This was a weird video to make! If I got anything wrong, please let me know! ♥I also want to make it clear, yes I want ETG to succeed, but for them to do that they need to address the quality of the game FIRST before they start upping prices. Hope you all enjoy! And thanks for watching!
@@Levi_Yourproblemisme I use BlueStacks to play mobile games including ETG on my pc, its easy to use and free. There are videos on YT that show how to download it as well. There are loads more programs that do the same, but I like using BlueStacks. Hope I was able to help :)
@@cephalonaural6854 Ranch of Rivershine developer did right way first created few other smaller games who will give them profit before go on horse game
$134 cold, hard smackeroos for 1474 premium coins? At least with Star Stable, you get a lifetime subscription and a weekly allowance of 100 SC. Whatever they are smoking, snorting, whatever it is, I want some too. Then again, they'd charge for that too, so nevermind.
I know that Horse Isle 3 has some goofy graphics to it, but it's still pretty fun. I think that it's also a lot easier to acquire good horses and establish yourself in that game without paying for anything. That's one game that I think may eventually have an edge over SSO as the dev team continues to add more features.
@@emmahilburn1732 the problem with hi3 is theyre pathetically RADICALLY homophobic and transphobic despite a LARGE portion of their players being queer. its been so bad that you can get banned for using the rainbow emoji or stating your pronouns! you cant say in public that youre nonbinary or that you have a (same gender) significant other but the moderators and other straight people can talk all about their husbands and boyfriends with no consequence. theyve alienated a large portion of their playerbase with their insane behavior. when i played a couple years ago there were on average around 300 players but now there MIGHT be 100 people on at the same time. its ironic that the developers and moderaters hate queer people yet the character builder is so insanely flexible and the game uses they them pronouns for all dialogue.
@@emmahilburn1732 HI3 did have problems with company homophobia, you can read about that on yhe manequest blog actually! But also its super annoying for deleting your account if you haven't played for a couple months. I spent 10s of hours grinding constantly just for my account to disappear and for the staff to be pretty passive aggressive about it
I played this game when it came out for like an hour and was so shocked with the amount of money I would have to spend if I wanted to actually have fun I immedietly uninstalled. you're telling me it got worse???? :') the whole reason I wanted to try this game is because the team said they wanted to be different than the other money hungry companies
I still play it occasionally but I can proudly say that I have never spent a single cent on this game, and never will :) Every time I enter the store to look at new tack (which I don't find that appealing anyway) I just take a look at the prices and I'm like 'nope' 😂 Seeing the video however makes me really glad I updated everything to full capacity when you could still pay with the other money instead of gold
@@NeonJJ_195I’ve never spent a cent on etg, and I’m glad. It’s sad what their doing to the game, I can’t even afford horses other than Arabians and welsh cobs
"the team said they wanted to be different than the other money hungry companies." They were right. They are different. They are worse than other money hungry companies.
Yeah, especially with how modern phones like the Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 15PM are literally capable of almost PC level graphics with raytracing capabilities.
My biggest critique is that they haven't added anything particularly new, yet expect people to pay more. The showjumping and training gets repetitive. It's a game that loses it's charm after hours of doing the same thing.
Kinda glad I dipped out of this game early on, oof what a mess. I swear companies that make horse games are 9 times out of 10 the absolute WORST. My friend was venting to me about Star Equestrian, who recently dropped a 300$ horse (Among other really greedy things). Well, I think more like 370$ because you need pay VIP first in order to even get it. So an almost a 400$ horse. And since it's all gacha, there is only a 10% chance of even getting it! How fun. Ugh, people just want a nice horse game, is that too much to ask? Yes, apparently it is.
i started following etg’s development in 2017 it’s crazy to see how greedy they’ve gotten while not giving us half the content they planned to add to the game.
I noticed, and it is quite sad. I was looking forward to buying 4 stalls for 90k cash, but when I got that and looked again it was 39 e-coins. I don't want to be spending real life money on a game like such. I understand they have to make money, but the new update is ridiculous. The competion thing too, I don't want to have to spend that many carrots to compete!
Man, i aleays feel like lowering pricess works better, more people can access an item or place but hiking it up make it exclusive in a way. I cannot escape from the hellhole world we live in if i have to pay what would be grocieries for a game. I also cannot do anything as i am jobless and despreately searching.
You would think if they lowered the payments it would mean the more players that would buy into it, the better. This goes for any and all horse games except for Ranch of Rivershine; that game is a breath of fresh air.
9:42 Regarding alienation of loyal players: As a longterm player I can say I have way too much money saved up over the months for this to really affect me, and I know many other end-game players are in the same boat. I'd imagine the worst hand was dealt to new-ish people who started playing a bit before this update, but who hadn't yet reached end-game when it dropped and therefore have to suffer the consequences without having the luxury of not knowing (''Ignorance is bliss'') that brand new players will have.
@@Jiminfied I call it endgame whenever you've upgraded all your buildings as the few things left to work towards after that point (training horse stats, competing, breeding) have no game-defined goals. You can put up goals for yourself, but that's about it
Rival Stars Horse racing will always be the best mobile horse game💯 Edit:I’ve been contemplating deleting ETG anyway and this recent update is doing ETG no favors
I think the PC version of Rival Stars Horse Racing is way better imo, their mobile game is a lot more restricted in comparison to their PC version unless you're willing to pay more money.
@@shadow14805 I’ve been able to play a bunch of the game without having to pay for anything. I recently bought a 2 month star club membership because I think the game is worth it. There’s a lot I’d like to see in Rival Stars but I really think the team is doing their best with what they have. Rival Stars doesn’t come off as greedy like ETG. The tack is expensive in Rival Stars but it’s easy to make the silver needed to buy a set.
I hope they really fall on their ass with this decision, this game is not even good enough to pay for those season passes. Maybe then they'll be less greedy.
I had been following the game right back at the start of the 2020 lockdown. I was a 10 year old horse mad little kid, an equestrian too, and had been looking for a mobile game like Star Stable but without the magic and more realism. 4 years on, and SSO has become my main horse game aside from Rival Stars: Horse Racing. ETG had been an easy, fun game when you didn't think about the graphics or the money you spent, and the only reason I still have it installed on my phone is due to the money I've spent - when I know now I shouldn't. My issues with ETG which aren't so much with SSO: - The gaits of the horses are lazy - and yes you have to train them but unlike SSO you don't have a definite answer of how much EXP you'll get with a training session. - The mane/tail styles used to fit the models - tacky, untextured, but they fit. Now they look so cartoony and completely out of place. - The horse models themselves. Rattle, I'm pretty sure you covered this in a pervious video but they do look like they're made out of play-doh which is a complete clickbait for what we were expecting, as the promo pics for the breeds looked so good. - Pricing: The pricing of tack, clothing ect. is obscene. The pricing of the gold of which you purchase the said items is worse. Like I said, the only reason I have the game still installed is due to the real money I have spent on the game. - Development: The game has no development. It's that simple. Since its release, like you covered, we've barely gotten anything - not even new markings for the horses (e.g. Pinto/Rabicano/Dapples/Overo ect...) and it infuriates me due to the fact that they did hint at a pinto marking but never fell through with it. ETG is a money-grabbing sham of an equestrian game if you can even call it that. I was watching it develop and change since the age of 10 or younger. Those developers knew there were young kids out there like me desperate for a good and well represented equestrian game with a reality to how it really is for caring for equines. They used the enthusiasm of children, teens, and adults alike to feed the shammy and miscommunicated development and general game in itself. I'm sure that this game in a year/two years will go bankrupt due to how toxic the devs are and how they duped us all into believing what they wanted us to.
I think one of the biggest issues was that it was so hyped when it was announced. They rushed through development to throw something out and it was just disappointing
@@sppokyghost Yes! I really think they did, and they wanted to appease the community by rushing the game that could've been great - the game is mediocre now :(
The way this game has turned out is so disappointing. I was a patreon back then (did they ever even gave out rewards for that?? Idts), and was so excited to have a good horse game with cool mechanics and beautiful horses and animations. A while ago I uninstalled the game cause it was just wasting space on my phone. It's sad how they went from always sharing what they were doing to now basically only Anthaea (idk if that'show you write her name sorry) shows up to say what's going on, and even then if we show concerns it just gets brushed off, like "sucks to be you, get used to it". At this point I'm just following them out of morbid curiosity, to see when will the lens crack for them, and if when that happens will it be too late or not...
They could have mitigated the financial strain from the start if they had added paid subscriptions that add certain quality of life boosts, like faster training, faster breeding, breeding at no cost, free market refresh, etc. Maybe a certain amount of coins per week for VIP players. This would be enticing enough for players to buy and support them, without making the game unplayable for free players. Also, the biggest issue here is that they are charging a lot for a game that barely offers anything in return. The gameplay is stale. There is still only one type of competition available. No new colors, marking variations, etc. Yes, pintos are coming, but what about dapples, rabicanos, tovers, overos, and soooo many other coats and mane and tail colors. At the current rate it will take years for them to add any substantial variety to the horses in the game. They keep saying that development is slow, and often keep saying the reason for no new competitions is that they are reworking the riding system. Why in the bloody hell is that taking so f-ing long? Why work on the useless player card, manes, tails, pintos, etc. when there is nothing to play with other than jumping and mindless riding in limited riding areas??? Heck, even breeding is pointless when there are so few color options, and no other competitions that make use of the horses' skills. Ranch of Rivershine, albeit single player, has achieved a TON more in less than a year since EA release by ONE PERSON, than this bloody game that's been out for a few years and is being developed by a team of developers. Who is pulling who by the nose here? I mean seriously. At this point they are making themselves look either extremely incompetent or just plain stupid. Either way, I am done. I lost interest long before these changes, and I am not gaining a speck of it back now.
I don't know if they changed it during the last week since I dropped the game but the changes in competitions also affected the Season pass heavily because the fact that it costs you all of your horses stamina to enter one single competition, it's been impossible to unlock stuff in the season pass since you collect XP at a snail's pace. You now have to pay for the season pass, and pay to have the XP to unlock the rewards in said pass. They are milking their players shamelessly and hiding behind financial trouble to cover it up Moreover, "unlocking" new competitions takes forever as well, even if you already have grand prix horses from the season before, you have to unlock each level all over again each season, which is not helped by the fact that , on my phone at least, the updated arenas and meadow make the game lag and freeze like it never did before, which makes competition harder than it ever was before. There was also a bug for at least 2 weeks before the update, where on the grand prix qualifier your horse would stop between the last 2 jumps and just freeze in place. you couldnt ask it to walk, trot or canter, just back up. I had to redo that competition 5 times to get any of my horses to go past that since the moment the jump animation finished on the second to last jump to horse would stop and freeze
And I thought Star Stable was greedy...ETG just takes the cake. I do wish that a really good horse game would come out one day, it's unfortunate how many of them just fail.
I was so excited for dressage, and the possibility of doing lateral exercises in a horse game, but its been so long with now news. I honestly believe theyre just working on the season clothes and trail ride area, since thats all they put out. They ruined their own game with the crazy pricing, so now I'll probably never play it again. It got boring months ago anyway
They absolutely were only focusing on season environments, tack and the pintos. No actual game content. Cross country would have been easily implemented in game and dressage not that far off.
@@YTRattle Just found out that they removed my comments on their videos! While I can see the comments still on my end (which makes me think its more so a sort of blocking they did) my comments cannot be seen by anyone else. I noticed this today only because I replied to someone but when i did the relpy number didnt add up correctly. So i checked if my comments can be see via a different account, and nope, removed fully for other ppl. I'll comment below the only 2 comments I made on their videos
This was the first one i did on their ETG｜An important message vid (the one ima guess given the timing is the one they blocked me for "Has it actually been a bad year for games? The last couple of years has been not great for games as in the rise of games that give bare minimum (or worst) gameplay despite demanding money from it's users. So to say you must add more micro transactions feels a bit tone def to what actually helps a game in the long run."
And the second one that I just tried to reply to a user today with on the ETG｜More coins for the same amount of money? vid, which caused me to notice the comments weren't showing up. (for context a user was saying in short, give the devs a break they need to eat and pay rent too) "Everyone has to pay rent and eat. But the devs cannot expect a game with such little content to be bought/invested by players for such high prices. Those players need to pay rent and eat too, not spending money on a product that isnt worth the value"
how fun it is to ever so often get reccomended a video from the equestrian gaming community and see that they still got no good games besides a few sims and minecraft mods. you guys are troopers, as someone from the sonic community lol
@@cephalonaural6854 In what way? You can actually pay once for lifetime and never have to spend another penny. So you can play the game, do quests and train your other horses while you wait out the days to get enough Star Coins. A pretty darn good system in comparison. You can enjoy the game without paying more than necessary.
Oh boy. As much as I was waiting for you to make this video, I REALLY want to hear your review of what they did just last week. I didn't think it could get any worse.
I uninstalled the game. I understand they need money to build a game but this is obscene. This feels like they're punishing players for not spending money on the game. Also, this isn't going to pressure new players into buying coins, it'll just push them out. Okay, you said that so I'll stop there. Lol! Honestly, what are they doing? I came in when breeding was added and that was the last big update.
Giving my opinion on the gaming industry situation as someone who is working in the field. My personal experience is that in the last half year or so the situation got worse by a lot at least in the european area especially for indie studios. As publishers and generally the people with money for funding games have watched how after covid they didnt get as much money back as they used to from funding games they are now coming to the conclusion to stop taking on new projects with developers unless they can ensure that they are going to get back x-times the money they will be spending on production. We are pumping out ideas and proposals like never before, so are many other european studios and publishers are really reluctant to bite. This hits hard, as small studios are relying on ongoing deals with publishers back to back without much downtime in the middle to pay their employees. Over the last months many small studios closed or released a big chunk of their employees with things not seeming to get better soon. I myself am uncertain how long and if i can stay working in the field in some months time while some coworkers have already said their good byes recently. So this is the situation... i have no idea though what the ETG devs business model is though. If they rely on publishers or not, what other projects they pursue or if they are soley focused on ETG.. The way they handle things is certainly not transparent with players nor is it a smart way to try and squeeze out every last cent of a game with an established fanbase for a short period of time and killing it off in the long run. It's not just a short dip in the market, we are probably preparing for a marathon of survival in the game industry and quick solutions wont cut it.
It's wild how nearly every horse game falls into this trap. Even as someone who doesn't really play horse games in general, it's still rough to see. What will it take to good a decent horse game? I'm half tempted to make one myself now, just because...
They are just digging their own grave at this point. I wouldnt be surprised if they made a video months later named "we are shutting down etg". I have uninstalled it from my phone but i stil play sometimes on the computer so hopefully they learn from this and make stuff they promised. I stil wonder what happend to the new ridning system they said they was working on like 1 year ago
I have played ETG since launch. I loved it! Its repetitive, but it's realistic and a good way for me to kill time when my job is slow. I liked the graphics even though the original renderings were nerfed for lower quality. I thought the seasons were cute and I really enjoyed training. I didnt even mind the ads because i could get 2x the exp for training, and speed up breeding. I actually spent money on the game for the first time ever after ads were released because i was excited about breeding and all of the matching tack sets. Then they talked about pinto coats and getting rid of the braided tail, and i was even more excited! Like wow, i wont have to sell a horse i bred because i hate the tail. THEN THEY DID THE UNTHINKABLE and made the manes and tails SO UGLY. I am not adverse to change. I played many horse games over the past 20 years and they all change. But these manes and tails truly suck, but i did appreciate the new realistic world shading. I also didnt mind the economy updates, except competition rewards didnt increase. And i hated that a horse lost 100 energy for each comp. Too much annoying tapping but whatever ill deal. Also i have literally 18,000 carrots so no problem... I continued to play. Then they released this upgrade and i immediately uninstalled. Yeah. No. The game is no longer free to play and its all locked behind a paywall. The "breeding packages" better include starter horses with 700+ potential otherwise it is SCUMMY to sucker in new players with 100-200 pot horses and make them breed all the way up to GP. Breeding high pot wasnt exactly easy previously. Also, locking 3/5 breeds behind a paywall? Super scummy. Whatever. Good for them. New players will come rolling in and older players will continue to play. But i wont be one of them.
I agree with what you said here. I had high hopes for this game but it keeps somehow getting worse... The only reason I'm keeping the game installed is because I have a lot of cool horses and I just kinda hope this game will somehow get fixed....
You can only have a certain amount of carrots before purchasing more with money? Well its a good thing I have over 7000 carrots without spending a single penny
Thankyou for this. My sense of betrayal at their paywalling the trailer horses was intense but soon turned to anger. I found your first video about them and felt they deserved a second negative. You delivered. I've not uninstalled because I'm hoping they'll undo it and I can resume my cremello fresian project, but I haven't high hopes. Just desperate ones. I won't ever give them another cent either way, so their greedy grab has backfired for this consistent season pass buyer. On the plus side, looking for options led me to your video on Ranch of Rivershine and that's where my next game budget is going. I've spent more than 600 hours in Paleo Pines, a game who's story can be completed in an afternoon if you try hard and then time is spent tending crops, cleaning pens and looking for more pretty/rare dino friends. I think the Grind of Rivershine might actually appeal to me. And the developer(s?) seems way less greedy than others right now. Thanks!
Horse games need to step it up, I’m tired of this greed just because the horse game market is low key desperate, if people actually made games and weren’t getting greedy we wouldn’t NEED to be so desperate, I’ll spend money when the game is good just as I did on sso back in 2014-2016, now I won’t spend a single penny on sso because it’s simply undeserving of my money and isn’t the product I paid 50$ for on a lifetime membership years ago
For browser horse sims I recommend Horse World Online... it's like 1 of 2 existing browser horse games that isn't a desperate cash grab (you can get premium currency easily and consistently, it's turn based so no rollover, there are some permanent upgrades that cost money but they're both reasonable and entirely optional... the most expensive is $25 and the cheapest is $2). And it scratches the same breeding itch as ETG
which I mean you don't have the riding like ETG does (which is the main reason I played it) but... it's a great example of devs who actually care about their community and players.
I'm in a few fb groups for ETG and in one of them a mod is being aggressively positive in their support for the devs, like if you post ANYTHING even mildly critical they comment with something like how "the devs are working hard and we need to be positive!!" It's honestly so tiring, I feel like I can't express myself honestly in that group, but it's the biggest group so far so I don't want to just leave it
6:44 --- I also cracked up like you did 😂 How generous they are, lmao Edit: At first I was curious when I first heard about this game and I tried it myself, but I was frustrated, bored and so done after not even half an hour just from the gameplay. I didn't even give any attention to the monetary stuff. I don’t like playing horse games on mobile anyway, it doesn't feel as immersive like on a computer screen. It feels very repetitive.. The creators of this game honestly just come across as if they literally snack on money. Yummy...
It’s all about money I understand if they actually made GOOD updates that players always comment about under their posts, the only interesting thing we have in this game are the seasons that in my experience get really boring after a while and AGAIN you still have to spend money on clothes ect. Can I also mention the fact that I don’t really understand why they put their efforts into changing the manes and tails (really pointless imo) when we are still waiting for paints and other stuff? It just feels like a big scam, I’m just disappointed
The Maine and tail change was legit due to the pintos coming to my understanding so the manes and tails can also be pinto. So I kinda understood that bit
im sad this game went down the rabbit hole of microtransactions, it cleary had a bunch of potential but ig every game needs to turn into a shabby mobile game...
Change is good but this... is not change... it is just flat out robbery XD :'D What the bush are they doing p..p I feel bad for people that just find this game today because if I was one of them I would turn around and run into the sunset without looking back ever again p...p
hey rattle i had an odd request - have you been into the Strideway discord server? ( strideway is a popular upcoming roblox horse game! ) if you havent they are VERY toxic.. its mostly the staff members - i have photo evidence of them fat shaming me and my cat and being so disrespectful to other people..
I've followed this game since it's early development. It promised to be SO much more than it currently is, the discord thing turned me off from the game but I've tried coming back a couple times and the lack of content or real updates just turned me off entirely. I understand that games all have to start somewhere and I can appreciate that the ETG team may need a few more years to get the ball rolling. Honestly though? So far this game has been nothing but microtransactions and very much so gives a "pay to win" feeling if you want anything nice in game. Equestriad is a fairly good game, has a pretty similar feel to ETG, has microtransactions but it doesn't exclude you or make it impossible for you to get some premium items if you can't pay insane amounts of money. AND the game has way more content! When ETG has more game mechanics and technically is capable of having more content than Equestriad, *somehow* Equestriad is the better game.
Helldivers is a really good example of a small game developer team pulling together really well. They are not charging an astronomical price, they understand that their game has issues and are actually discouraging people from buying or playing it until they can get everything worked out. And because of that transparency and because they're constantly working on fixing this, people are absolutely flocking to this game. It doesn't have to be perfect, and in fact it doesn't even have to work 100% of the time. If you have a good concept, you have good graphics, and you're not charging an astronomical amount, people will see this and flock to it and you will make more than what you are projected to make. The problem comes with games like this is they think they're only way of making money or revenue is by putting all these microtransactions and when in reality that hurts the game because no one wants to spend $100 for small little microtransactions just to be able to customize hairstyles
If your barn is over level 10 for me to upgrade my horse barn to level 11 in this game I think it’s 59 coin now it was 70,000 cash which wasn’t a big deal for me because I have like 130,000 now but I’m not gonna spend 59 coin on that. I’ll just weed out horses that I don’t ride much.
I've been waiting for this!! Can't wait to watch. I was down the reddit rabithole as soon as this dumb update came out Edit: Just finished and could have said this better myself. They 100% have been taking advantage of everyone and its absolutely time they got called out.
I hate the fact I was excited about this game. Always claiming to be the most ‘realistic’ game, yet couldn’t groom or bond with your horse other than riding. And now, just wanting people to pay over $100 for coins, and forcing players to spend coins on horses. Nope! I’m gone. They’ve got a long way to go to bring me back.
Well this certainly explains why I've been getting more ads about this game. I only played this game ONCE (1-1,5year ago?) for like an hour, got bored and deleted it. It is very sad to see this game be in this state and that it hasn't gotten any better since their discord fiasco. Also them leading you to their website where prices are more expensive should be illegal because it FEELS illegal thing to do. Anyway, love your vids & thank you for making them + keeping up with news about horse games in this industry
does anyone know how many people are in the developing team now? I remember at the beginning it was just the molly girl and maybe 2 - 3 additional people. they claimed that they are going to hire a new team after full launch if I remeber it corectlly, but with the nothing updates (downgrades) I am wondering whether they aren't cutting the budget on the staff too
11:04 There have been so many tells with this company as to how crooked they are but the "simple" braided tail issue was by far the most obvious for me. Yes, there are more glaring, serious issues of greed and questionable (at best) morals but let's look at the core necessities of maintaining a game. They need patches and fixes, often. It's just a fact of operating a game. Why then, in the name of all things equestrian, did it take a FULL YEAR just to fix the braided tails, when they could pump out two updates nearly back to back with so many debilitating changes? Because they want core cosmetic and mechanic updates to feel like a monumental favor. They want you, the player, to believe that "yes, we're listening! Yes, we care!" while the devs continue doing the least. It should NOT, for any reason, have taken that long to fix the tails. And for any who may not have been following the ETG updates, it's not a matter of them just ignoring the no-braided-tails request for a year, no, they ANNOUNCED plans to fix it and then took over a year. That's what you're getting with this dev team, if you plan to stick around. Want foals? Better give 'em at least another year. Dressage? Oh gee, that's a tall order, maybe another 3 years? Who has THAT MUCH time to wait around for a mobile game to get better? No no, not better, just be a finished full game for crying out loud. ETG has been sitting at "incomplete" for years, it's laughable. Take a look at Kavalry's website, peruse their work ethics and beliefs on that page. On the face it looks wholesome but companies that try so hard to look one way are so obviously nothing but toxic on the inside. They continue to push this image of being a "small, scrappy start-up" dev company but all I've seen are small minds and most of their employees probably begging for a scrap of creativity. I'm out.
I'm a F2P player by heart. However, if I'm really enjoying the game I'm playing, I will look for ways to support the devs. If I feel like I'm being milked for money, I'm 100% less likely to give you my money. It's because of people who have too much disposable income, who feed these predatory monetisation practices without a care, devs just keep doing it. For example, I bought the DLC for Baldur's Gate 3 (which gave you a couple cosmetic items, some consumables and potions as well as soundtrack files) simply because I wanted to throw more money at the devs for making such a stupendous game. Or at least I, personally, had such a blast playing it.
I vote as the comments we all just come together and make a FREE decent horse game between all thousands of people we have to have enough random skills we could do it 😂
Makes me so upset to see a community I once cared about and did so much for getting screwed over like this, while again leaving all the backlash to a community manager, yikes!! Players really did not deserve this, I am so disappointed to see where the game went.
I swear they've js upped the prices of e-coin horses as well. Literally right now in the update. All the ones I've looked at in the shop (3 refreshes) cost 75 ecoins instead of the (slightly) more reasonable 45-55 e-coins. Such a cash grab at this point
They have the same business model as a kid that thinks charging £50 at a lemonade stand will make them rich, not realising that less people are going to be willing to spend that, and are unlikely to return to buy again, meaning their income may be less or equal to what it was before despite the charge increase
I gave up on this game shortly after it released to the UK. Completed all the competitions within a day and when they updated the game making it harder I just stopped playing as the amount of bugs was insane
@@brynleepulsipher1046 same with me. Once my first horse was fully maxed out I lost interest and didn’t have the motivation to do another one, same with Star Stable. I’m on a few ETG groups on Facebook and players are raging with the new currency system or something along those lines with paying E-coins to examine some horses
And their recent update? Where the price of custom creation horses has been UPPED? It was 90 coins flat before, but now it's 99-149 coins for the same thing?? And the way that you can't even get access to pintos without purchasing them with coins?
The micro transactions remind me of Dreamlight Valley. There’s “we need this to keep the game going” and then there’s Gameloft greed where the second people aren’t feeding their greed they shut down your servers and steal all the money you put in..
I didn't mind the game at first. I really liked the designs, but there wasn't much guidance. For a while, they just told me to "upgrade my horse" in order to enter the grand prix, but they never told me what needed upgrades.
Honestly the way Rival Stars does their mobile system is top tier. Wait times suck for training and such, but the fact that I can earn gold coins by having good horses compete in live events? My favorite system. Completely the opposite of star stable and ETG
And the PC version is a very reasonable one time purchase! I mean people get mad bc PC updates more slowly but compared to stuff like this.., I see nothing to complain about
I don't care about their reasons. If they want/need money, they can do it like any other decent game and throw out cosmetics. People LOVE buying cosmetics, no matter their age. Do some for all tastes and you're good to go. There is NO need to cripple a game with microtransactions to simply just PLAY the game if you have plenty other means to justify something with an irl money tag to it. Make special buildings that are NOT needed for basic gameplay, make cosmetics nobody truly needs but wants, make special horsecoats or markings, etc.. There is SO many options, yet they went with the ones that usually kill a game. How sad.
Before the game even came out I tried to apply to a ux junior internship because the team sounded nice and I really loved that there is people out there who seemed to care about horse games. Got a rejection. Really sad this is how it turned out and happy I didn't get accepted.
I was a supporter of this game since the first hour, I followed it's development very eagerly. When it finally released I bought every Season pass and bought coins several times for around a year. Within this time frame absolutely nothing happened. After the incident with their Discord they have lost my trust and I stopped pumping money into ETG and shortly after I quit completely. I'm still following their progress but meanwhile I am pretty convinced that they are scamming their community. I really really doubt that they work on any significant content for this game any longer and I'm very sure there's no new content coming anymore ever. They haven't shown any progress since years, there weren't any WIPs or teasers anymore since literally forever. This game isn't gonna change, I'm pretty sure about that.
I remember being super hyped for this game when it was in the making. I had super high hopes for it. When I actually played it. I was kind of bored of the playstyle... The graphics also didn't ook the best imo either, so I just quit after like a day or two. I mean, I am pretty sure the company is kind of on the smaller side, so can't expect too crazy of stuff.
Not even coins every week, there's actually no logic or sense about what you get for your daily reward, it's all random. So the shiny purple and gold box on day seven is a complete lie
This was a weird video to make! If I got anything wrong, please let me know! ♥I also want to make it clear, yes I want ETG to succeed, but for them to do that they need to address the quality of the game FIRST before they start upping prices. Hope you all enjoy! And thanks for watching!
All I can say is Agree agree agree again and again
How do you play this on PC?
@@Levi_Yourproblemisme I use BlueStacks to play mobile games including ETG on my pc, its easy to use and free. There are videos on YT that show how to download it as well.
There are loads more programs that do the same, but I like using BlueStacks. Hope I was able to help :)
No you got it all right. All right I'd say even with humour☺️ il reply more later.
I use LDPlayer or Bluestacks ^^@@Levi_Yourproblemisme
It’s kind of sad how horse games just capitalize on how desperate equestrians are for a good game.
It is so sad! Horse games just can't catch a break!
Then there's Ranch of Rivershine
@@kitieriwhite7758ranch or rivershine just chilling lol
@@cephalonaural6854 Ranch of Rivershine developer did right way first created few other smaller games who will give them profit before go on horse game
I know right! I can never be a good star stable player, and now it’s going to take me so long to become a better ETG player! This sucks!
“Slowly kill the game” bro I thought it died already 💀
this game kinda dead for me even before was released to my country and after release was just another Tamagotchi type game do chores and leave xD
$134 cold, hard smackeroos for 1474 premium coins? At least with Star Stable, you get a lifetime subscription and a weekly allowance of 100 SC. Whatever they are smoking, snorting, whatever it is, I want some too. Then again, they'd charge for that too, so nevermind.
People are already struggling to pay for basic daily needs... Like why would they pay for some imaginary coins with no real value ?? 😂
People are already struggling to pay for their basic daily needs, so why would they purchase some imaginary coins with no real value?? 😂
I'm getting tired of this pattern of greedy horse game devs.
i still believe in the theory that sso has cursed every other horse game using witchcraft so that they stay on top icl
Ooof! That is a really interesting (possibly true) theory!
I know that Horse Isle 3 has some goofy graphics to it, but it's still pretty fun. I think that it's also a lot easier to acquire good horses and establish yourself in that game without paying for anything. That's one game that I think may eventually have an edge over SSO as the dev team continues to add more features.
@@emmahilburn1732 the problem with hi3 is theyre pathetically RADICALLY homophobic and transphobic despite a LARGE portion of their players being queer. its been so bad that you can get banned for using the rainbow emoji or stating your pronouns! you cant say in public that youre nonbinary or that you have a (same gender) significant other but the moderators and other straight people can talk all about their husbands and boyfriends with no consequence.
theyve alienated a large portion of their playerbase with their insane behavior. when i played a couple years ago there were on average around 300 players but now there MIGHT be 100 people on at the same time. its ironic that the developers and moderaters hate queer people yet the character builder is so insanely flexible and the game uses they them pronouns for all dialogue.
@@emmahilburn1732 HI3 did have problems with company homophobia, you can read about that on yhe manequest blog actually! But also its super annoying for deleting your account if you haven't played for a couple months. I spent 10s of hours grinding constantly just for my account to disappear and for the staff to be pretty passive aggressive about it
Oohhh I like that theory 😂
I played this game when it came out for like an hour and was so shocked with the amount of money I would have to spend if I wanted to actually have fun I immedietly uninstalled. you're telling me it got worse???? :')
the whole reason I wanted to try this game is because the team said they wanted to be different than the other money hungry companies
I still play it occasionally but I can proudly say that I have never spent a single cent on this game, and never will :)
Every time I enter the store to look at new tack (which I don't find that appealing anyway) I just take a look at the prices and I'm like 'nope' 😂
Seeing the video however makes me really glad I updated everything to full capacity when you could still pay with the other money instead of gold
I never trust people who explicitly try to pull the 'not like other girls' card when it comes to their products. Actions speak louder than words
@@NeonJJ_195I’ve never spent a cent on etg, and I’m glad. It’s sad what their doing to the game, I can’t even afford horses other than Arabians and welsh cobs
"the team said they wanted to be different than the other money hungry companies."
They were right. They are different. They are worse than other money hungry companies.
@@NLance Fr
The graphics are disappointing, I really expected something more.
Yeah, especially with how modern phones like the Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 15PM are literally capable of almost PC level graphics with raytracing capabilities.
They were better....before the greed
The way i got an AD for ETG while you were explaining the horrible +134 gold coins killed me😭
😂😂
My biggest critique is that they haven't added anything particularly new, yet expect people to pay more. The showjumping and training gets repetitive. It's a game that loses it's charm after hours of doing the same thing.
Kinda glad I dipped out of this game early on, oof what a mess. I swear companies that make horse games are 9 times out of 10 the absolute WORST. My friend was venting to me about Star Equestrian, who recently dropped a 300$ horse (Among other really greedy things). Well, I think more like 370$ because you need pay VIP first in order to even get it. So an almost a 400$ horse. And since it's all gacha, there is only a 10% chance of even getting it! How fun. Ugh, people just want a nice horse game, is that too much to ask? Yes, apparently it is.
300$ for a pixel horse?! And AFTER paying to be VIP?? That’s actually insane
At that price you can rescue an actual horse 😂
@@superlativesultan6165😂😂😂 true!!! Crazy
I actually dropped my phone on my toe when I saw the title. How are they adding more microtransactions? You already have to pay enough as it is....
Hope the toe is okay! And yes, they added more!
Here to confirm toe is okay, it's taking a break in the hottub. The fact that they added more really made me laugh though.@@YTRattle
Rattle: Or that channel that keeps me from being disappointed for spending money or my time for trash
“WHAT THE HELL ETG”
i started following etg’s development in 2017 it’s crazy to see how greedy they’ve gotten while not giving us half the content they planned to add to the game.
I noticed, and it is quite sad. I was looking forward to buying 4 stalls for 90k cash, but when I got that and looked again it was 39 e-coins. I don't want to be spending real life money on a game like such. I understand they have to make money, but the new update is ridiculous. The competion thing too, I don't want to have to spend that many carrots to compete!
Man, i aleays feel like lowering pricess works better, more people can access an item or place but hiking it up make it exclusive in a way. I cannot escape from the hellhole world we live in if i have to pay what would be grocieries for a game.
I also cannot do anything as i am jobless and despreately searching.
You would think if they lowered the payments it would mean the more players that would buy into it, the better. This goes for any and all horse games except for Ranch of Rivershine; that game is a breath of fresh air.
9:42 Regarding alienation of loyal players: As a longterm player I can say I have way too much money saved up over the months for this to really affect me, and I know many other end-game players are in the same boat. I'd imagine the worst hand was dealt to new-ish people who started playing a bit before this update, but who hadn't yet reached end-game when it dropped and therefore have to suffer the consequences without having the luxury of not knowing (''Ignorance is bliss'') that brand new players will have.
u can reach an end?
@@Jiminfied I call it endgame whenever you've upgraded all your buildings as the few things left to work towards after that point (training horse stats, competing, breeding) have no game-defined goals. You can put up goals for yourself, but that's about it
@@Hjartstilla ah, that makes sense. thank you for explaining
Rival Stars Horse racing will always be the best mobile horse game💯
Edit:I’ve been contemplating deleting ETG anyway and this recent update is doing ETG no favors
I think the PC version of Rival Stars Horse Racing is way better imo, their mobile game is a lot more restricted in comparison to their PC version unless you're willing to pay more money.
@@shadow14805 I’ve been able to play a bunch of the game without having to pay for anything. I recently bought a 2 month star club membership because I think the game is worth it. There’s a lot I’d like to see in Rival Stars but I really think the team is doing their best with what they have. Rival Stars doesn’t come off as greedy like ETG. The tack is expensive in Rival Stars but it’s easy to make the silver needed to buy a set.
I ADORE Rival Stars, PC is better though, but even the mobile version is amazing.
It does look outstanding but I'm refusing to give money to the racing industry.
@@superlativesultan6165rival stars... isn't the racing industry? and also you can get premium currency fairly easily as a free player so I'd recommend
I hope they really fall on their ass with this decision, this game is not even good enough to pay for those season passes. Maybe then they'll be less greedy.
Equestrian The Game devs competing against themselves to see just how much more they can butcher their image and ruin their game
I had been following the game right back at the start of the 2020 lockdown. I was a 10 year old horse mad little kid, an equestrian too, and had been looking for a mobile game like Star Stable but without the magic and more realism. 4 years on, and SSO has become my main horse game aside from Rival Stars: Horse Racing. ETG had been an easy, fun game when you didn't think about the graphics or the money you spent, and the only reason I still have it installed on my phone is due to the money I've spent - when I know now I shouldn't.
My issues with ETG which aren't so much with SSO:
- The gaits of the horses are lazy - and yes you have to train them but unlike SSO you don't have a definite answer of how much EXP you'll get with a training session.
- The mane/tail styles used to fit the models - tacky, untextured, but they fit. Now they look so cartoony and completely out of place.
- The horse models themselves. Rattle, I'm pretty sure you covered this in a pervious video but they do look like they're made out of play-doh which is a complete clickbait for what we were expecting, as the promo pics for the breeds looked so good.
- Pricing: The pricing of tack, clothing ect. is obscene. The pricing of the gold of which you purchase the said items is worse. Like I said, the only reason I have the game still installed is due to the real money I have spent on the game.
- Development: The game has no development. It's that simple. Since its release, like you covered, we've barely gotten anything - not even new markings for the horses (e.g. Pinto/Rabicano/Dapples/Overo ect...) and it infuriates me due to the fact that they did hint at a pinto marking but never fell through with it.
ETG is a money-grabbing sham of an equestrian game if you can even call it that. I was watching it develop and change since the age of 10 or younger. Those developers knew there were young kids out there like me desperate for a good and well represented equestrian game with a reality to how it really is for caring for equines. They used the enthusiasm of children, teens, and adults alike to feed the shammy and miscommunicated development and general game in itself. I'm sure that this game in a year/two years will go bankrupt due to how toxic the devs are and how they duped us all into believing what they wanted us to.
SSO it's more better of this greedy trash.
I think one of the biggest issues was that it was so hyped when it was announced. They rushed through development to throw something out and it was just disappointing
@@sppokyghost Yes! I really think they did, and they wanted to appease the community by rushing the game that could've been great - the game is mediocre now :(
The way this game has turned out is so disappointing. I was a patreon back then (did they ever even gave out rewards for that?? Idts), and was so excited to have a good horse game with cool mechanics and beautiful horses and animations. A while ago I uninstalled the game cause it was just wasting space on my phone. It's sad how they went from always sharing what they were doing to now basically only Anthaea (idk if that'show you write her name sorry) shows up to say what's going on, and even then if we show concerns it just gets brushed off, like "sucks to be you, get used to it". At this point I'm just following them out of morbid curiosity, to see when will the lens crack for them, and if when that happens will it be too late or not...
I don't think they have given any of the rewards! They also took down the patreon, so you can't see the rewards anymore.
It's really messed up.
They could have mitigated the financial strain from the start if they had added paid subscriptions that add certain quality of life boosts, like faster training, faster breeding, breeding at no cost, free market refresh, etc. Maybe a certain amount of coins per week for VIP players. This would be enticing enough for players to buy and support them, without making the game unplayable for free players.
Also, the biggest issue here is that they are charging a lot for a game that barely offers anything in return. The gameplay is stale. There is still only one type of competition available. No new colors, marking variations, etc. Yes, pintos are coming, but what about dapples, rabicanos, tovers, overos, and soooo many other coats and mane and tail colors. At the current rate it will take years for them to add any substantial variety to the horses in the game. They keep saying that development is slow, and often keep saying the reason for no new competitions is that they are reworking the riding system. Why in the bloody hell is that taking so f-ing long? Why work on the useless player card, manes, tails, pintos, etc. when there is nothing to play with other than jumping and mindless riding in limited riding areas??? Heck, even breeding is pointless when there are so few color options, and no other competitions that make use of the horses' skills. Ranch of Rivershine, albeit single player, has achieved a TON more in less than a year since EA release by ONE PERSON, than this bloody game that's been out for a few years and is being developed by a team of developers. Who is pulling who by the nose here? I mean seriously. At this point they are making themselves look either extremely incompetent or just plain stupid. Either way, I am done. I lost interest long before these changes, and I am not gaining a speck of it back now.
I don't know if they changed it during the last week since I dropped the game but the changes in competitions also affected the Season pass heavily because the fact that it costs you all of your horses stamina to enter one single competition, it's been impossible to unlock stuff in the season pass since you collect XP at a snail's pace. You now have to pay for the season pass, and pay to have the XP to unlock the rewards in said pass. They are milking their players shamelessly and hiding behind financial trouble to cover it up
Moreover, "unlocking" new competitions takes forever as well, even if you already have grand prix horses from the season before, you have to unlock each level all over again each season, which is not helped by the fact that , on my phone at least, the updated arenas and meadow make the game lag and freeze like it never did before, which makes competition harder than it ever was before.
There was also a bug for at least 2 weeks before the update, where on the grand prix qualifier your horse would stop between the last 2 jumps and just freeze in place. you couldnt ask it to walk, trot or canter, just back up. I had to redo that competition 5 times to get any of my horses to go past that since the moment the jump animation finished on the second to last jump to horse would stop and freeze
happy to have helped you with the vid!! thank you for putting it all together! 💖
Thank you for all the help!! :D ♥ Glad to make the video ^^
And I thought Star Stable was greedy...ETG just takes the cake. I do wish that a really good horse game would come out one day, it's unfortunate how many of them just fail.
Lifetime and Double Star Coins... greedy. Ok.
@@bard8999Well they did have one of the lifetime options not have star coins every week for a/b testing but the double star coins is nice
I was so excited for dressage, and the possibility of doing lateral exercises in a horse game, but its been so long with now news. I honestly believe theyre just working on the season clothes and trail ride area, since thats all they put out. They ruined their own game with the crazy pricing, so now I'll probably never play it again. It got boring months ago anyway
They absolutely were only focusing on season environments, tack and the pintos. No actual game content. Cross country would have been easily implemented in game and dressage not that far off.
And the cross country jumps they do have are so small and boring! Like cmon add some variation
Ayo someone contact the swedish company going after sso- cus as funny as is... ETG is also swedish 😂
OMG, I forgot about that 😂
I guess they’ll be getting punished with enough attention
This game and its devs remind me of the South Park episode, “Freemium Isn’t Free.” Literally word for word.
I saw the 'Important news' video from them and knew you would be doing a video on them 😂
Lovely video as always.
Thank you Lilcat! ♥♥ That was one weird video they made XD
@@YTRattle Just found out that they removed my comments on their videos! While I can see the comments still on my end (which makes me think its more so a sort of blocking they did) my comments cannot be seen by anyone else.
I noticed this today only because I replied to someone but when i did the relpy number didnt add up correctly. So i checked if my comments can be see via a different account, and nope, removed fully for other ppl.
I'll comment below the only 2 comments I made on their videos
This was the first one i did on their ETG｜An important message vid (the one ima guess given the timing is the one they blocked me for
"Has it actually been a bad year for games? The last couple of years has been not great for games as in the rise of games that give bare minimum (or worst) gameplay despite demanding money from it's users.
So to say you must add more micro transactions feels a bit tone def to what actually helps a game in the long run."
And the second one that I just tried to reply to a user today with on the ETG｜More coins for the same amount of money? vid, which caused me to notice the comments weren't showing up. (for context a user was saying in short, give the devs a break they need to eat and pay rent too)
"Everyone has to pay rent and eat. But the devs cannot expect a game with such little content to be bought/invested by players for such high prices. Those players need to pay rent and eat too, not spending money on a product that isnt worth the value"
I removed the block words sometime back, I have no idea what's going on! @@LilCatSillyTheSillyOne
how fun it is to ever so often get reccomended a video from the equestrian gaming community and see that they still got no good games besides a few sims and minecraft mods. you guys are troopers, as someone from the sonic community lol
Imagine needed to purchase real money for all horses *looks at starstable*
Eh, as long as you're Star Rider and patient, you can wait a couple weeks to get the newest horse.
@@iclynnxthat’s,, still not good lmfao
@@cephalonaural6854 In what way? You can actually pay once for lifetime and never have to spend another penny. So you can play the game, do quests and train your other horses while you wait out the days to get enough Star Coins. A pretty darn good system in comparison. You can enjoy the game without paying more than necessary.
@@iclynnxdon't new horses come out like every month?
Oh boy. As much as I was waiting for you to make this video, I REALLY want to hear your review of what they did just last week. I didn't think it could get any worse.
The fact that someone is probably paid to make theses marketing choices is alarming lol.
I uninstalled the game. I understand they need money to build a game but this is obscene. This feels like they're punishing players for not spending money on the game. Also, this isn't going to pressure new players into buying coins, it'll just push them out. Okay, you said that so I'll stop there. Lol!
Honestly, what are they doing? I came in when breeding was added and that was the last big update.
It feels exactly like that! We're beig punished for their poor choices.
Giving my opinion on the gaming industry situation as someone who is working in the field. My personal experience is that in the last half year or so the situation got worse by a lot at least in the european area especially for indie studios. As publishers and generally the people with money for funding games have watched how after covid they didnt get as much money back as they used to from funding games they are now coming to the conclusion to stop taking on new projects with developers unless they can ensure that they are going to get back x-times the money they will be spending on production. We are pumping out ideas and proposals like never before, so are many other european studios and publishers are really reluctant to bite.
This hits hard, as small studios are relying on ongoing deals with publishers back to back without much downtime in the middle to pay their employees. Over the last months many small studios closed or released a big chunk of their employees with things not seeming to get better soon. I myself am uncertain how long and if i can stay working in the field in some months time while some coworkers have already said their good byes recently.
So this is the situation... i have no idea though what the ETG devs business model is though. If they rely on publishers or not, what other projects they pursue or if they are soley focused on ETG.. The way they handle things is certainly not transparent with players nor is it a smart way to try and squeeze out every last cent of a game with an established fanbase for a short period of time and killing it off in the long run. It's not just a short dip in the market, we are probably preparing for a marathon of survival in the game industry and quick solutions wont cut it.
It's wild how nearly every horse game falls into this trap. Even as someone who doesn't really play horse games in general, it's still rough to see. What will it take to good a decent horse game? I'm half tempted to make one myself now, just because...
They are just digging their own grave at this point. I wouldnt be surprised if they made a video months later named "we are shutting down etg". I have uninstalled it from my phone but i stil play sometimes on the computer so hopefully they learn from this and make stuff they promised. I stil wonder what happend to the new ridning system they said they was working on like 1 year ago
I have played ETG since launch. I loved it! Its repetitive, but it's realistic and a good way for me to kill time when my job is slow. I liked the graphics even though the original renderings were nerfed for lower quality. I thought the seasons were cute and I really enjoyed training. I didnt even mind the ads because i could get 2x the exp for training, and speed up breeding. I actually spent money on the game for the first time ever after ads were released because i was excited about breeding and all of the matching tack sets. Then they talked about pinto coats and getting rid of the braided tail, and i was even more excited! Like wow, i wont have to sell a horse i bred because i hate the tail. THEN THEY DID THE UNTHINKABLE and made the manes and tails SO UGLY. I am not adverse to change. I played many horse games over the past 20 years and they all change. But these manes and tails truly suck, but i did appreciate the new realistic world shading. I also didnt mind the economy updates, except competition rewards didnt increase. And i hated that a horse lost 100 energy for each comp. Too much annoying tapping but whatever ill deal. Also i have literally 18,000 carrots so no problem... I continued to play. Then they released this upgrade and i immediately uninstalled. Yeah. No. The game is no longer free to play and its all locked behind a paywall. The "breeding packages" better include starter horses with 700+ potential otherwise it is SCUMMY to sucker in new players with 100-200 pot horses and make them breed all the way up to GP. Breeding high pot wasnt exactly easy previously. Also, locking 3/5 breeds behind a paywall? Super scummy. Whatever. Good for them. New players will come rolling in and older players will continue to play. But i wont be one of them.
I agree with what you said here. I had high hopes for this game but it keeps somehow getting worse... The only reason I'm keeping the game installed is because I have a lot of cool horses and I just kinda hope this game will somehow get fixed....
You can only have a certain amount of carrots before purchasing more with money? Well its a good thing I have over 7000 carrots without spending a single penny
Thankyou for this. My sense of betrayal at their paywalling the trailer horses was intense but soon turned to anger. I found your first video about them and felt they deserved a second negative. You delivered. I've not uninstalled because I'm hoping they'll undo it and I can resume my cremello fresian project, but I haven't high hopes. Just desperate ones. I won't ever give them another cent either way, so their greedy grab has backfired for this consistent season pass buyer.
On the plus side, looking for options led me to your video on Ranch of Rivershine and that's where my next game budget is going. I've spent more than 600 hours in Paleo Pines, a game who's story can be completed in an afternoon if you try hard and then time is spent tending crops, cleaning pens and looking for more pretty/rare dino friends. I think the Grind of Rivershine might actually appeal to me. And the developer(s?) seems way less greedy than others right now. Thanks!
Horse games need to step it up, I’m tired of this greed just because the horse game market is low key desperate, if people actually made games and weren’t getting greedy we wouldn’t NEED to be so desperate, I’ll spend money when the game is good just as I did on sso back in 2014-2016, now I won’t spend a single penny on sso because it’s simply undeserving of my money and isn’t the product I paid 50$ for on a lifetime membership years ago
For browser horse sims I recommend Horse World Online... it's like 1 of 2 existing browser horse games that isn't a desperate cash grab (you can get premium currency easily and consistently, it's turn based so no rollover, there are some permanent upgrades that cost money but they're both reasonable and entirely optional... the most expensive is $25 and the cheapest is $2). And it scratches the same breeding itch as ETG
which I mean you don't have the riding like ETG does (which is the main reason I played it) but... it's a great example of devs who actually care about their community and players.
Bro they said they’ve been giving the game out for free? Dude it’s a FREE GAME??
I'm in a few fb groups for ETG and in one of them a mod is being aggressively positive in their support for the devs, like if you post ANYTHING even mildly critical they comment with something like how "the devs are working hard and we need to be positive!!"
It's honestly so tiring, I feel like I can't express myself honestly in that group, but it's the biggest group so far so I don't want to just leave it
6:44 --- I also cracked up like you did 😂 How generous they are, lmao
Edit:
At first I was curious when I first heard about this game and I tried it myself, but I was frustrated, bored and so done after not even half an hour just from the gameplay. I didn't even give any attention to the monetary stuff. I don’t like playing horse games on mobile anyway, it doesn't feel as immersive like on a computer screen. It feels very repetitive..
The creators of this game honestly just come across as if they literally snack on money. Yummy...
I got an ad for their game before the video
I really expected more from ETG
It’s all about money
I understand if they actually made GOOD updates that players always comment about under their posts, the only interesting thing we have in this game are the seasons that in my experience get really boring after a while and AGAIN you still have to spend money on clothes ect. Can I also mention the fact that I don’t really understand why they put their efforts into changing the manes and tails (really pointless imo) when we are still waiting for paints and other stuff?
It just feels like a big scam, I’m just disappointed
The Maine and tail change was legit due to the pintos coming to my understanding so the manes and tails can also be pinto. So I kinda understood that bit
im sad this game went down the rabbit hole of microtransactions, it cleary had a bunch of potential but ig every game needs to turn into a shabby mobile game...
Change is good but this... is not change... it is just flat out robbery XD :'D
What the bush are they doing p..p
I feel bad for people that just find this game today because if I was one of them I would turn around and run into the sunset without looking back ever again p...p
Hey Sandy! Yes, it's terrible. A lot of people are disappointed in this game, and for good reason. Thy mucked it up, badly.
hey rattle i had an odd request - have you been into the Strideway discord server? ( strideway is a popular upcoming roblox horse game! ) if you havent they are VERY toxic.. its mostly the staff members - i have photo evidence of them fat shaming me and my cat and being so disrespectful to other people..
I've followed this game since it's early development. It promised to be SO much more than it currently is, the discord thing turned me off from the game but I've tried coming back a couple times and the lack of content or real updates just turned me off entirely.
I understand that games all have to start somewhere and I can appreciate that the ETG team may need a few more years to get the ball rolling. Honestly though? So far this game has been nothing but microtransactions and very much so gives a "pay to win" feeling if you want anything nice in game. Equestriad is a fairly good game, has a pretty similar feel to ETG, has microtransactions but it doesn't exclude you or make it impossible for you to get some premium items if you can't pay insane amounts of money. AND the game has way more content! When ETG has more game mechanics and technically is capable of having more content than Equestriad, *somehow* Equestriad is the better game.
I've never understood free games. They are usually very poorly made, and just keep milking you for money. It never worked for me, personally!
Helldivers is a really good example of a small game developer team pulling together really well. They are not charging an astronomical price, they understand that their game has issues and are actually discouraging people from buying or playing it until they can get everything worked out. And because of that transparency and because they're constantly working on fixing this, people are absolutely flocking to this game. It doesn't have to be perfect, and in fact it doesn't even have to work 100% of the time. If you have a good concept, you have good graphics, and you're not charging an astronomical amount, people will see this and flock to it and you will make more than what you are projected to make. The problem comes with games like this is they think they're only way of making money or revenue is by putting all these microtransactions and when in reality that hurts the game because no one wants to spend $100 for small little microtransactions just to be able to customize hairstyles
People will feel more inclined to buy if they see a drop in prices. Not an increase that's obviously greedy.
If your barn is over level 10 for me to upgrade my horse barn to level 11 in this game I think it’s 59 coin now it was 70,000 cash which wasn’t a big deal for me because I have like 130,000 now but I’m not gonna spend 59 coin on that. I’ll just weed out horses that I don’t ride much.
300->7100?? Not the inflation😂
I've been waiting for this!! Can't wait to watch. I was down the reddit rabithole as soon as this dumb update came out
Edit: Just finished and could have said this better myself. They 100% have been taking advantage of everyone and its absolutely time they got called out.
Kavalri lowkey just picks there players bank accounts and squeezes the living horse 💩 out of it
So glad to say I haven't touched this game in months
I hate the fact I was excited about this game. Always claiming to be the most ‘realistic’ game, yet couldn’t groom or bond with your horse other than riding. And now, just wanting people to pay over $100 for coins, and forcing players to spend coins on horses. Nope! I’m gone. They’ve got a long way to go to bring me back.
Well this certainly explains why I've been getting more ads about this game. I only played this game ONCE (1-1,5year ago?) for like an hour, got bored and deleted it.
It is very sad to see this game be in this state and that it hasn't gotten any better since their discord fiasco. Also them leading you to their website where prices are more expensive should be illegal because it FEELS illegal thing to do.
Anyway, love your vids & thank you for making them + keeping up with news about horse games in this industry
does anyone know how many people are in the developing team now? I remember at the beginning it was just the molly girl and maybe 2 - 3 additional people. they claimed that they are going to hire a new team after full launch if I remeber it corectlly, but with the nothing updates (downgrades) I am wondering whether they aren't cutting the budget on the staff too
Why should people pay for a game if there isn't really a game?? 😒
11:04 There have been so many tells with this company as to how crooked they are but the "simple" braided tail issue was by far the most obvious for me. Yes, there are more glaring, serious issues of greed and questionable (at best) morals but let's look at the core necessities of maintaining a game. They need patches and fixes, often. It's just a fact of operating a game. Why then, in the name of all things equestrian, did it take a FULL YEAR just to fix the braided tails, when they could pump out two updates nearly back to back with so many debilitating changes? Because they want core cosmetic and mechanic updates to feel like a monumental favor. They want you, the player, to believe that "yes, we're listening! Yes, we care!" while the devs continue doing the least. It should NOT, for any reason, have taken that long to fix the tails. And for any who may not have been following the ETG updates, it's not a matter of them just ignoring the no-braided-tails request for a year, no, they ANNOUNCED plans to fix it and then took over a year. That's what you're getting with this dev team, if you plan to stick around. Want foals? Better give 'em at least another year. Dressage? Oh gee, that's a tall order, maybe another 3 years? Who has THAT MUCH time to wait around for a mobile game to get better? No no, not better, just be a finished full game for crying out loud. ETG has been sitting at "incomplete" for years, it's laughable. Take a look at Kavalry's website, peruse their work ethics and beliefs on that page. On the face it looks wholesome but companies that try so hard to look one way are so obviously nothing but toxic on the inside. They continue to push this image of being a "small, scrappy start-up" dev company but all I've seen are small minds and most of their employees probably begging for a scrap of creativity. I'm out.
I'm a F2P player by heart. However, if I'm really enjoying the game I'm playing, I will look for ways to support the devs. If I feel like I'm being milked for money, I'm 100% less likely to give you my money. It's because of people who have too much disposable income, who feed these predatory monetisation practices without a care, devs just keep doing it.
For example, I bought the DLC for Baldur's Gate 3 (which gave you a couple cosmetic items, some consumables and potions as well as soundtrack files) simply because I wanted to throw more money at the devs for making such a stupendous game. Or at least I, personally, had such a blast playing it.
I agree. There's too many people who just enable greedy companies by playing into their greed.
always good when the first you hear about something is controversy
I vote as the comments we all just come together and make a FREE decent horse game between all thousands of people we have to have enough random skills we could do it 😂
Makes me so upset to see a community I once cared about and did so much for getting screwed over like this, while again leaving all the backlash to a community manager, yikes!!
Players really did not deserve this, I am so disappointed to see where the game went.
I stopped playing Equestrian mid last year when things started going south
I swear they've js upped the prices of e-coin horses as well. Literally right now in the update. All the ones I've looked at in the shop (3 refreshes) cost 75 ecoins instead of the (slightly) more reasonable 45-55 e-coins.
Such a cash grab at this point
I'm not an equestrian nor do i play horse games but i feel like i might as well just buy a horse irl if I'm gonna be expected to drop so much money
They took the 'realism' a bit too far! 😂
They have the same business model as a kid that thinks charging £50 at a lemonade stand will make them rich, not realising that less people are going to be willing to spend that, and are unlikely to return to buy again, meaning their income may be less or equal to what it was before despite the charge increase
Now star stables doesn't sound so bad.
I gave up on this game shortly after it released to the UK.
Completed all the competitions within a day and when they updated the game making it harder I just stopped playing as the amount of bugs was insane
I had fun training my first horse on there. After that I got so insanely bored doing the same competitions over and over with no reward that I left.
@@brynleepulsipher1046 same with me. Once my first horse was fully maxed out I lost interest and didn’t have the motivation to do another one, same with Star Stable.
I’m on a few ETG groups on Facebook and players are raging with the new currency system or something along those lines with paying E-coins to examine some horses
And their recent update? Where the price of custom creation horses has been UPPED? It was 90 coins flat before, but now it's 99-149 coins for the same thing?? And the way that you can't even get access to pintos without purchasing them with coins?
The micro transactions remind me of Dreamlight Valley. There’s “we need this to keep the game going” and then there’s Gameloft greed where the second people aren’t feeding their greed they shut down your servers and steal all the money you put in..
every time this game updates the hate grows and the potential just dies istg
I didn't mind the game at first. I really liked the designs, but there wasn't much guidance. For a while, they just told me to "upgrade my horse" in order to enter the grand prix, but they never told me what needed upgrades.
Lol I just got an ETG ad right before this video
Honestly the way Rival Stars does their mobile system is top tier. Wait times suck for training and such, but the fact that I can earn gold coins by having good horses compete in live events? My favorite system. Completely the opposite of star stable and ETG
And the PC version is a very reasonable one time purchase! I mean people get mad bc PC updates more slowly but compared to stuff like this.., I see nothing to complain about
I GOT AN EQUESTRIAN THE GREED AD AT THE START OF THE VID
You know what they say:💰"We've *GOT* to have, *MONEY!* "💸 -Mr. Lickboot🤑
got my dinner and a new rattle video, perfect night 😍
Boy am I glad I deleted that app ages ago. I’m just waiting for ETG to have to shut their servers down when nobody gives a damn anymore.
I don't care about their reasons. If they want/need money, they can do it like any other decent game and throw out cosmetics. People LOVE buying cosmetics, no matter their age. Do some for all tastes and you're good to go. There is NO need to cripple a game with microtransactions to simply just PLAY the game if you have plenty other means to justify something with an irl money tag to it. Make special buildings that are NOT needed for basic gameplay, make cosmetics nobody truly needs but wants, make special horsecoats or markings, etc.. There is SO many options, yet they went with the ones that usually kill a game. How sad.
Before the game even came out I tried to apply to a ux junior internship because the team sounded nice and I really loved that there is people out there who seemed to care about horse games. Got a rejection. Really sad this is how it turned out and happy I didn't get accepted.
Time to go back to logging onto starstable every 5 months xD
I was a supporter of this game since the first hour, I followed it's development very eagerly. When it finally released I bought every Season pass and bought coins several times for around a year. Within this time frame absolutely nothing happened. After the incident with their Discord they have lost my trust and I stopped pumping money into ETG and shortly after I quit completely. I'm still following their progress but meanwhile I am pretty convinced that they are scamming their community. I really really doubt that they work on any significant content for this game any longer and I'm very sure there's no new content coming anymore ever. They haven't shown any progress since years, there weren't any WIPs or teasers anymore since literally forever. This game isn't gonna change, I'm pretty sure about that.
I remember being super hyped for this game when it was in the making. I had super high hopes for it. When I actually played it. I was kind of bored of the playstyle... The graphics also didn't ook the best imo either, so I just quit after like a day or two. I mean, I am pretty sure the company is kind of on the smaller side, so can't expect too crazy of stuff.
Thank you for making a video ❤❤
when she gives you that theranos stare
I don't play any of these horse games but I needed to rewind twice hear that 300 to 7,000 price change. Holy shit that sucks!
I'm so glad I jumped ship back in 2022
ETG now stands for "Extorting Gamers" :))))))
😂 That's so good!!
Not even coins every week, there's actually no logic or sense about what you get for your daily reward, it's all random. So the shiny purple and gold box on day seven is a complete lie
Ranch of rivershine may not be the prettiest horse game but gosh is it trucking along with decent little content updates and no micro transactions
It's really cute!
They’ve just added more of an increase for the price of a horse to 75 coins! It cannot just be me who think these prices are ridiculous 🤦♀️
*Petition for rattle to bring us one good horse game*
Not to mention theres only 2 overpriced horse options to buy that aren't for premium coins now