Not sure, but i would imagine you need to be in range of the Enemy for the execute to trigger. And like Riot have already said the Elder already is Op it just dosent feel it cause it has a burn over time, but in essence it is doing the same dmg. Now you can see it more obvious. And again like Phy said this Elder is good for the losing side to make a comeback.
X3Vort it’s been playtested already, the elder execute range is infinite. If you’re a teemo in your fountain and someone steps on a shroom outside their fountain and gets to 20% hp it still executes
I'm imagining him with Fire Dragon soul.... imagine he turns on his E and goes ham in enemy team... all those champs in enemy team and minions he is hitting... generating seperate AOEs.... and that he will generate because every 3 seconds... he will be hitting multiple champions at the exact same time with his E on.... so does the AOE come out of only the nearest targets... or all targets?
@@INameIsGood karthus R, then everyone except tanks are around 22 percent health, The burn damage (which is true damage) puts them to below 20% health then kills them. Easy double - quadra for karthus, and possible penta for squishy team comps.
Even if you become a jungle main, you're still going to need to rely on your team to help with vision control and zoning control to better contest the dragon or ensure safe capture/kill on the objective. This comment, to me, makes you seem like the random degenerate. :3
Azimoc nah, I take dragons right now completely on my own, just buy a sweeper and track were the enemy jungler is tbh usually teammates are useless regardless
@@xiampiii In mid-low plat and below maybe, but once you get higher up, people start having a brain. Everything feels "oppressive" to people who don't know how to combat it or prepare for the worst outcome (losing elder when they're stronger than you is an example). It's honestly fairly balanced but the team with more coordination to keeping the objective secured *usually* has the better chance of contesting it if the game is a fair fight.
Execute damage is the new True damage. Remember when everyone freaked out about champion that come with true damage because building resistances is useless? League has definitely powercrept over the years lol.
@@liethrabi9685 The 3rd dragon that spawns changes the map, and it'll be the only dragon that spawns for the rest of the game until a team reaches their fourth dragon, where they'll get the dragon soul.
Initial thoughts on this based solely on this video are that it feels like they are adding too much RNG into the game and that makes things like comps and execution early game possibly have much less of an impact late game than it should. Of course i could be wrong and this is a preseason patch to test everything so we shall see.
This was said back when elemental dragons dropped,so it might just be history repeating itself and us just being scared of change,but I do feel all this is getting a bit ridiculous.
Ah yes, I love the fact they're making the game more RNG based where some champions are going to become legitimately overpowered just because x dragon spawns a few times.
I mean, it relies on getting pretty far into the game. If anything is going to get him perma banned or nerfed, it’s the buffs they are doing for farm junglers.
@@Zerhapy with pyke you ult anyway under the execute treshold (20%) same work for cho / urgot (maybe just urgot can execute on the first r instead the second click of it). Garen and darius is still true damage but not an execute on fixed % hp, so you still have to bring the enemy under the execute treshold. Champion as Jinx / Ez / Ashe can snipe for the execute; jhin might do a quadra with a good ult, also xerath can do well with it (still require aim) Teemo shroom will be an execute too Only way to "fix" the elder buff is put a max range on the execute or will be a mess
What if they just made 4 different elemental versions of the rift. Each with their own unique stuff and have that in champ select? Probably gives a more diverse freedom in choosing and building comps oooor a more tactical and controlled way to achieve each element. It feels too much like rng. And we'll get luck rage etc fkfkfk. Imagine in competitive, each team chooses which element to play in back and forth and they can have much more interesting picks and comps! We can finally see other champions!
i like this idea, both teams choose a rift element in champ select and whoever kills dragon changes the map to their chosen element rift, that way dragon is very important and worth fighting for. the rift will not change until another dragon is killed or after 5mins changes back to neutral rift. imagine full movespeed comp with wind drakes opop
Yea i think this is the only way to balance this idea. The current concept is just a bit too up in the air and not having that knowledge at champ select is suuuuuch a big deal...
The ocean one still gives me night mares. Beautiful but deadly. My problem is, since it affects the map world wide, not knowing what you're gonna get is gonna suck. Imagine getting into a game and the ocean is the one that is gonnd change the map, and there's a rengar on the enemy team. I don't want to even pop that ocean knowing rengar gets bushes all over to cap me
You wouldn't know anyways, the map changes the moment the 2nd dragon is slain TO THE ELEMENT OF THE 3RD DRAGON, the moment you kill the 2nd and the icon for the next dragon appears in the wall, blam, the map is changed to that element.
If I see a Rengar in enemy team and this change goes live, at start of game I will be like "Okay you manatees. DRAGON IS YOUR SPECIAL PRINCESS. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DIE OKAY? NOT EVEN ONCE! I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE BUFFS. JUST DONT GET THAT FUCKIN DRAGON TO GIVE RENGAR BUSHES." No wait, I am just going to permaban Rengar.
I love everything about these changes, except for the elder dragon buff. It can be a comeback mechanic, but more often than not the team who is in control of the game is gonna be in control of the elder and if the winning side gets that, I dare say it's a stronger finisher than baron buff. If the average champion on the enemy team has 2000 HP (which is on the low side), that's how much total HP this buff means you can ignore from the enemy team. Not including the burn damage and with seemingly no cap on the range this can execute, it is beyond insane. Counters a lot of champions and items that bring you back from low HP (Maw, Steraks, Wits end).
And it can be as late as 7drags into the game. Elder won't happen very early that often unless a team is getting destroyed, so it won't matter either way. And if the game is 50 min in it needs to end anyway.
20% of 2k hp (the general health pool of most level 18 adc's) would be 400 health. A tankier top lane with 3000 - 3500 health would be 600 - 700 for the 20% execute. It's a fair threshold so long as you're aware the buff is there and you can better control the fight. If you're getting rolled, you're gonna get rolled. It's a game-ending buff. That's the point of the elder changes. If you ere 5-10% like the other guy wants it to be, you'd be at 100 - 200 on a 2000 hp adc. Which feels super awkward because at that point, they're one auto away from being killed by most characters with ~250 ad. For tanks, 3000 - 3500 at 5 - 10% execute is 150 - 300 (for 5 - 10% at 3000 hp) and 175 - 350 hp (for 5 - 10% at 3500 hp). That's a super awkward buff to have that is extremely weak. If you were to have a 5 - 10% execute you might as well make your attacks burn for true damage again as that would output more damage than a 5 - 10% execute. The current burn on an even fight will do more than 5 - 10% of the damage to the target depending on your current AD, attack speed, etc. It procs like red buff, having a tick on the first hit and a constant tick throughout.
RIOT GAMES: What can we do to make sure a team wins the game? Employee: Just put a huge execute blast from the other side of the map RIOT GAMES: First of all, promoted
I just want the pre-elemental dragon back. I don’t want games that are different from the last excluding what champions and runes players selected pre-game. I want consistency.
@@excuseme3563 If Rengar can jump from bushes that are created then water walking should apply to any water that gets created. *Edit: But I wouldn't put it past Riot to make decisions that are not consistent. Example: Riot wants to remove all RNG then proceeds to make champions that are full of RNG.
the elder execute will be so broken, players arent use to 20% health being 0% health. Like you will have 30% health and try outplay just to be executed.
I feel like this is an indirect buff to many champions, my girl Shyvana gonna be coming back a bit for her early game presence when it comes to taking drakes due to her increased damage against them, I've seen Karthus and Rengar mentioned as well and many more to still be determined. I imagine the ocean buff with a Moakai or just any take will be disgusting as mountain drake.
i dont use this feature but i think you can mess with the in game gamma to change the brightness and detail of stuff or just lower your screen brightness and contrast
You should probably show the actual movement speed gained from cloud, and not take nimbus cloak when showing how much movement speed you get from ulting with the cloud dragon soul.
Make Cloud Dragon Soul grants 10% passive MS, doubled while out of combat. 40% for 3 seconds on the ultimate cast and disables the passive completely in the cooldown.
Ikr? I'm not new but still fairly new. Been playing a few months. But for those who do not know about this, my god will they be surprised. Love the changes but numbers need tweeks
Imagine being that new player hiding in a bush and watching the enemy team pass by without them warding the bush and then infernal drake burns the bush that new player was hiding in
cloud drake should put wind tunnels in the river its seems silly only in the jungle and honestly Infernal drake seems broke as fuck that dragon soul is op af
did you know that the life elder dragon also does more damage and gets tankier to damage from champions which have more drakes? If you have 5 drakes it will be harder for you to take elder than if you have 0 drakes. (obviously mountain cheats that system a little bit but still)
this seems so broken... everything will be absolutely chaotic and one team will be so much stronger than another because of these buffs. games will just be who can secure the dragons first.
yes but its bugged on the pbe. even if you choose the dragon it the map will change to what the 3rd drag would have been even if you spawn different ones.
I really like everything except that elder dragon buff. It makes assasins even better, near death escapes not existent, and bruisers/ tanks not that effective because 20% of their health is actually a lot... Not to mention all attacks have true damage... Not cool Riot
But isn't the elder dragon only spawning after 35 min? And those low health escapes and tanks are not gonna be useless until one team picks up the buff that lasts for like 2min (I don't actually know how long it lasts) and can only be picked up late game. What you're saying is like saying that Baron makes champions with waveclear usless
@@kelmirosue3251 5-10% is not really that much. 10% of a 2000 health champion is only 200 dmg. And that's not really what you would expect from a "Game winning Objective". But Im just a random lol player and not a part of the Riot balance team. I think they'll get just have to see how strong it is and adjust it accordingly.
Suspense minimum spawn time for elder drake is 20 minutes now (if 1 team kills a dragon every 5 min exactly) since it now spawns after a team has slained 4 dragons and obtained a drsgon stone regardless of time, so maximum amount of dragon slains before elder even appears is 7 (4-3 distribution) you can have 50 min games without elder even spawning. So yeah u are completely right
Riot is straight up being dumb now. This will make the games SUPER RANDOM. "Oh, you been winning the game for the first 30 mins? who cares, all you need is the elder drake bro." Yes the winning team will have control over the pit but it pretty much comes down to a single smite fight to decide the whole game even if you're 10k gold ahead. ADC with hurricane will literally execute EVERYONE. This doesn't even account for the random effects of the 3rd drake that can't really be prepped for.
Infernal drake seems of course good, but not too op to me, it basically gives every champion an iceborn gauntlet passive without the slow and even less dmg
@@kelmirosue3251 yes, but as he showed even tho he didnt point it out, the scalings seem to be really low, as with the fully build ad ezreal in the vid it had a total bonus dmg from ad of 97. So the ad scaling is like 20-30% which isnt great at all. The ap scaling will most likely be like 10 percent lower and the health scaling idk
@@falkfink fair. Idk the scalings for sure so can't say. But it's a balanced buff imo. Plus a 3 second cooldown means what? Triggering maybe twice per battle? So overall balanced. I'm more worried about the 20% on the execute then anything else
So does it mean we should pick which soul (or 4th dragon) we should get? Or should we always try to get all dragons all the time and don't worry which 4th dragon to get?
That means a tank with almost 1,000 hp will get insta rekt by an execute if someone is rolling with Elder Dragon. That’s just way too much, they should have the execute dmg scale with game time.
Riot has actually lost their minds with the 20% health execute. Do they realize what this means? It reduces every single player on the other team's effective health pool by 20%, this is ridiculous and damn near impossible to outplay. The Elder Dragon is supposed to make fighting against the buffed team extremely difficult, but not impossible in much the same way that a team with baron buff can be hard to beat but is still beatable. I personally liked the way Elder Dragon worked with the other "lower" drake buffs, and I feel that the Elder Buff should still work around them - for example, maybe giving the team that kills it an extra dragon soul that they previously did not have would sure as hell be a lot more fair than "woops now you only have 80% of your health to work with"
no that's not how it works, the player needs to be damaged when they are below 20% most of the time a player will get damaged when they are not at the 20% more like 10% sometimes even with elder buff some1 wont even get executed because they get reduced from >20% -> 0% in 1 single attack
Considering how OP drags affect the game now drags should be added to pick and ban, like each team can pick a drag they want in the game, then those 2 will be in the game. Otherwise it’s kinda RNG as to what champions get actual use out of them and we already have enough RNG nonsense in the game
I'm still a little confused about how the Dragon soul works. I think that when you kill the third drake, and the terrain changes only ONE team gets the Dragon Soul buff? And if that's the case is there any chance for the opposing team to obtain the Dragon Soul buff?
3rd dragon that spawns become the terrain. So for instance if you kill an earth and water, then let's say an infernal dragon would spawn next, then the rift itself becomes fiery before the dragon spawns, and the rest of it becomes infernal drakes
wait so the elder dragon can be stolen. but what if the other team kills the 4th dragon do they get the soul or do they get the buff only and if they get the buff only is the soul just lost or is their another chance?
Botlane will be flamed so hard if they loose drake controll XD And god help the jungler if he starts drake without smite rofl. Feels like you loose a Baron when you loose a drake now....
New ocean dragon: Exists
Rengar: *Heavy Breathing*
New infernal dragon : Exists
Rengar: *Gets ready for a 35%wr and a rework*
S1-9: let’s go baron
S10: baron? Haven’t heard that name in a year kappa
Honestly, that 20% execute seems too op
Honestly, all dragon buffs seems too op
Lategame Karthus with that buff is gonna be actually fucked
Not sure, but i would imagine you need to be in range of the Enemy for the execute to trigger. And like Riot have already said the Elder already is Op it just dosent feel it cause it has a burn over time, but in essence it is doing the same dmg. Now you can see it more obvious. And again like Phy said this Elder is good for the losing side to make a comeback.
It’s very hard to get
X3Vort it’s been playtested already, the elder execute range is infinite. If you’re a teemo in your fountain and someone steps on a shroom outside their fountain and gets to 20% hp it still executes
im just imagining karthus with elder dragon
I think excecute works only on basic attacks, or am I missing something?
Edit: ohh it's just the first part, the burn that's activated with autos
I'm imagining him with Fire Dragon soul.... imagine he turns on his E and goes ham in enemy team... all those champs in enemy team and minions he is hitting... generating seperate AOEs.... and that he will generate because every 3 seconds... he will be hitting multiple champions at the exact same time with his E on.... so does the AOE come out of only the nearest targets... or all targets?
@@INameIsGood karthus R, then everyone except tanks are around 22 percent health,
The burn damage (which is true damage) puts them to below 20% health then kills them.
Easy double - quadra for karthus, and possible penta for squishy team comps.
*Karthus with Elder Dragon buff:*
Oh yeah. It's all coming together.
I’m a jungle main now... I’m not putting the fate of my team in the hands of a random degenerate
Even if you become a jungle main, you're still going to need to rely on your team to help with vision control and zoning control to better contest the dragon or ensure safe capture/kill on the objective. This comment, to me, makes you seem like the random degenerate. :3
Azimoc nah, I take dragons right now completely on my own, just buy a sweeper and track were the enemy jungler is tbh usually teammates are useless regardless
@@xiampiii In mid-low plat and below maybe, but once you get higher up, people start having a brain. Everything feels "oppressive" to people who don't know how to combat it or prepare for the worst outcome (losing elder when they're stronger than you is an example). It's honestly fairly balanced but the team with more coordination to keeping the objective secured *usually* has the better chance of contesting it if the game is a fair fight.
Riot Games: everyone hates Pyke's ult, what should we do?
also Riot Games: EVERYONE WILL HAVE PYKE ULT IN SEASON 10 HAVE FUN EHEHXDD
auto constant proccing pyke ult*
@@redowanalamgir9495 i can already hear the screams of the dead, FeelsSeason10Man
Well looks like u wont be safe at any stage of the game from pyke either. With the gold generation stopping hes gonna b the go to support
Execute damage is the new True damage.
Remember when everyone freaked out about champion that come with true damage because building resistances is useless? League has definitely powercrept over the years lol.
@Valek O'Keefe his ult is what makes him broken, since its 600 free gold, the rest of his kit is unhealthy but not broken
I believe it's the third dragon that changes the map, not the fourth one.
Yeah I corrected myself later my bad!
Wait is it the third drake one of the team stacks? or the third drake spawn period ?
@@liethrabi9685 Third that spawns
@@liethrabi9685 The 3rd dragon that spawns changes the map, and it'll be the only dragon that spawns for the rest of the game until a team reaches their fourth dragon, where they'll get the dragon soul.
@@kadejaroon1667 so both teams can get 3 dragons and if one team get the 4th they get the dragon soul and the elder spawns right?
Initial thoughts on this based solely on this video are that it feels like they are adding too much RNG into the game and that makes things like comps and execution early game possibly have much less of an impact late game than it should. Of course i could be wrong and this is a preseason patch to test everything so we shall see.
Yeah and the bonuses are not at all balanced to each other, the cloud bonuses in particular are super champion dependant.
@@sombrego2260 Yeah, imagine a 3 cloud drake karthus
Completely agree, this is just another layer the balance team does not need. Lol
Agreed. It's obvious Riot wants the clown fiesta chaos that this will create in the Pro Scene.
Strategy is being edged out for omg big playz.
This was said back when elemental dragons dropped,so it might just be history repeating itself and us just being scared of change,but I do feel all this is getting a bit ridiculous.
"Better jng wins" will be reality in s10 i see
Except that they get even less XP
Krulcifer. Why is that?
Devilman - Because Riot is nerfing jungle xp again.
Even if you have a better jungle but the botlane is feeding. It doesntnmake a diffrence. dragon visin/control in the early game is handled by botlane
better smiter wins
Calling it now, somebody is going to make a meme video using the Ancient Dragon while yelling "Fus Ro Dah"
Imagine having the old Morde R, it would be pretty sick if the dragons have different buffs while controlled by morde
Something tells me that when the enemy team gets the elder not even hugging fountain will save me.
Cloud dragon areas will make Hecarim a god in almost every area of the map.
Ah yes, I love the fact they're making the game more RNG based where some champions are going to become legitimately overpowered just because x dragon spawns a few times.
Yeah. Imagine playing rengar and getting 3rd ocean, then the next game getting 3rd fire. 2 completely different games.
Maokai might actually becomr a decent jungler with these bushes
Remember maokai?
Karthus ult is now a death sentence with the elder dragon buff now, he will either get nerfed or perms banned
Gamn it’s any kill while under his ult, so Elder will actually help him overall
I mean, it relies on getting pretty far into the game. If anything is going to get him perma banned or nerfed, it’s the buffs they are doing for farm junglers.
Imagine teemo
imagine getting 3 cloud dragons beforehand for another 30% ult cd reduction, or two and the inferno soul...
@@Zerhapy with pyke you ult anyway under the execute treshold (20%) same work for cho / urgot (maybe just urgot can execute on the first r instead the second click of it).
Garen and darius is still true damage but not an execute on fixed % hp, so you still have to bring the enemy under the execute treshold.
Champion as Jinx / Ez / Ashe can snipe for the execute; jhin might do a quadra with a good ult, also xerath can do well with it (still require aim)
Teemo shroom will be an execute too
Only way to "fix" the elder buff is put a max range on the execute or will be a mess
Water drake map makes everything too relaxing. I don't want to fight in that! I just want to roll around in that grass and hang out with Gromp.
well lest see if you still want to roll around with an enemy rengar :)
I love how i commented on this but i dont see that comment yet i still got a notification
What if they just made 4 different elemental versions of the rift. Each with their own unique stuff and have that in champ select? Probably gives a more diverse freedom in choosing and building comps oooor a more tactical and controlled way to achieve each element. It feels too much like rng. And we'll get luck rage etc fkfkfk.
Imagine in competitive, each team chooses which element to play in back and forth and they can have much more interesting picks and comps! We can finally see other champions!
Fawn Frauscht this idea should be appreciated more
i like this idea, both teams choose a rift element in champ select and whoever kills dragon changes the map to their chosen element rift, that way dragon is very important and worth fighting for. the rift will not change until another dragon is killed or after 5mins changes back to neutral rift.
imagine full movespeed comp with wind drakes opop
Yea i think this is the only way to balance this idea. The current concept is just a bit too up in the air and not having that knowledge at champ select is suuuuuch a big deal...
@@egcurioso2921 that's actually a very interesting idea
First you removed sightstone and trackers, then the Ocean drake's gonna spawn tons of bushes?
These will affect the pro scene so much…
Yea, especially asian teams that focuses mostly on vision control, rip lck
@@keithdenzelroque2072 It asia, they will adapt quickly
prepare yourselfs, everyones goin to use burst champs
the map transformations look pretty cool 🙀
Every league player: There is too much rng in game
Riot: adds rng drakes
Rengar players will literally int for ocean Drake's LOL
The ocean one still gives me night mares. Beautiful but deadly.
My problem is, since it affects the map world wide, not knowing what you're gonna get is gonna suck. Imagine getting into a game and the ocean is the one that is gonnd change the map, and there's a rengar on the enemy team. I don't want to even pop that ocean knowing rengar gets bushes all over to cap me
Yeah RNG is too much in this
You wouldn't know anyways, the map changes the moment the 2nd dragon is slain TO THE ELEMENT OF THE 3RD DRAGON, the moment you kill the 2nd and the icon for the next dragon appears in the wall, blam, the map is changed to that element.
If I see a Rengar in enemy team and this change goes live, at start of game I will be like "Okay you manatees. DRAGON IS YOUR SPECIAL PRINCESS. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DIE OKAY? NOT EVEN ONCE! I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE BUFFS. JUST DONT GET THAT FUCKIN DRAGON TO GIVE RENGAR BUSHES."
No wait, I am just going to permaban Rengar.
I love everything about these changes, except for the elder dragon buff. It can be a comeback mechanic, but more often than not the team who is in control of the game is gonna be in control of the elder and if the winning side gets that, I dare say it's a stronger finisher than baron buff. If the average champion on the enemy team has 2000 HP (which is on the low side), that's how much total HP this buff means you can ignore from the enemy team. Not including the burn damage and with seemingly no cap on the range this can execute, it is beyond insane. Counters a lot of champions and items that bring you back from low HP (Maw, Steraks, Wits end).
Its a tool to end the fucking game
If a game gets to 5 dragons it should end very soon, there shouldn’t be 60-70 minute games
Ya a 20% execute is to fkn strong
And it can be as late as 7drags into the game. Elder won't happen very early that often unless a team is getting destroyed, so it won't matter either way. And if the game is 50 min in it needs to end anyway.
@@Flatebo31 its not spawned base on time anymore?
Oh it's 20% HP, I thought it would be lower, kinda on the fence about that
Same, prefer if it was 5-10%. Nothing more. It should be strong, but not THAT strong
20% of 2k hp (the general health pool of most level 18 adc's) would be 400 health. A tankier top lane with 3000 - 3500 health would be 600 - 700 for the 20% execute. It's a fair threshold so long as you're aware the buff is there and you can better control the fight. If you're getting rolled, you're gonna get rolled. It's a game-ending buff. That's the point of the elder changes. If you ere 5-10% like the other guy wants it to be, you'd be at 100 - 200 on a 2000 hp adc. Which feels super awkward because at that point, they're one auto away from being killed by most characters with ~250 ad. For tanks, 3000 - 3500 at 5 - 10% execute is 150 - 300 (for 5 - 10% at 3000 hp) and 175 - 350 hp (for 5 - 10% at 3500 hp). That's a super awkward buff to have that is extremely weak. If you were to have a 5 - 10% execute you might as well make your attacks burn for true damage again as that would output more damage than a 5 - 10% execute. The current burn on an even fight will do more than 5 - 10% of the damage to the target depending on your current AD, attack speed, etc. It procs like red buff, having a tick on the first hit and a constant tick throughout.
@@azimoc7982 true, I just worry that it will be too op
@@kelmirosue3251 That's the point of a *GAME-ENDING* buff. It's supposed to feel strong. It doesn't last long.
man this videos takes effort and luck. a like for your effort. thanks.
RIOT GAMES: What can we do to make sure a team wins the game?
Employee: Just put a huge execute blast from the other side of the map
RIOT GAMES: First of all, promoted
@Phy i like that Video format quiet well, props to you buddy
Karthus liked this elder dragon.
I just want the pre-elemental dragon back. I don’t want games that are different from the last excluding what champions and runes players selected pre-game. I want consistency.
Do you get waterwalking when walking through watery patches with ocean?
That would be kinda cool but i doubt it works like that
@@excuseme3563 If Rengar can jump from bushes that are created then water walking should apply to any water that gets created.
*Edit: But I wouldn't put it past Riot to make decisions that are not consistent. Example: Riot wants to remove all RNG then proceeds to make champions that are full of RNG.
This is a massive buff to Shyvana since she takes dragons faster and her kit relies on them. These new dragons seem stronger then the current ones.
the elder execute will be so broken, players arent use to 20% health being 0% health.
Like you will have 30% health and try outplay just to be executed.
Cloud sounds like a major Sona and Karma buff
Can they bring back season 3 and make that a second game?
I'm sure everyone would love the League of Cleavers and the League of Mogs being back again, which actually existed at the same time
I feel like this is an indirect buff to many champions, my girl Shyvana gonna be coming back a bit for her early game presence when it comes to taking drakes due to her increased damage against them, I've seen Karthus and Rengar mentioned as well and many more to still be determined. I imagine the ocean buff with a Moakai or just any take will be disgusting as mountain drake.
yup ocean soul on tanks and bruisers is filthy
You could have just tanked turret to lower your health for the water dragon soul effect.
The mountain and infernal drakes map changes hurt my eyes i hope they put in a way to make the colour easier on the eyes soon
i dont use this feature but i think you can mess with the in game gamma to change the brightness and detail of stuff or just lower your screen brightness and contrast
Elder Dragon buff - now I understand how from time to time a do kills without actually fighting stuff at that moment.
6:33 is it raining in the rift?!
it is
My experience on the PBE was once someone killed the 2nd drag the 3rd drag changed the map before it even spawned
Manymanboy It changes a couple seconds after you kill the second drake.
cant wait for kartus ult with elder dragon soul.
Fiddle with wind dragon soul should be fun
You should probably show the actual movement speed gained from cloud, and not take nimbus cloak when showing how much movement speed you get from ulting with the cloud dragon soul.
Quad mountain Shyvana with the conditioning rune might be unkillable in season 10.
looks like hecarim and rengar is getting a buff this season
Infernal map makes rengar weaker (removes many brushes)
@@Snip3rSapmi tru but imagine getting infernal last by that time a good ranger will be fed so Bush or not ultimate then 1shot
So it’s literally gonna be impossible for me to play league next season lmao, My FPS is already low enough without all this stuff.
CopyCat what model toaster are u playing on?
I feel u, already playing in the lowest graphics
James Corbett I play on an Acer laptop
not to mention the already annoying and unfixed baron freeze as it spawns
@@copycat1996 LOL
Cloud drake soul is massive. Think of 40% CDR Malzahar and Malphite. Jeez that is a tilt machine right there
great video glad you are speaking at a good speed.
Make Cloud Dragon Soul grants 10% passive MS, doubled while out of combat. 40% for 3 seconds on the ultimate cast and disables the passive completely in the cooldown.
I honestly prefer movespeed passive rather than the ultimate CDR
I like the new way this was done more fun and relaxing
I really want riot to show us what dragons is going to change the map before the match starts. Too much RNG otherwise.
gotta love the win more mechanics
thanks for the explanation my guy
Imagine being a new player and seeing the map change lmao
Ikr? I'm not new but still fairly new. Been playing a few months. But for those who do not know about this, my god will they be surprised. Love the changes but numbers need tweeks
Imagine starting in season 11 and thinking it was always like this
Imagine being that new player hiding in a bush and watching the enemy team pass by without them warding the bush and then infernal drake burns the bush that new player was hiding in
@@r.r815 lol, that would be halarious
cloud drake should put wind tunnels in the river its seems silly only in the jungle and honestly Infernal drake seems broke as fuck that dragon soul is op af
So basically if they get soul of the fire or earth dragon you can surrender. Cool.
I know 2 of the combinations
Mountain + ocean is Cloud drake
Mountain + cloud is infernal drake
thanks for the video. not sure if anyone pointed that out but you can spawn whichever dragon you like via the menu on the left side didn't you know?
This is gonna be a lot of fun 😅😅😅🤫
As a Kata otp, can’t wait to exetuce everyone with Dark Harvest and Elder buff 🤗🤗
Riot: New Drakes!
Singed Mains: Interesting...
did you know that the life elder dragon also does more damage and gets tankier to damage from champions which have more drakes?
If you have 5 drakes it will be harder for you to take elder than if you have 0 drakes.
(obviously mountain cheats that system a little bit but still)
Wait you said life servers are the changes on life servers already?
this seems so broken... everything will be absolutely chaotic and one team will be so much stronger than another because of these buffs. games will just be who can secure the dragons first.
Love the new real style :)
Can they nerf the range of the elderdragon buff. I mean karthus is a champion.
Can't you choose what dragons you spawn in using the practice tool sidebar?
yes but its bugged on the pbe. even if you choose the dragon it the map will change to what the 3rd drag would have been even if you spawn different ones.
What is the impact we will have on performance that's what matters and i need answers
Does the water in the buff areas actually work for Qiyanna W?
It's like ivern went and pooped all over the map
Cloud looks very fun for Hecarim
The wind is anyway in the dragon pit and near the buffs, don't affect lanes, so he kinda don't benefit unless countejungles / teamfight in jungle
@@alessandroseverino8222 you get speed after ult as well so can ult behind then charge with the buff
@@alessandroseverino8222 It's still a buff. Even if it's not exactly in those locations it's still better on him then most other champs
I really like everything except that elder dragon buff. It makes assasins even better, near death escapes not existent, and bruisers/ tanks not that effective because 20% of their health is actually a lot... Not to mention all attacks have true damage... Not cool Riot
But isn't the elder dragon only spawning after 35 min? And those low health escapes and tanks are not gonna be useless until one team picks up the buff that lasts for like 2min (I don't actually know how long it lasts) and can only be picked up late game. What you're saying is like saying that Baron makes champions with waveclear usless
@@louiskonerding7502 20% is a bit too much tbh. Now 5-10% I would be fine. A smaller number but still is extremely useful
@@kelmirosue3251 5-10% is not really that much. 10% of a 2000 health champion is only 200 dmg. And that's not really what you would expect from a "Game winning Objective". But Im just a random lol player and not a part of the Riot balance team. I think they'll get just have to see how strong it is and adjust it accordingly.
but this elder dragon is just making champs like pyke Darius and cho gath useles
No... A situational buff that can't be picked up until after 35 minutes in the game does not make champs with executes useless.
Suspense minimum spawn time for elder drake is 20 minutes now (if 1 team kills a dragon every 5 min exactly) since it now spawns after a team has slained 4 dragons and obtained a drsgon stone regardless of time, so maximum amount of dragon slains before elder even appears is 7 (4-3 distribution) you can have 50 min games without elder even spawning.
So yeah u are completely right
@@SuspenseGames I think he's specifying that they lose their tankiness if the enemy team gets them
Riot is straight up being dumb now. This will make the games SUPER RANDOM. "Oh, you been winning the game for the first 30 mins? who cares, all you need is the elder drake bro." Yes the winning team will have control over the pit but it pretty much comes down to a single smite fight to decide the whole game even if you're 10k gold ahead. ADC with hurricane will literally execute EVERYONE. This doesn't even account for the random effects of the 3rd drake that can't really be prepped for.
Infernal drake seems of course good, but not too op to me, it basically gives every champion an iceborn gauntlet passive without the slow and even less dmg
Might be more damage since it scaled off of AP, AD, and Health Bonus
@@kelmirosue3251 yes, but as he showed even tho he didnt point it out, the scalings seem to be really low, as with the fully build ad ezreal in the vid it had a total bonus dmg from ad of 97. So the ad scaling is like 20-30% which isnt great at all. The ap scaling will most likely be like 10 percent lower and the health scaling idk
@@falkfink fair. Idk the scalings for sure so can't say. But it's a balanced buff imo. Plus a 3 second cooldown means what? Triggering maybe twice per battle? So overall balanced. I'm more worried about the 20% on the execute then anything else
So does it mean we should pick which soul (or 4th dragon) we should get? Or should we always try to get all dragons all the time and don't worry which 4th dragon to get?
This all seems horrible to me adding more RNG to a skill based game can’t be a positive.
Same was said about the Elemental drakes dont be so negative all map changes in the past were pretty good
cloud drake just skarner passice for everyone
That means a tank with almost 1,000 hp will get insta rekt by an execute if someone is rolling with Elder Dragon. That’s just way too much, they should have the execute dmg scale with game time.
Can you have a soul shard without the elder drake?
Riot has actually lost their minds with the 20% health execute.
Do they realize what this means? It reduces every single player on the other team's effective health pool by 20%, this is ridiculous and damn near impossible to outplay. The Elder Dragon is supposed to make fighting against the buffed team extremely difficult, but not impossible in much the same way that a team with baron buff can be hard to beat but is still beatable. I personally liked the way Elder Dragon worked with the other "lower" drake buffs, and I feel that the Elder Buff should still work around them - for example, maybe giving the team that kills it an extra dragon soul that they previously did not have would sure as hell be a lot more fair than "woops now you only have 80% of your health to work with"
No
no that's not how it works, the player needs to be damaged when they are below 20% most of the time a player will get damaged when they are not at the 20% more like 10% sometimes even with elder buff some1 wont even get executed because they get reduced from >20% -> 0% in 1 single attack
Kassadin and Corki with cloud drake...
Imagine this
Singed
With cloud soul and nimbus cloak
Ghost and glory
I might just become a singed main again
Hecarim knocks on your door
Wait if you need an ult for the cloud soul, then how does Udyr proc it?
Phoenix form (his R) still counts as an ult I'm pretty sure
Jacob M so since the "most meta" udyr build doesn't even puts a point in R, it'll be useless on him xd
Elise, nida & jace can pretty much abuse this
Imagine getting Dragon Souls but got no Shouts
Dmg to NPC stuff -> defense is a way smaller change than MS -> R CD imho :p
welp. time to practice my rengar.
Considering how OP drags affect the game now drags should be added to pick and ban, like each team can pick a drag they want in the game, then those 2 will be in the game. Otherwise it’s kinda RNG as to what champions get actual use out of them and we already have enough RNG nonsense in the game
Mordekaiser gets his dragon back
Rip my FPS
I'm still a little confused about how the Dragon soul works. I think that when you kill the third drake, and the terrain changes only ONE team gets the Dragon Soul buff? And if that's the case is there any chance for the opposing team to obtain the Dragon Soul buff?
the FOURTH drake determines the dragon soul buff. So whoever takes the fourth drake receives the buff.
3rd dragon that spawns become the terrain. So for instance if you kill an earth and water, then let's say an infernal dragon would spawn next, then the rift itself becomes fiery before the dragon spawns, and the rest of it becomes infernal drakes
So basically if you play urgot your ult becomes uselless if you get elder
You can execute as you land the first part of your r, so you don't need to use the second part
That cloud dragon ms buff is gonna be really op with nimbus cloak on those champions who use it. Vlad for example
Hecarim more so then anything
ad udyr,''what?''
So is dragon soul always the same dragon that changes the map?
wait so the elder dragon can be stolen. but what if the other team kills the 4th dragon do they get the soul or do they get the buff only and if they get the buff only is the soul just lost or is their another chance?
Botlane will be flamed so hard if they loose drake controll XD
And god help the jungler if he starts drake without smite rofl.
Feels like you loose a Baron when you loose a drake now....
Thanks, this is useful infos
Imagine playing full AP shyvana with the 3 infernal element x)