Bungie used a lot of the same stock sounds for a lot of their early games. The alpha flamethrower, and later the banshee, used the same sounds as the screaming cannon from Oni, a gun that shoots literal ghosts.
@@KnoxCarbon yo estuve analizando video juegos hace años y encontré que un vídeo juego de naves de estrategia utilizaba un sonido de Mario galaxy jaja xD No los denunciaron por ser demaciado random
Reading about the development of this game is an absolute trip. It's a miracle it even came out. Changed genre 3 times. Bungie hired a marketing firm to help them come up with the title. Campaign didn't exist 8 months before release, which is why there's glowing arrows in the interior spaces to tell the player where to go. Just the most creatively directionless, ramshackle ass development process I've heard of. Incredible that it turned out any good.
@@chaiyaa2times622 I haven't released the mod yet, and I don't know when I will. I certainly will release it, but I have other priorities that need to be taken care of at the moment. I have a large campaign mod upcoming, so you can look forward to releases from me in the future!
The side magazine gun cool has such a cool design to it, it’s really dope I’ve always like the fg42 it’s kinda similar but would love to see it return!!
at 20:33 when you picked up that gun that would later become the mauler in halo 3 I didn't actually expect it to be an actual pocket shotgun. Very interesting to see how the development of this game went.
Hi nasol3287! I can't say for 100% certainty, but I doubt they will unless they're being paid to create new animations for the old content, or they already exist but are unrefined. It's unlikely (but not impossible) considering they are just digging up the old stuff and giving it to us to create new things with. The good news is: I'm here to do it for a lot of these guns! I've already begun working on it: ua-cam.com/video/sDgqIF0CVEo/v-deo.html
Love how the rocket launcher didn't really change design much,except for the color. Shows they were already deadset on it,even before they decided what genre they wanted the game to be.
insane how you can trace some of these ideas (whether functionally or visually) all the way through to stuff that didn't make it in until Halo 3. the sword / machete from the difficulty logo is definitely a missed opportunity for a UNSC melee weapon, as goofy as it is it fits the aesthetic of the universe well
they should've kept the AR grenade launcher variant! maybe just gave it to one soldier or sgt. per squad. would've been really awesome to see in combat.
ngl I really like the auto-shotty's bullet spread. It feels moderately more realistic than the base game, and much more satisfying to use. The final SMG is fantastic, and I prefer it over the Halo 2 SMGs. A more accurate burst-fire mode is great. Release version of the magnum is the best version, as cool as the "space luger is". Though I'd love to see that pistol replace the one in ODST. early plasma pistol is kinda lame, and i prefer the release version; though the early needler is interesting. I like how fast the needles go, and it reminds me of the brute needler (AKA the Shredder) from SPV3. Though i LOVEEE that covenant shotgun. The early plasma rifle feels like a baddy. I miss that gun in Halo overall, and it's a shame what happened to it over the years. it used to have a strong ability to consistently stun targets from "burn damage", and then over time it just stopped being cool. third and fourth iteration plasma rifle is hot, i love it so much (i prefer the tracers and projectile speed/spread on the second iteration). I'd love to see that plasma rifle as an alternative. Make it be like the model that preceded the brute plasmas.
the first microwave rifle is actually amazing, and i kinda prefer it over the beam rifle we got in halo 2 and beyond. It's so satisfying. interesting to see where the first and second fulminite (fuel rod) cannon came from, and that the halo 2 and later iterations were based on the early versions. I can also see where the brute shot came from looking at that first fuel rod cannon. that gun at 28:19 feels like it comes from a completely different game. I don't hate it at all, but it doesn't feel halo to me. that rail gun that you have to charge up at 29:00 is a dope idea, but def an early iteration of something that could be more interesting. Also doesn't feel like it's congruent with the other Covenant weapons, but not a bad idea by any means. If i recall correctly the gun at 30:50, is a "gravity wrench", and was meant to basically act like a gravity gun and punts vehicles and physics objects. the machete is dope and i wish it would've come back at some point as a human melee weapon.
Probably many didn't come back cuz many of them had the same function but with a slight diference but damn those designs are awesome, when i played halo ce i always wanted more weapons, and those weapons really look like halo ce weapons, i mean they dont look older or huglier than the ones we got, final game still really good and i am not dissapointed with what they gaves us at the end wich is a beautifull fun game
can't get over the fact they had a perfectly fine looking and animated h2/3 fuel rod cannon in the game as well also the gold weapons, which I assume were early version of Forerunner stuff, resemble Tau technology
It's astonishing how much content that is used in later Halo's was originally made in Halo CE. For example: The Shadow and the Spectre. The unused weapons are a very intriguing as well! The gold weapons definitely could be early Forerunner tech. Thank you for your comment!
17:55 Seeing this for the first time was funny for me because I had an idea for a gun that was very similar. It’s cool to see the old guys at Bungie and I have similar lines of thinking. That thinking being the P08 and C93 aren’t used enough as bases for sci-fi guns.
Bro, this video needs more views. This is pretty much Halo history and the public hasn't seen the majority of weapons from the 1999 until now! This is like classified government documents finally being leaked!
I mean... Sure? I agree it should be shared, but this is all part of the Digsite project that's being helmed by modders and 343 devs trying to dig up all of the lost Halo content from Combat Evolved's alpha, to Halo 4's beta.
Dear blackagent4754, I'm sure more people will see this video as time goes on. And more will get to experience them now thanks to the Steam workshop. Your analogy is spot on. 😂 Thank you for your comment!
@@SomeKindaSpy wait halo 4 as well. it will be great to have the straight better early versions of the promethean weapons. that were not just reskinned unsc guns
Wow thats actually insane to think of, saw many of it years back and i was never expecting we could see a clean form of it, and now we could even play it
I agree. The stuff we got is a remake of the original in the current engine. It would be awesome to see the original weapon selector, but I have my doubts that it will come considering the way modern Halo is built in contrast to the old engine.
Shame it doesn’t go Guh-Dush Edit: auto correct changed it to ‘share’ instead of shame. Allegedly the RL was going to be named G4H-DuSH implying the SFX
@@stringbean5920 I could make a multiplayer experience out of this. I'll have to make it once I'm done creating first person models for the digsite weapons. Gonna be some time, but it ~will~ be chaotic. 😂
Where exactly do you go to access this test map with all the weapons and vehicles? I have played the map with the objectives in them but I have no clue on where to go to access this.
There's a download for it on the Steam workshop: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3003419983 However, in this video, I'm using a custom version of the map on a development build of Halo CE. I took the time to reorganize every single weapon placement for recording this video. I also removed the cut characters and vehicles that are present in the workshop version since I wanted to feature the weapons only. I hope this helps!
@@halomodder Thank you but I was able to figure this out a few hours before your message. This whole time I was playing Crash Site and I thought you would access the test map with the weapons and vehicles after you finished it. Regardless I would still thank you for the link.
I agree. They're very unique, and some are early Forerunner designs... It _is_ a shame we never got them in the official games, but that's what modders are for! :D I've restored a few of these weapons myself, but I'm not the only one doing it.
I just checked the game files and the game itself, and I can't find any SMG alt fire inside the snipers. They only have primary triggers, no secondary. Your comment caused me to realize I forgot to show off the cut sniper scopes though! I will make another video showing them off. Thank you for commenting. :)
Because the default cyborg biped that you're playing as does not have the animation references necessary to hold the weapons. That is why you see me playing as the 1999 Macworld Cyborg.
@@threebythestreet If you're using the Steam Workshop version, there is no way to change them. If you download the Halo editing kit, you have to change the references in the globals tag to use the 99 mac cyborg instead of the OG, or you can activate "cheat_bump_possession" and just walk into the other bipeds.
Hi commandplay, 343i asked a group of modders, called the Digsite Crew, to comb through an old hard drive that had _all_ of Halo CE's development files on it. They released a statement in July 2022 saying that they were doing this, and then a year later in July 2023 they finally released a good chunk of development files. Not everything, but a lot. There are still some maps I'd like to see released. I made a showcase immediately because I'm still working on Halo CE to this day. It certainly is the holy grail of Halo at the moment. Thank you for your comment, and hope you have a good day. Sources: (2022) www.halowaypoint.com/news/cutting-room-floor (2023) www.halowaypoint.com/news/digsite-deliveries
@@SharplyDressedPlagueDoctor I am making a _massive_ mod, and I will let you know for sure via videos. Subscribe to stay updated, and thank you for your comment!
I believe it's purely aesthetic. Just for detail, and doesn't serve any purpose. I even opened the model files for you to check if there was any attachments or anything that would suggest a purpose. I found nothing.
8:35 This weapon “prototype” reminds me of Ripley’s custom weapon that she employed against the Alien Queen and her eggs, from the 1986 sci-fi movie “Aliens”. This is the scene: ua-cam.com/video/Wk8puiuaM-Q/v-deo.html
Well...Halo was heavily inspired by Aliens in the first place,so it's not too much of a stretch to say the UNSC assault rifle was inspired by the pulse rifle. I mean,it even has the ammo counter.
I can't believe the banshee uses flamethrower audio
I like that a lot to be honest, the sound is iconic and makes the Banshee feel like it's alien technology.
Bungie used a lot of the same stock sounds for a lot of their early games. The alpha flamethrower, and later the banshee, used the same sounds as the screaming cannon from Oni, a gun that shoots literal ghosts.
@@KnoxCarbon yo estuve analizando video juegos hace años y encontré que un vídeo juego de naves de estrategia utilizaba un sonido de Mario galaxy jaja xD
No los denunciaron por ser demaciado random
And the flamethrower uses banshee audio
Reading about the development of this game is an absolute trip. It's a miracle it even came out. Changed genre 3 times. Bungie hired a marketing firm to help them come up with the title. Campaign didn't exist 8 months before release, which is why there's glowing arrows in the interior spaces to tell the player where to go. Just the most creatively directionless, ramshackle ass development process I've heard of. Incredible that it turned out any good.
That's why it was so good. It was literally a needle in a haystack. They went through every option they had before getting it right
Where'd you hear that campaign didn't exist until that late?
I love how the ring seems to glow, it’s breathtakingly beautiful.
It never looked as great as it did in halo 1. Such a special game
It's crazy how for years, we only had the old trailer/E3 footage to look at.
And now we finally are being able to enjoy it :D
It's truly a blessing. Think about how many Halo players never got to see this...
@@halomodder oof yeah you are right :(
Where can we play it ?
@@chaiyaa2times622 I haven't released the mod yet, and I don't know when I will. I certainly will release it, but I have other priorities that need to be taken care of at the moment. I have a large campaign mod upcoming, so you can look forward to releases from me in the future!
@@halomodderrest in peace to all our fallen Spartans
This version of halo looks like it would’ve been nuts
It kinda was! :D With some adjustments, most of this content is perfectly useable to me.
17:59 Luger p2552
I'm getting moviebob flashbacks
21:40 It's cool how this early version of the charged up plasma shot more closely resembles the one from the fusion pistol in Marathon.
The side magazine gun cool has such a cool design to it, it’s really dope I’ve always like the fg42 it’s kinda similar but would love to see it return!!
Agreed. I love the FG42. I will definitely be including this SMG in my mod!
The fact that the energy sword had animation for Spartans back in Halo CE’s early development.
Marathon's reminiscent vibes are so much more prominent there than in final game
The flamethrower sounds horrifying
Hell yeah it is
It's just the sound of the banshee in the campaign
at 20:33 when you picked up that gun that would later become the mauler in halo 3 I didn't actually expect it to be an actual pocket shotgun. Very interesting to see how the development of this game went.
Fun fact: the mauler is called the excavator in halo 3's game files, this particular weapon in halo 1998 is also called excavator
Here's hoping that, in the future, they'll add first-person animations for all of these weapons.
Hi nasol3287!
I can't say for 100% certainty, but I doubt they will unless they're being paid to create new animations for the old content, or they already exist but are unrefined.
It's unlikely (but not impossible) considering they are just digging up the old stuff and giving it to us to create new things with.
The good news is: I'm here to do it for a lot of these guns!
I've already begun working on it: ua-cam.com/video/sDgqIF0CVEo/v-deo.html
Video is only available in 360p at the moment. UA-cam hasn't finished processing. Thank you for watching and have a good day! :)
Love how the rocket launcher didn't really change design much,except for the color. Shows they were already deadset on it,even before they decided what genre they wanted the game to be.
insane how you can trace some of these ideas (whether functionally or visually) all the way through to stuff that didn't make it in until Halo 3. the sword / machete from the difficulty logo is definitely a missed opportunity for a UNSC melee weapon, as goofy as it is it fits the aesthetic of the universe well
Would be amazing to get an ex bungie employees commentary on all this
I would actually love that! 🙂 I've done so much to their game, and it'd be awesome to hear what they'd say about it. ❤
ngl i prefer this energy sword activation sound over the halo 2 one. it feels faster and more "vicious".
I agree, it is a great sound! I'll definitely be making use of it. :)
they should've kept the AR grenade launcher variant! maybe just gave it to one soldier or sgt. per squad. would've been really awesome to see in combat.
Yo Stew, that's a great idea. I'm gonna feature that somewhere in my mod. 👍🏼 Have a blessed day.
@@halomodder awesome dude, look forward to it!
24 years of history. Finally brought forth a to a new generation.
ngl I really like the auto-shotty's bullet spread. It feels moderately more realistic than the base game, and much more satisfying to use.
The final SMG is fantastic, and I prefer it over the Halo 2 SMGs. A more accurate burst-fire mode is great.
Release version of the magnum is the best version, as cool as the "space luger is". Though I'd love to see that pistol replace the one in ODST.
early plasma pistol is kinda lame, and i prefer the release version; though the early needler is interesting. I like how fast the needles go, and it reminds me of the brute needler (AKA the Shredder) from SPV3. Though i LOVEEE that covenant shotgun.
The early plasma rifle feels like a baddy. I miss that gun in Halo overall, and it's a shame what happened to it over the years. it used to have a strong ability to consistently stun targets from "burn damage", and then over time it just stopped being cool.
third and fourth iteration plasma rifle is hot, i love it so much (i prefer the tracers and projectile speed/spread on the second iteration). I'd love to see that plasma rifle as an alternative. Make it be like the model that preceded the brute plasmas.
the first microwave rifle is actually amazing, and i kinda prefer it over the beam rifle we got in halo 2 and beyond. It's so satisfying.
interesting to see where the first and second fulminite (fuel rod) cannon came from, and that the halo 2 and later iterations were based on the early versions. I can also see where the brute shot came from looking at that first fuel rod cannon.
that gun at 28:19 feels like it comes from a completely different game. I don't hate it at all, but it doesn't feel halo to me.
that rail gun that you have to charge up at 29:00 is a dope idea, but def an early iteration of something that could be more interesting. Also doesn't feel like it's congruent with the other Covenant weapons, but not a bad idea by any means.
If i recall correctly the gun at 30:50, is a "gravity wrench", and was meant to basically act like a gravity gun and punts vehicles and physics objects.
the machete is dope and i wish it would've come back at some point as a human melee weapon.
The Super Soaker grenade launcher at the beginning had my attention, but the rest of these weapons held it. Great compilation!
Dear machfivefalcon2405,
Thank you for your comment, and for watching! :)
Probably many didn't come back cuz many of them had the same function but with a slight diference but damn those designs are awesome, when i played halo ce i always wanted more weapons, and those weapons really look like halo ce weapons, i mean they dont look older or huglier than the ones we got, final game still really good and i am not dissapointed with what they gaves us at the end wich is a beautifull fun game
The 3rd person gameplay style they were going for reminds me of Resident Evil 4, with the moving crosshairs and such.
The handheld chain gun in this version is better looking than pretty much every other iteration of dismounted turret in the mainline games
24:16 Brute Plasma Rifle inspiration
I've always thought my older stepbrother lied to me when he said there was a grenade launcher on the AR
The smg is so damn cool jeez !!!! 🤯🤯
Agreed. 😏
can't get over the fact they had a perfectly fine looking and animated h2/3 fuel rod cannon in the game as well
also the gold weapons, which I assume were early version of Forerunner stuff, resemble Tau technology
It's astonishing how much content that is used in later Halo's was originally made in Halo CE.
For example: The Shadow and the Spectre.
The unused weapons are a very intriguing as well! The gold weapons definitely could be early Forerunner tech.
Thank you for your comment!
This kinda reminds of Gears Of War with the third person view
17:55
Seeing this for the first time was funny for me because I had an idea for a gun that was very similar. It’s cool to see the old guys at Bungie and I have similar lines of thinking. That thinking being the P08 and C93 aren’t used enough as bases for sci-fi guns.
Bro, this video needs more views. This is pretty much Halo history and the public hasn't seen the majority of weapons from the 1999 until now! This is like classified government documents finally being leaked!
I mean... Sure? I agree it should be shared, but this is all part of the Digsite project that's being helmed by modders and 343 devs trying to dig up all of the lost Halo content from Combat Evolved's alpha, to Halo 4's beta.
Dear blackagent4754,
I'm sure more people will see this video as time goes on. And more will get to experience them now thanks to the Steam workshop. Your analogy is spot on. 😂
Thank you for your comment!
Thats crazy!! So if they keep digging. does that mean we will get the cut Halo 3 Campaign levels too???
Yes, it's possible we will see cut Halo 3 content in the future. They're working on it now. :)
Source: www.halowaypoint.com/news/digsite-discoveries
They're working on pretty much every Halo game except 5 and beyond for cut content.
@@SomeKindaSpy wait halo 4 as well. it will be great to have the straight better early versions of the promethean weapons. that were not just reskinned unsc guns
Wow thats actually insane to think of, saw many of it years back and i was never expecting we could see a clean form of it, and now we could even play it
All weapons have an alternate firing mode.
Yes! Interesting observation.
Now all they need to do is maybe add the old HUD for the player that was set in 1999 and it's golden
I agree. The stuff we got is a remake of the original in the current engine. It would be awesome to see the original weapon selector, but I have my doubts that it will come considering the way modern Halo is built in contrast to the old engine.
@@halomodder could be interesting if it's ever working though, I can't lie
It's a shame most of these dont have a first person view.
Hi AG1k! That's where I come in. :D
I think the back of the box was referring to this version of the game.
BAH! It'll never amount to anything!
Huh? lol
I really hope that they add this stuff on xbox I've always wanted to get my hands on these cut guns
That would be a great addition to Xbox!
Shame it doesn’t go Guh-Dush
Edit: auto correct changed it to ‘share’ instead of shame. Allegedly the RL was going to be named G4H-DuSH implying the SFX
What?
Thank you for clarifying 😂 That's interesting!
So originally Halo was gonna be like a third person shooter, and it’s going to have grenade launchers and stuff?
Yes! The development versions of Halo CE were quite different from the final product. :D
Now you can use the difficulty blade.
OMG, I just understood what you meant by this. It took me a while... Underrated comment. 😂
Thank you, stringbean5920!
@@halomodder if there's a multiplayer, hope you'd make a video of it. With all these weapons.... It's gonna be chaos and trick shots.
@@stringbean5920 I could make a multiplayer experience out of this. I'll have to make it once I'm done creating first person models for the digsite weapons. Gonna be some time, but it ~will~ be chaotic. 😂
How’d you fix the camera? Mines so zoomed out 😅
I make custom camera tracks.
Where exactly do you go to access this test map with all the weapons and vehicles? I have played the map with the objectives in them but I have no clue on where to go to access this.
There's a download for it on the Steam workshop:
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3003419983
However, in this video, I'm using a custom version of the map on a development build of Halo CE.
I took the time to reorganize every single weapon placement for recording this video. I also removed the cut characters and vehicles that are present in the workshop version since I wanted to feature the weapons only.
I hope this helps!
@@halomodder Thank you but I was able to figure this out a few hours before your message. This whole time I was playing Crash Site and I thought you would access the test map with the weapons and vehicles after you finished it. Regardless I would still thank you for the link.
Oh man, overcharge plasma rifle would've been BROKE in multiplayer.
32:50.
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28:11 Early Sentinel Beam?
Its unfortunate most of these weapons never returned some look like they are from a total different alien faction
I agree. They're very unique, and some are early Forerunner designs...
It _is_ a shame we never got them in the official games, but that's what modders are for! :D
I've restored a few of these weapons myself, but I'm not the only one doing it.
I thought the single shot sniper had an smg alt fire
I just checked the game files and the game itself, and I can't find any SMG alt fire inside the snipers.
They only have primary triggers, no secondary.
Your comment caused me to realize I forgot to show off the cut sniper scopes though! I will make another video showing them off.
Thank you for commenting. :)
commenting so this gets more views awesome video
Thank you Gothicc_senpai! Your comments are much appreciated. :)
How come when I play this map I can't pick up half the weapons?
Because the default cyborg biped that you're playing as does not have the animation references necessary to hold the weapons. That is why you see me playing as the 1999 Macworld Cyborg.
@@halomodder How do you change out the cyborgs?
@@threebythestreet If you're using the Steam Workshop version, there is no way to change them.
If you download the Halo editing kit, you have to change the references in the globals tag to use the 99 mac cyborg instead of the OG, or you can activate "cheat_bump_possession" and just walk into the other bipeds.
@@halomodder It worked. Thank you!
@@threebythestreet I'm glad to hear it. You're welcome! :D
How the hell did they get the files for this. This is the holy grail of Halo
Hi commandplay,
343i asked a group of modders, called the Digsite Crew, to comb through an old hard drive that had _all_ of Halo CE's development files on it. They released a statement in July 2022 saying that they were doing this, and then a year later in July 2023 they finally released a good chunk of development files. Not everything, but a lot. There are still some maps I'd like to see released. I made a showcase immediately because I'm still working on Halo CE to this day. It certainly is the holy grail of Halo at the moment. Thank you for your comment, and hope you have a good day.
Sources:
(2022)
www.halowaypoint.com/news/cutting-room-floor
(2023)
www.halowaypoint.com/news/digsite-deliveries
@@halomodder hey just lets us know if and when u make a mod for steam halo ce with all these weapons
@@SharplyDressedPlagueDoctor I am making a _massive_ mod, and I will let you know for sure via videos. Subscribe to stay updated, and thank you for your comment!
Halo CE infection with these weapons
Ngl but all these weapons built like they came from splatoon😭😩
Did the shoulder have some sorta Multiple rocket launcher system
I believe it's purely aesthetic. Just for detail, and doesn't serve any purpose. I even opened the model files for you to check if there was any attachments or anything that would suggest a purpose. I found nothing.
rambo's explosive arrows on a crossbow?
Do you mean the harpoon gun? Maybe! Bungie said they took inspiration from the Alien movies, so it's possible they took inspiration from others too.
8:35 This weapon “prototype” reminds me of Ripley’s custom weapon that she employed against the Alien Queen and her eggs, from the 1986 sci-fi movie “Aliens”. This is the scene: ua-cam.com/video/Wk8puiuaM-Q/v-deo.html
Well...Halo was heavily inspired by Aliens in the first place,so it's not too much of a stretch to say the UNSC assault rifle was inspired by the pulse rifle. I mean,it even has the ammo counter.
Dead space
Is this a mod or the actual original files
Actual original files
@@halomodder omg
Hi how to get the 1999 version ?
So Autenticate
Wow I want an AR with a Nade launcher in Halo Infinite 😭
what mod is this i really want it
Why the fuck did they not keep the grenade launcher on the AR? But we get a lame ass flashlight instead.
how do you play in 3rd person camera?
I made a custom third person camera and then used the backspace key to change camera states. This is a debug function and will not work in MCC.
19:14 Unbound Plasma Pistol inspiration