I remember when MAMA was not just K-pop. Bring that back. MAMA was really doomed when they stopped having 3rd gen idols. There were some good stages, but still.
YESS. And now that there are so many groups that are global and are big/are gonna get big, XG, Katseye, etc this award show wouldve been great to promote at.
"MAMA is more of a popularity contest" .... I'm speechless 💀 Like ... please. How do you think award show choose their winners ? It's purely based on numbers, streams, sales, etc... It's meant this way to be the fairest : results are the representation of what people in general liked the most. No subjectivity, no personnal involvement from some powerfull personnalities, no strange arrangement between super-investissors : just *numbers* you can easily check. It's actually the least biased way to do, since it reposes on facts everyone can verify. We don't need the opinion of some "musical specialists" who places their taste above everyone else, in the name of some obscure "technical knowledges" Numbers are the reflection of regular people's opinions, and if yours are not represented in the results, that's logical and not a problem, since you're not the average person on the planet, and your taste are not necesarly representative of million of others.
I don't support a lot of things YGE does, but them chosing to not let their artists attend the mama awards anymore was a smart move. the mama awards have been a dumpster fire for the last 5 years or so
Exactly how is it an Asia award if u are only taking countries like Korea Japan china Max to max Phillipines like there are more famous artists across Asia
I tuned in for Ateez and as always I loved their performance, I also voted for them on Worldwide Fans Choice because I didn't want them to go there and leave empty handed but if MAMA really ceases to exist I don't think anyone would really miss it anymore.
In my opinion, the lack of interaction between idols is in large part the fault of the new wave of kpop fans. The insane possessiveness, the way they handle interactions with people who like different groups, their eagerness to annihilate any idol who makes a mistake...it's been so sad and so frustrating to watch.
And now, Pharita (baemon) literally just looked at Yeonjun (txt) and a lot of fans are already saying that she's a whore 💀 wtf is happening with the new fans?
this year was HUGE for straykids too. knowing that they weren’t attending MAMA 2023 really hit me in a bad spot because i know they would’ve went home with a lot of silverware from the show
@@MamaKiwi143 I wouldn’t say it’s rigged, they’re just low in digitals in Korea compared to other groups. But kind of expected since we know they aren’t as popular domestically.
MAMA should go back to become ASIAN awards not just KOREAN awards... There are a lot of great talents all over Asia that deserved to be recognized as well.
I enjoy Ateez's performance, how people and idols were enjoying the songs singing and dancing together was really cool and fun. And yes! They were robbed.
@@BELIEVER78989 they didn't. Skz were on vacation during MAMA. Idk about NMIXX but I doubt they were there. From JYPE only Niziu attended MAMA this year.
I also agree with the statement. MAMA should be disappeared immediately because what I saw in the Internet was found to be boring and I don’t like idols having no reactions or supports to their colleagues because in my opinion, this supports not only helps themselves better but also acknowledges each other!
@@unniemoon95 I see. I also agree with the opinion that Ateez and Enhypen should not take part of the MAMA. As their fan, they are talented and they are not deserved to be treated with empty hands like this event.
@@huongvu1685 definitely that was one reason why I watched the 2nd day for Ateez; the lads are way to talented to be on MAMA and not get a single award!
This is why YG's BigBang called MAMA out. YG's artist stopped going to MAMA show. MAMA blacklisted BlackPink, Treasure, and that why Baby Monster don't not going to awards shows. This is what YG is being saying for years.
Treasure was not blacklisted, only bigbang and blackpink, (bigbang due to speaking out and blackpink cuz they held concerts during mama so the popularity declined) Somi is a blacklable artist.
MAMA performances don’t feel the same as anytime BIGBANG performed. It used to feel magical the way performances were done. I enjoyed ATEEZ’s cinematic typed performance this year, but I still don’t find the same spark I used to feel when watching MAMA.
Here in the Philippiness, we anticipate Asia Artist Awards (AAA) more than MAMA Awards. The lineup is much diverse; there are artist/idols from different entertainment, and different gens.
I thought this started happening when companies would have their artists stop attending if they didn't win, which over the years influenced the nomination list and who won over time. This has been called out by Bigbang's G-Dragons diss rap in his 2014 "Good Boy" performance that MAMA feels like they have to give everyone an award to keep them all happy. So I always assumed nominations list were based on who gave MAMA the "ok" they were showing up lol. With that being said, as a fan of Bigbang, I always appreciated that no matter how much they were aware the ' BS and rigged awards, the group and it's members always showed to perform regardless, gave some of the greatest performances in history, and stayed at the award show to the end without ever leaving early. Which I felt was all for the VIPs who took their time to physically come out to watch the award show in person. Even in 2015, when CL and 2NE1 performed for the last time, CL and the group wasn't nominated or won anything, but she still came out to perform for all the Blackjacks and it was amazing.
To be honest, I've only watched MAMA for the 3rd gen only. There performances has a good feeling and showed emotion. They all supported each other, had fun moments and even jammed out. The 4th gen seems to be robotic and no emotion showed what so ever. I loved watching BTS, Twice, Exo and many more 3rd gen groups. Not going to lie but some of the 3rd gen nominations were actually true and not all fake.
The new generation of fans actually destroyed MAMA! Yes mama had so many issues to begin with. But mama adjusted so much for the new generation of fan that are always Have complain and make issues by interaction that the start of mama being boring.
honestly its all because of the stupid fans if they didn't cancel them or put them in dating rumors, they wouldn't be robotic but anyways they still do support each other
Anddd the fact they’ve been holding it in Japan these years.. we rarely get any idol reactions to eachother’s performances due to the strict filming policy there and this was a huge reason why award shows were loved as well.
I enjoy Seventeen's performance and I love how everyone enjoying and reacting ❤️ MAMA should have bring back 3rd gen idols. It's so good to see them otherwise mama sucks
@@mariematala7714being supportive is great but implying/acting as if 4th gen or 5th gen are “oh so bad” is ridiculous. Im a fan of kpop since 2nd gen, but i think every gen has their own gems. and no! there is no gen are more superior than others, performance wise!! they are just different cos they cater to different demographic. people keeps changing their taste, generation after generation. and it will always be like that and nothing is wrong with that. in the end it’s just entertainment!!
Mnet's MAMA Awards is just a popularity contest nowadays. If you get the most views & sales, you're 90% the winner. And if you aren't nominated despite doing well and having a good project, it's due to their bias towards certain groups.
@@deanxzayn1408 Yes, the Grammys have become just any other award basically, Billboards are the only mainstream award that is somewhat alright. They're doing the same thing as everyone else but they do give out half of the awards to people who actually deserve it too. but your point still stands
Idk what you're expecting bc all awards shows have criteria and if they don't give awards to songs/album which have huge sales and stream what will be the point for having music charts?? If you're looking for an awards show that does not care for charts and sales you should check out Korean Music Awards (KMA)
MAMA has always been a popularity award shows. The criteria of winning MAMA award is based on charts and sells from the the beginning of it. Hence, it's a popularity award shows from the beginning of it. And this kind of award shows have always been based on popularity. If y'all want artists to win based on their talent, then y'all should watch talent shows.
I used to watch MAMA from start to finish during 2nd and 3rd gen bc it was so entertaining,now i just skip half of it and watch only the performance clips and not even all of them.
Let’s be real here. There hasn’t been an exciting MAMA awards since 2ne1 did their last stage there. I would add KARA too, and it definitely was exciting and incredible, but the 2ne1 performance was when artists could still dance around and be active with one another. And hearing that crowd’s reactions when 2ne1 came out is insane.
JYPE's Group representative is only Niziu and just get there just to perform their Debut song😢 Good thing JYP didin't send their power houses group NMIXX, ITZY and STRAY KIDS.
I'm uncertain about my overall feelings towards award shows in general. It's not because of the groups' performances, as they all work hard and deliver great stages that I genuinely enjoy. Instead, my reservations stem from the planning of the event itself, with at least 1-2 groups consistently being treated unfairly. Not to mention, the terrible camerawork and editing that’s been going on for years, detracting from the overall experience.
Stray Kids had a way better time in 2023 AAA then attending this. They had a great time thanking everyone and having all of JYP nation there thanking each other was really great! Shows how close JYP artists are. They need more close interactions like in AAA.
MAMA's most legendary years were around 2009 and 2011 and 2013 were the legendary years of Mama especially 2011. Performance wise and group distribution wise. I really have nothing against Gen 4 or Gen 3 pf Kpop because they are all huge and they are doing amazingly well. But genuinely Gen 2 were really another level their performances and stage presences were really another level especially 2011
award shows were the highlights of kpop back then. and since 3rd gen it’s been going downhill. the peak of award shows was when bigbang, suju, 2ne1, snsd, t-ara etc were active. i dont even know mama happened until the day it happened. nowadays fans are happier if their fav group doesnt attend award shows and just focus on their own schedules. it’s tiring, rigged and not worth it
K-netizens lament how MAMA used to be international with Asian nominations and performances in the beginning and now it is reduced to just Korea and Kpop. Then they complain how everything is written in English and not Korean, some even said they stopped watching MAMA after it started taking place outside Korea. No wonder MAMA has become such commercialized Kpop/Korea centric. With such narrow racist mindset how can MAMA go international or Asian? K-netizens should shed their fake acceptance and set their minds straight on what they truly want.
Late to the conversation, but it’s truly ironic how international fans help the success of their ult groups which they love but as soon as there is some English involved or for the ceremony to be held oversees for those international fans to feel like they can watch as all, all of a sudden it should just be a Korean thing. What??
I was honestly really excited for MAMA awards but when they announced the artist line-up, I was disappointed to see Stray Kids not being there, hence I decided not to watch that award show at all. Like this year Stray Kids were so big but still MAMA couldn't manage to have them in the event.
@@urhypeboycheck Billboard! They’re #1 right now. How many K-pop groups have achieved that? #2 on UK charts which is even more rare… should I go on or do you want to continue living in your lies?
I also love seeing ATEEZ getting so much support and recognition now! My apologies for bringing any drama to your comment thread. I just can’t stand these lowlife cornballs that got nothing better to do with their life than hate on ATEEZ
Same! And with them reaching #1 on BB200, things are only going to get better for the kings & I can't wait to see what they do. I'm a very proud Atiny!
Honestly this has been happening since the start of 3rd gen, with the amount of issues MAMA has had! I remember 2017 was particularly awful, especially due to voting manipulation and the treatment of idols and fans. Since then I've boycotted it! Honestly hope this is a wake up call for the organisers.
EXO also boycotted since 2017 and complaint about what everyone is complaining now but have been accused of being sour. Today it seems they have finally been vindicated and about time!
I confuse did everyone espect every idol to win. Then whats the point of awards in the begining, off course they will be winner or loser here. And also mama bring so much money that i doubt it will dis continued anytime soon
The last mama I remember watching live was in 2020. Now it’s all 4th Gen and a lot of their music sounds the same to me with the exception of new jeans and txt.
As a K-POP stan since 2006, MAMA isn't even MAMA Now, because of the back lash in 2022, some agencies decided to sent only groups which fans requested for, nothing else. Because they don't want their groups to be ashamed, good job agencies. I will sure miss MAMA but MMA, Gayo daejun and Golden disk awards seems lot more better.
I remembered in 2017 till 2019 being extremely excited everytime the date of mama announced. Now, i don't even know the date until the txt telegram groupchat i have notified me there is a red carpet happen that evening. Yes, i watch the whole ceremony live online and can assured the talking is too long lol. I thought it's just me being less excited and thought that maybe its just me gettting matured as time goes by. But it seems like others feel the same too.
as a jypnation fan, i see this as a win win lol, jype made a right decision and didn't send their artists to mama 2023, even mama 2022 was somewhat nice but this time it definitely flopped
@@JaeMinJung. Yeah but they are a rookie group, rookie groups have to attend but the top ones like skz ,twice, itzy, nmixx, xdinary heroes didn't attend
Honestly, I stopped watching the awards after 3rd gen idols stopped attending. The last one I streamed was in 2018, and in 2019, I only watched for GOT7. But award shows, especially MAMA, have been going down watch-wise for a while now. It really occurred to me in 2014 SMH.
I've stopped watching MAMA since 2022 because 3rd gen groups like BTS, Twice, EXO, Red Velvet, Gfriend and even other groups like Iz*one made me watch MAMA since, but now they're no longer attending anymore, I've lost interest very quick, and on top of that, there aren't that much interaction between other idols from different groups or companies which makes it even worse
I started not to watch from 2019 up until now. It just happen that I'm seeing clip in twitter but its so boring. The iconic era is when Bigbang and 2ne1 happened. Its so fun back then.
Once award ceremonies stopped being inclusive of all companies, makes of annoying. I’m only glad Seventeen got all the awards and attention they deserved after 9 years.
I didnt know when mama was being held but i also wouldnt have watched it if i did nmixx and skz are two of my fave groups they didnt attend so i was like im not watching
i haven´t paid attention to award shows since 2018 but one thing i noticed in a few clips is also the stages and set designs, before they used to be super intricate and sized for groups to be dancing, now they are just this enormous flat spaces for screens and to have as many back up dancers as posible, this makes the performances in my opinion a lot less personal and every performance looking the same
No to be real with you I was so excited to see the stray kids performance cause their performance last year was really good but they weren't even in the line up. Also as a person who just started stanning k pop this year I honestly expected a lot from MAMA because people are always saying that this award shows is good so I am hella disappointed. From the line up and the categories that are literally the worst that they can even do.
Ditto. I wanted to watch for my first mama live experience & watched both nights. But was underwhelming. I'd watched previous shows & SKZ were standouts in their performances every year. The Venom/Maniac performance blew my mind. Were glad in the end they weren't there this year for how lacking it was. Not to mention the actual awards available were confusing.
They completely left out stray kids , even though they achieved so many peaks this year. They took 4 consecutive albums to top billboard 1, their songs were hits every time they released, their colab was great, and many more. They left out STRAY KIDS out of the line up, nominations, and awards . We STAYS , will never forget this !!!!
No they are not They always make their own song and take it to the top No offence to other groups , i like their kinda music . And it suits my taste that’s it. SIMPLE ;)@@dengamahn
@@dengamahn don't be jealous, you clearly know nothing about skz nor their music, I am not a Stray and even I know their music has nothing to do with what BTS does...they autoproduce their own songs and you can tell... Can't wait for Army haters to give other fandoms a break once your favs will all enlist.
this was my first ever mama award show as a kpop stan and i was VERY disappointed and i am the biggest moa so i was very very irritated when i was watching txt cause i couldnt even see them. The dance practice was even better. And the unfair treatment of girl groups i love le sserafim so much and the performance was so good but they didnt even get enough screentime omg.
I watch MAMA since 2014, amazing performances, intriging, you wako up early in your country to try to watch the updates in social media... .... these last 3 years I didn't even bother... This year didn't know it aired until this video....
Definitely skipped MAMA this year and probably will next year if it’s gonna continue to be like this. I remember 2008 MAMA and it’s such a vast difference in how the show is run, filmed, and organized. It just gets worse and worse every year.
TBH, I've only watched MAMA awards because of Twice, BTS, and Mamamoo. These groups always give their whole slayussy in their performances and I couldn't ask for more. Unfortunately, BTS is in the military, Twice are busy with their tour and everything, and I have no idea where Mamamoo is.
I'm laughing so bad at the "silent audience" comment. This is what happens when people talk about things they have no clue about. Did you forget it took place in Japan??? Japanese audience is always more subdued than elsewhere, because they enjoy music respectfully. Japanese concerts are always some of the best concerts.
@vixxexo6855 I do agree. While I personally want to enjoy performances in a relative peace, I know I'm in a minority. People are looking to be apart of the performance more than they want to witness it, and kpop does create perfect conditions for it. Fanchants were created to stop people screaming their heads off all the type. So that at least they would scream on certain parts only 😄 artists do enjoy enthusiastic audiences in their performances. But some people just have to scream the entire time in kpop concert movies as well, even if there is no artist to hear them 😄 It's that participation thing and being able to let go of all of their emoyions that a lot of people crave. Japanese audiences are absolutely the best. I do very much enjoy their concert etiquette.They are so atentive as well, the very INSTANT a band member on the stage in an arena lifts a finger, everyone goes silent AS ONE.
Let's be honest it not only MAMAs but also K-pop's fault in general. Nowadays the singers don't sing, the performers don't perform. Whom are we kidding? Tell me how many of the 4th gen groups actually sing live at least 90% of the time? How many times have they been caught lip syncing in how many stages? If the singers are afraid to sing live on stage then what's the point of being a singer?? Since they don't even sing live, they can't give 100% of their energy to their performances. Maximum of them don't even have stage presence!! Every award performances have just become about the stage design and concept rather than the performer and their performances. I still remember the idol crowd interactions that once used to happen in K-pop award shows. Nowadays, it's just idols coming to stage, dancing, doing some acrobatics, some random fans cheering, and bye. No interactions, nothing. Of course, the AWARD show has lost its importance now when the performers are this bland. Also, I was shocked to death when I heard jisoo's flower was given the best performance award or something. Like making the "talented dancers" of tiktok dancing to such a simple hook step is worth awarding now. Imagine a choreo and performance like flower winning "best performance" award, and ATEEZ & SKZ breaking their bones and throats to perform live are not even nominated.
The thing about 4th gen is that all the big ones are basicly dance crews who ing a little. The vocal training has become less over all and some people just debut because of visuals and dancing skills. It's mostly not the fault of the groups but more because of the lables. They saw that the big groups or the 3rd gen especially boy groups all have big dance performances and started focusing on that not seeing that their vocal capabilitys where getting worse and worse, but they didn't need it aperantly because they got fame from the start because of promotions, survivalshows and more oversees fans. It's a bummer but the majority of people don't need outstanding vocalists in the groups anymore for casual listening. People are looking for performances nowadays and not a sit down singing type of show even tho 2nd and 3rd gen stans like them a lot. I genuinely hope it comes back someay but I think that's maybe coming in 5th gen a bit more again (like kiss of life's debut) but I think it'll be half half and the companys are gonna decide what is better after seeing these results. The entertainment industry keeps changing so it doesn't get boring so I believe someday it'll come back if we ask for it enough haha
that last statement with the best performance, I couldnt agree more, cause it seems like Jisoo only got the award because of the dance being so popular on tiktok.
My last time watching mama was when Taeyeon performed I. Later on I only looked up clips of my faves if they were there. Otherwise I just forgot mama existed.
I feel like it went down after 2nd and 3rd generation performance-wise. The last best performance for me was by Big Bang when I enjoyed watching everyone at MAMA. I tuned in to watch Ateez who never lets me down
Some people have the mentality that if their group doesn't perform and doesn't get enough awards, the show is boring. Of course you have to talk badly about the whole performances, because without the beloved favs it can only get boring. 🙄 I really enjoyed some performances this year.
Agreed, I feel like the biggest problem a lot of people are missing nowadays are all the multistans. Not to say the award show is good, but the same can be said for all award shows, they suck. But before, it used to be fun because people genuinely wanted to support their favorite group performance and now people don't even know who to support anymore and want EVERY group to be there due to being multistans, then making assumptions. That's why the "participation awards" are bad like there's no competition or energy of wanting to support your fav, but that is the fault of multistans.
Mama in 2nd gen was absolutely something els but mama today isn’t that very good anymore so I don’t bother it mama’s now but it was nice to see some JPOP artists such as Jo1 INI and a legendary J rock star Yoshiki form x japan
The last great MAMA Award show was when Solar slid down the pole and Hwasa wore that red outfit the netizens was hating on and it's never been the same since!
It just gets more and more dissapointing each year. I agree with the GG things, there were so many girl groups releasing amazing stuff this year. I was looking forward to all their performances, especially as a neverland but again was disappointed. The camera did not highlight them properly and yeah, they were super short
The groups are afraid to interact with each other , most of them just go on stage doing their thing and go back except maby Treasure at least they are trying to hype up the crowd and other groups to lift the spirits
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I remember when MAMA was not just K-pop. Bring that back. MAMA was really doomed when they stopped having 3rd gen idols. There were some good stages, but still.
They still have 3rd gen idols tho...
I don’t want to watch boring throat performances.
@@jujoonline8248 Yeah only one of them...SEVENTEEN
@@JaeMinJung. yeah worth it tho. The first day was boring yeah but the second was nice
YESS. And now that there are so many groups that are global and are big/are gonna get big, XG, Katseye, etc this award show wouldve been great to promote at.
Like who is still supporting MAMA? They’re like so controversial and biased. Im sorry but MAMA is more of a „popularity“ contest.
Louderrr
"MAMA is more of a popularity contest" ....
I'm speechless 💀 Like ... please.
How do you think award show choose their winners ? It's purely based on numbers, streams, sales, etc... It's meant this way to be the fairest : results are the representation of what people in general liked the most. No subjectivity, no personnal involvement from some powerfull personnalities, no strange arrangement between super-investissors : just *numbers* you can easily check. It's actually the least biased way to do, since it reposes on facts everyone can verify.
We don't need the opinion of some "musical specialists" who places their taste above everyone else, in the name of some obscure "technical knowledges"
Numbers are the reflection of regular people's opinions, and if yours are not represented in the results, that's logical and not a problem, since you're not the average person on the planet, and your taste are not necesarly representative of million of others.
All Korean awards are like this. MMA is the same, they favor kakao artist.
@@mianmian3984this🤌
I'm not supporting MAMA. The dirtiest award show is MAMA.
I don't support a lot of things YGE does, but them chosing to not let their artists attend the mama awards anymore was a smart move. the mama awards have been a dumpster fire for the last 5 years or so
Then which company is treasure from lol
agree but 2020 MAMA was lit tho!
@@gweeglegoose6468rarely tho
Help treasure attended last year asw this year💀ig only bp and exo boycott it but that's bc mama is trash
Meanwhile treasure in the corner enjoying live mama show.
Asian music awards should include artists from ALL Asian countries.
literally!!
And not just East Asia too, Korea, Japan and China is not whole of Asia. They only wanna sound grand by using the term "Asia" 🤣
It used to...kinda. but back in early 1999 and 2000's
Chinese Japanese Korean and others. But there's was more award shows
Period!!
Exactly how is it an Asia award if u are only taking countries like Korea Japan china Max to max Phillipines like there are more famous artists across Asia
Literally 😭 I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT MAMA INSTEAD I WAS WATCHING MMA 😭
Wait both are different thing can you explain Mee 😢
@@aish_verma_94178 i guess MMa = melon music award
Mama = mnet Asia music award
SAME MMA IS SO MUCH BETTER
honestly MMA was better and more enjoyable this year then MAMA 😭
SAME 😭😭😭
I tuned in for Ateez and as always I loved their performance, I also voted for them on Worldwide Fans Choice because I didn't want them to go there and leave empty handed but if MAMA really ceases to exist I don't think anyone would really miss it anymore.
It's the same for me too.... ATEEZ ❤❤
Same❤❤
As a engene I find this very indeed true ateez deserve better but I feeel like they did enhypen and ateez dirty both of them deserve better
Yeah❤
In my opinion, the lack of interaction between idols is in large part the fault of the new wave of kpop fans. The insane possessiveness, the way they handle interactions with people who like different groups, their eagerness to annihilate any idol who makes a mistake...it's been so sad and so frustrating to watch.
I agree so much man, it's sad that they can't interact without fans going crazy
@@kenjii14Fr bro. Majority of them are just a bunch of kids or edgy teenagers
Yep! Toxic fans are the reason why idols can't interact.
And now, Pharita (baemon) literally just looked at Yeonjun (txt) and a lot of fans are already saying that she's a whore 💀 wtf is happening with the new fans?
@@ayanobadass949and lonely adults
I mean GD dissed Mama for a reason it wasn't a one off random thing Mama has been shit for a while now.
This! 👏🏻
this year was HUGE for straykids too. knowing that they weren’t attending MAMA 2023 really hit me in a bad spot because i know they would’ve went home with a lot of silverware from the show
They were shooting something in jeju island
Actually no, they wouldn’t have. Even from early predictions they weren’t going to win anything.
@@Nicole-wb1gq like, they rigged it THAT bad.
@@MamaKiwi143 I wouldn’t say it’s rigged, they’re just low in digitals in Korea compared to other groups. But kind of expected since we know they aren’t as popular domestically.
@@Nicole-wb1gq arent they the most popular 4 gen group. they won much last mama
MAMA should go back to become ASIAN awards not just KOREAN awards... There are a lot of great talents all over Asia that deserved to be recognized as well.
DOLLA - Malaysia
SB19 - Philippines
JKT48 - Indonesia
I enjoy Ateez's performance, how people and idols were enjoying the songs singing and dancing together was really cool and fun. And yes! They were robbed.
jyp did the right thing by not letting their artist go like they don't need those stupid awards
Yeah
@@BELIEVER78989 they didn't. Skz were on vacation during MAMA. Idk about NMIXX but I doubt they were there. From JYPE only Niziu attended MAMA this year.
@@askara9234 oh yeah I just remembered
Niziu are from JYP and they were there.
@askara9234 They had a schedule filming on Jeju Island. Wish it were a vacation, they certainly deserve it.
I also agree with the statement. MAMA should be disappeared immediately because what I saw in the Internet was found to be boring and I don’t like idols having no reactions or supports to their colleagues because in my opinion, this supports not only helps themselves better but also acknowledges each other!
I think the problem with reactions and support is due to the fans creating rumours; melon awards interactions were much better.
@@unniemoon95 I see. I also agree with the opinion that Ateez and Enhypen should not take part of the MAMA. As their fan, they are talented and they are not deserved to be treated with empty hands like this event.
@@huongvu1685 definitely that was one reason why I watched the 2nd day for Ateez; the lads are way to talented to be on MAMA and not get a single award!
@@unniemoon95 I see and I agree with you
Agree
This is why YG's BigBang called MAMA out. YG's artist stopped going to MAMA show. MAMA blacklisted BlackPink, Treasure, and that why Baby Monster don't not going to awards shows. This is what YG is being saying for years.
treasure went to mama 2022 and 2023 so did somi
Yes, in the pass two years only. There's a huge gap before that. @@Manchis123
Treasure was not blacklisted, only bigbang and blackpink, (bigbang due to speaking out and blackpink cuz they held concerts during mama so the popularity declined) Somi is a blacklable artist.
ntm SM boycotted MAMA even before that, after the EXO 2016 debacle. This award show has become a prop for Hybe to congratulate its own groups atp.
when 3 gen used to perform and attend it was magical
Completely agree❤️
MAMA performances don’t feel the same as anytime BIGBANG performed. It used to feel magical the way performances were done. I enjoyed ATEEZ’s cinematic typed performance this year, but I still don’t find the same spark I used to feel when watching MAMA.
real, 2015 is the last great MAMA.
Agree
Ssshh! Dont say BIGBANG here, kpop snowflakes are too sensitive for this group apparently
@@roserise_
Meh, BIGBANG is still the most iconic ones. MAMA’s peak
im just a kpop fan since 2 years and really enjoyed it. but its ok if youre from the older generation
I miss 3rd gen idols it was very different the feel and look. I remember back then 2nd and 3rd gen idols would perform together it was so cool 🔥
4th gen groups still perform together
@@fairysangs Their combo stages are boring
Completely agree, I miss 3rd gen
I only watched MAMA for (G)I-DLE and ATEEZ
I only watched Ateez performance. Mama robbed ateez by not putting them in several categories. Ridiculous.
Agreed
agree
Here in the Philippiness, we anticipate Asia Artist Awards (AAA) more than MAMA Awards. The lineup is much diverse; there are artist/idols from different entertainment, and different gens.
But those awards are cringe , they give awards to anyone, even grand prizes lol they are also known as attendance awards
@mev9752 the grand prizes are the only one that makes sense imo. The rest are very weird😭
TO BE HONEST- the last time I actually enjoyed MAMA was 2020, that was the last GREAT one to me.
Same, I last watched and enjoyed MAMA was in 2020
that was the first and last time i watched mama
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Ateez literally ate the performance
YEEEESSSSSSS. COVID made them invest a lot more thought into the show. This year was definitely disappointing.
I thought this started happening when companies would have their artists stop attending if they didn't win, which over the years influenced the nomination list and who won over time. This has been called out by Bigbang's G-Dragons diss rap in his 2014 "Good Boy" performance that MAMA feels like they have to give everyone an award to keep them all happy. So I always assumed nominations list were based on who gave MAMA the "ok" they were showing up lol. With that being said, as a fan of Bigbang, I always appreciated that no matter how much they were aware the ' BS and rigged awards, the group and it's members always showed to perform regardless, gave some of the greatest performances in history, and stayed at the award show to the end without ever leaving early. Which I felt was all for the VIPs who took their time to physically come out to watch the award show in person. Even in 2015, when CL and 2NE1 performed for the last time, CL and the group wasn't nominated or won anything, but she still came out to perform for all the Blackjacks and it was amazing.
Oh and don't forget Soyeon's diss rap too.
Yea
The OG YG groups... :(
To be honest, I've only watched MAMA for the 3rd gen only. There performances has a good feeling and showed emotion. They all supported each other, had fun moments and even jammed out. The 4th gen seems to be robotic and no emotion showed what so ever. I loved watching BTS, Twice, Exo and many more 3rd gen groups. Not going to lie but some of the 3rd gen nominations were actually true and not all fake.
The new generation of fans actually destroyed MAMA! Yes mama had so many issues to begin with. But mama adjusted so much for the new generation of fan that are always Have complain and make issues by interaction that the start of mama being boring.
i agree with you
@@yanzkie2781 it wasnt boring tho
then you havent seen some videos of mama. 4 gen idols were vibing hart, generell this award show season
honestly its all because of the stupid fans if they didn't cancel them or put them in dating rumors, they wouldn't be robotic but anyways they still do support each other
Anddd the fact they’ve been holding it in Japan these years.. we rarely get any idol reactions to eachother’s performances due to the strict filming policy there and this was a huge reason why award shows were loved as well.
I enjoy Seventeen's performance and I love how everyone enjoying and reacting ❤️ MAMA should have bring back 3rd gen idols. It's so good to see them otherwise mama sucks
ofc this comes from older people, who are 3 gen obsessed
@@manale9366 and what's the problem with being supportive of the 3 gen ?
@@mariematala7714being supportive is great but implying/acting as if 4th gen or 5th gen are “oh so bad” is ridiculous.
Im a fan of kpop since 2nd gen, but i think every gen has their own gems. and no! there is no gen are more superior than others, performance wise!! they are just different cos they cater to different demographic. people keeps changing their taste, generation after generation. and it will always be like that and nothing is wrong with that. in the end it’s just entertainment!!
@@dewimaheswari8509 oh wow someone wanting to write an essay today ! I will not read it I said what I said, thanks for your time tho
so gald no JYP artists attended this year,soo happy😩
NiziU was there
MAMA should have more Asian artists than Kpop artists. It should also be based more on talent than popularity
I have to agree cuz there's J-Pop, Mandopop, C-Pop, Thai-Pop as well
When Gd dissed mama ON MAMA, he had a valid reason. Mans had no fear and spoke nothing but the truth
omg how savage he is... dissing mama then still procceding to accept their awards... it's very pathetic actually
@@_anetty It was very savage!!
@@LovelyKissess um.. not for everyone as u can see
@@_anetty Not for you? That's fine
@@LovelyKissess pretty sure there's more people 😉
Mnet's MAMA Awards is just a popularity contest nowadays. If you get the most views & sales, you're 90% the winner. And if you aren't nominated despite doing well and having a good project, it's due to their bias towards certain groups.
Isn't that for every award show?!?!?
@@deanxzayn1408 Yes, the Grammys have become just any other award basically, Billboards are the only mainstream award that is somewhat alright. They're doing the same thing as everyone else but they do give out half of the awards to people who actually deserve it too. but your point still stands
Idk what you're expecting bc all awards shows have criteria and if they don't give awards to songs/album which have huge sales and stream what will be the point for having music charts?? If you're looking for an awards show that does not care for charts and sales you should check out Korean Music Awards (KMA)
That's why MAMA was basically the HYBE Awards this year lmao
MAMA has always been a popularity award shows. The criteria of winning MAMA award is based on charts and sells from the the beginning of it. Hence, it's a popularity award shows from the beginning of it. And this kind of award shows have always been based on popularity. If y'all want artists to win based on their talent, then y'all should watch talent shows.
MAMA just not the same like it was 2018 and 2019 this year just didn't feel right
It felttt emptyyyyyy
Yeppppppp 2019 was literally the last year when it actually good and p much fair
mama 2018 and 2019 reminds me of mamamoo's iconic performances
I used to watch MAMA from start to finish during 2nd and 3rd gen bc it was so entertaining,now i just skip half of it and watch only the performance clips and not even all of them.
😢 i Miss Generation 2and 3 Like Exo, shinee, big bang, mamamoo, 😢
Let’s be real here. There hasn’t been an exciting MAMA awards since 2ne1 did their last stage there.
I would add KARA too, and it definitely was exciting and incredible, but the 2ne1 performance was when artists could still dance around and be active with one another. And hearing that crowd’s reactions when 2ne1 came out is insane.
JYPE's Group representative is only Niziu and just get there just to perform their Debut song😢 Good thing JYP didin't send their power houses group NMIXX, ITZY and STRAY KIDS.
they used mama to give awards to their group zb1 lol they wanted to promote them while having other groups interact like enhypen and seventeen etc lol
I'm uncertain about my overall feelings towards award shows in general. It's not because of the groups' performances, as they all work hard and deliver great stages that I genuinely enjoy. Instead, my reservations stem from the planning of the event itself, with at least 1-2 groups consistently being treated unfairly. Not to mention, the terrible camerawork and editing that’s been going on for years, detracting from the overall experience.
I agree, like what’s the difference between “Favourite Dance Performance” and “Best Dance Performance”?
Stray Kids had a way better time in 2023 AAA then attending this. They had a great time thanking everyone and having all of JYP nation there thanking each other was really great! Shows how close JYP artists are. They need more close interactions like in AAA.
Didnt the AAA's have a bigger viewership this year than mama too 😭 idk if thats correct but i remember reading smt about it
MAMA's most legendary years were around 2009 and 2011 and 2013 were the legendary years of Mama especially 2011. Performance wise and group distribution wise. I really have nothing against Gen 4 or Gen 3 pf Kpop because they are all huge and they are doing amazingly well. But genuinely Gen 2 were really another level their performances and stage presences were really another level especially 2011
I would even dare to say- up to 2018
@@vell2994Nah it was still trash. 2011-2014 was the golden era of MAMA.
award shows were the highlights of kpop back then. and since 3rd gen it’s been going downhill. the peak of award shows was when bigbang, suju, 2ne1, snsd, t-ara etc were active. i dont even know mama happened until the day it happened. nowadays fans are happier if their fav group doesnt attend award shows and just focus on their own schedules. it’s tiring, rigged and not worth it
I cancelled MAMA since they deleted ITZY legendary video. I am not even a midzy. They were def robbed
Jype made good decision by not sending their artists for that rigged award show
NiziU was there
@@JaeMinJung. It's more like their debut like OP said in the video.
Right they were always robbed, really good decisions ever made by jyp, there top artist mean (itzy, twice, stray kids) don't need mama, mama need them
@@JaeMinJung. That's their jpop group so it was only for promo
K-netizens lament how MAMA used to be international with Asian nominations and performances in the beginning and now it is reduced to just Korea and Kpop. Then they complain how everything is written in English and not Korean, some even said they stopped watching MAMA after it started taking place outside Korea. No wonder MAMA has become such commercialized Kpop/Korea centric. With such narrow racist mindset how can MAMA go international or Asian? K-netizens should shed their fake acceptance and set their minds straight on what they truly want.
They think MAMA is being xenophobic, but really they're only upset that it's not being xenophobic in the way they want it to be lmao
@@spectral__ FACTS, literally these people need to reflect on themselves before complaining about the award show
lmao. Foreigners must first abandon their fake open mind.
Late to the conversation, but it’s truly ironic how international fans help the success of their ult groups which they love but as soon as there is some English involved or for the ceremony to be held oversees for those international fans to feel like they can watch as all, all of a sudden it should just be a Korean thing. What??
@@spectral__FACTS
I was honestly really excited for MAMA awards but when they announced the artist line-up, I was disappointed to see Stray Kids not being there, hence I decided not to watch that award show at all. Like this year Stray Kids were so big but still MAMA couldn't manage to have them in the event.
Same
Seeing ATEEZ being appreciated warms my heart 💜
Still a flop tho
@@urhypeboycheck Billboard! They’re #1 right now. How many K-pop groups have achieved that? #2 on UK charts which is even more rare… should I go on or do you want to continue living in your lies?
I also love seeing ATEEZ getting so much support and recognition now! My apologies for bringing any drama to your comment thread. I just can’t stand these lowlife cornballs that got nothing better to do with their life than hate on ATEEZ
Same! And with them reaching #1 on BB200, things are only going to get better for the kings & I can't wait to see what they do.
I'm a very proud Atiny!
@@thedreadpirateroberts Let the crackhead be a crackhead. Don't let these toxic/retarded anti's get to you.
Attention is exactly what they want.
somebody change the director of MAMA pls
thank you.
Honestly this has been happening since the start of 3rd gen, with the amount of issues MAMA has had! I remember 2017 was particularly awful, especially due to voting manipulation and the treatment of idols and fans. Since then I've boycotted it! Honestly hope this is a wake up call for the organisers.
EXO also boycotted since 2017 and complaint about what everyone is complaining now but have been accused of being sour. Today it seems they have finally been vindicated and about time!
True!
@@almeny100
Yeah, I also don't watch MAMA anymore after EXO didn't appear there. Honestly, I'm amazed that MAMA has survived this far.
I still have nightmares remembering that year. That was seriously the worst!! I hope this show really gets canceled. It is time.
after exo left i just stopped watching. im surprised they survived this long without them
mama highest rating was during bigbang peformance
OFC EXOls have been saying it for years, but ppl called us crazy, haha.
My skz didn't attend, i am so happy🥳.
I confuse did everyone espect every idol to win. Then whats the point of awards in the begining, off course they will be winner or loser here. And also mama bring so much money that i doubt it will dis continued anytime soon
it's not about winning there are groups that didn't even get a nomination as if they were not recognised likeateez and enhypen
The last mama I remember watching live was in 2020. Now it’s all 4th Gen and a lot of their music sounds the same to me with the exception of new jeans and txt.
As a K-POP stan since 2006, MAMA isn't even MAMA Now, because of the back lash in 2022, some agencies decided to sent only groups which fans requested for, nothing else. Because they don't want their groups to be ashamed, good job agencies. I will sure miss MAMA but MMA, Gayo daejun and Golden disk awards seems lot more better.
I remembered in 2017 till 2019 being extremely excited everytime the date of mama announced. Now, i don't even know the date until the txt telegram groupchat i have notified me there is a red carpet happen that evening. Yes, i watch the whole ceremony live online and can assured the talking is too long lol. I thought it's just me being less excited and thought that maybe its just me gettting matured as time goes by. But it seems like others feel the same too.
as a jypnation fan, i see this as a win win lol, jype made a right decision and didn't send their artists to mama 2023, even mama 2022 was somewhat nice but this time it definitely flopped
NiziU was there
@@JaeMinJung. Yeah but they are a rookie group, rookie groups have to attend but the top ones like skz ,twice, itzy, nmixx, xdinary heroes didn't attend
GD said it best. If you don't know what I'm talking about lookup gd mama dis rap. It's right on point as to what mama is.
Plus Big Bang isn’t performing anymore.
Big Bang used to carry MAMA.
Totally. There's no MAMA without Big Bang
Honestly, I stopped watching the awards after 3rd gen idols stopped attending. The last one I streamed was in 2018, and in 2019, I only watched for GOT7. But award shows, especially MAMA, have been going down watch-wise for a while now. It really occurred to me in 2014 SMH.
Didn't expect to see my faves, the OGs, Arashi in here! Thanks for acknowledging them. 😊
I've stopped watching MAMA since 2022 because 3rd gen groups like BTS, Twice, EXO, Red Velvet, Gfriend and even other groups like Iz*one made me watch MAMA since, but now they're no longer attending anymore, I've lost interest very quick, and on top of that, there aren't that much interaction between other idols from different groups or companies which makes it even worse
I started not to watch from 2019 up until now. It just happen that I'm seeing clip in twitter but its so boring. The iconic era is when Bigbang and 2ne1 happened. Its so fun back then.
Once award ceremonies stopped being inclusive of all companies, makes of annoying.
I’m only glad Seventeen got all the awards and attention they deserved after 9 years.
me too. I'm so glad Seventeen got all the major awards they all deserved it!
I didnt know when mama was being held but i also wouldnt have watched it if i did nmixx and skz are two of my fave groups they didnt attend so i was like im not watching
MAMA became just for kpop ,there was not even a category to award rock performance,I mean seriously
i haven´t paid attention to award shows since 2018 but one thing i noticed in a few clips is also the stages and set designs, before they used to be super intricate and sized for groups to be dancing, now they are just this enormous flat spaces for screens and to have as many back up dancers as posible, this makes the performances in my opinion a lot less personal and every performance looking the same
No to be real with you I was so excited to see the stray kids performance cause their performance last year was really good but they weren't even in the line up. Also as a person who just started stanning k pop this year I honestly expected a lot from MAMA because people are always saying that this award shows is good so I am hella disappointed. From the line up and the categories that are literally the worst that they can even do.
Ditto. I wanted to watch for my first mama live experience & watched both nights. But was underwhelming. I'd watched previous shows & SKZ were standouts in their performances every year. The Venom/Maniac performance blew my mind. Were glad in the end they weren't there this year for how lacking it was. Not to mention the actual awards available were confusing.
They completely left out stray kids , even though they achieved so many peaks this year.
They took 4 consecutive albums to top billboard 1, their songs were hits every time they released, their colab was great, and many more.
They left out STRAY KIDS out of the line up, nominations, and awards .
We STAYS , will never forget this !!!!
strayshit (bad bts copypaste
No they are not
They always make their own song and take it to the top
No offence to other groups , i like their kinda music . And it suits my taste that’s it. SIMPLE ;)@@dengamahn
@@dengamahn don't be jealous, you clearly know nothing about skz nor their music, I am not a Stray and even I know their music has nothing to do with what BTS does...they autoproduce their own songs and you can tell... Can't wait for Army haters to give other fandoms a break once your favs will all enlist.
Yup . Let’s all enjoy every group’s hardworked songs. 🙌🏻@@nad0862
@@dengamahnoooh you so jealous Skz ended whoever your favs are 😂
this was my first ever mama award show as a kpop stan and i was VERY disappointed and i am the biggest moa so i was very very irritated when i was watching txt cause i couldnt even see them. The dance practice was even better. And the unfair treatment of girl groups i love le sserafim so much and the performance was so good but they didnt even get enough screentime omg.
i feel the same way about this year. and i didnt even know it was happening until i got youtube notifs
I watch MAMA since 2014, amazing performances, intriging, you wako up early in your country to try to watch the updates in social media... .... these last 3 years I didn't even bother... This year didn't know it aired until this video....
Yeah, I just deleted their app from my phone. The winners seem based on who their company wanted to win.
Definitely skipped MAMA this year and probably will next year if it’s gonna continue to be like this. I remember 2008 MAMA and it’s such a vast difference in how the show is run, filmed, and organized. It just gets worse and worse every year.
stray kids wasn't there so i didn't care
Me too 😂
Only I cared about gidle haha
TBH, I've only watched MAMA awards because of Twice, BTS, and Mamamoo. These groups always give their whole slayussy in their performances and I couldn't ask for more. Unfortunately, BTS is in the military, Twice are busy with their tour and everything, and I have no idea where Mamamoo is.
I'm laughing so bad at the "silent audience" comment. This is what happens when people talk about things they have no clue about. Did you forget it took place in Japan??? Japanese audience is always more subdued than elsewhere, because they enjoy music respectfully. Japanese concerts are always some of the best concerts.
Silent audience is way better then screaming audience. Like you can actually hear the artists sing and nobody wants to hear fans scream.
@vixxexo6855 I do agree. While I personally want to enjoy performances in a relative peace, I know I'm in a minority. People are looking to be apart of the performance more than they want to witness it, and kpop does create perfect conditions for it. Fanchants were created to stop people screaming their heads off all the type. So that at least they would scream on certain parts only 😄 artists do enjoy enthusiastic audiences in their performances. But some people just have to scream the entire time in kpop concert movies as well, even if there is no artist to hear them 😄 It's that participation thing and being able to let go of all of their emoyions that a lot of people crave.
Japanese audiences are absolutely the best. I do very much enjoy their concert etiquette.They are so atentive as well, the very INSTANT a band member on the stage in an arena lifts a finger, everyone goes silent AS ONE.
They were very vocal during Ateez's perf and Svt's though.
Let's be honest it not only MAMAs but also K-pop's fault in general. Nowadays the singers don't sing, the performers don't perform. Whom are we kidding? Tell me how many of the 4th gen groups actually sing live at least 90% of the time? How many times have they been caught lip syncing in how many stages? If the singers are afraid to sing live on stage then what's the point of being a singer?? Since they don't even sing live, they can't give 100% of their energy to their performances. Maximum of them don't even have stage presence!! Every award performances have just become about the stage design and concept rather than the performer and their performances. I still remember the idol crowd interactions that once used to happen in K-pop award shows. Nowadays, it's just idols coming to stage, dancing, doing some acrobatics, some random fans cheering, and bye. No interactions, nothing. Of course, the AWARD show has lost its importance now when the performers are this bland.
Also, I was shocked to death when I heard jisoo's flower was given the best performance award or something. Like making the "talented dancers" of tiktok dancing to such a simple hook step is worth awarding now.
Imagine a choreo and performance like flower winning "best performance" award, and ATEEZ & SKZ breaking their bones and throats to perform live are not even nominated.
The thing about 4th gen is that all the big ones are basicly dance crews who ing a little. The vocal training has become less over all and some people just debut because of visuals and dancing skills. It's mostly not the fault of the groups but more because of the lables. They saw that the big groups or the 3rd gen especially boy groups all have big dance performances and started focusing on that not seeing that their vocal capabilitys where getting worse and worse, but they didn't need it aperantly because they got fame from the start because of promotions, survivalshows and more oversees fans. It's a bummer but the majority of people don't need outstanding vocalists in the groups anymore for casual listening. People are looking for performances nowadays and not a sit down singing type of show even tho 2nd and 3rd gen stans like them a lot.
I genuinely hope it comes back someay but I think that's maybe coming in 5th gen a bit more again (like kiss of life's debut) but I think it'll be half half and the companys are gonna decide what is better after seeing these results. The entertainment industry keeps changing so it doesn't get boring so I believe someday it'll come back if we ask for it enough haha
Treasure sings live. They do not lipsync. You can hear their clear voice as it is distinct from the background music.
4th gen jyp gorup sing live most of the time
so does treasure , ateez etc..
that last statement with the best performance, I couldnt agree more, cause it seems like Jisoo only got the award because of the dance being so popular on tiktok.
My last time watching mama was when Taeyeon performed I.
Later on I only looked up clips of my faves if they were there. Otherwise I just forgot mama existed.
I feel like it went down after 2nd and 3rd generation performance-wise. The last best performance for me was by Big Bang when I enjoyed watching everyone at MAMA. I tuned in to watch Ateez who never lets me down
They should name it popularity test
I really liked ATEEZ stage tho they are soo good i hope they get more recognition from award shows
mama is one of the big reasons for fandom wars. like it need to go away.
In the Philippines, seems like many KPop fans here were more excited in AAA this December than the last MAMA 2023
Tbh I only watched it for ENHYPEN but even then mama and mnet always had this beef with enha so if they don’t exist by 2024 I’d be happy tbh
They need to just call it a Kpop awards show. It would be cool to have a real inclusive ASIAN show.
i totally missed it O.o.. the day after the 2 days i saw it on tiktok.. and i was like damn didnt even know it was held that week x)
I love 3rd gen just waiting for bts having a comeback and performing in mama
Some people have the mentality that if their group doesn't perform and doesn't get enough awards, the show is boring. Of course you have to talk badly about the whole performances, because without the beloved favs it can only get boring. 🙄
I really enjoyed some performances this year.
So did I
agree
Agreed, I feel like the biggest problem a lot of people are missing nowadays are all the multistans. Not to say the award show is good, but the same can be said for all award shows, they suck. But before, it used to be fun because people genuinely wanted to support their favorite group performance and now people don't even know who to support anymore and want EVERY group to be there due to being multistans, then making assumptions. That's why the "participation awards" are bad like there's no competition or energy of wanting to support your fav, but that is the fault of multistans.
Mama in 2nd gen was absolutely something els but mama today isn’t that very good anymore so I don’t bother it mama’s now but it was nice to see some JPOP artists such as Jo1 INI and a legendary J rock star Yoshiki form x japan
the only MAMA era i know is SuJu, GG, 2ne1, BigBang.... Those were the days and the BEST!!
The last great MAMA Award show was when Solar slid down the pole and Hwasa wore that red outfit the netizens was hating on and it's never been the same since!
The last time I watched MAMA was 2020.... Now, it is all about popularity and rookies rather than the songs and performances
I remember Mamamoo' s performance....OMG, another level.....
Being a dive and bunny i am so unhappy with mama's decision of not including ive and newjeans😢
Yup in 2019 they gave bts best performance for boy with luv when ut should actually go to seventeen's hit😢I was so furious
I watched MAMA just for Ateez day 2 :)
It just gets more and more dissapointing each year. I agree with the GG things, there were so many girl groups releasing amazing stuff this year. I was looking forward to all their performances, especially as a neverland but again was disappointed. The camera did not highlight them properly and yeah, they were super short
MAMA's just overrated. There's a reason why artists don't bother with it. Nobody's looking to win a popularity contest.
Asian awards but bias in S.Korea artist only and 🤝 with the richest company artist
The groups are afraid to interact with each other , most of them just go on stage doing their thing and go back except maby Treasure at least they are trying to hype up the crowd and other groups to lift the spirits
fr! Like the only groups that actually hyped the crowd is svt, zb1, treasure, and atz
Last time I watched MAMA was when Gdragon dissed MAMA.. would totally watch Ateez performance though but not the whole show.
HONESTLY I STOPPED WATCH AWARDS SHOW AFTER 2ND & 3RD GENERATION STOP ATTENDING 😢. I MISS THAT ERA .
Me too. I miss 3rd gen alot