We Had TRESPASSERS At The Old Station

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  • @simplysim0n
    @simplysim0n 6 місяців тому +58

    Hi, I own an old railway property too. And luckily have the original deeds from 1897, luckily, as land registry sometimes do not have the complete information. And in those deeds it mentions that the railway company does have and will have access to my land if required for various reasons. There has been no station here since 1927 but if they so wish they can enter to cut the trees on the sliver of land left behind my property, where the station used to be. This is not mentioned on the present modern deeds. I have had them legally checked and even though the original railway company is no longer in existence, network rail holds the rights to do so. On the plus side, when the present owner of the office unit next door tried to block off the end of the private road, out come said deeds as it mentions I have right of access at all times around the original station entrance. So maybe worth seeing if you can find the historical documents. Kew in London is a good place to start at the public records office.
    Carry on the good work

    • @theoldstationrenovation
      @theoldstationrenovation  6 місяців тому +5

      Wow that’s amazing, we have nothing like that with ours, thanks so much for sharing 😁

    • @maureentaphouse5206
      @maureentaphouse5206 6 місяців тому +8

      And this is why sales involving railway deeds can be a nightmare. They usually have restrictions and rights of easement in them all geared towards the railway companies benefit. I suspect that the Old Station has deeds containing them. As I've said elsewhere they need to go back to their purchase solicitor and confirm the exact legal position BEFORE they can talk to any third party who carried out the work. Once a condition appears in deeds it is there for ever regardless as to what happens to the land further down the line.

    • @romad275
      @romad275 6 місяців тому +4

      @@maureentaphouse5206 But don't later deeds supersede earlier ones? If not, someone could bring in a deed issued to one of their ancestors in the 1800s and possibly evict the current "owners" whose deed is from 2002.

    • @lemonladyYT
      @lemonladyYT 6 місяців тому +5

      ​@@theoldstationrenovation Hi guys. Thank you for amending the video title. Hope you're doing OK and not thinking of giving up on YT from one blip. You've been doing fantastic sharing your journey with us and few realise just how tough a job this is. ❤

    • @theoldstationrenovation
      @theoldstationrenovation  6 місяців тому +4

      Absolutely not, we’re so grateful that people have been following and enjoying what we’re doing……even if we’re not always doing it that well! 😊

  • @trampertravels
    @trampertravels 6 місяців тому +89

    Ah, the old land ownership problem - just because you own a piece of land does not mean that you are exempt from Statutory Authorities coming onto your land to carry out work and they do not need your permission. I would have checked whether or not the bridge was yours in total or that you owned land adjacent and under the structure. Frankly I think you should be glad that the bridge is not your responsibility because the maintenance costs can be horrendous. As to the removal of the trees you have to remember that a silver birch has a wide canopy and the roots extend beyond the diameter of that canopy. Be thankful that you have no oak trees near the bridge otherwise they would have been removed.
    Additionally, I would check with your local County Council to see if there are any Statutory Footpaths that have access through your land - just because no one has walked it does not mean that there is not one. In that event you would be required to maintain the footpath.

    • @ninaj8991
      @ninaj8991 18 днів тому +1

      Surely to council should have informed them that work was going to take place ?

  • @Bunter.948
    @Bunter.948 6 місяців тому +18

    You must realise by now what so many have said already - this isn't vandalism, this is carefully implemented maintenance by an authorised body. It would be sensible to seek them out and start a conversation. Great series. Thanks. Simon T

  • @davidlloyd1526
    @davidlloyd1526 6 місяців тому +82

    Almost certainly wouldn't be classified as trespassing if it's maintenance for the bridge. You may actually be required to keep this area cleared yourself if you move in (or be held liable for damage your plants cause the bridge).

    • @hazelmarybull9847
      @hazelmarybull9847 6 місяців тому +9

      I can empathise with your initial feelings of offence. Statutory authorities seem devoid of common courtesy. What would it have cost them to run a few checks first? If they had liased with you first how different this week's bulletin would have been. Have you checked your Deeds to see if there is an Easement on your land? Even if there is, what would have been wrong with a little bit of well-placed courtesy towards you who mean nothing but good towards the Old Station?

  • @susanthompson569
    @susanthompson569 6 місяців тому +130

    I'm surprised you didn't hear them clearing....

    • @heinzinoheinzino4352
      @heinzinoheinzino4352 6 місяців тому +10

      That’s exactly what I’m asking myself. How can it be that you didn’t hear any work Iike that being done? Strange.

    • @timothyokane9710
      @timothyokane9710 6 місяців тому +3

      @@heinzinoheinzino4352 They probably used Electric Battery saws, and hedge trimmers as they are quiet compared to gas powered equipment.

    • @apb3251
      @apb3251 6 місяців тому +3

      @@timothyokane9710you list items that still make noises above 60db plus the felling of a tree or shrubs is not silent

    • @maxtheSax8
      @maxtheSax8 6 місяців тому +11

      I hope we're not going down the route of tacky click bait 🤮..the unsubscribe button awaits .

  • @garnetmountain5163
    @garnetmountain5163 6 місяців тому +104

    Only mystery is who to send the thank you card to.

    • @185LANDY
      @185LANDY 6 місяців тому +2

      or the bill

  • @geolyn
    @geolyn 6 місяців тому +76

    Local authority probably. The foliage was likely too near the bridge - the tree may have been overhanging.

    • @lemonladyYT
      @lemonladyYT 6 місяців тому +10

      I don't believe the tree was overhanging, from the footage shown. Regardless, contractors only had the right to trim back any overhanging branches. Not climb the fence and trespass.
      Any need to remove a tree perhaps thought to be a risk of roots undermining the bridge should have been discussed with the landowners.

    • @Loliolla
      @Loliolla 6 місяців тому +2

      ⁠@@lemonladyYTmunicipalities and rail way companies often have right of way on land adjacent to bridges and roads. If that is the case, no permission or discussion is required. Luckily, shrubbery and trees grow back.

    • @JennyWard-h7e
      @JennyWard-h7e 6 місяців тому +1

      Tree roots could cause damage to the bridge so the clearing would have been required. Have you checked on the other side of the bridge?

  • @janinevalido
    @janinevalido 6 місяців тому +113

    I don’t see it as vandalism. Whoever did it did you a favor. I think it looks a lot better and less work for you to do. Plus it was free.

    • @theoldstationrenovation
      @theoldstationrenovation  6 місяців тому +38

      You’re right about the side of the bridge, looks much better. Just feels a bit of a liberty to do it unannounced and to have it down a large section of our boundary bushes to get access. If they’d told us they could have come down the drive and been given a cup of tea!

    • @saintetienne755
      @saintetienne755 6 місяців тому +11

      @@theoldstationrenovation how did you not hear them ??

    • @ericfg806
      @ericfg806 6 місяців тому +15

      >"Whoever did it did you a favor." Right! I'd be sending a thank-you card, some flowers and a bottle or two of wine to whatever entity that did this. The implication of vandalism is preposterous and that of tresspassing is only slightly less so. To The Old Station folks: get in touch with the authority who did this and have a nce polite talk about who's responsible for what around that area. I'd recommend keeping any attitude in check, at least for the time being.

    • @patriciakeogh5008
      @patriciakeogh5008 6 місяців тому +8

      Why are you calling it vandalism 🤷‍♀️ you know who it probably is , why the dramatic thumbnail? Also how come you didn’t hear them ? I won’t be back

    • @castleladpaza76
      @castleladpaza76 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@patriciakeogh5008 really not everyone knows the terms and conditions of highway maintenance unless you are looking for it. OK the thumbnail was a bit ott. Most people who own land on properties with bridges and towpaths wouldn't think of looking at the laws of highway & Bridge maintenance.

  • @jassconrad
    @jassconrad 6 місяців тому +136

    Somebody was making room to inspect that bridge and make sure it was safe and didn't need any work

    • @deineadam2240
      @deineadam2240 6 місяців тому +5

      They could have said something to the owner.

    • @apb3251
      @apb3251 6 місяців тому +4

      @@deineadam2240the owner doesn’t own the land there will be an unclaimed strip between the bridge and the station

    • @marty1610
      @marty1610 6 місяців тому +9

      Yes the council will have access to the bridge regardless of boundaries for the safety of road users

    • @deineadam2240
      @deineadam2240 6 місяців тому +1

      @@apb3251she said she does. Right to the bridge.

    • @apb3251
      @apb3251 6 місяців тому +3

      @@deineadam2240 she might say that but it’s not true or the reality. Anything that has a right to access is subject to rules that allow for maintenance. If she has an issue with it, she can attempt to purchase the bridge for the highways agency and she how far she gets. Same if you have a right of access for ramblers, a railway bridge, aqueduct or canal. It ain’t yours and if you damage it, say hello to your cell mate

  • @Klmnop2380
    @Klmnop2380 6 місяців тому +92

    If you don't own the bridge, the entity that does has cleared growth away from it to protect the structure.

    • @lemonladyYT
      @lemonladyYT 6 місяців тому +6

      Trespassing in order to do so.

    • @jphanks
      @jphanks 6 місяців тому +13

      ​@@lemonladyYT not trespassing. Public works like bridges come with easement access.

    • @lemonladyYT
      @lemonladyYT 6 місяців тому +7

      @@jphanks Still have a responsibility to notify the landowner of an intention to cross the property boundary.

    • @MarshaJanetzki
      @MarshaJanetzki 6 місяців тому +2

      I agree with both here. I don’t think it’s vandles, it’s a maintenance crew. If the object was to protect the bridge then accessing the land beside it makes sense. Still they should have contacted you first. Maybe it’s a heritage entity.
      I would also do some research on the tree they cut down. Maybe its root structure is larger than you think and the roots would endanger the bridge’s integrity making it necessary to go.

    • @WorksOnMyComputer
      @WorksOnMyComputer 6 місяців тому +2

      @@lemonladyYT Not neccessarly. It woiuld depend on the bylaws and the terms around the purchase of the land. The council or agency responsible for the bridge just can't stop everything in the world, because some people expect a phone call every time something needs doing. Clearly there is an easement in place around the bridge. All the owner needs to do is find out what the easement conditions are and remember to wave and perhaps offer the workers a cuppa next time they are on site. Its a lot of drama about nothing and thats made obvious in they didn't even know it had been done until they were out there trying to tame some of the undergrowth themselves.

  • @flybywire5866
    @flybywire5866 6 місяців тому +157

    This wasn't vandalism. This looks like a planned maintenance job. Maybe whoever did this job didn't know the property has new owners.

    • @lemonladyYT
      @lemonladyYT 6 місяців тому +16

      Regardless, the property has always had owners who should have been notified.

    • @k8zhd
      @k8zhd 6 місяців тому +11

      That would be my interpretation too -- perhaps a contractor with an over-enthusiastic idea of what needed to be done. "Never attribute to malice what might reasonably explained by incompetence," particularly when dealing with a government bureaucracy.

    • @flybywire5866
      @flybywire5866 6 місяців тому +4

      @@lemonladyYT There was surely miscommunication involved. I don't know for how long it was not inhabited, but it looks like it was decades. Maybe someone had his/hers whole work life only one information - it's abandoned, no one to notify.

    • @lemonladyYT
      @lemonladyYT 6 місяців тому +8

      @@flybywire5866 It was not abandoned, just not lived in. The owner's details are held on the Land Registry.

    • @buffplums
      @buffplums 6 місяців тому +11

      2:03 That bridge number plate is definatly an old one… would be nice to clean up, repaint and leave it in situ… have a look on the opposite side, there maybe one there too.

  • @bigcoffee2291
    @bigcoffee2291 6 місяців тому +52

    they did you all a massive favor.

  • @brendariley8982
    @brendariley8982 6 місяців тому +37

    This clearing was a huge job. Honestly it looks better. But, as you don't own the bridge, or the road above you may not have a say in how it's trimmed and cleared. This looks like a professional job. This is NOT vandalizing at all, it's just simple clean up and clearing. This "is" a legit job and it looks so much better. I would be grateful for the help.

  • @FrinkyBaby
    @FrinkyBaby 6 місяців тому +306

    Clearly the work of municipal authorities, not vandals. 🙄

    • @charlesyoung7436
      @charlesyoung7436 6 місяців тому +34

      Is it possible that the road right of way extends beyond the bridge itself? Check with the local government at the county seat.

    • @Falney
      @Falney 6 місяців тому +25

      I was going to say to check with the council. It would have been done to keep the road way and bridge clear for maintenance.
      Don't be an arse about it though because they may charge you for the work xD

    • @mlaiuppa
      @mlaiuppa 6 місяців тому +17

      Usually they give property owners notice when they do this kind of work.

    • @jskidpatrol
      @jskidpatrol 6 місяців тому +22

      Looks like the city did you a favor

    • @superilu
      @superilu 6 місяців тому +2

      yeah, some authorities need some heavy yelling at them...

  • @rvdcullen
    @rvdcullen 6 місяців тому +72

    Do you have a bridge authority that handles maintenance on their roads or something? This looks exactly like they do in the US to keep overgrowth from destroying the bridges, power lines, etc. We have "right of ways" here, not sure what you guys may have, but that protects the bridge authority in what they do to clear things out that are on someone's property.

    • @cathymorrison22
      @cathymorrison22 6 місяців тому +14

      I was going to say the same thing. It just looks like a county maintenance job. I do think they could've notified you they were going to come onto your property though. I think it looks good and they saved you from having to clear out!

    • @KateriBurnett
      @KateriBurnett 6 місяців тому +9

      I do agree, the roots from a tree can damage a bridge. Roots can damage plumbing lines or drainage to homes.

  • @rosehughes599
    @rosehughes599 6 місяців тому +56

    The tree you're concerned about may have been 6 foot from the bridge but the roots are what causes the damage

  • @leannestengert4829
    @leannestengert4829 6 місяців тому +8

    It looks so much better cleaned up, they did a great job.

  • @davidwoods7720
    @davidwoods7720 6 місяців тому +108

    I cannot understand how you can use the word "vandals". Surely common sense tells you that this was done by the council or similar body?

    • @Camera-Lego-Bird-Feeder
      @Camera-Lego-Bird-Feeder 6 місяців тому +20

      If you had a UA-cam channels that runs off views, you’d be banging that clickbait in also. Happens on every UA-cam clip

    • @davidwoods7720
      @davidwoods7720 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Camera-Lego-Bird-Feeder It has nothing to do with click bait lol

    • @Camera-Lego-Bird-Feeder
      @Camera-Lego-Bird-Feeder 6 місяців тому +8

      @@davidwoods7720 not sure you know how clickbait works. Look at the thumbnail and title. If it was just a picture of a bridge with the title “standard council foliage maintenance” that wouldn’t entice people to watch it, people love a bit of drama c’mon ! Even a “trimming bush” title would get a few more views now wouldn’t it David ?

    • @lemonladyYT
      @lemonladyYT 6 місяців тому +5

      ​@Camera-Lego-Bird-Feeder But a less clickbaity title would still have regulars watching out of interest. "Who cut down a tree in the bridge garden without our permission?" (Wordy, but you get the idea.)

    • @Camera-Lego-Bird-Feeder
      @Camera-Lego-Bird-Feeder 6 місяців тому +3

      @@lemonladyYT true, but if only your regular viewers watch you don’t grow as a channel, it’s the passing traffic scrollers you need to catch the eye of, the clickbait title and thumbnail drags people
      In from suggestions on their feed

  • @johnavery15
    @johnavery15 6 місяців тому +61

    The Historical Railways Estate (HRE) is a forms of over 3,100 structures-predominantly bridges, viaducts, tunnels and other works-associated with former railways in the United Kingdom. The structures are owned by the Department for Transport (DfT) and managed by National Highways (NH).

    • @alanmorris9425
      @alanmorris9425 6 місяців тому +5

      Yes, and in all probability, National Highways has access to private property much in the way that Network Rail has access to private property to maintain structures associated with the live railway. Various parliamentary acts going back to the 1840s assert Network Rail's rights

    • @grahamtaylor6317
      @grahamtaylor6317 6 місяців тому +1

      That’s the fellas. Use to be called the ‘Burdensome Estate’, which I thought was a fantastic name!😊

    • @ThePhilcam
      @ThePhilcam 6 місяців тому +5

      Haha with a click bait title you deserve a bill for the work they have done 😂😂
      Nothing else to film this week?

    • @WorksOnMyComputer
      @WorksOnMyComputer 6 місяців тому +4

      So you are saying the vandals are an organised gang who roam all of the UK terrorising land owners. :)

  • @apierc1
    @apierc1 6 місяців тому +48

    There might be a covenant or bylaw that the landowner must keep the area around the bridge clear or that the council have legal access to keep the area clear.

    • @lemonladyYT
      @lemonladyYT 6 місяців тому +7

      The most sensible comment so far. Property deeds need checking and a call to the Council for a polite discussion.

  • @ravenseft
    @ravenseft 6 місяців тому +45

    The highways authority is empowered by law (Sections 289 and 291 of the Highways Act 1980) to enter private land for the purposes of survey and maintaining bridges. You should now check with them to see if they have plans to infill the space under the bridge as they have been doing, quite controversially, across the country.

    • @lemonladyYT
      @lemonladyYT 6 місяців тому +1

      They also have a responsibility to notify the landowner of any intention to cross the property boundary.

    • @WorksOnMyComputer
      @WorksOnMyComputer 6 місяців тому +6

      @@lemonladyYT So in your world the rail services to Edinburgh for example could be suspended because the rail authorities cant find Mrs Brown, who has a bridge for the national rail network over her property and they cant raise her on the phone to let her know they are popping over to use the gate on her property to access and perform critical bridge maintenance after the recent rains. Ok.

    • @petat13
      @petat13 6 місяців тому +5

      @@WorksOnMyComputer don’t be silly. Thats not what she meant. Move along.

  • @bigbadboodah
    @bigbadboodah 6 місяців тому +45

    They did a nice job clearing the area around the bridge.

  • @DJWerkz
    @DJWerkz 6 місяців тому +24

    Be glad you didn’t receive a notice asking you to cut down the trees that could be seen as a risk to the bridge and road users. Tree surgery can get expensive real quick. It’s also likely that while the trees are within your property boundary they could also lie within an easement area where the authorities have jurisdiction to manage as they see fit.

  • @davidturner7101
    @davidturner7101 6 місяців тому +37

    It looks like Network Rail has been clearing up the bridge, because they are the people who maintain rail bridges throughout the country.
    The only thing I’m a bit concerned is you didn’t see or hear anything.
    If I were you I would give Network Rail a call just to check and see and if there is a clause in your contract about the bridge?
    Keep up the good work looking forward to seeing your progress on the old station renovations.

    • @terry987654
      @terry987654 6 місяців тому +3

      Won't be network rail as it hasn't been a railway for decades it will be the council clearing vegetation so they can inspect or carryout work on the bridge.

    • @miav785
      @miav785 6 місяців тому +5

      This would have been very loud and taken several hours. So it is concerning no one heard it. And tree roots do all of the damage and are hidden so you don't always see how big they are

  • @CasbahD
    @CasbahD 6 місяців тому +58

    Vandals or not, it looks 100% better.

  • @timothyclarke7689
    @timothyclarke7689 6 місяців тому +8

    Your visitors are National Highways, who took over responsibilty for railway structures in September 2013. Their actions have been the subject of much debate and legal action over the past few years. They have reasonable rights of access to their property, but like everone else, they require planning permission to undertake any structural work. Check your property deeds cand boundaries carefully. It would seem your neighbour has erected a fence outside the bridge span. I dont think that any previous owner of the station would have been reckless enough to accept ownership or responsibilty for the bridge structure. This would include the space under it.
    To avoid further vandalism, you could speak to your local tree preservation officer for advice. You may consider applying for protection orders for certain trees, after which the National Higways would need to seek planning permission to cut down or even prune branches.

  • @johndonlon1611
    @johndonlon1611 6 місяців тому +6

    While you DO own the property, there is a government entity that oversees easement rights around roadways, bridges, rail lines, public utlility lines, etc. The crews were only doing their job and most likely were chastised by superiors for NOT doing it earlier. If anything they did you a favor by clearing that land so you have easier access to it so be careful what you wish for. Plus, they did a good job. You need to learn and understand what went on and also post your property perimeter with "Private Property" and "No Trespassing" signage to disuade actual trespassers and snoopers. BTW: That's the kind of work a good brush hog mower does.

  • @TheAngry-AmericanGuy
    @TheAngry-AmericanGuy 18 днів тому +2

    It looks waaay better guys, I would see it as a blessing....if it were here, the city maintains any over-grown areas

  • @gailconway5037
    @gailconway5037 6 місяців тому +75

    Don’t think vandals would do this 😮

    • @ericalbany
      @ericalbany 6 місяців тому +5

      Very NEAT vandals, if they did...

  • @garyphillips7993
    @garyphillips7993 6 місяців тому +36

    Potentially cleared ready for a bridge inspection.

    • @SiAnon
      @SiAnon 6 місяців тому +4

      Looks to be exactly that. Too tidy for tree thieves.

  • @richardhaywood4123
    @richardhaywood4123 6 місяців тому +23

    The bridge is probably still owned and maintained by the railway or highways agency and they were doing inspection/maintenance to it.

    • @lemonladyYT
      @lemonladyYT 6 місяців тому +1

      I'll have to find my question re bridge ownership from an earlier video. I believe the response was 50/50 landowners either side, which would mean Highways/Council are only responsiblefor the road surface over the bridge and the verges and any overhanging foliage. Maybe the deeds need checking.

    • @WorksOnMyComputer
      @WorksOnMyComputer 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@lemonladyYT Council cant just maintain the roadway and ignore the infrastructure supporting it. Are you arguing the land owners must maintain the bridge to code? The bridge is clearly still in use as a public access way.

    • @185LANDY
      @185LANDY 6 місяців тому

      if it was the highways agency they would of cot down the foliage coming to and from the bridge

    • @lemonladyYT
      @lemonladyYT 6 місяців тому

      @@WorksOnMyComputer I'm not arguing anything, just recounting the response to a question I posed several months ago.

    • @lemonladyYT
      @lemonladyYT 6 місяців тому

      @@185LANDY Not necessarily.

  • @USFox9390
    @USFox9390 6 місяців тому +55

    Not vandals if this is a public road. This is bridge maintenance. They do this here in the US. It looks really nice and less work for you.

  • @janwalke3666
    @janwalke3666 Місяць тому +2

    Reading through the comments I understand this may be due to preservation of the bridge. Whoever did the clearance must know that the station is no longer abandoned/unoccupied and has new ownership (there could be a few ‘clues’ lying around) If they don’t then from now it’s only polite to communicate with you guys

  • @PS-xi5rm
    @PS-xi5rm 6 місяців тому +10

    If it were here in the U.S., I would say the county roads department was clearing their right of way around the road and bridge. The bridge is part of the road, not part of the old railway line. Good luck getting your answers!😊

  • @delwyngraham4033
    @delwyngraham4033 6 місяців тому

    Looks great all cleared😊 now you can see the beautiful bridge

  • @bob-t7u6n
    @bob-t7u6n 6 місяців тому +3

    wow definitely an improvement I am sure it's for bridge inspection

    • @theoldstationrenovation
      @theoldstationrenovation  6 місяців тому

      Definitely an improvement, our issue is that to get access they’ve cut away a large chunk of the bushes that protect the boundary. If they’d contacted us first we’d have let them come down the drive and made them a cup of tea!

  • @LJones-n8c
    @LJones-n8c 6 місяців тому +1

    We haven't heard from you for a while. I'm sure you are very busy I hope you didn't have any more vandalism or theft.❤🙏🏻

  • @trainspotting3399
    @trainspotting3399 6 місяців тому +6

    When I saw the title I expected the worst. Thank God it was only the local council or RR doing what they do and doing first and asking questions later. Love watching the progress you are making. Love from the USA.

  • @martinford419
    @martinford419 6 місяців тому +1

    Be thankful someone cleaned it up for you ,

  • @ernestestrada2461
    @ernestestrada2461 6 місяців тому +5

    The trees that are 6 ft away The roots could undermine the bridge footings. So I believe the local municipal maintenance crew has the obligation to protect the bridge and may have an easement access to do exactly that.

  • @PaulWilliams-h1y
    @PaulWilliams-h1y 5 днів тому +1

    I know of a location on the Gloucestershire & Warwickshire steam Railway, a preserved steam and diesel railway, where they have purchased the line in its entirity. they have a tunnel at the southernmost end of the line, and a bridge at the northernmost end of the line where there is no trackwork but they have to maintain both. the GWsR is a caring railway and would if private properties adjacent were affected, liase with their owners. However, it would still fall to the railway company to do maintenance, even if the residents did not want ti done. This is to protect other users, i.e. motorists, walkers and many others from harm from negligence. But, if you want to confirm who did the work, you could send a letter, (signed for,(and keep a copy), to the Railtrack office in your area. (Can probably be found on any search engine) and inform them of your tenure and would they please inform you of all future work.
    Regards, Paul.

  • @TheLovelyRebecca
    @TheLovelyRebecca 6 місяців тому +9

    I would send them a “thank you” note. The clearing up of the bushes and brambles makes the bridge look so much better. I love the pathways on both sides of the bridge.

  • @teresajames5993
    @teresajames5993 6 місяців тому +2

    I think they did a marvellous job of clearing overgrowth away from the brickwork! In the previous photos it was a mess of overgrowth and just in the municipals work crews in clean up. Nothing has been done to invade your privacy. I think they have done a brilliant job and it should never have been left for so long. Good work from the municipality.

  • @NailahRoberts
    @NailahRoberts 6 місяців тому +28

    Highway maintenance team, specifically bridge maintenance team as they have only cleared that area and haven't continued along the road.

  • @hello15848
    @hello15848 6 місяців тому +2

    I think the railroad landscaper probably thought he was being kind and helping out seeing that you're remodeling and sprucing up the property. He probably thinks it's an overwhelming task and he was helping out.

  • @DomingoDeSantaClara
    @DomingoDeSantaClara 6 місяців тому +9

    I believe it's National Highways that are responsible for maintaining all the bridges, i imagine they have access alongside to keep it clear of trees so that roots can't get into the foundations. Might be worth calling them to clarify the situation.

  • @georgewilliamtussler5475
    @georgewilliamtussler5475 6 місяців тому

    G'day from Australia 🇦🇺 ❤ I truly do agree with most of the comments here about the clearing of the railway bridge. It does look better 😊.. it wasn't vandals... maintenance checks on structures. I understand your concerns about it, it's your property 😊😊 can't wait for next video...❤😊😊

  • @deborah-cd7wp
    @deborah-cd7wp 6 місяців тому +5

    Huge improvement if you ask me.

  • @paulcalhoun6339
    @paulcalhoun6339 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi, if you can find these Vandals, I have a piece of property in Florida where the fence line needs clearing. I see the vandals did qualify work and cleanup.

  • @kennethcrace6181
    @kennethcrace6181 6 місяців тому +34

    Looks great to me.

  • @simonlumsden6045
    @simonlumsden6045 6 місяців тому +1

    You should thank the local council for doing a great clean up job.

  • @sodor_dan-da-man
    @sodor_dan-da-man 6 місяців тому +19

    Agreed that is would be the local council. And depending on the council and their policy etc they may have it worded that in instances where they are required to maintain accessible roads and maintenance they have an obligation to not necessarily inform the land owners of essential works and have assured access regardless in the completion and compliance of said maintenance. So although technically trespass, they have rights of access.

    • @lemonladyYT
      @lemonladyYT 6 місяців тому +1

      They still have a legal responsibility to notify the landowner of intent to access and of the works being planned.

    • @sodor_dan-da-man
      @sodor_dan-da-man 6 місяців тому

      @@lemonladyYT not all the time especially if it's in respect of maintaining a public road. In my experience they have an invisible line of up to 10ft around the structure where they don't need to inform the landlord. Especially with smaller hand held powered tools. If they need access with a digger or tractor then it would be different

  • @juliemccann6157
    @juliemccann6157 6 місяців тому

    Council usually owns a couple of metres from any public path or road so it is definitely maintenance. I would be happy that council is looking after that lovely old bridge, it is a beauty. We're you going to leave all the messy long grass and plants along the bridge?
    I would be finding them and offering them some money to help you quickly with the rest so you can enjoy that beautiful garden. Can't wait to see your end result of the station, it is going to be an awesome family home.

  • @seancoleman8528
    @seancoleman8528 6 місяців тому +3

    I agree with the majority of people who are saying this has improved the bridge , think you have better things to worry about

  • @cyhomer
    @cyhomer 12 днів тому +1

    I do agree that the job could have been a bit more judicious in what and how they did it. They are obviously NOT landscapers or gardeners and they just chop away with no regard for what someone may want to keep, unfortunately. I understand why you are upset…I would have been also, because I would have rather done it myself..a bit neater lets say….🙄..mybe if you continue to maintain it, when the next inspections comes around, they may be less destructive…🤞🏼

  • @ianmac-uk
    @ianmac-uk 6 місяців тому +3

    Old railway bridges and other structures used to be maintained by the British Railway Board, this eventually became the Historical Railway Estate National Highways. That is clearly not vandalism .

  • @Wheel_Horse
    @Wheel_Horse 6 місяців тому +35

    I'm with the others who have stated that it's not vandalism, rather some 'entity' such as the municipal owners of the bridge maintaining their property and the easement around it. If it were vandalism, where's the spray painted graffiti?

  • @cazzawazza9553
    @cazzawazza9553 6 місяців тому +17

    Vandals wouldn't hav done that.if it was the council it probably to make sure the bridge wont get damaged. Definitely not vandals or everyone would want wandals like that lol.looks better now to me

  • @davidwoodall7272
    @davidwoodall7272 6 місяців тому

    Looks a lot better, saved you a lot of time and effort, probably railway workers you'll probably find they have legal access to that strip of land either side of railway corridor for general maintenance.

  • @AbigailGerlach-zt1sh
    @AbigailGerlach-zt1sh 6 місяців тому +5

    This looks like what our city does for fire abatement. Every year, the city
    comes along and cuts down trees near the road, cuts wild grasses, and clears anything which becomes a fire break for emergency services to access properties in case of fire. You probably need to contact your municipal government and let them know that the property is no longer abandoned and they should contact you if further future abatement is required. They'll probably ignore you, but you can only try. There is usually a department that takes care of "municipal works" and you were probably on a list somewhere as unoccupied land. We all know government departments never talk to each other, so they've no idea you own the land.

  • @tonybarfield5148
    @tonybarfield5148 5 місяців тому +1

    Love you interesting channel o the renovation of your old railway station. Suspect the work done around the bridge has been done by contractors working for the local County Council, acting has the highways authority. You may want to put a complaint into your local authority and ask them why they didn't alert your about the work going on. I suggest you find out who also owns the former railway cutting and where you property starts. Look forward to see how you get on with the railway station. Love you dogs.

  • @stewartmcardle8149
    @stewartmcardle8149 6 місяців тому +45

    Local authority highways team very probably. However, they've transgressed on to your property. Check with them first. If it is, you'd be entitled to compensation, though that's of little consolation at present. You need to signpost the land as Private Property.

    • @davidlloyd1526
      @davidlloyd1526 6 місяців тому +4

      More likely, the council will bill them for the work (assuming that there is a rule about keeping the bridge clear).

    • @castleladpaza76
      @castleladpaza76 6 місяців тому +4

      The highways have the right to clear upto 7ft clearance on bridges and towpaths its not illegal now they know for future maintenance.

    • @synicyst9925
      @synicyst9925 6 місяців тому +2

      I bet there is am implied easement

    • @mlteyt
      @mlteyt 6 місяців тому +3

      If the bridge is a listen monument, they have the right to enter private property to maintain it and, in theory, bill the property owners.

  • @MrKnowwun
    @MrKnowwun 6 місяців тому

    The tree may be 6 feet away from the bridge, but its roots would start to undermine the structure. Looks like a job well done to me, and has saved you a lot of future agro.

  • @JR-el7et
    @JR-el7et 6 місяців тому +85

    You should be happy, they've done you a favour clearing the bridge. Please don't spoil this series by becoming complainers.

    • @mentalneil
      @mentalneil 6 місяців тому +5

      They didn't want the trees cutting down

    • @lynnbee9384
      @lynnbee9384 6 місяців тому +13

      They aren’t “complainers” they have a right to be angry. Those trees were on their land. If you take a tree down on municipal land you will face consequences, so same should apply to land owners.

    • @inherentmirth5180
      @inherentmirth5180 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@lynnbee9384clearly you don't know how municipalities and right-of-way work

  • @georgecroft3445
    @georgecroft3445 6 місяців тому

    Congratulations, you've had the council clearing up around the bridge, this will benefit you as any maintenance work on the bridge can now be carried out safely, I don't think you should be complaining, just accept it for what it is, kind regards George

  • @Neverforget1967
    @Neverforget1967 6 місяців тому +29

    Quite obviously not Vandals

  • @8052royc
    @8052royc 7 днів тому +1

    Look on the bright side, it saved you doing it LOL
    Probably done to stop tree roots damaging the bridge.

  • @susanshanks2407
    @susanshanks2407 6 місяців тому +37

    If this was vandalized, they would have spray painted the bridge not cleaned it up.

  • @flowerfairy1950
    @flowerfairy1950 3 дні тому +1

    Was there any follow up on this?

  • @Carverdude6
    @Carverdude6 6 місяців тому +1

    They actually helped you out really. Saves you lots of work to.

    • @theoldstationrenovation
      @theoldstationrenovation  6 місяців тому

      I’m perfectly happy with them clearing the sides of the bridge (it looks much better) I’m just gutted that they cut away about 10 feet of boundary hedge to get access. If they’d asked they could have come in down the drive and left the hedge untouched!

  • @wizard4121
    @wizard4121 6 місяців тому +50

    Really? Vandals did yard work??🙄🙄 what a clickbait title. There’s surely no way you think that. Clearly this was the work of road or railway maintenance. Probably something they do every few years. Just because a tree might be 6 feet away doesn’t mean its limbs will be. Not sure how it is there but where I live there are easements on each side of the road that “belong” to the government. However I do think they should have cleaned up after themselves

    • @ColinRichardson
      @ColinRichardson 6 місяців тому +4

      Technically, leaving the tree there, and allowing nature to break down the tree and reclaim it's chemicals IS the correct thing to do..
      But.. going onto someone's property to cut down a tree, even if it's for the "bridges safety" with no prior warning is just pure wrong.

    • @apb3251
      @apb3251 6 місяців тому

      @@ColinRichardson no, no it’s not. Otherwise every time a tree falls on a road it would have to be left to be cleared until landowner gives permission.

    • @ColinRichardson
      @ColinRichardson 6 місяців тому

      @@apb3251 Are you comparing a tree that has already fallen down due to wind, to a tree that was cut down by someone climbing a fence and taking a chainsaw to it?

    • @apb3251
      @apb3251 6 місяців тому

      @@ColinRichardson no it’s the same regardless the tree is risking danger to structure or life so it’s felled before the event. So either access and chop it before or when it’s fallen. You are incorrect about who can access land to do this. I have the same issue as I live next to a canal and the CRT can access my land to chop trees that pose a risk to the canal. Also no fence was climbed and the owner of the station does not own the bridge so she is also incorrect

    • @ColinRichardson
      @ColinRichardson 6 місяців тому

      @@apb3251 I didn't say they can't do it, I said it was just pure wrong. Thank you for informing me that people who cut down trees can magically fly though. That was news to me. I will have to buy tickets to see the next time they cut down a tree from over 20 feet away.

  • @karenteague8468
    @karenteague8468 6 місяців тому +2

    It looks amazeing.

  • @tperki2322
    @tperki2322 6 місяців тому +45

    Definitely your local highway dept doing maintenance. They probably have some kind of easement for this kind of thing.

  • @sweetsweetcandy3889
    @sweetsweetcandy3889 6 місяців тому +1

    Trying to save the bridge and looks so much better. Send them a thank you note.

  • @gymnoboi
    @gymnoboi 6 місяців тому +18

    They did you a bloody favor be thankful !

    • @helenbell6179
      @helenbell6179 6 місяців тому +2

      That's not the point. Someone accessed their land and cut down trees which belong to them without their permission. Also, it makes their land easier to access when they obviously wanted it to stay for security and privacy. How would you feel if someone chopped trees down in your garden without your permission.

  • @andypowell7983
    @andypowell7983 6 місяців тому +2

    😅Trees not cut down, but trimmed and cleared. Obviously maintenance been carried out!! 🤔🤔🤔🤔👍👍👍👍

  • @andreenadeau4078
    @andreenadeau4078 6 місяців тому +13

    I don’t think vandals, I actually like seeing the bridge all cleaned up, it shows all of its beauty.

    • @theoldstationrenovation
      @theoldstationrenovation  6 місяців тому +6

      I agree, the bridge is beautiful and we’re happy for it to be cleared. What we were aggrieved about is that they cut down a large chunk of our boundary to get access where if they told us we’d have given access down the drive (and given them a cup of tea).

  • @saywhatnow245
    @saywhatnow245 6 місяців тому

    There is probably a 6 foot easement allowing the council to carry out clearing & maintenance work. I suspect they went overboard knowing they won’t be back for years. Keep the videos coming. 👍

  • @raymondheckard234
    @raymondheckard234 6 місяців тому +3

    It is clearly the work of the local government, and if you check the area next to the bridge belongs to the Crown.
    My cousin who lives in Scotland his neighbor had the same problem on an old railway bridge over an abandoned track bed, and it was done for an inspection of the bridge. Trees growing close to the bridge can compromise the integrity of the bridge.
    While it is your property, the bridge foundation protrudes a couple of meters beyond the walls of the bridge and that area does not belong to you, but the Crown in the UK is what my cousins neighbor found out when he has around the bridge was cleared.
    If you look around you may find that other bridges in your are have had the same thing done around them too.
    I would check with the Wenvoe council, looking on google maps it looks like they clear around the bridge every few years.

  • @suzannadannaTARDIS
    @suzannadannaTARDIS 6 місяців тому

    I find it interesting that your side of the bridge was cleaned up, but a large portion of the other side looks untouched.

  • @maryvsshehan4808
    @maryvsshehan4808 6 місяців тому +3

    Did they clear the property the same way on the other side?

    • @theoldstationrenovation
      @theoldstationrenovation  6 місяців тому

      They did, although someone had been fly tipping on the other side and that’s been left where it is. I’ll have to get down there with a bin bag.

  • @McBuggs.
    @McBuggs. 6 місяців тому

    So sorry for this happening without any notice. It looks like someone didn't like the overgrown greenery that took over this area. There certainly is some questions to be answered from the township. Good luck getting it sorted out and learn about who maintains the property lines in the area.

  • @saintetienne755
    @saintetienne755 6 місяців тому +5

    4:28 "And where have you been Buddy?"
    'Protecting your innocence, now stay in your lane, I got places to be'

  • @junemartin1475
    @junemartin1475 6 місяців тому

    Looks like an easement was cleared. Looks better!

  • @terry987654
    @terry987654 6 місяців тому +7

    Definitely the council did it. It would have been to allow a periodic inspection of the bridge which they are required to do to make sure it is safe to use as the bushes etc would have been needed to get cleared so it could be inspected. The council should have sent you a letter but it is possible they didn't know it was part of your property.

  • @douglasburch2320
    @douglasburch2320 6 місяців тому

    In my humble opinion you may want to contact your local government and find out who is responsible for bridge maintenance, chances are that they are responsible. As always, thanks for taking us along.

  • @bryanirwin5473
    @bryanirwin5473 6 місяців тому +7

    I'd have to agree with Stewart that it's probably the local roads dept./authority. There is probably a small right-of-way immediately surrounding the bridge so that they can do maintenance and upkeep. Contact your local road authority and let them know the property is being upkept. Gil really needs a proper brush hog to get all that overgrowth taken care of.

  • @christiansorbie3220
    @christiansorbie3220 6 місяців тому +2

    I would check the Sale agreement and your property lines, maybe there is a clause in there that allows the council/train company to come and clear it if its over growing the bridge for structural reasons? Its worth checking just incase theres something missed when you bought the property! Good luck!

  • @siameseire
    @siameseire 6 місяців тому +3

    You are wonderful people working hard on your dream and I know that you were sad and Shocked and your emotions probably made you choose the word "vandals." Emotions can spill over in the moment and hours after a shock. (Everybody is having a bit of an emotional reaction to that word choice since hard working crews, who don't own gorgeous land, are not vandals.) All nature lovers feel pain when beauty is cropped but once you breathe and the shock eases, you will logically see that no one has maliciously harmed you or your land. This is your safe community and we are all sad for the blow you felt. All will be well and we shall all move onto happier events together. I hope that you and the city and/or railroad can develop a very good relationship so that you can be a team to protect the bridge with moderate regular plant maintenance. Once they see what responsible people you are, they will be relieved that you are the owners next to the bridge.

  • @essietangle9931
    @essietangle9931 6 місяців тому +2

    It is a good thing, you all have your hands full. I am sure they have clearance rules too.

  • @vlcourneyea
    @vlcourneyea 6 місяців тому +10

    You may get a bill from some authority for clearing out the trees if there is some bylaw that says you're responsible for keeping those areas clear.

  • @debkrummreich3883
    @debkrummreich3883 9 днів тому +1

    Plant trees that are hardy fast growing. Build higher or same height wall. Saw or read something about land rights, you may only own the top surface of land but not rest. I am encouraging you to find all documents ,deeds etc. make sure you own all land and soil rights. Also if building is historical the historical society may try to come in after start of renovations and may revaulate all plans to change due historic nature. Make sure all deeds documents etc. specify everything,not sure get help could save thosands of dollars. The property is gorgeous.where we lived before there was a walking path thru our little cul-de-sac the was gorgeous there many beautiful things to see great path . Just not thru group of peoples homes. Basically it was a shortcut. So the renters had to petition our land lord to get a fence up and no tresspassing. Ther 2 rentals with different landlord 2 landlords didn't care for oneanother it was battle between them . One early evening a unwelcomed person came up the path got a little 2close to children glad we where outside .That incedent chaned property owners minds. They built a very high privacy fence around the property and posted no trespassing. Since then no problems.

  • @kelvinhoughton7953
    @kelvinhoughton7953 6 місяців тому +12

    I believe that any bridge crossing a railway that the rail company are responsible for its maintenance however this is a closed line and it depends who actually owns the bridge itself. As others have sugested probably cleared to access for an inspection, bridge vandalism ie filling in with concrete underneith has happened a number of times with the work carried out by the Highways Agency for which they have been taken to court for in recent months for damaging historic structures. I would contact Highways Agency first , then local council then Network Rail however be cautious you don't end up with a big maintainance invoice. I think I saw an oval plaque this should have the bridge number on it although looks worn but they are usually cast numbers and I think one on each side

    • @theoldstationrenovation
      @theoldstationrenovation  6 місяців тому +1

      Great advice, thanks very much 😊
      The oval plague seems to be bare, or at least have worn away. Shame.

    • @kelvinhoughton7953
      @kelvinhoughton7953 6 місяців тому

      @@theoldstationrenovation there may be one on the other side probably left as you face the station

  • @arlenemayer657
    @arlenemayer657 16 днів тому +2

    Maybe time to put up a few "No Trespassing" signs.

  • @linmurray436
    @linmurray436 6 місяців тому +5

    Don't know how it works in the UK but in the US the roads, bridges, power lines etc have easements that allow for maintenance and work to be done on such things. Check your real estate documents.

    • @maxnmilly
      @maxnmilly 6 місяців тому

      Same in the UK but usually give you notice of any impending, we have a 500,000 volt Pylon going across one of our fields and an hedge by a road and we had 6 months notice of that they were trimming the hedging 20 metres either side of the pylon cables as they had grown within 15 metres of the cables I said carry on they were very good as they had to close the road saved me a job with the tractor, which I did the other 200 metres when they did close the road.

  • @IcenI_Koi
    @IcenI_Koi 6 місяців тому

    Crown Estates or whoever owns the bridge most likely did that. Nice to hear the old boy Gil on camera, Laura.

  • @billlane7486
    @billlane7486 6 місяців тому +35

    Irritating as it is the who & why are almost certainly the people responsible for the bridge and a periodic inspection. Those inspections, on a low use bridge can be many years apart. Most of what has gone could well have grown between inspections. Normally you would expect the responsible authority to have notified the land owners, Network rail will even tell local residents that they are going to work on nearby embankments that are 100% railway land. It is possible that they didn't realise that the old station was more occupied and would like/need a notification. A couple of 'private property no trespassing' signs might help. Local authority responsible for the road and Network rail would seem good starting points.

    • @ianmac-uk
      @ianmac-uk 6 місяців тому +1

      That’s not correct

    • @apb3251
      @apb3251 6 місяців тому

      It’s not network rail, it’s highways agency

  • @robco6997
    @robco6997 6 місяців тому +1

    I would expect a public bridge to have some form of easement around it meaning the council would be well with their rights to clear under the bridge for both maintenance and inspection purposes. So worth investigating if the bridge does have an easement zone which does not fall within your ownership.

  • @EricHaggin
    @EricHaggin 4 місяці тому +5

    This sort of deceptive "clickbait" title will damage the trust of viewers. Obviously it was not trespassers or vandals

    • @baldinthesnow
      @baldinthesnow 15 днів тому

      Hopefully your videos are interesting enough not to have to resort to ridiculous "click bait" titles.

  • @lyndaharley8337
    @lyndaharley8337 6 місяців тому +2

    Thinking it looks a lot better.