I imagine the engineers at Honda never intended for this type of awd test; it’s likely in need of a programming change or “off road” specific drive mode to handle that testing. As one comment said, this car was designed to drive around town with an AWD to “help” occasionally with slick travel conditions. A “trail sport” version of the crv is definitely a cool possibility with revised tuning and a different suspension set up.
Hey man thanks for the video! I dont understand weird comments, even though we all know this car is not for off roading but still should have been able to pull that one off! Subscribed!
Thanks for watching and for the support! For on pavement all weather driving it should perform well, when you get to really steep stuff, it starts to struggle.
I saw you commented asking about that in the normal review. Sorry it didn't make the video, but I did a little bit in snow mode off camera (didn't want to keep going with how often the system was overheating). In my experience, snow mode made the throttle too dead so it couldn't build enough RPM quickly enough to overcome the braking force on the wheels without traction and have enough torque get to the other wheels to climb the articulation hill. I just had this vehicle a few weeks ago, so I remember clearly and I'm glad you asked now. In a few months I will have forgotten the testing I did off camera.
@@EngineAdventures thx for the info :) Just my 2 cents - What I really liked about the previous gen (also applicable to this one) is that you have all the torque from 0 rpm, which is very convenient. Not quite the low gear trans case, but you can crawl with that car and not having to stress anything like a clutch or a torque converter. Ofc. honda hasn't designed it for that, but for what it is it's a good awd system. The thing I disliked is the hybrid system in case you had to push the car on the highway, basically after few seconds of full throttle the car hits a wall, especially if you have to overtake someone on an incline - you're limited to the charge left in the battery and then your car turns into a 135bhp veggie :) With time you get used to it by engaging sport mode and acting pre-emptively. But it's a great town car, very smooth.
Thank you for the video! It is great to see the limitations of the car! While wouod be gteat if CRV could handle the off road, as I almost never go off-roading, especially with hybrid cars, I am still very happy with CRV hybrid.
Correct, but now you know what it's capable of if you ever need it. Also this testing very loosely simulates a steep paved road covered in snow as some wheels lose traction.
i'm italian and i'm interested in this car..just for have a correct point of view i ask you the power train is 2 liters ? 184 cv right ? i want exclude any different tipe of motorizazion.. i mean i want know if you are testin the same european model...because seams the same but for example , in european model the automatic gearbox does not have a lever for chose but buttons. thank s for your answer
I think the CRV is best suited for people who spend most of their time on pavement but occasionally venture off-road. It's a great all weather system and wasn't really designed as an offroader
Thanks for watching and for the support! This test isn't as much about the tires as it is about the vehicle's ability to transfer power to the wheels with traction. When all 4 wheels are spinning at the same rate, then the tires come into play. I do agree that having the right tires for the terrain is extremely important though!
After 26 years of producing the AWD CRV, Honda should have been able to create an AWD system that can quickly send power to the correct wheels and also not overheat in just 30 seconds.
They can, and do. The Ridgeline and Pilot have a really good dual clutch rear differential that performs great. Honda has just gone more and more towards a pavement vehicle with the CRV over the years.
The previous generation didn't have overheating problems with the AWD if I'm not wrong. Sad they didn't improve or at least have the same system as before.
I'd have to go back and watch the video on it. I can't remember which CR-V's I've had, but maybe you found a video I did with the previous gen CR-V hybrid?
@@EngineAdventures ok, I was considering the non hybrid one, but I understand the AWD system is the same, as is not a battery powering the rear wheels.
@@subazealand9158 honestly, I haven't looked into them, but my guess is that the would be similar or the same. However, the different engines could play into that as well. If it's the same system, but one has much more torque at low rpm (hybrid) it may stress the AWD system more.
Well I kind of canceled this video. 47K miles in my 2023 CRV I have done numerous of trails and did fine. Again mine is not stock. Definitely reconsider shooting with an equip CRV!
I want to test both of those. I've only had one chance at a Subaru, but I was unavailable that week. Ford hasn't been sending much the past 2 years or so, hopefully they start getting more stuff out to Utah! I really want to test both of those vehicles!
@@EngineAdventuresJust rewatched your Outback test. If this CR-V Hybrid is a 2/10, the Outback was at least a 3.5/10. My SK Forester would also struggle on your hill. One of the upper trims with X-Mode type 2 might just make it. Love the channel!
I've been waiting for this vehicle to come as actually I have a Honda vezel. The problem with these hybrid vehicles is that they don't have an off road mode. I recently went on an off roading trip with a friend who has a Jaguar F Pace, I must say that I pity my poor vezel during that off roading trip as I heard so much rattling as if the vezel would sudden break out on the trip. Whereas my friend in his FPace, he just vanished in front of me as his Jaguar had that off road mode. I wished that Honda CRV hybrid or even the Toyota rav 4 Hybrid could have that off road function just to soften that suspension so that we could drive on Rocky roads when going off roading in a once! It's a pity that technology is taking great leap ahead & yet an off road function these car makers couldn't inculcate into these cars! It sucks.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Sometimes it's the vehicle and sometimes it's a driver who doesn't care about breaking their vehicle. I have no doubt the F-Pace is smoother and has less rattles, however it probably has large wheels with small sidewalls, making a puncture more likely at higher speeds.
2:35 Just shoves the vehicle into the slope. While it appears to be a comically shallow slope to climb that angle of attack is wrong for a vehicle with such a low ground clearance. A Jeep for example could easily climb that but the geometry of it’s suspension is what will make the difference and not the 4wd system.
On camera it doesn't look as steep as it is in person. The hill height is about to the top of the hood on this vehicle. I could start a little more straight on approaching the hill, however the low front bumper is more likely to scrape. You can also see how when it crests the hill it lifts a wheel very high. The reason I prefer this angle is it keeps the vehicle from high centering when cresting the top. I perform the test in the same way with nearly every vehicle I test, which helps for more uniform comparisons across vehicles.
I do some testing off camera to try and figure things out. This system is designed for bad weather on paved and well maintained dirt roads. Lifting wheels off the ground really stresses the system out. Thanks for watching and commenting!
That's why I prefer doing this test on a hill and not flat ground. Many vehicles actually perform quite well on rollers when on flat or close to flat ground. However, when you add a steep slope into the equation most crossovers really struggle.
Most moms don't have to rock crawl on bad roads to pick up the kids or get groceries. You seem to suggest a Jeep alternative or a real lumber wagon such as the RAV-4. I would suggest trying out vehicles for your own needs, and go from there. I would stay away from Honda, and Toyota haters.
Check out my Rav 4 video, nowhere near what the Cherokee Trailhead can do. I test as many vehicles as I can in this one environment, which definitely isn't important to most people.
cold, 'businesslike' interior and uninspired exterior clearly trying to be like Mazda, impractical rocker switches on the steering wheel, big ugly front grille and those useless things on the bumper, along with overall too-long front end -- Honda has totally lost the plot with their redesign. The new HR-V is also a total fail -- they got rid of all the fun, rugged character that SUVs should have and made this boring thing
I disagree with you on some aspects, but that's ok. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This CR-V drives much better than the previous ones I have tested. It actually handles surprisingly well. So while it has a less rugged character, it is more sporty and fun to drive on pavement. The market has pretty much gone to an on road focus for US vehicles in general. I agree with you, I miss the ruggedness of many crossovers/SUVs/Trucks.
Don't knock Mazda's.........My CX30 is a totally great car except for a single glaring fault.......The Drivers seat is absolutely killing Me.........Side bolsters are tall and hard digging in to My legs......Paul
Incredible 4x4! 😮
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I imagine the engineers at Honda never intended for this type of awd test; it’s likely in need of a programming change or “off road” specific drive mode to handle that testing. As one comment said, this car was designed to drive around town with an AWD to “help” occasionally with slick travel conditions. A “trail sport” version of the crv is definitely a cool possibility with revised tuning and a different suspension set up.
Very true, it's a fun test, but this vehicle was really designed for all weather on road use. I agree that a trail sport version would be fun!
I live in a hilly area. The awd is on nearly 100% of the time, about 20% of rear. When it’s cold or raining it often send 50% of power to back
Hey man thanks for the video! I dont understand weird comments, even though we all know this car is not for off roading but still should have been able to pull that one off! Subscribed!
Thanks for watching and for the support! For on pavement all weather driving it should perform well, when you get to really steep stuff, it starts to struggle.
You probably don't have the car anymore, but from other reviews snow mode does the best for these kind of obstacles.
I saw you commented asking about that in the normal review. Sorry it didn't make the video, but I did a little bit in snow mode off camera (didn't want to keep going with how often the system was overheating). In my experience, snow mode made the throttle too dead so it couldn't build enough RPM quickly enough to overcome the braking force on the wheels without traction and have enough torque get to the other wheels to climb the articulation hill. I just had this vehicle a few weeks ago, so I remember clearly and I'm glad you asked now. In a few months I will have forgotten the testing I did off camera.
@@EngineAdventures thx for the info :) Just my 2 cents - What I really liked about the previous gen (also applicable to this one) is that you have all the torque from 0 rpm, which is very convenient. Not quite the low gear trans case, but you can crawl with that car and not having to stress anything like a clutch or a torque converter. Ofc. honda hasn't designed it for that, but for what it is it's a good awd system. The thing I disliked is the hybrid system in case you had to push the car on the highway, basically after few seconds of full throttle the car hits a wall, especially if you have to overtake someone on an incline - you're limited to the charge left in the battery and then your car turns into a 135bhp veggie :) With time you get used to it by engaging sport mode and acting pre-emptively. But it's a great town car, very smooth.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the video! It is great to see the limitations of the car! While wouod be gteat if CRV could handle the off road, as I almost never go off-roading, especially with hybrid cars, I am still very happy with CRV hybrid.
Thanks for watching and commenting!!
This is a commuter vehicle, meant to be a comfortable, reliable daily driver on the road. It's not meant for off roading.
Correct, but now you know what it's capable of if you ever need it. Also this testing very loosely simulates a steep paved road covered in snow as some wheels lose traction.
It’s designed for light off-roading. It’s in the manual
i'm italian and i'm interested in this car..just for have a correct point of view i ask you the power train is 2 liters ? 184 cv right ? i want exclude any different tipe of motorizazion.. i mean i want know if you are testin the same european model...because seams the same but for example , in european model the automatic gearbox does not have a lever for chose but buttons. thank s for your answer
Thanks for watching and commenting! It is the 2.0 liter inline 4 cylinder for this hybrid setup.
Can u test the gas version of crv , hybrid is no good
I'll see what I can do!
Thanks for this test! Now we know what its capable off. Honda needs to improve its off road capabilities!
I think the CRV is best suited for people who spend most of their time on pavement but occasionally venture off-road. It's a great all weather system and wasn't really designed as an offroader
Been waiting for a review like this, thanks! What do you think the performance would have been like with more “bitey” all terrain tires?
Honda awd is the worst in its segment the htrac in Hyundais are top class
@@lilpeppa117G don’t know where you’re getting your info from, but that sounds wildly inaccurate
Thanks for watching and for the support! This test isn't as much about the tires as it is about the vehicle's ability to transfer power to the wheels with traction. When all 4 wheels are spinning at the same rate, then the tires come into play. I do agree that having the right tires for the terrain is extremely important though!
@@chrissiemens be sure to watch my Hyundai Tucson XRT video coming out this Friday to see how the Hyundai does.
@@EngineAdventures Okay right on- working on a project to make a new CR-V into a “softroader” lol
After 26 years of producing the AWD CRV, Honda should have been able to create an AWD system that can quickly send power to the correct wheels and also not overheat in just 30 seconds.
They can, and do. The Ridgeline and Pilot have a really good dual clutch rear differential that performs great. Honda has just gone more and more towards a pavement vehicle with the CRV over the years.
The previous generation didn't have overheating problems with the AWD if I'm not wrong. Sad they didn't improve or at least have the same system as before.
I'd have to go back and watch the video on it. I can't remember which CR-V's I've had, but maybe you found a video I did with the previous gen CR-V hybrid?
@@EngineAdventures ok, I was considering the non hybrid one, but I understand the AWD system is the same, as is not a battery powering the rear wheels.
@@subazealand9158 honestly, I haven't looked into them, but my guess is that the would be similar or the same. However, the different engines could play into that as well. If it's the same system, but one has much more torque at low rpm (hybrid) it may stress the AWD system more.
@ 8:21 connecting A arm is missing a bolt or rubber bushing?
Not @8:21, what part of the video were you talking about? I also didn't notice any issues with this vehicle.
Well I kind of canceled this video. 47K miles in my 2023 CRV I have done numerous of trails and did fine. Again mine is not stock. Definitely reconsider shooting with an equip CRV!
This hill is steeper than it appears on camera. Pretty cool that you do that with your CRV!
You canceled nothing
Probably burned up a half of the center clutch pack doing that little climb.
Yeah, these tests are not easy on the vehicles.
Can you get a Forester Wilderness and a Bronco Sport Badlands from the press fleet?
I want to test both of those. I've only had one chance at a Subaru, but I was unavailable that week. Ford hasn't been sending much the past 2 years or so, hopefully they start getting more stuff out to Utah! I really want to test both of those vehicles!
Honda needs to make a Trailsport version of the CR-V. They are letting Subaru steal most of the light off-roader market.
I haven't tested a wilderness edition Subaru, but the normal Outback I tested wasn't much better than the CR-V.
@@EngineAdventuresJust rewatched your Outback test. If this CR-V Hybrid is a 2/10, the Outback was at least a 3.5/10.
My SK Forester would also struggle on your hill. One of the upper trims with X-Mode type 2 might just make it.
Love the channel!
Thanks for the support! It's certainly fun to run the channel, even if the pay is really bad.
@@EngineAdventures My Outback would have seriously embarrassed this Honda....Paul
@@paulholterhaus7084 I think the outback I tested did a little better than the CR-V, but not a crazy difference.
is it a 1.5litre?
It's a 2.0 liter
IMO if your buying a crv to do off-road trail work than don’t but it at all.
True, but if you happen to find yourself in a tough spot, it's good to know what the capabilities are.
I've been waiting for this vehicle to come as actually I have a Honda vezel. The problem with these hybrid vehicles is that they don't have an off road mode. I recently went on an off roading trip with a friend who has a Jaguar F Pace, I must say that I pity my poor vezel during that off roading trip as I heard so much rattling as if the vezel would sudden break out on the trip. Whereas my friend in his FPace, he just vanished in front of me as his Jaguar had that off road mode. I wished that Honda CRV hybrid or even the Toyota rav 4 Hybrid could have that off road function just to soften that suspension so that we could drive on Rocky roads when going off roading in a once! It's a pity that technology is taking great leap ahead & yet an off road function these car makers couldn't inculcate into these cars! It sucks.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Sometimes it's the vehicle and sometimes it's a driver who doesn't care about breaking their vehicle. I have no doubt the F-Pace is smoother and has less rattles, however it probably has large wheels with small sidewalls, making a puncture more likely at higher speeds.
It would be interesting to see a Model Y on this road to compare it to a CRV
I'd love to test a Tesla, haven't had the chance yet!
2:35 Just shoves the vehicle into the slope. While it appears to be a comically shallow slope to climb that angle of attack is wrong for a vehicle with such a low ground clearance.
A Jeep for example could easily climb that but the geometry of it’s suspension is what will make the difference and not the 4wd system.
On camera it doesn't look as steep as it is in person. The hill height is about to the top of the hood on this vehicle. I could start a little more straight on approaching the hill, however the low front bumper is more likely to scrape. You can also see how when it crests the hill it lifts a wheel very high. The reason I prefer this angle is it keeps the vehicle from high centering when cresting the top. I perform the test in the same way with nearly every vehicle I test, which helps for more uniform comparisons across vehicles.
Awd getting hot why that's normal?
I do some testing off camera to try and figure things out. This system is designed for bad weather on paved and well maintained dirt roads. Lifting wheels off the ground really stresses the system out. Thanks for watching and commenting!
It’s not normal Mazda and Hondas are famous for this they literally copied the look of the cx5 not surprising
@@EngineAdventures Would not have stressed even the cheapest Sibie...........Paul
Honda shouldn’t be able to call it AWD if it keeps overheating!!
In most conditions for most people it will never overheat. This testing is pretty hard on these systems!
Honda awd is the worst in its segment the htrac in Hyundais are top class
I have to disagree, I think it was about par for this class on this course.
@@EngineAdventuresHonda awd is 💩 is can’t do power shifting htrac can
You might as well buy a tuscon, same size suv, cheaper, has full automatic transmission and htrac system
I've tested Kias and Hyundais without much better results. However it's been a little bit, so I don't know if the new ones are better or not.
Did Honda recently update their AWD software?
It did much better in the slip test in this video: ua-cam.com/video/XQMLw-XTrak/v-deo.html
That's why I prefer doing this test on a hill and not flat ground. Many vehicles actually perform quite well on rollers when on flat or close to flat ground. However, when you add a steep slope into the equation most crossovers really struggle.
100% fail in my books.
Compare this vehicle to 100% ICE drive. Which one would you rely on to get you out of this situation?
I really want to test an older, non hybrid, CRV to see how it compares to this. Thanks for watching!
Pitiful exibishion of performance.........A Subie Forester or Mazda CX30 would have had Zero problems.....Paul
I have tested a CX30 and an Outback on this same course. I believe both of them did better than this CR-V. Thanks for watching!
Most moms don't have to rock crawl on bad roads to pick up the kids or get groceries. You seem to suggest a Jeep alternative or a real lumber wagon such as the RAV-4. I would suggest trying out vehicles for your own needs, and go from there. I would stay away from Honda, and Toyota haters.
Check out my Rav 4 video, nowhere near what the Cherokee Trailhead can do. I test as many vehicles as I can in this one environment, which definitely isn't important to most people.
@@EngineAdventures It is exceedingly important to ANYONE wanting to know what They are getting for Their money.........Paul
cold, 'businesslike' interior and uninspired exterior clearly trying to be like Mazda, impractical rocker switches on the steering wheel, big ugly front grille and those useless things on the bumper, along with overall too-long front end -- Honda has totally lost the plot with their redesign. The new HR-V is also a total fail -- they got rid of all the fun, rugged character that SUVs should have and made this boring thing
I disagree with you on some aspects, but that's ok. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This CR-V drives much better than the previous ones I have tested. It actually handles surprisingly well. So while it has a less rugged character, it is more sporty and fun to drive on pavement. The market has pretty much gone to an on road focus for US vehicles in general. I agree with you, I miss the ruggedness of many crossovers/SUVs/Trucks.
6th gen looks fantastic, I had to wait 6 months for mine. The market disagrees with you.
Don't knock Mazda's.........My CX30 is a totally great car except for a single glaring fault.......The Drivers seat is absolutely killing Me.........Side bolsters are tall and hard digging in to My legs......Paul
Why would you test it like its made for off road? Over heating this car for your video purpose when the vehicle is not made for off-roading!
This testing actually shows a lot. While the CR-V can handle snowy roads, steep snowy roads will be problematic.
Suck off-road. Not surprised