A National Divorce: The American Right's Secession Fantasy

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  • @zoushaomenohu
    @zoushaomenohu Рік тому +395

    Beau of the Fifth Column has said it multiple times: "Republican politicians don't want to *represent* their constituents. They want to *rule* them."

    • @seekingabsolution1907
      @seekingabsolution1907 Рік тому +4

      He's right of course but he also did say he got convicted for evacuating refugees when the court records say he was a front man for a human trafficking scam where eastern European women were lured in under false pretenses, made to work for the highest bidder and had the costs of their residence deducted from their already small pay and kept from complaining by being made unknowingly complicit in visa fraud. The fact he hasn't admitted this means he may be not the most honest of political actors. Not saying he doesn't have valuable insight on a great many things but he may also be, you know, running from accountability for a wrong he has yet to make up for.

    • @richhutnik2477
      @richhutnik2477 Рік тому

      The constituents vote for them under the assumption they represent a shot at being in a ruling class if they do. Hey, who cares if you live in a dystopia so long as you can shoot your way to ruling others.

    • @burningsnow9870
      @burningsnow9870 Рік тому +3

      Could you post the link to the vid?

    • @shadownor
      @shadownor Рік тому +5

      Beau is a gentleman

    • @justmechilling...
      @justmechilling... Рік тому +24

      @@seekingabsolution1907 this is old news i have seen some of his videos been quite honest in what he did but I guess he needs to literally to apologise/confess to every commentator like yourself who brings this up. He literally acts as he says "don't punch down" and I am cool with that. Some laws are meant to be broken. Especially when they "other" people. Are you perfect never broke the law? Aren't you a good citizen then...

  • @EmeralBookwise
    @EmeralBookwise Рік тому +622

    So basically, by calling it a national "divorce" instead of secession, she expects the red states should still receive some kind of federal alimony.

    • @lebeaumuni6247
      @lebeaumuni6247 Рік тому +68

      Literally this.

    • @clairenollet2389
      @clairenollet2389 Рік тому +58

      And if we're supposed to be shrinking the federal government, where will this alimony come from?

    • @ethelryan257
      @ethelryan257 Рік тому +18

      Yup. Exactly.

    • @twitchew
      @twitchew Рік тому +25

      also a nice way to sidestep sedition charges .

    • @kirksneckchop7873
      @kirksneckchop7873 Рік тому +40

      I don't think she actually is capable of thinking very deeply about anything. If I were to guess, her language is motivated to maintain a political conflict that drives donations and fuels conservatives fear.

  • @paulfoss5385
    @paulfoss5385 Рік тому +47

    People in prison should be allowed to vote. If there are enough prisoners to change the results of an election, then you have too many prisoners.

    • @hmnhntr
      @hmnhntr 6 місяців тому +11

      Also bc as long as felons and prisoners cannot vote, there is political incentive to incriminate your opposition

    • @tmartin6300
      @tmartin6300 4 місяці тому +1

      Actually, the law against felons from voting was first established in the Jim Crow South by people who were just trying to prevent black people from voting.

  • @matthewdavis2853
    @matthewdavis2853 Рік тому +235

    Let's also not forget that MTG moved from her home in a swing district in the Atlanta suburbs to a deeply crimson district in mostly rural NW GA where the incumbent was retiring. Using her logic on a more localized level, she should not have been allowed to run or vote in that district.

    • @wesleywyndam-pryce5305
      @wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Рік тому +11

      I didn't know "magic the gathering" did that

    • @cwalenta656
      @cwalenta656 Рік тому +2

      But the logic isn't meant to be employed within a nation state. When she was discussing the plan with Charlie Kirk, Kirk expressed some dismay along the lines of there still wouldn't be trust and MTG then proposed that post-national divorce, the states could impose residency conditions on people moving in. BUT they would be immigrants at that point.

    • @MWSin1
      @MWSin1 Рік тому +11

      @@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Tap: Add one blue state to your mana pool.

    • @tomahawkchunker
      @tomahawkchunker Рік тому +8

      She also shouldnt have claimed a homestead exemption for both mansions, but Good Ol Boys don't have to worry about silly things like laws

    • @Naris48
      @Naris48 9 місяців тому +4

      No, her logic is that that only people from blue areas (Democrats) should not be allowed to vote. Those from red areas (Republicans) would have no such restrictions.

  • @rbourne35
    @rbourne35 Рік тому +160

    She called it a divorce because her husband asked for one. So it's a word she knows. Hard to give her the credit of thinking she planned anything deeper than that.

    • @notestine0221
      @notestine0221 Рік тому +8

      Not unlike Donald Drumpf... when he heard a new word he would use it as much as possible.

    • @crystalbluepartain3434
      @crystalbluepartain3434 Рік тому +2

      @@notestine0221 atleast gotta give him credit for trying to learn past a 4th grade reading level

    • @somoscuantos3069
      @somoscuantos3069 Рік тому

      No, she really means it. I don't know what she and the rest of them are waiting for? Get the hell out of here already!

  • @darraghmcentee7522
    @darraghmcentee7522 Рік тому +108

    As an Irish man living in the UK, and EU citizen, take it from me, don’t underestimate how powerful for some people a really stupid idea can become!

    • @dmgroberts5471
      @dmgroberts5471 10 місяців тому +13

      Step 1: Dig 4m deep hole.
      Step 2: Get into hole.
      Step 3: Blame Europe for hole.
      Step 4: ...profit?

    • @MyFiddlePlayer
      @MyFiddlePlayer 9 місяців тому

      Russian propaganda operations gave the USA Trump, and gave the UK Brexit. They weaken us any way they can think of.

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable 9 місяців тому

      as a lefty pro-ish EU person wtf has my country done? we keep fking every up constantly.

    • @JanWyman-gv7cc
      @JanWyman-gv7cc 9 місяців тому

      I know, huh? Gullible people, uninformed, they're everywhere! It's too bad so many innocent people pay the price for so much stupid! Regardless of country, etc, it's everywhere.

    • @chaoslord8918
      @chaoslord8918 8 місяців тому +4

      For some people, the really stupid ideas are the only ones they can process.

  • @samkasenberg898
    @samkasenberg898 Рік тому +52

    "Hypocrisy is their tradition, it's what tells them who they are". Couldn't have said it better myself.

  • @ferallemur
    @ferallemur Рік тому +145

    My favorite thing about MTG's call for a "national divorce" is that in her long rant about how after the national divorce red states would do their thing and blue states would do theirs, she made a point of saying how, in RED states, children in schools would sing the national anthem and recite THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE!!!
    You know... The thing we say about how we are loyal to our one, indivisible nation.
    The woman currently actively calling to divide into more than one nation is also actively claiming that her ilk are the ones who care about the pledge to, you know... not do that.

    • @crystalbluepartain3434
      @crystalbluepartain3434 Рік тому +17

      well said, also funny how they dont like gov telling them what to do yet want to force people to strike a pose for a flag of false freedom

    • @dmgroberts5471
      @dmgroberts5471 10 місяців тому +10

      She, and those like her, are far more interested in those things as trappings of tribal loyalty and "patriotism" than what they are supposed to represent. Equally, she doesn't actually _want_ to secede, she just wants the votes of people who like the idea.

    • @MyFiddlePlayer
      @MyFiddlePlayer 9 місяців тому +8

      @@crystalbluepartain3434 For them, ritual is more important than substance. Kind of like their professed belief in the teachings of Jesus.

    • @judipierry549
      @judipierry549 9 місяців тому +4

      @@MyFiddlePlayerespecially like that.

    • @johnnyjet3.1412
      @johnnyjet3.1412 7 місяців тому

      With "One Nation under Thor"!

  • @Kastila
    @Kastila Рік тому +123

    As a Brit, I'm curious: would those who have no representation under MTGs... "plan" still be subject to taxation?
    I understand there was a bit of a kerfuffle over that, some time back.

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen Рік тому +31

      I think they resolved that a long time back. Taxation without representation is only a problem if it's under a British king. Just as they resolved "I was only following orders" is only a problem if it was under the German Nazis. The US is very good at solving problems this way.

    • @cwalenta656
      @cwalenta656 Рік тому +2

      As an American, if I moved to the UK and worked there would I have to pay tax? Would I be allowed to vote initially? I'd have to become a citizen, correct? Let's say Scotland did leave the UK. Scottish people would still go to England and English people would still go to Scotland, would a person from Scotland post-independence be allowed to move to the UK and be allowed to vote at that point? That's be up to England of course, but ultimately England could treat with Scottish people as immigrants at that point, subject to taxation and potentially eligible for naturalization.

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 Рік тому +10

      Ask Puerto Rico.

    • @stephenspackman5573
      @stephenspackman5573 9 місяців тому +11

      Oh, believe me, you don't have to vote here to pay taxes. They're as serious about no taxation without representation as they are about the rule of law, checks and balances, the separation of church and state, or a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. See, there's an important legal principle that is articulated particularly clearly in the discussion of the second amendment: in US law, if a sentence has punctuation in it, you get to ignore the words.

    • @MyFiddlePlayer
      @MyFiddlePlayer 9 місяців тому +2

      For a hundred-plus years after that kerfuffle you mention, women and persons of color had to pay taxes without being allowed to vote. And still today, people in DC, Puerto Rico, and the territories pay federal taxes without having a voting senator or representative in Congress; also people with felony convictions don't get to vote in most places. Back in the day, the people who screamed "no taxation without representation" understood it to mean that the local rich white guys weren't being consulted on how the money was being spent, and even then they didn't really object too strongly until they figured out how much of it was being used to fund the UK's wars abroad instead of being spent locally in the colonies for infrastructure, etc.

  • @benjaminscott8198
    @benjaminscott8198 Рік тому +119

    As a Texan, I know how terrified Republicans are to allow everyone to vote.
    Since 2000, GOP has closed several dozen DMV offices and polling stations in rural and minority areas.
    In cities like Houston, it is very difficult to get around without a car.
    Our bus system can take an hour to get your 15 miles away to the closest DMV office or polling station.
    Then they begin Voter ID laws in 2003.
    In 2016, after voting at the school down the street from my house, I was told I was no longer able to vote there. I had to drive 10min away on the other side of the Beltway. Where buses don't go, causing a lot of people to walk to vote or just not vote.
    Even in November, it can be, and usually is, still hot outside.
    GOP has had control of Texas since 1995 and my state has only gone downhill.
    People tell me to move. No, my family has been here since the late 1850s, I am not abandoning my state. I will fight to fix it and get GOP out of office.

    • @KnightMage
      @KnightMage Рік тому

      Comedian, and all around smart guy, Steve Hofstetter, said that Texas really is a blue state. The only reason it isn't is because when the Republicans took power they gerrymandered the fuck out of us. Unless Democrats come out and vote and vote in full force Texas will remain a Red state; but the Republicans, as you mentioned, have put up so many barriers for minorities to vote.
      Honestly, I think people coming from Blue states here to Texas are going to miss some of what they had in their Blue state and vote Blue. On the local and national news people moving to Texas from California are doing so because they can get a bigger house in Texas for the same amount of money they bought their smaller house, few are moving for political reasons alone.
      I'm not leaving my state, I want to be here when Abbott and Costello getr thrown out of Austin. I'm not going to leave the state that - on my mothers side - has been here since Texas was a part of the Spanish Empire.

    • @gcb345
      @gcb345 Рік тому

      I hate to tell you this, but the way Texas is going, its looks like its going to be an authoritarian nightmare state long after you die!

    • @kathleencunningham6236
      @kathleencunningham6236 Рік тому +11

      Good luck to you. I hope rational thought and tolerance return to this country soon. Keep up the good fight.

    • @keirfarnum6811
      @keirfarnum6811 Рік тому +14

      I have read statements from Texans how it can be impossible and take years to register to vote as a Democrat. One guy mentioned how his application kept getting “lost” or it would get sent back due to some minor error. When he switched to Republican after two years of trying to register as a Democrat, his application was approved post haste. Funny how that works?

    • @princessmaly
      @princessmaly Рік тому

      I really hope it gets better one day. I grew up there, and there's a lot to like aboot Texas. Unfortunately, if I stayed, I'd have been killed. As much as I hope that people are able to overcome the voter suppression and gerrymandering to make it a better place, I just... can't deal with the horrifyingly exponential rise of hate and violence. It just isn't safe there anymore, and I think the way they are turning people into refugees is going to have an increasing effect on voting in Texas comparable to the other pressures.
      ...even just having refugees at all is so upsetting. Also, like, you know that other states have weather that doesn't murder you, right? It's a nice cool 43 over here in Washington right now. Just sayin'.

  • @christopherddrew7555
    @christopherddrew7555 Рік тому +178

    In Canada Quebec considered separating and forming its own country a number of times, the closest it came was in the mid 1990’s. It proposed a ‘sovereignty association’ arrangement, which more or less was ‘we will do whatever we as, as any independent country can do, but we also want to keep getting all of the Federal money as any Province gets to do’. Let’s just say the rest of the country was not on board with this plan.
    I should be clear though Quebec’s wanting to separate was and is much more akin to Scotland wanting to be an independent country than the south rising again.

    • @SiriusMined
      @SiriusMined Рік тому +51

      I was living in Buffalo area during that time. I remember one of the procession advocates getting questioned about how Quebec would fare financially if they seceded, and they responded how they have all these deals with the United States. The interviewer pointed out that those treaties and trade deals were with Canada, not Quebec, and Quebec would have to negotiate their own deals. The look on the secessionist guy's face was priceless. 😁

    • @SiriusMined
      @SiriusMined Рік тому +29

      One thing that got me was on the day of the vote, I was watching the coverage, and one guy I come out of voting and said Vive La France. We thought was hilarious, because France forgot about Quebec centuries ago

    • @christopherddrew7555
      @christopherddrew7555 Рік тому +14

      @@SiriusMined There were some big misunderstandings the general population had about what would happen to Quebec after it separated. I think not unlike the misunderstanding with Britain leaving the EU. Trade and debt were massive ones, so was defence and international travel.

    • @davidioanhedges
      @davidioanhedges Рік тому +7

      @@SiriusMined Most people in France would think he said Vive La France badly with an American accent ... Quebec French is already quite a long way from French, and still diverging

    • @CaseyBlase
      @CaseyBlase Рік тому

      Newfoundland I wager splits at some point due to climate change and new oil deposits. There will come a point where the planet will need us to not tap into that oil, but those that own the resources will want the reward for having them. Sort of like the Amazon.

  • @auntiewewe972
    @auntiewewe972 Рік тому +107

    We are witnessing not only the death of a political party, but an entire idealogy, a nostalgic heritage of privilege, hate, pride. When you decide to take your ball home with you it proves that not only are you losing, but there is no hope to come back. Growth, and change have defined America since her inception. And both are inevitable. The problem now is the growth of diversity, It's easy to claim all should be equal, when you are treated as superior. But once equality becomes real, or even just a possibility then you can see the obvious response from the right. Steve , there is only one Randy Rainbow, but there is also only one Steve Shives. We are lucky for both

    • @Siansonea
      @Siansonea Рік тому

      It won't die. The underlying psychology that gives rise to this ideology will be with humanity for all of its existence, unless we can find a medical cure for malignant narcissism.

    • @moonkey2712
      @moonkey2712 Рік тому +9

      Eric Cartman: "well then screw you guys, I'm going home"
      Also MTG: "screw you guys, I'm going home"

    • @matthiasnagorski8411
      @matthiasnagorski8411 Рік тому

      I've been feeling for a while now that the Republican party is pretty much doomed. I feel as though the Democrat party might absorb the center-conservatives, and in an election or two we may see a more progressive party split off from the Democrats, re-starting the two-party system.

  • @GrannyGamer1
    @GrannyGamer1 Рік тому +93

    They're dying.
    Painfully, slowly.
    That's just great.
    But, they're determined to take as many of us with them as they can.

    • @lisam5744
      @lisam5744 Рік тому +21

      Living in Florida and watching the unmasked hatred that is being made into law daily, you'll forgive me for wishing they would just hurry up and be no more.

  • @MahraiZiller
    @MahraiZiller Рік тому +37

    It's like a weird perverse version of Hanlon's razor:
    Never attribute to evil genius that which can be better attributed to Marjorie Taylor Green.

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen Рік тому +2

      I wonder what's next in this progression: GWB -> Trump -> MTG -> ... maybe Santos? But the real problem is the voters they still find. Remember, when Trump lost, he still got a record number of votes - it's just the Dems got an even better one. Barely. The problem with voter suppression is, *_it works._*

  • @Black-Swan-007
    @Black-Swan-007 Рік тому +33

    This man who says he doesn't like musicals chooses bits from my FAVORITE musical to do in this video. Bravo, Tevye. Bravo.

    • @brucemorris3830
      @brucemorris3830 Рік тому +5

      L’Chiam!! Fiddler On The Roof is a top 5 for me, too, hard to pick an absolute favorite of all time

    • @sloanekuria3249
      @sloanekuria3249 Рік тому +2

      He's just trying to scratch out a pleasant simple tune without breaking his neck.

  • @nikoteardrop4904
    @nikoteardrop4904 Рік тому +41

    Speaking as a queer disabled person in a very very VERY capital-R Red state, no, fucking don't secede. Seriously.

    • @Nortarachanges
      @Nortarachanges Рік тому +3

      Absolute agree! And what about the Many states that have red or blue state legislators and opposite party governors? My governor is a democrat, and I love him! And what about all the blue cities in the middle of red states? Do we get Austin?

    • @SkinnyEMedia
      @SkinnyEMedia Рік тому

      Leave now. For your own safety. Like the number of Ukrainian women who left when Russia was terrorising them.

  • @xavierplatinum279
    @xavierplatinum279 Рік тому +13

    The problem with criticizing kooks like MTG is that none of her followers are ever going to see it.

  • @lancejohnson8388
    @lancejohnson8388 Рік тому +69

    As an Australian, I have to say; this is the weirdest Star Trek topic you've covered. #DS94EVA

    • @klisterklister2367
      @klisterklister2367 Рік тому +14

      Are you thinking of the same ep as me? The one where julian and sisko and jadzia goes back in time to 2020

    • @seano4977
      @seano4977 Рік тому +5

      This really made me laugh

  • @quentinle4892
    @quentinle4892 Рік тому +42

    Marjorie seems to forget that she's from a blue state.

    • @FameyFamous
      @FameyFamous Рік тому +14

      Georgia went blue in the 2022 us senate and 2020 presidential races, but it looks like a red state from the perspective of the governor and the us house.
      Can we agree to call it a purple state?

    • @matthewdavis2853
      @matthewdavis2853 Рік тому +6

      Voted Democrat in the last presidential election and has two Democratic US Senators, but majority of the House members plus the governor and state legislature are Republican. Georgia is technically a nice bright purple.

    • @bcase5328
      @bcase5328 Рік тому +6

      I would like her to be psychology evaluated. There are times when I question her grip on reality.

    • @HolyBlowhole
      @HolyBlowhole Рік тому +2

      Gotta have some good gerrymandering to get a majority of Republican congressmen when the statewide population voted for a Democratic president and senators.

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen Рік тому +1

      @@bcase5328 Only times?

  • @lessonslearned2569
    @lessonslearned2569 Рік тому +15

    "John Brown's Body is moldering in the grave...."

  • @charleskubota8374
    @charleskubota8374 Рік тому +29

    Californian in the bay area... Admittedly a small sample but most of the people I know who have moved or talked about moving to "red" states usually do so because of the either the high cost of living here, or due to a job opportunity. The ones who talk about the tyranny of cali always end up on the same barstool week after week.

    • @cwalenta656
      @cwalenta656 Рік тому

      If a million people left CA this year, that'd be an insane number and even if they did, that would mean the vast majority would still remain in CA, right? Here's the thing, in my lifetime the slow trickle from NY to FL (or other states in the region), and the result is that FL now has more people than NY. The demographic flow is relatively slow actually, not an earthquake.

    • @aerrae5608
      @aerrae5608 9 місяців тому

      Job opportunity? That doesn't make much sense. Texas? Sure, there's a lot of tech companies moving there. Cary NC? Sure. Most of the south has far inferior job offerings though, that's WHY their cost of living is dirt cheap, you get what you pay for. No culture, no education, no high wage jobs for most.
      I'd rather pay out the ass then move back to Fl though. Funny enough blue states have more pathways for people without degrees to move up and get good jobs that treat them better.
      Plus all Cali peeps are gonna do are displace the poor idiots. They're coming in with their masters degree and 300k a year salary, buying a cheap house like it's nothing. That raises all prices, businesses start to cater to the new population, and in a couple of decades, the trailer parks have had to go deeper south because they can't compete.

  • @HermesSonofZeus
    @HermesSonofZeus Рік тому +10

    Rest in peace, Topol. He passed away 10 days after this came out.
    Also, MJT just got a divorce: at the end of last year, from her husband.

  • @chrissaldana9183
    @chrissaldana9183 Рік тому +6

    I like to call it Diet Secession: All the Taste, None of the Actual Consequences.

  • @lisam5744
    @lisam5744 Рік тому +39

    I remember a few years ago a bunch of these type of folks in TX were screaming for TX to secede. And when it was pointed out the second largest source of revenue in the state of TX was money from the federal government, suddenly the screaming quieted to the normal level of bitching and complaining. MTG only skill seems to be running her mouth. Which is par for the party. But I always remind myself that politicians are, after all, temporary.

    • @DavidRichardson153
      @DavidRichardson153 Рік тому +7

      Let's not forget that part of the reason Texas joined the US was because the debt from their 9 years of independence would not stop piling up. In other words, they needed a bailout. Throw in the Mexican-American war, and you have effectively solidified Texas' place in the Union, whom without which, Texas would have ceased to exist.
      So from the very beginning, Texas has only been able to exist because of the US. The fact that shortly after joining, they seceded and joined the Confederacy perfectly showcases the nonexistent memory and permanent (and I argue violent) hypocrisy of Texas.

  • @texasyojimbo
    @texasyojimbo Рік тому +15

    I see I am not the only one who randomly references Fiddler On The Roof.

  • @andrewgreenwood9068
    @andrewgreenwood9068 Рік тому +69

    It is amazing how right wing free market economics consistently leads to worse outcomes for the economy but there is still this idea that right wing parties are more responsible economic managers because they don't help the poor.

    • @sunyavadin
      @sunyavadin Рік тому +34

      "Well you see, I could invest all this money in better healthcare, education and infrastructure for the state that'd massively increase revenues, *or* I could be *fiscally responsible* and give it to this guy who went to the same prep school as me, who has this cryptocurrency exchange that promises a 900% return on investment"

    • @John73John
      @John73John Рік тому +1

      @@sunyavadin Well they can't invest in education, or the next generation of voters would be smart enough to not vote for them.

    • @TahoeNevada
      @TahoeNevada Рік тому +17

      GOP: Let the Market decide!
      Market: Decides [to attract as many customers as possible]
      GOP: No, not like that.

    • @miskatonic_alumni
      @miskatonic_alumni Рік тому +8

      Call them what they are; free market feudalists.

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable 9 місяців тому +2

      and how in a free market economy businesses and banks need bailing out?

  • @weirdkitty07
    @weirdkitty07 Рік тому +17

    What they should do is get rid of filibustering and gerrymandering, and do all voting by county, thus by state, the politician actually lives in. The corporate Rorshach test that makes up state voting districts is insane.

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen Рік тому +1

      County borders can be changed. Personally, I'd prefer voting districts drawn up by one of the many programs people have written to create non-partisan districts, as long as the resulting districts are as equal-size and non-salamander as possible, and the program doesn't know anything about vote results or related variables - just a population map. And then voting places distributed along some universal rule, too. Or you could just drop FPTP and vote parties. _Party-list proportional representation is the single most common electoral system and is used by 80 countries, and involves voters voting for a list of candidates proposed by a party._

    • @laflines8711
      @laflines8711 9 місяців тому

      Cities and counties sometimes change. But not all that much. If there is a change it can fall under the vote of the public to approve or disapprove. No longer will we allow politicians to mandate voting districts. Woohoo!

  • @jimmysmith2249
    @jimmysmith2249 Рік тому +43

    They are all traitors and should be dealt with as such.

    • @parker9012
      @parker9012 Рік тому

      So executed? That's the punishment for treason. Leftists and their guillotines, got to love the hypocrisy.

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield Рік тому +4

      Should've happened in the 60s

    • @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
      @ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@falconeshield***1860s. We were WAY too nice to them after the civil war. When radical reconstruction ended, jim crow began and didn't end for 100 years.

  • @derekdevs
    @derekdevs 9 місяців тому +6

    What MTG doesn’t seem to realize is that, although we are not divorced, as a nation, blue states are already paying alimony to red states by way of subsidies. Blue states account for a far greater percentage of the national GDP, and, in most cases, red states are mooching off of blue states tax dollars at the federal level. So, if she wants to separate red states and blue states, we can start with subsidies.

  • @sunyavadin
    @sunyavadin Рік тому +61

    It's truly terrifying to imagine what would happen to the populations of those states if they were to secede from the US, when they're all the states with the highest net dependency upon federal money.

    • @StormsparkPegasus
      @StormsparkPegasus Рік тому +15

      They're already third world countries. It would be 10x worse, think of the poorest countries in Africa and that'll be close.

    • @clairenollet2389
      @clairenollet2389 Рік тому +14

      Well, that's the thing. It's very tempting and emotionally satisfying to say, "Don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out." But what happens to the non-right-wing people who can't afford to flee to blue states? How oppressed and poor and marginalized will those poor people be? I can envision an almost apartheid oppression of the poor, the non-white, and the LGBTQI people. Almost a Republic of Gilead, with forced birth, etc.

    • @At0micPunk90
      @At0micPunk90 Рік тому

      Federal money paid for by the "blue" states they hate so much, no less.

    • @ChrisMaxfieldActs
      @ChrisMaxfieldActs Рік тому +8

      @@clairenollet2389 That's the plan, which is terrifying.

    • @TheSuperRatt
      @TheSuperRatt Рік тому +12

      @@StormsparkPegasus I wouldn't even compare them to Africa. Africa is collectively poorer than the West, because the West takes advantage of them. After "decolonization", the colonial powers made sure to leave behind economic and political infrastructure that would keep them perpetually poor and unstable (even funding/creating death squads to destroy stabilizing influences and movements), so that the global north could continue to extract resources for extremely cheap, in order to fund their lifestyles.
      Secessionist Red States wouldn't be like Africa, because they would have done that to themselves, and willingly.

  • @moonkey2712
    @moonkey2712 Рік тому +10

    I love it so much when the UA-camrs I know and like reveal that they are also fans of other ones I like. Warm fuzzy feelings.

  • @dwightvol9555
    @dwightvol9555 Рік тому +4

    There will never be a national divorce. We are already sleeping in separate bedrooms and seeing other people.

  • @williamblakehall5566
    @williamblakehall5566 Рік тому +14

    Thanks for the Randy Rainbow shout-out. He helps us keep our sanity -- trying to directly emulate him, though, may drive us a bit batty.

  • @michaelramon2411
    @michaelramon2411 Рік тому +11

    There's actually a kind of hilarious secession scheme in Georgia, where some guy from New York is trying to get the richer/whiter third of Atlanta to split off and become its own city, but keep Atlanta's water and school systems (so really, it would be the same except with its own police force and a redundant City Hall run by him and his friends). The actual population of this area is ambivalent on the idea, and every bill on the subject in the state legislature (which would have to approve it) has been supported exclusively by legislators who do NOT live in the area (and are mostly from lightly populated rural areas like Greene). So they are so into secession that they support other people seceding whether they want to or not!

  • @WhatDidIMiss
    @WhatDidIMiss Рік тому +28

    Let them do it. Look at the economies of "Blue" States next to "Red" States. Great video bud.

    • @floriangunzer6244
      @floriangunzer6244 Рік тому

      Had the same thought. The south isn't as well of economically right? I'm not from the U.S. so I don't really know

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 Рік тому

      Ignoring California which is a bit of an odd case, as their unusual tax structure means their state revenue bounces like a space hopper.

    • @o-mangaming5042
      @o-mangaming5042 9 місяців тому

      @@floriangunzer6244 The South is on life support and if they seceded again, they'd soon become a failed state that just flatlines.
      I live inside the border of that. I say bring it. MAKE us secede, cut the dead weight, and wait the generation or two to reclaim literal deadlands.

  • @markarellano-4856
    @markarellano-4856 Рік тому +9

    You're "Tradition" parody was absolutely über awesome! Well done, sir. Well done, indeed.

  • @ajlong404
    @ajlong404 Рік тому +2

    You. Are. Amazing. 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 Bravo!!!!!!!

  • @fabrisseterbrugghe8567
    @fabrisseterbrugghe8567 Рік тому +5

    My sister got a job in Georgia teaching college. Her previous work was in California. My parents moved with her. I lived in Washington DC.
    Dad died. Mom had a heart attack and two strokes. I moved to Georgia to help my sister. I don't want to live here. I didn't want to give up my job. I loved the District. My question is: under Greens suggestion, would I get to vote? After all, I didn't leave because I didn't love the policies.

    • @fabrisseterbrugghe8567
      @fabrisseterbrugghe8567 Рік тому

      I thought MTG was proposing an American Brexit.

    • @CraigKeidel
      @CraigKeidel 5 місяців тому

      The real kicker is these are rhetorically red voters, leaving a blue state unhappy with blue policies... And she wants to take away their votes for 5 years. Literally shooting herself in the foot after 10 seconds of causal analysis

  • @keiththorpe9571
    @keiththorpe9571 Рік тому +2

    Someone handed Marjorie Taylor Greene a copy of the Constitution...She ate it.

  • @PilotFlo
    @PilotFlo Рік тому +2

    like the idea of the original Brexiteers: Keep all the advantages but don't have the "disdantages". Didn't worked out quite the way they thought

  • @joearnold6881
    @joearnold6881 Рік тому +14

    Fascists gonna fash

  • @Thekingmaker
    @Thekingmaker Рік тому +8

    I could imagine a 3rd grader, who should really be in the first grade thinking this is a good idea .

  • @cripplious
    @cripplious Рік тому +7

    MTG wants all the funding just nothing else.

  • @Vesperitis
    @Vesperitis Рік тому +31

    When I was like 6 years old, I was having an argument with my parents and I threatened to run away from home.
    My mother instantly went "Okay then, go ahead."
    It is over thirty years later and I can still recall the bowel-clenching, blood-chilling, pants-wetting-inducing horror that gripped my idiot child self at the realization of "Holy shit what have I gotten myself into" followed by the immediate embarrassment at being called my bluff.
    So today, I say to Empty G, "Okay then, go ahead."

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen Рік тому +4

      So, at the age of 6, you were brighter than MTG. Umm ... not really a surprise.

  • @johnr7279
    @johnr7279 Рік тому +39

    Yeah, Margie is real ‘special.’ One thing that sets our nation apart from many others is that we figured out how to stay a single nation. Even her (MTG) divisiveness won’t divide us. She’s her own worst advocate.

    • @StormsparkPegasus
      @StormsparkPegasus Рік тому

      She's a fascist. She wants to bring back slavery and execute everyone that doesn't agree.

    • @GPantazis
      @GPantazis Рік тому +2

      I'm sure that's exactly what Kaiser Karl thought

    • @MrJohndoakes
      @MrJohndoakes Рік тому +1

      She should be teaching Yoga or running a pool cleaning company, not in Congress. Real legal skill and political gumption is beyond her.

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen Рік тому +1

      @@GPantazis There's a lot that went wrong (for some of it, "went wrong" is very euphemistic) in the history of Germany, but ever since Bismarck created a modern Germany in 1871, I'm not aware Germany ever had any real problems with one of the states trying to secede.
      Only marginally related, Bismarck, an arch-conservative, also created the first modern welfare state - because he wanted to prevent revolutions. He may have been a conservative, but he wasn't stupid.

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen Рік тому

      Perhaps I should add, there are some reports that he decided against trying to add Austria because he didn't want even more Catholic states in Germany. Whatever that's worth.

  • @Vipre-
    @Vipre- Рік тому +7

    Vocal secessionists in Congress, that takes me back. Surprising in the 21st century but nostalgic nonetheless.

  • @renatocorvaro6924
    @renatocorvaro6924 Рік тому +12

    MTG isn't competent to be left in a room with sharp objects, let alone make law.

    • @Adamdidit
      @Adamdidit Рік тому +5

      I dont believe you. We should test this theory.

  • @user-cz9jf1ec8s
    @user-cz9jf1ec8s Рік тому +2

    As a former conservative, I’m glad that our universities teach more progressive ideas than old ideas. I’m thrilled that the internet has allowed good knowledge to spread all across the world, even if it is amid misinformation and/or often gets firewalled.
    But you can’t stop the signal, for better or worse. I have much hope for mankind and future generations. As a former conservative, I would only ask for patience as this nation, at least, slowly gets dragged toward progress. I know and understand why young people want a revolution, they want a better world now. Just make sure you don’t engage in evil to rid the world of it. 🌎🌍🌏❤
    We’ll get there. Because we have to.

  • @randysmith2866
    @randysmith2866 9 місяців тому +2

    Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz, Lauren Bobert, Jim Jordan. WTF happened to white people in America?!

  • @JessieGender1
    @JessieGender1 Рік тому +7

    His Morty was near perfecr

    • @lillygodzilly
      @lillygodzilly Рік тому

      Omg! As a transgirl Trekkie I love both your channels and get a little geek happy when I see one comment on the others channel 😅

  • @arandomboot598
    @arandomboot598 7 місяців тому +1

    The idea of “Go ahead. fucking do it and see what happens” is my overall attitude towards this

  • @danielgertler5976
    @danielgertler5976 Рік тому +10

    Any and all voter suppression, even just as some random comment off the cuff, is a big red flag

  • @ShawnML2
    @ShawnML2 Рік тому

    Thank you!! I loved every word of this. I appreciate you posting it, as I enjoy your channel. Really excellent!

  • @arisspenjian1220
    @arisspenjian1220 Рік тому

    I’ve been binging your old Trek videos recently and loving your channel.

  • @SiriusMined
    @SiriusMined Рік тому +7

    Steve, spittin mad bars at the end. Who says you're no Rainbow Randy? 🥰

  • @kayleighlehrman9566
    @kayleighlehrman9566 Рік тому +1

    MTG is from Georgia... A state with two Democratic senators, that voted for Joe Biden in 2020, and a state where Republicans only hold a slight majority of the legislature which has shrunk over the past decade. Absolute pinnacle of Republican values.

  • @wreitz455
    @wreitz455 Рік тому

    I agree with everything you have said. Makes me feel like I am in an echo chamber of my own mind. You state things so succinctly and bluntly. Many times I feel something is wrong but cant see all the reasons why. You lay it all out there. Thank you for that.

  • @MichaelLloydMobile
    @MichaelLloydMobile 9 місяців тому +1

    Your Randy Rainbow comment was awesome!

  • @lisabrewer7825
    @lisabrewer7825 Рік тому +5

    What about the purple states? States like Arizona are shifting and are not consistently one color.

    • @benroberts2222
      @benroberts2222 Рік тому +6

      Conservatives have a hard time with nonbinary thinking

    • @tmartin6300
      @tmartin6300 4 місяці тому +1

      States are more purple when it comes to the popular vote and not the electoral. There are a lot of Democrats who live in Texas, but their state is completely gerrymandered, and their electoral college hasn’t voted Democrat since Jimmy Carter in 1976.

  • @alanbear6505
    @alanbear6505 Рік тому +2

    You’re not Randy Rainbow, but he’s no Steve Shives. The internet is a richer place for having both of you. 0:19

  • @justamaninTN
    @justamaninTN 7 місяців тому +1

    I live in a red state right now (Tennessee, Nashville area). If our representatives actually suggest secession, I am out of here immediately and moving back up north where I came from.

  • @danieldk2
    @danieldk2 Рік тому

    I remember when Scottish politicians were pushing for independence from the UK a few years ago. Saying that North Sea oil and gas would fund them. When the UK Government asked how that would pay their share of the national debt. Depending on population size or seats in the House of Representatives. That’s between $13.5 and $16 trillion dollars. While the US military might be negotiated to be split as part of the separation. The new country could not be allowed nuclear weapons under many international treaties the US signed. I think many would think again at abandoning any claim to a world power at that.

  • @Vulcanerd
    @Vulcanerd 6 місяців тому

    Wow, that was a very Robert Picardo-esque singing at the end there, kudos!

  • @bronzeageancientone4844
    @bronzeageancientone4844 Рік тому +8

    I am still holding out hope that I will get my ancestoral home of Candyland back from those yankee carpetbaggers! It's about state's rights, not slavery!!! ;)

  • @swaslaukinonome
    @swaslaukinonome 9 місяців тому

    Grew up around a lot of midwestern ranchers and farmers receiving massive amounts of subsidies and tax breaks who were convinced the federal government and city slickers were oppressing them, somehow. They never liked to talk about where taxes that paid their subsidies, disaster relief, etc. came from. It's the regional version of people on Social Security voting for the dismantling of Social Security.

  • @danielpruna9884
    @danielpruna9884 6 місяців тому

    You are animated and comically entertaining as well as informative about the madness of Republicans. 👍👍

  • @Kwasimitsu
    @Kwasimitsu 9 місяців тому +1

    Great content. The Last Jedi line got my subscription.

  • @Bridget108p
    @Bridget108p Рік тому +6

    More singing! Yay!

  • @CraigKeidel
    @CraigKeidel 5 місяців тому

    Love how I got an ad for A24's new movie "Civil War" right before this. Whewww

  • @gcronnelly
    @gcronnelly Рік тому +2

    Good luck MTG.. enjoy Kentucky, Alabama and Louisiana!

  • @MrCoalmin
    @MrCoalmin Рік тому +1

    More of these please.

  • @bmurali5128
    @bmurali5128 6 місяців тому

    Wonderful summary

  • @carlastarkey4775
    @carlastarkey4775 9 місяців тому

    That song at the end, well done!

  • @freeshrugs63
    @freeshrugs63 6 місяців тому

    Awesome. Loved especially the song.

  • @dfuher968
    @dfuher968 Рік тому +2

    Remember, its not just, that its almost exclusively red states receiving more federal funds, than they pay. Its also all the other federal stuff. Military bases, federal departments, national parks etc etc etc with all the jobs, that come with them.
    I dont remember the exact number, but when Lake in Arizona campaigned for governor saying, she wanted the federal government out of Arizona, that when all was counted from the military bases to social security checks, Arizona would lose about 2/3 of its economic basis. And that was just the economy.

    • @ziploc2000
      @ziploc2000 Рік тому

      All these empty vessels like Greene, Lake and Boebert do a lot of screaming but haven't got a clue what would actually happen if they got their way.
      I'm all for the Federal Government no longer propping up these loser states. The Democrats with good educations will move out by choice, the RethugliKKans will die off, and in a generation or two we can repopulate the areas with people who don't marry their cousins.

  • @DawnDavidson
    @DawnDavidson Рік тому

    LOL - nice impression of Randy Rainbow! ;)

  • @djburnette87
    @djburnette87 Рік тому +1

    The vibrato🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿lol minute4:25 yesss. I was just thinking that

  • @DustinM83
    @DustinM83 Рік тому +1

    Welp, that little diddy at the end will be stuck in my head for a while - and I'm okay with that. Suppression!

  • @Jayk129
    @Jayk129 Рік тому +1

    Hey Marge. Just so you know, as a lefty woke-scold who lives in a very conservative reliably Republican deep red state that just so happens to have an incredibly strong commitment to Public Education with a super strong teachers union, and who’ve lived under entrenched textbook Socialism in the form of universal publicly owned non-profit utilities for almost 100 years; I don’t think the red/blue separation will be nearly as simple as you think it will.

  • @fukgoogle1317
    @fukgoogle1317 9 місяців тому +2

    If we could first know where we are, and whither we are tending, we could better judge what to do, and how to do it.
    We are now far into the fifth year, since a policy was initiated, with the avowed object, and confident promise, of putting an end to slavery agitation.
    Under the operation of that policy, that agitation has not only, not ceased, but has constantly augmented.
    In my opinion, it will not cease, until a crisis shall have been reached, and passed -
    "A house divided against itself cannot stand."
    I believe this government cannot endure, permanently half slave and half free.
    I do not expect the Union to be dissolved - I do not expect the house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided.
    It will become all one thing, or all the other..... Abraham Lincoln Ilinois Republican State Convention, Springfield, Illinois June 16, 1858
    Abraham Lincoln was elected president November 6th 1860. Abraham Lincoln was inaugurated March 4th 1861. South Carolina seceded December 20th 1860.
    At 0430 a.m. April 12th 1861 the Confederacy attacked and fired upon United States Fort Sumter in South Carolina's Charleston harbor.
    It was not a war of northern aggression. It was not a war of states rights. It was a war for the unreasonable inhuman sociopathic demand that they, the southern slave masters, continue their practice of using humans as farm equipment for the wealth of Southern slavemasters.
    Republicans are just as dishonest and delusional today as they were when the Confederate traitors started their war against America and democracy.
    Republicans foundational ideologies are all lies meant to make the wealthy wealthier by taking and taking from normal people and contributing nothing to the society from which they only thieve.
    Healthcare is a human right.
    Education is a human right.
    Living wages is a human right.
    REPRESENTATIVE democracy is a human right.
    Plunder and mass incarceration are crimes against humanity.

  • @randykoger4646
    @randykoger4646 Рік тому +2

    Nice job with the Fiddler on the Roof song reference.

    • @allanolley4874
      @allanolley4874 Рік тому +1

      Thank you I was going I know that song but what is it.

    • @randykoger4646
      @randykoger4646 Рік тому +1

      @@allanolley4874 it’s “Tradition” from the opening scene of the film.

    • @allanolley4874
      @allanolley4874 Рік тому +1

      @@randykoger4646 Yeah I figured that out when I read your Fidler on the Roof comment hence why I thanked you.

  • @kythian
    @kythian 6 місяців тому

    I appreciate the Fiddler on the Roof bit.
    😁

  • @beardedbear9901
    @beardedbear9901 Рік тому +1

    Subbed for your Batman videos and now I discover you're also openly and proudly on the left, plus, you like The Last Jedi. What a wonderful surprise.

  • @otrame
    @otrame 6 місяців тому

    Stevie, I love that you didn't bother to define pareidolia. You rock so very much.
    That said, you are right about another thing. You are not Randy Rainbow. I think it is the beard.

  • @beaurobinson2059
    @beaurobinson2059 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video Steve. Loved the song parody at the end

  • @raymondg7565
    @raymondg7565 7 місяців тому

    You are spot on.

  • @e.458
    @e.458 9 місяців тому +1

    It's like a trophy wife's divorce with enormous alimony.

  • @tienshan9819
    @tienshan9819 Рік тому +2

    My impression is that "divorce" here means turning the USA into the CSA, not secession per se. I mean, insofar that MTG has given this any real thought.

  • @NikolausWalch
    @NikolausWalch Рік тому

    Well said!

  • @lostbutfreesoul
    @lostbutfreesoul Рік тому +4

    They don't want Succession... no, they want something worse:
    The codification of Political Parties and their control over State Legislatures.
    If you read the bill proposed by the likes of Greene it isn't about separating the United States into two different countries. It is about giving the two political parties the authority to create laws that prevent any other political party from openly operating within a State. While this illusion looks very similar, two parties controlling different chunks-o-land, the outcome of this plan will be far worse then having two independent countries....

  • @ryancoulter4797
    @ryancoulter4797 Рік тому +2

    Right under your video is ST:TAS The Master Race. You’re giving my UA-cam feed ideas, Steve. /s lol

  • @zachnesmith
    @zachnesmith Рік тому +1

    “WE WANT A NATIONAL DIVORCE!”
    “You have made me *sniffle* so….happy.”

  • @butters88871
    @butters88871 Рік тому

    At it again! My dude i love the political commentary

  • @ThatGuy-xg5hj
    @ThatGuy-xg5hj 9 місяців тому +1

    😂😂"im not Randy Rainbow"
    Well both of you Cool AF in my book 👍

  • @mr.spider267
    @mr.spider267 Рік тому

    I was waiting for someone to sing that. I knew two of my great-grandparents into my thirties. They sometimes would tell us what their grandparents told them about a certain civil war they fight in/lived through. It did not go well.

  • @idontknowaboutthat1904
    @idontknowaboutthat1904 Рік тому

    Was that end song a parody of Fidler On The Roof? Anyway, great commentary!

  • @HobGungan
    @HobGungan Рік тому +2

    Fiddler on the Roof is a very apt reference, given the group of people supporters of the Right tend to place as their biggest Boogeyman if you dig deep enough.

  • @mrb.5610
    @mrb.5610 Рік тому +8

    Hit the nail on the head as usual.
    Keep the money, keep the power.

  • @trshd
    @trshd Рік тому

    DAYUM Steve!

  • @tukicat1399
    @tukicat1399 Рік тому +1

    We need a ranking or stars for likes, more for the R Rainbow reference... even more for the showtune!!