Dang i hate the state of our Church in Sweden. Im studying to become a priest in the church of Sweden, i hope to be a part of some sort of a solution. Pray for me and the rest of us swedes guys🙏
My family are all Lutheran, with rich swedish heritage. All of my ancestors belonged to the Church of Sweden. You and those like you are in my prayers to save our Church! Thank God for folks like you!
Okay, fellow LCMS'ers, best behavior. Remember that Christ says that if we cannot talk to other christians in love, we are not truely His disciples (John 13:35). They will know us by our fruits. It's not enough to be right. You have to be humble, too.
To judge righteously. To leave prejudice behind and use only the Word when judging. I get that old fairy tale, you shall not judge! and what kind of a Christian are you to judge me! all the time from atheists. I tell brothers, we're to judge in righteousness and love BELIEVERS. That we are to help brothers in the Lord overcome what they're suffering. But, anti-christs are to be judged as God commands, with love, but not accepting what they claim.
True, and I will add that a lot of us are snarky, which is all fun and good, but a lot of people will think it's not loving, so, for the sake of the weaker brother, we should probably pull back on the snark, even though we know we can be snarky and loving simultaneously.
Converted to Lutheranism a few weeks ago at a LCMS church in my town. Best decision I ever made. It’s probably the only church I know in town that goes into passionate detail about the Gospels of Christ.
isnt it weird picking and choosing a denomination based on these trivial things? all Christian based religion all say one thing and ends with one thing...accept Jesus as your savior, repent of your sins, thats it. Why does it matter what denomination we belong to? do we get extra saved points?
@@Naham00 I understand where you’re coming from. I probably said it poorly. The point I was trying to make was that the Lutheran church I started going to was the only one in town that talked about the gospel of Christ with such detail and passion. Most of, if not all, churches in town were just false churches that just want money. It’s also the only one that does the Eucharist. It’s a relief for me to find a real church. But you are right, Jesus Christ is the way, not choosing denominations. Hope this made it more clear to you.
@@Naham00 because anyone with any understanding would never call Gods gifts “trivial things”. Any denomination that denies the doctrines of the ecumenical creeds are not a denomination, because they deny the very basic beliefs of Christianity, and hence deny salvation.
i’ve been going to a LCMS church for a while now and am going to ask to be catechized tomorrow! great video edit: GUYS im sooo happy! i was pretty nervous the whole day but still excited to ask the pastor but usually he’s greeting people as they leave so i was thinking about not saying anything and might just email him but when i was passing by as he was greeting me he asked for my name and info and we talked about some youth thing they have and me getting catechized because they’re starting soon so it was good timing. i just thought it was so cool because i’ve been praying about it and for discernment of whether or not i should ask but i probably wouldn’t have even said anything if he didn’t ask! glory to God!
I went through an LCMS catechism, decided I could not say I believe that the Bible states that pastors hold the keys to heaven and speak as Jesus' voice on earth. So I could not swear that I agree that their catechism is correct.
6:41 What you said is right, but a little context/point to add is, that us lutherans generally believe in monergistic salvation, synergistic damnation. Like you said, salvation is entirely god's work, nothing we do. But if we are damned, it's our own fault. It doesn't anwer the "why" question, that's a mystery, it just describes the reality, that one can actively "abandon"/"walk away" from the faith. It accurately describes that the Bible talks both about god predestining us all, and also holding us responsible for our own actions. How predestination and this 'being held responsible' work together is a mystery. Also 2:30 thanks for giving context to "baptism saves", namely that it's the faith that saves, not the act of baptism, which is just one way god creates faith. Because baptism is water+word combined and faith comes through the word of god. All in all a very good simplified depiction of what we believe :)
We Lutherans believe in baptismal regeneration so baptism saves giving faith regeneration the person. What he said was alright i think so anyways, im not a perfect lutheran.
I was kind of worried about this one, but you nailed it. I'm an LCMS Lutheran (former WELS, switched for practical reasons; theology is the same) and this is easily one of the best 2-3 overviews of Lutheranism I've ever heard.
Theology is the same on paper, yes, but in practice the LCMS has a more broad range of church styles. Some are more liberal, some are extremely liturgical and traditional (more than WELS, even) but WELS is more consistenly conservative, but often less liturgical
@@eliegbert8121 WELS doesn't allow women to do anything in church. WELS doesn't pray with any people who aren't WELS. Overall it's pretty similar theology, just more conservative in general. (I'm LCMS but went to a WELS school in elementary and middle school).
I go to a ELCS Church regularly, just about everything in this video is spot on. Communion every Sunday (very important), songs/singing absolutely beautiful, we read not exclusively the New Testament but everything complements Jesus’ work. Always a thankful, humble congregation giving praise to Christ. Also very active with scripture study, addiction classes, food drives, charity events, etc... I’m moved to tears almost every service. God’s work, our hands! ✝️❤️🙏
I'm glad Lutheranism was not misrepresented in the video, though the bias did kinda show up in the comparisons with Calvinists 😆 Hope people can see the truthful tradition that Lutheranism is and finally understand that baptism saves.
@@pedroguimaraes6094There seems to be a framing effect bias that puts something that could just as easily be portrayed in a positive light in another context (God's sovereignty) as being diminishable. At least that's what I assume, as a non-Calvinist I definitely see jabs at Calvinism here.
@@morrisvalentneflatlander4784 It's through faith alone that we receive the benefits of God's work for us (The Cross, Resurrection, Ascension, Creation, Baptism, Absolution, Preaching, Eucharist, etc.); without faith God's work is condemnation for us, the difference between Lot and his daughters' betrotheds in Sodom's destruction.
@@Procopius464 I’m in a non-denominational church that I don’t see leaving at any point unless something drastic happens. I’m very happy in the church I’m in, but I saw this video and felt what was written on my heart confirmed
@@mediocresunshine I get that. I didn't want to leave my last church either, as I had nothing against them, but I did it anyways because I realized that if I were coming to either of them for the first time then I would have picked the LCMS church. It's up to you though. If you're heavily involved and have friends and family in that church then I can understand not changing.
@@sisyphusofephyra7801 Careful with all that Christian history and theology. You might wind up being Catholic someday! 😱 something, something, personal experience
@@ignatiusjackson235 The more i study Church history, theology AND read the bible (that important) more secure i'm about being a historical protestant. Those who just read about Church history end up becoming Orthodox. Those who just read the bible end up becoming Baptist or Pentecostal. Those who read both Church history and theology end up becoming Roman Catholic. Those who read both Church history, theology and the Bible end up becoming Historical protestants. And this is precisely how it happened through history.
@@ignatiusjackson235 Nope, only If you read your Theology into the Scripture. Once Catholic Priest and theologian started reading the Bible, they joined the Protestant Reformation. Thats precisely what the Magisterial Reformation was. Cope
This is a very unique insight into the Lutheran denomination I'm a baptist from South Africa and Lutheran are pretty much non existent here so it was really good to learn and this denomination
I think that might quote be a myth, and even then under Lutheranism, believers still have our new nature where we are no longer 'totally depraved' so we are capable of doing spiritual good.
"Lutheranism is more Christ-centered and Gospel-centered than any other Christian tradition." This is most certainly true, and this is why I'm Lutheran.
are we not all children of Jesus? I have met some wonderful baptists and some real scoundrels too. I think there are good and bad in all denominations. Just look at the current antichrist pope.
@@NotAGoodUsername360 Sure, because he was a pompous, argumentative, bi-polar, painfully self-conscious dude... like all the rats who disrespect Pope Francis.
@@jvoges I love how persistent Catholics are in trying to make everyone Catholic. I guess it makes sense if you believe that Catholics are the one true church.
As a staunch LCMS Lutheran, yes, I absolutely have a crush on Eastern Orthodoxy because they uphold tradition and mystery. And yes, I also realize it's probably a one way street, lol.
@@PrayTheJesusPrayer I find it funny Lutherans like Eastern Orthodox more than Anglicans where it looks like adherents of Anglican theology get indifference.
On the contrary, I've had some wonderful experiences visiting our Orthodox brothers and sisters for worship. I've found them to be very welcoming of western Christians and would encourage those who are interested to visit. I've only visited a handful of churches, but most times I've had friendly theological conversations, several times over lunch. My impression is that they see more kinship with Lutherans than pretty much any other protestants since we tend to have quite a bit more in common with them. In my experience they're very friendly and welcoming.
As someone who is a new christian who started going to a lutheran church as my first church, then EO for four months, and coming back to lutheranism, i can totally understand your sympathies with EO. haha. i have much respect.
Thank you redeemed zoomer for your wonderful videos, could you do a video on how to be a good Christian as a teen. Especially in a non Christian home. Thank you.
Step 1 reject Protestantism and other man made beliefs, step 2 embrace tradition in the actual church that Christ founded and intended to shepherd, his sheep. Become Catholic or orthodox
Good video, but three quick corrections: -Luther never used the snow covered dung analogy. We actually cant find that anywhere in his writings. -Lutherans generally accept, per the Smalcald articles, that unrepentant sin is mortal sin. So one can actually lose their salvation by living in unrepentant sin. -Im not sure that Lutherans would say that nobody is not predestined. They'd generally rather say that God does not predestine people to hell. Other than that, good video!
Thanks for this man It's so easy to lose sight of why I became Lutheran a few years ago in all the church politics and culture wars, and this video felt like a cool drink after working in the sun all day - incredibly refreshing. Also, can confirm that I'm an Anglican appreciator lol, I adore Anglican liturgy and the Book of Common Prayer
As a LCMS Lutheran this was an excellent explanation of Lutheranism. I especially appreciated you ending the video with a might fortress is our God an excellent hymn.
@kze24 Well, that's a tough question to answer. Anglicans can be very diverse. However, I was talking about having episcopal polity instead of congregational polity, and anglicans believe there are 7 sacraments just like roman Catholics. The only difference is that they differentiate them. Baptism and the eucharist are called sacraments of the gospel, and the other 5, confession and absolution, included called penance, are called sacraments of the church. I think these would benefit the LCMS. It goes more in line with the early church, and they have biblical support. Thoughts?
@@legacyandlegend I'm no expert but on the issue of church government, but episcopal polity seems like a good way to ensure that the pastor is properly certified, but congregational polity is a good way to make sure that the pastor is a good fit for that congregation. I've only ever been in churches with congregational polity, so I don't know. As for the sacraments, it really comes down to your definition of the word sacrament. Marriage, ordination, absolution, confirmation, and the anointing of the sick are all good things, but it's important to recognize that those were either not instituted by God, don't save, or both. We also have to make clear that salvation is by faith alone, not by doing things like getting married, ordained, confirmed, or anointed. As for penance itself, I think Martin Luther said that baptism is like penance, except that it lasts for one's whole life (unless one rejects God obviously).
@kze24 Those are very fair points. As for sacraments, I think it's important to understand that the bible never gives us a definition for them. If we go by Luther's definition, it would mean baptism and eucharist are the only two. If we go by Melanchthon's definition, it would mean baptism, eucharist, and penance are the only three. If we go by what the apostles taught in the early church and consider rites that convey grace to be sacraments, then all 7 would be sacraments. Marriage, orders, confirmation, and anointing of the sick all convey grace and are biblical. As for faith alone, anglicans would affirm faith alone salvation. They just believe that God gave us all 7 sacraments as a means of grace. They would only consider baptism and eucharist as generally necessary for salvation. The other 5 would be considered sacraments. They're just not on the same level as baptism and eucharist.
I have n very been to high church. And this is kinda convinced me to check Lutheranism out and Dr Cooper. Wow. Good video zoomer, I hope to make videos soon too brother, may the Lord keep using you! 🙏
As a LCMS Lutheran I can say that this was a very accurate description of us. We prefer to be called reformers than protestants because we don't hate the RCC we just want to practice pure Catholicism that does not have purgatory and indulgences. We didn't even remove the 7 deuterocannonical books we just put them in the back of the Bible, we still use them in our lectionaries. We do simp for EO and have Icons in our Narthex, libraries and chapels. We do appeal to church history, tradition and mystery more than most Protestant's. Our pastors wear clerical collars and vestments like priests. We have crucifixes and crosses. I also grew up WELS and they are STRICT. We are to Catholic for most protestants and to protestant for most Catholics. We have one sided love for the Orthodox. Baptist's bash things Catholic's believe like infant baptism, Transubstantiation/real presence and salvific nature of these sacraments but fail to realize that Lutheran's and many other Non catholics believe these too and dealing with them reveals how removed they are from what most Christians believe and have believed for thousands of years but they so aggressive in their denial of these things that it is genuinely annoying. To my baptist/non-denom brothers and sisters please stop assuming that everything you disagree with is Catholic...
I’m thinking about joining the Lcms. Do you guys ask the saints for intercession? Btw your last sentence is spot on. I love my mother but she’s basically oneness Pentecostal and thinks if the pastor is wearing robes it’s automatically a Catholic Church.
@@ravenvane2227 We do not ask for the intercession of saints. This is not because it is clearly wrong, but because there is not enough good reason to do so. The saints are truly alive and we believe in the communion of saints. But, I'd rather pray in the name of Jesus who promises that I can pray through him to the Father, than pray to a saint who may or may not pray for me. Why would I ask St. Anthony to help me find my car keys, when I can literally ask God himself to help me find my car keys. I know God hears me, I don't know St. Anthony hears me. It's not certain, and its not worth the risk.
@@redknight8212 This is a great answer, the way my church and most other Lutherans explained it is that communion of saints as described In book of revelation seems to certainly imply saints in both worship and pray to God in heaven. Although they pray, and probably even pray for us there is no evidence that they directly here our request for prayer. Most Lutherans are agnostic in the issue. I do believe the saints are alive in Christ and that there are a few scriptures that suggest it is in theory possible to ask for their prayers but I lean against it because it's unclear. I don't think it is a sin however, I do think it could become sin when people rely on the prayers of the saints more than praying directly to God. Sometimes when I pray I end it with 'hear my prayers and all the prayers of your saints in Jesus precious name Amen " I treat my prayer as part of the concert of prayer being said by all Christians in heaven and on earth.
I'm very thankful you made this video. I love the Lutheran church. It's a shame I don't have any in my denomination near me, but I'm still Lutheran in my heart.
Important to note that for Lutherans, the writings of Philip Melanchthon and Martin Chemnitz are as authoritative as those of Luther. They co-wrote The Book of Concord, the main confessional text.
I think theologically I agree the most with the Lutheran views, even though I go to a Baptist church regularly and an "old time gospel" southern non-denom Bible church when I visit home. I'm interested in attending one of the historical Lutheran churches in my hometown I found on your map, but I've gotten pretty close to my congregation. It would feel dirty I guess 😂
Go for it, but I would advise that you check ahead of time whether the particular Lutheran church you're interested in attending practices open or closed communion.
Wow. This comment goes deeper than you’d think. I think “Getting lost in the sauce” is what worries me about Catholic tradition, if anything. Can’t see the forest for the trees - can’t see Jesus Christ through the gaudy architecture, murals, and thousands of years of denominational culture. That said, I’ve dramatically softened towards liturgy and spiritual imagery. I’ve mostly matured past the “get that framed Mary picture off your wall!” phase.
As for getting lost in the sauce, Lutherans believe that the sacraments are effectual not in and of themselves, but only as they are received through faith.
As a WELS Lutheran in the deep south of the US, we, even as standard tradition say, "Please,rise(stand) for the Gospel reading". We have a big out reach to Nepal and Vietnam. We are directly traced from Germany. But most ask about our whole predestination dilemma , and how it doesn't make sense, I always say what makes sense to humans may not for God. Though I guess it isn't super valid. We are most concentrated in the Midwest, and I advise you to check out Martin Luther College in Minnesota. Hope this helps. Thank you for including A Mighty Fortress Is Our God
Wisconsin Lutheran in the Deep South? Lol, I bet you feel out of place. I’m probably going to join the Lcms. My theology is honestly closer to Methodist but their conservative churches seem few and far between.
Although I’ve leaned more toward Agnostic, I was raised in the Lutheran faith and appreciate the values I was taught. I will always remember the church I went to when I was young and will never forget my pastor, a great man and friend to everyone in his congregation. Love and miss you Pastor Pieper. ❤️
It is not true that Lutherans believe that faith is not a requirement for communion. In Luther's small catechism, he writes "whoever believes these words 'given for the forgiveness of sins'" is worthy to take communion.
I agree. I was confirmed Lutheran we could not partake in the Lord's Supper until we were confirmed essentially taking 2 years of classes to understand why we were baptized as infants.
@@vitamc1213 What he was saying is that Jesus's true body and blood are objectively received by anyone who receives the sacrament, whether or not they have faith. This is a different view from the reformed tradition, which believes that Jesus's body and blood are made spiritually present only for those who receive by faith -- meaning that in the reformed view those without faith only receive bread and wine but not Jesus's body and blood. In the Lutheran understanding of the sacrament, both believers and unbelievers receive Jesus's true body and blood, but the believer receives it to their benefit and the unbeliever to their damnation.
My boyfriend and I come from a long line of Lutherans (he's Norwegian + I'm Finn), and we love our 125 year old ECLA church. It's Christ and Gospel centered. The liturgy is beautiful, traditional, and warms our hearts. It's full of love and friendliness. I've explored many denominations, but Lutherans are the most Christ and Gospel centered aside from being the warmest and most loving people (who also LOVE to discuss theology). I never felt as connected to the MASSIVE very modern Non-Denominational church I grew up in, it was nice but the Christian rock music doesn't compare to the beauty, piety, and feeling of true worship when we sing our hymns - I feel like I'm praying to the Lord when I sing versus just listening to music. The sermons of our Lutheran pastor are so joyful, engaging, and full of understandable wisdom, I feel more connected to and focused on them than any services I've heard before.
He nailed our relationship with the Calvinists, too. I can't speak for all Lutherans, but I'd respect them more if they'd ever answer any of my theological questions where we disagree, but, I think they know that if they examined the answers too closely, they'd become Lutheran lol.
@@TheNabOwnzz Which part? The getting answers part (my personal experience is in agreement, if so) or the becoming Lutheran part (my personal experience is 0 on that front, because they'll never answer my questions on the subjects that separate Lutherans and Calvinists).
If I wasn't Lutheran I'd probably Orthodox or maybe Anglican. I think my biggest struggle would be adjusting to the liturgy. As beautiful as the Orthodox liturgy is, I really do feel at home in the western rite.
Even before you later mentioned the encounter between Luther and the Ethiopian deacon, I noticed an important miaphysite topic when you talked about the "communication of attributes" in the Eucharist. Very good video!
@@legacyandlegend it meant I had to pledge and become a full member, and not be involved at any other church. At the time I have a pastor at another church mentoring me.
Two conflicting churches: one says baptism saves, the other says no; one says the Eucharist is the real body and blood of Jesus, the other denies it. What do you believe about sacraments?
I did that for a bit. The Church of Christ guys wouldn't answer my questions about what they believed Communion was, though, which irritated me. I'm now firmly Lutheran because they know and say what they believe and challenge opponents to disprove anything they teach by using Scripture while politely offering to show anyone who comes to learn where in Scripture they derive their teachings from. It's the most honest and straight-forward denomination I've encountered.
@@christian-q3v The sacraments are known across all Protestant denominations: baptism and the communion. Yes, the Church of Christ has the Baptist view by believing that bread and wine is just bread and wine but we symbolically receive the body and blood. But at least Lutherans have the bread AND wine. I was originally raised Catholic and didn't like how they only have the bread.
@@liquidtompls5666 Because the church can never appear to be affirming homosexuality, so it needs to be taken from them. Manipulate them into rejecting the symbol
From PNG 🇵🇬 and love the explanation. I'm a Lutheran and one time i went to a mart to buy some food and the lady at the counter saw my necklace and she just said oh your necklace is shining on your neck and its beautiful and i didn't know what to say but I thank her for the speech ❤❤
LCMS Lutheran here: Universalists don’t claim that people don’t go to hell, they simply don’t believe in hell as eternal conscious torment and that all will eventually be restored unto God. Perhaps Unitarian Universalists would hold to the belief of no literal hell, but they’re not creedal Christians and therefore have no credibility on any theological matter. That said, great video!
Normally, it's the exact opposite. Lutherans simp after the Orthodox because they're not papists but the Orthodox don't care for the Lutherans because they're not part of the "one true church"
You gave us a really fair shake. Thank you! The only issue I have is that technically our Communion view is one of spiritual and not physical presence. Dr. Jordan Cooper is quite clear to say this and I believe he cites Martin Chemnitz for this but I could be remembering the wrong Lutheran scholastic.
Having watched the video, this was awesome! I thought you did exactly what I wanted in this video, which was to give a good overview of the parallel perspectives on a lot the nuances between us, especially our perspective of "Distant vs Intimate." Just a few additions, though you might have done way deeper research on our theology than I have, so there's the possibility I'm misinformed but; We don't hold to God predestining everyone, we hold to God predestining all of those who will be saved, but we don't believe in the idea of him "passing over" people either. We wouldn't even say that he predestines everyone, just that there are no reprobate by God's sovereign will. And this is a common one, while we DO believe that the Eucharist does operate with a communication of attributes to imbue the human body with divine attributes, we avoid any language that implies "being everywhere at once" and AFAIK, there's been an explicit clarification by our scholastics that it posses the ability to be in many places, but not necessarily everywhere at once. The relationship of our theologians to the question of how MUCH of the divine attribute is communicated varies, but typically I find that Lutherans try to avoid the ideas of "Infinity" and such that Reformed seem to use. Also, on a subjective level, I personally think that Reformed is more Sola Gratia and Soli Deo Gloria and contrasts with Lutherans being more Sola Fide and Solus Christus personally. Especially with the Christo-centrism and universal appeal to clinging to faith in the cross being contrasted with Reformed view of complete sovereignty to the highest degree and the complete lack of any basic autonomy of the human, and that complete dependence on grace for all things, not just salvation, seems to be a higher point of emphasis with Reformed, though I think Lutherans speak of grace a lot too. I could totally be wrong about the first two points If anyone wants to source to correct me, but as far as my knowledge and theology is concerned, that's all I had to add. Awesome video and you really did the Lutherans great! Much love Christ and God bless.
WELS Lutheran here, I would love to hear about the Episcopal church. I visited the National Cathedral and heard some unfamiliar, inconsistant or even contradicting theology and works of art, such as a "billion year old space rock" on one side and creation depicted in stain glass on the other. Now i'm interested in whether this goes for the majority of the denominations or just a select few.
Because they walked away from what the early church was. The only other protestant denomination that can say they have roots in the early church are anglicans.
Dang i hate the state of our Church in Sweden. Im studying to become a priest in the church of Sweden, i hope to be a part of some sort of a solution. Pray for me and the rest of us swedes guys🙏
Lutheran church in Sweden is cancer like it is here in Finland nowadays
God bless you🙏
You should join the European Reconquista to fight for our churches!
My family are all Lutheran, with rich swedish heritage. All of my ancestors belonged to the Church of Sweden. You and those like you are in my prayers to save our Church! Thank God for folks like you!
Gud välsigna dig rädda svenska kyrkan ASAP plzzz
Okay, fellow LCMS'ers, best behavior. Remember that Christ says that if we cannot talk to other christians in love, we are not truely His disciples (John 13:35). They will know us by our fruits. It's not enough to be right. You have to be humble, too.
To judge righteously. To leave prejudice behind and use only the Word when judging. I get that old fairy tale, you shall not judge! and what kind of a Christian are you to judge me! all the time from atheists. I tell brothers, we're to judge in righteousness and love BELIEVERS. That we are to help brothers in the Lord overcome what they're suffering. But, anti-christs are to be judged as God commands, with love, but not accepting what they claim.
Why does your comment say 2 days ago but this vid was posted 40 minutes ago?
@@comey14 God works in mysterious ways.
@@gabesternberg555 tell that to the ortho bros
True, and I will add that a lot of us are snarky, which is all fun and good, but a lot of people will think it's not loving, so, for the sake of the weaker brother, we should probably pull back on the snark, even though we know we can be snarky and loving simultaneously.
Converted to Lutheranism a few weeks ago at a LCMS church in my town. Best decision I ever made. It’s probably the only church I know in town that goes into passionate detail about the Gospels of Christ.
Peace be with you
isnt it weird picking and choosing a denomination based on these trivial things? all Christian based religion all say one thing and ends with one thing...accept Jesus as your savior, repent of your sins, thats it. Why does it matter what denomination we belong to? do we get extra saved points?
@@Naham00 I understand where you’re coming from. I probably said it poorly. The point I was trying to make was that the Lutheran church I started going to was the only one in town that talked about the gospel of Christ with such detail and passion. Most of, if not all, churches in town were just false churches that just want money. It’s also the only one that does the Eucharist. It’s a relief for me to find a real church. But you are right, Jesus Christ is the way, not choosing denominations. Hope this made it more clear to you.
Passion on the passion
@@Naham00 because anyone with any understanding would never call Gods gifts “trivial things”. Any denomination that denies the doctrines of the ecumenical creeds are not a denomination, because they deny the very basic beliefs of Christianity, and hence deny salvation.
i’ve been going to a LCMS church for a while now and am going to ask to be catechized tomorrow! great video
edit: GUYS im sooo happy! i was pretty nervous the whole day but still excited to ask the pastor but usually he’s greeting people as they leave so i was thinking about not saying anything and might just email him but when i was passing by as he was greeting me he asked for my name and info and we talked about some youth thing they have and me getting catechized because they’re starting soon so it was good timing. i just thought it was so cool because i’ve been praying about it and for discernment of whether or not i should ask but i probably wouldn’t have even said anything if he didn’t ask! glory to God!
Glory be to God, welcome
Congratulations!
Hey good for you! I am currently being catechized with LCMS too.
@@sawyerjenson7767 thats awesome, praying for u!
I went through an LCMS catechism, decided I could not say I believe that the Bible states that pastors hold the keys to heaven and speak as Jesus' voice on earth. So I could not swear that I agree that their catechism is correct.
6:41 What you said is right, but a little context/point to add is, that us lutherans generally believe in monergistic salvation, synergistic damnation. Like you said, salvation is entirely god's work, nothing we do. But if we are damned, it's our own fault. It doesn't anwer the "why" question, that's a mystery, it just describes the reality, that one can actively "abandon"/"walk away" from the faith. It accurately describes that the Bible talks both about god predestining us all, and also holding us responsible for our own actions. How predestination and this 'being held responsible' work together is a mystery.
Also 2:30 thanks for giving context to "baptism saves", namely that it's the faith that saves, not the act of baptism, which is just one way god creates faith. Because baptism is water+word combined and faith comes through the word of god.
All in all a very good simplified depiction of what we believe :)
We Lutherans believe in baptismal regeneration so baptism saves giving faith regeneration the person. What he said was alright i think so anyways, im not a perfect lutheran.
What happens when a bunch of mostly sober Germans start reading the Bible again
Sober Germans? What next flying pig?
Sober?? I know you’re not talking about us Lutherans. 🍻
How dare you infer that we are sober! 😂
Answer the Amish
@Eyb0ssfu Nice to see that Romanists can still resort to the same tired, old slanders as usual on a Sunday morning.
I was kind of worried about this one, but you nailed it. I'm an LCMS Lutheran (former WELS, switched for practical reasons; theology is the same) and this is easily one of the best 2-3 overviews of Lutheranism I've ever heard.
Theology is the same on paper, yes, but in practice the LCMS has a more broad range of church styles. Some are more liberal, some are extremely liturgical and traditional (more than WELS, even) but WELS is more consistenly conservative, but often less liturgical
@@eliegbert8121 WELS doesn't allow women to do anything in church. WELS doesn't pray with any people who aren't WELS. Overall it's pretty similar theology, just more conservative in general. (I'm LCMS but went to a WELS school in elementary and middle school).
My boyfriend is Lutheran, and I've been wanting to learn about his denomination, this was very helpful! God bless 🙏
@@thejoshuaproject3809Ditto on that. All these are 10/10. And feel free to ask as many questions as you like, especially of our pastors.
@@thejoshuaproject3809and the book of concord
@@thejoshuaproject3809and “On the Jews and their Lies” by Luther.
What denom are you?
I go to a ELCS Church regularly, just about everything in this video is spot on. Communion every Sunday (very important), songs/singing absolutely beautiful, we read not exclusively the New Testament but everything complements Jesus’ work. Always a thankful, humble congregation giving praise to Christ. Also very active with scripture study, addiction classes, food drives, charity events, etc... I’m moved to tears almost every service.
God’s work, our hands! ✝️❤️🙏
I recently switched from the PCA to the LCMS, and I’m so excited to see to see how RZ tackles the first branch of the Protestant tradition!
Congratulations! I'm converting from Catholicism to Lutheranism myself and joining the LCMS
@@JustinCage56WOW you're one of a kind!
@@JustinCage56 I joined the LCMS last year after going to an Orthodox Church. So glad to have you with us! God bless!
Don't forget about the Moravians!
@@JustinCage56 stay catholic
Luther would have a heart attack if he walked into a mega church
reall
Could you imagine him seeing the coffee shops and merch stores??😂
Luther: ze f*ck?!, where is ze altar?!, where is ze Eucharist?!
I'm glad Lutheranism was not misrepresented in the video, though the bias did kinda show up in the comparisons with Calvinists 😆 Hope people can see the truthful tradition that Lutheranism is and finally understand that baptism saves.
What bias?
@@pedroguimaraes6094There seems to be a framing effect bias that puts something that could just as easily be portrayed in a positive light in another context (God's sovereignty) as being diminishable. At least that's what I assume, as a non-Calvinist I definitely see jabs at Calvinism here.
The only doctrine I disagree with. Baptism doesn't save because you have to be saved before you're baptized. It's faith alone or it's not.
If baptism is a gift from God why can't the recipient be justified? Seems the Lutheran position makes sense now.@@morrisvalentneflatlander4784
@@morrisvalentneflatlander4784 It's through faith alone that we receive the benefits of God's work for us (The Cross, Resurrection, Ascension, Creation, Baptism, Absolution, Preaching, Eucharist, etc.); without faith God's work is condemnation for us, the difference between Lot and his daughters' betrotheds in Sodom's destruction.
Omg I never knew I was a Lutheran until now. It feels good to have your beliefs affirmed!!!!
Go find your local LCMS service and talk to the pastor before service. The rest is up to The Lord. God bless!
What denomination are you in now?
@@Procopius464 I’m in a non-denominational church that I don’t see leaving at any point unless something drastic happens. I’m very happy in the church I’m in, but I saw this video and felt what was written on my heart confirmed
@@mediocresunshine I get that. I didn't want to leave my last church either, as I had nothing against them, but I did it anyways because I realized that if I were coming to either of them for the first time then I would have picked the LCMS church. It's up to you though. If you're heavily involved and have friends and family in that church then I can understand not changing.
Man even as an atheist I find the videos about Christian history and denominations fascinating
I agree.
@@sisyphusofephyra7801 Careful with all that Christian history and theology. You might wind up being Catholic someday! 😱 something, something, personal experience
@@ignatiusjackson235 The more i study Church history, theology AND read the bible (that important) more secure i'm about being a historical protestant. Those who just read about Church history end up becoming Orthodox. Those who just read the bible end up becoming Baptist or Pentecostal. Those who read both Church history and theology end up becoming Roman Catholic. Those who read both Church history, theology and the Bible end up becoming Historical protestants. And this is precisely how it happened through history.
@@pedroguimaraes6094 That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The more you read the Bible, the more obvious Catholicism becomes.
@@ignatiusjackson235 Nope, only If you read your Theology into the Scripture. Once Catholic Priest and theologian started reading the Bible, they joined the Protestant Reformation. Thats precisely what the Magisterial Reformation was. Cope
I'm not Lutheran. Lutheranism is the best of Protestantism. Hands down, no question.
Why not join us?
And you why not join us?
Why not join us?
Because he's not protestant, that's why he won't join you.
@@bobbobberson5627john 13:35
This is a very unique insight into the Lutheran denomination
I'm a baptist from South Africa and Lutheran are pretty much non existent here so it was really good to learn and this denomination
There are lots of Lutherans nearby in Namibia though.
Luther using a poop metaphor was very on brand
He wrote the 95 theses on the toilet. Very fitting.
@@USDebtCrisis he used metaphorical language to describe how sad and despairing he was like “being in the toilet”
@@USDebtCrisis Makes sense. He clearly thought and preached with his butt.
@@ignatiusjackson235 Thomas Moore's A Response to Luther is pure gold
I think that might quote be a myth, and even then under Lutheranism, believers still have our new nature where we are no longer 'totally depraved' so we are capable of doing spiritual good.
"Lutheranism is more Christ-centered and Gospel-centered than any other Christian tradition." This is most certainly true, and this is why I'm Lutheran.
Hmm
are we not all children of Jesus? I have met some wonderful baptists and some real scoundrels too. I think there are good and bad in all denominations. Just look at the current antichrist pope.
Hmmm
Hmmm.....you may want to read corinthians 3.
"This is most certainly true"
I see what you did there.
As someone, who was a WELS-trained pastor, you represented my denomination fairly. Thank you!
denominations explained is my favorite series on this channel
LCMS bro here! Very fair and well done video! I am really enjoying this series. Helps me love all the beauty in all of Christendom even more ❤✝️
If only Luther could now see the state of the Mainline protestant churches.
i mean he was against most of the other schisms back then
Wouldn't have mattered. If he saw Pope Francis, he would be all the more enthusiastic about debating the fallibility of the Church.
95 Theses, take two. Might need 950 instead.
That’s what the Reconquista is for
@@NotAGoodUsername360 Sure, because he was a pompous, argumentative, bi-polar, painfully self-conscious dude... like all the rats who disrespect Pope Francis.
Okay. Im vibing withe these dudes the most
You might want to look to see if there is an LCMS church in your area (or WELS or ELS). We'd love to have you join us!
Aw man why not Catholicism?
@@jvoges I love how persistent Catholics are in trying to make everyone Catholic. I guess it makes sense if you believe that Catholics are the one true church.
As a staunch LCMS Lutheran, yes, I absolutely have a crush on Eastern Orthodoxy because they uphold tradition and mystery. And yes, I also realize it's probably a one way street, lol.
Same thing here Brother! Wish the EO's liked us more 😂
@@PrayTheJesusPrayer I find it funny Lutherans like Eastern Orthodox more than Anglicans where it looks like adherents of Anglican theology get indifference.
On the contrary, I've had some wonderful experiences visiting our Orthodox brothers and sisters for worship. I've found them to be very welcoming of western Christians and would encourage those who are interested to visit. I've only visited a handful of churches, but most times I've had friendly theological conversations, several times over lunch. My impression is that they see more kinship with Lutherans than pretty much any other protestants since we tend to have quite a bit more in common with them. In my experience they're very friendly and welcoming.
As someone who is a new christian who started going to a lutheran church as my first church, then EO for four months, and coming back to lutheranism, i can totally understand your sympathies with EO. haha. i have much respect.
We just wish you guys just rejoined us instead of starting your own thing.
I love the Bach piano piece in the background, very fitting
My favorite composer. Yes, absolutely bueatiful.
@@jtbasener8740 ooo yes, I love Bach too
Indeed but he converted to Catholicism when he moved to Italy in 1760. He died a Catholic later in 1782.
@@ludwigvanbeethoven8164 doesn't mean he is any less based
No, that was his son, Johann CHRISTIAN Bach, not Johann Sebastian Bach.
Love to all lutherans from a brazilian catholic ❤
Love back at you from a USA Lutheran.
Thank you redeemed zoomer for your wonderful videos, could you do a video on how to be a good Christian as a teen. Especially in a non Christian home.
Thank you.
God bless!
You too, you have been a wonderful person to look up to.
Step 1 reject Protestantism and other man made beliefs, step 2 embrace tradition in the actual church that Christ founded and intended to shepherd, his sheep. Become Catholic or orthodox
As an ELCA pastor, I’ll give this a 9/10 on Lutheranism. Well done my man.
Why not come and join?
Based lutheranism
Luther was an apolcalypticist who thought that the pope was the antichrist and that the world was going to end before 1600
@@pedroguimaraes6094 Who started Lutheranism?
@@thegreatandmightyseff7214Melanchthon.
How was your comment posted 3 days ago? The video came out 1 hour ago lol
@MostHeavenly_Cloudz it was a premiere and you could access this comments section in the waiting time
Good video, but three quick corrections:
-Luther never used the snow covered dung analogy. We actually cant find that anywhere in his writings.
-Lutherans generally accept, per the Smalcald articles, that unrepentant sin is mortal sin. So one can actually lose their salvation by living in unrepentant sin.
-Im not sure that Lutherans would say that nobody is not predestined. They'd generally rather say that God does not predestine people to hell.
Other than that, good video!
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Thanks for making these videos about explaning denominations. It has made me love even more my religion!
Thanks for this man
It's so easy to lose sight of why I became Lutheran a few years ago in all the church politics and culture wars, and this video felt like a cool drink after working in the sun all day - incredibly refreshing.
Also, can confirm that I'm an Anglican appreciator lol, I adore Anglican liturgy and the Book of Common Prayer
As a LCMS Lutheran this was an excellent explanation of Lutheranism. I especially appreciated you ending the video with a might fortress is our God an excellent hymn.
Question. How would you feel about the LCMS adopting a few aspects from anglicanism? By the way, I'm LCMS.
@@legacyandlegend I'm LCMS too and really don't know what the anglicans believe so I can'a answer.
@kze24 Well, that's a tough question to answer. Anglicans can be very diverse. However, I was talking about having episcopal polity instead of congregational polity, and anglicans believe there are 7 sacraments just like roman Catholics. The only difference is that they differentiate them. Baptism and the eucharist are called sacraments of the gospel, and the other 5, confession and absolution, included called penance, are called sacraments of the church. I think these would benefit the LCMS. It goes more in line with the early church, and they have biblical support. Thoughts?
@@legacyandlegend I'm no expert but on the issue of church government, but episcopal polity seems like a good way to ensure that the pastor is properly certified, but congregational polity is a good way to make sure that the pastor is a good fit for that congregation. I've only ever been in churches with congregational polity, so I don't know.
As for the sacraments, it really comes down to your definition of the word sacrament. Marriage, ordination, absolution, confirmation, and the anointing of the sick are all good things, but it's important to recognize that those were either not instituted by God, don't save, or both. We also have to make clear that salvation is by faith alone, not by doing things like getting married, ordained, confirmed, or anointed. As for penance itself, I think Martin Luther said that baptism is like penance, except that it lasts for one's whole life (unless one rejects God obviously).
@kze24 Those are very fair points. As for sacraments, I think it's important to understand that the bible never gives us a definition for them. If we go by Luther's definition, it would mean baptism and eucharist are the only two. If we go by Melanchthon's definition, it would mean baptism, eucharist, and penance are the only three. If we go by what the apostles taught in the early church and consider rites that convey grace to be sacraments, then all 7 would be sacraments. Marriage, orders, confirmation, and anointing of the sick all convey grace and are biblical. As for faith alone, anglicans would affirm faith alone salvation. They just believe that God gave us all 7 sacraments as a means of grace. They would only consider baptism and eucharist as generally necessary for salvation. The other 5 would be considered sacraments. They're just not on the same level as baptism and eucharist.
I have n very been to high church. And this is kinda convinced me to check Lutheranism out and Dr Cooper. Wow. Good video zoomer, I hope to make videos soon too brother, may the Lord keep using you! 🙏
As a LCMS Lutheran I can say that this was a very accurate description of us. We prefer to be called reformers than protestants because we don't hate the RCC we just want to practice pure Catholicism that does not have purgatory and indulgences. We didn't even remove the 7 deuterocannonical books we just put them in the back of the Bible, we still use them in our lectionaries. We do simp for EO and have Icons in our Narthex, libraries and chapels. We do appeal to church history, tradition and mystery more than most Protestant's. Our pastors wear clerical collars and vestments like priests. We have crucifixes and crosses. I also grew up WELS and they are STRICT. We are to Catholic for most protestants and to protestant for most Catholics. We have one sided love for the Orthodox. Baptist's bash things Catholic's believe like infant baptism, Transubstantiation/real presence and salvific nature of these sacraments but fail to realize that Lutheran's and many other Non catholics believe these too and dealing with them reveals how removed they are from what most Christians believe and have believed for thousands of years but they so aggressive in their denial of these things that it is genuinely annoying. To my baptist/non-denom brothers and sisters please stop assuming that everything you disagree with is Catholic...
I’m thinking about joining the Lcms. Do you guys ask the saints for intercession? Btw your last sentence is spot on. I love my mother but she’s basically oneness Pentecostal and thinks if the pastor is wearing robes it’s automatically a Catholic Church.
@@ravenvane2227 That its "Demonic" 🤦♂
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@@ravenvane2227 We do not ask for the intercession of saints. This is not because it is clearly wrong, but because there is not enough good reason to do so. The saints are truly alive and we believe in the communion of saints. But, I'd rather pray in the name of Jesus who promises that I can pray through him to the Father, than pray to a saint who may or may not pray for me. Why would I ask St. Anthony to help me find my car keys, when I can literally ask God himself to help me find my car keys. I know God hears me, I don't know St. Anthony hears me. It's not certain, and its not worth the risk.
@@redknight8212 This is a great answer, the way my church and most other Lutherans explained it is that communion of saints as described In book of revelation seems to certainly imply saints in both worship and pray to God in heaven. Although they pray, and probably even pray for us there is no evidence that they directly here our request for prayer. Most Lutherans are agnostic in the issue. I do believe the saints are alive in Christ and that there are a few scriptures that suggest it is in theory possible to ask for their prayers but I lean against it because it's unclear. I don't think it is a sin however, I do think it could become sin when people rely on the prayers of the saints more than praying directly to God. Sometimes when I pray I end it with 'hear my prayers and all the prayers of your saints in Jesus precious name Amen " I treat my prayer as part of the concert of prayer being said by all Christians in heaven and on earth.
@@ravenvane2227 You should man, it's really good. A lot of deep but also accessible theology.
“He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.”
Mark 16:16
Believing comes before baptism. And notice it brings up believing twice and not baptism twice.
Romans 10:9
@@paigekyllonen6613 no
@@paigekyllonen6613 Jesus baptizes with the Holy Spirit.
The same God that gives baptism as a gift also gives the faith that confesses Jesus. Quite understandable.
I'm very thankful you made this video. I love the Lutheran church. It's a shame I don't have any in my denomination near me, but I'm still Lutheran in my heart.
Important to note that for Lutherans, the writings of Philip Melanchthon and Martin Chemnitz are as authoritative as those of Luther. They co-wrote The Book of Concord, the main confessional text.
thanks for all these videos I love your content I became a presbyterian because of you GOD bless you
Do Anglicans next, we’ve been waiting patiently. Especially being a brand new Anglican
The next one will be Calvinist/Reformed it is already scheduled.
@@pedroguimaraes6094 I thought he wouldn’t do that one because it’s what he is and he’s already articulated a lot of it
@@SethStewart-j3i True, but i think it is good thing that all major Christian traditions will be covered.
Lifelong Lutheran here - you’ve represented us well. Nicely done!
I like to think the fact that I didn't even flinch at the snow-covered poop analogy shows that I've done a decent job of studying Luther.
I think theologically I agree the most with the Lutheran views, even though I go to a Baptist church regularly and an "old time gospel" southern non-denom Bible church when I visit home. I'm interested in attending one of the historical Lutheran churches in my hometown I found on your map, but I've gotten pretty close to my congregation. It would feel dirty I guess 😂
Go for it, but I would advise that you check ahead of time whether the particular Lutheran church you're interested in attending practices open or closed communion.
LCMS layman here. Very fair and accurate. Thank you for producing this video!
LUTHERANS, RISE UP!!
Very well done, love the Bach music touch. LCMS is high on my list of a possible denomination to switch to.
My denomination❤
Kinda surprised there wasn't anything here about Theology of Vocation. It's a very Lutheran idea that I haven't seen anywhere else.
without the sauce (sacraments and mystery) a man is lost, but that same man can be lost in the sauce.
Wow. This comment goes deeper than you’d think. I think “Getting lost in the sauce” is what worries me about Catholic tradition, if anything. Can’t see the forest for the trees - can’t see Jesus Christ through the gaudy architecture, murals, and thousands of years of denominational culture.
That said, I’ve dramatically softened towards liturgy and spiritual imagery. I’ve mostly matured past the “get that framed Mary picture off your wall!” phase.
@@TomBombadil515 you get it exactly!
As for getting lost in the sauce, Lutherans believe that the sacraments are effectual not in and of themselves, but only as they are received through faith.
I'm so excited for this video 🙏🏻 thank you for being such a refreshing channel with Christian youtube!
Ah, Finally the best Christian Denomination, looking forward to this!
I think you mean Roman Catholicism the only Denomination
@@PrayTheJesusPrayer no not the Papist nonsense
Orthodoxy*
He might do Anglicanism next, but no, not this video
As a Catholic, nice pfp.
It is crazy how many different ideals there are to differentiate denominations. People have really studied every angle of the word. It's amazing.
As a WELS Lutheran in the deep south of the US, we, even as standard tradition say, "Please,rise(stand) for the Gospel reading". We have a big out reach to Nepal and Vietnam. We are directly traced from Germany. But most ask about our whole predestination dilemma , and how it doesn't make sense, I always say what makes sense to humans may not for God. Though I guess it isn't super valid. We are most concentrated in the Midwest, and I advise you to check out Martin Luther College in Minnesota. Hope this helps. Thank you for including A Mighty Fortress Is Our God
Wisconsin Lutheran in the Deep South? Lol, I bet you feel out of place. I’m probably going to join the Lcms. My theology is honestly closer to Methodist but their conservative churches seem few and far between.
Very good teaching. As much as I love Lutheranism, there should be more teaching about the early church history. Great video!
Lutheran here. Well done, sir!
Although I’ve leaned more toward Agnostic, I was raised in the Lutheran faith and appreciate the values I was taught. I will always remember the church I went to when I was young and will never forget my pastor, a great man and friend to everyone in his congregation. Love and miss you Pastor Pieper. ❤️
It is not true that Lutherans believe that faith is not a requirement for communion. In Luther's small catechism, he writes "whoever believes these words 'given for the forgiveness of sins'" is worthy to take communion.
I agree. I was confirmed Lutheran we could not partake in the Lord's Supper until we were confirmed essentially taking 2 years of classes to understand why we were baptized as infants.
@@vitamc1213 What he was saying is that Jesus's true body and blood are objectively received by anyone who receives the sacrament, whether or not they have faith. This is a different view from the reformed tradition, which believes that Jesus's body and blood are made spiritually present only for those who receive by faith -- meaning that in the reformed view those without faith only receive bread and wine but not Jesus's body and blood.
In the Lutheran understanding of the sacrament, both believers and unbelievers receive Jesus's true body and blood, but the believer receives it to their benefit and the unbeliever to their damnation.
Ah yes my favourite protestants.
Fair and balanced presentation. RZ at his best.
My boyfriend and I come from a long line of Lutherans (he's Norwegian + I'm Finn), and we love our 125 year old ECLA church. It's Christ and Gospel centered. The liturgy is beautiful, traditional, and warms our hearts. It's full of love and friendliness. I've explored many denominations, but Lutherans are the most Christ and Gospel centered aside from being the warmest and most loving people (who also LOVE to discuss theology). I never felt as connected to the MASSIVE very modern Non-Denominational church I grew up in, it was nice but the Christian rock music doesn't compare to the beauty, piety, and feeling of true worship when we sing our hymns - I feel like I'm praying to the Lord when I sing versus just listening to music. The sermons of our Lutheran pastor are so joyful, engaging, and full of understandable wisdom, I feel more connected to and focused on them than any services I've heard before.
Yeah, I won't lie, you've got us dead to rights on our relationship with Orthobros.
He nailed our relationship with the Calvinists, too. I can't speak for all Lutherans, but I'd respect them more if they'd ever answer any of my theological questions where we disagree, but, I think they know that if they examined the answers too closely, they'd become Lutheran lol.
@@carlh7714 Very unlikely.
@@carlh7714 Pray for them, they believe they were predestined to be wrong.
@@carlh7714 The difference is that Calvinists take their ideas to its logical conclusions.
@@TheNabOwnzz Which part? The getting answers part (my personal experience is in agreement, if so) or the becoming Lutheran part (my personal experience is 0 on that front, because they'll never answer my questions on the subjects that separate Lutherans and Calvinists).
Sounds very solid. God bless y‘all
If I wasn't Orthodox I would probably be Lutheran, or maybe Anglican. Lutheranism is the best Protestant denomination IMO
Too bad it’s all heretical according to your “Church”
Bach might as well be Mormon according to them
@@redeemedzoomer6053 "church" in quotes?
@@redeemedzoomer6053 it’s not all heretical, there is truth in Protestantism. It seems you listen too much to the Orthobros.
@@redeemedzoomer6053 can I not show admiration for Protestants?
If I wasn't Lutheran I'd probably Orthodox or maybe Anglican. I think my biggest struggle would be adjusting to the liturgy. As beautiful as the Orthodox liturgy is, I really do feel at home in the western rite.
Even before you later mentioned the encounter between Luther and the Ethiopian deacon, I noticed an important miaphysite topic when you talked about the "communication of attributes" in the Eucharist. Very good video!
LCMS all the way! The OG evangelicals! Blessed to be Lutheran.
Excellent explanation! May God bless you. (Lutheran Church Canada member here)
beautifully said. im lutheran, and i approve this message :)
I went to a Lutheran church for over a year, it was one of the best churches, and the focus on christ was always there.
Why did you leave?
@@legacyandlegend it meant I had to pledge and become a full member, and not be involved at any other church. At the time I have a pastor at another church mentoring me.
Yessss, finally this is here! As of recently I go to two churches; Church of Christ (Baptist) and also a Lutheran church.
Two conflicting churches: one says baptism saves, the other says no; one says the Eucharist is the real body and blood of Jesus, the other denies it. What do you believe about sacraments?
I did that for a bit. The Church of Christ guys wouldn't answer my questions about what they believed Communion was, though, which irritated me. I'm now firmly Lutheran because they know and say what they believe and challenge opponents to disprove anything they teach by using Scripture while politely offering to show anyone who comes to learn where in Scripture they derive their teachings from. It's the most honest and straight-forward denomination I've encountered.
@@christian-q3v The sacraments are known across all Protestant denominations: baptism and the communion.
Yes, the Church of Christ has the Baptist view by believing that bread and wine is just bread and wine but we symbolically receive the body and blood. But at least Lutherans have the bread AND wine. I was originally raised Catholic and didn't like how they only have the bread.
I love your videos, and funnily enough... this will be released on my birthday! I'd like to think that was intentional 😂❤️✝️
HAPPY BDAY GOD BLESS YOU AMEN AND HALLELUJAH 🔥🙏✝️❤️
@@mezke.official Thanks man, you rock! God bless ❤️✝️
Live, Laugh, Lutheran ❤
Really outstanding as they all are. Please keep these coming. 🙏
Hey Zoomer how about a rainbow reconquista? Taking back the rainbow and making it a christian symbol again
Can it not be for both?
Also Christmas reconquista to defeat great usurpator Claus
@@liquidtompls5666 Because the church can never appear to be affirming homosexuality, so it needs to be taken from them. Manipulate them into rejecting the symbol
@@liquidtompls5666for both what
I am a proudest Lutheran member from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬.
LCMS just makes the most sense
Indeed. None of the liberal junk of the ELCA.
Great video. Fantastic breakdown of the differences in the Sacrament
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Only LCMS know what's meant by this smirk.
From PNG 🇵🇬 and love the explanation. I'm a Lutheran and one time i went to a mart to buy some food and the lady at the counter saw my necklace and she just said oh your necklace is shining on your neck and its beautiful and i didn't know what to say but I thank her for the speech ❤❤
Banger vid, greeting from Dutch Reformed
As a lutheran I was really looking forward to this one. Very on point, felt like home =D
Ah yes, the correct one
based
Great video. The venn diagram of the denominations stance on predestination was very helpful. Thank you
I love the Lutheran church so much
LCMS Lutheran here:
Universalists don’t claim that people don’t go to hell, they simply don’t believe in hell as eternal conscious torment and that all will eventually be restored unto God.
Perhaps Unitarian Universalists would hold to the belief of no literal hell, but they’re not creedal Christians and therefore have no credibility on any theological matter.
That said, great video!
Excellent video, God bless.
I was baptized Lutheran in 1962 and confirmed in 1976. This video makes me proud. I’m politically conservative, but content in the ELCA.
Fantastic video!
RZ really shows Lutheranism in the best light possible here.
I (Eastern Orthodox) kinda simp for Lutherans xd
Normally, it's the exact opposite. Lutherans simp after the Orthodox because they're not papists but the Orthodox don't care for the Lutherans because they're not part of the "one true church"
You gave us a really fair shake. Thank you! The only issue I have is that technically our Communion view is one of spiritual and not physical presence. Dr. Jordan Cooper is quite clear to say this and I believe he cites Martin Chemnitz for this but I could be remembering the wrong Lutheran scholastic.
Vår Gud är oss en väldig borg!
From a faithful Lutheran from Sweden ( not part of the state-church 🤮)
Not state church but still Lutheran?
Missionsprovinsen?
Very incredibly pleasantly surprised by your video here.
RZ really sounds like he is ready to shift to Lutheranism here 😂
He has talked about how he almost did awhile ago, but wound up preferring Presbyterian theology.
Heard you were talking to Wolfmueller, when’s the podcast???
Women pastorship is not "moderate"...it is liberalism.
Having watched the video, this was awesome! I thought you did exactly what I wanted in this video, which was to give a good overview of the parallel perspectives on a lot the nuances between us, especially our perspective of "Distant vs Intimate."
Just a few additions, though you might have done way deeper research on our theology than I have, so there's the possibility I'm misinformed but;
We don't hold to God predestining everyone, we hold to God predestining all of those who will be saved, but we don't believe in the idea of him "passing over" people either. We wouldn't even say that he predestines everyone, just that there are no reprobate by God's sovereign will.
And this is a common one, while we DO believe that the Eucharist does operate with a communication of attributes to imbue the human body with divine attributes, we avoid any language that implies "being everywhere at once" and AFAIK, there's been an explicit clarification by our scholastics that it posses the ability to be in many places, but not necessarily everywhere at once. The relationship of our theologians to the question of how MUCH of the divine attribute is communicated varies, but typically I find that Lutherans try to avoid the ideas of "Infinity" and such that Reformed seem to use.
Also, on a subjective level, I personally think that Reformed is more Sola Gratia and Soli Deo Gloria and contrasts with Lutherans being more Sola Fide and Solus Christus personally. Especially with the Christo-centrism and universal appeal to clinging to faith in the cross being contrasted with Reformed view of complete sovereignty to the highest degree and the complete lack of any basic autonomy of the human, and that complete dependence on grace for all things, not just salvation, seems to be a higher point of emphasis with Reformed, though I think Lutherans speak of grace a lot too.
I could totally be wrong about the first two points If anyone wants to source to correct me, but as far as my knowledge and theology is concerned, that's all I had to add.
Awesome video and you really did the Lutherans great! Much love Christ and God bless.
8:19 bro offended us 💀
He a mainliner, they have a quota for jabs at Baptist per-video
we baptist bros must stick together
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WELS Lutheran here, I would love to hear about the Episcopal church. I visited the National Cathedral and heard some unfamiliar, inconsistant or even contradicting theology and works of art, such as a "billion year old space rock" on one side and creation depicted in stain glass on the other. Now i'm interested in whether this goes for the majority of the denominations or just a select few.
I don't understand why all protestants aren't Lutheran...
Because they walked away from what the early church was. The only other protestant denomination that can say they have roots in the early church are anglicans.
Great video. I had no idea about all these specifics to Lutheranism.