I think you misuse the phrase "that's where the market is going to". When manufacturers decide en masse to only offer certain options, it's definitely not indicative of the market. You can't decide if the market wants a mid size pickup with a v6 if none is offered...
Personally, I just trust the Ranger platform more. It’s an international vehicle, and it’s basically the Tacoma equivalent in AUS; it crushes the competition in sales. The outgoing Ranger was very good.
I’m so tired of hearing about the light switches on every single video for the Colorado/Canyon. It’s great that it’s one of the only complaints people can find, but I’m just so over it at this point.
I never touch my light knob on my 2015 … why would that be a legit concern? I like that it’s harder to turn off the lights, I see way too many people driving around without lights on in the evening.
I bought a new 2023 Canyon Denali. I found out it did not have front parking sensors, and the front camera did not automatically come on when I approached an object. I sold it after only 778 miles.
@@daveyoung5299 Given how important these features are to you, surprised you didn't research the features. Typically a 20% hit on value selling the truck as a used truck., maybe more.
I was recently at the San Diego auto show and got to sit in all of the current midsized trucks. I am normally a Ford guy and was super excited for the new gen ranger, however, the Colorado had more room in the back seat than any other mid-size and the cabin made the most sense. Most of the modern engines are comparable in their segment and price point for the mid size truck. Going into this my choice would have been. Ranger, Tacoma, Colorado, Frontier. After the show the Colorado was the clear winner.
I was there too and was kind of disappointed in the offerings, especially from Ford. They only had a new XLT. I was really hoping for a Ranger Raptor or at least a Lariat.
@@robertopics xlt comes standard with full led lighting. The headlights just aren’t the “performance led projectors”. And maybe the fog lights aren’t led I’m not sure on that. Also, I don’t trust the new gm 4 cylinder, especially the high output version. That engine is being pushed too hard and gives worse or same mpg than either of the engines offered by ford in its high output variant. The 2.7 will easily be made into the best engine with simply an aftermarket tune. Those 2.7 ecoboosts can be tuned stock to 350+hp and 450+tq at the same time gaining better mpg. The Z71 is okay but for the way I built one out I will be wasting money on the ridiculous package bundles that have to have everything for the one option I want. It ended up at 49,700 for what I wanted, while the ranger ended at 46,700 and will probably be closer to 48,000-48,500 with the 2.7 when it’s available to spec into the build. Now if we start looking at the LT fully built out with all the led upgrades and everything, then it becomes more on par price wise at 48,200 for my wants. But at that price it wouldn’t be worth not going to the z71 for 1500 more. I wouldn’t get leather seats with the xlt, but I’ve never cared about seat material and seat covers exist. I’d like the trail boss but you can’t get an led lighting upgrade in any package so it would have to be done aftermarket which would be expensive
When I learned Gm removed the actual light switch, I welcome it. Felt like I was the only one in the world 😂 but I’m new to GM so everything seem odd at first. My 2012 and 2014 vehicles have auto light setting and I maybe touched it half a dozen times since ownership. I also have a vehicle with all the function in the infotainment screen and it’s easy to adapt or you use voice commands. Folks were throwing a fit no homelink but that’s an easy fix, voice command thru phone app/setting which makes it even easier. The shifter moved further right seems odd at first but I come to find it’s more natural for me after some seat time. I get it as to each their own and some people like the same and what works for them timelessly. While we have yet to see the new Ranger, it was on my list with the Australian release giving us an early look. The specs didn’t add up for me for the exterior as you pointed out on the video. I driven a 2022 Canyon and find the interior room a sweet spot in size and disappointed the 2023 canyon interior shrunk despite exterior dimension grew. Ford did it right interior space wise. GM knocked it out of the park with interior and cockpit design. In the end, we pick one that best suits us.
I think you pulled a BS move adding that last option to the Colorado to make it cost more than the Ranger. The Colorado is a better looking truck, but I have ZERO desire for a turbo 4 banger in a truck. That 2.7L V6 option for the Ranger would make me buy the Ranger over the Colorado, although I'm not crazy about a turbo on a V6 truck either. Just freaking build a 4.3L V6 with no turbo, they get the same gas mileage. Hate the engine direction these midsize trucks are going with now.
Id take the ranger with the 6 cylinder. Preferably the 3.0 but the 2.7 would be good too. Add that with the lighter curb weight and I bet the ford will feel much more powerful
I believe the ranger xlt has old fashioned key start, no push button start, this is unacceptable nowadays. Ford recalls , unavailable product, dealers marking up popular products. Always been a Ford guy, but I think I would get the GMC canyon.
I don’t think it’s a good move for GM to not offer a 2 speed transfer case on the 4WD LT model. Didn’t even realize you get that offered at the Trail Boss and higher trims. I think this will cause the XLT to eclipse the LT in sales. I think the Z71 is the best package and the trail boss is the best value. I don’t think I could buy a 4WD truck without a “low” range. Never needed it, just doesn’t seem complete without it to me.
I have a Ranger and love it except the city mpg. I get between 16.5-17.5 and I try to get the best mpg. Highway I get the rated numbers. My next truck will be a Ranger with the 2.7 or if they create a plug-in hybrid Ranger.
I felt the same room space in both. I tested a Z71 and a TrailBoss Colorado. I also tried a XLT Ford Ranger and to me they all felt the same room space to me. Maybe I don’t pay attention as much. Also I see that the Ranger is a lot more tricked out or have more detail in the interior. The Trailboss looks more basic and the Z71 has details. Yet the Z71 is a higher trim.
I think it’s nice that you get the choice on regular cruise control and all the extra safety things that are more of just annoyances in my opinion than just throwing them on there automatically for extra money
I'm not a GM or any other brand basher by any means but seriously, it's 2024 what vehicle doesn't have a simple feature like cruise control standard on every single trim? That's just a major oversight! My 2004 Ranger HAS cruise control for the love of God!
This was really interesting. I still haven't bought a mid-size truck yet. I had possibly thought the Colorado zr2 2024. But I just don't know. I also thought maybe the Tacoma trd pro 2024.
Saw many of the new model Rangers in England. They're proving popular. Shame Ford US can't help but mess up the introduction of vehicles, time and time again.
@ryancunningham8472 That's a no go. They are Halogen lenses, they will never be as good as an properly designed LED lamp. That's just one part. No fog lamps, no heated seats or steering wheel. The full size Trailboss has an LT trim with lots of features. The Colorado Trailboss needs that too
idc about a ranger raptor, im not racing my truck. The chevy has more standard features imo and nicer inside to be. The auto is SO nice. I just leave it in auto all the time. Why not. No change in MGP. Ive tried it. SO its safer imo
I like the Ranger before I saw your video. I’m glad it’s the smaller OD. I don’t have a lot of room in my garage! I already got 1 coming. 🤷🏻♂️. I’m a fan of the new look on the 24 Ranger. Thanks for your video. Good job.
If I was buying I'd pick the one that has dual injection and a light switch that isn't in the touchscreen. If GM changed those things I'd be a lot more interested in their offerings.
@@domin8ss Quite a bit when they don't turn on in certain scenarios. Sometimes in vehicles I've driven with the auto lights, sometimes during rain it isn't quite dark enough for them to turn on, while I may not need them to see, I like to have them on for other drivers to see me. Other times they take too long to turn on when going into tunnels or in parking garages. Just seems like the last thing they should have put behind a screen, especially for a truck.
It doesn’t look too difficult to switch them on and off. Sure a physical switch or dial would be preferred but it’s not a deal breaker in my mind. And if you anticipate it ahead of time you can just set the headlights to always be on so you don’t have to worry about turning them on or off. Also DI only isn’t a huge issue either as my current vehicle with that is 8 years old and still perfectly fine.
Very interesting unbiased format, love it.... Being older guy who only needs nice street daily truck, I noticed the GM has ventilated seats but manual rear window and Ford is the opposite, need both!! New Taco has both 🙂 Add that to your findings 😉
I am waiting for an actual compact truck from Toyota or Nissan, in the meantime I am buying a 1993 Mazda B2600i 4x4 regular cab short bed with a near perfect body and interior with 110,000 miles from a local wrecking yard that is being liquidated because the owner passed away.
But what would real world prices be? I'm guessing you can get a deal on a ZR2. I see a bunch for sale in my area. And with leaf springs, it probably hauls more than a Raptor?
One thing you didn’t mention is that the new Ranger can lay 4x8 paneling flat on the bed floor. There’s 48.2” inches between the rear wheelhouses. For contractors this is a big plus.😊 The only other midsize pickups that can handle 4x8s flat on the floor is the Ridgeline and Rivian R1T.
Funny when you have the specs side x side like that you notice things. Like how does the Chevy Trailboss have a 2" lift but ground clearance is only .2" better than Ford with no lift. And the Ford has better breakover departure angles as well. Chevy barely beats it in approach. And somehow, the Ford is shorter with better headroom! Yep, gotta give it to the Ford engineers on that one, well done.
@@spyder000069I'm thinking his spec sheet is incorrect. Actually, numerous specs Tim listed do not match the Chevy/Ford websites, wonder when they changed. Curb weight is off by 500lbs on the Chevy and the width is off on the Ford making the Ford wider than the Chevy.
@@Dusdaddy You're correct that the spec sheets are incorrect in the video. Another error I noticed was the base engine on the Colorado he has listed at 259 LB/FT of Torque at 5600 RPM. GM website has it at 260 LB/FT of torque at 1200-4000 RPM. Additionally Tim forgot to list the fuel economy numbers for base Colorado engine which are 20/25 (City/Highway) in 2WD and 19/23 with 4WD.
@@MistaAbYsSs As Tim pointed out, what they send to the media seems to differ. Maybe the media version was written much earlier? Tim has mpg for the Ranger, but the Ford site doesn't.
The elephant in the room for Ranger is... Why does the rest of the world get the Wildtrack, the X and the Platinum? They offer a work truck - XL, the almost work truck - XLT , a MID-range truck - Lariat and the Raptor (which most won't buy/need, except for the wanabe desert racers). Why not offer the other trucks to compete with Toyota and GM's versions?
There are current Colorados with a couple grand off. I doubt the ranger will be had with any discounts and possibly some gouging specially the Raptor. Ill take a Zr2 for 49k-52k as i see in my area
I have owned a Colorado trial boss for over a year and have maybe turned my headlights on manually 2 times. The auto headlights works so good there’s really no point in messing with it. After living with it you understand why they just put it in the head unit.
I think I'll just stick with my trusty old '05 Colorado 4X4 LS with its 5-cylinder engine for three reasons. First it gets me where I want and/or need to go when I want and/or need to get there. Secondly, it's paid for. And third, it gets outstanding MPG even with almost 250, 000 miles on it. Maybe, if the wheels fall off and/or the engine implodes, I'll buy something else, like a used Jeep Gladiator.
General motors has a problem with locking safety features like adaptive cruise control behind ridiculously priced option packages available only to top tier trims. I drive a 3/4 ton Transit for work that has vinyl seats rubber floor mats and no luxury items yet it comes with 360 camera, adaptive cruise control, emergency braking etc. All the safety features should be available to every trim package for a reasonable amount of money!
Both nice trucks but its hard to get excited about them with such poor availability. I think Ford and GM would rather crank out the full size money makers and not mess with the mid size segment ( in the US at least).
You are so mistaken about screen….I have driven both trucks Colorado screen doesn’t block any view at all! Sitting in seat even if you are under 4’ tall it doesn’t block any windshield view. Ranger screen causes me to look down more away from driving view. You picture from head on view is misleading and shows your bias. I actually wanted a real comparison from a non bias source….I had to stop watching rest of your video after a clear misconception.
I was looking at a Ranger BUT...... Ranger has no auto 4x4 and no push button start or heated steering wheel on anything under Lariat Whereas the push button is on the WT of the Colorado and also offers the heated steering wheel on the LT. Thought that was rather sad for a brand new truck.
I believe that the new ranger can slide a 4*8 plywood sheet between it's wheel wells. The Colorado has a moonroof option and rear seat air vents. Both gave unique features that will cater to one's individual likes and needs
I think a "pain point" for each would be worth noting: -- Ford Ranger 10 speed transmission has been known to be troublesome. In fact, two family members had 2019 Rangers, and the transmission was horrible on each of them before they got rid of them. (Slamming into gear..."hunting" for the right gear even on highways..."sticking" into a high gear when it should have gone to a lower gear...etc.) -- Chevy Colorado -- Electronics are glitchy on this truck. Infotainment system is laggy...slow to react to screen taps...some settings don't "remember' their new locations. Blind Spot mirror indicators illuminate at random times with no vehicles on either side of the truck.
I bought a 23 Colorado ZR2 in January of this year and yeah the Blind spot indicators were seeing ghosts. Then, maybe 3-4 weeks after ownership they starting working correctly.
Isn't the Bronco on the same chassis as the Ranger? I'm guessing that the power output of the engines would be comparable as they are sharing the same engines as well. Then again, there is tuning that may change the hp and torque rating for the Ranger.
Sometimes they set up the engines the same, sometimes not when they consider what they call the "duty cycle" of the customer. For example, they could change out some of the engine parts and tune the Ranger differently to be better at towing than the Bronco since they think more people will do that. Just hard to say.
Worst truck I’ve ever owned. Not saying the ford is better… but i am here looking so i can get rid of this pile of shit. Multiple electrical issues, oil leaking around the valve cover already and its gutless. Should have kept my old Silverado.
Something doesn’t add up correctly, Tim. You made a video that Tacoma was $25 more expensive than Ranger and Tacoma is $7k more expensive than Colorado on similar packages. How then Ranger price can be similar to Colorado?
I will be a “free agent” by about 2025, but my current ‘17 Colorado has impressed. As such, Colorado has a leg up on the competition. Really digging the Trail Boss.
I subscribed just for these type of videos. I build trucks on manufactures sites just for fun and knowledge!! Do you think 2023 new Ram V8 trucks will go up in value like 2021 Tundras? I think tow specific or off road rams will go up in price ??!! 🤔
For which truck? I have some comparisons of the Ridgeline on the website. The last one I did was with the Frontier. I need to turn that into a video. I'm just behind.
Great content! As a owner of a 2022 ranger I was really hoping that Ford would at least make some modifications to the 2.3 L eco-boost. I haven’t heard anything necessarily bad about the 2.3 and have had no issues myself. But I would’ve liked to have seen a slight boost in power, and maybe beef up some of the engine internals.
you can get a shifter like in the Colorado just to let you know Tim but I think you get that on XLT or XL I believe Lariat and Raptor get that mouse shifter I could be wrong on this if I am someone let me know
@@freedomisntfree_44 2.7 Ranger only has 5 more hp but colorado has 30 ft/lbs torque. Why do you think the ranger has the edge? The numbers would tell me that the colorado would outperform the ranger once you put a 6000lb trailer behind them. Maybe even safer since the colorado has a larger wheelbase and width. I'm a ford guy and have owned a few old rangers, a f150, currently a f250, and have never owned a chevy truck. However, the specs on the colorado look pretty good and I do like the looks. Normally I would argue ford beng a higher quality but these pandemic/post pandemic years haven't been kind to ford with all their recalls. With that in mind it starts making sense to more seriously look at the new tacoma as well.
Here is the link to the article with the specs: pickuptrucktalk.com/2024/01/2024-chevy-colorado-vs-ford-ranger-shocking-price-difference/
Thanks.. had more info for me than this one.
I think you misuse the phrase "that's where the market is going to". When manufacturers decide en masse to only offer certain options, it's definitely not indicative of the market. You can't decide if the market wants a mid size pickup with a v6 if none is offered...
Personally, I just trust the Ranger platform more. It’s an international vehicle, and it’s basically the Tacoma equivalent in AUS; it crushes the competition in sales. The outgoing Ranger was very good.
Tacoma in the US sells more than the other competitors combined. In AUS competition is much tighter
Ford=trust? Trust you are purchasing from the industry leader in recalls and warranty repairs.
Ranger lowest sales of taco,Colorado or Canyon
@@gordmonteath6090 Can none of you read?
Isn’t the hilux a Tacoma?
I’m so tired of hearing about the light switches on every single video for the Colorado/Canyon. It’s great that it’s one of the only complaints people can find, but I’m just so over it at this point.
It’s valid issue with the Colorado that should be brought up
I never touch my light knob on my 2015 … why would that be a legit concern? I like that it’s harder to turn off the lights, I see way too many people driving around without lights on in the evening.
I haven't touched the head lamp switch in my 2019 Trailboss in 5 years.
I bought a new 2023 Canyon Denali. I found out it did not have front parking sensors, and the front camera did not automatically come on when I approached an object. I sold it after only 778 miles.
@@daveyoung5299 Given how important these features are to you, surprised you didn't research the features. Typically a 20% hit on value selling the truck as a used truck., maybe more.
Good video sir! Hoping Ford puts a 6 foot bed option out there in a crew cab truck
I was recently at the San Diego auto show and got to sit in all of the current midsized trucks. I am normally a Ford guy and was super excited for the new gen ranger, however, the Colorado had more room in the back seat than any other mid-size and the cabin made the most sense. Most of the modern engines are comparable in their segment and price point for the mid size truck. Going into this my choice would have been. Ranger, Tacoma, Colorado, Frontier. After the show the Colorado was the clear winner.
I was there too and was kind of disappointed in the offerings, especially from Ford. They only had a new XLT. I was really hoping for a Ranger Raptor or at least a Lariat.
Exactly
Pretty sure if you check the spec sheet you will see the Ranger has more rear leg room
Well if the ranger is smaller but bigger inside, that’s perfect.
It’s a midsize truck, and it would be better to maneuver around and more comfortable
So true, hope they add ventilated seats, planet is getting hotter in summer!
@@evancontos2267 Good luck. The Ranger doesn't even have ac vents for the rear passengers. 😂
@@ofmyownaccordIt does. They're outstanding high volume on the dash board.
@@ofmyownaccordno one cares about air vents in the rear of a small truck 😂 my Tacoma doesn’t have them and I still freeze folks in the back out.
xlt fully optioned with the fx4 package and the 2.7 ecoboost will be the best value truck hands down
But that is going to get you into z71 territory minus the led lights.
@@robertopics xlt comes standard with full led lighting. The headlights just aren’t the “performance led projectors”. And maybe the fog lights aren’t led I’m not sure on that. Also, I don’t trust the new gm 4 cylinder, especially the high output version. That engine is being pushed too hard and gives worse or same mpg than either of the engines offered by ford in its high output variant. The 2.7 will easily be made into the best engine with simply an aftermarket tune. Those 2.7 ecoboosts can be tuned stock to 350+hp and 450+tq at the same time gaining better mpg. The Z71 is okay but for the way I built one out I will be wasting money on the ridiculous package bundles that have to have everything for the one option I want. It ended up at 49,700 for what I wanted, while the ranger ended at 46,700 and will probably be closer to 48,000-48,500 with the 2.7 when it’s available to spec into the build. Now if we start looking at the LT fully built out with all the led upgrades and everything, then it becomes more on par price wise at 48,200 for my wants. But at that price it wouldn’t be worth not going to the z71 for 1500 more. I wouldn’t get leather seats with the xlt, but I’ve never cared about seat material and seat covers exist. I’d like the trail boss but you can’t get an led lighting upgrade in any package so it would have to be done aftermarket which would be expensive
When I learned Gm removed the actual light switch, I welcome it. Felt like I was the only one in the world 😂 but I’m new to GM so everything seem odd at first. My 2012 and 2014 vehicles have auto light setting and I maybe touched it half a dozen times since ownership. I also have a vehicle with all the function in the infotainment screen and it’s easy to adapt or you use voice commands. Folks were throwing a fit no homelink but that’s an easy fix, voice command thru phone app/setting which makes it even easier. The shifter moved further right seems odd at first but I come to find it’s more natural for me after some seat time.
I get it as to each their own and some people like the same and what works for them timelessly.
While we have yet to see the new Ranger, it was on my list with the Australian release giving us an early look. The specs didn’t add up for me for the exterior as you pointed out on the video. I driven a 2022 Canyon and find the interior room a sweet spot in size and disappointed the 2023 canyon interior shrunk despite exterior dimension grew. Ford did it right interior space wise. GM knocked it out of the park with interior and cockpit design.
In the end, we pick one that best suits us.
I think you pulled a BS move adding that last option to the Colorado to make it cost more than the Ranger. The Colorado is a better looking truck, but I have ZERO desire for a turbo 4 banger in a truck. That 2.7L V6 option for the Ranger would make me buy the Ranger over the Colorado, although I'm not crazy about a turbo on a V6 truck either. Just freaking build a 4.3L V6 with no turbo, they get the same gas mileage. Hate the engine direction these midsize trucks are going with now.
Ranger 👍
Ford ranger front grill looks very outdated looks old 😂
I think the ZR2 has 33 inch tires, not 32 as shown in your comparison.
your right, 33's stock zr2 and 35's with the bison
Id take the ranger with the 6 cylinder. Preferably the 3.0 but the 2.7 would be good too. Add that with the lighter curb weight and I bet the ford will feel much more powerful
The Ranger will be like the Maverick. The build will be slow. I have a Trail Boss and love it. Almost every option and it was 42k.
The option of a two V6 is huge. I hate these inline 4 turbo it’s like driving a chainsaw
I believe the ranger xlt has old fashioned key start, no push button start, this is unacceptable nowadays. Ford recalls , unavailable product, dealers marking up popular products. Always been a Ford guy, but I think I would get the GMC canyon.
Geez, is the Ford Ranger even going to be produced (at this point)?
Nope.
I don’t think it’s a good move for GM to not offer a 2 speed transfer case on the 4WD LT model. Didn’t even realize you get that offered at the Trail Boss and higher trims. I think this will cause the XLT to eclipse the LT in sales. I think the Z71 is the best package and the trail boss is the best value. I don’t think I could buy a 4WD truck without a “low” range. Never needed it, just doesn’t seem complete without it to me.
I have a Ranger and love it except the city mpg. I get between 16.5-17.5 and I try to get the best mpg. Highway I get the rated numbers. My next truck will be a Ranger with the 2.7 or if they create a plug-in hybrid Ranger.
The Chevy GMC Canyon really looks good.
I felt the same room space in both. I tested a Z71 and a TrailBoss Colorado. I also tried a XLT Ford Ranger and to me they all felt the same room space to me. Maybe I don’t pay attention as much. Also I see that the Ranger is a lot more tricked out or have more detail in the interior. The Trailboss looks more basic and the Z71 has details. Yet the Z71 is a higher trim.
I think it’s nice that you get the choice on regular cruise control and all the extra safety things that are more of just annoyances in my opinion than just throwing them on there automatically for extra money
I'm not a GM or any other brand basher by any means but seriously, it's 2024 what vehicle doesn't have a simple feature like cruise control standard on every single trim? That's just a major oversight! My 2004 Ranger HAS cruise control for the love of God!
Agreed. For me the key in the ford at this price is another non starter
The Chevy looks infinitely better, but the Ford has a V6.
Ford doesn't have anything close price and capability wise to Trail Boss at price
This was really interesting. I still haven't bought a mid-size truck yet. I had possibly thought the Colorado zr2 2024. But I just don't know. I also thought maybe the Tacoma trd pro 2024.
The Colorado is a better deal because of those options. Everyone complains about the price so they gave you the option to make it cheaper.
Saw many of the new model Rangers in England. They're proving popular. Shame Ford US can't help but mess up the introduction of vehicles, time and time again.
Colorado Trailboss, if they had an LED headlamp option.
Needs the Z71 package with Trailboss together.
Put some high quality LED bulbs in them for $200.
@ryancunningham8472 That's a no go. They are Halogen lenses, they will never be as good as an properly designed LED lamp.
That's just one part. No fog lamps, no heated seats or steering wheel.
The full size Trailboss has an LT trim with lots of features. The Colorado Trailboss needs that too
idc about a ranger raptor, im not racing my truck. The chevy has more standard features imo and nicer inside to be. The auto is SO nice. I just leave it in auto all the time. Why not. No change in MGP. Ive tried it. SO its safer imo
I like the Ranger before I saw your video. I’m glad it’s the smaller OD. I don’t have a lot of room in my garage! I already got 1 coming. 🤷🏻♂️. I’m a fan of the new look on the 24 Ranger. Thanks for your video. Good job.
One option the Ranger does not offer on any trim level is a sunroof. You can get the sunroof on an Colorado LT.
If I was buying I'd pick the one that has dual injection and a light switch that isn't in the touchscreen. If GM changed those things I'd be a lot more interested in their offerings.
With automatic headlights, do you really touch the switch anyways?
@@domin8ss Quite a bit when they don't turn on in certain scenarios. Sometimes in vehicles I've driven with the auto lights, sometimes during rain it isn't quite dark enough for them to turn on, while I may not need them to see, I like to have them on for other drivers to see me. Other times they take too long to turn on when going into tunnels or in parking garages. Just seems like the last thing they should have put behind a screen, especially for a truck.
It doesn’t look too difficult to switch them on and off. Sure a physical switch or dial would be preferred but it’s not a deal breaker in my mind. And if you anticipate it ahead of time you can just set the headlights to always be on so you don’t have to worry about turning them on or off. Also DI only isn’t a huge issue either as my current vehicle with that is 8 years old and still perfectly fine.
@@domin8ssIDK about these new gen trucks, but the auto beams on my Ranger are kinda shit. I override them a lot.
An XL Ranger with a rear lock diff is the best way to go.
Prices are crazy, $8000 more than my 2016 F150 XLT FX4
Any chance you would do a comparison like this, but between all the midsize trucks, including the Tacoma?
Crap vs crap.
Was hoping for a 24 year model Tremor 😢
Ranger Has the most rear leg room out of framed mid size trucks!
Gladiator has much more but it's a Gladiator lol
Very interesting unbiased format, love it.... Being older guy who only needs nice street daily truck, I noticed the GM has ventilated seats but manual rear window and Ford is the opposite, need both!! New Taco has both 🙂 Add that to your findings 😉
Agree on the power rear window. Ranger has it, Tacoma Has it.
Not even Denali GM or any Chevy…they don’t have the power rear window
I am waiting for an actual compact truck from Toyota or Nissan, in the meantime I am buying a 1993 Mazda B2600i 4x4 regular cab short bed with a near perfect body and interior with 110,000 miles from a local wrecking yard that is being liquidated because the owner passed away.
But what would real world prices be? I'm guessing you can get a deal on a ZR2. I see a bunch for sale in my area. And with leaf springs, it probably hauls more than a Raptor?
Maybe on payload. I'd want to see real numbers before I say one way or another.
One thing you didn’t mention is that the new Ranger can lay 4x8 paneling flat on the bed floor. There’s 48.2” inches between the rear wheelhouses. For contractors this is a big plus.😊
The only other midsize pickups that can handle 4x8s flat on the floor is the Ridgeline and Rivian R1T.
Funny when you have the specs side x side like that you notice things. Like how does the Chevy Trailboss have a 2" lift but ground clearance is only .2" better than Ford with no lift. And the Ford has better breakover departure angles as well. Chevy barely beats it in approach. And somehow, the Ford is shorter with better headroom! Yep, gotta give it to the Ford engineers on that one, well done.
10:47 How does the WT/LT overall height come in higher than the lifted trail boss and zr2?
@@spyder000069I'm thinking his spec sheet is incorrect. Actually, numerous specs Tim listed do not match the Chevy/Ford websites, wonder when they changed. Curb weight is off by 500lbs on the Chevy and the width is off on the Ford making the Ford wider than the Chevy.
@@Dusdaddy You're correct that the spec sheets are incorrect in the video. Another error I noticed was the base engine on the Colorado he has listed at 259 LB/FT of Torque at 5600 RPM. GM website has it at 260 LB/FT of torque at 1200-4000 RPM. Additionally Tim forgot to list the fuel economy numbers for base Colorado engine which are 20/25 (City/Highway) in 2WD and 19/23 with 4WD.
That's so strange to me. I literally copy and paste from the media website. I'm working on figuring out what's going on.
@@MistaAbYsSs As Tim pointed out, what they send to the media seems to differ. Maybe the media version was written much earlier? Tim has mpg for the Ranger, but the Ford site doesn't.
The elephant in the room for Ranger is... Why does the rest of the world get the Wildtrack, the X and the Platinum? They offer a work truck - XL, the almost work truck - XLT , a MID-range truck - Lariat and the Raptor (which most won't buy/need, except for the wanabe desert racers). Why not offer the other trucks to compete with Toyota and GM's versions?
There are current Colorados with a couple grand off. I doubt the ranger will be had with any discounts and possibly some gouging specially the Raptor. Ill take a Zr2 for 49k-52k as i see in my area
I have owned a Colorado trial boss for over a year and have maybe turned my headlights on manually 2 times. The auto headlights works so good there’s really no point in messing with it. After living with it you understand why they just put it in the head unit.
I think I'll just stick with my trusty old '05 Colorado 4X4 LS with its 5-cylinder engine for three reasons. First it gets me where I want and/or need to go when I want and/or need to get there. Secondly, it's paid for. And third, it gets outstanding MPG even with almost 250, 000 miles on it. Maybe, if the wheels fall off and/or the engine implodes, I'll buy something else, like a used Jeep Gladiator.
General motors has a problem with locking safety features like adaptive cruise control behind ridiculously priced option packages available only to top tier trims. I drive a 3/4 ton Transit for work that has vinyl seats rubber floor mats and no luxury items yet it comes with 360 camera, adaptive cruise control, emergency braking etc. All the safety features should be available to every trim package for a reasonable amount of money!
Both vehicles are OVERPRICED. But if I was in the market, I'd buy the Ranger.
Both nice trucks but its hard to get excited about them with such poor availability. I think Ford and GM would rather crank out the full size money makers and not mess with the mid size segment ( in the US at least).
You are so mistaken about screen….I have driven both trucks Colorado screen doesn’t block any view at all! Sitting in seat even if you are under 4’ tall it doesn’t block any windshield view. Ranger screen causes me to look down more away from driving view. You picture from head on view is misleading and shows your bias. I actually wanted a real comparison from a non bias source….I had to stop watching rest of your video after a clear misconception.
I think a 2.7 Ranger with e locker might be good .
But when? And how much?
Both of these are nice options. I'd still take the ZR2 Bison over anything Ranger..regardless of HP.
I saw one at a auto show really nice inside compared to Colorado but the sticker $51,000
Its better to look at combined legroom when comparing vehicles as there's different ways to measure legroom.
Tim, you sat in the Ranger. I remember you saying that the back seat is one of the biggest ones. What’s your real world experience with the back seat?
I was looking at a Ranger BUT...... Ranger has no auto 4x4 and no push button start or heated steering wheel on anything under Lariat
Whereas the push button is on the WT of the Colorado and also offers the heated steering wheel on the LT.
Thought that was rather sad for a brand new truck.
You said everything >>> too fast...
Could not understand a lot of your camparison...
Colorado 👍😉
I believe that the new ranger can slide a 4*8 plywood sheet between it's wheel wells. The Colorado has a moonroof option and rear seat air vents. Both gave unique features that will cater to one's individual likes and needs
Colorado also has COOLED SEATS option. GM cooled seats are nice.
Neither of these Juicy Fruit gum trucks that start Strong but fade fast.
Whats up with all the pop up adds that having nothing to do with the subject ! It messes my mind up !
This sounds like Ford wanted to be the new Toyota Tacoma with its seats down on the floor
Ranger 2.7 V6 u can’t configure yet.
I’m watching ur review as I comment 😊 rear hitch on Ranger is low. Drag it going off road up hit.
Gm twins have 2 many stand alone or package options. Forced to get 1 thing but not another!
I think a "pain point" for each would be worth noting:
-- Ford Ranger 10 speed transmission has been known to be troublesome. In fact, two family members had 2019 Rangers, and the transmission was horrible on each of them before they got rid of them. (Slamming into gear..."hunting" for the right gear even on highways..."sticking" into a high gear when it should have gone to a lower gear...etc.)
-- Chevy Colorado -- Electronics are glitchy on this truck. Infotainment system is laggy...slow to react to screen taps...some settings don't "remember' their new locations. Blind Spot mirror indicators illuminate at random times with no vehicles on either side of the truck.
I bought a 23 Colorado ZR2 in January of this year and yeah the Blind spot indicators were seeing ghosts. Then, maybe 3-4 weeks after ownership they starting working correctly.
When you get really honest with yourself about what you need vs what you want then take a look at the Honda Ridgeline
Trying to get a 2024 Honda Ridgeline Black Edition in Radiant Red .
Tacoma still quite a bit more expensive than either of these.
No 4a on Ranger unless you get the Raptor.
If I am reading this right, it looks like the Colorado has a larger back seat by a little?
I think it was unfair to just glance over the low output versions of both trucks, not everyone is getting the GM 2.7 HO or 2.7 v6 ford.
Didn't discuss the Raptor and ZR2 either. Can't cover them all in one video.
Good god man please talk SLOWER
Isn't the Bronco on the same chassis as the Ranger? I'm guessing that the power output of the engines would be comparable as they are sharing the same engines as well. Then again, there is tuning that may change the hp and torque rating for the Ranger.
Sometimes they set up the engines the same, sometimes not when they consider what they call the "duty cycle" of the customer. For example, they could change out some of the engine parts and tune the Ranger differently to be better at towing than the Bronco since they think more people will do that. Just hard to say.
I’m seeing no rangers or Tacoma available in Alaska. I do see 24 f150 stx super crew for 52k.
Don't feel bad. There are no Rangers or Tacomas in the lower 48 either.
Colorado is better.
Worst truck I’ve ever owned. Not saying the ford is better… but i am here looking so i can get rid of this pile of shit. Multiple electrical issues, oil leaking around the valve cover already and its gutless. Should have kept my old Silverado.
Ford needs new designers. Boring looks in every truck.
Something doesn’t add up correctly, Tim.
You made a video that Tacoma was $25 more expensive than Ranger and Tacoma is $7k more expensive than Colorado on similar packages. How then Ranger price can be similar to Colorado?
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GM twins all day
ALL TRUCKS ARE OVER PRICED
@@843MudMafia. yep. And the sky is blue, it gets dark when the sun sets, etc.
The frame bender twins 😂
It takes GM twins to match one Ford.
Sounds interesting 👍🇺🇸
I will be a “free agent” by about 2025, but my current ‘17 Colorado has impressed. As such, Colorado has a leg up on the competition. Really digging the Trail Boss.
I agree GM twins all day long
I subscribed just for these type of videos. I build trucks on manufactures sites just for fun and knowledge!! Do you think 2023 new Ram V8 trucks will go up in value like 2021 Tundras? I think tow specific or off road rams will go up in price ??!! 🤔
I know this is blasphemy, but can you add in the Ridgeline numbers also
For which truck? I have some comparisons of the Ridgeline on the website. The last one I did was with the Frontier. I need to turn that into a video. I'm just behind.
I was talking about the specs like you did with the Ranger and the Gm twins
@Tim how does the Raptor version have 4 inches more legroom in the rear?
Solid question and one I'm going to try to get answered at the media drive.
@@Pickuptrucktalk thank you. Maybe a mistake on their website.
Great content! As a owner of a 2022 ranger I was really hoping that Ford would at least make some modifications to the 2.3 L eco-boost. I haven’t heard anything necessarily bad about the 2.3 and have had no issues myself. But I would’ve liked to have seen a slight boost in power, and maybe beef up some of the engine internals.
you can get a shifter like in the Colorado just to let you know Tim but I think you get that on XLT or XL I believe Lariat and Raptor get that mouse shifter I could be wrong on this if I am someone let me know
I believe if you look at the ground clearance the trail boss and the standard 4x4 ranger have the same ground clearance.
I think it's marketing. Chevy can use this as the Colorado has a lower starting price in a commercial.
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There nice but not enough room for my family. Fullsize for me.
Ones a TRUCK, and the Chevy is a PICKUP
And the Tacoma is a pickup truck?
Ford Ranger is kinda of ugly. I like the GM twins.
Biggest difference is you get 40hp & 120ft/lbs of torque with the Colorado, 11" driver display standard, and climate vents for rear passengers.
2.7 in the ranger will dick slap the Colorado.
@@freedomisntfree_44and your rear seat passengers can enjoy the heat or cold due to no rear vents. How did ford miss that?
@@freedomisntfree_44 2.7 Ranger only has 5 more hp but colorado has 30 ft/lbs torque. Why do you think the ranger has the edge? The numbers would tell me that the colorado would outperform the ranger once you put a 6000lb trailer behind them. Maybe even safer since the colorado has a larger wheelbase and width. I'm a ford guy and have owned a few old rangers, a f150, currently a f250, and have never owned a chevy truck. However, the specs on the colorado look pretty good and I do like the looks. Normally I would argue ford beng a higher quality but these pandemic/post pandemic years haven't been kind to ford with all their recalls. With that in mind it starts making sense to more seriously look at the new tacoma as well.
@@pnwdweler4100 I don’t care 😂 my taco don’t have them either. The trucks ain’t no limo. I’ll take the payload and towing over rear air 🤣
@@spyder000069 faster in the f150 as well. The 2.3 rangers are just as fast actually when you look at 0-60 times.
When will the 2.7 be available for the ranger?
Cant wait for the ranger. Love the new interior and the new facelift.
New gen, not facelift
When's the date for the First Drive Event?
The LT also doesn't have low range.
I saw an oil change video for the new Colorado/Canyon. It has a plastic oil pan & plastic drain plug. WTH? 😳
Ford did it first
So, I had a Ford Bronco with plastic radiator end caps.
Lol, Ford is the king of plastic oil pans… So what’s your point?
GM's are all metal now, they switched around July.
@@Torch4Life Good GM switched back to metal. Plastic is a terrible idea for those parts, too much chance for leaking long term.