"FASCINATING Mystery!" | Archaeologists Find Burial Site From 12th Century Near Richard III Body
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2024
- Leicester Cathedral, a historic church in England with roots that go back centuries, has been the centre of a revolutionary archaeological find, first uncovered in 2022.
During the digging of the cathedral's grounds for the upcoming development of a school, archaeologists stumbled upon a burial site from the 12th century with the bodies of 123 individuals.
Initially, it was thought these might be those who died from the Black Death, but further analysis through radiocarbon dating showed that these burials were actually from before the disease struck by more than 150 years.
Talk’s Kevin O’Sullivan is joined by historian Ashley Hern, who gives his take on what he thinks happened.
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They were probably old age pensioners denied winter fuel payments
or people who posted nasty comments online
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The BBC will run with this story and try say it was a non binary diverse person
they were African. lol
@@rbb5072septimius severus was north african and ruled rome and died in ancient britain
And killed by Climate Change but ours is worse and we're to blame.
@@JBWozEre96 To Roman parents.
Definitely all gays and probably black too
I get the feeling that our ancestors are furious with us..
They've definitely turned in their graves that's for sure!
Ancestors? My grandad is 99 he told me the other day there's too many Nick Jaggers
@@xgtwb6473 Hello xq…would you agree your grandfather is a manly man? If so please please pleaseeee speak to him and get him to tell you what he wants happening…Especially if he was in the war, please give us his insight on the matter…you don’t understand how incredible it is that you still have your grandfather at 99 of all ages…As he was alive from 1920’s onwards meaning he is one of the very few of the closest things we have to an ‘original human’ as we are all corrupted by all sorts media technology food etc etc psychological warfare from a very young age. Him being as old as he is means he grew up as normal as you possibly could be nowadays.
Honestly just his general insight on what’s happening is enough…I just know that our old timers are who we need to look to to aid us, however it’s literally up to us, not them as they are literally too old for this shi.
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Is it the missing black royal family that were persecuted by ye olde far ryghte
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@@chrishill7797 Missing black royal family???
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Don't worry Harry married one of thier descendants so it's all good now lol
For God's sake don't tell starmer he will want them for unpaid taxes
The 12th century sounds great compared to now.
Wait til the sun goes down....
Lol, really? In short: It wasn't.
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At least they knew what a woman was back then
@@sterlingdafydd5834 yeah because otherwise how could the figure out who to oppress?
Starvation due to Norman colonisation, will the woke brigade get involved?
Don't tell me, they were mostly black.
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Propably.
All laid down with heads pointing to a certain city in Saudi Arabia 😅
But if coarse they where they built Britain don't you know 😂😂😂😂
Black transgender muslims
Trying to think of any possibilities that could cause such a large loss of life, possibly through starvation, bad weather, and I find myself thinking "did they have a labour government back then?"
Pandemic?
@Rigante 😂😂😂
Was there a crop failure resulting in famine?
He just brought that possibility up, I hadn't watched it all the way through.
Plague of some sorts?
Most likely conflict.
Humza Y's reaction: "Body #1 - white. Body #2 - white. Body #3 - white..."
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Maybe they were buried in 3 disused wells. ..or old mine shafts.
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@@ninamoores I've read a better account since (in The Guardian - bc this is what google search brought first). They did not stand upright, feet to head, as this host was saying. They were dumped all in a heap in an old shaft, relatively wide, in random body positions. So, there's nothing really mysterious; at a time of a deadly epidemic, the town might not have enough healthy people to go about a regular burial ritual.
Happy to filp those numbers.
It's inevitable.
How the hell do you make a hole that bloody deep with the limited tools they had. Mad !
Lots of people and plenty of elbow grease I imagine. People didn't just sit around waiting for their benefit payments to roll in back then.
Digging a pit with limited tools can't be that taxing otherwise civilisation would never have got off the ground.
Great Question No mechanical bores in those days ?
Wells were dug by hand using tools. Men were lowered down with a rope and bucket for soil and stone to be hauled up. No idea what the deepest well dug was but it would have been impossible to go deeper than the water table.
If there are more than three of them, and they are Anglo Saxon, does that make them a far right mob.
BBC will say its our black ancestors lol
rachel reeves is the spitting image of richard the 3rd
Agree !!
Please do not Insult much maligned King Richard. !!!
Who would have thought TDS was around that far back😂
The monarchy brought in a tax on burial plot sizes and the locals were exploiting a loophole that didn’t matter about the depth vertically.
She reminds me of Snape from Harry Potter.😮
When you close it up, stick starmer down there😂😂
Starmer the farmer harmer
@@IllllllllIlllllSS 2Tier, Free Gear, starmer the farmer harmer!
Wow this is crazy , cant wait to see what the DNA says.
The state of our Woke Academia , it will say they were all black and trans
Leicester sounds very interesting to see old relics 😊
Totally amazing and fascinating looking forward to finding out more once it's known ❤
Yes but are the burials "Diverse" ? . . Its important to know if this discovery is "Racist" . . . . Get Narinda Kaur on to advise us if it needs decolonisation
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Please put her in it? 800 years from now they will say it was a diverse burial 🪦 .
So fascinating.
Sounds like they were thrown down a well.
Maybe it was a well that dried up,so they repurposed it as a burial site.
Would they have used a contaminated well for the burial?
I thought that's a possibility, it would explain why the vertical burial. There was a case of a medieval disused well being discovered in Norwich, England, that contained multiple bodies. However, these bodies showed signs of pre-mortem damage such as decapitation and other injuries. I believe they were the result of a Jewish pogrom, a very sad part of our history. It was deemed an unusual burial and the bodies were not buried with care but thrown in one atop the other, men, women and children. So the biggest difference in this case is that the bodies were buried with care. Perhaps vertical burials were practiced more often than previously supposed. I know vertical burials have been practiced by neolithic peoples and by native Americans, too. Vertical burial is sometimes a space saving measure but that seems fairly unlikely in this case if only 300-odd people were living there.
They must of seen a labour government coming and committed suicide then jumped on to each other
History Records from the time record the Heating allowance was withdrawn to see what the result would be for future generations 😂🤬🤣🤬 it was a Labour of an experiment.
Labour or Conservative, they're both as bad as each other! 😂😂😂
@cleoldbagtraallsorts3380 agree completely
it was the Pringle family
That comment really made me laugh! 🤣🤣🤣
Very interesting, glad they got Ashley back 🙂
buried in a well .....simples
I was just thinking that
So the body at the bottom must have been down 650 to 700 feet.
As has been suggested there was probably one group 'standing' on top of another group. Seems more plausible. I'd love to know.
There was a Jewish pogram in England about 1190. Could these burials be involved in that event. 1190 could be within the margins of error in Carbon dating. Could the fact that they are buried vertical that a water well was used.
I cannot remember the programme but there is documented evidence that whole families of Jews were indeed thrown down a well here in Britain, the poor blighters were persecuted and when they didn’t cowtow to the townsfolk they were hoisted out of their homes and deposited down the well. Wish I could remember but it was quite a few years ago I saw it.
@@GS-dc4dtI’m sure that was time team I seem to remember that.
How could they have buried them standing vertically on top of each other ? I doubt they would even have been able to dig a hole over 10 feet deep without it collapsing in.
You can dig holes over 10ft deep without collapse or support, I've seen my own father do it when he got rid of construction waste after renovating one of our homes. But it depends on the soil. You can dig out wells,mine shafts etc by hand. Neolithic people managed it with bone and flint tools at Grimes Graves in Norfolk, England for example, and that's a LONG time before the 1200s! You can also reinforce the sides with wood or other materials. I'm assuming if these burials were done with care that the corpses at the bottom were put in place and supported by soil and another layer put over their heads, then the next layer of corpses and so on. It's labour intensive but certainly not impossible.
I assume that the grave wasn't just one person wide.
@@aesopstortoise That would make more sense.
Reperations for the anglo saxons from the french (Normans)?
Danes bro not french lol
Swedish
I am intrigued by the digging involved…like digging a well…or did they use a handy defunct well…..
Plague pit..
I’m curious they were buried vertically. I’ve never heard of that.
Quick, call David Olusoga - I'm sure he has a compelling answer for this......
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12th century?? Knights templar age??
Maybe theyre turning in their graves that much theyve unearthed themselves lol??
Random theory 😂
Edit: Can we apply for reparations of any kind?? Asking for a friend.
They built the car park on holy ground
Whether car park or church they’re both built for collecting money from the public.
People of Leicester were trying to grow human trees
Rachel Reeves has faithfully kept Richard III haircut.
Vertical burial plots due to the monarchy and lord blackstarmer of toolmakerstone introducing a limit on plot size so they exploited a loophole by burying them vertically😂
Maybe they were dropped down a well ?
Stacking bodis is not unusual. Family burial sights are known to stack bodies
Yes, but not standing them one on top of the other.
Don’t give labour any ideas of hate crime punishments
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Buried standing up used to be known as a pauper's grave.
Why not interview the actual archaeologist directing the excavations ??? Duuuh ..
Population control
They are lying about dates!!
They were birmingham city supporters who foolishly thought they could take leicester.
Thrown down a well maybe…..
Having trouble picturing 130 people vertically stacked upright on each other how deep is this shaft is it a single shaft or multiple shafts assuming an average height per person of say 5-5 Ft x 130 = 715 Ft deep
Interesting
Reparations?.....just asking in case im related...
Sounds like there were alot of deaths at once and decision was mad the bury the biodies vertically down a well. G Ire
Could it be that they were buried vertically because the space available was very limited?
Leicester is no longer an English city.
This is how the city of Leicester delt with their illegal immigrants arriving in dinghies, back in the 12th century..Or maybe their citizens weren't taxed heavily enough, and therefore this village succumbed to the effects climate change.
So how deep is it? 5x123 feet give or take? I don’t believe they’ve dug 600 feet lol.
Could be they had limited space so dug deep holes did one row at a time then supported the bodies with heavy soil before starting on the next row.
Oh dear!!!!. It's like watching a movie and the end reveal is lost. Cheers Rosemary Western Australia 74yrs
Andrew Bridgen's ancesters asking too many awkwards questions?
How deep was the hole? Feet on head?
I know.
If they were 5'5 each it would be 675.5 feet or 208 meters.
It does suggest also that it was consecrated ground already at that earlier date...
Very late for human sacrifice, it would have been done away with by then. Rural, very isolated places may have possibly continued the practice in secret. But this was a town and the bodies had no signs of homicide, so I think that's extremely unlikely.
Life back then was so interesting.
It's fascinating not like now.
Personally I mistrust the Richard 111 narrative. A winning army would abuse a body of enemy King in that era. The corpse would not be laid out in a grave for people to discover centuries later.
Wadda bawlz up of an interview!
Sounds like a well or mine shaft of some sort, nobody digs straight down to bury bodies.
I suspect they are older than thought and are Roman.
who dug the bloomin hole
Cool
123 people? How you dig out a pit this deep, with those technologies? Weird - weird.
Couple of thousand years after the pyramids, don't underestimate human ingenuity
No, the 1200s are A.D, not B.C.
@@michaeldunham3385 Agreed about pyramids. After 500 years of dark ages, in England (not in Egypt), for 123 people, time 5ft tall each average = 600ft=200m. How, in the 12th c., do you dig out a 200m-deep 0,5m wide well? Not every coal mine today is 200m deep.
Or were there multiple wells less deep? More like a wider burial terrain?
I guess we need more data on what exactly was discovered.
@williammkydde did they claim they were buried head to foot on top of each other? No they didn't did they
@@michaeldunham3385 Michael, I have just found a report in The Guardian (the 1st one randomly from google search). Of course, they were not buried upright, feet to head; that was a misrepresentation. The bodies were dumped in a relatively narrow shaft, in disorder. No traces of violence.
Quick sand,They were just unlucky.
They talked about this elsewhere. The bodies are all tidy and intact, so must have been wrapped up in shrouds, before being dropped into the pit or shaft. There are from memory about 160 bodies? Don't quote me on that. They include men, women and children. In the Anglo Saxon Chronicles, or recorded history of the time, they describe assorted plagues and pestilence killing a lot of people at this time, and they think these people died from some plague. Samples have been sent off for testing.
mass murderer dropped the bodies down a well!
Wow, just woq😮
Perhaps it was a hospital of some sort
I read (years ago) that he was buried in an old convents? Garden. Sorry if I'm wrong. K's mother.
Perhaps at the time it was within a walled city and they used an old dry well to solve the problem of multiple burials.
What I want to know is who dug the burial pit
The bloke at the bottom of the pile.
The one who dunnit 😂
A very clever person!
Possibly buried alive.., no injury to body. Maybe like an oubliette
Wonder how deep it was as burying vertically would use up a lot of space,
I was going to say anarchy there was a lot of that back in the day it's so sad ❤
Could it be a mass burial from the anarchy.
A well.buried alive.after the plague .
Maybe illegal immigrants?
Aliens👽
Probably a monastery?
Do they know what gender they identified as.
What their pronouns where ????
Human sacrifice? Just saying this because of the strange way they’re buried.
Aliens soon they will return to give the answer 👽
I say vampires
Latest theory is an early attempt at the………..Guinness book of records and a John noakes cover up 🤒
You are showing your age! And I agree. 😊
Vaccine back in the day way way back
Sars-1219
He doesnt know.
They all had Covid shots.
Plague victims or victims of war.
Well or mineshaft repurposed for burial. DNA and dating of bones will tell us.
Labour party supporters 😅😅
This is not new news.
It's better than the news though!
Just leave them alone, if they was Indian or Asian bones they'd have a protection order on them not to move them
marvelous.....i forgive you...... lovely comments very interesting hook......the mystery eh 😂
Early groomers? Leicester has always been the grooming capital.