Canonically the modern Donkey Kong is confirmed to be Cranky’s grandson with Jr. implied to be his father, with Cranky referring to the modern Donkey Kong as his son in DK64 being him going senile. As for what happened to Jr. considering that he was more of the focus during the NES era and even was one of the original racers in Mario kart (With an Adult design none the less) it’s possible that he just quietly retired and left the title of Donkey Kong to his own son leading into DKC.
Got smashed by a crusher, somehow still alive and kicking, even going to races again with someone who looks awfully like his father’s kidnapper, after his re-debut in Super Mario Kart… albeit rarely… and only recently…
He grew up and was the star of Donkey Kong Country and now hes in Smash and Mario Kart. Thats why in DKC, old Donkey Kong (cranky kong) is still sitting on top of the construction site, bemoaning his loss.
I'm more inclined to believe the Donkey Band music was unauthorised than simply having the license lost. If you're familiar with 70s and - to a lesser extent - 80s Nintendo games, you would know that Nintendo borrowed concepts all the time back then, sometimes even passing into copyright infringement territory. A majority of Nintendo's games prior to DK were blatant Galaxian clones, the black box lineup is chocked full of clones ranging from creative (Clu Clu Land and Devil World as Pac-Man) to unapologetic (Balloon Fight as Joust), and a lot of Nintendo's most enduring and senior characters have pretty clear pop culture inspirations (DK = King Kong, Duck Hunt Dog = Muttley). In the case of music, Punch-Out's title music is a Gillette jingle; Donkey Kong's intro is from Dragnet; and Zelda had to have its title screen made very quickly because they didn't realise the song they wanted was still under copyright. It's an interesting contrast to the protective and innovation-obsessed modern day Nintendo, not unlike how Walt Disney's first cartoon character, Julius, was just Felix the Cat with a white belly.
I’ve been here since your Best Sonic Comic video and I’ve stayed because you bring things like this to light that are both intresting and deserving of research put into them. Also this game might’ve been planned to be ported in the US as there was a new NES games to come report someone talked about in the video. It was seemed to be mistranslated bringing up Donkey Kong four so this could be Early Country or maybe even this. After all the prototype was far enough in Nintendo’s eyes to give screen shots to magazines.
5:20 Super Mario Bros was originally titled Mario's Adventure. Maybe that was the adventure game. Or maybe it was a port of the Atari 2600 game Adventure
I think anything from the early Famicom library is immensely interesting Even thinking about what a 1983 adventure game would've looked like is fascinating I assume a rudimentary arcade style game kinda like tower of duraga or maybe atari adventure or something But if you look into the memory constraints of the console and compare it to the contemporary consoles, it's shocking how much character Nintendo and HAL got out of those extremely limited carts Even seeing a unique sprite of Donkey Kong holding a bass blew my mind
Hey, someone that remembers The Tower of Druaga exists, I'm in love with that game (and the franchise in general), yeah I think the adventure game was most likely a extremely early prototype of The Legend of Zelda, either that or Adventure for the Atari 2600
Kinda surprising that Mr. Video being a simply reusable character for whenever didn't pan out. Because he got his own franchise, but not necessarily his own character depending on how you look at it.
DK Jr is a separate character, he's playable in Mario Tennis and was going to be playable in Mario Kart Double Dash before being replaced by Diddy. Nintendo just kinda forgot about him.
Sure, but Baby Mario was also playable in Mario Tennis (N64). So whatever time travel shenanigans brought him to the present day could've also brought DK's younger self.
@@GeekCritique I mean there’s also the fact that the adult Design of DK Jr. appears as a character in Mario Kart tour albeit as a 16 bit sprite version, maybe he’s way more stuck in the past than Cranky is.
Whoooo! Nintendo November. I really liked this video, and I also learned a lot from it. Thanks for going into depth on the topic and not just putting something out. Anyways great vid
I wonder if that legal kerfuffle with ITC was the reason why we never saw more Donkey Kong. In a nutshell: Ikegami Tsushinki Co., or ITC, were the main people who programmed the original Donkey Kong. They were never credited, though a signature from them was included in the code. Nintendo later got someone else to reverse-engineer the code and made Donkey Kong Junior off of it, and they were sued by ITC. I don't know anything more about this case though.
@@JSRphones I don’t think so. Donkey Kong no Eigo Asobi was developed by Nintendo themselves and they rereleased the first 2 games in 1988 with no trouble.
Technically DK Jr. is the DK from Donkey Kong Country if you are going based off the Super Mario Bros. Movie from last year where they became the same character. At least it made a million times more since than making Charlie Nash and Blanka the same.
In the flyer you showed, mario was called “little mario” , but he actually was called “mario” in donkeykong jr in june of 1982. Also he was first always called jumpman, the name mr video was nothing more then just an idea. Also the idea of an actual sequel to donkeykong with his return,on the famicom is already old news. I already knew this for years. Well that music game of donkeykong may be cancled but in donkeykong 64 you do see those kongs rocking on the music so that’s that🤣
...............no. Why........... would you think that? That's an Atari game. This is Nintendo. What....... in god's name are you talking about? What is even slightly the logical connection here??
Not really a lost game, but did you know there was a playable demo of Link's Awakening at the Comsumer Electronics Show in January of 1993? The only footage I know of has been put on the games Prerelease page on The Cutting Room Floor recently. I've been trying to find more footage, but I've had zero luck. Would anyone have any more info or even footage of this?
Canonically the modern Donkey Kong is confirmed to be Cranky’s grandson with Jr. implied to be his father, with Cranky referring to the modern Donkey Kong as his son in DK64 being him going senile.
As for what happened to Jr. considering that he was more of the focus during the NES era and even was one of the original racers in Mario kart (With an Adult design none the less) it’s possible that he just quietly retired and left the title of Donkey Kong to his own son leading into DKC.
Woah, these are incredibly obscure, hadn't heard of these two before. Thanks for covering this!
Junior was in one of the Mario Tennis games. After that we don't know what happened to him
He was assassinated.
He got flattened into an e-reader card...
Got smashed by a crusher, somehow still alive and kicking, even going to races again with someone who looks awfully like his father’s kidnapper, after his re-debut in Super Mario Kart… albeit rarely… and only recently…
He grew up and was the star of Donkey Kong Country and now hes in Smash and Mario Kart. Thats why in DKC, old Donkey Kong (cranky kong) is still sitting on top of the construction site, bemoaning his loss.
DK Jr is playable in Mario Kart Tour
DK is definitely playing a bass there. You can tell because it's a violin so big it's taller than a fully grown gorilla.
I'm more inclined to believe the Donkey Band music was unauthorised than simply having the license lost. If you're familiar with 70s and - to a lesser extent - 80s Nintendo games, you would know that Nintendo borrowed concepts all the time back then, sometimes even passing into copyright infringement territory. A majority of Nintendo's games prior to DK were blatant Galaxian clones, the black box lineup is chocked full of clones ranging from creative (Clu Clu Land and Devil World as Pac-Man) to unapologetic (Balloon Fight as Joust), and a lot of Nintendo's most enduring and senior characters have pretty clear pop culture inspirations (DK = King Kong, Duck Hunt Dog = Muttley). In the case of music, Punch-Out's title music is a Gillette jingle; Donkey Kong's intro is from Dragnet; and Zelda had to have its title screen made very quickly because they didn't realise the song they wanted was still under copyright. It's an interesting contrast to the protective and innovation-obsessed modern day Nintendo, not unlike how Walt Disney's first cartoon character, Julius, was just Felix the Cat with a white belly.
So Pauline has always been a singer!
I’ve been here since your Best Sonic Comic video and I’ve stayed because you bring things like this to light that are both intresting and deserving of research put into them. Also this game might’ve been planned to be ported in the US as there was a new NES games to come report someone talked about in the video. It was seemed to be mistranslated bringing up Donkey Kong four so this could be Early Country or maybe even this. After all the prototype was far enough in Nintendo’s eyes to give screen shots to magazines.
5:20 Super Mario Bros was originally titled Mario's Adventure. Maybe that was the adventure game. Or maybe it was a port of the Atari 2600 game Adventure
6:39-6:42 I like to imagine that Junior became Funky Kong.
I think anything from the early Famicom library is immensely interesting
Even thinking about what a 1983 adventure game would've looked like is fascinating
I assume a rudimentary arcade style game kinda like tower of duraga or maybe atari adventure or something
But if you look into the memory constraints of the console and compare it to the contemporary consoles, it's shocking how much character Nintendo and HAL got out of those extremely limited carts
Even seeing a unique sprite of Donkey Kong holding a bass blew my mind
Hey, someone that remembers The Tower of Druaga exists, I'm in love with that game (and the franchise in general), yeah I think the adventure game was most likely a extremely early prototype of The Legend of Zelda, either that or Adventure for the Atari 2600
1:55 theres an image in the mario paint manual of mario playing a keyboard that u should’ve used as the 4th image
other than that great video 👌
DK isn't playing guitar, that's an upright bass.
Kinda surprising that Mr. Video being a simply reusable character for whenever didn't pan out. Because he got his own franchise, but not necessarily his own character depending on how you look at it.
DK Jr is a separate character, he's playable in Mario Tennis and was going to be playable in Mario Kart Double Dash before being replaced by Diddy.
Nintendo just kinda forgot about him.
Sure, but Baby Mario was also playable in Mario Tennis (N64). So whatever time travel shenanigans brought him to the present day could've also brought DK's younger self.
@@GeekCritique I mean there’s also the fact that the adult Design of DK Jr. appears as a character in Mario Kart tour albeit as a 16 bit sprite version, maybe he’s way more stuck in the past than Cranky is.
Diddy
DK Jr was in the crowd in the background of the game though it would be cool if he was an adult in later games since the DK now is DK the third
After a couple of drinks, DK Jr. Math is the greatest party game of all time.
Whoooo! Nintendo November. I really liked this video, and I also learned a lot from it. Thanks for going into depth on the topic and not just putting something out. Anyways great vid
I wonder if that legal kerfuffle with ITC was the reason why we never saw more Donkey Kong.
In a nutshell: Ikegami Tsushinki Co., or ITC, were the main people who programmed the original Donkey Kong. They were never credited, though a signature from them was included in the code. Nintendo later got someone else to reverse-engineer the code and made Donkey Kong Junior off of it, and they were sued by ITC. I don't know anything more about this case though.
@@JSRphones I don’t think so. Donkey Kong no Eigo Asobi was developed by Nintendo themselves and they rereleased the first 2 games in 1988 with no trouble.
@@The1SunshineFeeler Never knew they rereleased the games at a later point. Then I suppose not.
Interesting
I love deep lore like this
PAULINE WAS DESTINED TO SING
Technically DK Jr. is the DK from Donkey Kong Country if you are going based off the Super Mario Bros. Movie from last year where they became the same character. At least it made a million times more since than making Charlie Nash and Blanka the same.
I thought it was cancelled
In the flyer you showed, mario was called “little mario” , but he actually was called “mario” in donkeykong jr in june of 1982.
Also he was first always called jumpman, the name mr video was nothing more then just an idea.
Also the idea of an actual sequel to donkeykong with his return,on the famicom is already old news.
I already knew this for years.
Well that music game of donkeykong may be cancled but in donkeykong 64 you do see those kongs rocking on the music so that’s that🤣
Could the "Adventure" game just be the Artai Adventure
...............no. Why........... would you think that? That's an Atari game. This is Nintendo. What....... in god's name are you talking about? What is even slightly the logical connection here??
@@the-NightStar well, at the same time, the video mentions HAL porting three Atari games to the NES as well
I doubt it. While Atari’s arcade games were popular and influential in Japan, their console stuff wasn’t.
and thats what the n64 game was based on seems obvious with the music parts
Not really a lost game, but did you know there was a playable demo of Link's Awakening at the Comsumer Electronics Show in January of 1993?
The only footage I know of has been put on the games Prerelease page on The Cutting Room Floor recently.
I've been trying to find more footage, but I've had zero luck. Would anyone have any more info or even footage of this?
donkey kong lore (makes no sense)
Was the Easter Egg the adventure game Portopia?
That would have done well here if they could have Americanized everyrhing.
Im still trying to figure out what the Easter egg is
@@KehHs-l8bIt's some lame sprite edit they did to DK...not worth your time.
Wasn't Mario named Rescue Man in the original Japanese release of the Donkey Kong arcade game?
@@PACNATIC I couldn’t find anything that said that :/
Where Donkey kong 2??? Why only have 1 and 3?
Donkey Kong Jr. is 2!
@@The1SunshineFeeler Shout outs to Donkey Kong 2 on Game & Watch
What easter egg
Mr. Video is a cool name but Jumpman is so much better.
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@@Bob-ombboy Congrats! You found it!
@@The1SunshineFeeler yes!!!
you would think the NES would have done a better job in their DK cartridge...the Atari 800 had a better game
Cranky Kong is NOT the original Donkey Kong - that info is erroneous, and has been proved to be so. Soz.
@@wondermo399 Provide evidence to back up your claim.
I thought you were gonna make two minute videos for these lol
@@sirprower None of them are longer than 10 minutes, but I have 2 more that are longer than 7 minutes :D