We’re excited to introduce a third season of Darkroom! Our photography and history series has a whole new batch of photos to unpack for you - keep an eye out in the coming weeks for the real story of how the American bison almost became extinct, and a closer look at the most analyzed photo of all time: the famous “backyard photo” depicting John F Kennedy’s assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald. See you soon. -Coleman
Well its always the rich powerful who uses poor people to take advantage something like that especilly for ads well unless its for something good like food charities
It has always been the case throughout the history. The uninformed public being exploited not just by the rich but also by some existing political agenda - to forward its cause, mainly, not for the interest of people, but because they see the world as a realm which works with power and in some cases, even in the present day, they just regard power as the ultimate goal. It's always about the narrative of the oppressed and the oppressor, of the divide among communities and when we highlight that, when we deem that it's always about groups versus groups (rich vs poor, gov't vs people, etc) we neglect an important narrative, a piece, where individual responsibility and capability plays. Like in this video, a comparison of a local's life in Brazil in the 60's against an immigrant's life in the US in the same era. I think we should also consider, why such poverty exist in both countries and to what degree or magnitude before we conclude and come up with that comparison. Fast forward to 2020s, I guess the poorest of the poor in developed countries is still in a more 'livable condition' (let's say that for the lack of better term) when you compare it against 'the poorest of the poor' in developing countries, like in my country.
Btw, Favela da catacumba where the photos were taken no longer exists. It was burnt down, most probably on pourpouse, a few years later in 67. Its now a beautiful park with a very dark history
I visited that parka while ago vety beatiful yet a bad vibe once you think about the fact the some people were burnt aloe then buried under some of the trail
But still it presents too much of a liberal point of view for my taste. The problems of the world need a point of view which can go beyond the very moderate liberal views of an outlet like Vox.
@@EclecticoIconoclasta That’s a very fair point, however it must be recognized that they’re much more moderate than many other outlets out there, such as fox, on one end, or shows like John Oliver on the other. Instead it is deprived (for the most part) of initial opinion, and instead pulls views of people, positions and policies from the material discussed, and the solutions that seem the most viable. Let me know if you agree.
@@jackbrown3985 Ezra Klein and the other founders of Vox tend to be very supportive of the leadership and main line of the liberal and neo-imperialist US Democratic party. I can well remember a particular video where Klein dedicated himself to praising Obama. That is why there is hardly any questioning by Vox of the military industrial complex or of the neoliberal economic consensus that has been supported in the last decades by both US political parties who are mostly bought completely by corporations
@@knightmare1235 then compare the us to denmark, uk, germany, japan, australia, canada, france, italy, switzerland, etc. because the US is actually bottom of the pack when it comes to first world countries. You cant just say OH this is bad and proceed to say that at least your not in the CAF. people like you should go the EU, Japan, Australia, Canada, Switzerland, even Israel, because the US is not a nation without poverty. 13.7 percent of 330M is 24 million people. Also 3rd world is just countries on neither side of the cold war. Use an f'in dictionary you little 5yr old
Always have been...and sadly...probably always will be. The only thing equally as sad is when they claim it is done in the name of god and righteousness.
@@briobarb8525 "Always have been...and sadly...probably always will be." Not if Basic Human Decency is treated as more important than being wealthy. Of course, that would require the majority of people to realize that most of the powerful wealthy people are Sociopaths that need to be "addressed"...
Rich people pay poor people for their service.and those poor people have some opportunity’s to become rich just like the rich people you’re going after. And not all people are the same so if you go after all of the rich and powerful people it won’t much solve the problem.
This was an awesome response by the Brazilian magazine. They did something I always felt American media deserved: a taste of their own medicine! Just epic!
I'm Brazilian and have never heard of this story, thank you Vox team! Darkroom has been a great series, you're uncovering stories that haven't seen the light of day for a long time. Keep doing this great work!
!!! all the instagram pastel background slides and twitter threads trying to break down complex issues spanning over years to a 10-13 line explanation frustrates me so much-
it both angers and saddens me to see poor people exploited like this. i hope both families were compensated for their public humiliation, but i'm so sure they were not. i'm glad flavio received the treatment he needed, but healing one child is not the same as solving the overall problem.
As an Indian, I can relate with the Brazilian response. Every second article about India that I read in a mainstream American newspaper/magazine/news portal is basically telling its American readers: "See how bad things are in India and you are lucky being an American."
Yes I agree. Any country would be offended by such a depiction. Americans always try to find excuses to make themselves look grand and better than everyone else
flavio returned to Brazil after his asthma treatment and was soon eking out a living as a security guard. but in the end he was still poor in brazil. the last article of his i could find is a 1997 latimes article.
From what I was able to find online, he stayed 2 years in the US with an adoptive family for his treatment, but then they sent him back to Brazil to stay with his family. From the donations the magazine received his family was able to get a house but far from living a wealthy life still. Flavio went on to have multiple entry level jobs throughout his life. He still speaks good English which he learned during his time in Denver, and kept in touch with the photographer until he passed away.
As of 2019, he was still alive and turned 70. He was asked about that time in his life and said “It’s God’s choice. He made you the way you are. I am the way he wants me.”
@@HelgaCavoli ever heard of brazils social inequalities? It stumps that of the us by 3-4 times I believe. What this news shows me is that alot of people living in rio didn’t want to be confronted by the state of life only a few miles from them, that goes for new yorkers too
@@TVaz7777 wdym most of the coups in Latin America were orchestrated by the US, to protect their own economic intrest by using communism as a pretext to oust the current government
Agree with all that Darkroom is the best series on Vox. Excellent production, interesting and important topics. The series should be included as a part of mandatory media literacy studies in high school. Keep up the good work!
The magazine Cruzeiro belonged to the first media magnate in Brazil, Assis Chateaubriand (a Brazilian Kane) feared by politicians for his media and political influence. At the time of the dispute over the magazines, he supported the then president Jânio Quadros. There was an economic development policy in the country and part of that policy was the idea of exporting an image of Brazil as the country of the future.
Assis was also owned Rede Tupi, the first TV channel in Latin America established in 1950 and defunct in 1980 when company’s problem and military regime revoked Rede Tupi’s license
Trust me, the difference between countries for the poor is HUGE. Being homeless in the USA is NOT the same as being homeless in Brazil, or in Germany or any other country. Countries have different welfare policies and that plays a huge role into how “poor” people experience poverty. Unless you were a homeless person in Brazil to compare, please don’t say things you don’t understand.
A taste of your own medicine. Impactful! People relate more based on their economic conditions than their nationality. Poor everywhere have it worst than rich anywhere.
Eventhough both sides didn't do justice to the principles of Journalism...I can understand the O Cruzerio's Side...These western countries left Africa, South America, India and many more in its most vulnerable state of economy, still has influence on them and the "restlessness" in these countries turns into profit for them, but in turn, labelled them as THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES exposing their poverty...Hypocrisy at its best and I forever hate western countries for colonialism🤦
California also had many immigrants from Oklahoma during the 1930's. The same way these immigrants from Puerto Rico moved to NY. A long way of saying that Puerto Ricans *are* U.S. citizens.
Historically, this was a problem in Latin America and the Caribbean. Someone from outside, usually from the US or Europe would highlight one of our besetting problems, like poverty or corruption, and we would react. Not with introspection and attempts to improve, but with an anger born largely of embarrassment. So we engaged in "whataboutism" highlighting the failures of foreign socities, to show they were no better than us. We demanded that our best features be displayed to the world, not our worst, but made little effort to really work on improving things. Thankfully that has changed somewhat, but not everywhere.
I find that America and it's people love to talk about how bad other nations are and their issues but then refuse to talk about the same issues in their own nation.
I find it interesting that the comments are riddled with the same type arguments that the magazines used, finger pointing and "get-back". They both used poverty to political ends instead of highlighting the roots of it. It was theatre, from Rio to New York.
Brazil has a long history of paying back to the US. One might find this childish, but when the US introduced a new policy, taking photos from every traveler entering the country, I laughed my aas of, seeing in Sao Paulo three lines for emigration: Brazilian, Rest of the World, US. Just guess, in which line photos were taken ;-)
Wow, what a video. I am brazilian and i know a lot about the history of "O Cruzeiro", but I didnt knew this one. I must say that besids i do not agree with the channel opinion in some videos, i must that this is one of the best in the internet.
I studied Parks in my first year at Uni, and he's an incredible photographer and storyteller. I love his images, and especially in this context, I think it's important to remember that the words are not hs, but the editors, and that he also photographed the poor and needy in America, as well as other places. I do also want to say that Ballot's images are similarly moving, I think there is a place to show the struggles of people everywhere, and you don't have to do this all at the same time.
Its a shame & embarrassing that Brazil is infested with poverty high crime rate & corruption in spite of being an oil producing country (Petrobras) & so rich in natural resources They say Philippines is an underdeveloped poor corrupt country but Manila's slums pale in comparison to Rio's immense favelas
Americans in the comments "but Brazil is poorer", we're not saying we aren't. We are saying that you paint life in US as the greatest, when it's not, and most important, when it''s not for everyone. You're so proud to be a developed country, yet you're the most unequal one. A country that has the best universities and hospitals in the world, and people can't afford to use these services. I'm not denying the hunger, the mass imigration or any other of my country problems, I'm saying self criticism and awareness of your reality is nice sometimes.
This way western countries show India as a poor country. Of course poverty is a huge problem. But there are bright sides too but they will not highlight those.
Alliance for Progress failed to increase American influence in the region? No way. It was fundamental in helping finding solidifying in before they helped organize the 1960s and 1970s coups.
@@letuswrap flavio returned to Brazil after his asthma treatment and was soon eking out a living as a security guard. but in the end he was still poor in brazil. the last article of his i could find is a 1997 latimes article
Great video and story. Being from Latin America, from my perspective I feel like a little more could be said about how the media weaponizes the good will of american progressives and liberals to "help" countries in the second and third world via policies that end up hurting those countries. As it is I feel like the video equates a little too much both magazines, and I feel like O Cruzeiro approach was quite effective. Both conservatives and liberals in the US understand the second and third world as poverty-ridden and destitute while ignoring a lot of american people and towns that have the exact same problem (although from what I gathered this blindness to the problem has started to go away in the last few years). In Latin America is still very much an open discussion and in general we react in pretty much the same way as O Cruzeiro did, we find the attitude of american progressives a tad too paternalistic and patronizing when it comes to this subject. Again, I still think this was a great video. Love this series.
And the poor just kept getting poorer in the Americas... While the rich kept feeling good about themselves donating to a token foreign child, while denying poverty at home... No wonder the initiative (or any intiative not addressing poverty directly) failed.
It would've been interesting to get the perspective of these kids decades after the story - that is if they are still alive, since they're probably in their 80's now.
1 Corinthians 15:3-5👑 “For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve.”
Se os americanos não interferissem na política sul-americana do modo que fizeram, apoiando golpes e ditaduras, explorando economicamente e retirando recursos a América Latina teria encontrado por si seu caminho para a prosperidade. Como dizem aqui, "muito ajuda quem não atrapalha."
Both these photo essays are examples of white saviourism and colonialism. They show how the cold war was an excuse for white powers (in Brasil and US in this example) to continue to colonize the world in a post-WW2 context. Photographers captured images of marginalized populations from their own point of view instead of adapting their cameras to capture their subjects own point of view. These photos are the polar-opposite of the photos taken by Lewis Hine of child-labourers in the US, where Lewis adapts his photography to depict what the child feels. Instead, these photo essays from white saviour magazines depict how the US and Brasil middle-class white population feel about children they don't even know.
We’re excited to introduce a third season of Darkroom! Our photography and history series has a whole new batch of photos to unpack for you - keep an eye out in the coming weeks for the real story of how the American bison almost became extinct, and a closer look at the most analyzed photo of all time: the famous “backyard photo” depicting John F Kennedy’s assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald. See you soon. -Coleman
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Can't tell you how excited I am for this series.
I’m hooked! Keep it coming!
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Always powerful people use the poor to their advantage, all over the world.
Well its always the rich powerful who uses poor people to take advantage something like that especilly for ads well unless its for something good like food charities
I guess that's how the WORLD works n Earth has created us like that
"U can see we humans use animals
I’m mad at both magazines
It has always been the case throughout the history. The uninformed public being exploited not just by the rich but also by some existing political agenda - to forward its cause, mainly, not for the interest of people, but because they see the world as a realm which works with power and in some cases, even in the present day, they just regard power as the ultimate goal. It's always about the narrative of the oppressed and the oppressor, of the divide among communities and when we highlight that, when we deem that it's always about groups versus groups (rich vs poor, gov't vs people, etc) we neglect an important narrative, a piece, where individual responsibility and capability plays. Like in this video, a comparison of a local's life in Brazil in the 60's against an immigrant's life in the US in the same era. I think we should also consider, why such poverty exist in both countries and to what degree or magnitude before we conclude and come up with that comparison. Fast forward to 2020s, I guess the poorest of the poor in developed countries is still in a more 'livable condition' (let's say that for the lack of better term) when you compare it against 'the poorest of the poor' in developing countries, like in my country.
Just to ensure to produce more poverty to exploit later.
This is excellent. A clinical, intelligent look at the media and what lies behind the news is just what we need right now. 👍👍👍👍👍
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So in that context what about china. America is doing same thing to china now. Even UN says there is no evidence of genocide going on in Xianxing.
Facts 💯💯💯
@@monbjra ??
Btw, Favela da catacumba where the photos were taken no longer exists. It was burnt down, most probably on pourpouse, a few years later in 67. Its now a beautiful park with a very dark history
also, it was during the brazilian dictatorship, which was financed and supported by the US.
@@Trilo-Kh2D Ironic considering the powerful in the us were using it as a example of misery.
I visited that parka while ago vety beatiful yet a bad vibe once you think about the fact the some people were burnt aloe then buried under some of the trail
What is it called now?
@@damongraham1398 Parque da Catacumba. Next to it, high-end residential buildings.
To the Vox team: You never cease to spread light on interesting, important and captivating topics, thank you.
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Yeah vox. Thank you so much.
But still it presents too much of a liberal point of view for my taste. The problems of the world need a point of view which can go beyond the very moderate liberal views of an outlet like Vox.
@@EclecticoIconoclasta That’s a very fair point, however it must be recognized that they’re much more moderate than many other outlets out there, such as fox, on one end, or shows like John Oliver on the other. Instead it is deprived (for the most part) of initial opinion, and instead pulls views of people, positions and policies from the material discussed, and the solutions that seem the most viable. Let me know if you agree.
@@jackbrown3985 Ezra Klein and the other founders of Vox tend to be very supportive of the leadership and main line of the liberal and neo-imperialist US Democratic party. I can well remember a particular video where Klein dedicated himself to praising Obama. That is why there is hardly any questioning by Vox of the military industrial complex or of the neoliberal economic consensus that has been supported in the last decades by both US political parties who are mostly bought completely by corporations
US: shows poverty in Brazil.
Brazil: shows poverty in US.
US: No. This isn't how you supposed to play the game.
US Poverty Rate: 13.7% (2021)
People living in inadequate housing in Brazil: 23%
People in the comments unable to get a lesson about the real causes of poverty in both countries and just replicating a 60 years old discussion: 95%
@@knightmare1235 your point is?
@@jumbomuffin1316 You cannot compare the poverty in 1st world nations to 3rd world nations
@@knightmare1235 then compare the us to denmark, uk, germany, japan, australia, canada, france, italy, switzerland, etc. because the US is actually bottom of the pack when it comes to first world countries. You cant just say OH this is bad and proceed to say that at least your not in the CAF. people like you should go the EU, Japan, Australia, Canada, Switzerland, even Israel, because the US is not a nation without poverty. 13.7 percent of 330M is 24 million people. Also 3rd world is just countries on neither side of the cold war. Use an f'in dictionary you little 5yr old
Poor people are mere pawns at the hands of the rich and powerful.
Always have been...and sadly...probably always will be. The only thing equally as sad is when they claim it is done in the name of god and righteousness.
@@briobarb8525 always have been , gun Shot
@@briobarb8525 "Always have been...and sadly...probably always will be."
Not if Basic Human Decency is treated as more important than being wealthy. Of course, that would require the majority of people to realize that most of the powerful wealthy people are Sociopaths that need to be "addressed"...
@@davidhollenshead4892 Very True!
Rich people pay poor people for their service.and those poor people have some opportunity’s to become rich just like the rich people you’re going after. And not all people are the same so if you go after all of the rich and powerful people it won’t much solve the problem.
This was an awesome response by the Brazilian magazine. They did something I always felt American media deserved: a taste of their own medicine! Just epic!
Yes, this should be the norm.
Brazil had like 20x as many Poor people though
True
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson But the people there weren't poor simply because of the color of their skin
@@Crystal14351 nobody argued they were poor simply because of their skin color
I'm Brazilian and have never heard of this story, thank you Vox team!
Darkroom has been a great series, you're uncovering stories that haven't seen the light of day for a long time. Keep doing this great work!
Social Media is doing this in a massive scale today yet we are unaware of it. Maybe Vox should do a video of such incidents in present day.
!!! all the instagram pastel background slides and twitter threads trying to break down complex issues spanning over years to a 10-13 line explanation frustrates me so much-
Palestinian isreal conflict
@@michelmilaneh8963 Or Israeli genocide on Palestinians
@❤️𝕄ℂ𝕌❤️ because the UN is controlled by rich countries, which all support israel
@@লেফাফাদুরস্ত if isreals plan is genocide then they're doing a terrible job
it is a bit weird that you didn't mention the wave of american sponsored dictatorships in latin america at the time
That... Uh... Didn't happen
~The US Government
right, cricual part of that story beyond just magazines
Yeah, including in Brazil itself, along with Argentina, Chile, and many others
I feel like that would be too long and off course for this photography-centric series...maybe a story for another video or history series, perhaps.
As long as it benefits the US what do you expect
Life: Look how poor Brazil is
O Cruzeiro: *Reverse uno card*
*Cruzeiro. Not Cruizero.
Didn’t work
Usa: lets show to the world how miserable life is in Brazil.
Brazil: lets show to the world how miserable life is in Usa.
Usa: surprized Pickachu face
i literally read this as "Usa" like a name instead of "U.S.A." like an acronym lol .... I was like, "Who is Usa?"
@@Whatsayoutuber to me it probably looked like KuroUsa; a Japanese music artist (try searching it if you want to find out)
@@Whatsayoutuber who cares
@@aryansyahputra8278 them
Aw yes, Brazil, a country with favelas that are nasty and ridden with gangs, is going to make the US look bad
It should be taught in schools that media on any form should be looked at with critical thinking on another level.
It is thought as school atleast in my school
It already is...
My school did it
@@l.o.v.edrive3466 good school....
They really pulled a “This you?” 60 years ago
Yes darkroom this is definitely the best series
But borders was wayyyyyyyy better
@@SharibShams ya shame they cant do it for another year or so
@@jackohalloran1573 it got cancelled
@@somedude0921 by Twitter or by who?
@@Campeon99 the dude that was making it left or smth
it both angers and saddens me to see poor people exploited like this.
i hope both families were compensated for their public humiliation, but i'm so sure they were not.
i'm glad flavio received the treatment he needed, but healing one child is not the same as solving the overall problem.
As an Indian, I can relate with the Brazilian response. Every second article about India that I read in a mainstream American newspaper/magazine/news portal is basically telling its American readers: "See how bad things are in India and you are lucky being an American."
That actually is true!!!
Agreed you are lucky to be in America, but if you’re black, LBGT, Hispanic/Latin, or Poor. Good luck.
Yes I agree. Any country would be offended by such a depiction. Americans always try to find excuses to make themselves look grand and better than everyone else
ikr like American magazines always take bad photos of the middle east and say : "tHeY aRe oPrEsSeD lEtS fReE tHeM
@@ChernobylPone Also Indigenous
Wonder how Favio and his family are doing now. He's probably in his early 70s.
from the photos it seems they've brought him alone, without the rest of his family
flavio returned to Brazil after his asthma treatment and was soon eking out a living as a security guard. but in the end he was still poor in brazil. the last article of his i could find is a 1997 latimes article.
From what I was able to find online, he stayed 2 years in the US with an adoptive family for his treatment, but then they sent him back to Brazil to stay with his family. From the donations the magazine received his family was able to get a house but far from living a wealthy life still. Flavio went on to have multiple entry level jobs throughout his life. He still speaks good English which he learned during his time in Denver, and kept in touch with the photographer until he passed away.
As of 2019, he was still alive and turned 70. He was asked about that time in his life and said “It’s God’s choice. He made you the way you are. I am the way he wants me.”
@@amandadeoliveira2353 Until Flavio passed or until the photographer passed?
I’m amused the Brazilians hit back. Lol 😂
As everyone should. Then maybe the USA would get a grip every once a while.
@@HelgaCavoli ever heard of brazils social inequalities? It stumps that of the us by 3-4 times I believe. What this news shows me is that alot of people living in rio didn’t want to be confronted by the state of life only a few miles from them, that goes for new yorkers too
No one could have ever thought that a video on these magazines can so terrifying
can u do a video about American backed coups in Latin American countries as well as the role of American companies
Isn't that where the term 'Banana Republic' came from?
@@ghivifahmi4252 yup it is , i wanna more in-depth video from vox plus other info about others countries in Latin America not just nigaragwa
Coup dEtat was a common thing in the 20th. Europe had much more coups than LA back then.
You guys love to blame Americans for anything. Jesus!
@@TVaz7777 but corpo-sponsored coups is a uniquely US thing during early to mid 20th century
@@TVaz7777 wdym most of the coups in Latin America were orchestrated by the US, to protect their own economic intrest by using communism as a pretext to oust the current government
This is the best topic in vox, vox darkroom is the best
Do one about the Condor Operation in Latin America.
US imperialism is awful😔
And all the other brutal regimes backed by the US in Latin America
This show is about photos not "US bad grrr"
@@1nsaniel True. But VOX channel is about many things, including "US bad," grrr
Is there photos about it? Maybe they can do something if there is.
Fun fact :
This is still the case today, especially in the hollywood movies.
The "Maybe it is the case of sending him to Brazil" is peak brazilian sarcasm, we do tent to truce with some humor embedded. Great episode!
The US: produce a story on Brazil's poverty
Brazil: travel to the US to do the same thing
The US: *suprised pikachu face
Agree with all that Darkroom is the best series on Vox. Excellent production, interesting and important topics. The series should be included as a part of mandatory media literacy studies in high school. Keep up the good work!
this is why you are about to get to 10 Million subscribers, cheers from Bolivia.
USA: Brazil is so poor and helpless, unlike the pinnacle of progress that it is the USA
Brasil: Ah é?
Hold my cachaça.
US: Hold my 13.7% poverty rate
@@knightmare1235 hold my 25 million people inn poverty
Beside the always-well-chosen topics, I gotta say that the editing and backgroud music are always topnotch. Great work!
Usa: were taking you out from Brazil
Brazil: No, we bring Brazil to you
YOU. ARE. COMING. TO. BRAZIL.
As a Black man in the early 1960s, Gordon Parks had a really great job. How awesome was that! 😃
The magazine Cruzeiro belonged to the first media magnate in Brazil, Assis Chateaubriand (a Brazilian Kane) feared by politicians for his media and political influence. At the time of the dispute over the magazines, he supported the then president Jânio Quadros. There was an economic development policy in the country and part of that policy was the idea of exporting an image of Brazil as the country of the future.
As any good media should promote. To attract investments and good trade deals.
Assis was also owned Rede Tupi, the first TV channel in Latin America established in 1950 and defunct in 1980 when company’s problem and military regime revoked Rede Tupi’s license
The difference between countries for the poor is very little.
As a homeless man it doesn't feel like I live in America.
A homeless man in America can apparently access the internet and watch UA-cam. Not sure about a homeless man in other countries.
@@jonirojonironin5353 libraries are a thing in many countries
@@jeffersonclippership2588 Libraries aren't a thing in many countries as well.
@@jonirojonironin5353 yeah, not every where
Trust me, the difference between countries for the poor is HUGE. Being homeless in the USA is NOT the same as being homeless in Brazil, or in Germany or any other country. Countries have different welfare policies and that plays a huge role into how “poor” people experience poverty. Unless you were a homeless person in Brazil to compare, please don’t say things you don’t understand.
If history lecture would be this interesting , I would never have missed a lecture in my lifetime.kudos to the efforts of vox team
A taste of your own medicine. Impactful!
People relate more based on their economic conditions than their nationality.
Poor everywhere have it worst than rich anywhere.
Brazil just did a right back at cha' on lifes magazine
I'll take it you're also Brazilian, since you wrote it with 's' instead of 'z'.
@@-nyx-8850 oh shoot i mispelled it, sorry about the confusion lol
The USA still has levels of poverty that left me shocked when I visited a few years ago
Side note: you can tell how there is a difference between their photography style, and it feels different from one another. And that’s cool
Eventhough both sides didn't do justice to the principles of Journalism...I can understand the O Cruzerio's Side...These western countries left Africa, South America, India and many more in its most vulnerable state of economy, still has influence on them and the "restlessness" in these countries turns into profit for them, but in turn, labelled them as THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES exposing their poverty...Hypocrisy at its best and I forever hate western countries for colonialism🤦
California also had many immigrants from Oklahoma during the 1930's. The same way these immigrants from Puerto Rico moved to NY. A long way of saying that Puerto Ricans *are* U.S. citizens.
My respect for Brazil goes stonks 📈📈📈
My respect for Brazil will 📈 when people are lifted out of favelas and poverty is below 20%
@@knightmare1235 you really dont know whats happening in brazil '-'
@@vidal000 Covid crisis, crime, and poverty.
To brag about the country while ignoring the problems is very popular in Brasil.
BBC creates such documentaries/photos etc... about India all the time. I hope one day we too respond like the Brazilians.
Historically, this was a problem in Latin America and the Caribbean. Someone from outside, usually from the US or Europe would highlight one of our besetting problems, like poverty or corruption, and we would react. Not with introspection and attempts to improve, but with an anger born largely of embarrassment. So we engaged in "whataboutism" highlighting the failures of foreign socities, to show they were no better than us.
We demanded that our best features be displayed to the world, not our worst, but made little effort to really work on improving things.
Thankfully that has changed somewhat, but not everywhere.
Same problem with the Philippines. Instead of fixing the problem, it’s just all you hurt our pride
Its always about politics. Never about the actual meaning
Ive been to Cuba, and its very obvious which way of life socially and economically was and is more desirable, its a given.
I find that America and it's people love to talk about how bad other nations are and their issues but then refuse to talk about the same issues in their own nation.
I find it interesting that the comments are riddled with the same type arguments that the magazines used, finger pointing and "get-back". They both used poverty to political ends instead of highlighting the roots of it. It was theatre, from Rio to New York.
So basically it was two groups of well off people profiting of the suffering of others, wow so shocking.
Lol. Only the US was trying to profit. Brazil just wanted to hit back.
@@TheZachary86 how?, if you said so then all thing that make money is basically profitting off the people that it sell to. Stop antagonizing others
@@TheZachary86 lol yeah, but the Brazilian magazine still wanted to gain popularity from it
OMG! Não conhecia essa história! Realmente, no guarda-roupa zoa brasileiro e fica impune!!!
My goodness. I haven't heard of this. This should be called the Magazine War of Cold War.
Brazilian Magazine : Uno reverse.
All I can say wow credits to the Photographers
Brazil has a long history of paying back to the US. One might find this childish, but when the US introduced a new policy, taking photos from every traveler entering the country, I laughed my aas of, seeing in Sao Paulo three lines for emigration: Brazilian, Rest of the World, US. Just guess, in which line photos were taken ;-)
Brazil always did that when it came to travelers, it had a reciprocal policy. This only changed recently with bootlicker Bolsonaro
I’ve been to the photo exhibit here in Toronto, it was a really detailed and interesting experience. Exciting to see the story talked about here!
Was waiting for months for this!
Best series on youtube ever!!
Darkroom is probably my favorite Vox series, and that's a high bar.
Wow, what a video.
I am brazilian and i know a lot about the history of "O Cruzeiro", but I didnt knew this one. I must say that besids i do not agree with the channel opinion in some videos, i must that this is one of the best in the internet.
I studied Parks in my first year at Uni, and he's an incredible photographer and storyteller. I love his images, and especially in this context, I think it's important to remember that the words are not hs, but the editors, and that he also photographed the poor and needy in America, as well as other places. I do also want to say that Ballot's images are similarly moving, I think there is a place to show the struggles of people everywhere, and you don't have to do this all at the same time.
Amazing story, I’m an Brazilian and I love you content.
Its a shame & embarrassing that Brazil is infested with poverty high crime rate & corruption in spite of being an oil producing country (Petrobras) & so rich in natural resources They say Philippines is an underdeveloped poor corrupt country but Manila's slums pale in comparison to Rio's immense favelas
Americans in the comments "but Brazil is poorer", we're not saying we aren't. We are saying that you paint life in US as the greatest, when it's not, and most important, when it''s not for everyone. You're so proud to be a developed country, yet you're the most unequal one. A country that has the best universities and hospitals in the world, and people can't afford to use these services. I'm not denying the hunger, the mass imigration or any other of my country problems, I'm saying self criticism and awareness of your reality is nice sometimes.
Vox never ceases to amaze me
This way western countries show India as a poor country. Of course poverty is a huge problem. But there are bright sides too but they will not highlight those.
Thanks for changing the title, wasn't captured by it initially, but the video was great, thank you!
America: Destroys the continent
America: look how poor they are!
So Spain and Portugal didn’t hurt Latin America?
@@knightmare1235 esos idiotas metieron la esclavitud y el imperialismo temprano.
@@guillermodavidgarcia-rodri1628 They did, but why blame the US for latin america’s current problems instead of their own politicians?
@@knightmare1235 you say that like if the us dont have any fault in the latin american situation,
@@vidal000 They have done little damage to latin america compared to rebel groups in latin america funded by the USSR.
Alliance for Progress failed to increase American influence in the region? No way. It was fundamental in helping finding solidifying in before they helped organize the 1960s and 1970s coups.
USA: Shows poverty in Brazil
Brazil: Uno reverse
What happened to both families? Anyone else curious about them?
Yesss where's Flavio today?
@@letuswrap flavio returned to Brazil after his asthma treatment and was soon eking out a living as a security guard. but in the end he was still poor in brazil. the last article of his i could find is a 1997 latimes article
Great video and story. Being from Latin America, from my perspective I feel like a little more could be said about how the media weaponizes the good will of american progressives and liberals to "help" countries in the second and third world via policies that end up hurting those countries. As it is I feel like the video equates a little too much both magazines, and I feel like O Cruzeiro approach was quite effective. Both conservatives and liberals in the US understand the second and third world as poverty-ridden and destitute while ignoring a lot of american people and towns that have the exact same problem (although from what I gathered this blindness to the problem has started to go away in the last few years). In Latin America is still very much an open discussion and in general we react in pretty much the same way as O Cruzeiro did, we find the attitude of american progressives a tad too paternalistic and patronizing when it comes to this subject. Again, I still think this was a great video. Love this series.
Despite the exploitation of the subjects, both photographers were awesome! Alguém sabe mais sobre o fotógrafo da Cruzeiro?
I mean... That was a good way to hit back! Smart thinking imo
QUE VÍDEO SENSACIONAL, PARABÉNS! 🇧🇷
I was waiting for about 2 weeks for Vox's new video
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 The pot calling the kettle black! Really relate to this!
Control the media - control the people - control the world
Wow. What a brilliant video, perhaps one of the best I've watched from Vox. Thanks for making it!
The boon of photography in early 1900's.
To think the US loves to define people/countries/cultures according to their current agenda. This backfiring should be the norm.
And the poor just kept getting poorer in the Americas...
While the rich kept feeling good about themselves donating to a token foreign child, while denying poverty at home...
No wonder the initiative (or any intiative not addressing poverty directly) failed.
Awesome! Thank you!!! Hugs❤️❤️❤️ was perfectly timed!
Great video. Interesting to see two publications go after each other like that during that time.
You laid this out very well. Very clear and easy to follow. Congratulations.
Much love from Brasil
Using sad pics to get attention. Magazine in the past. Today is social media. The irony. The same story. Different year.
French, I'm working by your videos my english practice. Thanks a lot for the quality and the so much various sugbects.
In 1:01 map is inaccurate because Poland, Eastern Germany and Czechoslovakia were all part of USSR.
It would've been interesting to get the perspective of these kids decades after the story - that is if they are still alive, since they're probably in their 80's now.
wow. this is interesting! great job for putting this one!
Crude reality is that both countries after 50 years have extreme poverty
1 Corinthians 15:3-5👑
“For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve.”
I just binge watched the Darkroom series and I am blown away. Thank you for doing this and I can't wait to see more!
Great video! Unfortunately, this sort of poverty lens is still rampantly used by Western media for India and other South Asian countries
Amazing video! Congratulations!
Se os americanos não interferissem na política sul-americana do modo que fizeram, apoiando golpes e ditaduras, explorando economicamente e retirando recursos a América Latina teria encontrado por si seu caminho para a prosperidade. Como dizem aqui, "muito ajuda quem não atrapalha."
Both these photo essays are examples of white saviourism and colonialism.
They show how the cold war was an excuse for white powers (in Brasil and US in this example) to continue to colonize the world in a post-WW2 context. Photographers captured images of marginalized populations from their own point of view instead of adapting their cameras to capture their subjects own point of view. These photos are the polar-opposite of the photos taken by Lewis Hine of child-labourers in the US, where Lewis adapts his photography to depict what the child feels. Instead, these photo essays from white saviour magazines depict how the US and Brasil middle-class white population feel about children they don't even know.
Lol congrats to the Brazilian magazin. Really greatly done!
A parallel is how Hollywood has sensationalized slums in India .
Sensationalism works perfectly well even today !
Even without sensationalism india is a very very poor country though.
@@s1.m511 That's cuz you guys always see the slums, just like the Brazilian fabellas. An example of sensationalism. 🙃
And nothing changed since then.