Mustang Drum to Disc Brakes Tips and Tricks Episode 331 Autorestomod
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Tips and tricks for drum to disc brake conversions on Mustang, Cougar, Comet, Torino, Montego, Falcon. We show how to have the best install using the National Parts Depot Street Bandit kit. We discuss why we like the NPD street bandit kit.
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Mustang Disc Brake Conversion Kit Street Bandit: 1102-11SBA
I love the sense of humor on these videos!
the big kid with red hair is great
Cam is a gem for sure.
I have just done a complete rebuild of the brake lines. In Europe we use copper lines, not steel lines, its much easier to work with, and never corrode. It will last a life time. I have never heard about anyone having issues with copper lines, so a great maintenance free upgrade.
We use stainless steel in the US whenever it’s available. I converted my 1969 Mach 1 to full stainless lines and it looks amazing.
copper CERTAINLY corrodes
Great Job !! this video will help make my conversion from drum to disc on my 64 Falconchero. Here's one little correction I felt I needed to share with you. When using the expression, @14;51 you described the hose connection fitting like a "hotdog in a hallway".That particular expression is used when something fits really sloppy for example a size 3 penis and a size 14 vajayjay, not when something fits perfectly like a glove or like it was made for it. Other than that meaningless error, this is an excellent informative drum to disc conversion video that I'll definitely share with any of my friends.
I remember my first set of gloves! Great video boys!
I use schedule 40 pvc pipe in different diameters and a lathe to make seal drivers out of them making insertion easier such as the bearing cap. A lathe isn't always needed.
Lots of great tips here. Something I've found in my fist 600 miles of driving is that the stock-style 4-piston setup seems kinda finicky when it comes to getting good stopping power out of it. There are myriad adjustments that can come into play, none of which have anything directly to do with the disc setup itself, but that nonetheless affect the feel and responsiveness of the braking system. Adjustable pushrods are frequently supplied with kits (though I had better luck just using the stock push rod) - so there's an adjustment there. Then you have the adjustable proportioning valve. And the rear shoes have to be adjusted so they're slightly dragging or your pedal will be too low. Each adjustment incrementally increases the responsiveness and feel -- it takes some fiddling, and a whole lot of patience, to get it right.
Wow. I've been trying to figure out a horrible screeching sound from the front end of my 66 for a month. Belts, alternator, power steering pump all replaced...This weekend I checked the bearings and whilst there I found that the rotor shield was touching the caliper. Found your video and you mention the very thing!. I'm hoping to be able to trim it a bit in the next few days. I really hope its the problem as its driving me nuts as its intermittent. Love your videos!
Glad I could help
Watching Cam eat his hand... "priceless."
Wait! You didn't end with "See ya next time on Auto Resto Mooddd!!" Great video and great tips
Yeah, Jeff said his head felt like it had 40 bails of cotton with 60 pound loose lead weights in it. Took a lot just to get the scenes done that he did. LOL
Yeah buddy, it's coming together!
Low budgets are the cure for cascading builds.
I think that puts builds like our in the " ratty muscle car" section.
The suspension on your car looks great. Could you share how the suspension was built? thanks a lot.
Is there a rear disc conversion or do most people keep the drum back brakes?
Jeff, here is a good question and would make a great short video. What is the BEST way to adjust the proportioning valve? How sensitive is it ? quarter turns, full turns ? There has to be a better way than drive the car and see if the rear brakes lock up....tips ?
Good idea Robert, we will look into it and might handle that when we do the wheels on Punisher.
@@AutoRestoMod Thanks Jeff. Here is the part I don't understand. I already have a two bowl master so adding disc in the front, why does one need to tone down the BACK brakes if you are not adding a power booster ? Wongt they get the same pressure as usual ? Confused...or am I supposed to add the booster (please say I don't need it,,,lol)
Your front brakes should be getting more fluid than your rears, thus the bowl should be larger on the front. I'd rather have my brakes proportioned so the rear are engaged pretty heavily, just before lock up. The drums, if set correctly will actually stop better in a single panic stop than most disc brakes. But they fade, are prone to hold water longer, and are harder and harder to work on by the simple fact that stuff wears out (the pads on the backing plate) and are not serviced in many cases.
@@AutoRestoMod okay Jeff, NOW that makes sense !!! For some reason I was under the impression that it was to reduce them significantly ...okay ...I will go with the flow (pun intended..lol) THANK you once again....
Hey I've got a 63 fairlane with a v8. Drum brakes and I would really like to upgrade to disks in the front. Do these work on the 63 ???
Hmm... Couldn't find "tapping wrench" in the Snap-on catalog. Can I just use a Crescent wrench? Good idea using the pvc cap. Always felt weird using the socket.
Sure! Use the Crescent, I won't tell!
Thk for schooling me
Hey I've seen you do the American auto wire. What did you have to do with the wiper switch and wiper motor wiring? On a 1965 mustang!
What was the process/products used to paint the spindle?
Five years ago, I purchased a brake conversion kit from Mac’s auto that sat in a box until this week. It stated fitment for a 1964 Ranchero. Its description was: 41-83979-1 Front Disc Brake Conversion Kit, 5 Lug, Falcon, Ranchero, 1960-1965. So I assumed it was a perfect fit. Little that I know is this was to convert from a 4 lug on a V6 to a 5 lug as in a V8. The rotor bearings ID was way too narrow for the spindle. I contacted Mac’s technician and he suggested I get a bearing that would fit both parts. Problem is that the ID needed for the original spindle is too large and the OD for the rotor is too small. I thought about trying to just get a disc and place over the original hub, so I am in the process of hunting such a thing. Anyone else had such a problem? Suggestions?
Find out who the source supplier was for the desk brakes. They should have the correct bearing assemblies for a V8 that will probably slide right into that spindle.
Cutest couple ever. Hands down.
Thanks...but we broke up 🤣🤣🤣
Where did you get the suspension? I have been looking on your channel for a video of this suspension build, but haven't found it. I'm gonna put a '90 5.0 in my 65 Fastback and I would like to completely rebuild the front suspension and I want it to handle like it's on rails, what would you suggest?
We get our suspension parts from National Parts Depot. We just did the removal and install over at Manic Mechanic.
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oh come on jeff, the 4bt cummins would fit!!!!
any kits that can clear 14' wheels? Mustang 1967 manual transmission?
This kit will
Will 14x6 wheel work with street bandit kit?
Should. These brakes were designed to be used on the '65 Mustang GT and '66 Fairlane GT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON HOW TO COVERT 4 LUG TO 5 LUG ON 62 FALCON
Ted, We'll be converting the front end on our Ranchero in 2020. It isn't just spindles. All front end components need to be changed over for V8.
Tell Cam, I'll trade him Mustang Caps for his Magnum 500s for those Ford ones he's got it.
Wally, we have a set of Mustang ones. But, if you need the Ford ones we might let them go. get with Jeff: jford@autorestomod.com
I did the power disc brake upgrade on my 1968 Mustang Coup with the 4 piston KH style calipers. I got mine from www.discbrakeswap.com/ which comes with everything. including Braided hoses, grease, Lock tight and at a great price
Thanks for the tips and tricks! No thanks on all the jokes and messing around. "Just the facts, ma'am." ~ Joe Friday :-)
Never been fond of Friday, always liked Gannon, he had a sense of humor. Sorry that you don't like us being us, that is truly how we interact.
I know, I know. And, if I were hanging out with you guys I'd get right along with you. However, I'm searching UA-cam for information, not to be entertained. I'd prefer you guys get to the point a little quicker. Now, that being said, I truly appreciate the information. You guys give sound advice. I just thought I'd provide a little feedback in an effort to make your vids more efficiently informative. Thanks for all that you do!
We appreciate the input. Here is a tip: We generally have a minute to two of intro right after the NPD ad (please support them). That being said (you're welcome) We also enjoy ourselves, and we view it as a "show". If I were to do straight information it would not be my nature. We try and make it fun.
I like the fun part of the show as well as the how to stuff. I'm in the UK i have a classic late 70s Ford Escort so not a lot of the stuff translates much to Euro cars but some general tip and tricks do. But working on a project should be fun sometimes or it's just a chore.
Yeah, like I said, normally I would joke right along with them. However, I'm not working on my car as a hobby. I need to fix it to get to work on time. So, I frustratingly pop up a video and have to sit through jokes before I get to the meat and potatoes. But, I appreciate the videos and it's certainly better than nothing. Thanks again!
Morning Jeff...sir, can you email me so I can ask you some questions on this? Or if you email me a number I can call. I just put all new drum brake parts on my 66 restore (include 4 new drums) and I just don't like how it feels. Way too much pedal travel , yes, they are adjusted, bleed, two bowl new master...Maybe I just forgot how drums feel but they scare me ...my email is arcorob and that's at Hotmail. Would appreciate it as you usually answer my questions online but this is a bit lengthy :-)