Shah Ni'matullah Wali & The Ni'matullahi Sufi Order

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • In this video we talk about the great 14th-15th century saint Shah Ni'matullah Wali and the order that carries his name.
    Sources/Further Reading:
    Dahlén, Ashk (2001). "Sufismen i det moderna Iran". In Levande Sufism. Edited by David Westerlund.
    Graham, Terry (1999) "Shah Ni'matullah Wali: Founder of the Ni'matullahi Sufi Order". In The Heritage of Sufism: Legacy of Medieval Persian Sufism (Volume 2). Edited by Leonard Lewisohn.
    Herman, Denis & Mathieu Terrier (2020). "Shi'i Islam and Sufism: classical views and modern perspectives". I.B. Tauris.
    Nurbakhsh, Javad (1980). "Masters of the Path: a history of the masters of the Nimatullahi sufi order". Khaniqahi-Nimatullahi Publications: New York.
    Pourjavady, Nasrollah (?). "Shah Nematollah Vali: an Heir to Two Mystical Literary Traditions". Article.
    Various (2002). "Celebrating a Sufi Master: A collection of works on the occasion of the First (& Second) international symposium on Shah Nematollah Vali". San Jose State University. Volumes 1 & 2.
    #Nimatullahi #Sufism #Islam

КОМЕНТАРІ • 592

  • @Sabrowsky
    @Sabrowsky 3 роки тому +74

    "no sultan is as lame as Tamerlane".
    There is just something about a 5th grader burn delivered by an incredibly well learned philosopher that hits different

    • @justahumanbeing.709
      @justahumanbeing.709 2 роки тому +1

      lol!

    • @kellysam2076
      @kellysam2076 Рік тому

      WE ALL NEED TO LEARN ABOUT THE AHLUL BAYT. ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO IMAM HOSSAIN AND LADY ZAINAB. MAY ALLAH REWARD THEM BOTH FOR THE SACRIFICES THEY MADE TO SAVE ISLAM FROM THE ALCOHOLIC SADISTIC TYRANT YAZID

    • @Hunnid24
      @Hunnid24 Рік тому +4

      The oldest diss track recorded😂😂

  • @sephirothu1290
    @sephirothu1290 3 роки тому +85

    As a practicing Sufi in Ni'matullahi order, I'm really happy to see you covering all these amazing information about it on UA-cam, thank you so much, God bless you, peace and love from middle east

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  3 роки тому +18

      Always glad to hear positive reactions from people within the traditions I discuss!

    • @zccau2316
      @zccau2316 3 роки тому +1

      Are you Shia?

    • @sephirothu1290
      @sephirothu1290 3 роки тому +16

      @@zccau2316 Yes, But the Shia and Sunni relations are aspects of "Shari'ah" or Islamic religious law, But in Tarighah ( which is the practical spirituality in Islam ) they usually don't care about Shia-Sunni difference at all.

    • @zccau2316
      @zccau2316 3 роки тому +6

      @@sephirothu1290 This is not true at all. Sufism aka Tasawuff has always been a sunni thing. There was no such thing as Sufism in Shia Islam until a much later period after copying the Sunnis. When the Safavids took over Iran and force converted the Sunni Majority to Shia Islam, the first thing they did was kill all the Sufis as they were all Sunni Muslims.
      What you can argue now in terms of what Shia sufis do, is a type of cultural appropriation of something that always has been Sunni.

    • @sephirothu1290
      @sephirothu1290 3 роки тому +21

      ​@@zccau2316 Tasawwuf is the inner dimensions of Islam, existed since the beginning. years before the creation of Sunni-Shia denominations. I've visited many different Sufi orders in my life , none of the masters or sufis had such a view on mysticism, seeing it as the invention of Sunni or Shia muslims, or even caring about who copied the Tariqah from where. all they do is serving god and all beings, dedicating themselves to inner practices, and etc.
      they don't care about the Shia-Sunni thing, historians do.
      Kings and politician did too.

  • @farhanhyder7304
    @farhanhyder7304 3 роки тому +214

    I don't know if you realize it, you're teaching muslims a lot about their religion. Things they themselves didn't know

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  3 роки тому +115

      As long as I don't replace actual Islamic scholars for guidance on living as a Muslim, I am happy to provide knowledge and information!

    • @nskeow
      @nskeow 3 роки тому +9

      @@LetsTalkReligion Yeah I’m learning so much from this channel. A lot of stuff I have never even heard of, even when I was learning about Islam in the mosque as a kid :)

    • @hasananyabwile3538
      @hasananyabwile3538 3 роки тому +8

      That’s a general statement as if all Muslims are ignorant of these matters which is woefully untrue.

    • @hasananyabwile3538
      @hasananyabwile3538 3 роки тому +11

      @@nskeow make sense, your Mosque school was not designed or equipped to deal with wide ranging studies. This is why there are Universities, you can’t be expected to learn University levels of education in Primary school, or do they teach Primary school education in Nursery.
      Stop sounding so foolish....

    • @ahmedmahon2022
      @ahmedmahon2022 3 роки тому +15

      Brother Hasan, this is not a substitute for authentic Islamic scholarship. This is just what it appears to be, a Westerner fascinated with Islam, trying his best to convey information about our religion from a semi-outside perspective. We can use it to further our own understanding of our particular tariqat and approach relations with other sects from a position of knowledge. No one is suggesting we do away with Deoband, Mecca Madina, Najaf, Qom, Al Azhar or Deoband. These are the main centres of Islamic learning. How can our friend here replace them? He is smart enough to know he can never replace them bi Ibnillah.

  • @kuroazrem5376
    @kuroazrem5376 3 роки тому +56

    Please do a video on Mullah Sadra and the School of Isphahan.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  3 роки тому +20

      Getting there! ;)

    • @alhassani626
      @alhassani626 3 роки тому +3

      @@LetsTalkReligion Look by now Mulla Sadr is the most requested

    • @mohamedsyed5977
      @mohamedsyed5977 3 роки тому +1

      Yes please

    • @alm100
      @alm100 3 роки тому +1

      He influence was immense

    • @ohamatchhams
      @ohamatchhams 3 роки тому

      He's Soren Kierkegaard of Islam, before Kierkegaard was even born
      A proto-existentialist Philosopher ahead of Existentialism in Europe, he's also like the more Shi'a iteration of Al Ghazali 5 centuries later

  • @mahastikia9676
    @mahastikia9676 2 роки тому +16

    Thank you for all the good work you're doing on this channel. 🙏💗
    I was in Mahan in 2014 and was lucky to go to the Shah Nematollah mosque. I was even luckier to see his "meditation room" which is apparently not open to tourists. That place is forever etched in my memory!
    And if anyone reading this is planning a trip to Iran, do consider including Kerman (and Mahan, and the Kalouts of Shahdad) in your plans. Won't regret it! 😉

    • @kellysam2076
      @kellysam2076 Рік тому

      WE ALL NEED TO LEARN ABOUT THE AHLUL BAYT. ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO IMAM HOSSAIN AND LADY ZAINAB. MAY ALLAH REWARD THEM BOTH FOR THE SACRIFICES THEY MADE TO SAVE ISLAM FROM THE ALCOHOLIC SADISTIC TYRANT YAZID

  • @cademosley4886
    @cademosley4886 Рік тому +5

    I just read Milad Milani's "Sufism in the Secret History of Persia" and the Ni'matullahi Sufi Order played a leading role. I really recommend this book not only to understand Sufism better, but to understand spiritual thinking in Iran generally and its deep roots in Persian history.

  • @zeldaaachen7200
    @zeldaaachen7200 2 роки тому +15

    “I’ve seen many a king in this world, but
    There is no sultan as lame as Timurlane.”
    - Shah Ni’matullah Wali

  • @seyedrezatalebnia4166
    @seyedrezatalebnia4166 3 роки тому +30

    When you go to sufisim and higher spiritual states , it doesn't matter that you are shitte or sunni or christian ..because the only thing is matter in that state is God , the one ....
    Then these kinds of question about the nature of religion is meaningless basically ..
    After all.. bro .. you are doing a great job specially in this materialistic world that the only thing that matter is show off not a journey within ...
    Thanks for your useful information

    • @xtremeownage2
      @xtremeownage2 3 роки тому +4

      "The Sufi is hanging onto the holy Prophet Muhammad e Mustafa (SAAWS), like Abu Bakr (R)"
      Rumi

    • @amirb3083
      @amirb3083 3 роки тому +3

      @@xtremeownage2 "Molana" or as westerners falsely call "Rumi" was Persian but a Sunni Muslim. Anyways definitely Abu-Bakr is never insulted by Shia Sufis.

    • @SM-zl4zd
      @SM-zl4zd 3 роки тому +8

      This is absolutely false. There is no tasawwuf without Islam, never was. If you take Islam out of the tasawwuf ecquation, you would end up with "something like" stoicism. Stuff like this, uttered mostly by people who know tasawwuf by books or a sheikh without an ijasat, gives tasawwuf a bad rep. There is a concept within tasawwuf which is called "dissolvment of Islam" though - which needs an explenation: an object/thing/concept gets only humanly knowledgable by contrasting it with it's opposit. Now you got two objects, lets call them X and not-X. This is the stage were things begin to be given names, in order to distinguish them. Now if you use the word "Islam" or "deen ul Islam/religion of Islam" you imply that there must be something that is not Islam, or a different religion. This is not possible. Since there is only one God, there is also only one way to serve him (Islam). To keep it short, if you would ask certain Sufi saints which religion they adhere to, they might give an answer such as "I'm a human being". Tasawwuf without islam is fraud.

    • @abdullahshahj7194
      @abdullahshahj7194 3 роки тому +1

      not true, u r just whitewashed

    • @faristasairuv5143
      @faristasairuv5143 3 роки тому +1

      💟💟💟

  • @psychosufi
    @psychosufi 3 роки тому +20

    Wow! I feel oddly touched by your presentation here! I love your videos and I was surprised to see this show up on my feed. I am a darvish initiate of the Nimatullahi tariqah and never expected to see anything about our founder and masters in this series. Alhamdulillah! While I'm familiar with most of what you're saying here, your presentation brought perspective and context to it. Excellent work! There might be one little thing that I found oddly off. My experience has been that music does, indeed, play a very important role in our gatherings. Sema is practically a sacrament and the music is unique and amazing. Dr. Nurbakhsh gave us very formal guidelines for our conduct when engaged in Sema. This might be particular to the khanighas of America or something like that, but its been a major feature of our ritual gatherings in my personal experience. That said, I wouldn't expect anyone who hasn't participated in our orders gatherings to be familiar with this, so the oversight is understandable. Again, wonderful job! I'm a fan of your work! Ya Haqq!

    • @samb1027
      @samb1027 2 роки тому +1

      Are you sunni or shia and do you have a video about How Your tariqa does dhikr

    • @kellysam2076
      @kellysam2076 Рік тому

      WE ALL NEED TO LEARN ABOUT THE AHLUL BAYT. ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO IMAM HOSSAIN AND LADY ZAINAB. MAY ALLAH REWARD THEM BOTH FOR THE SACRIFICES THEY MADE TO SAVE ISLAM FROM THE ALCOHOLIC SADISTIC TYRANT YAZID

    • @kellysam2076
      @kellysam2076 Рік тому +1

      I urge u to learn about karbala

  • @Mic679
    @Mic679 3 роки тому +31

    Found you a month ago. Already became an admirer of you. Im also a very enthusiastic reader of the history of religions especially Islam. Keep reading keep researching and keep spreading knowledge. Thank you brother. Love from India.

    • @kellysam2076
      @kellysam2076 Рік тому

      WE ALL NEED TO LEARN ABOUT THE AHLUL BAYT. ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO IMAM HOSSAIN AND LADY ZAINAB. MAY ALLAH REWARD THEM BOTH FOR THE SACRIFICES THEY MADE TO SAVE ISLAM FROM THE ALCOHOLIC SADISTIC TYRANT YAZID

  • @barca29np
    @barca29np 3 роки тому +24

    Great video as always my friend!!!!!!! You should do a video on sufism in timbuktu. How it arrived and it's golden age there. Just bc i feel like timbuktu is definitely the most forgotten or least talked about Islamic Golden age societies. Peace

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  3 роки тому +7

      Good idea!

    • @raphaelwalterlin1681
      @raphaelwalterlin1681 Рік тому

      @@LetsTalkReligion Concerning West Africa. I‘ve been in Burkina Faso in the beginning of last year and met Sufis belonging to Ançar Dine: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chérif_Ousmane_Madani_Haïdara
      However, there is not much information around, have you ever heard of them?

  • @sap2541
    @sap2541 3 роки тому +12

    To deep down into the history of such philosophy and explain all in short time, All i can say Thankyou very much

  • @barashah1171
    @barashah1171 3 роки тому +6

    as a shia muslim i didnt know shias had sufi silsila.....in Pakistan we shias and sunni respect all sufi saints.....most of sufi saints were syeds (decendants of ahlul bait a.s).
    we consider them neither sunni or shia, sufis saints are considered saints by both shias and sunnis.

    • @xtremeownage2
      @xtremeownage2 3 роки тому +1

      There are no pure Shia Silsilas. Whether Safaviyya, Nimatullahiyya or Bektashiyya, they all are connected to Sunni Awliya. They essentially have gone astray by later generations by adopting Shia beliefs. All true Sufi orders originate within Sunnis. All Silsilas have Sunni Awliya. The pure Silsilas today are Sunni.

    • @Shaq6322
      @Shaq6322 3 роки тому

      @@xtremeownage2 it is not a Shia silsila per se. As a Bangladeshi Sunni muslim living in Sydney, I was initiated as a member of this tariwat in 2013. They never tried to impose Shia doctrine on me.

    • @augustuscaesar7491
      @augustuscaesar7491 3 роки тому +3

      @@xtremeownage2 It is the other way around, there are no pure Sunni Sufi Orders, because all Sufi Orders originate from the Family of the Prophet, from the Infallible Imams. In essence, true Shi’ism and true Sufism are one and the same, the offspring of Imam Ali (as). It is no wonder that many scholars have begun to discover the Shi’i thoughts expressed in the writings of the greatest “Sunni” Sufi saints, such as Ibn Arabi and Rumi, who are in reality crypto-Shi’ites.
      “In the circle of existence,
      the source of life Is Ali
      In both the worlds,
      the pursuit and goal Is Ali
      Had it not ruined the quarter of Faith
      I would have openly revealed,
      The One worshiped by all Is Ali.”
      - Rumi (Shams-i Trabrizi, Quatrain.304)

    • @Eskoteric
      @Eskoteric 10 місяців тому

      @@augustuscaesar7491 Correct

  • @kuroazrem5376
    @kuroazrem5376 3 роки тому +68

    If he dissed Tamerlane, and survived, then it means this guy did have something special about him.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  3 роки тому +17

      Right!?

    • @ihsankamil6279
      @ihsankamil6279 3 роки тому +1

      I don't get Timur. He seems quite pious and yet so genocidal.

    • @kuroazrem5376
      @kuroazrem5376 3 роки тому +2

      @@ihsankamil6279 that's actually normal, and has been for most of human history. The more pious or religious you are, usually the more violent as well.

    • @mustafarehman1580
      @mustafarehman1580 3 роки тому +1

      @@ihsankamil6279 Timur was genocidal But He didn't like to talk about violent things, He used to admire Changiz Khan and Used follow Him as a military leader and at same time very religious.

    • @mustafarehman1580
      @mustafarehman1580 3 роки тому

      @@kuroazrem5376 Timur used to respect Scholars and philosophers

  • @seyedmeghdadtabatabai750
    @seyedmeghdadtabatabai750 Рік тому +3

    One of the most spritually pleasing places that I have been to is the tomb of Shah nematollah Vali in the city of Mahan. There was a grand Sufi master called Ayatollah Sa'edi in Mashad, where I used to live. He was a nice man with nice folllowers. May he rest in peace

  • @barashah1171
    @barashah1171 3 роки тому +13

    you shared an urdu translation of his work....he is equally revered by sunnis and shias of pakistan...thanks

  • @Peanuts76
    @Peanuts76 2 роки тому +5

    Your channel sir enlighten us Muslims that there's so much Islamic views and great Philosopher outside our standard Islamic Jurispudence and Fiqh,.....
    Salute!!!

  • @elmassa1007
    @elmassa1007 3 роки тому +12

    I've been there in Mahan. beautiful place! As many pilgrims as tourists being present there, was surprising to me.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  3 роки тому +5

      Would love to visit some day

    • @elmassa1007
      @elmassa1007 3 роки тому +1

      @@LetsTalkReligion me too. seems like a life time ago. and I can't go back there. pigs have taken over the farm.

  • @paythom8860
    @paythom8860 3 роки тому +2

    Whatever ur reliogion may be ur approach is excellent ,ethical, well mannered ,clear, understandable.

  • @SunnyVisions
    @SunnyVisions 3 роки тому +6

    Great video as usual! I hope to see a chisti tariqa video soon

  • @7979ice
    @7979ice 3 роки тому +2

    i love your videos..you always explain complicated things to make easy to understand..thank you with love from algeria💪🏽😍❤️🇩🇿

  • @als1438
    @als1438 3 роки тому +6

    Thank you for the video. It definitely increased my knowledge about the Ni'matullahi order about which I new very little. I contacted you once over face book to make rather a kind of comparative video about Gnosticism/ Gnostic Christianity and Islam in general and especially within Sufism. Like what are similarities and what are the differences. Because I think there are a lot of Gnostic elements within Islamic Esotericism. And I'm glad that you are going to make a video about Bektashi Order and Alevism, but please point out the differences here because many people think its the same thing but it is not so.

  • @RR-nk7tz
    @RR-nk7tz 3 роки тому +21

    Love form Iran ❤️

  • @shujaatalisayyad5532
    @shujaatalisayyad5532 3 роки тому +5

    My mother is from the lineage of Syed Shah Niamatullah Hussaini. When his son Syed Shah Khalillulah Hussaini migrated to Bidar, India (Deccan) as per the request of Bahaman Shah (Bahamani Order). His lineage is still lives in India and mostly are practicing Sunnis.

    • @marjanmerah3495
      @marjanmerah3495 3 роки тому +1

      So Ni'matullah Sufi order in India still Sunni?

    • @sarcasmsage6044
      @sarcasmsage6044 3 роки тому

      @@marjanmerah3495 no such order remains at this point of time because there is heavy influence of Chishti Sufi order on Sunnis in India which is mostly orthodox sufi order.

  • @ShobeirSheida
    @ShobeirSheida 3 роки тому +8

    Not sure why this one was unlisted and has so few views ...

  • @TarekMidani
    @TarekMidani 3 роки тому +19

    That's quite interesting. I'm surprised I never heard of him before 🥺 I like to mirror his kindness to animals

  • @sutarjokomar9384
    @sutarjokomar9384 3 роки тому +4

    Indonesian here. Enjoy your video on Sufism so much!
    Please do take a look at Sufism in Indonesia. You can start with the story of Wali Sanga (The Nine Saints) & Syekh Siti Djenar. To put it simply, Siti Djenar is a rogue sufi saint that confronts the more conservative Wali Sanga. Wali Sanga tried to put down Siti Djenar because his teaching is deemed to be "too iconoclastic & borderline heresy", sometimes Siti Djenar is compared to Al-Hallaj.
    In the end, one of the Wali Sanga managed to kill Siti Djenar, but no one really knows of how Siti Djenar really died. Some said he attained "Moksha" so no one can find his body, other said his dead body bloomed into beautiful & fragrant flowers, some said lights as bright as sun emanates from his body when his followers tried to bury him. Yes so many version!
    It's just a single story from the Island of Java and there's a lot more sufi figures from other islands of Indonesia. Like, Hamzah Fansuri & Syekh Abdurrauf Sinkili from Sumatra, and more
    I recommend Geertz's "Religion of Java", Woodward "Java, Indonesia, and Islam" & Munir Mulkhan "Syekh Siti Jenar" (only avb. In Bahasa Indonesia).
    Again, thank you so much!

    • @pellesvansl
      @pellesvansl Рік тому

      went to Indonesia 1990...all wome dressed in beautiful traditional clothings...no I see them wearing this Arab fashion and looking stupid...such a pity to trade their own cultural heritage to something..so why are they not content with their own Sufism?

  • @ajakislakisweah4889
    @ajakislakisweah4889 3 роки тому +1

    I come from a country in which we only have and practice suni shaafi’i teaching so all these is new to me

  • @Jazzgriot
    @Jazzgriot 3 роки тому +2

    Watching all your talks, your very clear, if not always accurate. I watched your video on Naqshbandi, it was a lot different to my experience as a once practicing Naqshbandi, I actually felt that it was not as orthodox as some other very rigid interpretations, but that's my only criticism of the video. I never got too involved because I don't agree with the worship of Sheikhs, never the less the multi-racial group of Dervishes I met in the tariqah where some of the most sincere, humble, open, kind, friendly, generous, and loving people I have encountered on average, and I have dwelt with several tariqahs, since the mid 1970's. Anyway no big thing, keep up the good work dude. JZK.

    • @Qamartalk
      @Qamartalk 6 місяців тому

      If im not wrong i understand what you looking for ! I requmend you study shah naimatullahi order . This for all religions all race all gander and for all colours as well and not boundaries like other order have .

  • @notadane
    @notadane 3 роки тому +6

    8:53 you say he wrote in Persian, but display an Urdu text. Seems like a meditation on God, and a description of his qualities.

    • @manahil558
      @manahil558 2 роки тому +3

      Lol! I thought since when I started understanding Persian as I speak Urdu!

  • @aamir1290
    @aamir1290 3 роки тому +2

    I think another reason the order was able to transition to Shia Islam was the fact that most sufi orders view Imam Ali (a.s.) and Imam Hussien (a.s.) similar to how shias view them

  • @emanjewels7588
    @emanjewels7588 Рік тому +1

    Salam
    Hi,
    can you please kindly advice whats the background music in This video.
    Thanks

  • @Eskoteric
    @Eskoteric 10 місяців тому

    I can't thank you enough for this magnificent presentation. SO well made

  • @yousseforhan
    @yousseforhan 3 роки тому +3

    I look forward to your introduction/session on the Bekdashi order. I once heard it's origin is in the Balkan and that one of the Egyptian prince who declined the throne around the first world war followed the same order yet I'm not sure what characterizes Bekdashi order from others?

  • @lapidus9552
    @lapidus9552 3 роки тому +6

    I'd love to see you do a video on the Bektashi's.

  • @chef1arjunaidi
    @chef1arjunaidi 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for educating us on this saint. He was indeed correct to tell his followers to take up a profession. Islam does not encourage ascetic practices.

  • @sosighedtea
    @sosighedtea 3 роки тому +9

    Always look forward to your uploads. Can you by any chance do a video on Sir Allama Muhammad Iqbal?

  • @ramtilaakchintu8863
    @ramtilaakchintu8863 3 роки тому +3

    Wonderful and very insightful video as always, really like these lil nuggets of history you present us with!

  • @alexpetrov3933
    @alexpetrov3933 3 роки тому +11

    Great video,really enjoyed it! You mentioned Tamerlane,in this video,some say he was one the most powerful Naqshbandi masters,and others considered him as tyrant, it would be great if you would make some video about him!Thanks!!!

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  3 роки тому +5

      Most of his political advisors were Naqshbandis, so there is definitely a connection!

    • @alexpetrov3933
      @alexpetrov3933 3 роки тому +1

      @@LetsTalkReligion you right definitely there’s connection, if I’m not making mistake,his spiritual mentor,was sayyid Baraka, one of Naqlshbandi Tariqat
      masters.Anyways looking forward for more of your videos greatly appreciate it!!!

  • @hesamsalimi2594
    @hesamsalimi2594 3 роки тому +1

    Really enjoyed that heard about one of my masters but I expected you to mention his prediction too... anyway, thanks a million.

  • @8pynky879
    @8pynky879 3 роки тому +1

    Lover and Beloved,
    Desire and Desired,
    Seeker and Sought,
    are one;
    So beautiful and liberating!
    💖

  • @TheMjr007
    @TheMjr007 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the hard work for us, giving a nice video

  • @leaaba2965
    @leaaba2965 3 роки тому +2

    the death of tabandeh was so sad , he died like a hero , I was waiting for him to give up since our govenment buys everyone but this person was honestly following his belief

  • @SoldieroftheImam313
    @SoldieroftheImam313 3 роки тому +3

    Can you make a video about Shaykh Baha'uldeen Al Amili, he was a Shia scholar, Mystic, Philosopher, Architect, Astronomer and mathematician. And he's the reason Iran is Shia today, and he claimed Sufis are the real Muslims but he still followed the Shia Sharia strictly, he also appears in the chain of both the Nurbakhshi and Ni'matullāhī Sufi orders.

  • @muhammadsulaiman1361
    @muhammadsulaiman1361 Рік тому +1

    Such a great work!
    Love and support, by Nura KC Nigeria 🇳🇬

  • @mammadcrown4366
    @mammadcrown4366 3 роки тому +8

    I'm from Kerman, and you thought me more about him today than I l'd ever learnt living literally 30 minutes away from his tomb.

  • @asimnaqvi40
    @asimnaqvi40 3 роки тому +3

    Hi, please make video on Imam Husain and event of Karbala.

  • @zeldaaachen7200
    @zeldaaachen7200 2 роки тому +3

    “I perceive all the professors of exoteric knowledge to be full of learning with no applicatiom Day and night wasting their lives, pursuing discussion, chatter, and empty disputation” Shah Ni’matullah Wali

  • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
    @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts 3 роки тому +1

    Every day you upload is a happy day for me!

  • @nadjiguemarful
    @nadjiguemarful 3 роки тому +7

    Timur is a strange character to me I read an account of his campaigns and life, he seems to have had one part of his soul in the brutal old mongol nomad culture, and the other his father entrenched in the acknowledgement of the Divine.. And he seems to pay tribute to both sides with equal intensity lol

  • @rachoner
    @rachoner 3 роки тому +2

    There are brilliant Nimatullahi poems
    with musical background on UA-cam I suggest all of you to search for them.
    Another established Shii Sufi order would be the Oveisi, itself also divided in several branches.

    • @zeldaaachen7200
      @zeldaaachen7200 3 роки тому

      How to find them ?!

    • @rachoner
      @rachoner 3 роки тому

      @@zeldaaachen7200here is one of them ua-cam.com/video/68BITHWAvFk/v-deo.html

  • @salmanalfaransy6991
    @salmanalfaransy6991 3 роки тому +10

    Could you make a video about Salman al Farisi al Mohammadi and his status in shi'ism and sufism ? It would be interesting to share

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  3 роки тому +1

      It's possible! I'll write it down! :)

    • @user-ox1mv7bw3u
      @user-ox1mv7bw3u 3 роки тому +3

      Salman Al Farisi is a companion of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH just one of the companions, he has nothing to do with sufism or shiism to be clear. Those sects are inventing fake stories about him as they invented their own Philisophies away from Qur'an and Sunnah.

    • @investigativeforensicscien4622
      @investigativeforensicscien4622 3 роки тому

      @@user-ox1mv7bw3u n

    • @mclovinjr9086
      @mclovinjr9086 3 роки тому +3

      @@user-ox1mv7bw3u Stop lying.

    • @PureExistence1
      @PureExistence1 3 роки тому +1

      @@user-ox1mv7bw3u theres a hadith that goes: If Abu Dhar knew what Salman knew, he'd kill him", meaning, Salman's spiritual knowledge was so deep and far beyond what most others knew, that Abu Dhar would think it heresy and kill him...
      Seems to be that the more Tawheed-i a person gets in their spiritual path and practice, the more distant they get from the typical outwardly understanding of "God is One" they get, and that scares some people.

  • @thethickandthin
    @thethickandthin 3 роки тому +5

    I am not sure why you haven't included his predictions and Qasida which is quite detailed and best literature for future predictions, another aspect of Sufism

  • @talchalak8036
    @talchalak8036 3 роки тому

    Thank you for making and sharing this. It is informative and especially interesting in the panentheistic basis of this order. .

  • @alexandremariano9935
    @alexandremariano9935 3 роки тому +7

    Just waiting your Instagram Profile for this channel. I really appreciate your job here!

  • @pofaknamaki8847
    @pofaknamaki8847 3 роки тому +1

    The base of Persian sufism is chivalry, compassion, love and service to humanity. It goes back to long before Islam. The first Sufi being Adam.

  • @asimnaqvi40
    @asimnaqvi40 3 роки тому +1

    Please make detailed video on twelver shias. And beliefs

  • @dortoka
    @dortoka 3 роки тому +7

    Did you ever have a video up on Bektashism/Alevism? I swear you had one up but I can't find it anywhere

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  3 роки тому +11

      I did yes, but took it down because it caused some misunderstandings. Will probably do another one at some point!

    • @iuliaforje7175
      @iuliaforje7175 3 роки тому +4

      I'm sorry Filip you had to experience the bad and ugly. Sadly, for many it is a controversial subject being many times tied to political legitimacy/ethnicity, which makes it even more important to shed light unto it. The Turkish government still doesn't see alevi cem evis as places of worship. Alevis have been subjected to several pogroms in Dersim, Sivas, Maraş... The Bektashis were expulsed after the fall of the janissaries and oppresed by communist regimes. I'm sure you will be able to explain things in the clear and objective manner you always do.

    • @alexalpine4490
      @alexalpine4490 3 роки тому +1

      @@LetsTalkReligion I would love to see a new one!

  • @shahnazali4000
    @shahnazali4000 3 роки тому

    Very good explanation...Your tone of voice and speed with which you speak is understandable by all.
    Well done!
    You are very knowledgeable and have taken pains in your research.
    Thanks

  • @arianakhan6665
    @arianakhan6665 3 роки тому +5

    The Nimatullahi Order was once very powerful in Iran, and formed a close relationship with Isma'ilism and the Isma'ili Imams of Khorosan, which was heavily influenced by Sufism and in particular the Nimatullahi Order.

    • @QED_
      @QED_ 2 роки тому

      Does Nimatullahi Order . . . teach the "Lataif" (?)

  • @finnotis6892
    @finnotis6892 3 роки тому +5

    Could you do a video on Simone Weil. A lot of what she has to say about annihilating the ego or the "I", as she calls it, and other metaphysical ideas expressed in her work Gravity and Grace bear a striking resemblance to Wahdat al-wujud.

  • @skyofwisdom
    @skyofwisdom 3 роки тому +3

    Awesome video. Do you consider doing a video on the relationship between Shia Islam and Sufism? Seems to be an important area for research.

  • @barca29np
    @barca29np 3 роки тому +12

    Also it shouldn't surprise people there are shia sufis, after all you can be either shiite or sunni (don't think there are ibadi sufis that i know of) and there's no issue. In fact there are sufi orders that have both shias and sunnies together.

    • @blacksheep6174
      @blacksheep6174 3 роки тому

      Back then Shia and Suni were Just Political division (like who will be successor that all) it was never abiut aqedah

    • @barca29np
      @barca29np 3 роки тому +2

      @@blacksheep6174 it seems so. Let's give our thanks to al haqq that today there are some orders that accept both chiites and sunnis. Like the kubrawiya in India. May peace be upon all Muslims that accept peace. And may peace be upon the whole world. We need to put an end to sectarianism

    • @blacksheep6174
      @blacksheep6174 3 роки тому +1

      @@barca29np Well Iran was Hanafi before safavids . And safavid version of Shia is different than actual Jafri Shia tul Ali.

    • @ranro7371
      @ranro7371 3 роки тому +1

      There are no shia sufis because of the Imamate. Sufi orders have their own imams, Shia believe in occultation.

    • @barca29np
      @barca29np 3 роки тому +1

      @@ranro7371 Salam, that is not the case. There are several shia sufi tariqas
      Qalandariyyah
      Hurufiya
      Safaviyaa
      Etc

  • @monamak8271
    @monamak8271 Рік тому

    My great great grandfather on my mother's side was a Sufi master. he was known as taooso urafa. thanks for your work.

  • @kaleemsahab6930
    @kaleemsahab6930 3 роки тому +2

    Plz make video on shams tabrez

  • @shadbakht
    @shadbakht 3 роки тому +7

    Interesting hearing an Arabic pronunciation of Persian terms and names :)

  • @brianian2313
    @brianian2313 8 місяців тому

    Tq for the information on shah nimatullah . Appreciate if you can talk more on imam ghazalli.

  • @ghalibshah3211
    @ghalibshah3211 9 місяців тому +1

    Shah Naimatullah r.a. predicted many incidents that impacted earth. If You would kindly study "Qaseeda Naimatullah Shah Wali" and make a video,it would be great and informative.

  • @zulfizakarya5703
    @zulfizakarya5703 3 роки тому +6

    *brother you forgot to mention his predictions about future*
    Not a single prediction is wrong

    • @zeldaaachen7200
      @zeldaaachen7200 3 роки тому +1

      What were his predictions ?

    • @amirb3083
      @amirb3083 3 роки тому

      @@zeldaaachen7200 it's long series of poems which all came true .

    • @amirb3083
      @amirb3083 3 роки тому +1

      @@tamziid Sorry bro. if you google it in Persian is not hard to find but I couldn't find it's translated one.

  • @syednaveed5521
    @syednaveed5521 3 роки тому

    I enjoy your videos very much. Your research and passion is very obvious.
    Its very interesting to me that there is a common pattern to beliefs in all religions and sects

  • @kazima313
    @kazima313 3 роки тому +1

    Great channel. Great job. Please could you make a video about Shorawari and illumination school. It's not a easy goal.

  • @RAZO3
    @RAZO3 3 роки тому +1

    Love your videos
    Would like it if you would consider making a video on Noorbakshi order as well

  • @prasanthmovva
    @prasanthmovva 3 роки тому +1

    So nicely said.. same we see in Sanathan Dharma, Brahmam is a Sea.. icebergs are his manifestations taken form for the sake of his causeless mercy to share bliss for who seeks only Divine in the form they pray.
    That's polytheism which is actually pluralism in reality.

  • @gdebouillon
    @gdebouillon 3 роки тому +1

    Could you make a video o Imam Khomeini and his gnosticism?

  • @mohammadkhalidkhan4637
    @mohammadkhalidkhan4637 3 роки тому +1

    The document shown @8:52 can't be a writing of Shah Ni'matullah as it's in Urdu not Farsi. Moreover it's prose rather than poetry. However it's talking about what appears to be Wahdat ul wajood so it could be a translation of his Farsi work.

  • @mansuromeiza1914
    @mansuromeiza1914 3 роки тому +1

    Hay bro, what about Tariqat Tijjani order?

  • @holzkraft9060
    @holzkraft9060 3 роки тому +3

    Could you do a video abaut Scheich Nazim al haqqani al naqshibandi. Thank you.

  • @muslim5067
    @muslim5067 Рік тому

    Love this guy. He is not biased because he does not belong to any Sufi order and thus expose the magic or occult science that are practiced by he sufies as well. Many sufies are in denial about the Magic they are taught and believe everything they see are miracles. Thank you Filip.

  • @awalo6912
    @awalo6912 3 роки тому +1

    Hi when will you talk about sheikh Ahmadou bamba from senegal? Thanks

  • @ramkitty
    @ramkitty 3 роки тому

    Keep up the fantastic work; Amazing diverse channel for non partisan comparative religion (especially paired with esoterica). Ni'amtullahi unity of being feels similar to thunder perfect mind.

  • @CCCP_Again
    @CCCP_Again 3 роки тому +2

    research as brilliant as always!

  • @mythbuster9743
    @mythbuster9743 3 роки тому +1

    U havent discussed his poeatic predictions... which he is famous for in sufi orders today ? If u could plz make a video on it..

  • @TheForeignersNetwork
    @TheForeignersNetwork 3 роки тому +1

    I love your videos! Would you be willing to make a video about Sufism and ganja? I've noticed that in Pakistan smoking is very common at Sufi shrines, which I find super interesting

  • @oldmusicstudio3484
    @oldmusicstudio3484 3 роки тому +3

    Shah Nematullah was born in my city in the past, his house and his school and even his place of prayer are still there, he has made many prophecies, all of which have come true so far.

  • @torbjornlekberg7756
    @torbjornlekberg7756 3 роки тому +1

    Sounds very similar to buddhism to me. Not identical to it, but there are significant similar aspects.
    A very interesting interpretation of Islam, I must say.

    • @Qamartalk
      @Qamartalk 6 місяців тому +1

      It’s kinda buddhism but not buddhism . This is order mostly seeking divine love through human beings Which is so beautiful . And it’s true anyone welcomed on this oder no race colours genter or religion requires . ❤

    • @torbjornlekberg7756
      @torbjornlekberg7756 6 місяців тому

      @@Qamartalk I like it. That is how it should be.

  • @aquibshaikh8611
    @aquibshaikh8611 3 роки тому +1

    please make a video on Ibn Taymiah

  • @RobertGuilman
    @RobertGuilman 3 роки тому +1

    Yo Eminem watch out, Sheikh Nimatullahi dropping disses track like nobody business

  • @omarakhtar3075
    @omarakhtar3075 3 роки тому +1

    I've recently discovered this channel and am very impressed with the content and a big part of that is the effort you put into pronouncing the words correctly. Well done young man, one thing has been bothering me about this video though, when you say "shi'i" it really puts me off. I've never heard this word before but could easily infer it's meaning, I wonder though why you use that term instead of "shi'ite"?

  • @letsreact000
    @letsreact000 3 роки тому +1

    LITTLE SAME WITH NAQASHBANDIYYA SILSLA .
    GREAT WORK REALLY I APPRECIATE YOU ❤️😌
    Plz can you make a vedio on allama muhammad iqbaal ,he is one of great ,poet , phliospher, theorist and for me he is one the great sufi and SPRITUAL MAN of the modern era.

  • @KaleemMyster
    @KaleemMyster 3 роки тому +1

    Will you do videos about Ismaili (aga khan branch), Mormonism or Jehovah witness?

  • @samsmith6279
    @samsmith6279 3 роки тому +1

    MashaAllah just discovered this channel and it's amazing.
    Have you covered West African Tarikas? That would be amazing.

  • @jahannsaid5263
    @jahannsaid5263 3 роки тому +1

    Can you please do a video on the Mi'raj that would be greatly appreciated thank you

  • @bajramtahiri1576
    @bajramtahiri1576 3 роки тому +2

    The Bektashi Sufi order founded by Haji Bektash Veli also has many similarities with Shia Islam and Bektashis are Shias because they believe in Imam Ali so not all sufis are Sunnis

    • @noohrk8741
      @noohrk8741 3 роки тому +1

      Yes a true shia but not a rafzi

  • @assadnite8429
    @assadnite8429 3 роки тому +1

    @Lets Talk Religion. Did the Sufis conceal ancient wisdom that was pre-Islamic ?

    • @jeffmiller6025
      @jeffmiller6025 3 роки тому +1

      I think would be more accurate to say that all religions influence one another to some extent, and that many Sufis were more open/interested in the Qur’anic affirmation of all “prophets” who taught the same thing, but in the languages of their people. Within Sufisms of this kind, “languages,” as I’ve been taught, means not just Arabic, or Sanskrit, or Chinese, but also philosophical languages, mythological languages, etc.
      And so, paraphrasing a rather ritually conservative Naqshbandi Sufi teacher I’ve met, “Muhammad and Buddha taught the same thing, but used different mythologies and philosophies to do so. The only reason you see a difference between the Qur’an and the Sutras is because you’re not paying attention. And as the Qur’an says, ‘there is no difference between them,’ which also means no hierarchy. One is not better than the other. It’s just that our teaching lineage flows from Muhammad. That’s the difference.” He doesn’t shy away from quoting the Sutras (he seems to especially love the Prajnaparamita Sutras), the Bhagavad Gita, or the Daodejing (among others) in his lectures.
      So to say Sufism “concealed” ancient pre-Islamic wisdom is incorrect. It is more accurate, I believe, to say that Muhammad and the great Sufi masters taught the same wisdom, just using different languages. Adapting their teaching to the moment, to the needs of their students. And not shying away from using the languages of other prophets and saints, if they were appropriate.
      There is only one Reality, but our relationships with it differ to some degree, and are always culturally coded and context dependent. Good teachers adapt to be able to communicate in and through various cultures and contexts.

    • @assadnite8429
      @assadnite8429 3 роки тому +1

      @@jeffmiller6025
      Thank you, this was beautiful. Have you ever read the writings of Ibn Wahshiyya?

    • @assadnite8429
      @assadnite8429 3 роки тому

      @@jeffmiller6025
      He was a Sufi Master.

    • @jeffmiller6025
      @jeffmiller6025 3 роки тому

      @@assadnite8429 I’m so glad if anything I said is of service! And I had not heard of Ibn Wahshiyya, but just did a quick Google search... he sounds rad. Thank you for mentioning him!!

  • @ammaramsyar7867
    @ammaramsyar7867 3 роки тому +5

    So he's basically a Hufflepuff who once disses a king.

  • @harmahashim7793
    @harmahashim7793 3 роки тому +1

    Didn't mentioned his prediction's of which he is more famous ...

  • @rozinadinaa
    @rozinadinaa 3 роки тому +1

    Hi there, thanks for this informative video.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks for watching it!

    • @rozinadinaa
      @rozinadinaa 3 роки тому +1

      @@LetsTalkReligion My pleasure. Such a good and productive channel you have..

  • @potwari
    @potwari Рік тому

    Great presentation. The Chishti order is much less understood today. Perhaps it might be worth covering that too?

  • @gd9122
    @gd9122 3 роки тому +1

    Could you please consider making a video about the Sadiye Order.

  • @culiohulio1
    @culiohulio1 3 роки тому +10

    I would love to see a video on the life and teachings of Sarmad Kashani, his life was interesting to say the least (originally an Arminian Persian speaking Jew, converted to Islam (sufi path) and eventually took up Hinduism near the end of his life). He was also beheaded by Aurangzeb for apparently making his older brother a devoted follower of him!

    • @iuliaforje7175
      @iuliaforje7175 3 роки тому +1

      What an interesting person!

    • @syedmoazzam5413
      @syedmoazzam5413 3 роки тому +4

      He never became hindu. He was a majzoob sufi so he never actually follow proper sharia. And when he was beheaded by Aurangzeb his tounge recited kalma e shahada. And in many books it is written that his tounge also receited some Quranic verses too.