Solar Panels on a Tesla

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  • Опубліковано 29 лип 2020
  • Electric cars and solar panels seem like a match made in heaven: free, clean power as long as the sun shines. A self reliant, solar car that’s not dependent on the power grid could recharge sustainably from anywhere you dare to venture.
    So, have you ever wondered about bolting solar panels on your Tesla? And why don’t all electric cars come equipped with solar panels for a sleek charge-on-the-go solution? In fact, with improving solar technology and clever ground-up engineering, a few self-charging solar cars are just at the point of coming to market. In this video we’ll delve into the practicalities of solar power for vehicles and have a look at some of the early adopters of this emerging technology.
    In 2017, Elon Musk suggested that Tesla would offer optional solar tiles on the roof of the model 3, but later retracted the statement. This was Elon Musk’s idea in 2017 - that car roofs are small and inefficiently angled platforms for viable solar installations, and charging from a home solar installation made more sense. You could even charge at night on stored solar and cheaper off peak electricity. However, Elon might have changed his mind, confirming that the Cybertruck will offer a solar roof option on the truck’s bed.
    To understand if a solar car could really work, we need to find out how much solar energy the surface of a car can capture, and how much range that energy will provide under realistic driving conditions.
    So let’s take a sedan the size of a Tesla Model S, almost 5 m long and 2 m wide, and put a totally impractical, hypothetical array of solar cells covering the whole plan-view rectangular area of 10 square meters.
    When it comes down to it, solar vehicles are all about efficiency. It’s a matter of energy to weight. A practical solar car would really need to be designed from the ground up with reduced weight and low aerodynamic drag, to create a vehicle with more favorable energy density. For as far as electric cars have come in the last decade, the energy density of gasoline is still far greater than lithium ion batteries.
    Teams gather each year in Australia to race pure solar cars across the continent from Darwin to Adelaide under the scorching desert sun for the World Solar Challenge. Consistent winners of this class have been the evolving Stella series from the University of Eindhoven, the team from which Lightyear sprang in 2016. Lightyear one reevaluated every component of the car and used lighter materials like aluminum and carbon fiber, to build a lighter vehicle with the best aerodynamic coefficient of any car on the market. Four independently driven in-wheel motors also lower the cars weight, and improve powertrain efficiency.
    Sono Motors on the other hand, are starting with a more affordable $29,000 compact solar car designed for urban use. In designing the Scion prototype. Sono’s proudest new technology integrates solar cells into polymer body panels to replace conventional painted metal bodywork.
    Toyota has experimented with a demonstration Prius with high efficiency thin-film triple junction cells made by Sharp, and Hanergy Solar, a Chinese manufacturer of thin film panels, have also demonstrated prototype cars with panels that can harvest 8-10 kWh per day and supplied such panels to Aston Martin for their GTE racing car.
    Most solar panels rely on cells made from semiconducting silicon crystals, which convert sunlight to electricity at around 15%-19%, but new technologies are in the works to create higher efficiency solar cells utilizing new materials. As the future unfolds, and more cutting edge solar technologies come to market, we can see self charging solar electric vehicles become more and more practical, as cells get more and more efficient. A future cell technology with efficiencies above 50% would be a game changer, and probably make solar cars ubiquitous.
    Heavy batteries are a limiting factor in the feasibility of solar cars. A breakthrough battery with more favorable energy to weight characteristics would revolutionize electric transportation, and make solar cars far more realistic.
    Promising new technologies that utilize materials like graphene, solid polymers, and ceramics are currently in research and development, and are poised to create the next generation of powerful batteries with higher energy density, greater service life, faster charging, improved safety, and potentially even lower costs.
    So should you mount a solar panel on your Tesla to make it a solar tesla? Watch the video to find out.
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  • @UKKNGaming
    @UKKNGaming 3 роки тому +3429

    They gonna start charging for sun tax lmfao 😂

  • @phoshcus
    @phoshcus 3 роки тому +1666

    I used to fantasize about solar electric cars as a kid, crazy to see it come to fruition.

    • @RandeepSingh-yt3jm
      @RandeepSingh-yt3jm 3 роки тому +18

      Same dude

    • @kj8491
      @kj8491 3 роки тому +40

      I used to fantasize (and then was trying to make it as a kid) car with 2 magnets on rear mounted in vise-versa, so they would push car to move..
      Which also kind of happened, but in trains .. high-speed bullet trains are using that technology

    • @tongmovies
      @tongmovies 3 роки тому +7

      Like on Logans Run TV sow

    • @lofiseeker1790
      @lofiseeker1790 3 роки тому +12

      They called us crazy

    • @m.jministry356
      @m.jministry356 3 роки тому +8

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  • @ducknorris233
    @ducknorris233 3 роки тому +232

    “ the extra power from the solar system” took me a second to digest that use of “solar system”

    • @NithinJune
      @NithinJune 3 роки тому +4

      lmao

    • @migalruslan
      @migalruslan 3 роки тому +3

      Why is this the top comment

    • @ducknorris233
      @ducknorris233 3 роки тому +2

      @@migalruslan maybe people that heard that same sentence can relate

    • @NithinJune
      @NithinJune 3 роки тому +1

      @@migalruslan youtube is wierd in sorting comments

    • @ducknorris233
      @ducknorris233 3 роки тому +2

      Yes, very confusing. I wonder if it makes a difference if you are using PC, Mac or tablet.

  • @lugiasean19
    @lugiasean19 3 роки тому +717

    10% is worth it. Imagine if all the cars in the world saved that 10%

    • @a9h5m61
      @a9h5m61 3 роки тому +57

      but it's not the energy needed to make all those solar panels is much more than the energy they will produce in their lifetime

    • @freezerbdn8358
      @freezerbdn8358 3 роки тому +36

      They can save more than 10% by making the car lighter, don't need to use energy to build solar panel for cars

    • @carlosandleon
      @carlosandleon 3 роки тому +5

      then we would save by 10 percent as a whole

    • @a9h5m61
      @a9h5m61 3 роки тому +2

      @@freezerbdn8358 How would they melt the glass,weld, solder and whatever else goes into making solar panels

    • @evilplaguedoctor5158
      @evilplaguedoctor5158 3 роки тому +34

      @@a9h5m61 the idea that solar cells take more energy to produce then they generate over a lifetime has been debunked (I think it was something like 3 years to recoup the energy used currently, and less as manufacturing gets more effecient)
      And I think you misunderstood freezer, he was talking about saving energy used by the car, not the solar panels.

  • @andrew6846
    @andrew6846 3 роки тому +650

    My workplace is only about 7 miles from where I live so in theory, I would never have to charge my vehicle when commuting to and from work during the week. That is pretty damn spectacular.

    • @ElectricFuture
      @ElectricFuture  3 роки тому +73

      Yeah that is the winner use case rn for current tech

    • @NicholasMulvaney
      @NicholasMulvaney 3 роки тому +62

      Cycle it u bum

    • @user-uy8yt7ku4w
      @user-uy8yt7ku4w 3 роки тому +10

      *While it's summer and good weather conditions

    • @TheBeastsHere
      @TheBeastsHere 3 роки тому +13

      @@NicholasMulvaney My work is only 1.2 miles away and I still drive, but that would require me getting up 30 minutes earlier for work, considering I only get around 2 1/2 to 3 hours sleep a night I don't want any less.

    • @TChowdhury00
      @TChowdhury00 3 роки тому

      @M VariKKODAN Digital idiot

  • @last5902
    @last5902 3 роки тому +208

    Now I won't need to find parking spots under a tree.

    • @josmith2062
      @josmith2062 3 роки тому +17

      We'll all be deliberately leaving our car in the hot sun and avoiding the shade! LOL!

    • @shahrukhpenker1311
      @shahrukhpenker1311 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, but you'll probs be using that 10% to pre-cool your tesla

    • @patricknelson
      @patricknelson 2 роки тому +1

      Generally a good idea to avoid parking under trees anyway, considering the risk of bird 💩 and tree sap (at least where I live).

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 2 роки тому +1

      @@shahrukhpenker1311 perhaps a good chunk of it, but not necessarily all of it.

    • @mrxmry3264
      @mrxmry3264 2 роки тому

      @@qdpqbp or just run the fan to get rid of the heat as it builds up.

  • @gykg3202
    @gykg3202 3 роки тому +614

    What if we installed solar panels on the charging station? 💁‍♂️

    • @ancientkid1635
      @ancientkid1635 3 роки тому +66

      tesla have some like that

    • @shivakumar-bt8sw
      @shivakumar-bt8sw 3 роки тому +11

      S we can do ...we can generate a power to chargers

    • @adams_chong9450
      @adams_chong9450 3 роки тому +18

      It's already been used

    • @sreehariputhiyandy2031
      @sreehariputhiyandy2031 3 роки тому +32

      @Bb King you are wrong it's been already in use

    • @ddiver2200
      @ddiver2200 3 роки тому +11

      needed 8,000ft square of space to produce 1000000 watts per five hours a day (in market 1meter a panels produce 100 watts of power per hour) meaning that it can only charge 2 Tesla cars (450kilowatts per charger) in one day

  • @mcskifter
    @mcskifter 2 роки тому +7

    Add a solar panel to every electric car. It isn't about that being the only power source, but for the vast majority of drivers you can recoup a little power and put off doing a full charge for a few more days. Or have the same total range with a little bit smaller battery pack. However, there are a few of us that only ever park outside and drive very little that might never need a charge otherwise.

  • @manikdesign
    @manikdesign 3 роки тому +726

    We seeing this In our lifetime, how lucky are we.

    • @markreynolds9135
      @markreynolds9135 3 роки тому +37

      manikdesign Seeing a cure for Cancer or Alzheimer’s would be better.

    • @supernielsen1223
      @supernielsen1223 3 роки тому +14

      But solar panel on the Roof of a car.
      Denmark did exactly that in 1998
      With a car called connector.

    • @datmesay
      @datmesay 3 роки тому +1

      and venturi did this in the 2000s

    • @mpluspoint
      @mpluspoint 3 роки тому +2

      @@markreynolds9135 you u people always comparing? U tell me what u want ur hand or leg?

    • @travis03
      @travis03 3 роки тому

      They said that about the model T

  • @ElectricFuture
    @ElectricFuture  3 роки тому +432

    Disclaimer: This video was written by a professional automotive engineer with a masters degree in aerospace engineering and is meant as a speculative and exploratory examination of the topic. Some concepts have been condensed and simplified for brevity. This content is not sponsored or endorsed by any companies mentioned in the video. This content is not meant to serve as investment advice.

    • @JasonHe0
      @JasonHe0 3 роки тому +6

      Electric Future I wish I would have that knowledge that Elon has

    • @ElectricFuture
      @ElectricFuture  3 роки тому +35

      I wish I had the founders edition roadster with cold gas thrusters he has stashed away in his batcave.

    • @callmeslick860
      @callmeslick860 3 роки тому

      How would they make continuous money off these cars !? Building them with faulty parts.. opens up a new market for them to start producing parts separately thanks to rich they’ve accomplished that smh

    • @adonidon9898
      @adonidon9898 3 роки тому +1

      Electro Magnet is the future..

    • @guyfromdubai
      @guyfromdubai 3 роки тому +5

      @@callmeslick860 They can have their own fleet of automated taxis much like uber but cheaper since there is no cost of the driver. Also why do you think they would need to "make continuous money" off a product when they only have to make enough to cover costs and to earn some profit margin.

  • @Bryan-hs6kh
    @Bryan-hs6kh 3 роки тому +46

    The thing is electric cars tend to have a “phantom drain” where if you leave them in the sun they have to use the battery to keep the battery temperate to avoid damage. This is worse on days where it is extremely hot or cold. If it could pull from solar on hot days, that would be nice to use the solar energy to keep the battery temperate and avoid phantom drain

    • @ElectricFuture
      @ElectricFuture  3 роки тому +3

      would be nice

    • @bubbleblossom2771
      @bubbleblossom2771 2 роки тому +1

      Good thing i live where its so hot everyday like almost EVERYDAY 😅

    • @JackMott
      @JackMott 2 роки тому +4

      Teslas do not have phantom drain on hot days. Source: I have a Tesla in Austin Texas.

    • @PaulDewseth
      @PaulDewseth Рік тому +1

      search for graphene technology. it's the solution

    • @suckmyassloser3641
      @suckmyassloser3641 Рік тому

      Seems like some solar is a good idea. Some cars sit a while between drives.

  • @joseurena6549
    @joseurena6549 3 роки тому +4

    You made an excellent presentation of a topic of vital importance and that is in all the media. Excellent work!

  • @kanahn7402
    @kanahn7402 3 роки тому +664

    Getting 20 kms a day would be totally worthwhile for me. I'd probs only need to plug in once a month or so

    • @JackMott
      @JackMott 3 роки тому +44

      you would only get 20kms on sunny days when your car is parked in a place never in the shade all day, and then car would cost another 3,000? and be heavier which would hurt range a little

    • @ganador13
      @ganador13 3 роки тому +30

      @@JackMott Will solar panels on an electric vehicle result in energy profit? or breaking even? Or would the extra weight result energy debt?
      If it is a profit, of ANY kind, it will eventually and inevitably pay for itself.
      In other words, if it results in even slightly increasing the length of a charge, its good stuff man.

    • @JackMott
      @JackMott 3 роки тому +29

      @@ganador13 my take on it is whatever profit you can make by putting a solar panel on your car, you could make more by putting the panel on your roof, or in a solar farm in a sunny place instead. That way the panel is never parked under a tree, or in a garage, or an extreme lattitude with low levels of solar input. so if you make a solar panel, putting it on a car is usually not the best place to put it.

    • @egesajesse
      @egesajesse 3 роки тому +35

      I believe it should be an option. My car is parked in the sun every single day. It’s sunny here most every day. I drive about 20kms per day... and sometimes don’t move at all on weekends. Sounds like I’d be driving without charging most months.

    • @Tomoyo0827
      @Tomoyo0827 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah but you would need to pay 20% more for your car, for that amount you could charge it 5000 times

  • @wlhgmk
    @wlhgmk 3 роки тому +170

    25miles for a day in the sun is not to be sneezed at. A nice litttle bonus. For countries in the Middle East and such sunny areas it could be a winner.

    • @ramyfouad8571
      @ramyfouad8571 3 роки тому +7

      the cost to benefit ratio / efficiency is still not practical

    • @roj30001
      @roj30001 3 роки тому +3

      Some people only drive that much a day so it has benefits

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 3 роки тому +19

      @@ramyfouad8571 if you only drive about 25 miles a day its pretty much free driving i only drive about 10 miles to work and 10 miles back home that means i never have to plug it in

    • @MrAntidodo
      @MrAntidodo 3 роки тому +5

      @@patthonsirilim5739 if you live in a city with a home without parking and relay on public charging this would be so much more confident you only have to think about charging when going on long trips or after some days of bad weather.

    • @dwaneanderson8039
      @dwaneanderson8039 3 роки тому +4

      @@ramyfouad8571 Depends on the cost. Solar cells have gotten really cheap lately, and could become even cheaper in the near future.

  • @Username-ld7ho
    @Username-ld7ho 2 роки тому +5

    I really hope this works. And it would also be really cool if they managed to also use the friction of the tire rotors to create energy, and if they added a second large battery somehow, while that one is charging, you could drive on the other one. Even if I don’t get a front trunk, it would be awesome to have a battery stored it there.

  • @owenwhite4879
    @owenwhite4879 3 роки тому +4

    My house is gonna be covered in solar panels, have solar windows, solar car, solar phones, and an electricity producing gym for my neighborhood. The technology isn’t the best now but when I’m an adult with a family in maybe 15 years, this dream may come true. UNLIMITED POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @arizonamediaservice7444
    @arizonamediaservice7444 3 роки тому +147

    This is like a funny dejavu...When I moved to the Arizona Desert in 1980, I realized after about one year, that this area of the world must have over 350 sunny days...LOL...I remember sitting on my desk and sketching a Porsche (I'm German) with a solar panel skin...roof, sides...trunk....hood. In those days solar panels for regular people was like scifi.....amazing how far we've come...makes me feel like 100 years old already...LOL

    • @michaelbrinks8089
      @michaelbrinks8089 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, Iv'e thought of solar panels and slide out solar panels for cars and RV's (like at 0:04) years before they actually starting doing it....(same with solar recharging lanterns/flashlights) Have some on the roof and hood that get sunlight all the time. Then when you're parked in the sun, the slide out solar panels would open. Not only helping to recharge your car but also keeping it in the shade to stay cooler.

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 2 роки тому +1

      @@michaelbrinks8089 That style of system would be pretty much ideal for an RV and wouldn't be too hard to DIY

  • @Kerbal18
    @Kerbal18 3 роки тому +73

    I like how the description is literally just the script

  • @epeli0035
    @epeli0035 3 роки тому +28

    England has left the chat

  • @tomkelly8827
    @tomkelly8827 3 роки тому +17

    Wow! This was a really well researched video! Just as I was about to add something to the conversation, you did it first! Well done, I even learned more then I had known before. Well done!
    Yes, I am really looking forward to the whole body of the car being strong, safe, inexpensive, recyclable, efficient solare energy producers that rarely need external charging, only for long weekend trips. Electric cars have a bright future, as do we humans

  • @timis200
    @timis200 3 роки тому +51

    Let's take a moment to appreciate quality, time and research it took to make it. Good job!

  • @richardowens9061
    @richardowens9061 3 роки тому +165

    Solar enhanced vehicles are more likely to be a practical option for those who generally travel short distances intermittently. A great example of this type of vehicle is a solar enhanced golf cart - and, those are increasing in popularity every year. A solar enhanced Nissan Leaf, for example, would be a great option for someone who commutes to and from work or school no more than five to ten miles per day. Such an application could be nearly 100% self-sustainable by solar power, alone.

    • @5ch4cht3l7
      @5ch4cht3l7 3 роки тому +5

      It would work, but a stationary solar panel on your roof could still work better. You'd need a battery for the whole commute in the car anyways and excess energy created from your home could be used otherwise

    • @davidc2838
      @davidc2838 3 роки тому +3

      Solar enhanced vehicles will become the norm as the price of solar becomes lower and the efficiencies increase. At millions of units per year, this becomes way less expensive and more efficient.

    • @gregoryflinn3577
      @gregoryflinn3577 3 роки тому +1

      For only a few miles a day then the vehicle should be reconfigured - there is no point in lugging a 300kg, 400km range battery around for that purpose. E.g. a hybrid but WITHOUT the engine. If the vehicle needs to retain long-range capability, then the solar approach ceases to make sense compared to other options.

    • @shinjisan2015
      @shinjisan2015 3 роки тому +1

      This is an excellent option for commuters to bypass the bus routes, instead drive to the nearest mass transit (train/tram) station where the car will be parked all day recharging from the Sun.

    • @s.i.m.c.a
      @s.i.m.c.a 3 роки тому

      solar-powered vehicles are practical; only for those who life nearby an equator , for the rest of the world - it is decreased efficiency all the time except summer + cloudy days + decreased efficiency of solar panels + solar cells degradation + dust on them.....

  • @ravebrain
    @ravebrain 3 роки тому +18

    i live in australia and honestly solar panel cars would be amazing here most of us park outside and its almost constantly sunny. also if i get my ass stuck on an outback road where i may have to wait literally a day for a tow this would be massively helpfull

    • @mortensenvick5711
      @mortensenvick5711 2 роки тому +1

      What a shame there is no national car industry in Australia anymore. Should start a new company from 0 with an idea like that

  • @hi_im_crimson
    @hi_im_crimson 2 роки тому +3

    watching these kinds of videos surely boosts my happiness since it makes me feel like people are still working on a solution for our demise

  • @stizandelasage
    @stizandelasage 3 роки тому +47

    solar panels are a great way to maintain the batteries and extend the life of the battery

  • @mr.nobody5251
    @mr.nobody5251 3 роки тому +411

    Friend : were stuck in the desert man and the car ran out of Fuel
    Me : no problem man. Proceeds to switch to solar panels. Now.... we wait.

  • @Sheridantank
    @Sheridantank 2 роки тому +1

    That Cybertruck animation at the beginning is the coolest thing I could imagine vehicle wise.

  • @polluxx1
    @polluxx1 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing research! Thanks

  • @kilgary
    @kilgary 3 роки тому +87

    Being able to charge 30 miles per day would make solar cars a perfect commuter option. I’d gladly park my car outdoors if it meant free charging. For now, I’ll charge with my home solar.

    • @mixup2216
      @mixup2216 3 роки тому +2

      But why not just have them on your roof and plug your car in your garage

    • @thelight3112
      @thelight3112 3 роки тому +5

      @@mixup2216 because you could have them on your roof *and* on your car.

    • @Leicht_Sinn
      @Leicht_Sinn 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@thelight3112 and litterly pay way more for the same power you can get from your solar roof
      if you have like 400+ range 0-15 miles more won't be necessery

    • @gamechannel1271
      @gamechannel1271 3 роки тому +1

      Parking your car outside is how you fuck up your paint job, and possibly get hail damage depending on where you live. Best to charge it from your garage.

    • @TsLeng
      @TsLeng 3 роки тому

      At 25% efficiency, that surface area will net about 0.5kW at its best. Will it make 7kWh a day? No chance

  • @shimoorek
    @shimoorek 3 роки тому +76

    Toyota Prius here in Japan uses solar panels on their cars.

    • @shimoorek
      @shimoorek 3 роки тому +22

      Living here after visiting. I was here because of the military.

    • @shimoorek
      @shimoorek 3 роки тому +4

      CHARLES SCOTT Mainland

    • @marcsmythyn2628
      @marcsmythyn2628 3 роки тому +1

      Doesn't it only work to cool the car or something? Saw that when we were there. I thought they were hiding a solar car lol.

    • @seekfactsnotfiction9056
      @seekfactsnotfiction9056 3 роки тому +2

      @@marcsmythyn2628 yeah that is just a solar ventilation fan that comes with Prius as an optional feature (cost about $3,800) which doesn't really make any big difference. I would instead utilise remote key to start and cool off the car before i get in during summer when parked under the hot sun.

    • @marcsmythyn2628
      @marcsmythyn2628 3 роки тому

      @@shimoorek That's pretty cool and expensive! You've tried the soul food restaurant owned by I think a former US Vet too?

  • @rjbjr
    @rjbjr 3 роки тому +2

    Here are three uses for a relatively small solar array on your car, van, truck, etc.:
    1. Most new cars have vampire circuits, and a small charger could keep your battery topped off;
    2. Batteries need to stay warm in cold weather, and a small heater could do that during the day;
    3. To keep your interior relatively cool on a hot day you could run a small ventilation fan.

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 2 роки тому +1

      And these things are applicable to just about every vehicle.

  • @ChasingDifferentAdventures
    @ChasingDifferentAdventures 3 роки тому

    Long road trips would be great to extend some distance, though, I still like the Cyber Truck, and it's solar panel is an awesome option, Great content it is a great collection of good footage, just bumped into this recommendation and subscribed to your channel

  • @Jozlek1
    @Jozlek1 3 роки тому +7

    This is so nice and quality work. Good job guys!

  • @labzee7855
    @labzee7855 3 роки тому +21

    i had this thought yesterday then boom it shows up in my recommended

    • @robertlee8805
      @robertlee8805 3 роки тому +4

      Google is reading your mind. I had the same experience. Would that be cool? Maybe but definitely would be an issue of privacy. But then when we imagine something and pops UA-cam videos or search topic on our phones. 1st we must get our environment cleaned up, then keep it clean, then provide clean energy that's useful to everybody no matter if you're rich or poor, then we can figure out the other problems.

    • @chinabluewho
      @chinabluewho 3 роки тому +1

      The Hyundai Sonata already has solar panels on the roof and gets about 3 miles a day of the panels, I live close enough to work that I could use this vehicle and never buy another tank of gas or need to plug it in .

  • @Iceflkn
    @Iceflkn 3 роки тому +8

    I'd like to see solar cells in a vehicle to power, at some capacity, the A/C in the summer and heat in the winter (if not covered in dust or snow) to keep the interior temp at a more comfortable level.

  • @Honnenik
    @Honnenik 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this video!

  • @woodstoney
    @woodstoney 3 роки тому +31

    The future of solar looks bright! ;)

  • @gj1234567899999
    @gj1234567899999 3 роки тому +6

    Imagine a post apocalyptic scenario. No gas and no electricity. Having your car go 10-20 miles a day though it’s own solar power similar to a covered wagon back in the day isn’t that bad. Still useful.

  • @adr2t
    @adr2t 9 місяців тому

    The thing is - unless you drive that many miles, you still have an 8 hr time frame to let it charge. Lots of people drive to work, let their car sit there, and then drive back home or maybe hit the store adding a few miles - but that would be well with in that solar array. There is also the chance we will see a 50% solar panel soon by converting/upscaling IR light (that makes up 55% of the light that hits) into visualable light that can be also used soon. Granted, this video was 3 years ago, I am just adding that we're nearing a level that might actually work to add some value over all for the average user.

  • @TheNewAccount2008
    @TheNewAccount2008 3 роки тому +13

    I would love to see that on my Tesla. After all, the car sometimes just sits in the open for days, which would lead up to full charges...

  • @neovonterra4027
    @neovonterra4027 3 роки тому +5

    This idea is awesome! Many people who live in (european) citys do not need more than 20 km a day. and even if you need 50 km a day you only have to charge the battery half as often. And in an emergency, when the power goes out evrywhere, your car has power.

    • @chrisidema
      @chrisidema 2 роки тому

      And many people in European cities commute by bike or public transportation so a $170000 solar car will unlikely catch on.
      A modern diesel has lower emissions than an electric car so I don't see the need for it for environmental reasons.

  • @lovewilliams4500
    @lovewilliams4500 3 роки тому +5

    I've been waiting for solar panels on cars. I knew it would and should come to fruition one day. I would like to see them on apartments one day.

  • @jalils.5384
    @jalils.5384 3 роки тому +9

    Aptera has the best aerodynamic design with no need for charging for normal use

  • @Schreibtisch1
    @Schreibtisch1 3 роки тому

    Great work, thanks for the video.

  • @wolfsden6479
    @wolfsden6479 3 роки тому +29

    Its best effect is, removing the dead electronic car issue.

    • @josmith2062
      @josmith2062 3 роки тому +1

      Yep, those 3 people who die every year by driving across Australia on some remote road and running out of gas will be saved!

    • @wolfsden6479
      @wolfsden6479 3 роки тому +1

      @@josmith2062 lol, it more like there isn't a good alternative to a gas can for electric cars, so electric cars are stuck somewhere until they are towed. With solar the car can slowly charge until it has enough to get to a full blown charger.

  • @PH1M0
    @PH1M0 3 роки тому +3

    See thru solar glass is very interesting! 👍

  • @remoteportal
    @remoteportal 2 роки тому

    Lots of good info in here!

  • @eugeneeugenio7075
    @eugeneeugenio7075 3 роки тому

    Very nice ideas... Environmentally friendly cars... Electric car installed with Solar Panels... I suggest that in order to add efficiency to the car, wheels can be converted also into an Individual Alternators that will charge batteries while on the run adding more charge other than the installed Solar Panels...

  • @clementevaldespino8797
    @clementevaldespino8797 3 роки тому +3

    I live in Texas where it's known for being sunny most of the year. This could be life changing when the price is reduced for the masses. CAN'T WAIT

  • @cookies99p66
    @cookies99p66 3 роки тому +64

    Solar panels actually do work when it's cloudy.

    • @MrLiquidxIce
      @MrLiquidxIce 3 роки тому +15

      Yes but only generating 8% of there output

    • @45kph
      @45kph 3 роки тому +12

      @@MrLiquidxIce no, my 1kw panels still put out 500 watts under some clouds

  • @yugalkishore7249
    @yugalkishore7249 3 роки тому +4

    i had thought about doing this
    but its already being implemented

  • @AClark-gs5gl
    @AClark-gs5gl 2 роки тому

    I too want to implement the use of solar panels on an all new electric propulsion system I am working on for General Aviation use.
    Goal is to apply to upper surfaces of the proof of concept airframe and possibly include retractable lightweight panels into the fuselage.

  • @dr.zoidberg8666
    @dr.zoidberg8666 3 роки тому +47

    Last year a multi-junction solar cell achieved 47.1% efficiency in the lab. We could easily see similar technology become commercially available within the next 10 years or so. Imagine with such a solar roof & solar car, you'd never have to pay for electricity again.

    • @michaelkeudel8770
      @michaelkeudel8770 3 роки тому

      www.popularmechanics.com/science/a32202373/solar-panel-record-efficiency/

    • @brynleytalbot778
      @brynleytalbot778 3 роки тому +1

      What's the betting that some hitherto unseen issue crops up, like the company being snapped up by a major power supplier, naturally to enhance its green culture, but realistically to bury it.

    • @michaelkeudel8770
      @michaelkeudel8770 3 роки тому +1

      @@brynleytalbot778 doubtful that anyone can snatch up National Renewable Energy Laboratory, since it's a government entity.

    • @rollandelliott
      @rollandelliott 3 роки тому

      WRONG. that was using mirrors to concentrate light on it. Which causes the solar cell to overheat and die faster. Read the article before you spout mis leading info.

    • @rollandelliott
      @rollandelliott 3 роки тому

      those multijunction solar cells cost 300x more than conventional cells too. you can buy them on ebay for about 100x more if that suits your budget.

  • @FreeminderXIII
    @FreeminderXIII 3 роки тому +24

    Scientists managed to push the efficiency to almost 40%, so in the future it would be a very useful thing to install if it added extra 50km to your trips especially in sunny places.

  • @stevemickler452
    @stevemickler452 2 роки тому

    in areas with usually clear weather; CSP may be used. I imagine an array of small mirrors targeting a pole mounted solar cell array. These cells can exceed 40% efficiency and 900 Suns. The mirrors track the Sun so will gather more solar than a flat solar cell panel. I pitched a similar idea for solar racing years ago but it was precluded by the rules and expense of the cells at that time.

  • @marcmichaelheihspsychology
    @marcmichaelheihspsychology 3 роки тому +3

    Finally somebody answered my question if solar panels make sense on a tesla. Thank you!

    • @RY-dy3ph
      @RY-dy3ph 3 роки тому

      I read somewhere that the paint on a house can generate electricity. Why cant it do it on a car?

  • @youxkio
    @youxkio 3 роки тому +10

    9:46 perfect for me. I only make around 6500kms / year here in Taiwan where we have plenty of sunshine.

    • @toobalkain
      @toobalkain 3 роки тому

      sure, but early next week you may be invaded by China and hauled off to a gulag, who's gonna take care of the car then?

    • @youxkio
      @youxkio 3 роки тому

      @@toobalkain For them to take Taiwan, they still have to drink a lot of mama's milk.

    • @toobalkain
      @toobalkain 3 роки тому +1

      @@youxkio OK, just make sure not to join the long list of countries that counted on US to fight their wars, only Israel gets that privilege.

    • @youxkio
      @youxkio 3 роки тому

      @@toobalkain How to join other countries? Taiwan was expelled from UN in 1971! However, we can only count on the US because they have common interests in the West Pacific and South China Sea. Israel keeps on Middle East. Taiwan Keeps Pacific and South China Sea. Good job mate.

    • @toobalkain
      @toobalkain 3 роки тому

      @@youxkio And you think US won't sell you down the river in exchange for China turning a blind eye somewhere else? You really think they'll start WW3 over Taiwan? Think again. They might, but it's a 1 in 1.000 chance, you'd probably be better off ganging up with other Asian countries against China, other countries with a stake in the South China Sea and Japan.

  • @fryeguy7109
    @fryeguy7109 3 роки тому

    or some small drag for wind energy mechanics and also momentum mechanics inside the car, oh and dont forget pressure from the breaks or the acceleration of the vehicle

  • @gregripp
    @gregripp 2 роки тому

    For a fairly low cost I think a small solar charging/desulfating system for the 12 volt lead acid battery in all cars makes sense given that contemporary vehicles use more electric power for non-propulsion systems than ever and will prolong the lifespan of the 12V lead acid battery.

  • @bkrider19
    @bkrider19 3 роки тому +9

    On cloudy days 80% of the sun's energy still reaches the earth's surface. Elon stated this in an interview in the UK last year. So even on cloudy days your car's solar panels will still be doing a great deal of work.

    • @tasa4904
      @tasa4904 3 роки тому

      Unfortunately, the energy that penetrates cloud cover is infrared. Solar panels can pick up some of that spectrum, but only a small part of it and still not very efficiently. I'd say that, in this case, you'd be lucky to get 5% efficiency with the current solar cells.

    • @bkrider19
      @bkrider19 3 роки тому +2

      @@tasa4904 Thanks for this clarification. 1. Researchers are working on capturing energy from nonvisible light: www.euronews.com/living/2020/07/21/invisible-light-can-now-be-harnessed-for-solar-power
      2. Current tech gives us about 10-25% on cloudy days according to this article: cleantechnica.com/2018/02/08/solar-panels-work-cloudy-days-just-less-effectively/
      3. Conclusions: a) the more research and development work we put into solar energy, the higher the efficiency in both visible and nonvisible spectra; b) eventually, as with problems in other originally crude technologies, this will be solved.

  • @thenoobplayer911
    @thenoobplayer911 3 роки тому +3

    learned a lot, I got an Idea for my thesis hahaha thanks

  • @frankyang5657
    @frankyang5657 Рік тому +2

    Why we need to get all the energy from the sun? Solar energy can be deemed as supplimentary power, as to add some milage , to deal with power consumption besides running such as air conditioning, and listen to music. And the most of all, in the ergent situation such as running all out of power in the way, the solar power can let you go further after a few hours of shinning sun. Thus get you to the next power station, and release you from milage panic. Another benefit is to save your battery to avoid being totally empty which will kill your battery simultaneously. As for me, I wish my car has solar system in it.

  • @davidwrather5306
    @davidwrather5306 2 роки тому

    I liked your well researched article, but at minute 9:00 you mentioned that drag has a direct proportion to the cube of speed; however, the relationship is still significant but to the square of velocity.

  • @romainhedouin
    @romainhedouin 3 роки тому +115

    Just give me 50W of solar, just to compensate for phantom drain, and I'm a happy guy

    • @PappaMustafa
      @PappaMustafa 3 роки тому +12

      Phantom Drain sounds like when a guy comes to fast lol....But yea i agree.

    • @romainhedouin
      @romainhedouin 3 роки тому +3

      @@PappaMustafa 😂

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 3 роки тому +1

      or just fix the phantom drain, an auxiliary computer system would be sensible, the more Tesla's there are on the road the more significant this problem.

    • @romainhedouin
      @romainhedouin 3 роки тому +2

      @@edc1569 yeah Tesla could clearly drain way less battery if they had a low power, small auxiliary computer...
      They couldn't drain 0 energy though, so I maintain my wish to have solar on the order of 50W

    • @71kimg
      @71kimg 3 роки тому

      the cost/benefit should just be there - that constant talk about "sun to drive the car" in absolute terms when talking about solar on cars - is almost to tin-foil territory. A video about it shouldnt be like this one. its should be about cost (price/weight/ design-look) versus benefits (kwh added / less to no vampire drain / battery life / range added ect) - its a bit like having a 100 kw solar panel on a house - which can only fully power some odd houses - but that isnt the point.

  • @godvsevolutionmythgodvsevo1038
    @godvsevolutionmythgodvsevo1038 3 роки тому +3

    Great content

  • @benkavoosi
    @benkavoosi Рік тому

    if you look at how many active/moving vehicles are out on the road during daylight and if most of them have solar panels - yes, it might not be much for the individual vehicle, but it could unload a pretty big chunk of on the grid recharging hours. which is a looming problem we are heading to as we move away from oil and rely more on electricity.

  • @Onkarr
    @Onkarr 3 роки тому +1

    1:36 this bodykit looks nice!

  • @slidewaze
    @slidewaze 3 роки тому +12

    Would be helpful to eliminate phantom drain while parked for two weeks in long term (normally uncovered) parking at the airport.

    • @chivo_gaming
      @chivo_gaming 3 роки тому +1

      Or when I'm at my mom's house...she can talk for HOURS....jeewiz lady...don't you need to take a nap!!???

    • @Sgt_Glory
      @Sgt_Glory 3 роки тому

      It would be also very useful for people who live in apartment or condo buildings where their building may have a communal charger for all resident's use, but can't have one at your parking space. In the dead of winter, the battery heater needs to run, and when it's not plugged in, that results in noticeable phantom drain.

  • @redhonu
    @redhonu 3 роки тому +5

    Even a small solar roof, would be cool, as it counteract "fantom drain" and maybe even power the whole AC system.

    • @Schreibtisch1
      @Schreibtisch1 3 роки тому

      I think the 3rd gen Toyota Prius has this since 2010. The newer generation has a solar roof which can also power the hybrid battery.

  • @naheiralazar6869
    @naheiralazar6869 3 роки тому

    This really amazing I was thinking samething before two years

  • @sanakiyamam1987
    @sanakiyamam1987 2 роки тому

    a foltable solar panel in a form of big suitcase for the trunk to go is the solution. you press a button and the suitcase folts open the many solar panels and it gets very big when it folted (open)

  • @JerryDLTN
    @JerryDLTN 3 роки тому +50

    Those with no garage and those that don't have a roof of their own (a condo) could benefit from an EV with PVs on the car

    • @markreynolds9135
      @markreynolds9135 3 роки тому +1

      Jerry Lifsey Ah yes, the infamous Petite Vultures (PV) on a car would be awesome. There ability to eat rotting meat and flap their wings to increase lift is tremendous. 😂

    • @Daniela-pr7rz
      @Daniela-pr7rz 3 роки тому +3

      Those that used up all their battery and no charger in sight, you can just leave your car in the sun for a while and get enough to get to the next charger

    • @sunsetlights100
      @sunsetlights100 3 роки тому

      @@Daniela-pr7rz did u see the tesla cyber truck with the solar panel array!

    • @Daniela-pr7rz
      @Daniela-pr7rz 3 роки тому

      @@sunsetlights100 Yes, that's probably the unusual design, they sacrificed the horizontal roof.

  • @TheFalladin
    @TheFalladin 3 роки тому +3

    Can't wait for swedish winter! For about 1 month we don't even see the sun up here :D

  • @KingLarbear
    @KingLarbear 2 роки тому

    Holy cow that foldable array is something that I said in my comment before watching and it was there... and why not have it maybe twice is big ad they showed, that would be dope

  • @jaurybeltraoengers5986
    @jaurybeltraoengers5986 2 роки тому

    I was born in Palmas, a city on the state of Tocantins, Brazil, that place is basically a solar panel's dream, it's summer all year long... A car like that would be amazing there.

  • @aberdeenmeadows
    @aberdeenmeadows 3 роки тому +4

    Interesting video and thankful you did the math. That eased my mind and I can see this at some point working well for commuter cars. Any little bit well help but intending that breakthroughs keep coming and that within five years, it will be very, very possible to have electric cars with solar capability as well. I think by then, the new term will be "On a Sunny day, I can drive 450 miles and cloudy, eh about 380".

  • @OfMiceAndMegabytes
    @OfMiceAndMegabytes 3 роки тому +11

    Solar+EVs= A healthy, happy world. One can only hope this becomes a reality.

  • @cyndiharrington1751
    @cyndiharrington1751 3 роки тому

    That's cool on the truck... With the expandable solar panels

  • @premkumarnayak1311
    @premkumarnayak1311 2 роки тому

    Thanks for nice video.

  • @SunilNair
    @SunilNair 3 роки тому +7

    1:48 "comparable conventional electric car" caught me

  • @KevinGarcia-nv6rx
    @KevinGarcia-nv6rx 3 роки тому +6

    He seen “honey, I blew up the kids too many times” 😂😂

  • @santoshmestry9594
    @santoshmestry9594 3 роки тому

    Nice Infomation.....future technology...

  • @alkhan5445
    @alkhan5445 3 роки тому

    I think it’s worth it, but on doors as well as frunk. The big advantage is if you’re further away from a wall plug than your remaining range. It could make a difference.

  • @WhiteWolfos
    @WhiteWolfos 3 роки тому +7

    40 miles from solar is optimistic, however even 30 miles per day is a big win. Why? The average person who commutes drives around 29 miles a day.
    This means that on average you won't have to plug in your car during sunny days!
    If a version of the car was focused on lightweight then it would go further.
    I think the car that has it down currently with 1k mile range is the Aptera.

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 2 роки тому +1

      1000 miles if range is awesome, but it is so much more than I, or most people need that I would just get their smallest battery pack option with AWD and the upgraded speaker option if I had the money and call it good.

  • @erikkovacs3097
    @erikkovacs3097 3 роки тому +6

    Solar panels need direct sunlight. You'd have to be parked in the sun in an open field to get the full benefit. You'll get slim to nothing in the city.

  • @lifecelebrators1213
    @lifecelebrators1213 3 роки тому

    Will it possible to set many drums shape wind turbines on the rooftops of car? Including soller panels??could it generate efficient power?

  • @toenytv7946
    @toenytv7946 2 роки тому

    Great job.

  • @salardizayee2503
    @salardizayee2503 3 роки тому +7

    These thoughts were in my head and I was 15 years old and now I am 24 years old I did not realize and one of them is the reason because I was born in a country called Iraq, the country that did not support me in order to fulfill my dreams, damn☺️💔

  • @natemac8473
    @natemac8473 3 роки тому +3

    In the long run, 5% or even 1-2% of battery life per day could add up over the years. Depending on the price of electricity.

  • @eduardobueno2208
    @eduardobueno2208 3 роки тому

    Is it possible to add a motor/generator as a wind mil to power the batteries when moving?

  • @mahmoodshaikh2606
    @mahmoodshaikh2606 3 роки тому +2

    Magnifying Fennel lenses can focus the concentrated sun's energy on semiconductor s to capture more energy on roof of a car having less surface area offering more than 60% of efficiency per meter square.
    I am The same person who suggested Syn-RM Motors for Tesla's car about 3years ago and eventually they did went on with it in 2019

  • @mcstaal
    @mcstaal 3 роки тому +4

    Fine if the solar panels can make enough energy, to keep the car cool when parked in direct sunlight.
    It would save the aircondition from using a lot of batteripower when you drive off.

  • @gospelofthomas77thpearl22
    @gospelofthomas77thpearl22 3 роки тому +5

    G’day from Australia! Glad you mentioned the solar race. I’ve ordered the Cybertruck & am hoping to get the solar panel cover option. 🤠👍🏼

    • @thereaction18
      @thereaction18 3 роки тому

      Elon is getting rich off of your gullibility.

    • @TJ-nt3tw
      @TJ-nt3tw 3 роки тому

      Good man you know it make sense. Peace

    • @gospelofthomas77thpearl22
      @gospelofthomas77thpearl22 3 роки тому

      @@thereaction18 Musk is not a talker like so many other manufacturers - he is a doer. He may be the only hope for the human species. If most vehicles in the world are electric it may stop global warming. And don’t tell me that’s not true - I lived through the Australian bush fires last year. NEVER have almost all of the forests in New South Wales burnt down. Last year they did. Billions of wild life killed. Thousands of houses destroyed.

    • @thereaction18
      @thereaction18 3 роки тому

      @@gospelofthomas77thpearl22 You are such a sucker for hype. Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax. They are selling snake oil. They convince you of imaginary problems and sell you imaginary solutions. What a patsy. Try doing some math and science. Measure the amount of energy from sunlight per square meter. They pulled a kilowatt per square meter directly out of their ass and you swallowed it. Look at the efficiencies of energy conversion. If you think 7 miles range to a full day's charge on a good day is a good tradeoff, good luck with that.

    • @narzaust
      @narzaust 3 роки тому

      That was years ago. Electric cars are so weird.

  • @A.R.77
    @A.R.77 2 місяці тому

    A small and very efficient diesel or gas generator could be used as a fix for just about all the current shortcomings of the Tesla charging issues. It's super important to have reliable transportation no matter what it is. For a few extra grand and a couple gallons of diesel, the car could be comfortably charged and/or run directly off the generators power. This tech is currently used for our trains and ferries in the U.S. I could see making it an aftermarket installation kit. The tech for all of this is currently available and would require little change to the current setup. The generator would live completely separate of the onboard computer for ease of installation. It would just get the voltage it needs to charge during the whatever charge time you feel like. As the generator can run at a constant RPM, it can be made very efficient and quiet.

  • @cynthiaharrington7809
    @cynthiaharrington7809 3 роки тому

    It's about time..I told you to do this 2 years ago...

  • @2g1c69
    @2g1c69 3 роки тому +3

    Hey man, what are your thoughts on aptera? Would love to see a video!

  • @gusguz_gaming8342
    @gusguz_gaming8342 3 роки тому +6

    Here is an idea: instead of a trunk in the back of the car there is a foldable solar array and the rest stop on the highway have an add on that panel on the car and it extends to make a fully sustained and pollution-free car that will take you at least 600 if you are taking 5 stops at 5 different resting stop or,” gas station, ” the area would be 60 meters when connected with an extra panel at the resting stop or gas stations but that pretty big though 😆. Using the calculations of the video
    They edit is for spelling corrections lol

    • @nolyisaac1295
      @nolyisaac1295 3 роки тому

      Bc

    • @rollandelliott
      @rollandelliott 3 роки тому +1

      i got a better idea, get rid of highways, big parking lots and the asphalt jungle. have people ride bikes and walk more since everything is closer together. See countires like Vietnam that do this. no 300-400 lb people walking around either.

    • @seven3140
      @seven3140 3 роки тому +2

      was that the joke, because you made a mistake in the same sentence where you said "spelling corrections" lol

    • @FreshKicks4545
      @FreshKicks4545 3 роки тому

      There's a company that wants to add adaptable sun roofs. Hopefully Tesla works with them.

    • @skygge1006
      @skygge1006 3 роки тому

      Rolland Elliott that would never happen so this is the best countries like America can do

  • @taylorjohnson4943
    @taylorjohnson4943 3 роки тому

    Yes the cyber truck with the fold-out solar panels 🤙

  • @lazziebardakos2956
    @lazziebardakos2956 3 роки тому +1

    I think they'd be a great addition for hybrids and plug in hybrids

  • @T4Van-E-daycamp
    @T4Van-E-daycamp 3 роки тому +26

    Electric Energy is the future. And the right combination can make it viable for everyone not just the rich.

    • @brynleytalbot778
      @brynleytalbot778 3 роки тому +2

      Jolly Roger Basically free power but you need to significantly increase the profit on the technology to maintain a replacement return to the overall economy. I'm afraid that if it were so important to change then the technology would be practically free to ensure a fast adoption. It's still a public virtue display exercise rather than a concerted effort to replace all fossil fuels. The only true energy future is to significantly reduce our Western addiction to technology and thereby reduce all energy use thus presenting a new world to everyone. It's said that cloud computing storage facilities drain 20% of the world's electricity. It's high time we reassessed our lives and the impact progress is having on our world.

    • @robertnicholls9917
      @robertnicholls9917 3 роки тому

      Killing kids in Bolivia and Afghanistan to get lithium is not a future I want.
      The greed factor is a hindrance to any viable solution to problems we face. We just skip to the next destructive idea rather than solve problems.

    • @davidc2838
      @davidc2838 3 роки тому +1

      @@brynleytalbot778 A single year's worth of expenditures on Fossil Fuels would enable the replacement of all FF's by Solar / Wind / Renewables & Battery storage.
      This is mostly a matter of the WILL to do so...and not allowing Fossil Fuel Lobbyists to "bribe" politicians with PACs and campaign donations.
      Fossil Fuel still dominates a large portion of the political landscape through power and influence. It's literally a matter of making the commitment to replacing it.
      It's heading that way...but still moving way slower than it should.
      Cheers!

    • @brynleytalbot778
      @brynleytalbot778 3 роки тому

      David C On bribes the oil industry when Obama was in power spent less in five years, I believe, than was frittered away on a green power scheme Obama backed just before the company went bankrupt, taking billions of dollars with it. The Al Gore campaign attracted hysterical followers but hasn't embraced balanced scientific research into the phenomenon. Anyone with enough cash and political clout can validate their theory but if it's just an emotive scrap we can't ascertain the truth about the situation. Fossil fuels in conjunction with green energy may well be our best strategy. A balance till the greener alternative is established as environmentally compliant. Green energy is already producing infrastructure that's not immediately recyclable so it's not wholly green - fibreglass turbine blades being buried in the desert in America. When green energy is stripped of the green economy label then it may be something worth pursuing. At the moment it's just another growth economy mission to increase Western commercial interests. Free of that bias, and free of lobbying fossil fuels bias, we could analyse unemotionally and find the most harmonious path to our growing energy wants. Or, if good sense prevails, reduce our energy consumption, especially in the mythical cloud computing world where 20% of all electrical power is consumed. Changing Western lifestyles will do more than becoming greener to maintain the illusion of economic growth being some perpetual energy machine that has no limits. Less means more for everyone. That's a green philosophy.

    • @davidc2838
      @davidc2838 3 роки тому

      @@brynleytalbot778 Hi Brynley, I'm all for "Reduce, Reuse, Renewable". I don't own a car anymore and have shirts, clothes, etc. that are years (or decades) old in many cases...no "fast fashion" for me.
      OIL is absolutely the worst. Coal is dirtier but OIL causes / is the excuse for many modern wars, going back to at least WW2 (Japan attacks US, because cut off from OIL). The US Government (and many others) start wars over OIL / other FFs and it's not even close to how Many, MANY TRILLIONS have been spent mucking around in the Middle East and other parts of the world over OIL.
      OIL Dominance has to end...and the sooner it does...the more it makes up for any costs that are needed to get the human race onto renewables...PRIMARILY Solar + Batteries / Storage of Sustainable Energy. It's not even close how ridiculous we are as humans to continue to fight wars over resources like OIL, when the answer IS in fact shining its light on us nearly ever single day. While I agree with you whole heartedly, that we / they need to do WAY better with manufacturing / disposal / Recycling of energy production for renewables...Fossil Fuels are a death sentence for the human race.
      Solar is easily the greatest source of energy in the ENTIRE SOLARE SYSTEM. It keeps our tiny planet from freezing to just above absolute zero. All of the fossil fuels in the world could NOT stop the earth and all life on earth, from freezing if we did not have the SUN. It is absolutely a matter of math, science, engineering AND recycling / minimization of the materials to create solar energy.
      I'm all for reduction in unnecessary lifestyles...I have reduced mine by about 80%+ estimated...but humans are also not going back to living in caves or even 100% in log cabins. There are solutions and FF's are NOT part of that future for more than a few decades more, assuming we move to renewables + storage with great resolve. Do the big corporate interests need to be reigned in for creating excessive waste?? YEP! Burning Coal, Oil and Nat Gas need to go away within the next 50 years...period.
      Cheers and have a wonderful weekend!