Warrior within is actually my favourite out of all of them. I think the tone change and character change is explained well with the story. Its really well made. I love all 3 games but WW was just so great. The semi open world was great and the Atmosphere was absolutely beautiful
the tension, the music, the darkest atmosphere, ww is almost perfect, being limited only by technology, imagine such a game being made without the limitations of the time, it's basically a wet dream for the fans
@@mapacherojo8475 for sure. It was amazing. The music is wayyyyy too good. I still listen to the album. Atmosphere was great. I think people oversimplify it by saying its "emo prince". But i think it was done properly. Like there was a good reason for it to happen. He had been on the run for so long and he was scared of the dahaka. So he was filled with rage as well and wanted to just be done with all that. The story was actually really good and very well made. The level design was absolutely amazing. Watching the same places in past and present was really fun. Hopefully if they do remake prince of persia sands of time, and it goes well and they go on to remake warrior within, i hope they keep it faithful to source material and keep the same type of music as well. An issue with newer games is that they focus way to much on orchestras. They're amazing. But some games are just made for rock and metal, like doom.
I played it way back in school a couple of years after it released. Loved every minute of it. And back then, playing games with your friends didn't mean playing online. It meant we'd physically meet up at the house of the guy who had the best console or PC and fire up a game and take turns playing it, seeing who could get past the hard parts. The old school combo mechanic would be interesting to revisit. It felt very smooth and organic compared to the preset finisher animations we have today. And the atmosphere of that game was just brilliant.
@@lamenamethefirst the combat is something that i really miss nowadays. That sort of sombat system, the flow of the combos, the amount of moves . It was crazy .way ahead of its time. The semi open world was great, even though it was fairly linear in progression. The secrets were great. The dahaka was such a well made enemy in the game. Every single chase scene was so scary and it was really satisfying to pull of the escapes. I played it back on the ps2 when it came out. And it blew my mind. I kept revisiting the game every year or so and then playing it on pc and psp when i got those. And it never ceased to amaze me. It was fun throughout and i think it holds up very well. Infact the whole trilogy holds up really really well. I could easily recommend it to a new gamer and they would most likely enjoy it.
To this day I still remember that moment towards the end of TTT where, after the Prince's father dies and he starts freaking out about what to do and Farah and all that and thinks that maybe if he recovers the sands he can time travel again like in WW And then the Dark Prince drops the bomb: AND THEN WHAT? and basically goes through every single mistake the Prince made since the first game, how he kept abusing the sands to "fix" the problems, HIS problems and ended up causing more, bigger problems to himself and others to the point he's essentially at the same place he was during the first game, the vizier is in control and kidnapped Farah and he's messing with powers beyond his comprehension. And the Prince actually acknowledges this and how he has been acting like a kid running away from the consequences of his own actions and swears to not depend on the sands ever again
@@akashvishwanath1159 I also loved the way you defeat the dark prince. No crazy battle, no magic powers...you just walk away and leave him behind to rot away in the recesses of your mind. Sometimes the only way to "win" a fight is to not even give it the time of day
20:25 I think the reason of why Two Thrones wasn't that well received was because of it's prototype, Prince of Persia: Kindred Blades which was gonna be an open world game that kept Warrior Within's edge and it also had the Dark Prince but you could transform into him on command (by walking to fire sources as opposed to the healing water ones) and he had no time limit and apparently the ending of the game depended on which character you spent most time playing with, there's even a demo so they went pretty far with the initial idea. The issue is that while the game eventually switched directions into a more linear Sands of time experience the marketing didn't, almost all press for the game was based on Kindred Blades (Like trailers showing the Prince saving civilians from monsters, and pouring fire to turn into the Dark Prince) so when the final game came out it didn't resembled the marketing material and people felt kinda cheated.
I was also confused when Two Thrones came out and it was vastly different from all the trailers promoting it, while I did ended up enjoying the game the aspect that I was dissapointed by the most was the Dark Prince, the guy is fun to play as but it's restricted to very short sequences and they are few and far between, maybe keeping the original idea of turning into him on command wouldn't have worked on a linear game but they should have found a way to have him around longer. Warrior Within is also my favorite, sure is edgy as hell but since I'm into heavy metal bands the soundtrack and the mood didn't bother me at all and not accounting that I feel that the level design in that game was the best of the three.
I mean Two Thrones is not bad as per say. it's just Warrior Within is more interesting, it's open ended level design and it's bold cleverly put together story (which for the record, today's 90% developers don't have the balls to create a smart edgy story like that). was just too much for it to surpass. maybe if Ubisoft had not abandoned the original Kindred Blades concept
@@v-trigger6137 The biggest issue with two thrones IMO is the dark prince and how he got replaced by vizier. From the ending of Warrior Within, it was clear that Dark Prince was the true villian. Two Thrones cut him down to an annoying voice in the head, even when Prince transforms the Dark Prince has no control of the Body or the Mind.
I didn't know two thrones was hated...me and my buddies literally loved every second of it and used to talk endlessly about it in school...Aah good days.
@@rubz1390 I like WW, not because is "edgy", the atmosphere is very interesting, just check the concept arts for it. Also, the Prince being a bit more violent has nothing to do (to me) with "edgyness" (I hate this word with a passion) - just check the background of what is happening in the game story, being chased for many years by Dahaka and having no hope left in how to fix it beyond that Island. Of course he'll be a bit on the darker side of life, but that isn't "edgy" that is just the story.
Wait, did I just hear him say you couldn't interact with the environment in Sands of Time? Because I swear, I have distinct memories of my main strategy in that game being to bounce off walls, knock down enemies, and then instantly execute. Am I misremembering something?
yeah so when he was complaining about the combat about sands of time i was confused, saw he did absolutely no wall run action. You could either do the wall run jump over enemy or push off the wall into a sword spear maneuver. If he did no wall runs, he woulda had a brutal time with the blue soldiers and general mobs haha.
People forget that in Warrior Within, the Prince is so edgy because he has been running from the Dahaka for SEVEN years. He was now a battle-hardened, edgy prince for real.
Warrior Within is my favorite and I replayed it some years ago. I just love the ideia behind Dahaka and time travel stories makes my brain happy. So yeah, It's pure edge but I'm all here for it and its badass soundtrack.
Actually Kbash you can do wall attacks in sands of time too. You need to press jump near a wall and then the attack button and prince will launch himself at the nearest enemy line. You can also do the parry from WW, but it's super hard to do. You need to be pixel perfect. Just a heads up if youre gonna replay sands of time.
The torpedo attack is especially useful in SOT since many of the more annoying enemies fall victim to it. The parry isn't that hard, it's just a preemptive press instead of the weird post-hit piss easy parry of the others.
I recently replayed the second game, and was amazed by how well it holds up, the combat is so intuitive and has some depth to it, and it even has dynamic music! Great game, love it to death
So true man, I felt that it didn't even look that bad but some models look horrifying.. I am contradicting myself here.. The point is, the environment and the ambience is still spot on.. Really high replay value for this game.
@@harinarayan1073 just think if warrior within gets a remake with the original combat system. That game would be fire but it's unlikely as ubisoft became shit.
@@pratiksengupta5336 That is true.. Though I hate exclusives, Sony could for once buy the rights for this remake and give it to a company like Bluepoint games or some similar company.
Interesting Trivia bit. In Russian dub they never changed Prince's VA - they simply recorded lines for Warrior Within in the morning while VA's voice was coarse due to him being forced into heavy drinking on the night before the recording session. Man suffered for the sake of art! But myths and legends of crazy Russian dubs aside - having one consistent VA really helped to sell Prince's journey from young and naive man to weary and hardened warrior.
All three of these games, despite the jank of the first and edge of the second, are phenomenal. They tell a genuinely good, flowing story supplemented by fun platforming and intuitive combat - and holy *fuck* the visuals are still gorgeous. One of my favourite trilogies of all time, warrior within is still the best one fight me
Like some fans, Warrior Within is my favorite too. The refined combat, the gloomy atmosphere, the punishing difficulty especially when dealing with the puzzles to unlock life bar upgrades, are all the best in the series in my opinion. I not only beat the game multiple times over the years, I also beat the game when it was a thing on iOS. WW was the only SoT trilogy game that got a release on iOS! Because of its best gameplay out of them all, I imagine.
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
Love it, as a matter of fact I just got into replaying this trilogy. Love Warrior Within the most, due exactly to the combat system, semi open world and exploring for chests you mentioned!
Warrior within is my favorite for the reason u dont like it interconnected open world (and good at that like 1st half of DS) better combat with depth harder fights and i was a teen on my 1st playthrough so didn't mind the edge and it looks most distinct imo from the trilogy
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
I have to correct you on Sands of Time. You could use walls in combat there too. In fact, you needed to use walls there to 1 shot the Guys with big swords, and the blue guys with double double Polearm. In Sands of time every enamy can be 1 shot. Some of them you can do just with the prince but the 2 I mentioned can only be done by helping yourself with the walls.
Actually WW had a precursor to stealth takedowns (hence existence of line sentries to kill) introduced in TTT - if you grab an enemy while it doesn't notice you it will not alert everyone in location and you can choke them death culminating in Prince taking their weapon and beheading them... Even if it was a mace. Kinda funny that you missed wall jump attack in first game and silent choke move in second both mechanics they expanded upon in next respective games.
Warrior Within was the first ever true ending I unlocked in gaming. Not gonna lie I did it because I was hoping for something extra with Kaileena or Shahdee 😉
It's because of this trilogy that I realized video games can have such engaging stories with fun gameplay. True there's jank, but as long as it doesn't make the game unplayable, I can live with it. Warrior Within is my personal favorite as I've played it countless times, but the glitchy stuff you showed off just adds to said experience. One particular glitch happened when I played the Xbox version. I got the life upgrade from the bottom of the main hall, where you move the lever to access the towers, and came back to see... nothing. I shit you not, the hall's layout didn't load in, leaving it just a black abyss. Funny enough, the hitboxes were still there, so I was able to have the Prince stand over said abyss. Thankfully, all I had to do was exit the hall and come back to load the place back in. But yeah, I don't know what they did with Warrior Within, but that game is not stable sometimes. I played the PS2, GameCube, Xbox, and PS3 ports that had their own glitches, but that was the most memorable one I can recall.
15:33 You can boost of walls in Sands of Time as well, although very rare it will come in handy 22:28 Didn't Sands of Time also have some rudimentary stealth with a takedown button?
Some of my favorite games of that gen. And as a little edgelord, the godsmack/scorpion king soundtrack was laser aimed at me. That being said i barely remember much of WW. The hanging gardens are what stick out the most but I vividly remember the endings to 1 and 3. Two thrones got a *lot* of replay. Pity they've never been able to capture the same magic. Ubisoft's PS2 library is almost unmatched
@@Cavaleirodosul5 That’s the name of the last one I was talking about! With his brother Malik, thanks for reminding me, I completely forgot the name lol. I played it on console though, I never had a wii unfortunately 😔
Warrior Within was the best PoP game. The combat, Animation, the cloth physics of WW blew my mind the first time I played it. The story was interesting and fresh, Dahaka was an amazingly terrifying enemy that I loved to hate and both endings were awesome. and that Shahdee CG at the start of the game, got me in trouble! PoP1 was alright, It was pretty interesting but everything it did was drastically improved in PoP2. PoP3 was just a cash grab, I don't care how much you wanna praise it, but when the 3rd game looks like a downgrade even compared to the first game, it means something. PoP3 didn't add or improve anything to the series and the things it did were all downgrades or half-assed. the stealth was god-awful and the bosses were a design nightmare! even compared to the newer reboots of the series, PoP3 is still my least favorite PoP game.
12:17 I really like this little bit on the appeal on edge and how it could lead to deeper things. The concept gets made fun of so easily but that's only when it's the only thing present. An ingredient alone cannot make a gourmet meal and young creators don't realize that.
The coverage of this trilogy reminds me (for some reason, I'm not sure why) of the game Mark of Kri and it's sequel Rise of the Kasai. I feel those games are highly underrated to this day and I would love to see K-Bash's take on it if time would allow.
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
I owe so much to Prince of Persia. Not only as a foundational piece of my childhood as a solid platformer, but for introducing me to the middle-east's past and making me want to understand a lot of the setting. It opened up this whole world to me of the ancient Persian/Iranian empires and made me fascinated with that vibe I couldn't explain. also it conditioned me to basically release a hit of dopamine every time I hear Yuri Lowenthall (the Prince in 1 & 3)'s voice.
Having never known about the 3rd games marketing, it was my favorite. The sands of time style gameplay with more refined combat and the change of pace with the dark prince. And stealth if basic added more variety. Excellent game imo
WW: if it's unblockable, it's dodgeable. (Shadi's double sword impale, the griffin's dark pulse) And did you know the charged sandblast works amazingly against the Griffin? It's not a slow clunky fight when you know that, and the Sand Wraith is built to dish out that attack often. Warrior Within is fair in every combat scenario and trap puzzle with only one outlier: the Empress might teleport while you hang from the ledge, and you can't finish the fight to get the crappy ending (but you should be fighting the Dahaka instead)
So like most "journalists" you admit that you have a short attention span and dunk on PoP WW because of that(and it being the band wagon, so to speak). Jerk on it for all you want, it had the best combat system created to this day, and the soundtrack, it being a masterpiece of rock with oriental influences(tattooing Godsmack's signature style to it, courtesy of some talented people like Inon Zur and Stuart Chatwood). It not having the HAM acting from the first one(with a britt-ish accent) and a more fitting tone for the story was an appropriate move, shame shallow critics couldn't see past their own biases, but that why there are two review categories on Rotten Tomatoes.
WW is my favorite POP. The music is great. Dahaka literally gave me nightmares. The action and gameplay was awesome. I even love the menus. SOT is my 2nd and I don't like 3rd one, too many quick time events. The ww world somehow felt alive it opened up and when going back to the initial levels makes it feels like it doesn't just exist for us, instead we are just passing through. The Sand wraith mode was fun. SOT was great and WW feels like they built on top of it and the 3rd one felt kinda bad, it had good parts but it feels unfinished sometimes. WW is the only remaster i look forward to but the 3rd one has the most potential to improve.
WW is easily my favorite of the trilogy, it has its problems, sure, but the tone, the combat, the visuals, the music, Kaileena, Dahaka, all great stuff i absolutely love in that game. TTT felt like a step back to me in some regards. Though the banter between the two princes is great.
I have concluded that every single criticism for the gameplay of WW is related to skill issue... I was freaking 6-8 years old when I beat that game like 12 times no problems.
Dude wtf? Warrior within was too ahead of it's time and nobody complained like u. It was a legendary game with a dark story, time jump and combat. This is what happens when 2k kids play a legendary series like PoP, whine like a Lil dawg 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
@@Cousinbiddy1 To think of, yea, puzzle solving is a bit lesser at the start of the game at least. But it is there. Warrior Within is less colourful, more mature, more bloody, has a redefined combat system and an amazing story with multiple endings. Play it for the game it is, and compare it when you end the story. It's easily the best overall in the trilogy.
WW had the best music in the trilogy, hands down. If anyone thinks the opposite, Sands of Time had a lot of metal and techno songs too, that's part of the game's charm. Thanks to the snob fans all of the aggressiveness in the music was gone for Two Thrones and guess what that game had the most boring soundtrack of them all. Just to please the fans that didn't think the prince was persian enough, the prince was always persian u gatekeeping snobs. Ubisoft didn't kill the POP franchise, it was the fans
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
Great video man really enjoyed it! Btw you can leap from walls in sands of time aswell. Its just never explained. You need to walk to a wall and jump and now you can choose to press sword attack, dagger attack or jump to do different attacks.
I used to hear about this series all the time in Nintendo Power from like 2008-2012 but never played any of them. I wonder what other greats that magazine pushed that I missed out on
You had some clear bias going in Warrior Within. I get that you don't have to like it, everyone has their own taste, but at least acknowledge the strong parts, it your own incompetence to enjoy them. The combat in WW is the best part and is really good once you figure it out (and it's not that hard, I think you just weren't willing to spend enough time to learn it properly).
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style???
This whole trilogy needs to be viewed as a journey. SoT was Prince making a mistake due to immaturity and then quickly trying to fix it, WW was him having to suffer the lasting consequences of his mistake and becoming more jaded as a result, and TT was him coming to terms with the fact that he can't just fix everything and you can't run away from your mistakes, which is when he really conquered the darkness that has been in him since WW. So in a way you can see Prince going from Young and Hopeful, to Mature and Jaded, to Mature and Hopeful. You can say you don't like the edginess of WW and that's okay, but you need to understand why it was needed to the story.
Is it strange I would watch a entire second channel of rehashed content of edgy kbash and this channel on top of it? I'd also watch a channel called cooking with kabash. And a theory channel called bash theory. Anyone else?
most of your complain about comabt in pop trilogy strems from skill issues . its like saying elden ring or dark souls sucks cause i keep dying again and again
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
@@KhaosKontroller How can it be good? You literally can't die so the challenge is out of the world window right away and doesn't make any sense that Elika can just pull you out of a chasm but she can't help you reach the other side. There are so much more problems of course like the repetitive boss (fights?) quick time events And the ending, Oh my god how terrible that was
@@soundtrack1405 Yeah, the combat felt really odd. It just feels like a sequence of QTEs instead of stringing a combo together or being creative with it. How you gonna make worse combat than the first one
@@bipstymcbipste5641 I didn't like the combat in Forgotten Sands either. In that game the prince feels like, he went from an agile fighter to a slow one with strength
"The Two Thrones" would've been the fan favorite ... if it would've stuck to the original concept of "Kindred Blades". KB had THE PERFECT blend from what we were shown from E3 footage and behind the scenes. But the vocal majority of SoT fans made themselves heard ... so-much-so that UbiSoft scrapped KB and redid it into the severely underwhelming SoT redo of T2T. Side-by-side, SoT and T2T is just ... SoT but with better combat. So the hard core fans ( Not the tone deaf, Arabian Nights kinda folks ) agree that the high point was at WW. And rightfully so, because it has enough edge and maturity but still keeps what's good of the setting and aesthetic while making it grittier. Try being chased by an unstoppable beast for more than a year, see how fun that feels, if you don't become edgy, you probably end up six feet under. Ain't no "Merry go happy" moments in that situation, so WW style choice makes sense, and it is well explained too. KB would've taken that title strictly because it would've taken what WW established and ironed out the kinks while still holding both sides of the fanbase ... instead UbiSoft thought "WW didn't do well on money but SoT did ... people are talking so let's do a 180 instead of mixing them." Apologies for the long comment but I just had to. Much love and stay safe, folks!
I remember playing Warrior Within on the original Xbox, and I got to this part where there's supposed to be a cutscene where the Dahaka or whatever breaks a wall open for you to go through. I didn't trigger the cutscene or know that it existed, so I was just running around this level confused as shit til I fell off something and died. When I came back, I respawned as a floating head with my sword and dagger. I popped a VHS into my TV (yeah, I'm fuckin' old), and recorded the glitch to keep. Then I died and respawned as the prince in his sand form or whatever, which I had not seen in the game, so that was jarring and most deffinatly recorded on that VHS, as well. Good times.
WW for me is the best simply because the Prince is a hardened warrior and he became that way because he's been dodging the Dahaka for seven years. I think Ubisoft should have had some content where they show some flashback to how the Dahaka appeared for the first time and how the Prince has scavenged the world at sea (Dahaka cannot handle water) just to stay alive and make it to the island of time. Initially the Old Man was supposed to be a narrator throughout the story but I really think that they wanted to make the game more hardcore and that narration wouldn't ft in to the aesthetic of the warrior-esque Prince with heavy metal music from Stuart Chatwood and Godsmack in the background. Prince evolved from a young teenager to a hardened warrior in WW and this game is a masterpiece. I hope they remake the trilogy 🙏
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style???
@@Cousinbiddy1 the only puzzles are the ones in the Catacombs and also when you have to activate the Water Gardens and the Mechanical Towers, but they're not that challenging however the Dahaka chases are tough and it takes timing and memory to win that will push your platforming skills to it's limits.
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
I played all 3 games. Loved them all but Warrior Within was by far my favorite with Two Thrones being my least liked. The Godsmack soundtrack hit me in the face initially but I got used to it as I fully immersed myself in 'WW's narrative. The whole sandwraith reveal blew my damn mind back in the day xD
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
@@Cousinbiddy1 There are some really good platformpuzzle segments. Its peak is when you return to the clocktower the secod time if I remember rightly, its been years after all. Besides that, the narrative still gives me goosebumps when other characters are revealed, who they are and what theyr part is. It does, like you said, focus extremely on combat to the detriment of plain puzzles, but this change of pace is welcome to me. After all, Price of Persia has always more been about navigation that brainteasing puzzles, or combat for that matter. The Sand trilogy is already very far removed from its roots, but I feel that it didnt do so to its detriment.
I played these games backward two thrones first then WW and then SOT Two Thrones is my favorite i guess cuz i played that first but if i remember currectly also because it was very firs game i played on my pc
Correction to the SoT combat sequence. You CAN interact with the environment. Through a combo of actions you can propel yourself off the wall and either attac with the dagger or sword. Don't ask me the combo though I played these when I was 14
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
Skill issue with the Dahaka. I too got my ass handed to me by the bosses but the Dahaka chases were easy, I mean you do have rewind powers. My favorite sequence in the trilogy is still the part in WW where you have to complete a puzzle by going through three consecutive chases. Hearing Godsmack while parkouring for your life tickles a certain spot in my brain.
also jump over sweeping attacks, counterattack, pretty sure roll attacking was a thing. Lots of options and room for creativity - just using the jump-over-and-slash thing will get you combo'd to death eventually in SoT
And then the big sandzombie hit me square in the chest with his big glaive, throwing me against the wall where a big sawblade cut me deep before i fell down into an abyss filled with snakes. Waaaait, thats not what happened. No yea i remember now. First the Sandzombie tried to hit me with his big glaive, but i was cunning to his trickery, so i ran across his face, flipped over his back, and just as i was about to land a devastating blow, i got caught in the big sawblade that cut me deap and i fell down into an abyss filled with snakes. No, thats not how it happened. Also, is it just me, or was the castle in the first game designed by Bloody Stupid Johnsson as a meat packaging plant, or a massage parlor? Like who puts that many stupid stupid traps in their own cellar? Who does that, but a man who thinks "well, these spinny poles with blades all over will neatly catch your clothes, and then carry you effortlessly across the corridor so you dont have to walk."
I think you didnt reach sands of time's advanced moves. They show up in one subtitled tutorial once and are easy to miss. There are wall torpedoes, wall vaults, vault dagger strikes, stun dagger strikes, parry dagger consumes and other parry moves. The enemies have their own immunities to certain moves but you can get through the whole game mashing square which leads people to completely missing half the combat moves like I did in my first few playthroughs. If an enemy is one sword strike from being down you can vault dagger to get an immediate consume instead of downing them. In the air you avoid the ai attacking you so its best to use the advanced moves to deal all of your final dagger blows instead of consuming their sands when they are down. Also you dont have to swivle slowly on colums, you can quick jump to the next pillar with the jump button and the direction input immediately after landing I really wish the game was harder because then you'd be forced to discover the advanced moves. You straight up claimed that warrior within was the first game where you could use the walls in combat...
Warrior within is actually my favourite out of all of them. I think the tone change and character change is explained well with the story. Its really well made. I love all 3 games but WW was just so great. The semi open world was great and the Atmosphere was absolutely beautiful
You are right. Best story and music in the franchise too
the tension, the music, the darkest atmosphere, ww is almost perfect, being limited only by technology, imagine such a game being made without the limitations of the time, it's basically a wet dream for the fans
@@mapacherojo8475 for sure. It was amazing. The music is wayyyyy too good. I still listen to the album. Atmosphere was great. I think people oversimplify it by saying its "emo prince". But i think it was done properly. Like there was a good reason for it to happen. He had been on the run for so long and he was scared of the dahaka. So he was filled with rage as well and wanted to just be done with all that. The story was actually really good and very well made. The level design was absolutely amazing. Watching the same places in past and present was really fun.
Hopefully if they do remake prince of persia sands of time, and it goes well and they go on to remake warrior within, i hope they keep it faithful to source material and keep the same type of music as well. An issue with newer games is that they focus way to much on orchestras. They're amazing. But some games are just made for rock and metal, like doom.
I played it way back in school a couple of years after it released. Loved every minute of it. And back then, playing games with your friends didn't mean playing online. It meant we'd physically meet up at the house of the guy who had the best console or PC and fire up a game and take turns playing it, seeing who could get past the hard parts. The old school combo mechanic would be interesting to revisit. It felt very smooth and organic compared to the preset finisher animations we have today. And the atmosphere of that game was just brilliant.
@@lamenamethefirst the combat is something that i really miss nowadays. That sort of sombat system, the flow of the combos, the amount of moves . It was crazy .way ahead of its time. The semi open world was great, even though it was fairly linear in progression. The secrets were great. The dahaka was such a well made enemy in the game. Every single chase scene was so scary and it was really satisfying to pull of the escapes. I played it back on the ps2 when it came out. And it blew my mind. I kept revisiting the game every year or so and then playing it on pc and psp when i got those. And it never ceased to amaze me. It was fun throughout and i think it holds up very well. Infact the whole trilogy holds up really really well. I could easily recommend it to a new gamer and they would most likely enjoy it.
To this day I still remember that moment towards the end of TTT where, after the Prince's father dies and he starts freaking out about what to do and Farah and all that and thinks that maybe if he recovers the sands he can time travel again like in WW
And then the Dark Prince drops the bomb: AND THEN WHAT? and basically goes through every single mistake the Prince made since the first game, how he kept abusing the sands to "fix" the problems, HIS problems and ended up causing more, bigger problems to himself and others to the point he's essentially at the same place he was during the first game, the vizier is in control and kidnapped Farah and he's messing with powers beyond his comprehension.
And the Prince actually acknowledges this and how he has been acting like a kid running away from the consequences of his own actions and swears to not depend on the sands ever again
The dark prince was an amazing character. Great lines, witty quips and badass powers. Unhinged and wise at the same time lol. Tick tock prince..
This has so much deep philosophy😀
This comment is a better review to the games than the review itself
@@akashvishwanath1159 I also loved the way you defeat the dark prince. No crazy battle, no magic powers...you just walk away and leave him behind to rot away in the recesses of your mind. Sometimes the only way to "win" a fight is to not even give it the time of day
20:25 I think the reason of why Two Thrones wasn't that well received was because of it's prototype, Prince of Persia: Kindred Blades which was gonna be an open world game that kept Warrior Within's edge and it also had the Dark Prince but you could transform into him on command (by walking to fire sources as opposed to the healing water ones) and he had no time limit and apparently the ending of the game depended on which character you spent most time playing with, there's even a demo so they went pretty far with the initial idea.
The issue is that while the game eventually switched directions into a more linear Sands of time experience the marketing didn't, almost all press for the game was based on Kindred Blades (Like trailers showing the Prince saving civilians from monsters, and pouring fire to turn into the Dark Prince) so when the final game came out it didn't resembled the marketing material and people felt kinda cheated.
I was also confused when Two Thrones came out and it was vastly different from all the trailers promoting it, while I did ended up enjoying the game the aspect that I was dissapointed by the most was the Dark Prince, the guy is fun to play as but it's restricted to very short sequences and they are few and far between, maybe keeping the original idea of turning into him on command wouldn't have worked on a linear game but they should have found a way to have him around longer.
Warrior Within is also my favorite, sure is edgy as hell but since I'm into heavy metal bands the soundtrack and the mood didn't bother me at all and not accounting that I feel that the level design in that game was the best of the three.
I was late to the party on all of them, but I did enjoy Two Thrones the most despite Warrior Within being the first one I played back in 2009
I mean Two Thrones is not bad as per say. it's just Warrior Within is more interesting, it's open ended level design and it's bold cleverly put together story (which for the record, today's 90% developers don't have the balls to create a smart edgy story like that). was just too much for it to surpass. maybe if Ubisoft had not abandoned the original Kindred Blades concept
@@v-trigger6137 The biggest issue with two thrones IMO is the dark prince and how he got replaced by vizier. From the ending of Warrior Within, it was clear that Dark Prince was the true villian. Two Thrones cut him down to an annoying voice in the head, even when Prince transforms the Dark Prince has no control of the Body or the Mind.
"the ending of the game depended on which character you spent most time playing with"
cool
I didn't know two thrones was hated...me and my buddies literally loved every second of it and used to talk endlessly about it in school...Aah good days.
Critic hate it because it was edgy but people like you and me who grew up with it love it because it was cool...and edgy.
@@rubz1390 i thought WW was what people saw as "edgy"
@@amirking5452 Yeah I made a mistake thought he was taking about WW
@@rubz1390 I like WW, not because is "edgy", the atmosphere is very interesting, just check the concept arts for it. Also, the Prince being a bit more violent has nothing to do (to me) with "edgyness" (I hate this word with a passion) - just check the background of what is happening in the game story, being chased for many years by Dahaka and having no hope left in how to fix it beyond that Island. Of course he'll be a bit on the darker side of life, but that isn't "edgy" that is just the story.
@@ЖудаМ I think people call it edgy because edginess usually means immaturity that is thinking that darkness=maturity
Warrior Within is one of the most badass games of all time.
Warrior within >>>>>>>assassin's sheit
@Penguin Economics Yeah, no. Stfu soy.
@Penguin Economics you mean 30+
@@penguineconomics1353You're probably 3
@@pratiksengupta5336you mean Ass Creed 😂
Wait, did I just hear him say you couldn't interact with the environment in Sands of Time? Because I swear, I have distinct memories of my main strategy in that game being to bounce off walls, knock down enemies, and then instantly execute. Am I misremembering something?
Nope, you're right
Yeah when he said you couldn't use the walls.. I was like wait what? the Manuel literally had the move list lol.
You could but I think it was much more limited than WW. Like for example you couldn't do the poledancing stripper move.
I totally thought about it when he mentioned it xD
yeah so when he was complaining about the combat about sands of time i was confused, saw he did absolutely no wall run action. You could either do the wall run jump over enemy or push off the wall into a sword spear maneuver. If he did no wall runs, he woulda had a brutal time with the blue soldiers and general mobs haha.
People forget that in Warrior Within, the Prince is so edgy because he has been running from the Dahaka for SEVEN years. He was now a battle-hardened, edgy prince for real.
Warrior Within is my favorite and I replayed it some years ago. I just love the ideia behind Dahaka and time travel stories makes my brain happy. So yeah, It's pure edge but I'm all here for it and its badass soundtrack.
Actually Kbash you can do wall attacks in sands of time too. You need to press jump near a wall and then the attack button and prince will launch himself at the nearest enemy line. You can also do the parry from WW, but it's super hard to do. You need to be pixel perfect. Just a heads up if youre gonna replay sands of time.
The torpedo attack is especially useful in SOT since many of the more annoying enemies fall victim to it. The parry isn't that hard, it's just a preemptive press instead of the weird post-hit piss easy parry of the others.
I recently replayed the second game, and was amazed by how well it holds up, the combat is so intuitive and has some depth to it, and it even has dynamic music! Great game, love it to death
Exactly, best imo
Same
So true man, I felt that it didn't even look that bad but some models look horrifying.. I am contradicting myself here.. The point is, the environment and the ambience is still spot on.. Really high replay value for this game.
@@harinarayan1073 just think if warrior within gets a remake with the original combat system. That game would be fire but it's unlikely as ubisoft became shit.
@@pratiksengupta5336 That is true.. Though I hate exclusives, Sony could for once buy the rights for this remake and give it to a company like Bluepoint games or some similar company.
Interesting Trivia bit.
In Russian dub they never changed Prince's VA - they simply recorded lines for Warrior Within in the morning while VA's voice was coarse due to him being forced into heavy drinking on the night before the recording session.
Man suffered for the sake of art! But myths and legends of crazy Russian dubs aside - having one consistent VA really helped to sell Prince's journey from young and naive man to weary and hardened warrior.
Hahaha that's so awesome, true or not
CONGRATS ON 100K MAN!! Great coverage as always, love seeing some appreciation for Two Thrones, that was always my favorite
I'm not ready for a world where youtubers I like like youtubers I like
@@avivchotzen1300 I dont think anybody can understand what you just wrote bro
@@jesusdanielhernandez6304 I can explain it to you if you're having trouble
@@avivchotzen1300 it took me 2 months but I finally understand.
"Im not ready for a world where youtubers I like, also like youtubers I like"
@@avivchotzen1300 it's comments like yours that give people epileptic seizures.
Let's get this man to 100k before the weeks out!
100k now !
*I am so proud of this community*
hell yeah!!! lets goooo
Mission Complete
Dang, can you ask for me to win the lottery before the week's out, too
Man your actually covered it hope you cover the reboot and forgotten sands as well
Those 2 were great, a shame that people hated them, the reboot especially
@@royolaniye6643 Reboot was meh, you couldn't die there and the sidekick was annoying. Also Farah was a donkey
The reboot is awful but Forgotten Sands is ok because of the new features
@@soundtrack1405 Forgotten Sands felt like it wanted to be God of War, with the swarms of enemies that die easily and the magic powers.
@@rubz1390 I hated the combat moves in it but at least Prince had ice powers and stuff
Warrior Within's time travel and Dahaka pursuit segments just hit different. Definitely my favourite of the three.
All three of these games, despite the jank of the first and edge of the second, are phenomenal. They tell a genuinely good, flowing story supplemented by fun platforming and intuitive combat - and holy *fuck* the visuals are still gorgeous. One of my favourite trilogies of all time, warrior within is still the best one fight me
All of your reviews are chaotic, time and time again.......
Get it time and time? Come on it was funny
Like some fans, Warrior Within is my favorite too.
The refined combat, the gloomy atmosphere, the punishing difficulty especially when dealing with the puzzles to unlock life bar upgrades, are all the best in the series in my opinion.
I not only beat the game multiple times over the years, I also beat the game when it was a thing on iOS.
WW was the only SoT trilogy game that got a release on iOS! Because of its best gameplay out of them all, I imagine.
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
Love it, as a matter of fact I just got into replaying this trilogy. Love Warrior Within the most, due exactly to the combat system, semi open world and exploring for chests you mentioned!
And best story and music in the series
@@soundtrack1405 don't forget kaileena our waifu. She was one of the reasons I like the series.
@Surfyun It's called rock, haven't heard ofvit?
@Surfyun Who cares, it's fiction genius
@Surfyun Yh that's true but with Warrior Within they went with badassery not to really give that persian feeling
Warrior within is my favorite for the reason u dont like it
interconnected open world (and good at that like 1st half of DS)
better combat with depth
harder fights
and i was a teen on my 1st playthrough so didn't mind the edge
and it looks most distinct imo from the trilogy
Agreed. The 3rd game felt too easy somehow.
Surprisingly the edgy and dark aspects of warrior within were the best changes to the series. It being rated M really made a lot more interesting.
Imagine Warrior within is made at this time but with the modern graphics. It would make people think it has been in the future in year 2040 not 2004
It's called Jedi Survivor
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
I have to correct you on Sands of Time.
You could use walls in combat there too.
In fact, you needed to use walls there to 1 shot the Guys with big swords, and the blue guys with double double Polearm.
In Sands of time every enamy can be 1 shot. Some of them you can do just with the prince but the 2 I mentioned can only be done by helping yourself with the walls.
“One can dream…or work for it” is the best line in any K-bash review
Hmm.
I've replayed the trilogy many times and Warrior Within the the one I've enjoyed the most and replayed the most. I even learned to speedrun it.
“When you die to the final boss” *shows dmc1 final boss*. Oh man I can relate lol, I fought that guy for hours
"Do you like my dress, Prince"
"Actually I don't, I'm more into feet"
Lmao
Gotta replay this trilogy sometime (also dig the inclusion of Jake Gyllenhaal singing Sunday in the Park with George)
It's 9 bucks on steam for all 3, plus some newer ones.
Actually WW had a precursor to stealth takedowns (hence existence of line sentries to kill) introduced in TTT - if you grab an enemy while it doesn't notice you it will not alert everyone in location and you can choke them death culminating in Prince taking their weapon and beheading them... Even if it was a mace.
Kinda funny that you missed wall jump attack in first game and silent choke move in second both mechanics they expanded upon in next respective games.
Congrats on the 100k man you deserve it and amazing video like always KBash.
Warrior Within was the first ever true ending I unlocked in gaming. Not gonna lie I did it because I was hoping for something extra with Kaileena or Shahdee 😉
They are literally my childhood. Thanks for covering kbash
Note: you can also leap off the walls during combat in sands of time.
Yeah
It's because of this trilogy that I realized video games can have such engaging stories with fun gameplay. True there's jank, but as long as it doesn't make the game unplayable, I can live with it. Warrior Within is my personal favorite as I've played it countless times, but the glitchy stuff you showed off just adds to said experience.
One particular glitch happened when I played the Xbox version. I got the life upgrade from the bottom of the main hall, where you move the lever to access the towers, and came back to see... nothing. I shit you not, the hall's layout didn't load in, leaving it just a black abyss. Funny enough, the hitboxes were still there, so I was able to have the Prince stand over said abyss.
Thankfully, all I had to do was exit the hall and come back to load the place back in. But yeah, I don't know what they did with Warrior Within, but that game is not stable sometimes. I played the PS2, GameCube, Xbox, and PS3 ports that had their own glitches, but that was the most memorable one I can recall.
15:33 You can boost of walls in Sands of Time as well, although very rare it will come in handy
22:28 Didn't Sands of Time also have some rudimentary stealth with a takedown button?
How dare you not call the dark half of yourself Kbad
Also congrats on 100K subs
Crazy how assassins creed never let you wall run like the prince
12:25 you know I'm not gonna lie, this is one of the more cogent explanations of adolescant edge I've ever heard. Big ol' slowclap
Some of my favorite games of that gen. And as a little edgelord, the godsmack/scorpion king soundtrack was laser aimed at me. That being said i barely remember much of WW. The hanging gardens are what stick out the most but I vividly remember the endings to 1 and 3. Two thrones got a *lot* of replay. Pity they've never been able to capture the same magic. Ubisoft's PS2 library is almost unmatched
*Sands of Time* will hands down always be my favorite! Then it’s Warrior Within. After than, Two Thrones, then the other one with his brother Malik
And the Prince of Persia forgotten sands from Wii?
@@Cavaleirodosul5 That’s the name of the last one I was talking about! With his brother Malik, thanks for reminding me, I completely forgot the name lol. I played it on console though, I never had a wii unfortunately 😔
@@kakashikage9483 Prince of Persia forgotten sands from Nintendo Wii and other platforms are Different and exclusive games
Warrior Within was the best PoP game. The combat, Animation, the cloth physics of WW blew my mind the first time I played it. The story was interesting and fresh, Dahaka was an amazingly terrifying enemy that I loved to hate and both endings were awesome. and that Shahdee CG at the start of the game, got me in trouble!
PoP1 was alright, It was pretty interesting but everything it did was drastically improved in PoP2.
PoP3 was just a cash grab, I don't care how much you wanna praise it, but when the 3rd game looks like a downgrade even compared to the first game, it means something. PoP3 didn't add or improve anything to the series and the things it did were all downgrades or half-assed. the stealth was god-awful and the bosses were a design nightmare! even compared to the newer reboots of the series, PoP3 is still my least favorite PoP game.
Man this trilogy is a masterpiece
12:17 I really like this little bit on the appeal on edge and how it could lead to deeper things. The concept gets made fun of so easily but that's only when it's the only thing present. An ingredient alone cannot make a gourmet meal and young creators don't realize that.
Dark KBash: I have come to revive a long-dead bit!
KBash: Jokes on you, I played DMC2! *(Nonstop Infinite Gunshots)*
11:21 aye its not Slipkot, Godsmack was the Band to come up with PoP WW Soundtracks!
The coverage of this trilogy reminds me (for some reason, I'm not sure why) of the game Mark of Kri and it's sequel Rise of the Kasai. I feel those games are highly underrated to this day and I would love to see K-Bash's take on it if time would allow.
WW is too badass. The best action platformer to date. Only Jedi Survivor and Ghost Runner are close.
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
@@Cousinbiddy1 Ok
I owe so much to Prince of Persia. Not only as a foundational piece of my childhood as a solid platformer, but for introducing me to the middle-east's past and making me want to understand a lot of the setting. It opened up this whole world to me of the ancient Persian/Iranian empires and made me fascinated with that vibe I couldn't explain. also it conditioned me to basically release a hit of dopamine every time I hear Yuri Lowenthall (the Prince in 1 & 3)'s voice.
warrior within still the best, THE horror tone, music and true ending path... 😃
Wake up babe, Kbash just uploaded
I still have flashbacks from Warrior Within and the soundtrack THE SOUNDTRACK 😩😩😩
Having never known about the 3rd games marketing, it was my favorite. The sands of time style gameplay with more refined combat and the change of pace with the dark prince. And stealth if basic added more variety. Excellent game imo
WW: if it's unblockable, it's dodgeable.
(Shadi's double sword impale, the griffin's dark pulse)
And did you know the charged sandblast works amazingly against the Griffin?
It's not a slow clunky fight when you know that, and the Sand Wraith is built to dish out that attack often.
Warrior Within is fair in every combat scenario and trap puzzle with only one outlier: the Empress might teleport while you hang from the ledge, and you can't finish the fight to get the crappy ending (but you should be fighting the Dahaka instead)
So like most "journalists" you admit that you have a short attention span and dunk on PoP WW because of that(and it being the band wagon, so to speak). Jerk on it for all you want, it had the best combat system created to this day, and the soundtrack, it being a masterpiece of rock with oriental influences(tattooing Godsmack's signature style to it, courtesy of some talented people like Inon Zur and Stuart Chatwood). It not having the HAM acting from the first one(with a britt-ish accent) and a more fitting tone for the story was an appropriate move, shame shallow critics couldn't see past their own biases, but that why there are two review categories on Rotten Tomatoes.
WW is my favorite POP. The music is great. Dahaka literally gave me nightmares. The action and gameplay was awesome. I even love the menus. SOT is my 2nd and I don't like 3rd one, too many quick time events. The ww world somehow felt alive it opened up and when going back to the initial levels makes it feels like it doesn't just exist for us, instead we are just passing through. The Sand wraith mode was fun. SOT was great and WW feels like they built on top of it and the 3rd one felt kinda bad, it had good parts but it feels unfinished sometimes. WW is the only remaster i look forward to but the 3rd one has the most potential to improve.
WW is easily my favorite of the trilogy, it has its problems, sure, but the tone, the combat, the visuals, the music, Kaileena, Dahaka, all great stuff i absolutely love in that game. TTT felt like a step back to me in some regards. Though the banter between the two princes is great.
Wow, you are probably the first reviewer who has the correct take on the best entry in this series. I salute you.
No he doesn't cuz he didn't say warrior within is a perfect game 👹
I have concluded that every single criticism for the gameplay of WW is related to skill issue... I was freaking 6-8 years old when I beat that game like 12 times no problems.
5:18 I love this bit. Let's use Mario as a censor but jumping on enemies? Nah clearly that's the territory of the ever iconic jumpman Aladdin lol.
Dude wtf? Warrior within was too ahead of it's time and nobody complained like u. It was a legendary game with a dark story, time jump and combat. This is what happens when 2k kids play a legendary series like PoP, whine like a Lil dawg 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
@@Cousinbiddy1 To think of, yea, puzzle solving is a bit lesser at the start of the game at least. But it is there.
Warrior Within is less colourful, more mature, more bloody, has a redefined combat system and an amazing story with multiple endings.
Play it for the game it is, and compare it when you end the story. It's easily the best overall in the trilogy.
WW had the best music in the trilogy, hands down. If anyone thinks the opposite, Sands of Time had a lot of metal and techno songs too, that's part of the game's charm. Thanks to the snob fans all of the aggressiveness in the music was gone for Two Thrones and guess what that game had the most boring soundtrack of them all. Just to please the fans that didn't think the prince was persian enough, the prince was always persian u gatekeeping snobs. Ubisoft didn't kill the POP franchise, it was the fans
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
Why does the Camera look like something I'd see in Devil May Cry 1? I never wanna be reminded of DMC 1 Camera Angles
You have control over it though
POP Warriors Within was my favourite and I won't back from my opinion 😂🤘👏
Great video man really enjoyed it!
Btw you can leap from walls in sands of time aswell. Its just never explained. You need to walk to a wall and jump and now you can choose to press sword attack, dagger attack or jump to do different attacks.
This was always one of those series that looked cool but I never got around to. I do regret that.
I used to hear about this series all the time in Nintendo Power from like 2008-2012 but never played any of them. I wonder what other greats that magazine pushed that I missed out on
warrior within is the best...if they do a remake with new graphics i am sure he will be very played
I like all
But i love Warrior Within
I don't agree with all you say but it's a good video i gotta say
Out of all the trilogies, The Two Thrones' final boss (called himself Zurvan, the bastard) tested me...
Abel's Blood! I'm glad he died the way he did.
You had some clear bias going in Warrior Within. I get that you don't have to like it, everyone has their own taste, but at least acknowledge the strong parts, it your own incompetence to enjoy them.
The combat in WW is the best part and is really good once you figure it out (and it's not that hard, I think you just weren't willing to spend enough time to learn it properly).
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style???
Warrior within its first game i played for real, best story and development in video game ever
This whole trilogy needs to be viewed as a journey. SoT was Prince making a mistake due to immaturity and then quickly trying to fix it, WW was him having to suffer the lasting consequences of his mistake and becoming more jaded as a result, and TT was him coming to terms with the fact that he can't just fix everything and you can't run away from your mistakes, which is when he really conquered the darkness that has been in him since WW.
So in a way you can see Prince going from Young and Hopeful, to Mature and Jaded, to Mature and Hopeful.
You can say you don't like the edginess of WW and that's okay, but you need to understand why it was needed to the story.
Warrior within is one of my all the me favorite games. I played it so many times.
OG Ubisoft was extremely creative. Really sucks that they can't make games like this anymore.
Is it strange I would watch a entire second channel of rehashed content of edgy kbash and this channel on top of it? I'd also watch a channel called cooking with kabash. And a theory channel called bash theory. Anyone else?
most of your complain about comabt in pop trilogy strems from skill issues . its like saying elden ring or dark souls sucks cause i keep dying again and again
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
I miss this series tbh. I played the 2008 Reboot so much when I was a kid. Love that game.
The reboot is trash
@@soundtrack1405 Cool opinion dude but you can keep it
@@KhaosKontroller How can it be good? You literally can't die so the challenge is out of the world window right away and doesn't make any sense that Elika can just pull you out of a chasm but she can't help you reach the other side.
There are so much more problems of course like the repetitive boss (fights?) quick time events
And the ending, Oh my god how terrible that was
@@soundtrack1405 Yeah, the combat felt really odd. It just feels like a sequence of QTEs instead of stringing a combo together or being creative with it. How you gonna make worse combat than the first one
@@bipstymcbipste5641 I didn't like the combat in Forgotten Sands either. In that game the prince feels like, he went from an agile fighter to a slow one with strength
First there was Bully Maguire... then there was Bully KBash
Therapist: Edgy Kbash doesn't exist, He can't hurt you.
Edgy Kbash: . . . .
Congrats on the subs, Love ya content. Keep it up.
"The Two Thrones" would've been the fan favorite ... if it would've stuck to the original concept of "Kindred Blades". KB had THE PERFECT blend from what we were shown from E3 footage and behind the scenes. But the vocal majority of SoT fans made themselves heard ... so-much-so that UbiSoft scrapped KB and redid it into the severely underwhelming SoT redo of T2T. Side-by-side, SoT and T2T is just ... SoT but with better combat. So the hard core fans ( Not the tone deaf, Arabian Nights kinda folks ) agree that the high point was at WW. And rightfully so, because it has enough edge and maturity but still keeps what's good of the setting and aesthetic while making it grittier. Try being chased by an unstoppable beast for more than a year, see how fun that feels, if you don't become edgy, you probably end up six feet under. Ain't no "Merry go happy" moments in that situation, so WW style choice makes sense, and it is well explained too. KB would've taken that title strictly because it would've taken what WW established and ironed out the kinks while still holding both sides of the fanbase ... instead UbiSoft thought "WW didn't do well on money but SoT did ... people are talking so let's do a 180 instead of mixing them."
Apologies for the long comment but I just had to. Much love and stay safe, folks!
I remember playing Warrior Within on the original Xbox, and I got to this part where there's supposed to be a cutscene where the Dahaka or whatever breaks a wall open for you to go through. I didn't trigger the cutscene or know that it existed, so I was just running around this level confused as shit til I fell off something and died. When I came back, I respawned as a floating head with my sword and dagger. I popped a VHS into my TV (yeah, I'm fuckin' old), and recorded the glitch to keep. Then I died and respawned as the prince in his sand form or whatever, which I had not seen in the game, so that was jarring and most deffinatly recorded on that VHS, as well. Good times.
WW for me is the best simply because the Prince is a hardened warrior and he became that way because he's been dodging the Dahaka for seven years. I think Ubisoft should have had some content where they show some flashback to how the Dahaka appeared for the first time and how the Prince has scavenged the world at sea (Dahaka cannot handle water) just to stay alive and make it to the island of time. Initially the Old Man was supposed to be a narrator throughout the story but I really think that they wanted to make the game more hardcore and that narration wouldn't ft in to the aesthetic of the warrior-esque Prince with heavy metal music from Stuart Chatwood and Godsmack in the background. Prince evolved from a young teenager to a hardened warrior in WW and this game is a masterpiece. I hope they remake the trilogy 🙏
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style???
@@Cousinbiddy1 the only puzzles are the ones in the Catacombs and also when you have to activate the Water Gardens and the Mechanical Towers, but they're not that challenging however the Dahaka chases are tough and it takes timing and memory to win that will push your platforming skills to it's limits.
Edgy kbash Is a better Prince that the One we got in ww
Getting warrior within remake will be like re4 remake, unbelievable!
warrior within is 7 years later and everyone says its the best of the 3 games
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
Reasons I like warrior withing the most: time travel history, it's hard
I played all 3 games. Loved them all but Warrior Within was by far my favorite with Two Thrones being my least liked. The Godsmack soundtrack hit me in the face initially but I got used to it as I fully immersed myself in 'WW's narrative. The whole sandwraith reveal blew my damn mind back in the day xD
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
@@Cousinbiddy1 There are some really good platformpuzzle segments. Its peak is when you return to the clocktower the secod time if I remember rightly, its been years after all. Besides that, the narrative still gives me goosebumps when other characters are revealed, who they are and what theyr part is. It does, like you said, focus extremely on combat to the detriment of plain puzzles, but this change of pace is welcome to me. After all, Price of Persia has always more been about navigation that brainteasing puzzles, or combat for that matter. The Sand trilogy is already very far removed from its roots, but I feel that it didnt do so to its detriment.
I played these games backward two thrones first then WW and then SOT
Two Thrones is my favorite i guess cuz i played that first but if i remember currectly also because it was very firs game i played on my pc
Was just playing sands of time on my laptop,yesterday!!
Correction to the SoT combat sequence. You CAN interact with the environment. Through a combo of actions you can propel yourself off the wall and either attac with the dagger or sword. Don't ask me the combo though I played these when I was 14
kbash you can jump off the walls in sands of time too tbh! good video :)
Everyone's gangster till you play Warrior Within on hard mode. That's some Dark Souls shit right there.
Proof that warrior within is the best is that the prince design became this one, even if more soften after
I played Prince of Persia sands of time , it’s a good game all tho it does need some improvements, I started playing warriors within and I was disappointed, this game has a lack of puzzles solving compared to the first game , the 2nd game does have the great platforming and action from the first game but where the hell are the puzzles in the game !!!!?????? It focuses too much on action and platforming but without the puzzle solving mixed into it. Like the first game had a focus on platforming, action and puzzles solving but now it seems like the 2nd game abandons puzzle solving. This made me drop the game , like if ur going to try to improve from the first game then why drop a very fun gameplay element that might make me like this game less than the first game???? So I’m just wondering if warriors within is still worth continuing playing the game , like does it get better , will have it puzzles later on or do I have accept this new gameplay style??
Skill issue with the Dahaka. I too got my ass handed to me by the bosses but the Dahaka chases were easy, I mean you do have rewind powers. My favorite sequence in the trilogy is still the part in WW where you have to complete a puzzle by going through three consecutive chases. Hearing Godsmack while parkouring for your life tickles a certain spot in my brain.
Hope you cover the Wii version of forgotten sands along with the HD one.
It has an interesting history and it’s a completely different game
The PSP one is a whole other animal too
Warrior within is the best of all of them
Prince of persia is definitely one of my favorite games. I still play to this day.
15:35 IIRC, you could attack in that manner kicking the wall in the original PoP Sands of Time as well.
also jump over sweeping attacks, counterattack, pretty sure roll attacking was a thing. Lots of options and room for creativity - just using the jump-over-and-slash thing will get you combo'd to death eventually in SoT
I wish they would continue this series especially the reboot
And then the big sandzombie hit me square in the chest with his big glaive, throwing me against the wall where a big sawblade cut me deep before i fell down into an abyss filled with snakes.
Waaaait, thats not what happened.
No yea i remember now. First the Sandzombie tried to hit me with his big glaive, but i was cunning to his trickery, so i ran across his face, flipped over his back, and just as i was about to land a devastating blow, i got caught in the big sawblade that cut me deap and i fell down into an abyss filled with snakes.
No, thats not how it happened.
Also, is it just me, or was the castle in the first game designed by Bloody Stupid Johnsson as a meat packaging plant, or a massage parlor?
Like who puts that many stupid stupid traps in their own cellar? Who does that, but a man who thinks "well, these spinny poles with blades all over will neatly catch your clothes, and then carry you effortlessly across the corridor so you dont have to walk."
I think you didnt reach sands of time's advanced moves. They show up in one subtitled tutorial once and are easy to miss. There are wall torpedoes, wall vaults, vault dagger strikes, stun dagger strikes, parry dagger consumes and other parry moves. The enemies have their own immunities to certain moves but you can get through the whole game mashing square which leads people to completely missing half the combat moves like I did in my first few playthroughs.
If an enemy is one sword strike from being down you can vault dagger to get an immediate consume instead of downing them. In the air you avoid the ai attacking you so its best to use the advanced moves to deal all of your final dagger blows instead of consuming their sands when they are down.
Also you dont have to swivle slowly on colums, you can quick jump to the next pillar with the jump button and the direction input immediately after landing
I really wish the game was harder because then you'd be forced to discover the advanced moves. You straight up claimed that warrior within was the first game where you could use the walls in combat...