How to Attach a Hanging Wire to a Painting: Part 1
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2014
- By request: How to put a hanging wire on the back of a painting: Part 1.
Be sure to watch Part 2 as well: • How to Attach a Hangin...
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-Cedar Lee
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Doesn't hurt to be reminded what NOT to do and to be shown HOW TO, easily!! Thank you so much Cedar
So glad this video is still around.
Cedar, I am forever grateful to you. I just returned to this video years later to again learn from you how to do this. I needed a refresher. Thank you for making this video. It is so explanatory and clear. Thank you thank you.
When i lived in the UK most used cord (25kilo) but then i moved to Germany where like you they use wire, so I'd like to say a huge thankyou for a great video that explains all anyone needs to know 👏 😊
Glad you found it helpful!
Outstanding video, the best I have seen on the subject. Judging by videos, not only are you a gifted artist, but a master teacher, as well. I’m trying to learn as much I can on the subject so I can help my son. He paints on wood panels and his art is on display in galleries in East Hollywood and downtown L.A., and recently was a featured artist at the South Pasadena Arts Crawl, but hanging these panels is always a workout. Your method is the best I’ve seen. In the past year I have learned how to prep his boards, you know, to make his life easier. You rock, Cedar!
Thank you for this video, it helped with the small doubts I had about attaching the hanging hardware. It was good to also see the type of wire you used, I immediately placed an order with Amazon. Part 2 was just as good and liked the additional tips you offered too! Imagine almost 7 years later you helped another person!
This was perfectly informative. Exactly what I needed! Thank you!
Very helpful video. The frames themselves are excellent; very solid with the angle supports.
This video was very helpful! thank you for explaining everything step by step. I have a bunch of paintings that needs to hung..
Fantastic video instruction!!! Thank you, Cedar Lee, for this outstanding demo.
Thanks for this, I've come back to this video a number of times, always a good quick reminder
Thank you for saving my life. I have this art and fashion show coming up and i had no idea how to prepare my artwork for gallery style hanging.
Pro tip : you can watch series on Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching loads of movies recently.
@Denver Ty Definitely, have been using Flixzone} for since december myself :D
Excellent video. You've helped me to have my art pieces ready to sell. Thank you.
Awesome and very clear video with perfect explanation on why you do it this way. Thank you!
This was a good video to see since you have some gallery experience. Although I've done this so many times, I really liked the "hooks" you used for this and will try to find something similar.
Thanks for making these hanging wire videos; it was extremely helpful to learn how to do it properly! I used the video recently to install the wire on my first huge painting commission and I can rest easy knowing it was done correctly and professionally! Thank you!
I'm just starting out and this was the most helpful info. Thankyou
Thanks a lot; learnt something new today and was able to get my new 48x60 canvas on the wall based on your easy to understand instructions. God Bless
Thank you so much for the video...its my first time ever hanging a canvas painting by myself and this video was very helpful. 😊
Nice work. very professional looking results.
Excellent instructions! Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you. Clear and right to the task at hand.
This video is super helpful. Thank you for sharing.
This was very helpful! Thank you!
Unrelated question: It appears as though you made your own artists panels. I've recently started making my own, but hadn't considered constructing a frame for them. My question is: How did you attach your wood panels to frames? Did you have to use wood putty? And, how does that affect the gesso priming process?
Have my first exhibt soon.Thank you so much for the step by step details! Very helpful😊
Thank you!! Very nice video. I really like that you explained the Why's and Why Not's. Will be wiring a 4'x5' painting using this technique. :)
Ive just made a 30 by 30 amd i was wondering for the hanger and nail in the wall should i use an ancher as well? What would you recommend?
Thankyou! This helped out a bunch.
Thank you for this video, it helps a lot!
Thanks!! Great videos!!
What a helpful tutorial. Thank you!
Thank you ! Great video and perfect instructions!
Nicely explained. Thank you
Excellent video! Thank you so much!
Nice -I wanted to see the picture!!!!!
This was very clear and helpful! I love your work, by the way! What is the significance of the numbers and letters on the back of the painting? Is it a way of keeping a record of all your work? I've never seen this before
Yes! Here's my article explaining my art inventory system: www.artbycedar.com/my-art-inventory/
Thank you for posting this!
Cool stuff thanks!
Awesome... this is very useful. Do you have any advice on how to hang a canvas that quite long and skinny? I'm trying to figure out the best way to hang a 72x18 size canvas.
I would hang it from 2 hooks 24" apart, using a level when putting the hooks into the wall. So, when attaching the wire, I'd probably put your hardware (2 D-ring hangers or eye hooks, depending on preference and weight of the painting) at 6" down from the top of your canvas on either end. Then I'd measure 12" away from the center of the painting on either side, and stretch the wire so it hits those 2 points, about 4" down from the top of the painting. Hope that makes sense!
Thanks so much for this -- you were very clear in your lesson, and I am going to do this 36 x 48 picture with one other woman to lift & hold, etc. (I had hoped my sons who visited me last weekend would do this job for me, but they looked-the-other-way when I brought it up. So, it's now DIY. Thanks again.
Thank you!!
So helpful!!!!!
I love this tutorial and have used it for all my paintings. However, I do have difficulties figuring out how loose or tight to make the wire - when I follow the tutorial and had the wire hang at 4” below the top of my 20x20” painting, the top of the painting hung way too far away from the wall. I had to redo it and give it much less slack. I also have artist friends who always put the hooks on the inside so that the painting does not hang away from the wall. Any suggestions to make this easier and take the guesswork out?
Hi! It's been so long since I made this video that I don't remember the details. I figure I've probably tweaked my own process over the years. :)
In this case I would say put your eye screws or D-rings closer to the top edge. You can have the wire taut at less than 4"--3" or even 2". The main consideration is to leave enough space so the whole length of the hook on the wall fits under the wooden frame of your painting.
I wish there were one magic formula, but I make these decisions based on the dimensions, materials and weight of each painting.
Putting the hardware on the inner edges of your stretcher bars is usually fine--but be careful if you are using D-rings on a very heavy painting, as the weight of the painting can actually pull the hardware apart over time.
I would suggest a double loop method for going through the D ring as this method enhances the strength of the wiring job. It ensures if someone uses wire slightly too light for the job that it will put the weight of the art onto two wires not just one. Look for a 54 second video on wiring a picture frame for a very good detail on this process. ( it’s the method framing shops use for wiring )
Great suggestion, thanks!
Perfect!
Thank you !
I have a large canvas painting about 6' wide and 4' long. The frame is pretty light, I would say its about 10 to 15 pounds. Would this wire method work for that too? Also, I was told to use 2 hooks. Would it matter?
Yes. And yes, I would use 2 hooks for something that wide. Otherwise it'll always be getting knocked crooked.
Thank you!!!
Can I use the eye hook instead of D ring on at 16x16 cradled birch panel? How do you determine when to use eye hook vs D ring?
Yes, you can.
There are 2 things to consider--one is the width of the piece of wood your eye screw is going into--you don't want to use eye screws if the edges of your panel are too thin--make sure the eye screw will not be popping out through the outside edge of your painting, or even coming close enough to the edge that it might distort the wood on the other side! So just to be sure, I always hold up the eye screw against the wood to make absolutely sure of this detail.
The other thing is the weight of your painting. I only use eye screws for smaller, more lightweight pieces. Anything 16" x 16", even on heavy wood, would be fine with an eye screw. I would stick to D-rings for large-scale pieces.
Thanks!
What should I do for 88"x88" painting? Is very heavy. What hook, what wire and most importantly what distances should I use ?
Is it on a stretched canvas? At that size, I would likely not use a hanging wire but look into other options such as heavy duty D-ring hangers attached to the backs of the stretcher bars, that you can hang on screws drilled into studs or drywall anchors in the wall.
Or maybe a French cleat system, depending what can be easily attached to the back of the painting.
If you do use a wire, I would go very overboard with very heavy-duty wire and heavy-duty hardware so everything is solid. And I'd measure the wire to fall across 2 hooks on the wall, so the weight is distributed between them. And use heavy-duty hooks. (Depending how heavy this is. There are options for hanging very heavy things on the wall safely.)
Greetings Cedar.... I am interested to know where you purchased your framing wire online. Pls share the link. Danke. Mick🙈
Found it. www.amazon.com/SuperSoftstrand-6-275-Feet-Wire-Stranded-Stainless/dp/B00504PJTI/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1549561878&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=super+softstrand+framing+wire&dpPl=1&dpID=51LVNs5QU0L&ref=plSrch
Thanks :)
Do you think I can put a wire across two keyholes on either side of a canvas, rather than using D-ring hangers?
I don't see why not! As long as it's secure and looks nice.
Hi Cedar, thanx for this informative video. I was wondering what marker you used to write on the back of the panel since most markers just sort of sink away into wood. Can you please recommend a type to use. Thanx in advance. Jacqi
+MJ Krugs Hi Jacqi, nothing fancy--just a Sharpie!
Oh no, I accidentally cut the wire too short on the second end of my canvas. Is there a way to save it or do I have to start all over?
Unfortunately I would save that piece for another canvas and start over. You could twist two pieces together to make a longer piece, but even if you were sure it was secure and could hold the weight without coming apart, it wouldn't look good, so if you're creating the art to sell, that's something to consider.
can I know where you got the D ring and wire?
Hi, in case this question still applies, there are lots of options available on Amazon. I like the SoftStrand brand of wire. A search for "d ring hanger" will pull up a great selection. Blick Art Materials is also fantastic, even better if you have a store near you.
Hi, which camera do you use to vlog?
I believe when I made this video I was using a Samsung GALAXY s5. (I now have the s7 which is great too.) I think most cell phone cameras coming out today are all great for video.
Ahh thanks! Would love to start vlogging. I have an iphone 6 and thinking of just using that with some good lighting. Thanks!
Isn’t “Cedar Lee” a bohemian commercial district in Cleveland?
Yes, yes it is. I have been competing with the Cedar Lee theater for Google rankings since 2006!
Time saver: I have some needle-nose pliers with wire cutter built in.
In our painting conservation lab, we see single screws (for hardware like you show in your video for attaching the hanging wire) and eye screws work their way loose all the time. We have 5 paintings in for rip repair now that fell off their respective walls. There are several reasons why the hardware you used in this video may be inadequate and why it could fail: 1. The wire is too thin, 2. the eye hole/screw for attaching the wire is too small or doesn't go into the wood deep enough), 3. The word is very soft. Remember, the weakest link is the one that fails. BTW, you can put on a strong, well-designed hanging wire but if you use a small finishing nail in plaster board to hang it on a wall... well then, you are asking for trouble.
Thanks for sharing this! If you have specific hardware that you can recommend to artists reading the comments, please share brand names/links. :)
I have seen what you mean about hardware sometimes failing especially with soft wood.
A good rule to keep in mind is that overkill is never a problem.
My solution to the eye screws working lose is to put a dab of clear acrylic medium on them before screwing them in. I have used the technique on almost 300 pieces of my art with 100 percent success.
@@shericopelandmeadows3916 Sounds good Sheri, anything to help. I like the idea plus adding a couple of screws to the mounting of the wire attachment. Its the weakest link that will give away... so even though the wire may be well attached, the painting can still come off the wall easily if the hook isn't well attached, for example.
Where can I find a spool of wire?
mario paz www.amazon.com/SuperSoftstrand-6-275-Feet-Wire-Stranded-Stainless/dp/B00504PJTI/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1549561878&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=super+softstrand+framing+wire&dpPl=1&dpID=51LVNs5QU0L&ref=plSrch
You mention that putting these d rings on the inside isn’t the best- in your experience have screw eyes (instead of d rings) on the inside also ripped out of wood frames??
Thanks for the video. It looks like you forgot to drill the pilot holes for the screws at 4:45 using that little drill bit you mentioned. It's probably not a problem with the big bars and single screws, but for two screw hardware or picture frames, it's a must!
Depends on the hardness of the wood too. Those particular screws are teeny weeny and there's no danger of the wood splitting or anything if you skip the pilot hole in the particular case shown here. It takes a bit of experience to get a knack for whether pilot holes are required or not. When in doubt, drill a pilot hole!
memobug same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3:08
Do not destroy the magic I thought they defied gravity and time itself, life is short, art is forever, translate into Latin.
Could not actually SEE the wiring process.
Thanks for this feedback. Guess I should make another video showing that close-up. Maybe someone else on UA-cam has a good close-up of this.
Time saver: Skip to 3:35 minutes.
Don't put paintings against edges of furniture. And put the screws on the inside of the frame to not scratch the wall when its hanging.
I don't remember if I mentioned this in this video, but--attaching a D-ring hanger on the inside of the frame is specifically a bad idea. It would be okay if you used heavy-duty hangers on a very light painting--otherwise, don't do this. I've seen too many paintings where the weight of the painting pulled the D-ring apart when done this way.
As for furniture-leaning, yep. Know your painting, know your furniture, be gentle, use padding when needed, and typically you ought to wait until the painting is dry before messing with the back of it (or attach your wires before painting)--for the purposes of this video--hanging wire demo--I did not take many of these precautions. ;) Doing this on carpet with a completely dry or unpainted surface is probably best.
Camera needed to be MUCH closer to what you were doing.
Cedar..great job explaining, great sharp, quality video…but you "um" about every fourth word, and it becomes so difficult to listen to it distracts from what you're doing. Just a bad habit, and your presentation would be much more professional without it.
Sorry about that. I'm sure it's the result of narrating what I'm doing while working with my hands, rather than speaking pre-planned points. Will surely be mindful of "ums" in the future. :)
Great video! Thank you.