Justice League 4:3 EXPLAINED!

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  • @dooplebop
    @dooplebop 3 роки тому +23

    Thank you for not making us sit through 3 minutes of an intro to get the information homie. that’s big time.

  • @isaaccampos8636
    @isaaccampos8636 3 роки тому +31

    TBH when you're watching the movie you barely even notice it. The way a lot of shots are framed take advantage of the ratio, making them look like comic book panels, specially in the case of Batman and Superman

    • @YourMovieFix
      @YourMovieFix  3 роки тому +3

      Correct. Not to mention it has been proven that pillar boxing (bars on side) is less offensive to the eyes over letter boxing (top and bottom). Since there isnt something in your line of sight that would hurt contrast.

    • @isaaccampos8636
      @isaaccampos8636 3 роки тому +2

      @@YourMovieFix Right, which is why some people get distracted when Nolan films go from fullscreen to normal cinemascope ratio

    • @sumisumi-by8xv
      @sumisumi-by8xv 3 роки тому +1

      Barely notice it????? Are you for real?????????

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 роки тому +1

      People need to stop making excuses about the stupid idea for 4:3

    • @Dreamcatcher9000
      @Dreamcatcher9000 2 роки тому

      @@bighands69 It depends on the movie. 1.33:1 (4:3) suits some films, especially indy films, or like Wes Anderson's films (like parts of "The Grand Budapest Hotel"), art films in general.
      I didn't mind the 4:3 of Justice League during the first half of it, because it was mainly dialogue scenes, not much action, but during the second half, where there's much more action, I did feel that it was narrowing the experience. Unfortunately though, I have a small TV, only 32 inches, but if I had a huge one, like 65 inches, yeah, it would be much better.
      But, having said that, I agree, blockbusters aren't for 1.33:1. That's why cinemascope was invented, for epic films like "The Robe" (the first cinemascope film) and "Ben-Hur". Snyder wanted to play it a bit artsy-fartsy, with non-serious excuses like: "Superheroes tend to be, as figures, they tend to be less horizontal. Maybe Superman when he’s flying, but when he’s standing, he’s more of a vertical." Like...dude, wtf? Every human being is more of a vertical when they're standing!
      It was an interesting experience for one time, but no, no reason for every blockbuster to be like that. A claustrophobic black and white art film like "The Lighthouse", yes, but not for big blockbusters.
      p.s.: Coincidentally, every modern film I mentioned in this comment ("The Grand Budapest Hotel", "Justice League", "The Lighthouse"), has Willem Dafoe in it. 1.33:1 suits him, as I see! :p

  • @RedVelvetUnderground333
    @RedVelvetUnderground333 3 роки тому +17

    Finally someone who knows what they’re talking about. There is no cropping this is the full image u see more

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 роки тому

      Unless you are watching it in a theatre the 4:3 ratio does not make any sense on widescreen tvs.

  • @smittyprime04
    @smittyprime04 3 роки тому +20

    Even thought we are seeing more I might be one of the few but I would still much rather have it be the landscaped aspect ratio

    • @Duvy159
      @Duvy159 3 роки тому +1

      U can just set it to do that on the tv I think

    • @ARBLACKx
      @ARBLACKx 3 роки тому +4

      @@Duvy159 if you do that you'l lose picture quality and heads will be cropped out nd stuff. I used me TV zoom function for the trailer and that occurred.

    • @Mistygio
      @Mistygio 3 роки тому

      I really hate the widescreen or full screen ratio honestly. I just don’t understand why people like these widescreen TVs. I applaud Zack for making this decision and I really hope 4:3 TVs become mainstream again. Widescreen just doesn’t make any sense as 35mm film prints are not widescreen. You’re just watching a cropped movie every time you see something in widescreen or full screen. It’s nonsensical

    • @smittyprime04
      @smittyprime04 3 роки тому +4

      @@Mistygio Why does it not make sense? Our peripheral vision works mostly from right to left. That is where our eyes scan. So why would it not make sense to make TV and screen that way. Things were filmed in the box aspect ratio because the technological advancements weren’t there yet. Not cause they wanted to. Technology wasn’t the same as it is today. And shots are usually placed so that you aren’t missing much. The aspect ratio bar give movies their cinematic feel compared to a video on UA-cam

    • @YourMovieFix
      @YourMovieFix  3 роки тому

      I think in a perfect world I too would have loved JL to be filmed with 2.40 in mind to have better visual continuity with MoS and BvS. But it wasn't. It was filmed with 1.33 and 1.66 in mind. Anything lesser and many shots would be compromised.

  • @leonardoyramm1856
    @leonardoyramm1856 3 роки тому +2

    Ooooh!!! So it's the full image. I didn't know. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
    🎥🎞️

  • @Coaltal45
    @Coaltal45 3 роки тому +5

    Felt like I was watching a really good Made-for-TV movie back in the 80s....And wishing they would have released it at the theater, so I could see the whole screen.

  • @ElidaeDanh
    @ElidaeDanh 3 роки тому +3

    iPad users have risen!

  • @gregwallace9035
    @gregwallace9035 3 роки тому +1

    This 4:3 version is not for me. The artistic intent is too self indulgent. Each to their own. When there are over a billion 16:9 tv's out there in the market and 99% will watch this movie on that, well, It reminds me of the old horse and cart with the poor old beast having blinkers on.

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому

      99% of all movies ever made aren't even 16:9 so.... Nearly any movie you watch will have some sort of black bars, if you're watching it at its correct aspect ratio.

  • @roberttrevino62800
    @roberttrevino62800 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks for the visual

  • @CameronKiesser
    @CameronKiesser 3 роки тому +8

    With my big ass 55 inch tv literally 4 feet away from me, Fullscreen doesn't bug me as much. However Widescreen(no bars) feels otherworldly as it's so huge.
    Also I guarantee you that a cropped Widescreen version will happen eventually.

    • @shiskeyoffles
      @shiskeyoffles 3 роки тому +1

      I'm doing it myself soon as it is released 😂

  • @daltonburdette4077
    @daltonburdette4077 3 роки тому +4

    Always a pleasure to see a notification for your channel. Keep carrying on 🤙

  • @SuperCer054Real
    @SuperCer054Real 3 роки тому +11

    When I started watching I was like man it's too small....towards the end I was fully immersed lol

  • @bobm7359
    @bobm7359 3 роки тому +4

    So does anyone have an Imax screen at home? I think not . Pretty dumb decision to use an old 4:3 ratio,when almost everyone will be watching this on a 16:9 . Hey Zack ! Next time record your movie on a hand cranked camera,in black and white , and in mono. Never mind Color , Scope and Dolby Atmos. Go retro completely why don't you :-) ?

  • @FinalConsensus
    @FinalConsensus 3 роки тому +3

    I'm gonna have to have you walk me through the difference between 1.33 and 1.43 IMAX 😆 it looked like the movie was somewhat cropped when Zack posted a photo of him watching Darkseid in an IMAX theatre

    • @YourMovieFix
      @YourMovieFix  3 роки тому +3

      The difference in 1.33 and 1.43 is very very minimal. Most IMAX theaters would play in 1.43 (like BvS imax sequences) but I'm not sure what JL would do since it's kind of a rarity. I imagine they would play the whole 1.33 since that same version is on HBO Max. It's worth noting his original intent for home release and and all normal theaters back in 2017 was 1.66. That was their framing in mind when making the movie.

    • @FinalConsensus
      @FinalConsensus 3 роки тому

      @@YourMovieFix Okay gotcha, I noticed on the BvS remaster it's 1.33 as well instead of just using the whole screen like Nolan's batmans for home video

  • @Lonystal
    @Lonystal 3 роки тому +1

    Well Zack, I know this would've looked great on an IMAX but nobody as an IMAX at home -.-

  • @Mistygio
    @Mistygio 3 роки тому +4

    It doesn’t make sense to have widescreen TVs even today in 2021. Every movie you watch is cropped just so it could be full screen on your tv. They really need to bring back 4:3 TVs. Or 1.33:1 TVs. I would really love to see a 12k IMAX television come out in the future. One that is at least 100” but made for the home of course. IMAX at home. But it needs to be 1.33:1 or 4:3 at least

    • @tonead3748
      @tonead3748 3 роки тому

      Naw my 77” just got killed by 4:3 I lost litteraly over a foot the cost of tvs to high for home theaters to be losing that much screen

    • @GoatsBit
      @GoatsBit 2 роки тому

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      👁️👃👁️ ❌ 👁️👃👁️ ✅
      👁️

  • @KryptonCaged
    @KryptonCaged 3 роки тому +1

    Prefect! 🔥👌🏼

  • @xb9dx598
    @xb9dx598 2 роки тому

    It makes it look like an old movie

  • @nickygwilson
    @nickygwilson 3 роки тому

    Man I just replaced my square TV for a wide-screen one.........20 years ago.... Is it really too much to ask to not have black bars anywhere on the screen?

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому

      Yes, it is too much to ask. Movies aren't made for your TV, for the most part. Filmmakers frame their movies to fit their vision regardless of your TV's aspect ratio. In fact, TVs were specifically made 16:9 so that the black bars won't take up too much real estate when watching full frame or widescreen content.

  • @this_is_AK
    @this_is_AK 3 роки тому +3

    Nice ! Compact and to the point.

  • @_lean17_
    @_lean17_ 3 роки тому

    I forced stretch the film aspect ratio when I downloaded the film cause I dislike his artistic vision for the aspect ratio

    • @aamarrahman8631
      @aamarrahman8631 2 роки тому

      Stretching..? how stupid it sound man... just crop it smh

  • @babyyames
    @babyyames 3 роки тому

    I didn’t like it fr I was heka mad lol

  • @GhostLink92
    @GhostLink92 3 роки тому +1

    Meh, it bugged me throughout, and I thought about manually stretching it with my TV settings.
    I can go back and watch the old Star Trek shows in 4:3 no problem. That's how they were filmed, and it's such a a relatively low resolution that it doesn't bother me. But I can't justify doing it in 2021 with what amounts to a modern film. (Yes I know, current year argument means shit)
    Edit: alright having the visual difference on screen here helped me understand it a little. Still not 100% sold on it, but I get it. I suppose I wouldn't bitch about it in Imax.

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому

      Star Trek was shot on film so it has extremely high resolution.

    • @Elektr0hazard
      @Elektr0hazard 3 роки тому +1

      You're just used to it because the homescreen standard is a widescreen, but anything shot on film is actually 4:3 (it's the ratio of the actual pictures in the film roll) and you usually see a cropped version. Also, film has very high resolution, but the ways to take that into something you could see at home used to destroy that resolution, but not anymore. That's why these new blu-rays of old movies like Back To The Future look so nice and crispy.

  • @the_mariocrafter
    @the_mariocrafter 3 роки тому

    Why is this video not 4:3

  • @PhilFernandes84
    @PhilFernandes84 3 роки тому +1

    aspect ratio best for iPads 👍 enjoyed it

  • @Neox999
    @Neox999 3 роки тому +1

    They did crop some scenes for the Snyder cut though (meaning you can see more in the 16:9 version).
    Also the argument of quality loss doesn't make sense to me anyway. Aren't they using like 12k to 18k IMAX cameras anyway? Can't they just film with a slightly larger angle and then crop it however they want with no noticable quality loss even on 4k? I mean they did it already with some scenes and who knows on how many more we don't know about.
    Does anyone know more abou this?

    • @domymbd
      @domymbd 2 роки тому

      there's not such thing as a 16:9 version of the Snyder cut...

  • @johnny1013johnny
    @johnny1013johnny 3 роки тому +1

    This my friends, is a perfect video.

  • @bhairava812
    @bhairava812 3 роки тому +1

    We love u snyder

  • @snowatom
    @snowatom 3 роки тому +4

    No no no.... 4:3 is just stupid. People have two eyes for horizontal view. This looks like a post stamp. It’s sad. Why didn’t you also made the sound mono, or even black and white.... hate it, not watching it.....

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому

      4:3 isn't stupid in the slightest. It's an aspect ratio like any other and a choice up to the director. The same goes for mono audio (thinking of Woody Allen) and black and white film (thinking The Lighthouse). Embrace a creator's vision and choices, don't act like we should limit them. Now _that's_ stupid.

    • @snowatom
      @snowatom 3 роки тому +2

      @@Rilumai My opinion stands. Not every decision made by directors are perfect. And this is one of those times. Cropping scenes is a big part of moviemaking and photography in general. This is just a twisted artistic statement, that fools everybody into thinking it’s a great idea... it’s not. Just as 3D movies also weren’t...

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому +1

      @@snowatom You're right, not every decision made by a director is perfect, but that doesn't mean the choice Snyder made here was a bad one. Aspect ratios are a tool just like lighting, blocking, film stock/digital, colour, etc.

  • @samuelito39
    @samuelito39 3 роки тому +1

    That voice tho

  • @FinalShotFilms
    @FinalShotFilms 3 роки тому +7

    It’s dumb. Just make it 16:9

    • @chrisstroud60
      @chrisstroud60 3 роки тому

      Dumb now because no imax. It would look pretty fire though in imax not gonna lie

    • @FinalShotFilms
      @FinalShotFilms 3 роки тому

      @@chrisstroud60 it would but it’s made for hbo max so...

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому

      How about we don't tell directors how to frame their movies?

    • @FinalShotFilms
      @FinalShotFilms 3 роки тому

      @@Rilumai lol
      there's way too much head room in most shots that there is no way that was the original plan.

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому

      @@FinalShotFilms Did he not shoot in IMAX for IMAX? Because that says otherwise.

  • @chrisstroud60
    @chrisstroud60 3 роки тому

    So that means I have to sit closer to my tv lol. Or I can just be lazy and crop the picture

  • @dsinned9992
    @dsinned9992 3 роки тому

    Changed my TV settings to get rid of the black bars

  • @TheMiddleGroundWithBen
    @TheMiddleGroundWithBen 3 роки тому +2

    I used my TV's zoom option to crop just a little of it so that it would fill more of my screen and make it closer to widescreen. I didn't mind losing some of the top and bottom, and the resolution still looked good. I just couldn't watch 4:3...I am so used to films filling out the screen.

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому +2

      Barely any film ever made fills a 16:9 screen. I don't understand how people are so against black bars but they're fine chopping off parts of the screen. Makes absolutely no sense.

    • @TheMiddleGroundWithBen
      @TheMiddleGroundWithBen 3 роки тому +1

      @@Rilumai To each their own. I just don't like huge portions of my widescreen TV being unused. It's true most films don't fill the entire screen so I always crop some off with zoom. It's what I prefer. If you don't then no big deal to me. Like I said to each their own.

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому

      ​@@TheMiddleGroundWithBen Yeah, I mean you do you, I just don't get it. Not only that, but you're getting _more_ information with this cut of Justice League. Also as a side note, the reason why TVs are 16:9 is simply because it's a compromise between 1.37:1 and 2.35:1. It's made that way specifically so the black bars aren't taking up that much real estate on your television when you watch either one.

  • @MegaTroySmith
    @MegaTroySmith 3 роки тому

    Actually, old movies back then also had a legit differently framed 4:3 version of the film... back to the future 1 & the first 2 spiderman films being great examples

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 роки тому

      That makes no sense at all.
      The reason why movies were in 4:3 was to crop property for tv that meant much of the picture was missing.
      People were watching tv which was a video tape copy of the original movie

    • @MegaTroySmith
      @MegaTroySmith 2 роки тому

      @@bighands69 no, movie studios would make 2 versions with different aspect ratios back then just look up spiderman 1 and back to the future 1 comparison vids

  • @R0ttiger
    @R0ttiger 3 роки тому

    Insta like for getting to the point.

  • @tonead3748
    @tonead3748 3 роки тому

    Bruh I just got a 77” oled for a reason lol made me have flash backs to a 65 in lost 7 inches on each side movie was good ratio trash

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому

      You're still seeing all of the image, though..

  • @kvothe6690
    @kvothe6690 3 роки тому

    so i can make it 16x9 just like the filmmakers

  • @raygunn4392
    @raygunn4392 3 роки тому

    I don’t understand why t.v’s can’t just fill the screen old tv top and bottom black bars new tv top and bottom bars and now side to side bars what type of aspect ratio do we need for tv to have this problem eliminated. Tired of wasted real estate on my tv. I don’t have a problem with aspect ratio, it’s the fact my tv can’t handle these ratios. Would like a tv top bottom side to side be able to handle and adjust to all aspect ratios. Just saying.

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому +1

      Stretching and/or cropping the picture is infinitely worse than just watching them with black bars at their correct aspect ratios. You're never going to eliminate them because people shoot at different ratios all the time.

    • @Sujeesh_Bhosri
      @Sujeesh_Bhosri 3 роки тому

      Just hide the bars with bed sheets

    • @raygunn4392
      @raygunn4392 3 роки тому +1

      @@Sujeesh_Bhosri 🙂

  • @shiskeyoffles
    @shiskeyoffles 3 роки тому +2

    First thing I'm gonna do is rip the whole movie, crop it in some editing software and then watch on TV for best results.
    I like that there is even an option for full details but I simply hate the square size...

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому +1

      "...crop for best results." Lmao, no. Watching it in its intended aspect ratio gives you the best results.

  • @Coaltal45
    @Coaltal45 3 роки тому

    How can you appreciate artistic vision meant for IMAX on a small screen. Which is how 99% of the audience is going to view the movie. WTF were they thinking. And not all TVs will let you stretch or fill a screen, assuming you know how to do that. Be on the look out Wide screen fan copies to be made.

  • @naabii2722
    @naabii2722 3 роки тому

    Most movie enthusiasts: its more information on the top and bottom of the movie!
    Yeah, say that to my 21inch screen, sure more information on top and bottom. But everything will be seen smaller. Because my screen can't magically becomes taller.

  • @seanc41556
    @seanc41556 3 роки тому

    'Ort

  • @sumisumi-by8xv
    @sumisumi-by8xv 3 роки тому +1

    Thats the dumbest idea ever, ok lets go back to the 60, and watch it in black and white

    • @YourMovieFix
      @YourMovieFix  3 роки тому +1

      It's available in color just for people like you. No need to be so salty over having options lol

    • @sumisumi-by8xv
      @sumisumi-by8xv 3 роки тому

      @@YourMovieFix who said it's not available in colours, dummy? Just listen before you start using all 2 braincells that you got

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому

      @@sumisumi-by8xv Lmfao, bit ironic calling out someone's two brain cells there, bud.

    • @sumisumi-by8xv
      @sumisumi-by8xv 3 роки тому

      @@Rilumai wow, did he just share them 2 braincells with you? So now you're the bright Knight coming for rescue? 😂😂😂😂 Sit down dork

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому

      @@sumisumi-by8xv Hahahaha. Maybe sit and think about why he chose to shoot it in 4:3 before calling it the dumbest idea ever. And what does the 60's have to do with anything?

  • @phalanxHH
    @phalanxHH 3 роки тому

    That's just a step back. We are not in the 90s or 2000s anymore where most people still had 4:3 monitors.

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому

      Nearly every movie ever made isn't even 16:9, so it doesn't matter what year we're in or the aspect ratio of our screens. Movies are going to be shot in all kinds of aspect ratios. 4:3 is not a step back.

  • @albundy7343
    @albundy7343 3 роки тому +1

    Just started watching it saw the little square showing the movie turned the movie off.

    • @ooOmegaSupremeoo
      @ooOmegaSupremeoo 3 роки тому +1

      That's pathetic. What's wrong with you?

    • @TubeMotivations
      @TubeMotivations 3 роки тому

      @@ooOmegaSupremeoo bruh we ain’t old like you, we ain’t used to watching fricking 4:3 movies, mostly all the movies I watch is in 16:9 the square thing is just weird feels like I’m watching a movie in the 90’s or something

  • @FandangoBatter
    @FandangoBatter 3 роки тому +1

    It detracts from watching it for me. I'm not sure I'll finish the movie. It makes me feel like I'm watching an unfinished movie.

  • @krisbedgood6055
    @krisbedgood6055 3 роки тому +2

    I'm sorry this is not awesome it stinks. This is where the producer should have told him what an idiot he is for filming it this way. If his Creative Vision can't be a modern one then I don't want it but I guess I should be glad it's not black and white.

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 3 роки тому +1

      Imagine being upset at the 4:3 aspect ratio and the thought of it being in black and white. Both of those are just as modern as widescreen and colour, which came out in 1953 and 1932, respectively. Embrace a creator's vision and their choices. It's much, much better than limiting them.

    • @domymbd
      @domymbd 2 роки тому

      who hurt you?

  • @orestesdd
    @orestesdd 3 роки тому +1

    JUSTICE LEAGUE: THE SNYDER CUT IN 4:3 SUCKS NO MATTER WHAT SNYDER SAYS IN THIS MOTHERN TIME AND NOT AT THE BEGINNING OF TV INVENTION. For instance, I have seen lots of IMAX theater releases which were also shown on a widescreen versions. Why he does this is beyond stupidity to put it mildly! I am canceling my HBO Max subscription!!!

  • @Anthoniiii
    @Anthoniiii 3 роки тому +1

    Only a fool can make movie with this ratio..even 80s film had widescreen ratio and thay had full screen.

    • @FinalConsensus
      @FinalConsensus 3 роки тому +5

      You're complaining about a movie that no one is forcing you to watch or like so who's the real fool here?

    • @Mistygio
      @Mistygio 3 роки тому +1

      80s films were nearly 4:3 just like this movie. 80s is just around the time widescreen started gaining popularity because John Carpenter used it for Halloween and it was a hit movie. Most movies were not widescreen and were cropped to fit widescreen TVs. Even today, most movies that are shot on film are not widescreen but are pathetically cropped to be widescreen on a 16:9 TV.
      I really do hope that 1.33:1 TVs become a thing in the future. I am not a fan of our modern 16:9 TVs. I prefer a full image

    • @SouthPawArtist
      @SouthPawArtist 3 роки тому

      Only fools get ratioed over a rant about aspect ratios.

    • @zaaaaac8
      @zaaaaac8 3 роки тому +1

      You don't know anythin about cinematography LOL

  • @bighands69
    @bighands69 2 роки тому

    It makes no sense at all having it in 4:3 ratio for the home experience. Screens at home are small and not a large cinema screen.
    The reasoning behind it is just ridiculous.

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 2 роки тому

      Screen size has nothing to do with aspect ratios. Small or large screen, wide or tight aspect ratio; it doesn't matter. Also, Snyder shot this film for the cinema in the first place. There's no way he could've predicted a global pandemic back in 2016.