4:07....And a Happy New Year, to you! I wish I could move up to Tampa, further north on Florida's west coast, or even Jacksonville, where things get nice and cold in the wintertime; Mmmm....❤
Thank you for posting. Back in the early 90’s I visited my aging “snowbird” parents living in St.Pete. I traveled on AMTRAK to and from Tampa. This was prior to the remodeling of Tampa Union Station. The AMTRAK even had an old “heritage” era slumbercoach in the consist! Improvements have been made in 30 years!! - but slowly.
@@paul205757 you ever run on the Clearwater sub to St Pete? That’s my hometown line and I’m planning on doing a video on the history of SAL/ACL transitioning to CSX at some point
@@paul205757 that’s awesome man. I’m here in Clearwater for another couple weeks and then I’m back up to NYC where I work. I’ll be back here posting videos whenever I’m home. Look for me in a Silverado or Mustang!
@ I will send you some cab shots and you can do what you want with them.. we get a lot of rail fanning man I love the attention Amtrak has tried to poach me I thought about but I’m good where I am At.
If Brightline extends to Tampa in 2027 or 28 from Orlando, Amtrak would be the thing of the past. Also commuter rail is in talks from Lakeland to St. Petersburg in the near future serving Tampa Bay Metropolitan area!😮
Brightline would be cool. But you won’t see any commuter rail coming to St Pete anytime soon. There is only one right of way and CSX is not interested in selling or splitting it. It has been talked about but Tampa will be the farthest that Brightline will ever extend if you ask me. Furthermore, Brightline is not long distance and offers a completely different service than Amtrak so I don’t think they will be competing even if this does happen at some point.
@@Eric5ohhhTook Amtrak to Tampa in the'90s Good trips every time. Hey Bright line best wishes from a Metro North rider. Had an idea you would set this up
@@fredolsen686 Right now the Floridian is daily from Miami-Chicago, Southbound 41 gets in at 12:30pm and Northbound 40 arrives at 4:30pm making it so Tampa sees two trains a day. And I grew up here in the Tampa bay area but currently live and work in NYC. I’m back for the holidays. I will be posting videos from both places as I go back and forth
I have not been on the Floridian to know for sure but I would imagine that they would make an announcement regarding their arrival procedure when they’re pulling into the wye
@@fred5727 unfortunately not. The only way that would happen is if the entire route was electrified with major infrastructure upgrades. Right now the NE corridor from Boston-Washington DC will be the only place the Acela and the New Acela Avelia Liberty equipment that’s now been delayed by years will be running for the foreseeable future
Negative, Northeast Corridor trains have to back into Washington, DC Union Station due to track configuration. Same goes for Long distance Amtrak trains that service Chicago Union Station. There could be more but I know of those off the top of my head. Tampa is unique in the sense that it’s definitely the farthest distance that Amtrak needs to back a train into a station
I would not expect that to happen. If anything Amtrak could potentially be on the chopping block over the next administration as they look to make huge federal cuts in spending.
Wow, how interesting! I reside in Winter Haven and often wondered how the train reverses direction in Tampa...now I know. The map was the key. Thank you for sharing!!
Eric5ohhh - I miss my Silver Star. So far, ive seen nothing on how it'll be replaced (as a New Yorker, thankfully its temporary, but still..). Cool video, nonetheless. 👍🏾
Okay. Americans need wyes like this or loops because they don't like dual cab locomotives. With those a siding could be sufficient for the locomotive go-around. Hopefully the Venture cab cars will make a difference in the future, if they are used in full push-pull train operation.
The Tampa Bay Area is very rich in railroading history and it’s always been standard practice for trains to turn around when coming and leaving Tampa. Amtrak would make a turnaround at a wye just north of St. Pete. when that was the end of the line of the original “Floridian” up until 1984 when all passenger rail seized to exist in Pinellas county making Tampa the end of the line.
@Eric5ohhh Nice to learn about traditional train operations and how nothing should ever change. But that is not how American passenger trains will ever be able to compete with cars and airplanes in the future.
@@Nils_Ki 🤷🏻♂️ I’m just documenting what’s status quo. CSX has had nothing but dwindling services in the Tampa Bay Area compared to 50 years ago, just like every other railroad in history thanks to more and more transportation of passengers and goods via car/truck or plane. This is basic railroading history knowledge if you ask me. As far as the future goes, I don’t see much happening as far as Amtrak changing operations in the Tampa Bay Area. Unfortunately
You’re entitled to your opinion. As a railfan i can appreciate everything out there. I wish Amtrak had a different option rather than Siemens though but that’s a whole other conversation
@Eric5ohhh Thanks for allowing others to have opinions. Lately people on UA-cam argue never ending. We do like the p42s that they're repainting in Charger scheme. Can't remember what they call it
@@debbievogt9881 that would be Phase VII. I can’t wait to see it in person myself. Hopefully I can catch one in person soon. And I agree there’s people arguing everywhere I just try to keep it objective
Maybe more people would ride our trains if they looked better. Amtrak locos are ugly and their design isn't cohesive with the passenger cars. I've ridden both the Acela and regular trains from NY to DC and back. I enjoyed the trip better than all the flying I did back in the day.
That is because your passenger cars are extremely old and need to be replaced. The Venture cars will become a better fit for the chargers, and with Venture cab cars in full push-pull operation you don't need a time consuming turn around maneuver like this.
4:07....And a Happy New Year, to you! I wish I could move up to Tampa, further north on Florida's west coast, or even Jacksonville, where things get nice and cold in the wintertime; Mmmm....❤
@JennieBonbons Somewhere where Iguama fall out of trees?
Thank you for posting. Back in the early 90’s I visited my aging “snowbird” parents living in St.Pete. I traveled on AMTRAK to and from Tampa. This was prior to the remodeling of Tampa Union Station. The AMTRAK even had an old “heritage” era slumbercoach in the consist! Improvements have been made in 30 years!! - but slowly.
Very cool, thanks for sharing. Glad you enjoyed
Great job capturing this train maneuvering event! 👍
Thanks for the support!
Nice job and thank you Eric.
Thanks so much. Appreciate the kind words
I saw that same consist at Hollywood!
I’m a Csx conductor, I do a lot of local runs around Florida which includes st Pete Lakeland and Miami very nice work…
@@paul205757 you ever run on the Clearwater sub to St Pete? That’s my hometown line and I’m planning on doing a video on the history of SAL/ACL transitioning to CSX at some point
@ all the time.. I was there coming back from st pete New Year’s Day. I’m getting ready for engineering school in Atlanta next month.
@@paul205757 that’s awesome man. I’m here in Clearwater for another couple weeks and then I’m back up to NYC where I work. I’ll be back here posting videos whenever I’m home. Look for me in a Silverado or Mustang!
@ I will send you some cab shots and you can do what you want with them.. we get a lot of rail fanning man I love the attention Amtrak has tried to poach me I thought about but I’m good where I am
At.
@ sounds great!
I like the video
Thanks for the support 👍🏼
@ Your welcome
If Brightline extends to Tampa in 2027 or 28 from Orlando, Amtrak would be the thing of the past. Also commuter rail is in talks from Lakeland to St. Petersburg in the near future serving Tampa Bay Metropolitan area!😮
Brightline would be cool. But you won’t see any commuter rail coming to St Pete anytime soon. There is only one right of way and CSX is not interested in selling or splitting it. It has been talked about but Tampa will be the farthest that Brightline will ever extend if you ask me.
Furthermore, Brightline is not long distance and offers a completely different service than Amtrak so I don’t think they will be competing even if this does happen at some point.
@@Eric5ohhhTook Amtrak to Tampa in the'90s Good trips every time. Hey Bright line best wishes from a Metro North rider. Had an idea you would set this up
You are forgetting that Amtrak offers service from New York Penn Station to Florida daily
Do they always back the train into the station
@@fredolsen686 yes
@Eric5ohhh So you live in Tampa? And how often does the train come in
@@fredolsen686 Right now the Floridian is daily from Miami-Chicago, Southbound 41 gets in at 12:30pm and Northbound 40 arrives at 4:30pm making it so Tampa sees two trains a day.
And I grew up here in the Tampa bay area but currently live and work in NYC. I’m back for the holidays. I will be posting videos from both places as I go back and forth
Do they explain what's going on to the passengers that are on that train?
I have not been on the Floridian to know for sure but I would imagine that they would make an announcement regarding their arrival procedure when they’re pulling into the wye
@Eric5ohhh Well it is Amtrak
@@debbievogt9881 whenever I’ve been on Amtrak the crew is pretty informative. But I know everyone’s personal experiences are different
@@debbievogt9881 whenever I’ve been on Amtrak the crew is pretty informative. But I know everyone’s personal experiences are different
hahahha i was on that train coming back from nyp
New York Penn?
@ yes
@@Floridacop911 did you transfer to this train at DC? The Floridian originates in Chicago
@ yes
@@Floridacop911 very nice. I take the auto train to Lorton, VA and drive the rest of the way to Long Island
Question: Would the tracks allow the Acela engines (trains) to run from NY to Florida?
@@fred5727 unfortunately not. The only way that would happen is if the entire route was electrified with major infrastructure upgrades. Right now the NE corridor from Boston-Washington DC will be the only place the Acela and the New Acela Avelia Liberty equipment that’s now been delayed by years will be running for the foreseeable future
Is Tampa the only Amtrak station they back into?
Negative, Northeast Corridor trains have to back into Washington, DC Union Station due to track configuration. Same goes for Long distance Amtrak trains that service Chicago Union Station. There could be more but I know of those off the top of my head. Tampa is unique in the sense that it’s definitely the farthest distance that Amtrak needs to back a train into a station
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One day with a re-design of the approach to Tampa that back won’t be necessary.
I would not expect that to happen. If anything Amtrak could potentially be on the chopping block over the next administration as they look to make huge federal cuts in spending.
Wow, how interesting! I reside in Winter Haven and often wondered how the train reverses direction in Tampa...now I know. The map was the key. Thank you for sharing!!
Eric5ohhh - I miss my Silver Star. So far, ive seen nothing on how it'll be replaced (as a New Yorker, thankfully its temporary, but still..). Cool video, nonetheless. 👍🏾
Okay. Americans need wyes like this or loops because they don't like dual cab locomotives. With those a siding could be sufficient for the locomotive go-around. Hopefully the Venture cab cars will make a difference in the future, if they are used in full push-pull train operation.
The Tampa Bay Area is very rich in railroading history and it’s always been standard practice for trains to turn around when coming and leaving Tampa. Amtrak would make a turnaround at a wye just north of St. Pete. when that was the end of the line of the original “Floridian” up until 1984 when all passenger rail seized to exist in Pinellas county making Tampa the end of the line.
@Eric5ohhh
Nice to learn about traditional train operations and how nothing should ever change. But that is not how American passenger trains will ever be able to compete with cars and airplanes in the future.
@@Nils_Ki 🤷🏻♂️ I’m just documenting what’s status quo. CSX has had nothing but dwindling services in the Tampa Bay Area compared to 50 years ago, just like every other railroad in history thanks to more and more transportation of passengers and goods via car/truck or plane. This is basic railroading history knowledge if you ask me. As far as the future goes, I don’t see much happening as far as Amtrak changing operations in the Tampa Bay Area. Unfortunately
We are keeping our P42s. We decided we don't want any damn Chargers. Who are "We"?
Fans across the Lakeshore Limited lines
Screw the Chargers
You’re entitled to your opinion. As a railfan i can appreciate everything out there. I wish Amtrak had a different option rather than Siemens though but that’s a whole other conversation
@Eric5ohhh Thanks for allowing others to have opinions. Lately people on UA-cam argue never ending.
We do like the p42s that they're repainting in Charger scheme. Can't remember what they call it
@@debbievogt9881 that would be Phase VII. I can’t wait to see it in person myself. Hopefully I can catch one in person soon. And I agree there’s people arguing everywhere I just try to keep it objective
Maybe more people would ride our trains if they looked better. Amtrak locos are ugly and their design isn't cohesive with the passenger cars. I've ridden both the Acela and regular trains from NY to DC and back. I enjoyed the trip better than all the flying I did back in the day.
Perhaps if they looked like E9s or FP7s. One can dream.
Nobody cares what they look like. They care about cost and being on time.
That is because your passenger cars are extremely old and need to be replaced. The Venture cars will become a better fit for the chargers, and with Venture cab cars in full push-pull operation you don't need a time consuming turn around maneuver like this.