Can One Fork Do it All? | Deep Diving Into the Manitou Mezzer
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- Suspension forks are often the most expensive part of your bike, so if you want to switch from a trail bike to an enduro bike, how great would it be if you only had to buy the frameset? Instead of a costly new build or even a complete bike. Rich Payne uses one fork on his trail bike, hardtail, enduro bike and eBike to see if it's possible.
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⏱️ Timestamps ⏱️
00:00 - Intro
01:12 - 140mm Travel
02:22 - How To Adjust The Travel
04:45 - 150mm Travel
06:07 - 170mm Travel
08:30 - 180mm Travel
10:17 - Summary
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That's pretty cool, but I'd like to see not just "look ma, I changed travel!", but some kind of in depth review with pros and cons of this fork.
I agree with you as they do look interesting, but as it's a sponsored video.. it wouldn't be ethical to 'review them' maybe they'll do a proper review in another video.
I have one and I´d say it´s not quite as stiff when it comes to hits from the front as a rs zeb but only marginally and side to side I´d say it´s about the same. What´s amazing about that fork is the IRT so you can easily adjust the ramp up which is absolutely amazing. I can´t say anything about the damper because I run the cheaper expert with the IRT upgrade but even with the cheaper damper it´s an amazing fork which anyone can easily service without specialty oils and stuff
They will never do reviews, you have to go to the other independent channels for that.
Bern running mine almost 2 years now - it's phenomenal, I came from a coil loaded 36 and this performs way better. IRT ramp control really helps fine tune the way it moves through the travel, and sensitivity is unreal.
GMBN is very shallow in their reviews
Couple things I lovr about my Mezzers (2 of them) aside from the easy travel change is the chamfered thread bottom caps on the stanchions that make putting the lowers back on totally faff free. Ni catching on the seals and seal springs.
And the dual positive air chambers (which should be standard on every mid to high end fork makes changing the spring rate suoer easy for different riding styles (ie bike park vs tech). No need to open the fork and pop in plastic bits.
I’ve been running the Mezzer Pro for a couple of years now. Might be my favorite fork.
I like Rich’s technique gliding/pumping/dancing over the gnarly roots. I’m gonna try that.
I think only mentioning the travel adjust on this fork is under selling it. To me this fork is a winner because one can adjust every aspect of it, at home with all the resources you need at MTBR/mezzer owners thread.
When It comes to how good a fork is for any specific rider, Its all about it being set up and tuned correctly, even fork reviews usually relies on how good forks are out the box. But face it, pro's spend a season setting a bike up. A fork might take months, but a 1000$ fork which may never be perfectly adjustable to your weight and riding style should put you off. However, once Its set up, Its nice to be able to swap it over to your next bike knowing, it does not get much better, and features like the dorado air are still market leading.
I do admit the fork is tuned for someone in the 90-100kg range if I must guess, and will need a tuning straight away if youre not. But its all quite simple to do and tools are in fact available as many cassette tools actually work, not just the Manitou tool. You also have to get a proper shock pump to keep the negative air from leaking out while the pump is removed. This will leave the fork with no small bump performance.
I have had my Mezzer Pro for about 18 months now, and I have been able to tune it to perfection. Although Its taken a while, but this truly is the perfect fork for serious riders or puzzlers as you can get it to Pro level tune, yourself.
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I just got one and went for my first ride yesterday, pretty darn good fork.
This feature is not just on the Mezzer it is on all of their forks.. So you can go from basically 80-120, 140-180 and so on up the line in their forks.. I have 3 of their R7 Pro Forks. And, I find they are way better than Fox and RockShock for the price and the quality. And they are literally made right here in my backyard in WI. And, lastly they are all so the home mechanic can service them easily.
I’ve been running a manitou forks from the late 90s( EX-Vert dorado) the mezzer has been on my bike for the last three years can’t fault it at all
Awesome video man. Definitely something I would invest in. Trail looks super fun as well
The new Manitou forks look amazing! I like the new Mattoc that is adjustable between 110-150mm. That would be perfect if you live somewhere where an enduro bike is very overkill as I do.
This is perfect! I've been wanting one of these for ages but I wasn't able to find one in 150mm so I'm glad it is still worth to keep looking
The fork will come with all the spacers you need to set your travel, the only thing you'd need to do is add or remove them to get to 150mm.
@@marycryan7043 I was looking at buying second hand though and lots of people don't include the spacers which is very annoying
Got a mezzer,BEST fork I've had.
Do you still like the fork
@@yamahschector absolutely!
I think I am picking it up
100-150mm on my Manitou Mastodon Pro equipped fatbike lets me adapt my bike to the differences between winter snow and summer techy riding
I ride the Mezzer in Finale Ligure the first time and the fork was perfectly. If you go in the rockgardens you just hear that the fork ist working and your handlebar was quiet.
I have been looking at the Mezzer for years now. I am currently on a DVO Diamond on my full suspension and I have zero complaints and love the green! I figure when it is time to replace it I could try the mezzer.
I really like my Mastodon on my fat bike.
I have one on my fatbike. I use 120 on 27.5x3.8’s in the winter and 140 in the summer with 29x3’s. Very cool fork
I wanted a Mezzer when it first came out but reports of bushing issues and problems with bottom out bumpers combined with less than stellar customer service from Hotlines, I went with a Lyrik.
Also, there were no seal kits available at the time which was another thing that out me off. Given that CRC/Wiggle are about to go pop, maybe it means that Hayes/Manitou might get some proper distribution in the UK.
I've had a Suntour Aion 35 Evo, which you can set, with spacers, from 120 to 160mm travel. A brilliant fork, the best I ever had, better than the Fox I have on my current bike.
The ebike section filming was just 👌👌👌👌
I had goosebumps when Rich said, "hardtail." Hah! Oh, dear!
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I’ve got a 2009 rockshox lyric u-turn on one of my bikes, and you can change travel whilst riding, as you just turn the u-turn dial which adjusts the spring to give more or less travel between 160mm and 115mm
I've recently bought a used 2007 Revelation, and it's amazing. Change from 130mm to 100mm while rolling on top of the bike, was the best feature I didn't know I needed.
The sound of the damper when the front wheel is in the air is incredible 😂
The fox float travel adjust used to do this and you could adjust it while riding, they discontinued it because they'd rather sell you two forks lol
Looks like a nice fork, though you can basically do the same on the suntour air forks. I was hoping it was an adjustable dial to change the travel like some forks from 10 - 15 years ago. It's nice to know you can change travel if you move forks to another bike, but it's hardly something you would ever do between different rides... im certainly to lazy to do so 😂
Still got a 2006 rockshox pike in my pub bike and a lyric u turn for if/ when I build another DJ bike! Love being able to go from 110- 160 and like 110-145 😂
I’m on my second season on my Mezzer Pro. As a big guy at 275 pounds I found it to have excellent support and infinite adjustment with changing terrain. At my weight most forks are too soft or harsh as i have to max out the air spring.
Better hope you have bikes with similar headtube lengths.
@gmbntech How was the ride performances by changing the travel ? are they the same quality ?
Did you notice a difference in progressively between travels..ie was one length harder to bottom than another on the mezzer..
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They should also sell dual crown forks in the 160-180mm travel for enduro bikes.
You can get the Dorado in those travel options ❤
@@andynelson1977 yea i think that is the only option under 190, but only goes down to 180 right? I saw a video of a guy customizing one to 170 to compare vs a single crown for enduro and he was faster on dual crown.
You do a nice job.
I've got no shortage of bikes in my shed, but i do have the best components spec'd for each model and style. I wouldn't want my bikes hanging around with no fork on them. Would be a hassle for me to reconfigure the fork just to ride my transition scout, after riding my stumpy.
All my bikes are fitted with mezzer pro.. Easy to service, change travel and tuning.. plus, u cn hear the air sound when u go thru rock garden or rooty terrain.. lol..
Most of the Intend forks do this with a theoretical minimum travel of 0mm. Super sick. X-fusion have a great way to do it by simply relocating a pin on the air shaft, shame every other aspect of X-fusion is a little lackluster.
I would consider this as an upgrade to an existing fork. Then I could put the OEM back on when I sell the bike and have this fork for the next bike, which could (would, should!) be longer travel. Rinse, repeat.
Great Forks, but we have No direct Uk Distribution for Hayes Bike products! Bike shops have to order through the German Distributor 4-5 weeks shipping
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Can you make a video whrer you make reverse mullet (like one of youre older videos) but you put a bigger fork (40mm) to compensate for the smaller weel. Possibly hardtail.
Or you can write the answer hrer in the coments if you allredy know it ❤
I bought a Mezzer Expert for $510 on sale directly from Hayes Bicycles. I have a $900 Rockshox Pike Ultimate with a 2.1 charger damper. In my opinion the Mezzer Expert is a better fork. Small bump sensitivity is about the same with the Pike but mid stroke support is much better on the Mezzer. The Mezzer has 37mm stanchions compared to 35mm on the Pike. So the increased lateral stiffness just makes it feel more precise going through technical terrain. The Mezzer is also super quiet. The Pike has a squishy sound when it hits big roots and medium sized rocks at lower speeds. Also I don't know exactly how and why but the Mezzer feels supportive and plush at the same time. The Pike is great but sometimes at the end of some rides my hands feel some numbness. The Pike feels a little harsh going through extended rock gardens and drops. I've adjusted the high speed compression and run it fully open sometimes, removed air volume reducer tokens and it still feels a little harsh. So far I haven't felt any noticeable harshness on any rides with the Mezzer.
Rich you missed the opportunity to include ist on an XC bike too! I scored a half price deal on a mezzer pro, reduced the travel to 130 and put it on my Scott spark - so much better than the Fox 34s that were on it
Manitou make awesome products, as other owners have said below, all their forks have adjustable travel, not just the Mezzer, In fact their brand new Mattoc truely is the master of all!!! and all their forks even the base model ones have better damping than your most Rockshox and fox forks
How do you get the Mezzer down to 130?
@@derekfoster9357 put 1 extra spacer in, I had some left over from another manitou fork. Manitou says technically its not ideal. I think the negative:positive chamber ratio goes beyond their ideals. (neg chamber too large) , but it works
Except for the added expense, the Ohlins forks would be even more preferable if travel change simplicity is the goal. If I understand correctly, the air springs in those are hot-swappable without even having to remove the fork lower, though you do have to purchase individual air springs for each nominal travel length. I’m considering one for my next build for this exact reason. More time riding and less time wrenching on a versatile frame and fork that can alternate between park and trail days…
Tossed up about getting one of these but got a Lyrik instead since it was a better deal at the time. Now I want to build another bike and would like to take to fork but I’m going to struggle with the travel. This would have been perfect
I'm having difficulty finding them in the UK. Any ideas?
WOW EXACTLY LIKE MY DVO ONYX has done for years
Why is there that goofy Amazon bike in the back 😅 0:20
It's like old tech, but at new prices
Great infomercial 🤣
I have old SR Suntour Durolux 38mm that had that since 2016 so it is nothing new. 140-180 with 20mm increments.
So I wonder if I can on my fork forget which model it is from them
Do manitou make a shock version of this fork where you can adjust the travel?
Manitou Mara does have spacers you can install or remove to change the stroke of the shock.
Dear rockshox. BRING BACK U-TURN !
Sounds great in theory, but is it that useful in practice? Is it common to have several bikes laying around without forks? Or having one bike which you now and then want to change the fork length on, is that useful/practical? … I think the price was reasonable though, thought it would be higher.
Yes. I have two Mezzers. One at 180mm on my Nicolai G1. Another I had at 180 on my Pole Evolink 158, then at 160 on my Nukeproof Mega and now at 150mm on my Rocky Mountain Instinct.
And Manitou has designed it so its super easy to service, change travel etc.
@onehandwashestheother just the Pole and the NP 😂 probably wont be able to get much selling them here where I am.
29er 160- 27.5170mm fork can do xc, trail. enduro,Downhill
But try getting Manitou spares in the uk . I run Mattocs I had to source seals from Germany. That company no longer trades with the uk.
I wouldn’t have use for it personally. I wouldn’t change it between bikes and I suspect once I’d set it up I wouldn’t change it.
Its a cool idea.. but i wish you could do this without having to take the fork apart. something like springdex. Maybe have a coil fork with an adjuster on the left that pulls the lowers up and somehow locks it in place.
I know that it's not the most important thing in the world, but it would be nice if the videos were shot in 4K or at least 1440p. Nonetheless, a very cool video.
Anymore flex at 180 vs 140
I hate this child 😂 Seriously though, keep riding but more importantly, keep enjoying the ride 🤜🤛
It's fine if your head tubes are all the same height
So, how deep does the fork dive under braking? :P
Doddy quote: how long is a piece of string 🤷♂️
It really depends on the adjustments, and with this fork you can adjust the ramp up.
Switched from lyrik to mezzer just because of brake dive that i get from lyrik and not on my previous fork (mattoc pro) IRT really tunes how progressive you want the fork to behave without sacrificing small bump sensitivity.
very easily tunable on the Manitou pro forks with IRT instead of installing tokens you pump up the top air chamber (the main air chamber is pumped up on the bottom of the fork)
So it looks like that are now marketing the travel adjust and providing the bits. Had a mezzer a while back which I wanted to reduce the travel on. Couldn’t get the tools in the UK!
I personally couldn't be arsed to open the fork up to do it ,its clearly going to be messyer than shown the lowers had no oil coming out of them atall . i had u turn forks back in the day tho if that concept of external adjustability was to return however that would be a game changer. Allso Manatou forks look shit they should sack off that rear arch thing .
Yeah, they have pronouns
Reactor...best trail bike ever!
but can one frame do all
First viewer!!!!!
Jiii that canyon bike is ugly as funk, Mezzer seem quite interesting fork but it could be priced more competitive.
Where is the line between journalism and sponsored stuff? Who even are you? I can never tell on this channel which bits are honest and which bits are bought
They are all bought,it's a video magazine basically.
Are you kidding me? You are the one who have ridden the forks and you let us to decide 😂 what a joke with These sponsored videos…
Manitou propaganda