MUSLIMS should APOLOGISE for SLAVERY ?! ft. AbdulHaq al-Ashanti

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  • Опубліковано 1 тра 2024
  • Discussing the historical account of slavery in Muslim societies ranging from the Zanj revolt through to Barbary piracy and the industry that evolved from the commodification of European captives from the coast of Ireland and Italy.
    This episodes discusses the following themes and topics
    * The Legitimacy of Slavery in Islam, its guiding principles and limits
    * The de-regulation of slavery in Muslim societies
    * The aftermath and legacy of slavery on the Muslim world
    * Discussion on Reparations and Apologies by Muslims to their victims
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 74

  • @Criticalthinker605
    @Criticalthinker605 Місяць тому +29

    I must admit I used to have a very polarised view of Muslim history. Not because it was deliberate, but because we mostly don't know some of our history. When my mom once told me that Arabs were in part to blame for slavery I was so angry. Like whyyyyyyyyyy. This channel as really made me understand why knowing our history is important, no matter how uncomfortable- for it gives us the upper hand in being grounded, impartial, fair members of society. It promotes critical thinking and ultimately progress. It brings us back to the tenants, beauty and desperate need of Islam. It's not that we should wallow in it, but we should definitely learn that Muslims do make grave mistakes. In saying this however, even knowing these unfortunate and uncomfortable times in history my faith in Islam has only grown because one can always see a direct correlation between moving away from Islam and Islaming principles/tradition and destruction. May Allah swt increase us in beneficial knowledge to be used in the way of Islam. Ameen.

    • @oluwaseunadeoyeoyebamiji3592
      @oluwaseunadeoyeoyebamiji3592 Місяць тому +3

      It is selective amnesia @criticalthinker605. If you ask, most folks will try vehemently to play down the importance of that history, they'll say "how does that improve your eeman?"

  • @MediaManagementAndPublishing
    @MediaManagementAndPublishing Місяць тому +4

    The context of apology seems as though it mainly comes from those families or kingdoms that are in direct beneficiaries of those offenses.
    It's a good argument that none of these peoples or regions or even regimes exist anymore to apologize, but on the part of the loss of history and the reparation and restoration of items, artifacts and ethnic belongings, should be repatriated.

  • @wewenang5167
    @wewenang5167 Місяць тому +7

    There are loads of black African tribes descendance of slaves in Saudi Arabia and many Arabs nations....they just assimilated with the locals and mixed. There is even a whole tribes of them and also in the royal family of the Saudi.

    • @1chibanKasuga
      @1chibanKasuga 26 днів тому

      The ones that thier ancestor balls weren't cut lol.

  • @dpireader32
    @dpireader32 Місяць тому +6

    Barbary slave trade was done in the northern coastal areas of the Maghreb, primarly Berbers, some Arabs and European converts partook in this Barbary slave trade. Trans-Saharan slave trade was primarly done by the Sous berbers and Arab and Berber Saharan people. Correction, it was not only a tit for tat, it was also economic, they sold these european slaves and made good money with it. One state that still exists from those days is the Moroccan dynasty of the Alaouites

    • @aldon1281
      @aldon1281 Місяць тому +4

      You are missing the point. Of course business people and pirates will make personal profit BUT that is not an economic gain for the state. The transatlantic slave trade was backed by huge banks and insurance companies for "economic gains" for over 400 years.

  • @morock1n
    @morock1n Місяць тому +39

    Slavery in Islam is an alternative to incarceration.
    Second it still respects human rights and dignity
    Third it’s not race based.
    Westerners try very hard to equate it to the savagery they committed.
    Incomparable

    • @S41GON
      @S41GON Місяць тому +2

      Please explain how galleon slavery respects human rights and dignity and how it is an alternative to incareration.

    • @HelloUser-eb6fy
      @HelloUser-eb6fy 28 днів тому

      ​@@S41GON Slavery in Islam was to reduce casualties in the war.

  • @Ashour.H
    @Ashour.H Місяць тому

    Very important topic, please do the part 2. May the All Knowing & All Wise increase your knowledge and wisdom.

  • @Wartensteiin
    @Wartensteiin Місяць тому +8

    We should apologize for the bad things muslim slavers did which were un-Islamic

    • @mukhtarolakunle8102
      @mukhtarolakunle8102 Місяць тому +3

      We (as in us right now) didn't it. So why should we apologize?

    • @mukhtarolakunle8102
      @mukhtarolakunle8102 Місяць тому +9

      We should say what they did that is wrong and why Islam is free from it but that is all.

    • @wewenang5167
      @wewenang5167 Місяць тому

      If that the case than ALL Christians should also apologize for anything that other Christians do in history...loads of stuff to apologize. This is the same tropes that todays media using to blame all Muslims just because some one from some other part of the Muslim world did something bad.....its ridiculous! Ask that person to apologize not the whole ummah!

    • @haticeergun7618
      @haticeergun7618 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@mukhtarolakunle8102
      It wasn't Muslims who captured slaves but Mekkan mushrikeen.
      This is a shameful load of crap.

    • @mukhtarolakunle8102
      @mukhtarolakunle8102 Місяць тому

      @@haticeergun7618 We are talking about after the prophet and his companions and the salaf died.

  • @109destiny
    @109destiny Місяць тому +21

    Not muslims
    Arabs*
    We ajam did not enslaved free men and women for the sake of Islam.

    • @mukhtarolakunle8102
      @mukhtarolakunle8102 Місяць тому

      Are Arabs suddenly non muslims?

    • @AllAboutIslam_True
      @AllAboutIslam_True Місяць тому +10

      Bro literally everyone had slaves. I’m ethnically Greek and my pagan/Christian ancestors had slaves

    • @alexferdinansyah757
      @alexferdinansyah757 Місяць тому +10

      @@AllAboutIslam_True umm, no, I am Indonesian, there is no history of us having slaves. Don't generalize.

    • @AllAboutIslam_True
      @AllAboutIslam_True Місяць тому +8

      @@alexferdinansyah757 slavery was formally ended in Indonesia in 1860.

    • @AllAboutIslam_True
      @AllAboutIslam_True Місяць тому +5

      @@alexferdinansyah757 you really think in the tens of thousands of years of history none of your ancestors owned slaves?

  • @usamaizm
    @usamaizm Місяць тому +1

    The history is actually more nuanced than alluded to.

  • @sucrecalderon
    @sucrecalderon Місяць тому +2

    Those that was holded as bodyguard for woman was castrated but not others ,,there are ancestors and small villages in turkey for example in Istanbul of African people

  • @Kbiggins1978
    @Kbiggins1978 Місяць тому +3

    I'm not asking for crap from anyone who enslaved or oppressed me. You're better off demanding it. Why ask someone who never liked you to begin with.?

    • @wewenang5167
      @wewenang5167 Місяць тому +1

      They take you as slave BECAUSE THEY LIKE YOU! xD. If they didn't like you you wont be taken as slave. Go read the Talmud, everyone is a slave or future slave according to the Jews, they are the master race. You cant criticized their books and their religion because its anti semitic. :P.

    • @yknows3158
      @yknows3158 24 дні тому

      You wont get anything.. always looking for handouts. Get a job

    • @malikjama2836
      @malikjama2836 20 днів тому

      There’s no idea of “liking” in history. It’s way more brutal and apathetic, people thought in what would benefit them personally, whether that be economically, militarily etc. it’s only recently in the last hundred years or so where the world has changed immensely

  • @a.h.2512
    @a.h.2512 Місяць тому +1

    They forgot the inquisition and genocide they committed.

  • @TheSlaveOfAllah1992
    @TheSlaveOfAllah1992 Місяць тому +7

    Before Islam came to Arabian Peninsula, the people used to invade other territories and they used to capture the people and sell them as slaves, or through debt and so on, and this was the case for the other nations, like the Greeks, Romans, etc. Even the Africans slaved other Africans.
    When islam came to Arabian Peninsula, Allah forbade this oppression, slavery can occur only in one way, and that is through a legitimate war. Not becouse of your skin color, or your religion.
    If the Muslims win against the kuffar, the Leader of the Muslims has 4 choices. 1. To let them go free. 2. Ransom. 3. Exchange with other Muslim prisoners. 4. Keep them to serve the Muslims.
    The Muslim Leader will look at what is the best option for the Muslims.
    If it is to keep them as servants then you feed them with the same food as yours, clothe them with the same clothes as yours, and so on.
    That is why, we see most of the servants embraced Islam and became Leaders.
    How on earth can these mushrikoon compare the servants in Islam which Allah legitimated and which is the best way and their slavery, which was nothing but oppression. The Muslims have to study to tackle these shunuhat brought by the kuffar.
    Jazakallahu khairan.

  • @DaggerSecurity
    @DaggerSecurity Місяць тому

    Regarding East African slave castration, from what I understand castration was not as common as Orientalists make it out to be. Practically speaking a castrated slave would be less than ideal for performing hard labour. Rather, only a limited amount of slavers were castrated who were designated to guard royal harems of people in power. The idea was that their main function was to make sure that the women in the harem could not escape, while simultaneously ensuring that the castrated slave could not indulge himself with the women of the harem.
    Additionally, I recall reading somewhere that many Arabs from all over Arabia do indeed have some admixture of African DNA in their ancestry, That would naturally mean that the slaves (men and women) obviously bred with the native Arabs, and Allah knows best

  • @haticeergun7618
    @haticeergun7618 Місяць тому +1

    Slaving humans is a legacy adopted by the children of Israel after they were saved from being slaves of Pharaoh.

  • @denisehamed3967
    @denisehamed3967 Місяць тому +3

    Every one enslaved every one 😢

  • @sucrecalderon
    @sucrecalderon Місяць тому +1

    That book about white slavery explain the hadith about to took white slaves for knowledge,work and so on cause black slaves would not live long

    • @xp9901
      @xp9901 Місяць тому

      source?

    • @sucrecalderon
      @sucrecalderon Місяць тому +1

      @@xp9901 i readed a hadith that came in my mind after i saw this video about white slavery ,,i search for another video a hadith ,,about this hadith i can post tomorrow cause i readed it today can find it faster

    • @MinalAmjad-gq1sc
      @MinalAmjad-gq1sc Місяць тому

      @@sucrecalderon hazrat Bilal habshi was black and he lived longer than Muhammad himself, if that hadees is authentic why this thing happened? Muhammad should have killed him. Don’t believe everything u see on social media dear..

  • @shafiqkhan917
    @shafiqkhan917 Місяць тому +5

    European nations Plus USA MUST Apologize from Africa India India Asia Afghanistan Middle east

    • @eg310
      @eg310 Місяць тому +1

      Why ? Because they won ? Have arabs apologized to iran for conquering them during the 7th century conquests ?

  • @DMC1982
    @DMC1982 Місяць тому +2

    If you don't know your History you become an instrument of your own destruction.
    Simon Bolivar

  • @user-ih8nm8lv1k
    @user-ih8nm8lv1k Місяць тому +1

    In general, in principle. No we shouldnt. And we never will.

  • @mdzeeshanansari7721
    @mdzeeshanansari7721 Місяць тому +1

    Yes we enslaved people just like british did and we muslims apologize for our actions.😢
    May Allah guide us.

    • @user-s8jb3qb6y
      @user-s8jb3qb6y Місяць тому

      "just like british did". care to explain?

    • @mdzeeshanansari7721
      @mdzeeshanansari7721 Місяць тому +2

      @@user-s8jb3qb6y bro I am a muslim and I have also read history books of many empires including Ottoman Empire and British Empire and the story is too long.