Really clever and quite unique...God is good! Yes...he made us so we, (you), can do this! While rounding the inside of the drum, the vibrating causes a "mama..Maama..mama..Maama..sound! Thanks very much. You're very gifted.
Best stave snare build video I've found yet. Straight forward, informative, detailed enough. Bryan 212, can you tell me the dimensions of your jigs you made for the rounding of the interior and the exterior of the drum? Just some of the measurements of the height of your stand, width of the castors, circumference of your 'holding disks' for the spindle mounted exterior routing, size of the threaded rod, etc. I really appreciate the help! My son and I are tackling our first stave snare build, and I want to get it right!
Very good job I might suggest the next time you do this you take a drum sander you could have the hoop or the cylinder of wood rotating on your caster figure and then feed the belt sander or drum sander in the middle same with the outside to make it a little faster. Did a great job though
hello friend, very good video, I ask you what are the dimensions that should be taken into account for each wooden "tablet" Bass drum 22" Tom 8, 10" 12" And 16" And the 14"? Thanks
Great job. I am thinking of doing one for myself too. I am just not sure about the wood at all. Would for example larch be better or worse than oak? Or plum tree any different for cherry? Is there any general rules for sound characteristics? Like predictably more rounded sound for maple?
Rosewoods are known for their beautiful sound. Brazilian rosewood is almost impossible to get since the laws last yr. Bolivian rosewood and other can still be found. With that said, you may have good luck with harder woods, like maple. Cherry is a soft wood. The best way to go about this is find a wood you think is beautiful. Then, google the wood and see what the "hardness" is compared to rosewood, oak or maple. If the wood you picked is soft (similar hardness scale as cherry) you may want to reconsider. I am not saying soft woods will sound bad, they may not hold up as long over time. You can always reach out to me if you have a question about a wood. Good luck.
You know, I’m really into the Japanese thing and they’re really good at making those beautiful and simple wooden buckets but there is minimal information out there on how to make them, and the way they do is so traditional, albeit respectable, it’s just far too time consuming for me. I finally find these snare drum DIY’s are essentially the same and I was like, “If I can only find someone who shows how to round the inside...” and here we are! You’re a genius sir.
there are plenty of guys on youtube using this style jig for snare interiors. If you haven't found one until now, you simply weren't looking. Murray drums is where I first saw it and it's the same style jig I use myself.
I don’t get it, I’ve cut all my staves exactly to the measurements that the online stave calculator everyone uses says to and when I put all of them together I see some space between them when I hold it up to the light. Did all your staves sit perfectly flush with each other or did you not look that close and just glued? Great vid thanks!
So, if your angle is off by even a degree or half a degree, this can have a big effect when you multiply it by 20 or 30 (depending on how many staves you have).
1/2" straight cut bit for the turning of the inside and outside of shell. Then, a 45 degree bit for inside of the rim on top and bottom. An 1/8" round-over bit for the top and bottom outside. All bits are found at any harware store.
I have to know. How many tries did it take before you got that outcome? Or how many times did you fail? I've been trying to follow what you do and the first round didn't go so well. 😅
This video was my first snare. I didn't have any errors that resulted in scrapping the project. However, I spent quality time making both jigs and took my time turning the outside and inside. I have been woodworking for 25 yrs, so my basic skills are solid. You need to start with a pattern [drawn out on graph paper with the math/angles calculated] Then, you need your table saw to be "true" as you rip the boards and cut the degrees/angles. Once you get this done you need to dry-fit the 16 staves of wood on the graph drawing to see if it all fits. Blue tape it together, cut one joint, fold out, glue, strap and wait 24 hrs. The next CRITICAL step is making sure your "perfectly" round jigs are clamped as "perfectly" as you can in the center of both sides of the 16-stave circle. Once you put this together [hampster wheel] with your router underneath, take your time spining the wheel as the router takes off a 1/16-1/8 of an inch of wood.....keep repeating until you reach 14" or even 13 15/16". Then, you need to set up the internal jig, which sits on a centered/calculated 4-places casters. Test out how it rolls and get your router centered inside the drum. The MOST IMPORTANT part of turning the inside is not letting your router hop[which sits on your channel that slides]. And, as your spin your drum and slide the channel/router make sure you dont let the drum lift off of any of the 4 casters. The inside is the most difficult part and your jig needs to be SOLID. once you get the thickness down to 3/8 - 1/2" [pick your preference] you are done with the jigs. Now it will be all about sanding, sanding, sanding and patience, patience, patience. If you need more help let me know. I can always make a seconds video.
I think I just answered this 2 days ago. But, no worries, I will explain: a circle is 360 degrees. I used/clamped 16 staves together to make the circle. Each stave has 2 sides(angle cuts) for a total of 32 cuts/angles. 360 degrees divided by 32 = 11.25 degrees. Some people make drums with 12, 14, 16, even 20 staves. The less is better, bcz less glue. If you used 12 staves then the angle will be 15 degrees. Good luck
Just wanted to know what is the angle of the inner pieces of the wood .Doing the slight angel so the panels create the circle we notice one side is straight and the other side the pieces are angled so how much is the angle please thanks Gina
Bryan 212 thank you Brian212 so much if we need more information can you email on waya681@gmail.com so if my husband needs to ask any thing can he thanks Gina
Just put the two perfectly round plywood sides on with the bolt thru the middle. Tighten it loosely and just measure all the way around each side and get it as perfect as you can. Once you start turning the drum it will round-out perfectly
Bryan 212 yes, my question is about the variance in height between each segment on the edge that is going to contact the round mdf. How did you even those out before clamping with the mdf?
@@halfwayj2766 - glued and clamped it on a level/smooth surface, in order to get one side near-perfect. Once dry, I clamped a higher straight-edge on my table saw and 'roll-cut' the uneven edge of drum (roll cutting).
Some of it depends on what quality of Lugs, Hoops, Throw/Butt Plate and other hardware. As for the drum shell, I would charge $400-$450 for the Bocote wood. It is a more expensive wood. All in, I would have sold the Bocote drum in this video for $600-$650. Email me anytime at Mytake212@gmail.com if you have more questions and we can discuss.
This drum [in the video] was a gift. I have sold others since then. If you are interested in buying or anyone, let me know. Can make custom; pick your wood species and hardware.
Fyi, the drum head is a silent stroke, not a regular head. I am not sure if you are familiar with those? They are practive heads that reduce noise by 75% without losing the feel of an actual drum head. I am making a 22" base drum and a snare for a guy. I will post a vid. Cheers.
Who taught you to sand raw timber? Never go against the grain by hand bud, once it's clear coated you can but not on the raw timber. Hurt to watch, could hear the timber crying.
Hey stupid, have you made a "round" object out of wood? I have been woodworking for 20 yrs. When you get beyond 220 grit it isnt going to hurt the "round" object. Why dont you go make a drum shell and sand it (with a video i can watch) and let's see how it turns out.
Bryan 212 I'm a qualified French Polisher and have been for 30+ years. I've built drums as I'm also a keen drummer, except I use a wood lathe and not your diy router thingy contraption. The grain pattern runs straight regardless of it being round and any sandpaper will leave scratches if you sand against the grain. I'll ignore the stupid comment as I've forgotten more about timber finishing than you'll ever know.
Way to go Bonzo the wood lathe French polisher who calls himself certified:) Maybe try putting a vid of you making a drum and being a "keen" drummer instead of watchn peoples vids and bashing them. Glad you are not a woodworking teacher, you might beat your students for sanding the wrong direction:)
Bryan 212 let me know your email address and I'll send you a copy of my trade certificate. Why do you get so upset at advice from others? I thought you'd be keen for any tips from people with tones more experience than yourself. How else do we learn in life? Please let me know a way I can send you photos of my drums, oh and my trade certificate.
Really clever and quite unique...God is good! Yes...he made us so we, (you), can do this! While rounding the inside of the drum, the vibrating causes a "mama..Maama..mama..Maama..sound! Thanks very much. You're very gifted.
I made a kalimba out of bocote a long time ago. Gorgeous wood, and makes for a beautiful drum shell. Well done.
Really enjoyed the jigs. Awesome build!
As a drummer I am Soooooo looking forward to hearing this work of art!
Very clever the way you cleaned up the inside and outside with your custom router jig. Working smarter, not harder. Great work!
Thanks. When you don't have a lathe you gotta be creative:)
Great job!! Looks and sounds amazing!!
I build stave drums as well, and I think I’m going to have to steal your setup to mill the inside of the shell. Awesome work dude!!
Love it! This was a great gift.
Looks amazing. Well done.
Well, im watching at your video because i saw your comment on Joseph Center's video.
you did a great work Dude!!!
Kudosss!!!
Oh Man! Very good! Congratulations!
great video, I appreciate you sharing this! the drum is amazing.
watching this is like finding piece of the jigsaw on how I can make a drum shell. Brilliant idea using the router to get the outside round.]
Beautiful!
Best stave snare build video I've found yet. Straight forward, informative, detailed enough. Bryan 212, can you tell me the dimensions of your jigs you made for the rounding of the interior and the exterior of the drum? Just some of the measurements of the height of your stand, width of the castors, circumference of your 'holding disks' for the spindle mounted exterior routing, size of the threaded rod, etc. I really appreciate the help! My son and I are tackling our first stave snare build, and I want to get it right!
Do you have plans for the two jigs, they are fantastic!
Gorgeous! Your jigs are very ingenious. So how thick is the final shell?
Yes man i m making one thanks for the tips
Very good job I might suggest the next time you do this you take a drum sander you could have the hoop or the cylinder of wood rotating on your caster figure and then feed the belt sander or drum sander in the middle same with the outside to make it a little faster. Did a great job though
Impressive job. Congrats.
Julien M - thank you
Hi Bryan 212, what is the OD of this barrel? How do you calculate the OD barrel?
Thank you
So cool!
hello friend, very good video, I ask you what are the dimensions that should be taken into account for each wooden "tablet"
Bass drum 22"
Tom 8, 10" 12" And 16" And the 14"?
Thanks
Bocote is also named cordia, which Tama has used for its Artstar line of drums.
Que madeira linda mano, poderia nos dizer qual o nome desta madeira?
Lindo seu trabalho, parabéns...
How did yoh center the shell on the jig for turning the outside?
Amazing
what are the measurements of the pieces of wood and what is the slope of the cuts?
Qual é a madeira usada nessa fabricação..???
What kind of wood is it? , and where can I find it?
This was really very good! How would you do it if the outside had a curvature?
Kumuk 99 - Thank you. For a curved drum you may need to steam and bend, or use a lathe. A possible jig for a router could work.
Snare bed tho? I would enjoy a video on how the jigs were made thanks for sharing!
Colt Newkirk I can only assume there is none, which would explain why it sounds like complete shit
Perfeito !!!
Great job. I am thinking of doing one for myself too. I am just not sure about the wood at all. Would for example larch be better or worse than oak? Or plum tree any different for cherry? Is there any general rules for sound characteristics? Like predictably more rounded sound for maple?
Rosewoods are known for their beautiful sound. Brazilian rosewood is almost impossible to get since the laws last yr. Bolivian rosewood and other can still be found. With that said, you may have good luck with harder woods, like maple. Cherry is a soft wood. The best way to go about this is find a wood you think is beautiful. Then, google the wood and see what the "hardness" is compared to rosewood, oak or maple. If the wood you picked is soft (similar hardness scale as cherry) you may want to reconsider. I am not saying soft woods will sound bad, they may not hold up as long over time. You can always reach out to me if you have a question about a wood. Good luck.
You said tapered in at 11.25. Are you saying that's the degree angel you set your saw?
Linda parabéns 😊
Amazing job!, how long does it usually take from scratch to finish?... Cheers!
Nice work, but what about the bed for snare, sounds like no bed
Nice !!!
I know it's an old video but where did you get the logo badge made?
how much for a 26X15 ? just the shell no holes in it
Very nice
Ive found the jig needs something over the top when doing the inside.
Or the blade can dig in if the shell lifts off the wheels.
Beautiful job.
Love it.
You know, I’m really into the Japanese thing and they’re really good at making those beautiful and simple wooden buckets but there is minimal information out there on how to make them, and the way they do is so traditional, albeit respectable, it’s just far too time consuming for me. I finally find these snare drum DIY’s are essentially the same and I was like, “If I can only find someone who shows how to round the inside...” and here we are! You’re a genius sir.
Funny you comment on this because a family member just asked if I could make a wooden bucket for her greenhouse. Goodluck.
there are plenty of guys on youtube using this style jig for snare interiors. If you haven't found one until now, you simply weren't looking. Murray drums is where I first saw it and it's the same style jig I use myself.
I don’t get it, I’ve cut all my staves exactly to the measurements that the online stave calculator everyone uses says to and when I put all of them together I see some space between them when I hold it up to the light. Did all your staves sit perfectly flush with each other or did you not look that close and just glued? Great vid thanks!
So, if your angle is off by even a degree or half a degree, this can have a big effect when you multiply it by 20 or 30 (depending on how many staves you have).
Nice. What tipe of wood did u use?
Thank you. I used Bocote, it is a central american hardwood, similar to Zocote. Its about as hard as maple. I really enjoyed working with it.
Nice!!
This is one of the things i really want to try. To make my own snare drum.
Soon ill be doing it
Hope i can do one as good as yours
Song at the beginning: The Resistance from Skillet
Just curious what kinda router bit you’re using, I’m new to routers and am looking to start building shells at home for fun.
1/2" straight cut bit for the turning of the inside and outside of shell. Then, a 45 degree bit for inside of the rim on top and bottom. An 1/8" round-over bit for the top and bottom outside. All bits are found at any harware store.
Bryan 212 awesome! Thanks for the reply! Also, I love the build!
I have to know. How many tries did it take before you got that outcome? Or how many times did you fail? I've been trying to follow what you do and the first round didn't go so well. 😅
This video was my first snare. I didn't have any errors that resulted in scrapping the project. However, I spent quality time making both jigs and took my time turning the outside and inside. I have been woodworking for 25 yrs, so my basic skills are solid. You need to start with a pattern [drawn out on graph paper with the math/angles calculated] Then, you need your table saw to be "true" as you rip the boards and cut the degrees/angles. Once you get this done you need to dry-fit the 16 staves of wood on the graph drawing to see if it all fits. Blue tape it together, cut one joint, fold out, glue, strap and wait 24 hrs. The next CRITICAL step is making sure your "perfectly" round jigs are clamped as "perfectly" as you can in the center of both sides of the 16-stave circle. Once you put this together [hampster wheel] with your router underneath, take your time spining the wheel as the router takes off a 1/16-1/8 of an inch of wood.....keep repeating until you reach 14" or even 13 15/16". Then, you need to set up the internal jig, which sits on a centered/calculated 4-places casters. Test out how it rolls and get your router centered inside the drum. The MOST IMPORTANT part of turning the inside is not letting your router hop[which sits on your channel that slides]. And, as your spin your drum and slide the channel/router make sure you dont let the drum lift off of any of the 4 casters. The inside is the most difficult part and your jig needs to be SOLID. once you get the thickness down to 3/8 - 1/2" [pick your preference] you are done with the jigs. Now it will be all about sanding, sanding, sanding and patience, patience, patience. If you need more help let me know. I can always make a seconds video.
Thank you! I really appreciate the help
Could you tell me what angle you used on the pieces please
I think I just answered this 2 days ago. But, no worries, I will explain: a circle is 360 degrees. I used/clamped 16 staves together to make the circle. Each stave has 2 sides(angle cuts) for a total of 32 cuts/angles. 360 degrees divided by 32 = 11.25 degrees. Some people make drums with 12, 14, 16, even 20 staves. The less is better, bcz less glue. If you used 12 staves then the angle will be 15 degrees. Good luck
so gut gebaut aber dann so blöd gefilmt am ende das der sound nicht wirklich zur geltung kommt schade
Just wanted to know what is the angle of the inner pieces of the wood .Doing the slight angel so the panels create the circle we notice one side is straight and the other side the pieces are angled so how much is the angle please thanks Gina
There are 16 staves, each side of each piece is tapered at 11.25 degrees, totalling 365 degrees. I hope this helps.
Oops, 360 degrees
Bryan 212 thank you Brian212 so much if we need more information can you email on waya681@gmail.com so if my husband needs to ask any thing can he thanks Gina
Hello! how do i calculate the measurements of the wooden pieces to mount a 12 inch snare?
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Thank you Jhon!!
Hey Bryan how did you level the edges of the shell before mounting it on the round guides on the outside milling jig?
Just put the two perfectly round plywood sides on with the bolt thru the middle. Tighten it loosely and just measure all the way around each side and get it as perfect as you can. Once you start turning the drum it will round-out perfectly
Bryan 212 yes, my question is about the variance in height between each segment on the edge that is going to contact the round mdf. How did you even those out before clamping with the mdf?
Bryan 212 sorry, plywood circles, not mdf
@@halfwayj2766 - glued and clamped it on a level/smooth surface, in order to get one side near-perfect. Once dry, I clamped a higher straight-edge on my table saw and 'roll-cut' the uneven edge of drum (roll cutting).
awesome work
Thanks bud.
Hey friend! How much would it cost me for you to build me a snare?!
Some of it depends on what quality of Lugs, Hoops, Throw/Butt Plate and other hardware. As for the drum shell, I would charge $400-$450 for the Bocote wood. It is a more expensive wood. All in, I would have sold the Bocote drum in this video for $600-$650. Email me anytime at Mytake212@gmail.com if you have more questions and we can discuss.
No snare bed?
Yes, I think a 2mm bed, but I didn't put that in the video.
Would you be willing to release the plans?
Sure, no prob.
@@bryan2127 hey! Was wondering also where I could get a hold of those plans/that template you used
Did you sell it to him?
This drum [in the video] was a gift. I have sold others since then. If you are interested in buying or anyone, let me know. Can make custom; pick your wood species and hardware.
For my it is the best the world
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Calculation ?
Calculations for what?
Should have tuned it better
You don't like the way it sounds?
Bryan 212 no,its not off by far..but still not perfect for me
Maybe it the recording device.but one thing for sure I would definitely buy a whole set with that quality make.if it can be shipped to Kenya ofcourse
Fyi, the drum head is a silent stroke, not a regular head. I am not sure if you are familiar with those? They are practive heads that reduce noise by 75% without losing the feel of an actual drum head. I am making a 22" base drum and a snare for a guy. I will post a vid. Cheers.
Oof. Couldn't finish for the 90's PowerPoint transition effects. Next time just leave em out, will make for a more organic and enjoyable video
Who taught you to sand raw timber?
Never go against the grain by hand bud, once it's clear coated you can but not on the raw timber.
Hurt to watch, could hear the timber crying.
Hey stupid, have you made a "round" object out of wood? I have been woodworking for 20 yrs. When you get beyond 220 grit it isnt going to hurt the "round" object. Why dont you go make a drum shell and sand it (with a video i can watch) and let's see how it turns out.
Bryan 212 I'm a qualified French Polisher and have been for 30+ years.
I've built drums as I'm also a keen drummer, except I use a wood lathe and not your diy router thingy contraption.
The grain pattern runs straight regardless of it being round and any sandpaper will leave scratches if you sand against the grain.
I'll ignore the stupid comment as I've forgotten more about timber finishing than you'll ever know.
Way to go Bonzo the wood lathe French polisher who calls himself certified:) Maybe try putting a vid of you making a drum and being a "keen" drummer instead of watchn peoples vids and bashing them. Glad you are not a woodworking teacher, you might beat your students for sanding the wrong direction:)
Bryan 212 let me know your email address and I'll send you a copy of my trade certificate.
Why do you get so upset at advice from others?
I thought you'd be keen for any tips from people with tones more experience than yourself. How else do we learn in life?
Please let me know a way I can send you photos of my drums, oh and my trade certificate.
Well, your first response sure did not sound like constructive advice when you're telling me that it hurt to watch and you heard the wood crying.
awful music
Good job but cannot to see your video due to excess of shitty videoeffects and transitions. Pissed me off! Too much effects!