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  • Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
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    INDEX:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:16 - What is Sub Cut?
    01:33 - Audio Demos
    02:56 - The U.I
    03:14 - Disclosure
    03:49 - Testing
    05:39 - HPF Tutorial
    06:59 - Plugin Doctor
    07:52 - Conclusion
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  • @chrismackenzie92
    @chrismackenzie92 Рік тому +11

    Gotta say I think you're totally missing the point of this plugin - it's a auto moving HPF based on the detected root note. That actually sounds very useful to me.

  • @ferromontanino
    @ferromontanino Рік тому +84

    Here's an example : in Serum when making a Reese bass, if you simply turn up Unison your fundamental is now phasing and is inconsistent. The fix is to go into the wavetable editor and run the "Remove Fundamental" action, and then reintroduce the pure fundamental with the Sub oscillator. This creates a perfect Reese with totally solid sub. This was only possible because Serum offers this feature. To do this manually with a HPF - how do you know where to set the filter? You have to listen to every note in the bassline, calculate the lowest first harmonic above fundamental and ensure your HPF includes it. What if you change your bassline - now you have to recalculate this. Honestly this plugin very much solves issues with layering!

    • @Sirius-qr4vu
      @Sirius-qr4vu Рік тому +10

      surfer EQ can do this as well

    • @metaphysx_625
      @metaphysx_625 Рік тому +32

      almost every modern synth offers high-pass-filters and keytracking which would be the more failsave way to achieve this anyway.
      35€ for a high-pass-filter connected to a tuner seem snake oily to me

    • @SanctusKain
      @SanctusKain Рік тому +6

      @@metaphysx_625 Indeed. You are 100% sir. This plugin is complete bs.

    • @slash196
      @slash196 Рік тому +7

      Automatic filter shifting based on key detection is a pretty good idea if well executed. THIRTY FIVE DOLLARS WORTH? No.

    • @efeh61
      @efeh61 Рік тому +5

      you don't need to calculate nothing. just highpass everything bellow 150hz like a normal person, those are the frequencies that clash the most

  • @VTOLfreak
    @VTOLfreak Рік тому +17

    The auto function could be useful if you don't want to bother with automation. You should have experimented more with that since that's about the only thing that could make this plugin worth getting.

  • @NikoBased
    @NikoBased Рік тому +43

    Yeah this plug-in is fine. Guys who don't make electronic music don't understand. He understands why you would high pass a distorted guitar sound, but doesn't understand why you would high pass a bassline. You might think "well why not just bump one of your oscillators up an octave in the sound design process instead?". This is purely about getting a clean fundamental after using unison/detune/reverb on bass sounds. Some synthesizers allow you to remove the fundamental from specific oscillators (like serum), but most don't. Also, lots of sound design plugins don't have linear phase, and are always running in a low latency mode (like OTT, or other Multiband anything), that completely mauls your fundamental. You would want to high pass that sound, and add a new fundamental. This plugin is being purchased for the tracking feature on auto-mode. Removing the fundamental from the signal instead of a simple EQ cut and automate is a time saver.

    • @budgetguitaristcom
      @budgetguitaristcom Рік тому

      Very well explained - thanks!

    • @anteshell
      @anteshell Рік тому +1

      Yes, but no. Literally the only useful feature on this is the auto tracking. That is the only thing, because everything else you can already do with your stock plugins. But it's not much of a time saver if singular the time saver feature don't work as it should. Making one short automation per sample is faster than having to tweak this until you get the least bad outcome from it, and in the case of longer riff or melody, you can do automation by tracking the midi notes and then render the automation to audio or use automation and audio track separately. The latter is not necessarily faster but fast enough with perfectly reliable outcome.
      TLDR; The usefulness of this plugin comes solely from the auto tracking feature, but because it doesn't work, the plugin doesn't work.

    • @cholkymilkmirage4984
      @cholkymilkmirage4984 Рік тому

      so basically it cleans things up?

    • @reginaldtechno
      @reginaldtechno Рік тому +1

      Orrr just use EQ or a basic filter. 😅

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 Рік тому

      @@cholkymilkmirage4984 Sorta, not really, but also yes. It for confining the instrument into it's own space. Which does eventually serve the end goal of cleaning things up. Boosting the octave of the original instrument doesn't confine anything, it just moves it to another frequency space. A high pass that removes the fundamental but keeps the 'distortions' is a 'psychoacoustical' technique that causes someones brain to assume a low frequency where it doesn't exist, effectively trapping an instrument in a frequency range to allow more room for others, while also allowing it to seemingly exist in a frequency range it has been filtered out of. When you do this, you can have multiple instruments seeming to exist in the same frequency window while not actually stepping on each other or talking over each other.

  • @Derpcat
    @Derpcat Рік тому +4

    From my experience with keytracking a HPF in many plugins to get rid of the fundamental freq it is a pain in the ass and I can clearly say it is NOT snake oil, the auto mode seems to work extremely well and its an easy and instant tool esp for more melodic music. would u really prefer to automate the freq of the HPF to cut the fundamental every time? I'm not sure, I wouldn't wanna do that its kind of painful. so this tool IS useful, maybe they can make the full price 35$ rather than 50, but I don't know any eq that can do it this easily (Uvi Shade does a decent job but still does take some setting up to do)
    And for future reviews you could maybe just use an instrument, and something melodic than a static sub for comparison, aswell as trying to remake what the Effect does with other FX.
    Hopefully you'll see this as positive feedback and let me know a thought or two of yours.

  • @5adb0i
    @5adb0i Рік тому +7

    Haven't tried the plugin bc I have no need for it; however, I do see a use case for this. It's in the plugin text description you go over- LAYERING. Many times when layering many stacks of synths a simple and cheap tool that can remove the fundamental and track the pitch over note changes can be extremely useful for putting on a Synth Stack bus and leaving the rest to the Subs you create, while maintaining a certain level of consistency in the sound design.

  • @Lollokowns
    @Lollokowns Рік тому +28

    I think it is meant to cut the fundamental automatically so you can add another bass sound just for the fundamental (e.g. sine wave or low distortion 808)..

  • @trevortjes
    @trevortjes Рік тому +20

    Only thing I am mildly intrigued by is that when the auto mode actually works, it apparently tracks the pitch of the (sub)bass and removes low frequency energy accordingly for a more even feeling. So I imagine it turns into a fundamental following cutter then.

    • @DJayFreeDoo
      @DJayFreeDoo Рік тому +1

      only way that is useful is for sidechain. instead of ducking, cutting the lows is an option which can be equally as invisible if not better

    • @markbeling3330
      @markbeling3330 Рік тому

      Very much like surfer eq

    • @fightinggamesforever3364
      @fightinggamesforever3364 Рік тому +1

      which I'm pretty sure you can do with the melda autofilter, which is free.

    • @beat_spot
      @beat_spot Рік тому +1

      that's the reason why you want this plugin.

    • @DJayFreeDoo
      @DJayFreeDoo Рік тому

      @@beat_spot i have done the same with other plugins but it just sounds unnatural to me. A basic highpass filter will already cut more the lower the frequency is and less the higher it is. Having the filter moving around just makes the sound move around in the mix instead of staying where i placed it. I dunno, but its not for me.

  • @JackMajor
    @JackMajor Рік тому +5

    I have been experimenting with morphing two bass signals (Hardstyle kick with a Slap House bass) and the outcome sounds dope, but the main point of that process is to ensure the accuracy of the crossover frequency being good enough to sound full and compliment one another. The Auto function would solve the issue of maintaining the fundamental content of the bass when pitching the kick, sometimes even above 7 semitones to which a static HPF would likely diminish the characteristics in those ranges.
    The use case of this plugin is better suited for creative producers than mix or mastering engineers who'd rarely need to do a HPF on a track (unless they have individual stems). As the marketing text says, it's meant for relayering basses where changes in pitch can destroy the sound pitch-based changes are crucial for the bass sounds to compliment the signal correctly.

    • @stnhls
      @stnhls Рік тому +1

      you can do it in midi with surfer EQ or bass exorsist :)

  • @mollygriswold7979
    @mollygriswold7979 Рік тому +3

    The Auto function is nice though.

  • @fredtimothy940
    @fredtimothy940 Рік тому +17

    I would like to see how this compares to Sound Radix Surfer EQ and the EQ in Izotope Nectar. I believe both of those can follow melodic pitches too, and for parametric bands, not just filters.

    • @tekis0
      @tekis0 Рік тому

      I was thinking the same thing. One can probably set the Surfer EQ to do the same thing.

    • @seanposner8884
      @seanposner8884 Рік тому

      and Melda MAutodynamicEQ

    • @jfilbert
      @jfilbert Рік тому +1

      @@seanposner8884 oooh didn't know that!

  • @gotyor
    @gotyor Рік тому +4

    Its a surf eq for sub. I get it. Do I need it. I don't know. But can't believe you didn't connect those dots. No offence, the point seemed to go over your head.

  • @bartjelories
    @bartjelories Рік тому +5

    This plugin I think was made to sell together with their main plugin "the sub" a sub bass generator.

  • @EvilsonicRecords
    @EvilsonicRecords Рік тому +5

    Good luck automating your EQ for 64 tracks. This plugin is easily the most value you can get per square dollar as a mixing engineer who actually works as a mixing engineer.

    • @henrikpetersson3463
      @henrikpetersson3463 Рік тому

      Do you automate the HPF for 64 tracks in a mix? 😄 I would never hire you if that's your ability to focus in a mix session.

    • @vikhr
      @vikhr Рік тому

      who does that for 64 tracks? realistically it would be maybe 3 for the average person. that is like saying that you shouldn't get serum because it does not have 64 oscillators lol

    • @EvilsonicRecords
      @EvilsonicRecords Рік тому

      @@vikhr I wouldn't have to break it down in a room with smart people, but since you ask: that's the whole point that this is not something you could realistically do even for 10 tracks on a regular basis. With this plugin, you can.

  • @maeckie5
    @maeckie5 Рік тому

    @whiteseastudio there is some occasional ringing in the audio only when you talk or am i going nuts ? did you use the plugin on your mic-track ?

  • @bongos7821
    @bongos7821 Рік тому +1

    If you could use the auto mode in parallel or just a mix knob on it could fix the over-cutting , and than it might be useful for quick bass control for producers working w mainly sub basses

  • @TheSakuraGumiLTD
    @TheSakuraGumiLTD Рік тому

    Does the Auto do anything good on higher frequency instruments?

  • @MatthewFlook
    @MatthewFlook Рік тому +3

    What do you mean when you say the auto mode doesn't work? It's basically the whole selling point of this plugin and you tried it for about 5 seconds in the video without understanding what it was doing or what it's intended to be used for. Also pretty absurd to compare this against a $180 EQ plugin

  • @dai_griff_productions
    @dai_griff_productions Рік тому +6

    Although, as a producer a plugin like this could be quite handy... I have Pro-Q but sometimes automating a Low-Cut on a fundamental (Bass, Piano, Synth) can take away from the creative process, and sometimes wished I had one-knob with an auto function on it... idk... For engineering might be limited, but for a quick fix, might be handy

  • @AutPen38
    @AutPen38 Рік тому

    Is this thing a bit like Bark of Dog, but dynamic in that it constantly searches (in auto mode) for the right frequency to cut rather than being fixed?

  • @ivcandela
    @ivcandela Рік тому +6

    You don't understand this plugin, again. This plugin is perfect for individual KEY DEPENDENT tracks. Like basses, guitars, synthesizers, which constantly change their fundamental. Only surferEQ would be something similar, but in this case it is only a HPF.

  • @like-icecream
    @like-icecream Рік тому

    do you know of any good multiband mute plugins?

  • @JimijaymesProductions
    @JimijaymesProductions Рік тому +2

    If this was a resonant highpass filter this plugin would make more sense, you could emphasise the fundamentals while cutting the stuff you don't need. I think it really has a single use for auto mode which is taking out the sub bass of your bass sound so you can add a clean sine bass instead.

    • @beat_spot
      @beat_spot Рік тому +2

      that's the reason why you want this plugin. It's also pretty handy for mixing purposes, like mixing an 808 from scratch by lowpassing it (it's not just HPF, but LPF too).

  • @jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283
    @jorgedejesustejedavaldez5283 Рік тому +4

    This plugin is most valuable in the EDM production perspective.

    • @gutterg0d
      @gutterg0d Рік тому

      I understand the value of a high pass filter, but I fail to see why someone would pay $35 to do it with this one trick plugin when there are numerous other good options to get that will do this and so much more?

    • @saricubra2867
      @saricubra2867 Рік тому +1

      You add a high pass filter to the synth and track it with the note number. Unlike the Snake oil above, a high pass on a synth can have polyphony 🙄.

    • @ruudheadz7095
      @ruudheadz7095 Рік тому

      @@gutterg0d when you have a mixer which has 'high pass/low pass filter built in, so......🙄

    • @gutterg0d
      @gutterg0d Рік тому +2

      @@saricubra2867 This is just a redundant plugin. Snake oil implies that they make false claims, I don't see any of that.

  • @hodshonf
    @hodshonf Рік тому +14

    big takeaway has nothing to do with the plugin: saturate and shelve your low end.
    that's what i love about WSS videos, the little master class nuggets sprinkled throughout the snake oils.

  • @JoshWiniberg
    @JoshWiniberg Рік тому +1

    Surfer EQ can do the same but with the options of using multiple bands and different filter/EQ shapes, plus more options for the auto tracking. Maybe the plugin on this video is useful for some people but I think the majority of the time Surfer EQ is going to be the better option.

  • @nasat8
    @nasat8 Рік тому +1

    I saw the screenshot and exactly knew what Wytse would feel about it.

  • @MixedByDotRob
    @MixedByDotRob Рік тому +7

    Thanks for pointing me to this very useful plugin! Just bought it! Makes a lot of sense to (dynamically) clean up the low end, when stacking bass sounds. It's like the lo-cut of Surfer-EQ in a simple plugin!

  • @everybodyhasoul5438
    @everybodyhasoul5438 Рік тому +1

    Seems like it might be cool to parallel process with the auto mode.

  • @josemorbass
    @josemorbass Рік тому

    Muchas gracias!

  • @KeenanCrow
    @KeenanCrow Рік тому

    Wait what does “cut” mean in the Netherlands?

  • @tmartin9024
    @tmartin9024 Рік тому +5

    Wytse, Thanks as always for your reviews. Some feedback from a fan of yours: I think it still might have been worthwhile to review a plugin like this- although it seems reasonable that you were skeptical about the value; however, comparing it to Pro-Q maybe wasn't the right way to go: some folks won't have already invested in FabFilter (as it seems like you were assuming).
    I will say I kind of liked the waveform visualization around the knob given the singular-purpose of the filter. I do agree with you that it probably has no value for you given your arsenal, but who is your audience; and does value mean the same to them as to you?
    I think your assessment of its value might have made more sense if you had used say a DAW stock plugin for comparison: if you could have made the same point that this thing has no incremental value over something that's priced between "free/included" and roughly the price of this plugin. Moreover, if you could have demonstrated a null test using stock plugins you'd have easily established snake oil - but I think your selection of Pro-Q for comparison wasn't appropriate in this case.

    • @WilliamWusikKalfelz
      @WilliamWusikKalfelz Рік тому +2

      Indeed, not everybody has an EQ like ProEQ, especially since it costs $ 130 USD. But I must say, $ 30 for this product is a bit high. For $ 9.95 it would be more appealing. Keep in mind that a lot of people who follow your videos can't afford expensive plugins. Especially people from 3rd World Countries such as me. ;-)

    • @WilliamWusikKalfelz
      @WilliamWusikKalfelz Рік тому +2

      For instance, me, I use Waves Graphical EQ that I got for $ 15 in a promo 2 years ago (buy 2 get one free, something like that). Would never buy Pro-Q for $ 130 as its priced right now.

    • @eight-nine
      @eight-nine Рік тому +1

      @@WilliamWusikKalfelz I think you can write your own eq, "with blackjack and hookers" ;) I agree with you about pricing as fab there and this trinket. If it was $10 I think a lot of people would have bought it just in case. If you buy such plugins for 30,40,60... I'd rather buy a monster-allinone like fab once.

  • @leonardoscaramuzza4047
    @leonardoscaramuzza4047 Рік тому +2

    Does anyone know what "cut" means in dutch? Im curious now🤣

    • @bitzoneMS
      @bitzoneMS Рік тому

      It's written with a k (instead of c) in dutch ...

  • @KnzoVortex
    @KnzoVortex Рік тому +5

    You can exactly replicate the auto mode using Kilohearts snap heap's note follower and a filter module, for half the price...
    with the additional bonus of also being able to use the filter and 29 other additional effects modules in a 6+ lane highly modular effects chain plugin.

  • @Take-the-Ticket
    @Take-the-Ticket Рік тому +2

    If it uses *significantly* lower CPU than a full, multifeatured, EQ, it might have value to some people I suppose....

  • @dykodesigns
    @dykodesigns Рік тому

    Something like this is the standard repertoire of standard built-in the DAW plugins. Why would I need a plugin for this if Cubase can do this with it’s built-in EQ?

  • @Gobymike
    @Gobymike Рік тому +1

    Thanks for checking this one out because I did purchase it because I’m new to producing music and I’m not really sure what plugins to get. I thought it was a good buy until I used it and it was cutting off important frequencies.

    • @DeiNostri
      @DeiNostri Рік тому +1

      Yes sometimes you might need a high pass filter for some reason, but since you can do the same thing with a free stock eq in any daw it is a waste of money.

    • @Gobymike
      @Gobymike Рік тому +3

      @@DeiNostri It was a waste of money but I’ve purchased the sub plug-in which is an sub or bass generator and I thought sub cut was something like an expansion for the sub. Well I’m not very experienced to making music sound very professional and wondered if this was something I needed because I could do this with stock or other EQs.

    • @DeiNostri
      @DeiNostri Рік тому +3

      @@Gobymike There is a ton of uneccessary plugins produced all the time. It is cheaper to buy stuff now than ever, unfortunately there is alot of companies that produce plugins just to make money without professional pride. There is a difference between earning money and ripping people of getting paid without earning it, that my honest opinion. I hope you have alot of fun making music, just as I have since 1993 :)

    • @Gobymike
      @Gobymike Рік тому +1

      @@DeiNostri thanks you for everything it really means a lot. I am learning alot from this channel. That’s why I watch all the snake oil videos and more for a broader understanding of how plug-in makers aren’t always honest.

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 Рік тому +2

      You don't "need" plugins like this, but it has an interesting usage in EDM and other electronic music genres. Some of the more interesting/distorted bass sounds can end up being a bit "unclear" in the lowest frequencies, so it sometimes pays to reduce or remove them to gain low-end clarity. But since sub-bass is an important part of EDM, you can/should replace the notes at the lowest frequencies with an undistorted sound like a sine wave. Hence, this plugin is useful for automatically reducing distorted sub sounds, and the company's other plugin can be used to replace them with cleaner sounds. Layering is all the rage these days. You used to have to do it all manually and use a variety of EQs. Now there are "one knob" plugins to basically do that all for you. Most of the time, though, your end listener won't even notice the improvement, however, because they're listening on a device that doesn't reproduce sub bass frequencies accurately (or at all) anyway. You'd be better of spending your money on plugins that make improvements that anyone can hear. (e.g. a synth, or a preset pack, or some sort of sound-mangling/creativity plugin).

  • @Victor-fi7po
    @Victor-fi7po Рік тому

    Hey white sea studios..maak jij wel eens tracks?? Kan ik die is horen?? Gr from holland ;)

    • @st33Npuist
      @st33Npuist Рік тому

      Nee, hij doet alleen meesteren.

  • @Schlingelkind
    @Schlingelkind Рік тому

    What does cut mean in Dutch? I couldn't find anything..

  • @redcraft31
    @redcraft31 Рік тому +8

    Thank you infinitely for all your hard work ! :)

  • @Nakiel
    @Nakiel Рік тому

    I thought it could be great for live use, so I assigned the cut to a knob on my midi pad controller for tweaking my kick-track while playing.
    Earlier I've just been using a free "GVST GLow" plugin, but it has a boring GUI. The problem I got with "Sub Cut" one was that it looses the knob assignment when it's not in focus, and in some DAWs it's not even automatable. -So sorry Iceberg, that is a dealbreaker.

  • @Unit27
    @Unit27 Рік тому +2

    I would have liked seeing what it does to the phase using PluginDoctor. A High Pass with the cutoff dancing around the lows in Auto mode without accounting for phase shifting could do a lot more harm than good.

    • @ImDino
      @ImDino Рік тому +1

      Same thoughts, but it seemed transparent enough.

    • @Unit27
      @Unit27 Рік тому

      @@ImDino Problem is that the phase shift doesn't really become a problem until we start summing signals. Can't really judge how it will behave with a listening test on a single track.

    • @ImDino
      @ImDino Рік тому

      @@Unit27 phase shift does become a problem without phasing out other stuff, it sounds less natural (on it's own), that's what I mean by transparency. So you can absolutely judge a plugin by a solo listen. As for phasing out layered sounds, you're going to run the risk of doing that with any plugin.

  • @LPChip
    @LPChip Рік тому +1

    I agree with you Wytse. Only reason I could come up with is the "getting a result fast" situation. But if you are familiar enough with your EQ, then it is fast enough to use that anyway.
    Also, am I the only one that find the before in some of their examples better than the after? :P True, not for mixing, but as is...?

    • @jeromejamies3641
      @jeromejamies3641 Рік тому +2

      Exactly! One could consider FF eq to be a hp with lots of additional options, maybe too many. And the fact that some don't like FF's guus is ignored completely. When I am faced with a gui like FF, music is the last thing I want to make, it just looks too cold, analytic and mathematical, a one knob solution can be way more inspiring

  • @verdrehtewelten
    @verdrehtewelten Рік тому

    the brickwall effect was interesting. thanx^^

  • @artfxdnb
    @artfxdnb Рік тому

    "sup Kut!"
    I feel you haha, that could honestly fly as a slang way of greeting your mates at the local bar, maybe 10 years ago 😅

  • @hatusage
    @hatusage Рік тому

    maybe check out t5he CPU usage. If it's low usage, there might be value in that?

  • @-Deena.
    @-Deena. Рік тому +2

    If you're wondering. From Dutch...spelled with a 'K' not a 'C' with an 'N' missing.

    • @Whiteseastudio
      @Whiteseastudio  Рік тому +2

      Its spelled with a K… Kut 😉

    • @-Deena.
      @-Deena. Рік тому +2

      @@Whiteseastudio ...that's what I said! 'From Dutch 'spelled with a K not a C'. Pay attention Wytse... kut 😉 So to make it English replace the 'K' in Kut ,with a 'C' and add an 'N' ...and you get 'CNUT' 🧡

  • @ALOISC1
    @ALOISC1 Рік тому +1

    It has a very nice unique UI. Get's good reviews on Plugin Boutique.

  • @beat_spot
    @beat_spot Рік тому +3

    I've been contacted by Iceberg Audio too and accepted to review this plugin. However, unlike you, I've found an interesting value proposition in it.
    The point is not about the HPF per se, anyone can hipass a signal. The point is about following the pitch in real-time, and that's something I've seen possible only with SurferEQ, which comes at a higher price range and is less user-friendly.
    I like your content most of the times, but other times you have this "I know it all" attitude that, in this video for example, falls short.
    This plugin is great for both mixing and production purposes. It happens that you have to mix a crappy 808 that moves wildly from scratch and you can't afford to just set a static EQ.
    If you're mixing bass-heavy music, you can't always ask the producer to remove the fundamental from their synth shots for both time and synth capabilities reasons (not all synths allow to tweak partials).

  • @Beatsbasteln
    @Beatsbasteln Рік тому +5

    Oooh, i have so many things to say about this video. Sry if this is going to be long and no one reads that :D
    1. I like the UI of that plugin. The way it visualizes the lowend frequencies seems to absolutely capture the vibe of highpassing the lowend and is useful. Reducing the range of the cutoff parameter to only the lowend is an advantage because you can make sensitive adjustments without holding shift like you'd have to in Pro-Q, so it does have an advantage for sure. The plugin is missing a 2nd parameter to add a little bell-bump just after the lowpass cutoff though, as that is something that I usually do to make the steep cuts a bit more natural.
    2. The audio-driven automatic frequency detection doesn't seem to update fast enough sometimes. It was very audible in that last demo-sound where you also raised an eyebrow. I felt that. I'd suggest to the developers to instead (or also) add a MIDI-triggered keytracking feature. That would at least help on the sounds where some MIDI-input is given, like on vsti synth tracks. But then again, one could also just use Rift Filter Lite for that.
    3. Your Brickwall-Highpass into 808-Tail-Trick is cool! However it felt like you had to cut off a lot of the good juice for that to kick in. I'd suggest a parallel bandpass filter instead. More precisely, the one(s) in the plugin that I created, called Manta. I have a video about that on my channel if you are interested. The plugin is free, but if you decide to make a snake-oil video about it you can treat it like a commercial plugin, because I never hold back!
    4. 35€ is indeed a bit much for something that is just a little highpass filter, technically. I wouldn't call it snake oil just because of that, but definitely keeps me from buying it. If some people want to buy it they should do that tho. I can see that it might appeal enough to people who just want all their plugins to look really modern or something. It's more of a feel-thing i think

    • @fightinggamesforever3364
      @fightinggamesforever3364 Рік тому

      If you value the look of your plugins over their use, then you should probably check yourself. (Not you, peeps in general).

    • @Beatsbasteln
      @Beatsbasteln Рік тому

      @@fightinggamesforever3364 functionality is essential, but i respect it when developers also manage to create an atmosphere with the interface. making music is a sensual activity, so i want all senses to be more or less aligned

  • @OWL.
    @OWL. Рік тому +2

    You should invite developer of this plugin and ask him... why? This is sneak oil...

  • @turboesther36
    @turboesther36 Рік тому

    The visualizers on the plug-in are really cool lol I would probably buy it just for that. I mean if it was way cheaper of course

  • @marianochiappe2427
    @marianochiappe2427 Рік тому

    Great video!
    Please review the waves bb tubes!

  • @chuckwagon5518
    @chuckwagon5518 Рік тому +1

    It seems to me that most people are trying to enhance the low end, not diminish it!

  • @MisterPotatoHands
    @MisterPotatoHands Рік тому +3

    Hi Wytse, I really love your ReSPECS t-shirt design, but I'm too old / shy to handle the back print :) I generally don't want people to ask me anything when I'm out :) Would you consider making a version with just the front print? I promise to buy it if you do!

  • @djvidual8288
    @djvidual8288 Рік тому

    Excluding the "Auto" setting of this plugin, it just being a high-pass filter is pretty disappointing. Like, yeah, my stock DAW can probably do this, so what's the point?

  • @evertschut
    @evertschut Рік тому +1

    Just a question, off topic, sorry. I watched this video ua-cam.com/video/lsB_Jf50R0Q/v-deo.html by Tukan Studios. He has some interesting observations on automatic gain copensation, the reason he doesn't incude in in his plugins. I know you judge plugins quite harshly that don't include gain compensation, so I wonder what you think about his arguments.

  • @queenpurple8433
    @queenpurple8433 Рік тому

    Yay plugin doctor! Lol thanks for the video

  • @FINXainarskrastins
    @FINXainarskrastins Рік тому +1

    8:55 - sample material

  • @pvugts
    @pvugts Рік тому +3

    This reminds me of the one knob filter Waves plugin.!🥱

  • @mixphantom0101
    @mixphantom0101 Рік тому +1

    I would only buy it was $99 and by Harrison...

  • @samphelps856
    @samphelps856 Рік тому +3

    If you've seen a spectral analyser, your first "voice" (core frequency) is in constant flux, having something that tracks that movement is awesome! When general boosting/cutting occurs in a general area, there is a lot of sub mess taking up valuable headroom and clutter. By just cutting, I'm only taking out the clutter from the lowest note/voice and have to tolerate or hand edit the mess in higher notes/voices (the mess being between the high pass lowest note and any sub mess between there and a higher fundamental). I've actually been looking for one of these. And if it works as I think it's supposed to, it's not snake oil.

  • @MCWolf14
    @MCWolf14 Рік тому +6

    The one thing I really like about this plugin is the Auto mode. I can see that being super useful. Otherwise, I would say it's snake oil.

  • @DaveLennonCopeland
    @DaveLennonCopeland Рік тому

    I doubt that it's for audio engineers, it's probably more for bedroom beat makers that have to have ALL the latest plugins to feel up-to-date or relevant.
    Maybe it has low CPU usage so you can put it on every channel without impacting your DAW performance... Dunno.

  • @genejas
    @genejas Рік тому +2

    a quick fundamental remover would have saved me an assload of time... i think this plug-in is mostly aimed at sound designers and electronica producers

  • @oscarortegarey635
    @oscarortegarey635 Рік тому

    I love you, man! :D

  • @IQM24
    @IQM24 Рік тому

    Thanks to the comment or who suggested boosting 800hz! 👍

  • @joel6361
    @joel6361 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for showing the plug in i will be using everyday!! I was looking for something exactly like this.

  • @launchpadmcquack98
    @launchpadmcquack98 Рік тому

    In this case the pre ringing sounds kinda cool

  • @RIPDavidBear
    @RIPDavidBear Рік тому +1

    Now I'm wondering what cut means in Dutch...

  • @STAR0SS
    @STAR0SS Рік тому +1

    Seems like a genius idea badly implemented ; they should have a whole tracking section with parameters to make sure tracking of the fundamental works as you want it, and then have a whole EQ that is tuned to the fundamental. In many applications you want to EQ with respect to the fundamental (e.g. boosting harmonics), so having an EQ that is expressed in relative frequencies (1/2f, 2f, 4f, ...) to the fundamental rather than absolute makes a lot of sense.

  • @uwebaganz5144
    @uwebaganz5144 Рік тому +10

    What a HP filter, never heard of that and I'm sure there is no other plugin that can do it

  • @WilliamWusikKalfelz
    @WilliamWusikKalfelz Рік тому +2

    As much as I love your videos, you can't decide it like this. Not everybody has an EQ like ProEQ, especially since it costs $ 130 USD. But I must say, $ 30 for this product is a bit high. For $ 9.95 it would be more appealing. Keep in mind that a lot of people who follow your videos can't afford expensive plugins. Especially people from 3rd World Countries such as me. ;-)

    • @henrikpetersson3463
      @henrikpetersson3463 Рік тому +1

      Your stock EQ might not have as steep of a curve as this one, but it's really all you need if you are lacking the cash. It's better to save it up for something really useful instead of throwing it away on tiny one trick ponies.

    • @maximilianheinrich1049
      @maximilianheinrich1049 Рік тому +1

      fabfilter proQ is expensive, true. but if you work in music, it is worth to invest that money, and if not, stock eq in the daw is still good as long as you cant afford expensive software. i think that proQ is the first plugin, that everybody should think about getting as soon as becoming more serious with music production, and then rather not invest any money in cheaper plugins that are fun but not really necessary because of being able to do similar things with stock plugins. if you spend 10$ here for a filter, 20 dollars there for some additional reverb, 15$ for a compressor, that would mean that you actually can afford proQ 3 if you just saved all the money spent for little toys over some time...

    • @cellrok
      @cellrok Рік тому

      Check out the ToneBoosters Equalizer 4 - it is $30 and similar to FabFilter ProQ in terms of interface features. Can do a 60 Slope on Hipass.

  • @warcroftgaming
    @warcroftgaming Рік тому +1

    Now I need to know what cut means in the Netherlands.

    • @Erik-Griffioen
      @Erik-Griffioen Рік тому

      If you put an N before the T, it will be the English version of this Dutch word

  • @youtubegodly
    @youtubegodly Рік тому

    Good vidéo

  • @schipbreukeling3
    @schipbreukeling3 Рік тому +1

    But...Why? One of the most philosophic questions in human history.

    • @st33Npuist
      @st33Npuist Рік тому

      In the Netherlands we say, it's all about 'de duit en de fluit.'

  • @Fwuzeem
    @Fwuzeem Рік тому

    It might be a different HP receipe

  • @mudsh4rk
    @mudsh4rk Рік тому

    Is this from an alternate timeline where Airwindows doesn't exist, or what?

  • @josephmerrill2686
    @josephmerrill2686 Рік тому

    Bark of Dog is a suped up parallel resonant high pass filter, but definitely suped up.

  • @IlkoBirov
    @IlkoBirov Рік тому

    but.. it has a big knob in the middle.

  • @Nethanieal
    @Nethanieal Рік тому +1

    Because they know most people do not know any better any they just want to make a quick buck . Thanks for this channel and your reviews bud - cheers from Canada

  • @ragismrotzrochen5776
    @ragismrotzrochen5776 Рік тому

    Sooo... What does "Sub Cut" mean in Dutch...? 🤔

  • @sheppo
    @sheppo Рік тому

    Thumbnail face is the face I pull every time I see yet batty nondescript video title and tiny screenshot of a plug-in I’ve never seen before. your videos are sometimes useful. I also think you’ve been pumping out videos based on quantity, rather than quality of late. The true peak video clearly needed a script, that needed proof reading first; it was littered with errors and little mistakes due to you just winging it.
    Whine over. Still subbed, still liking useful videos and doing all I can to support the channel… :)

  • @DerekPower
    @DerekPower Рік тому +2

    Poor Wytse. Hopefully Sinterklaas will give you tube hardware for all your troubles =]

    • @st33Npuist
      @st33Npuist Рік тому

      Only plugins this year, because Sinterklaas is flying by plane.. the pakjesboat is sunken.

    • @DerekPower
      @DerekPower Рік тому

      @@st33Npuist They better be good ones then 😁

    • @st33Npuist
      @st33Npuist Рік тому +1

      @@DerekPower Bettermaker for sure.

  • @KariKauree
    @KariKauree Рік тому +1

    Please do a snake oil video on the new Waves BB Tubes. They're advertising it with an unbelievable amount of hype for what seems to be just another tube saturation plugin...

    • @cristopherjohansson1323
      @cristopherjohansson1323 Рік тому

      It’s actually a sick plugin! Just try it out

    • @KariKauree
      @KariKauree Рік тому

      @@cristopherjohansson1323 Ok but what makes it stand out from all the other saturation plugins, if anything?

  • @livemusicnyc6357
    @livemusicnyc6357 Рік тому +1

    one can def use this plugin for a live recording of a clean electric guitar sound with fat (#12-#13) string. i usually use waves R-Eq2 with low cut/high pass, but this one will be more suitable...i think it also has some dynamic eq quality built in...etc....etc...cool plug

  • @Phazze_music
    @Phazze_music Рік тому

    They should let it go as free download so that would make any sense

  • @ImDino
    @ImDino Рік тому +1

    You used it wrong. It's made to for instance clean up the relationship between a sub layer and top-bass layer which you do a lot in EDM. _Ofcourse_ it's going all over the place when you put it on a kick (or a whole song of which the kick is the lowest sound) because as you know - the sub of the kick progresses downward to it's root note. Obviously the tracking worked flawlessly on your sinewave, to say that it doesn't work is far from the truth.

  • @AirArtStudiosOfficial
    @AirArtStudiosOfficial 5 місяців тому

    This is a game changer for low end.

  • @julienepouhe9639
    @julienepouhe9639 Рік тому

    Sorry mayne but this intro is legendary ! "But Why"? 😂😂😂😂

  • @ivancastellanos9433
    @ivancastellanos9433 Рік тому

    Why?

  • @johndoe_1984
    @johndoe_1984 Рік тому +1

    Everybody is bashing but it’s basically automating what you would do with pro-q and a MIDI track to move the frequency.
    Maybe a bit expansive, but not 0 value.

  • @bobsandj
    @bobsandj Рік тому +1

    But this plugin follows your root note automaticaly!! That is the most important part.

    • @bobsandj
      @bobsandj Рік тому

      EDIT: I tryed the "AUTO" Function on a very low bassline around F1, and it weirdly recognized an octave higher F2 as a fundamental frefuency.. so it automaticaly cut away all the sub. You can not to choose which harmonics frequencies it suppose to follow.
      They are selling it accompanied to "The Sub" plugin which could replace missing subs I suppose.

  • @Amplifimusic
    @Amplifimusic Рік тому +3

    kut in Dutch is an unfortunate word :{

  • @jbaranowski1990
    @jbaranowski1990 Рік тому

    Yeah it's funny that they sell HPF when you can get HPF in any eq plugin you can get on the market. And for free!

  • @michamarkowski4214
    @michamarkowski4214 Рік тому +1

    I think this plugin is not made for audio engineers but rather for people who don't know much about it or just want to make things as simple as possible. I wouldn't use it because i like more control and it costs 35 bucks which is a joke.

  • @User-ik2kc
    @User-ik2kc Рік тому

    Nice that you put it into plugin doctor!

  • @tekis0
    @tekis0 Рік тому

    Yo, Iceberg. Why not make a "resonate" type of high-pass? Instead of just three filter types, add a fourth.

  • @AlexLapugean
    @AlexLapugean Рік тому

    Where are the people with "why is he using plugin doctor" and "just use your ears"?

  • @greenhologhost
    @greenhologhost Рік тому

    in my oIn my opinion, plugins like this are designed for newbies, and companies take advantage of newbies. easy money