582
    @mktf5582 2 місяці тому +1

    Please expand to do all parts of Britain/History and indeed foreign history, from a new subscriber.

  • @Lukethetower
    @Lukethetower 2 місяці тому +1

    My favourite king of Scots and Scotland.

  • @AnthonyEvelyn
    @AnthonyEvelyn 2 місяці тому +1

    I would like you to do a video of Henry Beauclerc from a Northern perspective and then, if you have the time, The Anarchy which I have read about but not seriously looked into. Another excellent video, especially that of a great Scots monarch who happens not to be Robert Bruce.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      I'll put it on the list! Going to do more research and writing shortly for filming now the tourism season is coming to a close.

  • @paulmuir2184
    @paulmuir2184 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video mate 👏

  • @JohnScutter-s5j
    @JohnScutter-s5j 2 місяці тому +1

    Very interesting.

  • @iankingsleys2818
    @iankingsleys2818 2 місяці тому +5

    As the son of Margaret of Wessex (herself the grand-daughter of King Edmund Ironside), after her death David was actually the rightful King of England had the House of Normandy failed

  • @Andy_Babb
    @Andy_Babb 2 місяці тому +2

    I’ll comment again once I’ve had a chance to watch.
    Just had to help the algorithm a wee bit 😬

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you!

    • @Andy_Babb
      @Andy_Babb 2 місяці тому +1

      @@AlexIlesUK always my friend 😎

  • @cphone8093
    @cphone8093 2 місяці тому +3

    Okay, but David brought an end to the native (Celto-Brythonic-Anglic) Scottish kingdom by importing Anglo-Norman fuedalism proper. He had no loyalty to the old ways. True, it brought the Scottish kingdom into the feudal mainstream, created vast wealth and military structure. It allowed him, the church and his dynasty to play feudal power games. But he stands beside William 1 in being guilty of subjecting these islands to 800 years of oligarchic rule under the most brutal and successfully intractable system of enforced privilage in human history. So much so even today we think it is normal. Norman feudalism was not natural or intrinsically good, it was just really brilliant at keeping the feudal class at the top, and most people at the squalid bottom. Nothing to celebrate. I imagine while being brought-up in the Anglo-Norman court he cottoned-on that Norman feadalism was a hell of a good way of taming his own kingdom to his own advantage. You can call it progress, but dragging in foreign lords (Bruces, Balliols et al) to lord it over your own people could just as easily be called treason. Discuss.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      To believe that anything before his reforms was egalitarian is folly.

    • @davidkemp4212
      @davidkemp4212 2 місяці тому

      Other than cathedrals the Normans were a total disaster. Ethnic cleansing!

  • @carolehouston3959
    @carolehouston3959 2 місяці тому +2

    I enjoyed the history lesson but found that I was getting a bit fuddled when at the beginning you were speaking about David 1st then in amongst that, you started to bring in Henry 1st and I was unsure whether you were speaking about David or Henry! Although, I eventually worked out what information belonged to what king. I have listened and read about my history (Scotland) over many years and if I could get confused, what then are those who are new to this particular subject likely to feel!

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      It's not easy sometimes and you have to try to make it as simple as possible. I'm sorry you got confused and I do keep that in mind whenever I'm making episodes.

  • @delskioffskinov
    @delskioffskinov 2 місяці тому +3

    It's always to long between videos Alex! I know you've got a life but just but! lol! another crackin video bud Thank You!

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      It's only a week!! Haha, I'm doing my best to work towards being more regular and twice a week. Lots more planned and thank you!

    • @delskioffskinov
      @delskioffskinov 2 місяці тому +1

      @@AlexIlesUK I just noticed last week's upload after I watched this one lol sorry Alex I'm a dick only sometimes lol!

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      @delskioffskinov not at all! I wish I could make more faster! I just need to work, sleep and spend time with my family too 😄! Really glad you enjoy them!

  • @davemcdave2169
    @davemcdave2169 2 місяці тому +1

    I am indeed named after my great king.

  • @jchisholm1968
    @jchisholm1968 2 місяці тому +2

    There are a number of Scottish Clans that claim descent from the Normans that settled in the border region. It is suggested that David I may have been responsible for that.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      Entirely!

    • @tobyplumlee7602
      @tobyplumlee7602 2 місяці тому

      ​@@AlexIlesUK Would he be responsible for my mother's Anglo-Norman Montgomery family settling in Ayrshire Scotland from Wales?

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      @@tobyplumlee7602 That is likely but I would need to know more about the circumstances to comment properly.

  • @nedkellysghost1086
    @nedkellysghost1086 2 місяці тому +1

    King Henri, the 1st's son, William, is referred to as 'William clito'

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      Isnt that the son of Robert Curthose, not Henry?

    • @nedkellysghost1086
      @nedkellysghost1086 2 місяці тому +1

      @AlexIlesUK my mistake, and my apologies, Alex.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      @@nedkellysghost1086 you do not need to! I get things confused all the time and honestly, it is good to check things because there is so much to remember all the time!

    • @nedkellysghost1086
      @nedkellysghost1086 2 місяці тому +1

      @AlexIlesUK Thank you. I am really enjoying your productions, as most of these great historical figures are my direct ancestors. Like the Canmore and Dunkeld kings, Alt clut, etc. Thank you for bringing them to life. I was blown away to find that Boudica is my 53rd great-grandmother.
      Keep up the great work. From the great Southern land. Many thanks, mate.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      How did you work that out? She's got no living descendants. She killed her daughters and committed suicide.

  • @georgegreen9003
    @georgegreen9003 2 місяці тому +14

    There never has been Kings or Queens of Scotland. They are Kings or Queens of Scots, only. They can rule the people, but our land belongs to the Scottish people...!

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +3

      Well as the Scots originated in Ulster, and they invaded from the 4th century, where is the land of the Scottish people?

    • @scarba
      @scarba 2 місяці тому +6

      @@AlexIlesUKI think you’re being rather pedantic here, you know what was meant.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      @@scarba I feel the same can be said of your comment.

    • @scarba
      @scarba 2 місяці тому +3

      @@AlexIlesUK no you mean didactic. It was a teachable moment. Be nice to your audience. You were unnecessarily condescending.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      @@scarba I was being serious, not condescending. I am not being unpleasant to you. If you are upset I have not intended that and honestly, I am nice to my audience, I respond, learn and improve as much as I can.

  • @MistressQueenBee
    @MistressQueenBee 2 місяці тому

    Alex were these the same Percys that Hot Spur was later born of?

  • @andrewsmith-cm9qw
    @andrewsmith-cm9qw 2 місяці тому +4

    I bet the people in that extension wish they were part of Scotland now.

  • @Dragon-Lady
    @Dragon-Lady 2 місяці тому

    Robert Curthose was neither kidnapped nor starved to death. He was captured in battle by Henry I and spent the rest of his life- 28 years- in comfortable captivity.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      I've mentioned this in another comment, I sometimes get things wrong. I got him confused with someone else.

    • @Dragon-Lady
      @Dragon-Lady 2 місяці тому

      @@AlexIlesUK Fair enough. :) My guess is you were thinking of Richard II.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      @Dragon-Lady yes, I do a lot of reading and while Robert wax important, for the native of the episode he doesn't have as much impact as Henry or David so I needed to mention him, but got him mixed up with Richard and didn't realise in editing!

  • @Dishfire101
    @Dishfire101 2 місяці тому +2

    Alex, can you do a video on the Scotii (Scots) when they arrived from Central Europe and landed in today's Ireland in the 1st century, the Greeks and Romans called today Ireland as Scotia ie the Land of the Scots, it's my understanding that there were many tribes in todays Ireland but it was not called Ireland until far later, the Scots are not Irish as they arrived long before it was named Ireland? Later the name changed from Scotia, to Hibernia, and later on Ireland.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      I'll have to read up on that as it feels like that's slightly mythological but I'll see what I can find

    • @loxism72
      @loxism72 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@AlexIlesUKI have corcu loidge DNA markers, with two corcu loidge family lines in my family history. Do one on the corcu loidge and the kings of munster. The true indigenous people's of these islands.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +3

      @loxism72 again, I don't know much about that topic, but 'please' or a 'can you' goes a long way

  • @caledoniantours220
    @caledoniantours220 2 місяці тому

    If you could talk at half speed, or even less, it would be so much easier to absord the information. Also, try varying the pace of delivery, please!

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      Thank you for your feedback, good to hear what different people are saying, hope your tours are going well.

  • @madbrad5596
    @madbrad5596 2 місяці тому +1

    Am from chester le street and am trying to find if have any norman ancesrty and watching this makes me think there is a good chance.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      Well, as the Romans do not base romanness on ethnicity, but instead on citizenship, you could be descended from someone who was a Roman citizen.

  • @StevieMoore-q3c
    @StevieMoore-q3c 2 місяці тому +1

    your wee map is wrong Kelso is on the north banks of tweed and Roxburgh is just about three miles south west of kelso on the south side of the river tweed ...

  • @mikemuir8809
    @mikemuir8809 2 місяці тому +2

    Ah the last viking battle in Scotland. Would the be Cruden Bay?

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      I don't think it's that one, as I wouldn't call Cnute a viking, it's hard to decide when the last one is.

    • @robertjblackley2632
      @robertjblackley2632 2 місяці тому +2

      Thought last viking/ scots battle was largs?​@@AlexIlesUK

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      @robertjblackley2632 so by that point Norway was Christian and it's not a Viking battle but a territorial battle over land.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      @robertjblackley2632 so by that point Norway was Christian and it's not a Viking battle but a territorial battle over land.

    • @robertjblackley2632
      @robertjblackley2632 2 місяці тому +1

      @@AlexIlesUK cheers, ps really enjoyed story of david1👍

  • @Georgieastra
    @Georgieastra 2 місяці тому

    Robert Curthose was kidnapped and starved to death in captivity?
    Robert Curthose was captured after the Battle of Tinchebray and spent 28 years as his brother's prisoner in fairly comfortable circumstances. He would die at the age of 83 which was a tremendous lifespan for someone in the Middle Ages.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      I'm sorry, occasionally I make mistakes as I am remembering a lot of information and get people mixed up, but he was removed from any possible influence and involvement of politics.

  • @carausiuscaesar5672
    @carausiuscaesar5672 2 місяці тому +1

    Hoot mon!Did he invent Edinburgh Rock too?🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      I'll have a look into it 😜

  • @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
    @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf 2 місяці тому +2

    I hate the hierarchy now days would of been way worse back then in the past. Always knobs being over others and causing troubles. But thanks mate

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      That's one way of looking at it :) glad you enjoyed it!

  • @KellyLouiseBrown
    @KellyLouiseBrown 2 місяці тому

    Robert the Bruce was my ancestor

  • @martincain7909
    @martincain7909 2 місяці тому

    Regarding the Isles in red. You disrespect the power of the Gaels. The red should go down to inverkeithing.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      We don't know the territorial extent of many people these areas so it's always a bit of guessing work.

    • @martincain7909
      @martincain7909 2 місяці тому

      @@AlexIlesUK Take a trip to Dunblane or guess who was on top of Stirling before the Norman and Walloons arrived.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      @@martincain7909 Hillforts?

    • @martincain7909
      @martincain7909 2 місяці тому +1

      @@AlexIlesUK Lot more horse trading loci and since the 6th century Catholic schools.

  • @jackdubz4247
    @jackdubz4247 22 дні тому

    One can only take so much British Nationalist "Scotland and England were always destined to be together" propaganda before the nausea kicks in.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  22 дні тому

      Get those tablets down you lad. Plenty more researched and nuanced history inbound. Just a wee disclaimer for you though: check first that the anti-nausea tablets have wee tartan kilts on them else they might get stuck in your throat on the way down.

  • @StevieMoore-q3c
    @StevieMoore-q3c 2 місяці тому +3

    Talk to fast . had to watch your video 3 times ..:}First Norman scots king to bring in coinage into scotland

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the watches and the feedback!

    • @janetgraham-russell4476
      @janetgraham-russell4476 2 місяці тому +1

      He lives on Tyneside. This is actually the pace we speak at, even though he's a transplant.

  • @truetoffee8684
    @truetoffee8684 2 місяці тому +1

    I live in Darlington that sits beside the river Tees and don't know how to feel thinking that once in the past I could of been a Jock!

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      Another level of complexitiy to the difficult question of what is Darlington's identity?

    • @jackdubz4247
      @jackdubz4247 22 дні тому

      A "J---"? Why the need to throw in such a racist/xenophobic epithet?

  • @sandraswift3489
    @sandraswift3489 20 днів тому

    House of judah

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  20 днів тому

      Where do you lot come from?

  • @JohnScutter-s5j
    @JohnScutter-s5j 2 місяці тому

    It is not sad that Scotland's authority over England as far as the River Tees did not last after King David's l death!!!!!!! Not at all sad.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      Agree to disagree.

    • @lovenothate111
      @lovenothate111 2 місяці тому

      Learn about the harrowing of the north and what the new Norman regime did to the people in the north....

    • @lovenothate111
      @lovenothate111 2 місяці тому

      David I father Malcolm III was also Prince of the Cumbrians so this title had nothing to do with the Norman king John.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      I don't belive I mentioned King John in the episode.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому

      That was in the previous episode of this series.

  • @AustinB.3322
    @AustinB.3322 27 днів тому

    Ana'chy.

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  27 днів тому

      Anarchy

    • @AustinB.3322
      @AustinB.3322 27 днів тому

      @@AlexIlesUK I thought it was pronounced more like "Anuchy"

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  27 днів тому

      Not all British people speak like they are a SAS soldier in Call of Duty!

  • @LeePenn2492
    @LeePenn2492 2 місяці тому +2

    The bruce family owene the land around around Where i live Billingham seal sands Greetham creek Seaton Crewe..south of Hartlepool

    • @AlexIlesUK
      @AlexIlesUK  2 місяці тому +1

      That's right, a bunch of Norman Smogies ;)

  • @LeePenn2492
    @LeePenn2492 2 місяці тому +2

    I does remember the crew of the ship was drunk and accident happend at night