The Acolyte Episode 3 DIDN'T Ruin Anakin Skywalker or The Jedi
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- No, The Acolyte didn't ruin Anakin or make the Jedi evil.
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I’m impressed that you can actually defend this.
Maybe he’s hoping to get picked up by Disney because I can’t stand how clearly the mega woke Disney is full of bigots.
It's also what I would have said, but Simon puts it more eloquently.
Yes it did its ruined Star Wars forever. Stop trying to defend the indefensible because you are desperate to appear virtuous on the internet.
I disagree. Simon's points are completely valid in that a lot of the hate this series has been getting has been on a few key points that aren't even clear that they're wrong to begin with.
Mystery? There’s no mystery… the only mystery is who the hell sat in the editor’s room and said “yeah this great”
I disagree. Simon's points are completely valid in that a lot of the hate this series has been getting has been on a few key points that aren't even clear that they're wrong to begin with.
@@admiralthrawn7754 there are so many ways they could’ve kept the twin secret going… I’m glad a terrible show makes you happy. If I went to a futbol match, and after seeing my team get obliterated, I’m not going to say “oh well, they’ve lost every game this year but at least the beer was cold.”
@@BuddahmonkI am happy. There's nothing wrong with that.
i didnt because we can all collectively agree its fan fiction
Not all.
Anything not made by George can be considered fan fiction. 😅 all the legends fans that want Mara jade to be Canon would have hated George's 7,8 &9. because he likely would have made her non Canon as well
Watching some defend a pile of shitte is sad and funny 😂
I disagree. Simon's points are completely valid in that a lot of the hate this series has been getting has been on a few key points that aren't even clear that they're wrong to begin with.
Are we going to talk about that fact that Leslie Hedland is Harvey Winestein's personal Assistant?
*Was and for 1 year, is anyone associated with Weinstein automatically a bad person now?
@@SimonTalksStarWarsnot me
@@SimonTalksStarWars That depends. If you don't want to be associated with him or you didn't know about the thing he was doing, then you're not at fault. But if you knew and still said nothing, then yes. But Leslie Hedland had the audacity to attack the fans for not watching it, for criticizing it and saying why didn't you see our show. Because they said Don't watch it if you don't like it.
UA-cam censored me a day ago for doing that.
@@SimonTalksStarWarsby default. Yes. You know what you're getting yourself Into
I don’t think you really understand the years of gaslighting, the bullying, and they even said this was our fault it turned out like this. That makes no damn sense, I wasn’t in the writers room, because if I was I would have straight up told them to cut there shit and actually use there damn brains, nothing about this makes any sense especially the lesbian witch’s, they say to not use the force as a weapon but immediately use it as a weapon, how embarrassing. You’re completely free to like this and I’m also free to not click the subscribe button
Dude are you actually saying you’re being gaslighted to watch a tv show 💀 bro just watch what you want to watch. “Oh the billion dollar corporation bullied me” how? Because someone made a tweet once that to somehow got offended over? Star Wars fans are a joke.
Also if you want to tell someone to use their brains…. You don’t say there. You should probably learn the difference between, their, there, and they’re before you insult someone else’s writing ability lmfao
@@withinthrall1445 what rock have you been living under my guy? Have you not been apart of society within the last 13 years? What brainwashing garbage have you watched to think that these people aren’t the WORST thing ever to happen to Hollywood, the second we let theses people start to insult countless people they lost the war, the evidence is out there and that’s why I say you and this man are both under a damn rock being completely unaware somehow of how these people are willing to sink to any depth, use any celebrity we used to like to parrot there message, remember when the used the actor for obi wan to attack fans after his show came out, oh wait you didn’t because you haven’t been paying any damn attention to how these people carry themselves and treat others. Call me pathetic all you want my guy but to excuse these god awful behavior is how we all got to this point anyways, we deserve better then this slop and hope you realize that, you k ow what they say right. If you except there trash all we will ever get is trash
@@withinthrall1445 oh also here’s a pro tip for winning an argument, don’t use the skull emoji, it instantly makes you seem less then room temperature IQ, and that makes me feel sorry for you, I’d say go back to school but that’s probably the place that ruined you already. You know nothing Jon snow
You're right. I don't understand the years of gaslighting, the bullying, and they even said this was our fault it turned out like this. Maybe it's because people you listen to told you this and you didn't straight up check them on their claims and call them out on it. Ever wonder why they keep on making claims that so-and-so have made this tweet, and that it's been taken down? Maybe it's because these content creators photoshop tweets, present them like evidence to you like it's the real deal, and then when you try to verify it, they claim that it was taken down to explain why you can't find the tweet anymore. And that they keep you hooked because it's drama and it's good at growing the youtube algorithm, even if it's complete BS.
If I were you, I would start double-checking your sources @lumskull1084
Tell me you're a Disney shills without telling me you're one
I disagree. Simon's points are completely valid in that a lot of the hate this series has been getting has been on a few key points that aren't even clear that they're wrong to begin with.
@@admiralthrawn7754lol good little bot
@@alizaidi2893lol good little troll😅
As always your takes are balanced. Thank you for being you.
You must have watched a different show. IT WAS GOD AWFUL! 1. Flat angles and as a director that should never happen. 2. Absolutely horrible acting, again Hedland showing her inexperience with this scale of project. 3. All the sets looked fake & cheap especially for 180 million budget. Note: watch "The Creator" 80 million budget looked like 180 million. How about shooting in real locations. 4. Story not compelling enough to justify or necessitate a whole series. Once again turning the Jedi into the villians - child protective services? What the hell is that about. 5. The witches angle in SW - are you serious! 6. Getting sick of hiring people based on DEI bullshit instead of merit & talent. Lucas Film is a disaster zone. Thanks Kathleen Kennedy.
The show is at best bland, at worst laughable. That would be bad enough, but coupled with a set of creators and actors, many of whom are annoying, self-righteous and self-obsessed, the project was always doomed to be rubbish. That being said, I absolutely love the show. The chanting scene was one of the funniest things I've ever seen and, as a big fan of the 'so bad it's good' genre, I'm really glad to have something new to watch. It takes real effort and commitment (mixed with delusions of grandeur) to fail this hard. It's wonderful. 10/10
Aw, Zuko carrying a plush kitty.🖤
This ruined the uniqueness of Anakin because it is very similar. Yes, there are differences, but in both cases, the key points are the Force and not having a father.
In my opinion, it would be better if the twins were just normal and had a father or were adopted.
And it definitely destroyed the logic of the Sith. A group of witches possesses knowledge of creating life before the Sith.
So the Sith didn't discover this knowledge? Didn't sense it? How?
Ok, I understand that a few generations might have missed it, but here we are talking about a line that spans millennia, with each succeeding Sith becoming stronger and more fascinated by such topics.
This is an obvious disturbance in the Force and should immediately attract the attention of a Sith.
Additionally, this makes Darth Plagueis not "The Wise" because he just stole someone else's knowledge. It would be better if the Sith discovered new knowledge themselves and made progress on their own, especially in such crucial knowledge.
Furthermore, according to this logic, Darth Plagueis shouldn't be the first to discover this knowledge and create life with the Force if it has been so normalized. This secret should have been discovered much earlier, and Darth Plagueis and Palpatine should have gone even further.
In this case, the Sith are made to look like literal idiots because they wanted to discover something that was already known by a group of witches and could simply be taken from them.
This is the biggest flaw that, in my opinion, makes no sense.
The Sith aren't all knowing or all wise though. Other force groups exist and will have knowledge others don't. The Sith can't sense EVERYTHING. That's the problem, stop thinking that just because Plagueis is powerful that he can do anything, why didn't he stop his apprentice killing him, THAT is much more stupid than anything the Acolyte has done so far.
If the twins go on to bring down the Jedi Order and then the Sith, I'll apologise and retract my statement about Anakin but until that happens Anakin is still unique.
@@SimonTalksStarWars Did I say that the twins would destroy the Jedi Order? No.
What I’m talking about here is the similarity. Ok, they are different, but I don't like the idea of creating life with the Force.
Anakin is unique and will be unique, but the definition of the Chosen One perfectly fit that he had no father, because he was created by the Force. This was unique, visible, and mysterious in Anakin as the Chosen One when we first saw him in The Phantom Menace.
That's why I would prefer if the twins were just normal.
And I know perfectly well that the Sith don’t possess all the knowledge, but they want to possess it. Through knowledge/power, they want to "break their chains" or limitations.
We are talking about a powerful ability that completely controls the Force to create life, and as I said, not every Sith had to sense it, but someone in that line should have. The fact that this knowledge existed and was used while the Sith searched for it for so long is simply ridiculous. I’m not a fan of this idea because, in my opinion, it was more interesting how the Sith discovered this secret themselves rather than stealing it from a group of random witches.
Additionally, we don’t know if this ability is even more common if a group of witches can do something like this. Why wouldn't someone else know or even discover this knowledge?
"the key points are the Force and not having a father." Lots of people have no fathers.
"A group of witches possesses knowledge of creating life before the Sith." Do they?
"So the Sith didn't discover this knowledge?" They didn't?
"Didn't sense it?" They didn't?
"How?" Might that be answered later in the series?
"This is an obvious disturbance in the Force" Is it?
" and should immediately attract the attention of a Sith." It didn't?
"Additionally, this makes Darth Plagueis not "The Wise" because he just stole someone else's knowledge." Did he?
"It would be better if the Sith discovered new knowledge themselves and made progress on their own, especially in such crucial knowledge." They didn't?
"Furthermore, according to this logic" *What* logic? You've jumped to almost a dozen conclusions in a single paragraph, and there is a noteworthy lack of evidence to support any of them.
@@TheInfiniteSheldon "and there is a noteworthy lack of evidence to support any of them."
I mean, you are doing the same thing here too without citations...
@@Mad_Catter_ "I mean, you are doing the same thing here too without citations..."
The burden of proof is on the one making the claims...
Nuance is important. Thanks Simon.
Looking good btw!
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Comparing Anakin to a school shooter is wild
A true fan, thank you
Anakin turned to the dark side once he realised his woman is in danger. Anakin turned to the light side again once he realised his son is in danger. There is really no complex stuff behind this
It’s just a very very very poorly written and cheap looking show.
It’s not so much that it looks cheap just looks like shit
Why?
@@Acetheskyhook Bad showrunners and writers. That's why.
Well, to be honest, we found one part of the piece for the motive. We need to find the rest and I agree Simon judgement cannot be given yet. I even saw a few people who even agreed with me.
There must be something that can lead us to the mystery master
Just tell us how much your integrity is worth?
With the bisexual lighting and everything. The inspiration for Anakin's mode of birth was Jesus fucking Christ.
You don’t need to defend every poor thing Disney makes. They will continue to put our low quality while people defend. What they’ve done with the twins is similar to retcon of the timeless child in doctor who.
Ep3 is bad, mae is raging psychopath, you leave, you! Family entertainment if I ever heard! Burning fond a stone fortress and killing all the witches with the Jedi being child protective services. This show is a therapy session for headland. How are you sitting here with a straight face defending this?
Another tool that won't think for himself
Its no bad thing I don't think, that writers invent new territory for an old franchise to explore. This is not that. Leslie Hedland has inserted herself personally here, without love or reverence for the material, like some spoilt petty child on a vendetta of spite against fans for some reason. Talk about a 'follower of power'. Have you looked into what kind of a person she is? And what do you think Disney is? And the vomit-inducing amounts of money thrown at this, in pathetic attempts to prop up agendas and careers. This is all ok with you it sounds like. But all those fans, they are obviously evil. Multi billion dollar company and its paid for media said so.
It severely damaged anakins story
Thanks for having some sense. The majority of the outrage over this episode is solely down to complete misunderstanding of it
Disney Wars is a complete misunderstanding of Star Wars.
“Most unique character” completely defends on losing the one thing that made him the most unique by talking about personality traits nearly half the characters have 🤦🏻♂️😂😂 this guy has missed the point of Star Wars
He is a Disney shill what do you expect from him this idiot thinks Lesley Headland only worked for a year for Harvey😂😂😂😂 eventhough it has been stated she worked for Harvey Weinstein for 4 years 😂😂😂😂
Disney destroyed Star Wars with The Last Jedi. There’s nothing left to ruin.
I agree. Anakin is very much loved because he is flawed. He is human. He had his downfall but he was able to redeem himself.
I feel like we need to keep watching to find out what happens. The episode 3 i expect is from the perspective of osha.
It was pure garbage and a dumpster fire. Horrible show.
Agree. Unfortunately it seems that that part of the fandom is falling into the rigidity of the Jedi ... their way of thinking about SW is the right and only valid way . The intolerance that section of the fandom has for other people's opinion is insane, they become really abusive.
And unfortunately they are very vocal. I have no idea what the solution is so we can have civil discussions but I am afraid the dramas will continue till the series end.
the ironic part is that most of them haven't even watch it, just the videos that the UA-camrs are spewing.
I just dont agree with that, sure there are people hard on each sides, but you are suggesting that those who believe this is lore breaking are wrong and cant have a balanced argument? There are openly racist bigots who get invited to Lucasfilm defending every aspect of this show, dont try and say one side good one bad, everyone can have an opinion.
@@philsmith4125 you are putting words into my mouth. Read again please.
I am talking about the part of the fandom that think this is breaking lore because they know the truth and can’t accept other opinions.
I do talk about having civil discussions in my comment. I am all for different takes. Everyone is entitled to have their own opinion. You can like this show or not but to abuse and to consider that you are the “holder” of the only truth possible about SE lore denotes a high level of intolerance . That’s my point. Hope it makes sense now.
@@philsmith4125 also, out of curiosity, who are those “openly racists bigots” that got invited to Lucasfilm? The ones I saw on some blogs are not that . Maybe I missed some.
Skywalkers are flawed
A lot of grown adults complaining that fictional Star Wars has been ruined "forever"😄.
How are they all missing that this is just one of many, many chapters in the Star Wars story? How would one incident make all Jedi evil? Did Anakin going around killing children make the rest of the Jedi evil? They are showing the flaws of some Jedi, at _that_ particular time - why's that so difficult to understand? How would the twins' conception via witchcraft cancel out Anakin's conception which was "natural"🤔? In a gigantic galaxy, is it not conceivable that similar things can happen within hundreds of thousands of years? History repeats itself all the time on _this_ planet.
Complaining about lesbian witches😄.
If you don't like it, stop watching it - easy to do and will save you from a lot of unnecessary stress-related issues.
Truth be told even if the chosen one prophecy was ruined would it be that great of a loss? Chosen one plot points are dumb.
Nothing in and of itself is dumb, only the execution of it. Or at least I thought that, until they released this show. Redoing the Force birthing stuff reeks of “look at our cool new characters, they did the thing first!”
@@kingkwon8002 chosen one plot points are dumb, period. The reason is that the character could be the most skilled or unskilled person in existence and it wouldn’t matter, they were arbitrarily chosen to do something by a higher power for no discernible reason. Take Anakin, he was chosen to essentially genocide the Jedi, slaughtering the kids too, and then kill maybe about a billion other people over the next two decades, and after all of that he fulfills the prophecy by killing one Sith Lord. To frame all that as a chosen one prophecy plot device makes me think this universe’s higher power is not a good one if it involves that much death to “restore balance to the force.”
@@lazymansload520 Chosen one or not, Anakin’s rise, fall and redemption is (imo at least) a good story.
@@kingkwon8002 which means the chosen one plot point is an utterly pointless one to throw in
@@lazymansload520 Not even close. It was the only reason why Qui Gon decided to take him in. The only reason why Obi Wan swore to train him. And the only reason why the council allowed it. It’s fine if you hate the trope, but it certainly wasn’t pointless.
The trouble with a lot of viewers of Star Wars programmes, it seems to me, is that they want them to be a certain way...and that is impossible unless they are the writer themselves. There are Star Wars programmes that I haven't particularly liked, but I've never got angry or shouted about it...but then, I was alive before Star Wars, so that might have something to do with it...
To be honest I’m finding an interesting okay it’s not the best or it’s certainly not awful but we have to use that to maybe make improvements for the future but in the end everyone just wants to rant and enforce for their opinion and throw everything away for what heartbreak? Thinking everything broken what’s more important?
Saving those we care which in turn means improvements or our personal ambitions which in return everyone suffers.
It’s cold blooded User.
Bullshit. the Jedi are perfect, never makes mistakes, except banishing Ashoka among the Jedi, and failing and anger Anakin. Because they did a mistake and is not accepting. Learn more before you talk and trying to defend something which is not try to follow any canon. And take this Acolyte as a canon will be the biggest mistake. This far far away from the original trilogy, is a lot of bullshit nowdays.
It was just pure garbage. I'm a woman so I don't like it just because it's female leads and was a huge fan till this crap.
Well said! Respect to you for being brave enough to call out the ignoramus.
This show didn't break or retcon anything. The witches just use and worship the force in a different way, just like another religion. Was the witches ascension ceremony super cringe, yes, could the flashback been done in half an episode, yes, could the episode have answered more questions, yes. All that being said, I am willing to let it play out and see where it goes. I am very intrigued by what/who killed the witches as the fire was not enough, nor was May, and the jedi in the present time are incredibly guilty over that nights events, so...
To be honest, it wouldn’t be the first time if we see it from other references
i respect that you've argued in favour of the show without just calling everyone a bigot/racist like the creators. But come on, this show is really bad. Are review bombs a thing, sure, but they do not cause shows to get 15% audience score. Rings of Power and Dr Who will have had similar treatment from review bombing and they are rated significantly higher. Also, House of the dragon shows us that people don't review bomb things unless they are actually bad. The knives were out and ready for Hotd after the GoT ending but the quality of the show won people over.
Hello. Are there cats on term in your area? Looks like Zuko wants to mate. ❤
Bro like what? Get your facts straight... cause you missed the why Anakin is ruined...
stereotypes seem to be real. The writing of the show is absolutely terrible. Its unbelievable. Lay off the seed oils.
Let's say the bible had a bunch of other people dying for our sins in very similar way to Jesus. You don't think that would damage the Jesus story? 😂😂😂
i'm finding it very hard to get into this show if im honest, but im glad some people are enjoying it. we all want to enjoy star wars after all.
“the Jedi are evil " 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Look, I know it's not canon anymore, ok, I get it..... But does anyone remember the story of Zayne Carrick? If you do, first of all, you're a real one lol. But second of all... THOSE are what I call evil Jedi Masters. And even within canon, the entirety of the Clone Wars was fought, albeit largely unknowingly, in service of a frickin' Sith Lord. Oh, and then there's the bit where they trained literal child soldiers to fight, kill, and die, in said war...alongside a forcefully-grown borderline slave clone army..Obi-wan and Yoda , often praised to a nauseating and disturbing degree as the best Jedi ever, trained Luke to kill Vader, positioning the entire endeavor as justice for the death of his father, conveniently hiding the fact that Darth Vader IS his father. And yeah, it's later revealed in books that they were supposedly gonna tell him after he completed his training.. They STILL recruited a boy to kill his father by lying to him..
Gripe all you want about the show, I myself despise it. But don't act like this show is what SUDDENLY puts the laser sword wielding space monks in bad view. Been this way since A New Hope, and was defended by “oh i told you the truth, just in a different point of view "..... HOW TF ARE PEOPLE JUST GETTING MAD NOW?!!?
i agree although to be fair yoda and obi wan were obviously pretty terrified of luke turning out like vader so it makes sense that they would hide it from him. They havent shown it yet but the acolyte series is clearly gonna have the jedi end up killing all the witches in the coven or something which is pretty ridiculous and just not believable to me but its pretty much the only way i can see the guilt being so heavy for the 30 year old grandpa Torbin guy to agree to killing himself so easily.
also i agree that the jedi were already so flawed by time of the clone wars that it made it even easier for palpatine to find way of forcing them down certain paths, for instance the jedi were already tied to the government and starting to act as form of military or police before the clone wars, this along with their other dogmatic views and their fear of the sith cut them off so much from the force and what they were meant to be that it made staying under the radar a piece of cake for palpatine. He was able to gain power and set up the droid and clone army at the same time which left the jedi with the choice to use the clones that they had, or turn them away and somehow find another army big enough to face the droids numbers. which is really no choice at all, if they didnt use the clones they wouldve lost and if they did then it was obviously a bit fucked up and then they end up losing anyway, because palpatine had all of his bases covered, he had no way to lose lol.
So while theyre definitely in the wrong morally around the clone wars era, they had no other options that i see anyway. i will grant you however that theres no real excuse for the child soldiers part, that cant be defended lol, the padawans shouldve been left out of the war, hell all the jedi shouldve been left out of the war but again they didnt have much choice.
I get what you're saying about why they didn't tell Luke. Seriously, thank you for your input on that. However... When it comes to that specific topic, it's too much of a risk either way. Anakin hated being lied to, hated information being kept from him. If Luke was indeed like Anakin in that regard, then their decision to hide that information from him would instead serve as the reason why he goes dark side. I don't know, there's risk either way. What I am a thousand percent certain of: Jedi should never have been put into the role of parental figures, in any canonized point of their existence.
@@Shadow_Robotnik yea i see what you mean for sure, it really goes to show how flawed the republic jedi were, if even after order66 the wise obi wan and yoda of all ppl are still making the same mistakes again. they fr got lucky that luke didnt see it that way lol. and im not sure i understood what you mean about the parental figure thing if you could elaborate? unless you were meaning like the role of a master to a padawan maybe
With the exception of Anakin and very few others, younglings are taken from their birth parents while they're young enough to not consciously remember any kind of familial attachment whatsoever, effectively making the Jedi Order the only family they've ever known. Imagine what that's gotta be like, though: your natural instinct is to bond with those who raise you, but you're constantly being cold-shouldered, told that attachments are bad and dangerous. When you do reach the status of a Padawan, you're assigned to a Jedi Knight, someone that is closest connection you'll ever have to a father or a mother, but again, you're rebuked and lectured about such attachments being wrong within the ways of the Jedi. Basically they took you away from your biological family.... To then raise you to believe that the concept of family ties is wrong. It's a miracle most of them didn't end up psychopathic.
@@Shadow_Robotnik yep, again your not wrong. just lends credence to how strange the later generations of jedi were, because i feel like there was definitely one point where they didnt feel the need to only train younglings and wouldve accepted anyone with force sensitivity but again i would assume that over the hundreds of years, some jedi that were trained that way would have fallen to the dark side and the jedi end up thinking that it was because of the attachments, so they become scared of it and make rules against such things and stop taking adults or even children that are older than toddlers because it would be too much of a risk for them which is kinda crazy when you think of it that way.
thinking about the origins of the jedi like that almost makes me wish we had a movie or show series about the first jedi and sith, it would be really cool to see how they discovered the first abilities and also see them fighting with vibro blades instead of lightsabers, as im assuming they wouldnt exist yet, although i dont think i trust disney to pull something like that off successfully lol
People don’t like the show because it’s absolutely terrible, cheap and creativity bland.
Not because they ‘don’t understand’ it
I could write many things praising this video, but i will just say this. Thank you for exisiting Simon, and being apart of the star wars community. Not many people like u left.
The Acolyte doesnt break anything since its not canon in my eyes. Disney star wars is the worst type of fan fiction
Once again, thank you so much for making these videos. Just nice to know there are people who are actually willing to watch The Acolyte and not be negative all the time. Everywhere I go across social media, all I see is negative and toxic comments about the show and it honestly breaks my heart
Explain what is toxic about these comments? Is any criticism labelled toxic? The show legitimately has a lot of issues, and it is being swept under the rug by reviewers like these. Did you even pause to consider as to why or that they could be wrong?
@@eddiek8179 they won't answer ypu becuase their basically a cult at this point a cringy dinsey cult
Bro they stripped Anakin of what made him the Chosen One, which is what brought everything in Star Wars into motion. They did ruin everything
I believe the writers intended it to steer the star wars universe towards a LGBT fantasy universe were same sex couples can procreate, which I feel is forced. Given that, wasn't ancient sith alchemy a thing? Didn't ancient sith use the dark side to corrupt and twist living beings into monsters? Were any of those monsters created? If so, can't this be an example of unnatural, dark side force manipulation that resulted in these twins? Anakin is something different and came about naturally.
What's natural about a virgin birth exactly?
@@SimonTalksStarWars I meant natural as in a spontaneous event and not a result of a force ritual.
Where's that clip of JK Simmons laughing when I need it.
Firstly Anakin was concieved by the force, by manipulation of Plagueis, but all of a sudden some witches from Lameville also can? And the Jedi FORCE children of 8 years or more of age to take the tests, when only children much younger CAN take the tests to potentially be trained and you sir, are saying no it didn't ruin Anakin or the jedi? Hell from where I stand it ruined the entire legacy of Lucas' Star Wars. This is exactly what happens when untalented actors are forced out of their shell by casting crews, producers, showrunners to perform outside of their box, their zone of comfort, consider also this: *writers* in this show are on their best of day mediocre, 3 episodes down and a massive back lash, why? well political ideology, make everything diverse, make everything lgbtq, make everything political, they not even know the lore, saga, characters, who did what, who is who and aparently it's not ruined?! How to make a sequel of a show, movie, whatever: check the audience, by gender, age, skin colour, country, etc... after that, see what the fans would like polls, ideas, search reddits, youtubes, etc... after that you realize OH my target audience is X Y or Z. But alas, nowadays diversity and bad writing is being force-fed down everyone's throats. In sum? Yes, it is absolutely ruined.
The only backlash is from the usual basement dwelling incels who follow rich grifters that blatently lie when they claim "I'm done, Star Wars is dead" 20 times a year only to keep watching because those incels keep clicking the videos making them richer.
@@SimonTalksStarWars Unsure of whom you speak of, as a fan of cinematography, I enjoyed so far most episodes and spin offs since disney purchased, with exception to the last two movies from the sequel trilogy, after all the casino escape in the last jedi must be the most badly written piece, them...alien animals outrunning fighters is frankly ridiculous, but about incels, well let's talk about those: If Lucas created the show and added GREAT stories and diversity shouldn't the EXACT formula be maintained? Yes. and why? Because it worked perfectly, flawlessly, the audience loved it, and therefore that should be the target audience aka "nerds" but you refer to them as...Incels? What in the hell does ...twitch incels or whatever have to do with ANYTHING? Or even simps for that matter sure. The answer is absolutely nothing. There was a backlash with Ahsoka with frankly I absolutely loved and I'm sure many have as well, except for a few sequences but well, can't be always perfect. But with THIS? This! doesn't keep formulas, source material, destroys indeed the legacy and story arc of Anakin, Shmi, Plagueis which we know little about compared with other characters and allows for virtually anyone to do the exact same, all you need is a female and someone who can....use the force to make new babies who are force sensitive. If you had paid attention to the interviews before it aired, if you had paid attention to miniscule maybe even somewhat trivial phrases and or messages you'd see how wrong you are. Also for a project of 180 million don't you think..the writing could've been BETTER? The actors too, hell everything in that show seems written by someone with an agenda for force feeding diversity like i mentioned, instead of writing a great story, they chose a different path, this show is one massive nail in a coffin of Lucas' creation.
Muddy the waters mate? This review is pretty bad and you really think it‘s a minority of fans being frustrated? Wake up😂
The numbers tell otherwise.
Pay attention to the actual lore and watch some interviews with Ms. Headland talking about starwars and the force.😅
But I‘m really glad you’re enjoying this sh*tshow mate😂
You know i don't even care the last Star Wars movie i actually enjoyed was rouge one...after that the IP is dead [Beside the Mandalorian which slowly get fucked too] also if i remember currectly the women behind the Star Wars IP stated that she means to use the franchise to hurt people and force her view on others so there's that as well. Basically in my own point of view everything that disney makes is like a bad fanfiction i will not aknowlage as part of the Lore i just cringr,frown upon it then look away in utter disgust and move on with my life.
Also just a heads up people are entiteld to their opinons.
Who are you to tell us what did or didn’t ruin Anakin’s origin? You disney shill.
The show didn't ruin anything. We haven't even completed the series to even give it a complete assessment. So far, the show is giving audiences a different interpretation or perspective of the Force, from several years before Anakin was even born. I love Anakin, but as you've said, he is flawed, he is human, and he is relatable to a lot of people.
I think the show is good and promising so far, and the fact that there are those who are too closed-minded and not willing to give it a chance, and also who are toxic and vitriolic to the rest of the community just because Acolyte isn't for you, it's just lame. I wish they could take that energy and use it to be more vocal about real world issues. Not about a fantasy TV show / movie.
George didn't ruin Star Wars. JJ didn't ruin Star Wars. Jar Jar didn't ruin Star Wars. Kathleen didn't ruin Star Wars. A sect of the Star Wars fandom is ruining Star Wars.
You're a true fan. People aren't as upset about delegitimizing Anakin. They are heartbroken that their childhood IP has been hijacked by demons with twisted agendas. Hell, hath no fury like a Star Wars fan scorned
Well done. I'm going to disagree with you, slightly, though. If those witches would've turned the Jedi away, after how Master Indara said, "You can't deny that we have the right to train future Padawans", I seriously think it would not have ended well for that entire Coven. Whether it be pre-determined that they were dark side users or other reasons/excuses, I think the Jedi would use whatever means necessary to make sure that perceived dark siders are put down.
i mean they didnt go after the nightsisters like that so i dont think they would now, but theyre obviously written to be the bad guys in this story, so in this instance i could definitely see them doing that lol, but if the show wasnt trying to paint them as the bad ones then normally i dont think the jedi would even come for the girls to recruit them. Theyre both way too old, have formed bonds and attachments, and they still know their family which is usually avoided by recruiting them at a younger age, but even if the jedi had found the twins as a baby, i dont remember anytime that jedi would take the children from witches, if they did it would be more commonly seen because most of the witches seem to be force senstitive.
Thank you for having a normal take/reaction in a fucking sea of SW rage bait YT videos
Just found your channel, everything you said was very well said. I feel like a lot of people who are calling this “Fan Fiction” haven’t delved into the EU much or base everything off of the first 3 films. I played Dark Forces and DF 2 and even there you could see the muddy waters of what it means to be a force user. And as far as it being “written badly” I honestly don’t see it. I’ve seen some bad tv and films… this isn’t even close. Thanks for putting your opinion out there!
Rather than speculating or theorising about how this birthing from the Force/Thread works, I'm more keen to know WHY it was added and if it adds or takes away from the overall SW mythology. If George Lucas had written this story, would the reactions from fans be any different? I see some contributors going to great lengths to theorise about what's going on in the show, but I have very little faith in the writers coming up with equally deep, knowledgeable, lore-based plots, based upon the quality of some of the writing we've seen under Disney. And when you factor in good shows like Andor, what is highlighted is the inconsistency of the story-telling, scripts, dialogue, direction, acting and production across Disney SW's output.
I’m with you that it doesn’t make Anakin less special but balance is not equal light and dark
I’m just glad they didn’t completely copy the “ there’s no father it’s a mystery” process, there was no dark energy used to create these twins, no darth plagues shit, just witch lesbian magic
Witch Lesbian magic is such a cool line.
What's amazing about the acolyte is this.....
It's a genuine litmus test to determine who is being genuine, who is reacting in good faith, who genuinely cares about the future in star wars, who isn't lying to keep up some false stature to procure entitlements and packages that those who don't blindly accept everything are not privy to.
This show isn't just a bad star wars show, it's a genuinely bad show. Period.
The acting is unbelievably below par, the sets and costumes are underwhelming and lack passion. The dialogue is now officially the worst and most nonsensical I've ever heard. Even given the 'mystery' aspects, it's so poorly executed in its editing and tone that it doesn't lend the audience to care enough because is doesn't clue you in enough to the potential of what could actually happen.
It's just insanely bad writing and it's inexcusable. And why is this so important?
Because if we let this go, we set a standard. For now and for the future.
So yes. Fans are finally and almost unannomously not happy with this shoe. In particular that absolutely unforgivable 3rd episode.
This isn't acceptable for a 180 million dollar budget. For any project, let alone star wars.
Watch star wars theory he brings the facts, the guys been doing star war fact check for years
LOL, Mr Grifter himself.
❤@SimonTalksStarWars well I know their many problems like the lore anakin the chosen 1 was rejected from joining the jedi, the only reason he allowed to be trained was because kanobi threatened to leave. And somehow on episode 3 their recruiting over 8 years old kid. Since when the jedi does this. In last 50 years of lore anakin was the only 1. Somehow this is allowed. That is just 1 thing of all facts. George Lucas called disney out for ruining and not understanding star wars. This man is the founder of star wars and pointed these problems and Somehow disney and creaters like yourself are smarter than George Lucas. Give me a break. This episode was so bad that the founder was asked and caught on video how mad he is. But what can u do he no longer making decisions. I respect your opinions but when the founder of star wars hated what disney has done with the force and disagree with all this. What he said is lore. George Lucas cannon disney not cannon simple
@@MysticalCabal Oh dear that's not even close to be correct. Anakin being the chosen one is NOTHING to do with not being allowed to be trained and everything to do with the "prophecy" that George Lucas made up:
"Only through sacrifice of many Jedi will the Order cleanse the sin done to the nameless. The danger of the past is not past, but sleeps in an egg. When the egg cracks, it will threaten the galaxy entire. When the Force itself sickens, past and future must split and combine. A Chosen One shall come, born of no father, and through him will ultimate balance in the Force be restored."
As you can read, nothing about not being allowed to train and it only specifies that the chosen one would be MALE and born to no father. So the twins do nothing to ruin the prophecy or Anakin.
Star Wars Theory would be very disappointed in you for not knowing Anakin's lore.
As much as I think Acolyte is absolutely terrible I completely agree with you. It certainly doesn't ruin Anakin. And also we don't actually know how they were conceived yet. They may be clones for all we know. It also doesn't ruin the force in the any way. The main problem I have is there is now way the Jedi are training an 8 year old with massive trauma and attachment. Now if they say later on in the story we'll this is now why we don't train kids like that. Sure I can live with that but I feel like it's really out of the Jedis character. My point is let's wait until the season is done before casting too much judgement.
Finally someone talking sense.
This show didn't make the Jedi evil, they always were. It's a baby snatching cult with a good PR team.
Anyone who likes or defends this can't be taken seriously or call themselves a Star Wars fan. You havve the right to like it and/or defend it but the fact stands that you have no respect at all for the foundation of the lore of Star Wars, therefore you're not an actual fan of Star Wars. You're a fan of Disney.
Anakin is the choice one the force choice him to bring back balance to the force. The show now contradicts that and that the fact that palpatine took YEARS!!! Trying to figure out how to make force sensitive child and clones and struggled doing it. Had it been known that there was a way he would have done much sooner...and project necromancer wouldnt be a thing...the show is written pooring and shits on what George Lucas built
Thank you. And this guy is doing his damndest to protect Disney rn
Wish there would be more people talking about the high republic
whether or not the show is trying to paint a bad light on the jedi, from what weve learned the jedi had to have done something really fucked up in order for the guilt to be big enough that Torbin would kill himself. aside from that this episode just didnt make alot of sense, we dont know how the jedi found the girls, we dont know why they want the girls(normally the twins wouldnt have been taken into the order, they are way too old), Osha somehow likes jedi and wants to be one despite being raised around a community of ppl who despise jedi, somehow a fire spreads through a stone building, we didnt see how the witches died, and either mae is bipolar or her writing was just terrible because she goes from loving her sister to attempting to kill her in one day lol. so for me aside from any of the conception stuff or evil jedi, the whole episode left me confused and annoyed.
it's like yin and yang. Jedi side is male, female side is witch. They are in balance but if either side has a member slip (Dooku/Mother Korril) they turn to the dark side. Anakin is a paradox. So are the twins. But Anakin was born naturally from the male/light side naturally and the twins were born of the female/dark side unnaturally. The Force is male and female coming together. The witches didn't use a male. that we know of... Oh no Torbin!
Don’t change lore that the creator of star wars made. Simple. Let’s wait and see if the show can pull it back, but so far it’s not star wars, look at mando season 1 and 2, disney sw but stuck to the lore that GL created and expanded the universe and the same time. Yes there is other stories to tell but keep it inline with what star wars is.
People started judging the acolyte before it even came out.
I may understand the critism but people are quick to hate.
The show hasn't been perfect but the time period is interesting and the witches scene felt mystical.
I agree, my friend
I hard disagree with this Simon, I also massively disagree with those who are asuming that everyone who believes that this lore destruction is some kind of *ist, we need to respect others opinions. The truth is in the divide and the overall negativity towards the Acolyte, this show is NOT working.
Please stop watching Star Wars!! Leave youtube!!
Hahahahahajajaa How much did they pay you?! Hahahahahahahahahaha maybe you are woke
We need more trans space lesbians
You don’t need to defend every poor thing Disney makes. They will continue to put our low quality while people defend. What they’ve done with the twins is similar to retcon of the timeless child in doctor who.
Ep3 is bad, mae is raging psychopath, you leave, you! Family entertainment if I ever heard! Burning fond a stone fortress and killing all the witches with the Jedi being child protective services. This show is a therapy session for headland. How are you sitting here with a straight face defending this?