Does it sound thicker when you bypass it? Does it change settings every time you use it? There are a bunch of variables with those things, so it’s hard to tell. Thanks for the comment Alvin!
I don't watch movies. James 4:4 KJV - Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
when working with powerful 4x12 guitar cabinets it helps to lower 1kHz or oh, I also add a second channel and pan the guitar usually in one channel a little more and put a 0.25ms delay, it helps free the center of guitars and adds volume. Thank you very much!
Hello! I know I’ve commented in your videos before; you can tell I’m a “fan.” Thanks again for all you do in these videos. They’re very informative and interesting to watch. Now, I was wondering if you can ever do a video of the basic rules of thumb when EQing and compressing instruments. For example, in this video you went over how to make an electric guitar sound good. It’d be neat if you can upload a video of ‘how to make ALL (the usual church) instruments sound good with EQ and compression.’ I know you have videos of that for drums, piano, etc., but doing a video like that with all instruments at once, especially in live soundcheck setting, would help us. Thank you!
Hey Oscar! Totally! Is this like what you’re wanting? Or are you wanting me to go a little slower and explain as I go? ua-cam.com/video/tjC89HiIx9w/v-deo.html
How about when as a guitarist I already have an EQ and compressor on my chain, and I’m recording? Should I turn them off or apply everything over again post-recording? At least I, as a session musician, try to prepare my tone as best as I can before or while recording, is that recommended? Or should I do those things afterwards? Great video by the way!
Guitar tone before the amp is its own animal. I've been trying to wrap my head around it lately, but if a guitar player wants to use compression, reverb, delay, whatever else, GO FOR IT. Just make sure it doesn't muck up the signal. Electric guitar is about dynamics, and how the tone/grit changes in different dynamic ranges. Extremely distorted guitars have no more dynamic range, so don't bother with compressors on them. But if they live in any clean/crunch/mild-medium overdrive space then compression is still helpful, and reverb just helps it sound natural.
Thank you so much for this video, so I just wanted to ask when mixing a guitar, what sound are you looking for? Would it be a low-mid, or in the highs?
Dear Sir, I have a question for you. If I fix guitar to Multi effect processor to guitar amplifier then what is the position that DI box should come???? Between Guitar and Effect processor or Between Amplifier and Effect processor????
I try to keep things balanced, so there's equal "weight" on either side. In the studio I'll pan hard left and right... live, sometimes 10-2. Another video on that coming up soon
Hey thank you so much for these videos! Would you be willing to share your general compressor settings for electrics? How much gain reduction you aim for, ratio, attack/release? Thanks again!!!
Electric guitars are both compressed themselves with their overdrive/distortion, and dynamic between their parts, so I like to have the compressor working for both melodic and rhythmic parts, just less compression on the melodic parts. So if I have a ratio of 3-4:1, and it's giving me 2-3dB of compression when they're playing melodies, it pins the rhythmic parts in place pretty well. Attack is the tone control, so anywhere from 3ms for a thinner sound, to 15ms for a thicker sound. And release I like a little slower, in the 300-500ms range. This helps bring up the reverb and delays from their pedals
Though our sound techs are all pretty awesome (it's rare that I hear a bad mix anymore), a lot of it has to do with the musicians' tone. When they get themselves dialed in, it makes our job a LOT easier. So we get to share the love and brag on them too 😂
Thanks for the tips.. Really helpful.. My question is, the guitars sound good through the recording as it's direct. Like in a studio. But I am really not loving how my guitar sounds directly through the PA system live. I'm using digital software running straight to the PA. Any tips on sounding better through the pa
I'm a bit late to the party, but thanks for this. I'm a guitar player at my church and also do mixing. Over the last few years it's become more common (for us) to run electric guitars in stereo (each player has two amps or amp models). Any suggestions for eq/compression of the same guitar with two different amps (eg Vox and Fender L/R). And also balancing two stereo guitars in a mix?
To me, it all depends on the IR of the cab and how it feels in the context of the mix, whether the overdrive boosts are full-range or more narrow... there's so much that goes into it. You basically have to get a general setting at the console, and the guitarists have to work out the tonal and part arrangement to make it sound good together. As for stereo, in a live environment, I just pan both hard Left & Right most of the time. Watch my video on stereo vs. mono, because it can take some turns depending on the PA, but that's my general go-to.
Maybe it's me, but I feel like there were a lot of generalizations made in this video. I'll try and explain myself. 1). Boosting and cutting any instrument in any way- but especially noticeable in E Guitar- is a direct change to the tonal makeup of the intended sonic structure. In my humble experience, most issues arising from loud amps are gain staging issues, not EQ (But perhaps this is off topic). 2). Adding a hi shelf to any hi-gain situation will create incredible amounts of fizz and finger slide sounds if handled incorrectly. 3). The High Pass filter is a great idea, but if a musician is intentional with their gear setup it may or may not actually be necessary depending upon the environment of the gig. I just felt there were a lot of generalizations. No hate, just thinking.
Thanks dude! Your video have all been a huge help. Could you maybe do a video strictly on compression? You’ve done a lot on each individual video but maybe do a video just about how to compress different things and why? I think it would help people better understand compression and how to use it. You could probably just edit together a video using existing footage.
Cool, thanks! I must have missed that one. What is the best way to contact you with questions? If you offer that? Sometimes I have quick questions and you sir seem to know your stuff. Keep that bottom end big and round!
Dear Sir, I want know that, when we set the GAIN for Vocal and all Instruments, should we get the volume level indicator to unity gain (0db green bulb) always????? For all mics, guitars, drums????
You can do that, or you can set the fader where you want it and balance your signal musically with the preamp... these two videos talk all about that. ua-cam.com/video/HeEZGxvLov8/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/WMn67g_HLpI/v-deo.html
@@AttawayAudio yes sir! I did. I'm having trouble developing my ear for it, to be totally transparent. I typically use a 30ms attack, but the release is hard for me to get. I'm also trying to figure our whether or not to compress the rhythm electrics (pip rock level distortion, two recorded tracks panned opposite) and then sending to another bus to glue compress with other rhythm instruments; I'm worried about too much compression and all that.
I’m spoilt. My son plugs his Helix effects unit, stereo, straight in with compression, High and low pass filters applied. I just mix it flat and match his pass filters.
That's a great topic Michael! And a really tricky one. Especially in live sound, since it's so loud, and the vocal can hurt. It's tricky to show on a video, since people are listening on different devices, but I'll give it a shot! Have you seen my vocal mixing tutorials? ua-cam.com/video/ey715RqVozk/v-deo.html
Live sound is usually "wide mono." So if I have a stereo source, I'll pan that hard left and right, but most other stuff stays in the middle, or very close to it
Is micing the amp the way to go or is it possible to go straight into the console? If so, do you have some tips for that. Currently going straight into board. It sounds thin and super distorted.
I do! But not on electric guitars usually. I feel like the players get whatever tube-y tone they want from their amp/pedal setup, so I’m trying not to stray too far from that “vision” with my compressor choices. But the tube button is 💯
Great idea, Chelsea! A bunch of digital consoles have some sort of digital emulation somewhere. I could definitely walk through when I'd choose to use it. Thanks!
How's that sound for you? I always feel like I need to move some air to really get the sound I'm after, though I've seen the speaker-level "hot plate" things too.
I can't recall EXACTLY, but my go-to is a 3:1-4:1 ratio with a soft knee, attack between 7-15ms and a release between 350-500ms. I actually like to compress it a LOT, but that's up to you
Hi in your experience, is it polite to ask a guitar player to turn off/ remove his reverb effects so that the sound guy will handle that modulation part via console effects. Seems like the reverb in branded mix consoles are far better than cheap guitar pedals. I struggle with that part, seems it’s harder to properly mix an electric guitar if his orig sound is already filtered by a deep flood of reverbs. Thanks
maybe not "off" but "less and appropriate." You can help them get dialed in to fit in with the band, but I wouldn't want to play without reverb and delay personally
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My guitar sounds very thin and different everytime I plugged in directly to the PA from my multi effects pedal. How to fix that?
Does it sound thicker when you bypass it? Does it change settings every time you use it? There are a bunch of variables with those things, so it’s hard to tell. Thanks for the comment Alvin!
I don't watch movies. James 4:4 KJV - Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
You taught me lots here, even the safety stuff I never knew. Thank you so much!
Happy to help!
For those about to rock, this EQ, I salute you.
Sometimes I find it helps to scoop 2 to 3dB of 2.5kHz out to help vocals come through.
Yup - vocals are the most important input. Thanks for the comment!
Thank you sooooooo much sir! You are an amazing teacher with a lot of humour..God bless you richly!
when working with powerful 4x12 guitar cabinets it helps to lower 1kHz or oh, I also add a second channel and pan the guitar usually in one channel a little more and put a 0.25ms delay, it helps free the center of guitars and adds volume. Thank you very much!
Nice tip! Guitars have so many variables
Hello! I know I’ve commented in your videos before; you can tell I’m a “fan.”
Thanks again for all you do in these videos. They’re very informative and interesting to watch.
Now, I was wondering if you can ever do a video of the basic rules of thumb when EQing and compressing instruments. For example, in this video you went over how to make an electric guitar sound good. It’d be neat if you can upload a video of ‘how to make ALL (the usual church) instruments sound good with EQ and compression.’
I know you have videos of that for drums, piano, etc., but doing a video like that with all instruments at once, especially in live soundcheck setting, would help us.
Thank you!
Hey Oscar! Totally! Is this like what you’re wanting? Or are you wanting me to go a little slower and explain as I go? ua-cam.com/video/tjC89HiIx9w/v-deo.html
Thank you so much for these videos. They help me so much!
I’m so glad Oscar! Thanks for watching!
This is great. Super helpful thanks!
great video! glad I found this channel
Your tips have been helpful, thanks for the opportunity to learn new things... I would also want to know how you handle an acoustics guitar.
So glad it's been helpful for you! Check out this video on acoustic guitar ua-cam.com/video/H6_L4X_ftNM/v-deo.html
Learned a whole lot. Let's rock!
can you tell us what you did from 3:35 onwards the next few seconds?
How about when as a guitarist I already have an EQ and compressor on my chain, and I’m recording? Should I turn them off or apply everything over again post-recording?
At least I, as a session musician, try to prepare my tone as best as I can before or while recording, is that recommended? Or should I do those things afterwards?
Great video by the way!
Guitar tone before the amp is its own animal. I've been trying to wrap my head around it lately, but if a guitar player wants to use compression, reverb, delay, whatever else, GO FOR IT. Just make sure it doesn't muck up the signal. Electric guitar is about dynamics, and how the tone/grit changes in different dynamic ranges. Extremely distorted guitars have no more dynamic range, so don't bother with compressors on them. But if they live in any clean/crunch/mild-medium overdrive space then compression is still helpful, and reverb just helps it sound natural.
Bro this has so helpful all of your vids.
So glad it helped you! That’s what I’m here for 🙌🏼
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Thank you so much for this video, so I just wanted to ask when mixing a guitar, what sound are you looking for? Would it be a low-mid, or in the highs?
Thank you so much, these are very useful tips........
You're most welcome!
First!
Waiting for this! Thanks for such information. Really helpful.
Also if you can make 'mic placement' video that would be really good.
Thanks! It's in the works :)
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What if you go direct in is that easier for the sound guy?
Thanks James
Dear Sir, I have a question for you.
If I fix guitar to Multi effect processor to guitar amplifier then what is the position that DI box should come???? Between Guitar and Effect processor or Between Amplifier and Effect processor????
What are your go-to pan settings.. Lets say in a case of a rhythm and lead guitar. Love your videos, take care!
I try to keep things balanced, so there's equal "weight" on either side. In the studio I'll pan hard left and right... live, sometimes 10-2. Another video on that coming up soon
Great vid. I can hear the difference in attack time, but what about the other parameters i.e. release, knee, ratio, mix.
Hey thank you so much for these videos! Would you be willing to share your general compressor settings for electrics? How much gain reduction you aim for, ratio, attack/release?
Thanks again!!!
Electric guitars are both compressed themselves with their overdrive/distortion, and dynamic between their parts, so I like to have the compressor working for both melodic and rhythmic parts, just less compression on the melodic parts. So if I have a ratio of 3-4:1, and it's giving me 2-3dB of compression when they're playing melodies, it pins the rhythmic parts in place pretty well. Attack is the tone control, so anywhere from 3ms for a thinner sound, to 15ms for a thicker sound. And release I like a little slower, in the 300-500ms range. This helps bring up the reverb and delays from their pedals
Attaway Audio awesome! Thank you so much for this info! I have always been bewildered by how good the mix is at IHOPKC. Thanks brother!!
Though our sound techs are all pretty awesome (it's rare that I hear a bad mix anymore), a lot of it has to do with the musicians' tone. When they get themselves dialed in, it makes our job a LOT easier. So we get to share the love and brag on them too 😂
Attaway Audio totally! Well thank you so much for your willingness to share your knowledge, ESPECIALLY, from a worship genre perspective! 🙌
@@AttawayAudio Thanks so much for this. This was what I was wondering after watching the video. Another EXCELLENT video. Thank you!
what is the name of the song in 4:33??
Thanks for the tips.. Really helpful.. My question is, the guitars sound good through the recording as it's direct. Like in a studio. But I am really not loving how my guitar sounds directly through the PA system live. I'm using digital software running straight to the PA. Any tips on sounding better through the pa
does your PA sound good?
I'm a bit late to the party, but thanks for this. I'm a guitar player at my church and also do mixing.
Over the last few years it's become more common (for us) to run electric guitars in stereo (each player has two amps or amp models). Any suggestions for eq/compression of the same guitar with two different amps (eg Vox and Fender L/R). And also balancing two stereo guitars in a mix?
To me, it all depends on the IR of the cab and how it feels in the context of the mix, whether the overdrive boosts are full-range or more narrow... there's so much that goes into it. You basically have to get a general setting at the console, and the guitarists have to work out the tonal and part arrangement to make it sound good together.
As for stereo, in a live environment, I just pan both hard Left & Right most of the time. Watch my video on stereo vs. mono, because it can take some turns depending on the PA, but that's my general go-to.
Really helpful. thanks so much!
You’re very welcome Neil!
Maybe it's me, but I feel like there were a lot of generalizations made in this video. I'll try and explain myself.
1). Boosting and cutting any instrument in any way- but especially noticeable in E Guitar- is a direct change to the tonal makeup of the intended sonic structure. In my humble experience, most issues arising from loud amps are gain staging issues, not EQ (But perhaps this is off topic).
2). Adding a hi shelf to any hi-gain situation will create incredible amounts of fizz and finger slide sounds if handled incorrectly.
3). The High Pass filter is a great idea, but if a musician is intentional with their gear setup it may or may not actually be necessary depending upon the environment of the gig.
I just felt there were a lot of generalizations. No hate, just thinking.
Thanks dude! Your video have all been a huge help. Could you maybe do a video strictly on compression? You’ve done a lot on each individual video but maybe do a video just about how to compress different things and why? I think it would help people better understand compression and how to use it. You could probably just edit together a video using existing footage.
Great suggestion! I've got this video going over the basics ua-cam.com/video/bAA0kKEFByQ/v-deo.html
Cool, thanks! I must have missed that one. What is the best way to contact you with questions? If you offer that? Sometimes I have quick questions and you sir seem to know your stuff. Keep that bottom end big and round!
You can DM me on instagram or Messenger on FB, both @attawayaudio 🙌
Thanks! Appreciate it!
Dear Sir, I want know that, when we set the GAIN for Vocal and all Instruments, should we get the volume level indicator to unity gain (0db green bulb) always????? For all mics, guitars, drums????
You can do that, or you can set the fader where you want it and balance your signal musically with the preamp... these two videos talk all about that. ua-cam.com/video/HeEZGxvLov8/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/WMn67g_HLpI/v-deo.html
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what if you are using Pre Sonus Studio Live 16.4.2? how do you address the electrical guitar EQ? Thanks
gear make and model doesn't matter, it's essentially the same tool
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How do you mix 2 stereo guitars in a live setting?
Oof. I'm having trouble figuring out release time for distorted electric guitar with semi-busy strumming. 4/4 straight rock 8th notes. Slow or fast?
Just try stuff?
@@AttawayAudio yes sir! I did. I'm having trouble developing my ear for it, to be totally transparent. I typically use a 30ms attack, but the release is hard for me to get. I'm also trying to figure our whether or not to compress the rhythm electrics (pip rock level distortion, two recorded tracks panned opposite) and then sending to another bus to glue compress with other rhythm instruments; I'm worried about too much compression and all that.
Does the work for the global eq settings on the HX stomp for playing live?
It could, but a lot depends on the other instruments you're playing with to make it really fit in the mix.
I’m spoilt. My son plugs his Helix effects unit, stereo, straight in with compression, High and low pass filters applied. I just mix it flat and match his pass filters.
hey if it sounds good, why mess with it?
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Could you please explain how to mix music and vocal , so the vocal can be clear not over by the music
That's a great topic Michael! And a really tricky one. Especially in live sound, since it's so loud, and the vocal can hurt. It's tricky to show on a video, since people are listening on different devices, but I'll give it a shot! Have you seen my vocal mixing tutorials? ua-cam.com/video/ey715RqVozk/v-deo.html
@@AttawayAudio okay thank you
Great video!
Do you pan your guitar mix?
Live sound is usually "wide mono." So if I have a stereo source, I'll pan that hard left and right, but most other stuff stays in the middle, or very close to it
@@AttawayAudio thank you for your input.
Is micing the amp the way to go or is it possible to go straight into the console? If so, do you have some tips for that. Currently going straight into board. It sounds thin and super distorted.
Whenever possible, mic the amp
An iridium is great if you want to straight pipe it
What console are you mixing on?
SSL L200
Thank you so much for this video buddy! Can you tell me which software you're using ???
It’s a SSL L200. Its 💯
Thanks buddy ! Do you have an Instagram page/account where I can connect with you for asking more about mixing ?
@@rohitpillai1 yup! @attawayaudio on insta and twitter
Do you ever use the tube compression on the SSL?
I do! But not on electric guitars usually. I feel like the players get whatever tube-y tone they want from their amp/pedal setup, so I’m trying not to stray too far from that “vision” with my compressor choices. But the tube button is 💯
Attaway Audio ooooh!! Video on how you use your tube compression then?!
Great idea, Chelsea! A bunch of digital consoles have some sort of digital emulation somewhere. I could definitely walk through when I'd choose to use it. Thanks!
We use the rec out on the amp, no mic.
How's that sound for you? I always feel like I need to move some air to really get the sound I'm after, though I've seen the speaker-level "hot plate" things too.
@@AttawayAudio it's really all we got, there is some noise at times, but it does a good job for what we do.
gotta roll with what you've got 🙌🙌
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Thank you!
You’re welcome, Andrew!
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Thank you.
You're welcome!
What compression parameters are you using?
I can't recall EXACTLY, but my go-to is a 3:1-4:1 ratio with a soft knee, attack between 7-15ms and a release between 350-500ms. I actually like to compress it a LOT, but that's up to you
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Hi in your experience, is it polite to ask a guitar player to turn off/ remove his reverb effects so that the sound guy will handle that modulation part via console effects. Seems like the reverb in branded mix consoles are far better than cheap guitar pedals.
I struggle with that part, seems it’s harder to properly mix an electric guitar if his orig sound is already filtered by a deep flood of reverbs. Thanks
maybe not "off" but "less and appropriate." You can help them get dialed in to fit in with the band, but I wouldn't want to play without reverb and delay personally
Thanks
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What is your "go-to" compression ratio?
Usually 3:1 gets me a good balance of control and "size"... but I like a soft knee for sure. Thanks for the comment Joseph!
me when he bypasses and it sounds the same 2 me 👁👄👁
Sometimes it's drastic. Sometimes it's subtle. Sometimes the exact same setting on one guitar vs another gets totally different results.
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