:The Anglican Office Book Konquers

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  • Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
  • Or, why it's best for traditional earthlings.
    Links:
    Anglican Office Book: store.standrew...
    St Bernard Breviary and Hymnal of the Heart: anglicanhousep...
    Lancelot Andrewes Press: andrewespress....
    Amazon Affiiate Links:
    Massey Shepherd (gettin' kinda rare): amzn.to/4bsVMcT
    1662 BCP International Version: amzn.to/3wMpIS6
    UA-cam video from Gas Street Birmingham, a mission of the Church of England:
    www.youtube.co...
    AOB tutorial videos: / @anglicanoffice

КОМЕНТАРІ • 33

  • @dalecaldwell
    @dalecaldwell  4 місяці тому +3

    As an example of the unity of the traditional propers, tonight's antiphon on Magnificat was 'The sick of palsy*therefoe took up the bed whereon he lay, glorifying God: and all the people, when they saw it, gave praise unto God, alleluia'. The Gospel for today's Mass was from Luke v, the story of the man 👨 with palsy whose friends made a hole in the roof where Jesus was teaching to let him down 'books with his couch into the midst before Jesus.'

  • @thingsoldandthingsnew1993
    @thingsoldandthingsnew1993 4 місяці тому +8

    Just purchased the Anglican Office Book on your recommendation. I’m Eastern Orthodox but I find the history of the Western Church fascinating, thank you for the trove of knowledge!

    • @dalecaldwell
      @dalecaldwell  4 місяці тому +2

      I don't think you will be disappointed. And, as I suggest in the video, the AOB can easily be seen as an elboration of the Lancelot Andrewes Western Rite Book of Common Prayer.

  • @markremillard7536
    @markremillard7536 4 місяці тому +1

    Hello my name is Mark I'm 73 years young and a priest for 24 years. I do appreciate your blog on St bernard Brv and the AOB. I like the aob lectionary because the Ps and readings complement ea other. I was trained to use the 1928 BCP. Your blob helped me to get back in track . Going back and forth in the prayer books was driving me crazy. I think the Jesus looks at that situation and laughs. Thank you for the inspiration. God Bless. Oh yes I live in Delaware the city of Seaford.

    • @dalecaldwell
      @dalecaldwell  4 місяці тому +2

      Alas. Although I was exposed to the '28 book, and of course quickly memorised many of its beautiful prayers, I was star-struck by Marion Hatchett who was my liturgy professor at Sewanee, who wrote the Book about the Prayer Book, after all, and who filled my head with all sorts of foolish double-soeak about how the new liturgies were enriching our worship--there was a whole series of books fom 815 when the ECUSA could still afford 815, called Enriching Our Worship--when actually it was impovershing it, IMHO.

  • @Brad-mc7ut
    @Brad-mc7ut 4 місяці тому +2

    I look forward to the sequel or pretty much any video you put up for that matter.

    • @dalecaldwell
      @dalecaldwell  4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you. If all goes well, the calendar video will be uploaded next Tuesday.

    • @Brad-mc7ut
      @Brad-mc7ut 4 місяці тому

      Glad you've focused on prayer books because honestly before you I hadn't even ever considered them. It's even made me inquire about Orthodox worship and I'm not even Orthodox.

  • @Steadfast-Lutheran
    @Steadfast-Lutheran 4 місяці тому +2

    There’s a new prayer book out called, “Sacred Hours: The Lutheran Daily Office,” with a borrowed lectionary and collects from the 2019 ACNA Prayer Book. It was just released this month. It could make for an interesting comparative review.

    • @dalecaldwell
      @dalecaldwell  4 місяці тому +2

      I saw that. It's rather pricy, but, we'll, I don't spend much on food and nothing on gasoline.

  • @BrianDuffy-kh9fe
    @BrianDuffy-kh9fe 4 місяці тому

    I have a vague memory that the Scottish Episcopalian BCP introduced a two or three year lectionary. They were concerned with providing a breviary for clergy & readings for ordinary folk. I think the Sunday lections were not disturbed. I’ll have to dig out the info from a box buried in the basement to be sure. Great topic & video BTW!

    • @dalecaldwell
      @dalecaldwell  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for your comment. I haven't paid any attention to what the Scottish Episcopalians have done since, I guess, 1790. But I was reading just last night Robert Taft's discussion of the vat ii dancing around a clerical office and/or a lay office.

  • @PadraigTomas
    @PadraigTomas 4 місяці тому +1

    In so far as all the Apostolic Churches have used one year lectionaries the natural question to ask is why?
    The suspicion would be that they had good reason for the practice.

    • @dalecaldwell
      @dalecaldwell  4 місяці тому +2

      The one- year cycle seems obvious. The question should be, why go to the confusion of a three year pertubation.

    • @dalecaldwell
      @dalecaldwell  4 місяці тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/3G9Tub2iurg/v-deo.htmlsi=gQijFDsx60ZelqPc

    • @arayne9080
      @arayne9080 4 місяці тому

      Origen says that in Alexandria they used a three year lectionary at his time, so Liturgical Movement folks thought they were also bringing back something ancient. They just didn’t always execute that very well.

    • @PadraigTomas
      @PadraigTomas 4 місяці тому

      ​@@dalecaldwellThank you for the link it was of interest in several ways.

    • @dalecaldwell
      @dalecaldwell  4 місяці тому

      Of course, what is missing in the great rush to remake the liturgy at vat ii was that the alexandrian lectionary was not adopted for use throughout the church. Neither was the 'Apostolic Tradition' of Hippolytus of Rome that became the 'ancient foundation' of the new Roman Missal and all its imitators. I am, by the way, responding to your comment on the feast of St. Vincent of Lerins.

  • @AmericanShia786
    @AmericanShia786 4 місяці тому +2

    Ask the risk of running the proverbial "joke" into the ground, I too prefer the original Klingon to the Vatican Ii.
    Or, might that be Original Romulan" instead? 🙂
    You video filled up a few gaps in my knowledge on these things. I appreciate that.
    I still want the Saint Bernard Breviary to be a success. However, my AOB, AB, and 1928 BCP with KJV and Apocrypha / Deuterocanonical is what I use to supplement my Heresy as I enter old age.
    The Saint Gregory Prayer Book is in that stack of books as well.

    • @dalecaldwell
      @dalecaldwell  4 місяці тому

      I just hope you're using the right book at First Contact.

  • @DrGero15
    @DrGero15 4 місяці тому +1

    Are the traditional office hymns available in a stand alone hymnal? I didn't know the Puritans hated singing that much.

    • @dalecaldwell
      @dalecaldwell  4 місяці тому

      Lancelot Andrewes Press the closest thing I know to the collection. Because YT is weird about links in comments, I will put the link in a separate comment.

    • @dalecaldwell
      @dalecaldwell  4 місяці тому

      andrewespress.com/john-mason-neale-the-hymnal-noted/

    • @DrGero15
      @DrGero15 4 місяці тому

      @@dalecaldwell Thanks! Are they Anglican? I'll be adding it to my list of books to get when I can.

    • @dalecaldwell
      @dalecaldwell  4 місяці тому +1

      @@DrGero15 LAP is Western Orthodox, but the Western Rite is a development of the Scottish/American Anglican prayer book.

    • @DrGero15
      @DrGero15 4 місяці тому

      @@dalecaldwell Isn't that the 1928?

  • @b.r.holmes6365
    @b.r.holmes6365 3 місяці тому

    As a Catholic, I apologize for Vatican ll ruining your angelic liturgy and practices.