Dr Doom Discloses Disney's Desperation

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  • @lacolem1
    @lacolem1 5 місяців тому +424

    Doom is not Kang. Doom is not Tony.
    Doom is not a friggin backup plan!

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  5 місяців тому +95

      That right there hits the nail on the head. All of this feels like Doom is a backup plan, which means he won’t be fully fleshed out. He’ll be as meaningful as Venko in Ironman 2,

    • @dragonhero14
      @dragonhero14 5 місяців тому +39

      @@gregowen2022 What's even worse, is that I feel he'll be killed off. Continuing the trend of Marvel killing off it's most notable villains over and over again. Putting them in an even worse situation. Also has everyone forgotten that Red Skull is just traveling around space? Marvel seems to have forgotten that.

    • @nickpatterson6099
      @nickpatterson6099 5 місяців тому +3

      That you Vic?

    • @lordcaprisunthe2nd
      @lordcaprisunthe2nd 5 місяців тому +15

      @@dragonhero14I wouldn’t be surprised if they bring back Thanos and kill him again in the same movie

    • @MsDavid47
      @MsDavid47 5 місяців тому

      Ahh simple minded consumer, I really wish I could think like you, dumb, naïve and stupidly happy.

  • @cormoran2303
    @cormoran2303 5 місяців тому +351

    The reveal is so dumb.
    It's like getting Hugh Jackman for Deadpool and Wolverine, but casting him as Magneto.

    • @Linklex7
      @Linklex7 5 місяців тому +26

      At this rate I’m pretty sure Chris Evan’s will be cast as MCU Magneto.

    • @benmansfield2066
      @benmansfield2066 5 місяців тому +5

      Brie Larson*

    • @Mr_Robotts
      @Mr_Robotts 5 місяців тому +20

      They already said they'd like a black man because he's Malcolm X according to people who ignore Stan Lee

    • @tomgu2285
      @tomgu2285 5 місяців тому +1

      I mean.... Yes and? How is it bad? You people make fuss about literally nothing jesus Christ.

    • @benmansfield2066
      @benmansfield2066 5 місяців тому +10

      @@tomgu2285 why are you here then?

  • @jointkay-y5i
    @jointkay-y5i 5 місяців тому +235

    V for vendetta❌️
    D for destroyed franchises ✅️

    • @gunjchowwiwat8357
      @gunjchowwiwat8357 5 місяців тому +9

      Remember Remember the 5th of December 😂

    • @DFMoray
      @DFMoray 5 місяців тому +4

      Every time I see the word “franchise” I hear “French fries”

    • @S_raB
      @S_raB 5 місяців тому +2

      I see what you did there. 😏

  • @BurnWorldProductions
    @BurnWorldProductions 5 місяців тому +108

    I won't lie. I wanted to see Dr. Doom for a while, but after Endgame my mood is just pure apathy. I consider my wife to be a "normie" consumer and she won't even sit through new marvel movies when they're free.

    • @ArcaneZippity
      @ArcaneZippity 5 місяців тому +3

      Dr. Doom is one of the most well-made and loved villains from the Marvel comics... And although Disney talks a great game about righting the ship, and so on... Can the company itself keep from meddling with its creation, and overriding the directors/writers/producers decisions with more of the same crap that has pretty much ruined the MCU up to this point? Unless they are gutting the division of Disney of all its bloat and bad DEI hiring practices, how can they really be correcting their course? Deadpool & Wolverine was entertaining, but it's story was devoid of substance... It was a flashing one off filled with memberberries, fun quips, and fun duo dynamics... But it's actual plot was barely there... The fireworks show was fun to watch, but cerebrally bankrupt... If the next movies can't visually entertain while also having a great story with great dialogue, it will never grab hold of that original formula and be anywhere as good...
      The reason most folks feel this is just desperate grasping at straws, is that they've already made it very difficult to bring back the original dynamic of the Avengers team, since the big hitters are either dead or retired or ruined by Disney+ trash... They could use the TVA and/or the multi-verse to bring back characters in their original forms, but honestly the TVA and Multi-Verse are just lazy writing excuses when it comes to film... They worked in the comics, because of how and why they were used... Disney is using them far too often, and for their original intended use... The TVA and Multi-Verse use reduces the gravity of outcomes, makes the stakes less important, sends a message that nothing is permanent, so therefore nothing is important... If nothing is important, then why should we as fans/watchers/audience care about the show/film? This is something Disney has completely failed to grasp... It goes beyond the deconstructionism that has infected Hollywood in general...

    • @DemonicRemption
      @DemonicRemption 5 місяців тому +1

      @BurnWorldProductions
      That's how you know things have gotten bad for the MCU when normies like your wife are bowing out of this. And Iger and Fiegie are too stupid to get why they're failing.

  • @jointkay-y5i
    @jointkay-y5i 5 місяців тому +360

    This changes nothing. Marvel's problem is in their writing and politics not actors or directors. RDJ and the Russo brothers are not even a drop in the bucket.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  5 місяців тому +80

      That’s my fear as well. These are all talented people, but looking at what they have to work with doesn’t inspire confidence

    • @arbhall7572
      @arbhall7572 5 місяців тому +22

      @@gregowen2022 2024 Disney and Hollywood make a movie about a white guy, alone, beating the snot out of their carefully curated and built up boss babes from the last 5 years?
      The boss babes who have never once, experienced a challenge of any kind? Whos character arcs started with them being awesome and then they just got more awesome?
      Those! characters are all gonna get pimp slapped, hard enough to justify them limping back onto the scene for the opening of the next movie?
      Really?
      I do not see that. I see them using the Doom bots to humiliate RDJ in particular in dozens and dozens of ways. He will never be a proper threat like Thanos, actually laying the smack down. Nope. Worst we will see is like....Doom will buy his way onto a leadership role of the Avengers and then fire the girls. We wont see Akoye getting back handed, or Captain Marvel being neutralized, or Valkryie getting stabbed with her own sword. Nope. None of the women will have anything harder than a shove.

    • @tomgu2285
      @tomgu2285 5 місяців тому

      What politics?

    • @chuckdude514
      @chuckdude514 5 місяців тому +6

      ​@@tomgu2285 Larry Fink already explained it. Go look it up.

    • @avrivah1101
      @avrivah1101 5 місяців тому

      @@tomgu2285 You're kidding, right?
      ua-cam.com/video/23M_V_pe1GU/v-deo.html

  • @KoongYe
    @KoongYe 5 місяців тому +138

    I think alot of Marvel's strength was how the actors were so tied to their respective characters. Like Thor-Chris Hemsworth, Captain America - another Chris, Ironman -RDJ. With this, I guess Marvel is throwing that away for... a quick buzz. As much as I thought Endgame wasn't as good as people make it out to be, I think alot of the good will came from the fact that people thought they will never get to see RDJ again. Death is meaningless in this universe and thus there's no stakes no tension no fun.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  5 місяців тому +38

      100%. The multiverse is being abused to erase all stakes and meaning. We can bring back anyone. We can recast anyone. None of these storylines fell impactful in any way now, and it’s sad

    • @mina86
      @mina86 5 місяців тому +11

      I’ve always been of the opinion that Endgame is mid and MCU phase three should have stop at Infinity War.

    • @skaidonC
      @skaidonC 5 місяців тому

      @gregowen2022 @@mina86 100%
      As far as I'm concerned, everything post Infinity War is non-canon, because it breaks the internal logic of the universe, specifically - Causality, the no.1 rule when writing time-travel stories.
      Want to see stories that do this concept RIGHT? -
      "Anathem" by Neil Stephenson
      "The Licanius Trilogy" by James Islington.
      Seriously, the ending of Infinity War sets up 2 things PERFECTLY:
      1 - the stakes get WAAAY higher, which makes the story more complex and mature, perfect as the main audience of the MCU was entering adulthood at about that time. Instead, they "reset" and try and chase a new, younger audience....abandoning their existing audience in the process.
      2 - The start phase 4 with a slate wiped (mostly) clean of the old roster of characters, enabling them to start bringing in new characters (mentored by the remaining old ones) in a NATURAL way, instead of the very forced way they went with.

    • @alexanderchristopher6237
      @alexanderchristopher6237 5 місяців тому +6

      Lots of actors have been saying this: they’re no longer actors, but rather characters. People are more interested in characters and not star power anymore. That’s the shift that’s been happening.
      But I dunno. Maybe that’s not true or I’m misinterpreting their statements. With Disney at least, they seem to believe more in actor than character. Irons can’t be playing Kang due to sexual allegations, Kang got scrapped. Gina Carrano speaks some no-no, her character in the Mandalorian was gone. Black Panther can’t be male for the sequel because Chadwick Boseman passed away.

    • @tomgu2285
      @tomgu2285 5 місяців тому +1

      Buddy the 616 iron man is dead. He will not return. RDJ plays a completly different character from a different universe!

  • @dakota_kramer
    @dakota_kramer 5 місяців тому +91

    The alliteration is strong with this one.

    • @orangecitrus8056
      @orangecitrus8056 5 місяців тому +5

      "Somehow Iron Man returned"
      hey hey, we just need to wait a few years for the true funny content:
      "Somehow Thanos returned"

    • @treasurehunter3369
      @treasurehunter3369 5 місяців тому +2

      Disneys DowneyJr doctor doom

  • @Lostincircles4alltosee
    @Lostincircles4alltosee 5 місяців тому +91

    The poop jokes 🤣. Also the D monologue was duplicity delicious.

    • @Lostincircles4alltosee
      @Lostincircles4alltosee 5 місяців тому +3

      I also just realized the video title words also start with D

    • @dougbell4003
      @dougbell4003 5 місяців тому +1

      I thought it was a D Diatribe

  • @bjaurelio
    @bjaurelio 5 місяців тому +53

    It reels of desperation to me. I did hear a theory that there's a story line where Dr. Doom is Stark who was brought back to life. Maybe they are using that to justify his return. If they go that route, it completely diminishes Endgame.

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral 5 місяців тому +9

      If Lucasfilm can devalue Anakin's sacrifice, Marvel saw that and thinks, "hang on there, let us one up you!"

    • @Jza-GZa40k
      @Jza-GZa40k 5 місяців тому +2

      And also where tf did Thanos go lol and what was the point in the MCU…

  • @johnmoore6440
    @johnmoore6440 5 місяців тому +69

    A Greg video to start the day? That’s always a win.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  5 місяців тому +11

      A win for us both! I’m glad you’re here

  • @no.1spidey-fan182
    @no.1spidey-fan182 5 місяців тому +25

    6:40 That Aliteration Sillioquy has more THOUGHT and PASSION put into it than 90% of Disney's last 10 projects😭

    • @keziaburrows3554
      @keziaburrows3554 5 місяців тому +3

      Fr I literally clapped it was so good 😂

  • @BingBangPoe
    @BingBangPoe 5 місяців тому +24

    They'll probably make Dr. Doom an alternate, evil version of Tony Stark (which has happened in the comics). I think Disney is just desperate at this point. It's unfortunate because I really wanted an actual adaptation of Victor von Doom that doesn't suck.

  • @rmglover3191
    @rmglover3191 5 місяців тому +28

    growing up i saw writers take "okay" or even crap storylines and retcon them into passable fare. John Byrne brought back Jean Grey, and Ed Brubaker brought back Bucky Barnes. An excellent writer can fix this mess. the problem is that management is bereft of creativity.

    • @alexanderpabon2933
      @alexanderpabon2933 5 місяців тому +1

      Agreed. However, Stephen McFreely has only two years to write both screenplays, and I doubt he can fix much of the MCU in so little time. McFreely had a solid basis and a whole movie last time to fix characters like Iron Man. But, this time, he has nothing to work off of and no dictation over character development. He's stuck with what he's given, which is not good at all. Maybe McFreely can pull off a Hail Mary-he is a talented writer-but we'll have to see.

    • @bIametheniIe
      @bIametheniIe 4 місяці тому +1

      That was Chris Claremont who turned Jean Grey (formally known as Marvel Girl) into having the powerful Phoenix force in 1976 before John Byrne even worked at Marvel. John Byrne was hired in 1977 and was tasked with being the artist for "The UnCanny X-Men." The "Dark Phoenix Saga" story line started being plotted in 1976 with monthly releases of "The Uncanny X-Men" comic and it eventually came to a head in 1980 and end in 1981. John Byrne helped with some plot elements, but the writing was mostly Chris Claremont and Byrne did the art.
      Comics typically have a lot longer time to plot out story lines with the bonuses of monthly releases setting up and establishing the story to the audience. The MCU doesn't have this luxury and it'd be hard for any good writer for film to fix this mess within a two years tops before production/principal photography. The MCU hasn't established who any of the new Avengers will be, let alone an overall story line other than something multiverse blah blah blah. They probably move on from the Avengers and try to establish The Fantastic Four and X-Men.

    • @rmglover3191
      @rmglover3191 4 місяці тому

      @@bIametheniIe how could i slight the IMCOMPARABLE Chris Claremont whose stories proved to be a constant companion in my only childhoodedness?! Yes, I believe i saw a Claremont interview on a sci fi channel where he talked about the saga. Claremont's writing was an absolute gift.

  • @haitmalard3450
    @haitmalard3450 5 місяців тому +14

    Dude, that deluge of D-words definitely did dominate the discourse of the day. Fuck, that's hard to do 😆 great video!

  • @Pennywise12528
    @Pennywise12528 15 днів тому +1

    Imagine adapting Doctor Doom in a way that will not only show his face, but will require it to be shown more than his mask to get your "Investment" back.

  • @jonathananderson5990
    @jonathananderson5990 5 місяців тому +9

    Not my fiancee and I sitting here during your mid-video rant, like: "LET'S GOOOO, ALLITERATION!!" She was literally clapping. Then going back and seeing the video caption! And then the thumbnail!! Now THAT is sticking to a theme. This is just another reminder that Mr. Owen is top tier.

  • @jacklawsen6390
    @jacklawsen6390 5 місяців тому +7

    I don't see how this is a good idea. If he's not a Stark variant, why does he have his face? If his face is obscured, why's he there? If an actor's known as a beloved hero, why make him an evil villain, except for some Jake Skywalker-level deconstruction?

  • @mallorycarpinski1160
    @mallorycarpinski1160 5 місяців тому +5

    RDJ saying "different mask, same task" sounds like a subtle (or not so subtle) shade for "carrying this whole franchise AGAIN" like he even sounded bored and exasperated when he said it. I wonder how much they are paying him. I really don't blame him either.

    • @iprobablyforgotsomething
      @iprobablyforgotsomething 5 місяців тому

      I noticed that, too. He didn't sound thrilled and like he was truly endorsing the "diferent mask same task" plan but more like he's contractually obligated to sound positive about his job duties. It's like when you read book cover review quotes that say "a very different kind of story -- author this" and "it's really something -- author that" and "like nothing I've ever read before -- author the-other" and notice that not one of them actually says anything in unambiguous praise for the novel's story or writing skill itself.
      .
      I wonder if he actually signed onto the movie itself or if he was already contracted for a specific number of films to the studio, and so now here's just the next one in line for him.

  • @MiraiKishi
    @MiraiKishi 5 місяців тому +15

    6:34 Holy Alliteration, Batman!

  • @Latriise
    @Latriise 5 місяців тому +19

    @6:34 The most epic alliteration I've ever encountered. Well done sir.

  • @billsprestonesq.226
    @billsprestonesq.226 5 місяців тому +28

    I thought the early MCU films didn't have a plan, and the Infinity Stones were inserted as a one-off.
    Either way, RDJ is Iron Man and you can't just recast him into a big role like this. For an animated series or a video game, sure, but not a live action film or series. And wtf was that suit he was wearing? Did someone run out to Spirit Halloween to dress him?

    • @tomgu2285
      @tomgu2285 5 місяців тому +2

      RDJ is a actor and he can play whoever he wants to. He is not iron man he is RDJ an actor.

    • @chriscollins2095
      @chriscollins2095 5 місяців тому +1

      Disney might be making Dr. Doom an evil multiverse version of Tony Stark. I hope they're not. And yeah, I hope that's not what they're going to dress Dr. Doom in. Looks more like something RDJ would wear on St. Patrick's Day.

    • @DuneStone6816
      @DuneStone6816 5 місяців тому +4

      I haven't looked this up recently, but I'm pretty sure Phase 1 was only building up to The Avengers. At some point after the success of The Avengers, they decided they were going to work towards Infinity War. The Thanos tease after the credits was just an arbitrary sequel hook, not an indication of any long-term plan.

    • @Shockguey
      @Shockguey 5 місяців тому +1

      The infinity stones weren't introduced until Phase 2.
      The tesseract had no hint that it held a stone.

  • @dangerousrobot9692
    @dangerousrobot9692 5 місяців тому +6

    Look forward to that long Acolyte video. Personally love long form content and would love to some from my favorite Dadtuber.

  • @Atom.Storm.
    @Atom.Storm. 5 місяців тому +43

    I will not hear a single word against Ow My Balls

  • @Jemmer75
    @Jemmer75 5 місяців тому +3

    I regret that I have but ONE like to give for that most amazing alliteration on the letter D and STILL delivering exactly the message you intended. All punctuated by a modest (but not-so-secretly self-satisfied) sip of tea. Well done, good sir. Well done!

  • @matityaloran9157
    @matityaloran9157 5 місяців тому +12

    12:18, Spider-Man (2002), Batman Begins the first X-Men movie and even the first Iron Man movie all worked as films even if you hadn’t previously seen another superhero movie at any point in your life. Their greatness spawned their sequels. I know they had plans for sequels but they didn’t rely upon major movie franchises.

  • @randyduff4758
    @randyduff4758 5 місяців тому +46

    I feel like my wife just cheated on me and we broke up. Now she is telling me what I want to hear so we get back together. I also see how she is treating her cousin ( The Acolyte). I don’t trust her. I might have relations( See the movies) but I’m not emotionally invested ( not giving them money). I hope this makes sense. It’s over Disney. I gave you money and I didn’t like what you did with it.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  5 місяців тому +19

      Yep, I think a lot of the audience wants a clean break and none of this constant getting back together for one night every now and again “for closure”

    • @LazyReaderKanon
      @LazyReaderKanon 5 місяців тому +4

      Dang. That’s exactly how it feels. Deadpool and wolverine can be considered one of those relations. It felt like we were back together again. Like those happy days. But listening to the online discourse and watching that announcement brought me back to reality.

    • @Jza-GZa40k
      @Jza-GZa40k 5 місяців тому +3

      @@LazyReaderKanon You just have to see it as a Fox entity not Disney at this point,And disregard any influence from Disney as it’s not their movie essentially…Whatever Disney does now is black listed personally.

    • @jonw7937
      @jonw7937 5 місяців тому +6

      Yep, they're just jangling keys. Stay strong, don't go back for that booty call. The line up of current Avengers they've been teeing up is a total dumpster fire that you couldn't pay me to watch.

    • @majorgear1021
      @majorgear1021 5 місяців тому +2

      @@jonw7937Well said!

  • @TheAlphaLegionnaire
    @TheAlphaLegionnaire 5 місяців тому +49

    I’ve wanted Doom for so long, and this truly has me worried.
    I really hope Doom isn’t full of quippy one liners.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  5 місяців тому +18

      Agreed. He seems like such a great character to explore the morality of being a hero the way they did with Civil War. Fingers crossed he’s not a goofball

    • @billsprestonesq.226
      @billsprestonesq.226 5 місяців тому +9

      @@gregowen2022 Magneto is similar and the first X-Men film did it well -- he believed he was the hero and was dead serious about everything, leaving the quips to the X-Men.
      I have no confidence in Disney to pull this off, especially with RDJ. He could've been a great Doom 20 years ago, but he was cast as Iron Man.

    • @natesamadhi33
      @natesamadhi33 5 місяців тому +4

      Bet $100 they're gonna have a gag with him standing in line at a sharawna shop

    • @nicholauscrawford7903
      @nicholauscrawford7903 5 місяців тому +3

      If they're going to use RDJ for this, they had better take full advantage of the fact that he actually has range as an actor.

    • @vicdansanch
      @vicdansanch 7 днів тому

      Lmao hes gonna be ultron , a serious evil villain turned into a jokester

  • @S_raB
    @S_raB 5 місяців тому +9

    When the foundation is corrupt, there's literally no way to construct a solid building. MCU is currently built on sand and the storm is yet to arrive.

    • @majorgear1021
      @majorgear1021 5 місяців тому +1

      Gina Carano is starting a Sue-nami , though!

  • @teenybopper598
    @teenybopper598 5 місяців тому +10

    I really like your editing style, especially the Brooklyn 99 edits! We are about the same age so your comedy hits just right. Glad I found you thru the Echo Chamberlain live stream!

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  5 місяців тому +3

      I’m glad you did, too! We Peacock comedy fans have to stick together and keep the Brooklyn 99, Office, Parks and Rec, and Superstore vibes alive

    • @teenybopper598
      @teenybopper598 5 місяців тому

      @@gregowen2022 this is very true, however I bought Parks n Rec and Brooklyn 99 in physical form cause Peacock grinded my gears with how their ad/as free plans worked. Plus the bonus content is always nice!

  • @josiahswanson1
    @josiahswanson1 5 місяців тому +15

    Alliteration always accomplishes attention from.. me 😂

  • @MaximumNerd-bg9ho
    @MaximumNerd-bg9ho 5 місяців тому +9

    I’m morbidly curious about to see how Robert Downey Jr will do as Doctor Doom.

  • @AKATenn
    @AKATenn 5 місяців тому +23

    it wouldn't matter who they brought in as an actor, disney is disney...
    if they announced they were firing all their writers, directors, and CEO's, and were hiring people who actually represent the 90+% of society, I might be interested... they can keep the same actors, or not.

    • @Shockguey
      @Shockguey 5 місяців тому +1

      A lot of people seem to be making "I hate Disney" into their personality.

    • @Entreped
      @Entreped 5 місяців тому +8

      @@Shockguey Nah, we just hate Disney. Simple as that. They aren't in the business of telling good stories anymore. They are in the activism game and people are sick and tired of playing.

    • @AKATenn
      @AKATenn 5 місяців тому +6

      @@Shockguey I don't hate disney, I dislike the people who are currently running disney. I don't wish anything bad to happen to them, and the people I want fired are all rich enough to not really lose anything other than power, so its not really a bad thing if they get fired, unlike all the people they want to fire replace with AI, and people who's skin color or gender matters more than writing skills.

    • @Shockguey
      @Shockguey 5 місяців тому

      @@Entreped "we just hate Disney"
      You're proving me right.

    • @Shockguey
      @Shockguey 5 місяців тому

      @@AKATenn If you don't hate Disney it's not directed at you. For some reason people would prefer that the legacy of Disney burn instead of return to its' former glory.
      Very UnAmarican.

  • @RamseyDewey
    @RamseyDewey 5 місяців тому +1

    That was a James Joyce level alliterative monologue halfway through. Bravo!

  • @TheStuffEnjoyer
    @TheStuffEnjoyer 5 місяців тому +5

    Audience: How many "Ds" Do you want in your vid title.
    Greg Owen: Yes.

  • @_moegreen5770
    @_moegreen5770 5 місяців тому +42

    This only works if this is a variant of Tony Stark. How can they just think we’ll just look at RDJ and not think of Tony Stark after spending 10+ years with the character

    • @Shockguey
      @Shockguey 5 місяців тому +4

      It'll probably be a variant that lost the fight against Thanos.

    • @nyet-sp
      @nyet-sp 5 місяців тому +1

      here's big brain move. never show Dr.dooms face. or make it like deadpool where his face is really disfigured and you only get to see it occasionally.

    • @_moegreen5770
      @_moegreen5770 5 місяців тому

      @@nyet-sp they should’ve just held on to the reveal like they did with Chris Evans as Human Torch

    • @majorgear1021
      @majorgear1021 5 місяців тому +1

      It doesn’t work at all.

  • @saulmist9593
    @saulmist9593 5 місяців тому +1

    That beautiful display of daring discourse that dangled the delayed delivery of a delicious dirge of distaste for Disney is what earned my like and SUB, sir. Well-done. Lol

  • @613harbinger316
    @613harbinger316 5 місяців тому +2

    "Before The Marvels was pinched off in a theater near you.."
    Oh God, the image!!!

  • @tp5510
    @tp5510 5 місяців тому +4

    Some things just should end/leave no matter how great they are. Rdj should be done in mcu forever.

  • @aedelle1915
    @aedelle1915 5 місяців тому +2

    Take my like for that beautiful alliterative rant, you delightful, diligent and discerning deliverer of discourse!

  • @marqod1437
    @marqod1437 5 місяців тому +4

    The Disney film "Wish" has the *brightest underling* of a king team up with a *goat* and a *fallen star* to *overthrow* that king. Took someone else stating things more explicitly for me to get it, and now I cannot unsee it.

    • @phylocybe_
      @phylocybe_ 5 місяців тому +1

      I wonder what Lucifer thinks about being portrayed as a black woman

    • @iprobablyforgotsomething
      @iprobablyforgotsomething 5 місяців тому +1

      @marqod1437 -- ...?
      .
      ... wha...???
      .
      ... wait, wait... you mean... is that a reference to--
      .
      Oh my good griefasaurus, you're right... welp, now you have company in Cantunseeitville. Thanks a lot. Idk if I should laugh in bewilderment or shudder in creeped outness at Disney's choices for that movie. Maybe sigh in despair, if it does actually turn out to have been an accident.

  • @imaperson52
    @imaperson52 5 місяців тому +6

    Marvel had no intention of bringing back the Russo brothers. It was one of RDJ's conditions for coming back at all.

  • @silverscorpio24
    @silverscorpio24 5 місяців тому +2

    Your amazing alliterations are awe-inspiring.

  • @fayescarlet
    @fayescarlet 5 місяців тому +1

    Brilliantly balanced, beautifully bountiful, and boldly breathtaking! Your astounding alliteration absolutely amazes and adds artistic allure to every eloquent expression!

  • @that-action
    @that-action 5 місяців тому +2

    That was some god tier alliteration. Well done, sir.

  • @Ironica82
    @Ironica82 5 місяців тому +8

    6:35 - 7:10 - nice V speech. Shall we call you D for now on?

  • @rickyd6217
    @rickyd6217 5 місяців тому +2

    Deadpool and Wolverine was a chance to reset everything in a fun and light-hearted way. Instead, they doubled down on TVA, time lines, and multi verse garbage. They're never going to learn. They don't want to learn. They want us to shut up and swallow their trash.

  • @CMStrawbridge
    @CMStrawbridge 5 місяців тому +1

    The moment I heard the news, I rushed over to your channel! I knew you'd have a scratching but apt reaction!
    PS, Amazing alliterative poem! 😂 🫶🏻

  • @gunjchowwiwat8357
    @gunjchowwiwat8357 5 місяців тому +10

    6:34 Remember Remember the 5th of December 😂😂😂. V for Vendetta except it's D for Doom.

    • @verskarton
      @verskarton 5 місяців тому +1

      I think you mean November. December 5th is reserved for something different.

    • @gunjchowwiwat8357
      @gunjchowwiwat8357 5 місяців тому +2

      @@verskarton V: 5th of noVember. D: 5th of December.

  • @morphingindisguise
    @morphingindisguise 5 місяців тому

    Hey Owen, just found your channel.
    I really like the mix of news and commentary!
    Hope you grow even bigger!

  • @rjones6127
    @rjones6127 5 місяців тому +3

    They’re going to do a mashup of Hickman’s Secret Wars and Bendis’ Infamous Iron Man, which had Dr. Doom become Iron Man. They’ll have a multiversal Stark become Doom. Or in the Fantastic Four’s universe, Doom just looks like Stark.

    • @jamiebraswell5520
      @jamiebraswell5520 5 місяців тому +2

      By casting RDJ as Doom, they have already messed up. Doom is a biggie that everyone has been waiting for, so now this reveal sucks all of the excitement away and fills the void with uncertainty and just plain head scratching. It reeks of the fact that they are going to ruin Doom by veering way off course from the beloved villain. I don't even care, honestly.

  • @iprobablyforgotsomething
    @iprobablyforgotsomething 5 місяців тому

    I appreciate how you preface your "like" jokes with the proper dad-joke grin (uh... no pun intended, I swear). It really adds +50% more dad-ness to each quip. It's a really good deal for my like-dollar.

  • @s3studios597
    @s3studios597 5 місяців тому +1

    Your rant had me legit laughing and clapping. Congladuration, good sir.

  • @hteekay
    @hteekay 5 місяців тому +4

    At least he isn't back as Iron Heart's hologram Stark that primary function is to praise Rie Rie into high Heaven.
    I was so scared that he'd be back for that role when there's a talk that he's coming back to MCU

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  5 місяців тому +5

      Oh man, if they made him Luke to Ironheart’s Rey, there would have been riots

    • @majorgear1021
      @majorgear1021 5 місяців тому

      Are you certain he isn’t? He could be playing 2 characters like Amandla did in The Acolyte.

  • @spider1g5
    @spider1g5 5 місяців тому

    I heard this casting and just sighed "they're getting desperate"

  • @oldbittercraig3513
    @oldbittercraig3513 5 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely amazing and astute alliteration at around 7min.

  •  5 місяців тому +3

    Every movie after endgame convinces me even more so that thanos was right

  • @ereini0n
    @ereini0n 5 місяців тому +1

    So well-said! Depressing, indeed.

  • @realistic_delinquent
    @realistic_delinquent 5 місяців тому +83

    People aren’t developing standards. The zeitgeist is shifting, and the “nerd stuff” fad is on its way out.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  5 місяців тому +32

      That’s a very good perspective on this. It’s been well over a decade and the crowd is moving on to the next thing, which might be video game movies if these new titles are anything to go by

    • @leviticusprime4904
      @leviticusprime4904 5 місяців тому +3

      @@gregowen2022if that's the case, I just how this fasnturns out better than the last.

    • @cahe6161
      @cahe6161 5 місяців тому +25

      I hope it does, going mainstream was the worst thing that could've happen to geek culture, it attracted a lot of turists that ended up fucking things up.

    • @aw3someinc175
      @aw3someinc175 5 місяців тому +3

      if it is video games, disney has kingdom hearts...

    • @Honed-
      @Honed- 5 місяців тому +3

      well after they destroyed it with agenda pushing. i would watch this stuff if it wasnt so f**king "if you dont watch it your homophobic, and you are a racist." it just dosnt make me wanna watch it, deadpool and wolverene I've been told is a great movie, and it dosnt have that focus on esg... so it just feels good to watch, and the people watching it reflect that, as its been the best thing disney has put out... and i think they know it, and its why they cant keep making these girl boss movies/ shows, cause thats not marketing to there fans... thats marketing towards themselves.
      what ever the case may be, i hope this is a good sign, and not a bad one, a move in the right direction... hopefully, maybe... but its just a wait and see..

  • @anthonypitiol2503
    @anthonypitiol2503 5 місяців тому +1

    This is basically all the bad ideas rolled up into one massively bad idea.

  • @ylfaer
    @ylfaer 5 місяців тому

    The first Iron Man trailer gave me goosebumps. The Iron Maiden song playing while the tank exploded, he walking away without looking, all the build up showing him as a confident playboy full of himself... But, after YEARS of those people crapping over us and demanding fans to swallow whatever they've thrown at our faces, it just doesn't stick anymore.

  • @erubin100
    @erubin100 5 місяців тому +3

    I'm quite surprised you didn't include the word "doom" in that otherwise VERY impressive alliteration rant!

  • @costarich8029
    @costarich8029 5 місяців тому +2

    Hard core Dr Doom alliteration. Thumbs up.

  • @OntheOtherHandVideos
    @OntheOtherHandVideos 5 місяців тому +1

    I loved the Lego movie "sarcastic quotations" - genuinely made me laugh!

  • @GuiltlessGear
    @GuiltlessGear 5 місяців тому +2

    I don't doubt Robert's ability to play a villainous character, nor do I doubt his ability to play a convincing European man. What I'm almost sure we will get however, is a thinly veiled evil Tony Stark.
    It already happened once with Ultron, I see no reason for this to be any different.

  • @gregorygaines8663
    @gregorygaines8663 5 місяців тому

    As a loyal Greg-ular (who also happens to be named "Greg"), I love your takes on almost everything you cover, but today I'm here to say that you don't get enough praise for your smash-cut game. Brooklyn 99, Avenged Sevenfold, and the always-great subscribe plug... It's a majestic tapestry that you've woven, my friend. Keep cranking out the awesome content!

  • @vexvega5225
    @vexvega5225 5 місяців тому

    Was not expecting that A7X bit. Great video as always

  • @hatuletoh
    @hatuletoh 5 місяців тому +1

    "Nonplussed" means extremely surprised, or if you want to get as literal as possible based on the etymology, "maximally surprised to such an extent that it would not be possible to be more surprised." In any case, nonplussed is not a synonym for "nonchalant" or "casual" or "disinterested"--quite the opposite.

    • @caffeineman72
      @caffeineman72 5 місяців тому +1

      INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN
      (of a person) not disconcerted; unperturbed.
      "I remember students being nonplussed about the flooding in the city, as they had become accustomed to it over the years"

  • @DarkEclipse23
    @DarkEclipse23 5 місяців тому +2

    It’s just a Doctor Who stunt. They brought back RTD and David Tennant. Even Catherine Tate,… and even they couldn’t stop the writing.

  • @darkdudironaji
    @darkdudironaji 5 місяців тому +1

    2:45 Using THAT song after saying "defiling your heroes" 😂😂😂

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  5 місяців тому

      Haha, I couldn't think of a YT appropriate way of describing what they did to Luke, so this loophole works

    • @darkdudironaji
      @darkdudironaji 5 місяців тому

      ​@@gregowen2022I'm not a Star Wars fan. So I don't know what happened. But I'm guessing they unalived him and had their way with the body after, based on what I just saw.

  • @pedroares6562
    @pedroares6562 5 місяців тому +6

    Agreed. Also, and avengers movie on 2026, really? Even if I was happy about Robert Doomsy Jr. They hand't build a new avengers team that can replace the old avengers. It will have Thor, because why not, the new Captain America, who is ok, and maybe spiderman.... And who else? The old avengers was exciting because they took damn 5 years to build it. Will the new Avengers be a success? I don't know, but I know I won't go to watch it.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  5 місяців тому +4

      Completely agree. That first scene with all the avengers in a circle in New York was over 4 years in the making. That was epic. You can’t force that. What they have to work with in these phases can not be put together to reproduce anything near that moment

    • @Altaira17
      @Altaira17 5 місяців тому

      I can’t get excited about upcoming Avengers films because I can’t even imagine who “the Avengers” are anymore. Who are the core characters now? Who are the new Big Five? Who are we supposed to root for? It’s just a big mush. Frankly, they don’t have an Avengers team that’s worthy of Dr. Doom (no matter who plays him.) I just don’t see a path forward.

  • @Elerad
    @Elerad 5 місяців тому +1

    That is some seriously impressive alliteration, mate

  • @Dabugman02
    @Dabugman02 5 місяців тому

    "The opposite of love isn't hatred, it's indifference"

  • @blakeking1125
    @blakeking1125 5 місяців тому +1

    Tbh i feel like they probably should have just stopped after end game.
    If they'd taken some time away, and only come back once they had a really good idea, then I might've kept watching. Instead they've just cemented the idea that they don't have any good ideas left. I feel like they'll carry that stain for a long time, even if they manage to turn things around.

    • @Denneska
      @Denneska 5 місяців тому

      To me, it ended with Infinity War. End Game is too poorly written. Ex: they could have healed Iron Man using the Time Stone, at the end.

  • @A_YouTube_Commenter
    @A_YouTube_Commenter 5 місяців тому +1

    My prediction is RDJ will make more than the actual movies he's in.

  • @Nirual
    @Nirual 4 місяці тому

    The way the like button lit up after he said to press it, was awesome!

  • @matityaloran9157
    @matityaloran9157 5 місяців тому +2

    12:04, if they just brought back stand-alone superhero movies then they could have a Fantastic Four movie with Lewis Strauss as Dr. Doom and have it be good. Thanks to the MCU connection they’re having their Dr. Doom be Iron Man

  • @admthrawnuru
    @admthrawnuru 5 місяців тому

    There's like a 10% chance sometime genuinely good comes out of this. I can get over a weird casting if it's done well, but the fish rots from the head, and the head still looks rotten. I hope they pleasantly surprise us though

  • @martinjohn9904
    @martinjohn9904 4 місяці тому

    Concise yet comprehensive, cogent,caustic, and cohesive criticism

  • @godkingskorzeur
    @godkingskorzeur 5 місяців тому +1

    I agree with everything you said Mr.D, please don't kill me...

  • @a.f.watcher8888
    @a.f.watcher8888 5 місяців тому +1

    I’m hopeful that RDJ is a misdirect and we meet the real Doom.

  • @sandoristar7597
    @sandoristar7597 5 місяців тому

    The question is based on WHICH character will this be based on and how this "new hope" of MCU will un-F the bad written phase 4-5 ?
    Also which projects are currently in production ( having the BAD MCU writing ) and how this can be tied to the new direction they try to make.
    The problem with MCU was not the character but the writing and the agenda tried to pushed HARD, and as I read from what happened with DP&W Marvel haven't learned, they just forced to allow DP to do what Reynolds wanted

  • @ventzxX
    @ventzxX 5 місяців тому +1

    They genderbent Deadpool
    Let me repeat this: they, after D&W did like $450M on its first weekend, decided that their next step was to kill wade and swapping him out with a "superior" female counterpart.
    I really hope this blows up on their faces.

  • @KAZVorpal
    @KAZVorpal 5 місяців тому +1

    The problem with bringing back all of the people who made those four best Marvel movies from before, is that this puts a cap on anything good that they can do.
    In other words, if they were a competent entertainment house they would also be bringing in new people to take the flag for the future.
    The problem is that they are incompetent at choosing new people, as they have proven for the past several years.
    So Disney is still doomed.
    No pun intended.

  • @cuthalion4281
    @cuthalion4281 5 місяців тому +2

    I appreciate the alliteration lol
    It can be cringe if it's too forced, but you pulled it off.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  5 місяців тому +1

      Much appreciated! I do love a good alliterated bit

  • @KeytarArgonian
    @KeytarArgonian 5 місяців тому +1

    I predicted this would be divisive as soon as I saw that first image.
    They will lose half the normies if RDJ doesn’t play Tony Stark. They will lose all the Diehards for making Doom a Tony Stark variant and not Victor Von Doom.
    And this very weak defence of
    ‘BuT dOoM aNd iRoN mAn hAvE sWaPpEd pLaCeS bEfOrE!¡!’
    Yes. But who wanted the MCU to feature ‘Doom that appeared less than 1% of the time in the comics.’
    Nobody.

  • @TheMelMan
    @TheMelMan 5 місяців тому +1

    Popping in from Apathy Island to register my "Meh" as well. As a former MCU fanatic, I couldn't care less.

  • @thewookieejedi9122
    @thewookieejedi9122 5 місяців тому +1

    Good alliteration, sir. Jolly good alliteration.

  • @H34rtLikeDavid
    @H34rtLikeDavid 5 місяців тому

    I was wondering where the Acolyte video was. I'm so sorry you have to go through that...

  • @dalazul9711
    @dalazul9711 5 місяців тому +1

    This new line of movies is too heavily dependent on poorly developed, unpopular characters. Even Doom was silly at first in the comics. But writers had so many years to develop him, that he became a great antagonist. Sure, his powers and attributes became incredible, but it's also (or even more?) because of the history that he shared with the different heroes that he evetually became one of the most beloved Marvel villains. The new movies' creators will have too few opportunities to establish him as a major, existential threat, and the heroes Marvel has on hand at the present time are not at the level needed to stop Doom at his peak (as shown in the comics). If they nerf Doom to make him beatable by Ms. Marvel... then we know it's going to be crap.

  • @leyenda6149
    @leyenda6149 5 місяців тому +1

    I do miss Greg's preachy stuff. He has a real knack for it. Self-improvement and being a better citizen of the world. That stuff is sooooo good! Too bad the doggone algorithm punishes creators for videos that don't get huge traffic. Thankfully, his range of stuff is very satisfying and top drawer as well!

  • @matityaloran9157
    @matityaloran9157 5 місяців тому +4

    7:10, nice alliteration

  • @R_Phoenix0
    @R_Phoenix0 5 місяців тому +1

    YES! Someone is saying what I'm thinking.

  • @michaelkclark6981
    @michaelkclark6981 5 місяців тому

    Walt’s Corpse ….
    This is why I look forward to your videos
    You are the Man …
    Mr Wordsworth ….
    They need leadership not management.
    There needs to be someone that loves what they are selling 😊

  • @TheQuesadillaMan
    @TheQuesadillaMan 5 місяців тому +1

    The ONLY way RDJ as Doom can work is if he never takes his mask off. If he takes his mask off then they have to throw in some unoriginal multiverse nonsense about evil Tony Stark.

    • @jamiebraswell5520
      @jamiebraswell5520 5 місяців тому

      Whatever the case, RDJ as Doom clearly shows that they are going to do our favorite villain completely wrong.

  • @Xenomurphy
    @Xenomurphy 5 місяців тому

    It's always entertaining to see all the fresh and new ideas Disney comes up with in order to fuck everything up. Wow!

  • @Flaris
    @Flaris 5 місяців тому +1

    I was mixed when the news was announced and I still am. On some level I think it could work. RDJ is a good actor and I think he could handle Doom well. Sad to say but this could be the best live action version of Doom…if they actually handle it well then it could work.
    But yeah, I’m also worried. Someone new as Doom would have been more ideal. I don’t love abusing the multiverse stuff since it hasn’t been a great element. Really does risk making everything so utterly pointless.
    It’s utterly desperate. Unbelievably so. Though that they are desperate at least shows that they might have noticed that this hasn’t been working. Might mean utter disaster. Though desperation might let them pull off a miracle.

  • @fiveduckstudio
    @fiveduckstudio 5 місяців тому

    I'm not a fan, but it also depends on whether he is Victor Von Doom or a Tony Stark variant. There is no one from this current group of "heroes" that I'm interested in. Another thing to consider is that only one of the writers is coming back as well. We'll see how it goes. hoping for the best, but not expecting anything much. 😅

  • @brooke9192
    @brooke9192 5 місяців тому

    For those who are curious: the "cargo cults" reference is from a sargon of akkad video with that name.

  • @realistic_delinquent
    @realistic_delinquent 5 місяців тому +1

    Damn, that alliterative verse was… strong.

  • @Saturn2888
    @Saturn2888 5 місяців тому +1

    Even Deadpool 3 didn't look great, just "okay", so good luck to Disney with any future ventures. My family and I won't be there.