The part when Willis said when you loose even loosing a parking space hits you hard...took me back to when Kambua said sometimes we joins dots that are not to be joint and this just adds onto the pain.
Thank you Kambua for giving these men this platform to share their journeys. Thank you Willis, Omari and O'Neal for sharing and letting loss dads know their feelings are valid and it is okay to grieve.
Thank you Kambua..I had to spend my afternoon listening to this..After loosing my parent i felt that no one understands me..and i even separated my self..I am still healing and learning to accept that they are no longer with us..and mourning its not linear
You're young, don't worry you'll have another child. He's in heaven!!! That's the kind of crap I got. I wanted my baby boy.....and then my 2nd born was special and was sickly and that's a story for another day. We need to be super sensitive when you're around a mourning couple. Be silent and listen to them if they want to talk. I'm glad the men are vulnerable and they mourn as well! Good job kambua for bringing the dudes in this. I wish my hubby was still alive to see this....
I was told the same words, had traveled back to Kenya to get support during that difficult time! Weuh 😢 I booked a ✈️ back coz every day I was hurt more by words, I guess they didn't know how to handle me
People need to be sensitive when talking to a griefing mom how do you say you are young you will get another baby? Yet you know you cant replace the lost soul? I have been told so too by many peope others come to my Dm whenever i have those memories and post the kid...leaving some funny messages and comments...
God knew we needed these conversations and He sent Kambua.Good to see Willis and the other guys.We definitely need more men come next year Kambua.Sending so much love and prayers to anyone going through any of this.Merry Christmas
Sorry to all who have gone through the heartache of child loss,Willis is well spoken and animated,I saw a side of him that is different from who he was at ten over 10. Refreshing to hear the depths of men's feelings, more strength 🎉
Also for those who can't call or text,just send a card,you can write to and from and let the cards speak for you.Going completely silent seems a bit harsh and lack of etiquette imo
This is such a powerful conversation. Men need to be given such platforms more, to pour out and heal. It is so refreshing to see this. Also Willis is such an incredible communicator, not to say that others aren't, but he stands out.
Hey Kambua this conversation...I just gathered courage to talk with my spouse how I felt unsupported when we miscarriaged..and it's only now that I learn he was also pained and also needed help mentally....thank you ....we need more men maybe you can also share your husband's perspective throughout your journey
Holidays trigger or remind us of our loved ones in a really big way. Thanks Kambua for creating this space. I have teared up, reflecting on how we easily by pass the man when a couple loses a child. It's like the only valid grief is the mother's 😢😢😢. Please forgive us, we know better now and we'll do better as fellow humans.
This! This was way way profound. Thank you gentlemen for being candid and vulnerable. Thank you Kambua for handling such a heavy and important topic so gracefully. Thank you Jesus for allowing this
I just lost my Son 3 months ago & this Christmas season triggers it all. It's the first Christmas without him... It's too much grief.. It's too much for me/us as a family 😭😭😭😭😭
Thank you for creating this safe space for pouring out our emotions and learning from other people. Every time I feel I don't have strength to keep me going I come here and listen to these stories
I loved loved loved these two episodes. My goodness, so much to learn from the men's stories on how affected they actually get and should not be asked to be strong for anyone, not even their own wives. And then there is how we say all the wrong things because we feel we must say something when people are grieving...lessons learned.
Oh death 😭😭😭 it is a mystery and the pain is just a love that we have for the person and we want to express ..... That what grief is . I lost my sister and my niece 10month apart 😭😭😭😭 oh grief oh grief is painful .... God is still God and out of this pain God has brought out something in me that is a mystery and few are celebrating yet they have no idea the process of my becoming..... May God continue to comfort everyone who has lost a loved one and to this great men , thank you for sharing.
I relate so much with O'Neil wish could hear his story more .... Encouraging to know that its normal to blame your spouse ..i did that too in my grief .
This was deep men go through so much pain but society mostly focuses on the woman now I have a different perspective that men feel the pain n mourn too
This was so humbling, thank you all....Truly God is the same yesterday,today, and forever. 🎉🎉🎉 to all the Men who are battling something and to all of us
Thanks kambua ❤ I thank God for this session 🙏 glory to God who has healed this hurt souls...cause only Him understand why all this pain & suffering... O'Neal,Omar , Willis amazing hearing you speak out... crying isn't a weakness bt a way if expression
Its so good to hear the mens perspective on child and pregnancy loss, this was beautiful Kambua. Thank you for creating the space for this discussion, for sure, its making a difference.
There's so much merry making n we mostly forget such conversation need to be held . Thanks Kambua, .First time for me to watch n am already subscribed...
Salute to gentlemen for sharing their stories not easy but who is God. I thank God for He is a good God all through our life,He knows every reason for everything. We have a reason for trusting Him all the time. Am humbled and God bless you kambua
I have a COVID Baby and people I knew and close passed on I myself sensed I had COVID at some point coz I lost sense of smell and couldnt beleive my baby getting it and the last pregnancy before her I had miscarriaged at 3 months and wuuueeh I almost lost it.. BUT GOD.. HE IS INDEED A GOOD GOOD FATHER🙏 That's all i can say😢
Pole. Similar story I got a baby (miracle baby ) in 2021 and lost my mum same year. Yaani I can never wish that on anyone. Moving from joy to deep sorrow
Kambua this space really opened my heart n eyes am really grateful for alot..ipray iget to meet u oneday...and am sooo grateful now am pregnant almost due n such stories really mk you know n learn alot abt this life n journey
I am terribly sorry guys for your loss. I can only imagine how difficult and heart aching it must be to lose a child. What I also wanted to note is that we scapegoat God for the sin and the death and the pain, calamity, corruption, loss and lack we see in the world. We have blamed God for the death we see around us instead of blaming the sin/iniquity/missing the mark/not partaking of eternal life that entered this world through Adam’s sin. The wages of sin is death. Mankind concluded that God pays us with death because of our sin. Sin is the one that brings death in the world. Paul makes a clear statement that the wages of sin is death ”For the wages which sin pays is death, but the [bountiful] free GIFT of God is eternal life through (in union with) Jesus Christ our Lord.“ Romans 6:23 By one man sin entered Therefore, as sin came into the world through one man(Adam) and death as the result of sin, so death spread to all men, [no one being able to stop it or to escape its power] because all men sinned.“ Romans 5:12. The only thing God gives is eternal life. God can only give what He has in Himself. There is no darkness and death in God so how can God give us death? God is not the Author of Death. The only thing in God is light and life. Even God Himself died with the sin of the world but rose up on the third day. To show us that He is not the Author of death and when death came knocking at His door He was raised up and that kicking down the power of fear death held on us. Death is dead guys! Death is defeated and we have the light of life in Jesus. We need to see the book of Job and the Old Testament not carnally but spiritually. Not according to the Letter but according to the Spirit of the book. And Jesus is the Spirit of the whole Bible. In the Old Testament it was Christ concealed and the New Testament is Christ revealed for who He is “the word of God made flesh”. God needs to be sanctified in the eyes of the church. There is nowhere we Jesus brought death to anyone in the Gospels. And He said I only do what I see my Father do. When Jesus’ disciples wanted Jesus to call down fire to consume the Samaritans for denying them access through their town what did Jesus say to Peter? In fact the Bible says He rebuked them. ”And when His disciples James and John observed this, they said, Lord, do You wish us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, even as Elijah did? [II Kings 1:9-16.] But He turned and rebuked and severely censured them. He said, You do not know of what sort of spirit you are,“”For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them [from the penalty of eternal death]. And they journeyed on to another village.“ Luke 9:55,56 AMPC We live in a fallen world where sin and death is around us however in that we have light and life and death is defeated and will be completely eradicated when death will put in the lake of fire. Rev. 20:14.
I Love it when men are opening up. such bravery.....
The part when Willis said when you loose even loosing a parking space hits you hard...took me back to when Kambua said sometimes we joins dots that are not to be joint and this just adds onto the pain.
Exactly…pain can make you see things from a skewed angle
I love what Willis has said that he mended a relationship with God. This is very important.
Thank you Kambua for giving these men this platform to share their journeys. Thank you Willis, Omari and O'Neal for sharing and letting loss dads know their feelings are valid and it is okay to grieve.
Thanks Kambua for creating a safe space where men can be vulnerable. These are the conversations we need. Hugs to all going through a loss.
Thank you Kambua..I had to spend my afternoon listening to this..After loosing my parent i felt that no one understands me..and i even separated my self..I am still healing and learning to accept that they are no longer with us..and mourning its not linear
You're young, don't worry you'll have another child. He's in heaven!!! That's the kind of crap I got. I wanted my baby boy.....and then my 2nd born was special and was sickly and that's a story for another day. We need to be super sensitive when you're around a mourning couple. Be silent and listen to them if they want to talk. I'm glad the men are vulnerable and they mourn as well! Good job kambua for bringing the dudes in this. I wish my hubby was still alive to see this....
I was told the same words, had traveled back to Kenya to get support during that difficult time! Weuh 😢 I booked a ✈️ back coz every day I was hurt more by words, I guess they didn't know how to handle me
Men mourn in silence,they get hurt too n mostly no one understands
Oh hugs mama 🫂💕
People need to be sensitive when talking to a griefing mom how do you say you are young you will get another baby? Yet you know you cant replace the lost soul? I have been told so too by many peope others come to my Dm whenever i have those memories and post the kid...leaving some funny messages and comments...
Your story is exactly as mine, weee to date you will never see me seated with older women, can't attend baby showers in short still traumatized
God knew we needed these conversations and He sent Kambua.Good to see Willis and the other guys.We definitely need more men come next year Kambua.Sending so much love and prayers to anyone going through any of this.Merry Christmas
Sorry to all who have gone through the heartache of child loss,Willis is well spoken and animated,I saw a side of him that is different from who he was at ten over 10. Refreshing to hear the depths of men's feelings, more strength 🎉
Also for those who can't call or text,just send a card,you can write to and from and let the cards speak for you.Going completely silent seems a bit harsh and lack of etiquette imo
I agree with you on complete silence. It hurts when coming from someone you care about.
This is such a powerful conversation. Men need to be given such platforms more, to pour out and heal. It is so refreshing to see this. Also Willis is such an incredible communicator, not to say that others aren't, but he stands out.
This show is so emotional,pure ,deep ,relational and real Kambua, thank you for this, ❤🙏
Thank you so much for being here 🦋
Moment of silence to our departed angels.
Thank you Kambua for this ministry I'm touched by the brave testimonies of this gentlemen.
Keep it up and more grace to you.
Hey Kambua this conversation...I just gathered courage to talk with my spouse how I felt unsupported when we miscarriaged..and it's only now that I learn he was also pained and also needed help mentally....thank you
....we need more men maybe you can also share your husband's perspective throughout your journey
Holidays trigger or remind us of our loved ones in a really big way. Thanks Kambua for creating this space. I have teared up, reflecting on how we easily by pass the man when a couple loses a child. It's like the only valid grief is the mother's 😢😢😢. Please forgive us, we know better now and we'll do better as fellow humans.
Hugs Raburu. You really needed this safe space to let it all out. I wish you total healing.
Thank you Kambua for this...be blessed.
Thank you gentlemen for sharing your stories with us, personally I've learnt a lot,
May God continually give ya'll strength, I am sooo glad this forum happened. Kambua, you are a gem.
This! This was way way profound. Thank you gentlemen for being candid and vulnerable. Thank you Kambua for handling such a heavy and important topic so gracefully. Thank you Jesus for allowing this
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I just lost my Son 3 months ago & this Christmas season triggers it all. It's the first Christmas without him... It's too much grief.. It's too much for me/us as a family 😭😭😭😭😭
Pole
Sorry for the loss
Hugs 🫂 Am so sorry.
May the Lord give you peace.
Sending you love, hugs and prayers during this time, May He fill you with His Love forever
Pole sana 😢
Comfort from the Lord.
I embrace my son’s memory. Christmas season is the hardest for any grieving parent.
Thank you for creating this safe space for pouring out our emotions and learning from other people. Every time I feel I don't have strength to keep me going I come here and listen to these stories
I love to hear men pour their hearts out and having good conversations thanks kambua we hope for more of this
I have been waiting for this episode all week.
Thankyou so much Kambua, this conversations mean more than you can ever imagine. 🙌🙌God is indeed great...he loves us. Thankyou ❤
I loved loved loved these two episodes. My goodness, so much to learn from the men's stories on how affected they actually get and should not be asked to be strong for anyone, not even their own wives. And then there is how we say all the wrong things because we feel we must say something when people are grieving...lessons learned.
This is so profound. Listening to how men mourn for their babies.
Thank you for having these men share their experiences
Oooh lord i have cried all through this.Grief!! Pushes us to blame ,hate and loose faith in Him .
Oh my goodness, coming from men's perspective this is deep... More grace to you❤❤
My friend committed suicide a week after a miscarriage.i ask myself what I could have done better.Thank you for this conversation.
Wah pole.sana
Oh this breaks my heart. I’m so sorry ❤️🩹
This is deep,I love what you're doing Kambua...thanks 🙏❤️ God bless you 🙏 it's helping me heal,I gotta rewatch it with my hubby again
Oh death 😭😭😭 it is a mystery and the pain is just a love that we have for the person and we want to express ..... That what grief is .
I lost my sister and my niece 10month apart 😭😭😭😭 oh grief oh grief is painful ....
God is still God and out of this pain God has brought out something in me that is a mystery and few are celebrating yet they have no idea the process of my becoming.....
May God continue to comfort everyone who has lost a loved one and to this great men , thank you for sharing.
These conversations are so whole on so many levels. Thank you gentlemen and Kambua.
I relate so much with O'Neil wish could hear his story more .... Encouraging to know that its normal to blame your spouse ..i did that too in my grief .
Wow! I have learnt alot especially coming from the men
God bless you K!
And these gentlemen, aaaah🎉 chukueni maua yenu for being vulnerable to speak about such heavy matters of the heart💐💐💐
This was deep men go through so much pain but society mostly focuses on the woman now I have a different perspective that men feel the pain n mourn too
Thank you Kambua, Willis, Omari, and O'Neal. I needed to hear this! Thank you
What can we say. This makes me see men differently and also understanding more how to be there for people grieving.
Men can never be strong to anyone. Mr. Omari. Truth
This is therapy for many. Kudos Kambua.
Lots of hugs gentlemen. Thank you for being vulnerable.❤
Hugs and hugs and hugs💗💗💗.. LOVE AND LIGHT
Thank you, Kambua, for this space we now know to give grace even to men in loss
Thanks kambua for bringing this men to share their stories. Please bring more men.
Gentlemen! God bless and bse with you. Thank you Kambua
Omari is so profound yaani how you can blame your partner weuh.....thank you guys for your vulnerability and openness, never looking at grief the same
This was so humbling, thank you all....Truly God is the same yesterday,today, and forever.
🎉🎉🎉 to all the Men who are battling something and to all of us
Thanks kambua ❤
I thank God for this session 🙏 glory to God who has healed this hurt souls...cause only Him understand why all this pain & suffering... O'Neal,Omar , Willis amazing hearing you speak out... crying isn't a weakness bt a way if expression
Its so good to hear the mens perspective on child and pregnancy loss, this was beautiful Kambua. Thank you for creating the space for this discussion, for sure, its making a difference.
Thank you so much!
I was really waiting for part 2..I shed a tear
Just so emotional ,hearing the pain this men hv gone through..
Yes, their pain is real and valid
This, is deep. Kambua MORE GRACE to you.
This was intense😢. Wow. Great job Kambua.
This is a beautiful platform.. Grace to everyone journeying on such a path .God got you
Thks kambua I enjoy watching ad listen ad I hv learn alot God bless you ❤
There's so much merry making n we mostly forget such conversation need to be held
. Thanks Kambua, .First time for me to watch n am already subscribed...
Thank you for subbing! Welcome on board 🦋
Thank you Kambua. Words fail me but thank you.
🫂❤️🩹
So deep and inspiring.. thank you everyone seated there and God bless you richly.
Hugs dear....together in this but through God's grace, we shall overcome.
Thank you for this conversation.
These conversations are so impactful.
Wow.What a conversation!Kambua Thanks for inviting these great men.
A very refreshing conversation!
So beautiful, relatable and encouraging. ❤
Thank you , thank you Kambua, And the gentlemen for being authentic,
Salute to gentlemen for sharing their stories not easy but who is God.
I thank God for He is a good God all through our life,He knows every reason for everything. We have a reason for trusting Him all the time.
Am humbled and God bless you kambua
Oneal.. I have cried fot you.
At the end there should have just been an altar call to receive or rededicate salvation to Christ...this is powerful
Great point. You cannot be strong for anyone - Omari👌
Love this really real conversations. Thank you Kambua these are very important conversations.
This is the best Christmas gift that u HV given us. I know alot will heal thro u guys. Much luv & happy holidays
wow this conversation is so emotional 😢😢😢😢 feeling so different on lost and grief now
This is real talk.......
Yaani mambo kwa ground ni different 🎉
Wow!! What a deep conversation. Thanks kambua for this ❤❤
I cried part one and i know this one too I'm going to cry. I'm waiting here with some tissues
Thank you for being here 🦋
Thank you.
God bless you Kambua and the three men
I have a COVID Baby and people I knew and close passed on I myself sensed I had COVID at some point coz I lost sense of smell and couldnt beleive my baby getting it and the last pregnancy before her I had miscarriaged at 3 months and wuuueeh I almost lost it.. BUT GOD.. HE IS INDEED A GOOD GOOD FATHER🙏 That's all i can say😢
Pole. Similar story I got a baby (miracle baby ) in 2021 and lost my mum same year. Yaani I can never wish that on anyone. Moving from joy to deep sorrow
@@faithmwende2369Pole pia. A day at a time we are here today. There's raising and rising up in Christ 🙏
Weuh the depth of Willis saying "He is the same God"...... Deep waters
True
This was sooo gooodd!!! Thank you!! ❤
Very courageous and brave gentlemen there. Thank you for sharing your stories 😊
All the feels!!
Very enlightening conversations. Thank you Kambua and the guests
Kambua this space really opened my heart n eyes am really grateful for alot..ipray iget to meet u oneday...and am sooo grateful now am pregnant almost due n such stories really mk you know n learn alot abt this life n journey
Such strong men!
Am watching this at 10pm and oh God, Thankyou Kambua
Losing a child is just different. 😢😢😢
Men talking about God❤ anyway i cried much and learned at the Same time
Great show.The gents were so vulnerable to share with us.Thank you and may all of us taste the peace of God❤❤
My heart hurts💔💔this conversation
My goodness this breaks my heart so much💔💔 may God always hold you
This was a great conversation❤❤
I lost my marriage last yr april then two months later i lost my infant son ...its not easy am still struggling with grief
Thank you for this am inspired by you kambua
Thank you for being here 🦋
This was so beautiful and impactful. Thanks Kambua and all the guests for sharing ❤
This is Soo wholesome ❤
I am terribly sorry guys for your loss. I can only imagine how difficult and heart aching it must be to lose a child.
What I also wanted to note is that we scapegoat God for the sin and the death and the pain, calamity, corruption, loss and lack we see in the world. We have blamed God for the death we see around us instead of blaming the sin/iniquity/missing the mark/not partaking of eternal life that entered this world through Adam’s sin.
The wages of sin is death. Mankind concluded that God pays us with death because of our sin. Sin is the one that brings death in the world.
Paul makes a clear statement that the wages of sin is death
”For the wages which sin pays is death, but the [bountiful] free GIFT of God is eternal life through (in union with) Jesus Christ our Lord.“
Romans 6:23
By one man sin entered Therefore, as sin came into the world through one man(Adam) and death as the result of sin, so death spread to all men, [no one being able to stop it or to escape its power] because all men sinned.“
Romans 5:12.
The only thing God gives is eternal life. God can only give what He has in Himself. There is no darkness and death in God so how can God give us death? God is not the Author of Death. The only thing in God is light and life. Even God Himself died with the sin of the world but rose up on the third day. To show us that He is not the Author of death and when death came knocking at His door He was raised up and that kicking down the power of fear death held on us. Death is dead guys! Death is defeated and we have the light of life in Jesus.
We need to see the book of Job and the Old Testament not carnally but spiritually. Not according to the Letter but according to the Spirit of the book. And Jesus is the Spirit of the whole Bible. In the Old Testament it was Christ concealed and the New Testament is Christ revealed for who He is “the word of God made flesh”.
God needs to be sanctified in the eyes of the church. There is nowhere we Jesus brought death to anyone in the Gospels. And He said I only do what I see my Father do. When Jesus’ disciples wanted Jesus to call down fire to consume the Samaritans for denying them access through their town what did Jesus say to Peter? In fact the Bible says He rebuked them. ”And when His disciples James and John observed this, they said, Lord, do You wish us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, even as Elijah did? [II Kings 1:9-16.] But He turned and rebuked and severely censured them. He said, You do not know of what sort of spirit you are,“”For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them [from the penalty of eternal death]. And they journeyed on to another village.“
Luke 9:55,56 AMPC
We live in a fallen world where sin and death is around us however in that we have light and life and death is defeated and will be completely eradicated when death will put in the lake of fire. Rev. 20:14.
The way part I ended made me dread the continuation, yet here I am! 🤷🤷
Yani you're going through a loss at the same time divorce and separated. There's nothing like being strong for sure.
I went through that. It broke me to my core😭
That ka statement "utapata mwingine ,u are young "makes me feel more sad...if people don't know what to tell a grieving parent, just keep quiet