Yeah... definitely hit the tear ducts hard! So wild how Rupert Spira has hit upon such a clear and contemporary way of talking about the human experience of reality...
Very much appreciate the question... and the response with its advice (don't think it is an answer). At 82, I feel that everything, to the tiniest detail, is laid out - in the "home" realm there is no time - everything IS, in coexistence. So how can we change that? Indeed, we come here to change ourselves, and to respond freely to what we HAVE, now this way, now that, "for better or worse"... We are told that we choose this life and everyone/everything in it before we are born... (?) If that is so, I suspect that it is our "Higher Self" who has that capacity, not each of us on this earthly plane. So Spira is right to advise that we keep an open and free heart, I would say, grateful. It seems to me that that is the best we can do here.
[4:54] God is more like a jazz musician than a classical musician. Constantly improvising on a theme. Jamming with other friends, listening, changing, responding.
Even in surrendering, lying down to die, profound enlightenment, or death, Conscioisness/God will pick mind/I up to continue into the open infinite beyond. No free will and no directed path just continual being. X
It's true, but it's being no matter what we do hahahah - still the qualities of essential existence brought into life is beauty, understanding & love - that is then also justice, freedom and respect
Loved watching Jillian in the Biggest Loser! Glad to see her promoting healthy food policies - tough job to stand against the big weights, but if anything can do it, it’s her leading the way ✊
I think that we have one life to make mistake and another to get things right..Because I can't explain so many people who didn't do things that they wanting..
I was thinking the same. He sorta says that we should be open, and that fate is something that is ever changing... so it's not pre-determined, but also that we don't necessarily have any free will in this ever changing 'female gods' plans for us. So it's sort of an answer... just not a very direct one.
One thing that may debunk free will is how many of us have deja vu or dreams of the future. Now i do agree you have the willl to decide to be in your higher self in that given moment or choose to be in the suffering mind of ego
Beautiful! Yes, a constant Creation! Constant shifts are necessary in the Dance of Creation if we are to syncronize to make a beautiful, just & peaceful life & world. I've always thought life was an improv symphony of every being (& that all is sentient/conscious). Jazz, yes, as long as it is Melodic -has harmony - & not just an excercise in dexterity. Through Awareness (yoga, service, meditation, creativity etc), we shift back into our wise non-dual holistic cooperative Right brain hemisphere natural predominance (divine feminine), which then asigns the left brain tasks - for the Benefit of All! This counteracts the imbalance of totally left brain prevaling world culture/economy/education systems & resulting ruinous effects.
@@honeybunchhoneybunch9954 Thankyou Honeybunch! You may like Iain McGilchrist's work, which deeply resonated with what I'd Known/Seen all my life. Incredible visionary summation of so much. There's a Free UA-cam documentary The Divided Brain. I'm afraid I have a very curious mind, love to learn & am pulled to many fascinating avenues...
How does a child say yes to horrible abuse? How does the weaker say yes to horrible torture ? How does the starving say yes to unspeakable hunger? How does those with excruciating pain say yes?
Me, for example, have had several mystical experiences. I only know that there is a God. That everything is cyclical or seems to be. As I persive it, you can live dreaming or awake. Now I'm at the point where I feel like everything is like scenarios. And these scenarios often repeat themselves. To be free, I will skillfully flee from certain scenarios. As Jesus of Nazareth said: For those who BELIEVE, everything is possible. For God (the true and good one), nothing is impossible. Greetings from Spain. And be strong. Don't let nobody fool you. Love and peace ❤️
I'm not sure they are mutually exclusive. You can be open to what comes in a way that accepts that we don't have free will - in fact I think this might be the most peaceful way to experience a lack of free will. Obviously whether you do or don't according to Sapolsky is fated... but that doesn't mean they aren't compatible.
We are all walking eachother home. I feel we have already chosen our path with Divinity. We just live life to find out WHY we chose what we chose and dance while we sing life's song.
It's the conditioned mind that takes away the freedom to choose, my friend. When one becomes aware one realises one is exactly where one should be....here and now....for eternity.
Isn’t free will the freedom to choose between God and ego ? If we don’t have that freedom Rupert’s efforts are pointless. Although you could argue his actions are predetermined and so are ours.
He answers from the viewpoint of Awareness. That's why he said, "We are free." He didn't want to go to the marketplace and answer from the viewpoint of the apparent separate inside self, which is always seeking to know if it has free will or not. In fact, this question of free will is always asked from the vantage point of an apparent limited subject. In fact, the separate self is the apparent veiling of the absolute freedom that "I" truly am.
@calvinrakotobe5583 there is no absolute freedom in space-time. If you reverse the time and then replay it again, everything comes to the exact same point! And probably our first person Consciousness won't survive death, because it depends on SpaceTime to be!
@@ghaderpashayee8334 I'm not talking of freedom in space-time. I'm talking about yourself. Every seeming things happens in this dimensionless point of Awareness. So in a way, nothing happens. What you are doesn't die. It's only thinking that abstracts an imaginary limited self in the seamless experience of Being aware , and then says when the body dies, Awareness dies.
@@tjls123 I wrote it because of all the information in my personality or unconscious mind, from the Past!! If we reverse the time to before my comment, I would write the same comment again! I cannot do otherwise!
The point of fsct lost here is saying act from openess he is saying you have choice But we do not know why we choose to try to act from openess and fail or su cceed to act from openess So we have no free will no choice other than superficially and then still… what drove us to make a particular choice We are not the central reason for life but an equal part sharing, if u like with others So how can i have free will and you not. As usual he is very superficial in his respinces although he may be a sweet guy Just not as enlghtened as he seems to think
In the Sufi tradition destiny is described not prescribed. It’s a description not a prescription. Being that God is beyond space-time He already knows all that is and will be but we have free will to choose. God out of his shear grace decided to allow us to choose. This is not true of all circumstances. There are some situations that we have no choice in. We don’t choose our gender, we don’t choose the house hold we are born into. We don’t choose to get sick or get in a car accident. In some cases, like the aforementioned we have no choice. However, there are some aspects in our life where we’re given a choice and the will to choose and that is our experience. We choose whether to lie in a certain situation or tell the truth. We choose to believe or not believe in God. It is these choices that we are held accountable for. If everything was scripted then life would be pointless. If we had a choice in all matters then we would have all chosen to avoid suffering and poverty. ❤
Everything happened to me by 8 in somalia, then came everything else. Which part of that did I choose lol it is totally predestined. ALL of it. Including the pair you get as "parents" lol
I'm 99.9% sure both Ramana & ACIM says otherwise, that it all is fact scripted, just like Rupert's movie analogy that is often presented by him and other pure Teachings. I'm willing to be shown it I'm wrong here though. Will just pray about it. The attitude of Openness suggested is key though in my experience. 💚🐬🐦
We have a tendency to think of things as this or that but that's too simplified. Nature shows us time and again that it is contradictory and paradoxical. I think at the fundamental level there is both determinism and free will and it's only your perception that separates them. Yes you are free to choose, but you will only ever choose based on who and what you are. You couldn't make a different choice because then you would have to be something different, you wouldn't be you. In that way, yes there is free will, but it's also deterministic.
Sometimes I think events are simply probabilistic. For example, in any given scenario there’s an X% chance of something happening, Y% chance of something else and so on. And the probabilities either determine or prescribe how often things happen. But there’s always the possibility of of outlying things happening. 🤷
If everything was predestined then it would have already been done. What would be the point of repeating it??? Perhaps our lives as humans is predestined only in the respect that what we think and feel today creates our tomorrow.
Protestants have been arguing and dividing into schisms over this for 500 years. The Catholics and Orthodox developed a positional statement on this issue over 1,300 years ago. I wish Protestants would do the same.
So beautiful to see Rupert's humor come out. ❤😍 There is, I feel, a pre-determined destiny in the sense that what we often experience is connected to a force which is greater than us, and which includes, among other things, past trajectories of our ancestral lineage, for example. Everything in the universe seeks balance and this includes ancestral energies and spirits that we believe to be "dead" but which very much live through us and around us, and are energetically seeking to bring about balance. The subconscious is a powerful library that does not belong exclusively to us but is imprinted with the lives and the dreams and the struggles of the souls who were here before us... Perhaps all people are born in order to restore some balance that hasn't been reached somewhere in the universe... Apart from that, we very much do have choices regarding what we experience and if we follow the inner guidance, i.e. the guidance of the Intelligent Almighty Body. 🥰🌲💚
""This is not a personal problem, it is a philosophical question. Our lives are both predestined and they are not. Both yes and no. And both answers are true for all questions about life. In a way, everything is predetermined. Whatever is physical in you, material, whatever is mental, is predetermined. But something in you constantly remains undetermined, unpredictable. That something is your consciousness .If you are identified with your body and your material existence, in the same proportion you are determined by cause and effect. Then you are a machine. But if you are not identified with your material existence, with either body or mind - if you can feel yourself as something separate, different, above and transcendent to body-mind - then that transcending consciousness is not predetermined. It is spontaneous, free .Consciousness means freedom; matter means slavery. So it depends on how you define yourself. If you say, ”I am only the body,” then everything about you is completely determined. A person who says that man is only the body cannot say that man is not predetermined. Ordinarily, persons who do not believe in such a thing as consciousness also do not believe in predetermination. Persons who are religious and believe in consciousness ordinarily believe in predetermination. So what I am saying may look very contradictory. But still, it is the case. A person who has known consciousness has known freedom. So only a spiritual person can say there is no determination at all. That realization comes only when you are completely unidentified with the body. If you feel that you are just a material existence, then no freedom is possible. With matter, no freedom is possible. Matter means that which cannot be free. It must flow in the chain of cause and effect. Once someone has achieved consciousness, enlightenment, he is completely out of the realm of cause and effect. He becomes absolutely unpredictable. You cannot say anything about him. He begins to live each moment; his existence becomes atomic. Your existence is a river-like chain in which every step is determined by the past. Your future is not really future; it is just a by-product of the past. It is only the past determining, shaping, formulating and conditioning your future. That is why your future is predictable. Skinner says that man is as predictable as anything else. The only difficulty is that we have not yet devised the means to know his total past. The moment we can know his past, we can predict everything about him. Based upon the people he has worked with, Skinner is right, because they are all ultimately predictable. He has experimented with hundreds of people and he has found that they are all mechanical beings, that nothing exists within them that can be called freedom. But his study is limited. No Buddha has come to his laboratory to be experimented upon. If even one person is free, if even one person is not mechanical, not predictable, Skinner’s whole theory falls. If one person in the whole history of mankind is free and unpredictable, then man is potentially free and unpredictable. The whole possibility of freedom depends on whether you emphasize your body or your consciousness. If you are just an outward flow of life, then everything is determined. Or are you something inner also? Do not give any preformulated answer. Do not say, ”I am the soul.” If you feel there is nothing inside you, then be honest about it. This honesty will be the first step toward the inner freedom of consciousness. If you go deeply inside, you will feel that everything is just part of the outside. Your body has come from without, your thoughts have come from without, even your self has been given to you by others. That is why you are so fearful of the opinion of others - because they are completely in control of your self. They can change their opinion of you at any moment. Your self, your body, your thoughts are given to you by others, so what is inside? You are layers and layers of outside accumulation. If you are identified with this personality of yours that comes from others, then everything is determined. Become aware of everything that comes from the outside and become non-identified with it. Then a moment will come when the outside falls completely. You will be in a vacuum. This vacuum is the passage between the outside and the inside, the door. We are so afraid of the vacuum, so afraid of being empty that we cling to the outside accumulation. One has to be courageous enough to disidentify with the accumulation and to remain in the vacuum. If you are not courageous enough, you will go out and cling to something, and be filled with it. But this moment of being in the vacuum is meditation. If you are courageous enough, if you can remain in this moment, soon your whole being will automatically turn inward. When there is nothing to be attached to from the outside, your being turns inward. Then you know for the first time that you are something that transcends everything you have been thinking yourself to be. Now you are something different from becoming; you are being. This being is free; nothing can determine it. It is absolute freedom. No chain of cause and effect is possible."
I do NOT agree with him. I am shown daily from my guides / all my spiritual "master" teachers that I am ALWAYS where I am suppose to BE. The script is written. The illusion of the EGO is that you have a choice. Remove the EGO and you will become aware that you ARE not making any choices. The ONLY thing going on here is The Universe experiencing / evolving/ expressing itself. The End. There is NO you once the EGO is removed. The illusion IS thinking there is a SELF. This is GOD having a experience of pretending to BE separate from itself. Duality. There is ONE thing. THOUGHT.That is all there IS and ALL there will EVER BE. What else can thought do but the 3 Es I listed above.? One more thing. This is called the MOVIE of life. Everyone plays a role in the movie. Do not all the actors in a movie have a script to play their part? If you learn of archetypes then you understand EVERYTHING is a archetype. Even a rock plays the role of the ROCK. The thing you are guaranteed of is DRAMA. Look around you at the drama in the movie of life. Back to the 3 Es. Experience/Evolving/Expressing is occurring.
He’s saying the same thing from a different perspective. Just gotta read through the lines. It is pre-ordained AND it is all happening as it happens. Nobody sat and wrote a script “before,” there is no “before” nor any being to write it. It happens as it unfolds. And to us that takes time but to Reality it is timeless and all occurring in the same moment in the same placeless place. Rupert speaks from experience and his response reflect the individual questioner. I don’t get the vibe that you are speaking from a “realized” or “egoless” state (even though that’s silly cause there is no ego lol), but that you are essentially repeating what you have heard or read or experienced from teachers and masters. I agree we are always where we are supposed to be. And that’s also what Rupert teaches. He’s just saying to take each moment as it comes with open Heart and to serve humanity with what comes naturally through that openness. And if you look at any of the great masters, that is what they did. As much as they said that all is well and in perfection, they also served humanity immensely with their presence, teachings, time, and energy and played their part in relieving the human suffering (often times by literally taking on their devotees karma and disease). No need to create division, it’s all the same teaching just expressed in unique ways.
Yes this is my experience too. We have the illusion of choice. There is no one there. I like Rupert but I sometimes wonder if he is simply brilliant intellectually, similar to Krisnamurty.
The answer is nice and funny. However the comments about God doesn't make much sense to me. The ways of the Lord are, from a human point, unsearchable (Romans 11:33-36), which implies that we can never know if her/his original script are sometimes changed or not.
Dear Rupert. I didn't find a direct email to you, so let me at least use this comment to sincerely thank You. For Your amazing work that allowed me to achieve that final shift in consciousness in an incredibly short time. I cannot fully express how grateful I am right now. I have finally arrived at the place; I have never left. Thank You. Thank You. Thank You. With deep love, John.
Rupert looks great with his hairs natural coloring. Rare these days to see some of the big name teachers allowing themselves to grow old gracefully. It helps us all. I have to laugh every time I see a recent pic of Gangaji, an 80 yr old non dual teacher who looks 40. She's a mockery to nature.
Before having the conversation we have to think about the movie play when the director is completed the with all characters and seens then we all are going to allow to watch on theatre like that every single take of our life journey is completely predestined God planned a great masic here if it is predestined we don't do anything for life that sack ,he creates illusion ego to drive our forces and act we are the creator's of our own Life.
If you sit and just be, then you might as well become a tree. If you want to live and be free, then you need to learn to fly like a bee. But you won't progress on the path by ignoring what's in your heart.
My favorite part of this conversation was the end when both said to each other , " I love you" That brought tears to my eyes it was so beautiful.
You are not alone, my friend. ❤
Yeah... definitely hit the tear ducts hard! So wild how Rupert Spira has hit upon such a clear and contemporary way of talking about the human experience of reality...
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Me too. 'Thank you my friend' did it for me.
I love you 🥰
If we all treated each other with this kind of love and respect, it would be heaven on Earth 😇🙏
Without hatred, you may not know what true love feels like. Just be grateful for the existence that you are experiencing
One of the most beautiful videos I've seen. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you, I came here to write the same. ❤
Indeed 👍🙏💕
This melted my heart. It has to be one of my absolute favorite exchanges of beingness. 💕
I love this guy ❤ he can be so serious and suddenly starts joking he's a gem.
Thanks for existing Rupert!
Only 3 mins in and easily the wittiest I’ve ever heard Rupert be. What fun!
Thank God our life didn’t turn out as we planned it. Love you too 🙏🏼
Made me cry 🙏🏻
@@stevej.7926 Same. Bless you, I love you too. 🙏🏼
Very much appreciate the question... and the response with its advice (don't think it is an answer). At 82, I feel that everything, to the tiniest detail, is laid out - in the "home" realm there is no time - everything IS, in coexistence. So how can we change that? Indeed, we come here to change ourselves, and to respond freely to what we HAVE, now this way, now that, "for better or worse"... We are told that we choose this life and everyone/everything in it before we are born... (?) If that is so, I suspect that it is our "Higher Self" who has that capacity, not each of us on this earthly plane. So Spira is right to advise that we keep an open and free heart, I would say, grateful. It seems to me that that is the best we can do here.
What is supposedly laid out is what we have to learn in this life, not the way those learnings are going to happen.
Just perfect and perfect timing. Thank you!
Those who said, silently watching and hearing..i Love you too
Rupert your love is well recognised and received
OPEN surrender 🙏
What I think & feel today
‘Creates’ tomorrow 👀!
Wonderful, loving conversation, I love you my friends❤
[4:54] God is more like a jazz musician than a classical musician. Constantly improvising on a theme. Jamming with other friends, listening, changing, responding.
Beautiful. "Thank you my friend❤"
Exactly.
Why did a large portion of the audience laugh when he said that?
Even in surrendering, lying down to die, profound enlightenment, or death, Conscioisness/God will pick mind/I up to continue into the open infinite beyond. No free will and no directed path just continual being. X
It's true, but it's being no matter what we do hahahah - still the qualities of essential existence brought into life is beauty, understanding & love - that is then also justice, freedom and respect
@@peace_in_the_now Absolutely IS.
The sincerity of the heart. So Beautiful ❤🙏🏻
Loved watching Jillian in the Biggest Loser! Glad to see her promoting healthy food policies - tough job to stand against the big weights, but if anything can do it, it’s her leading the way ✊
❤thank you , both
I LOVE Rupert so much!
Excelent Question
I think that we have one life to make mistake and another to get things right..Because I can't explain so many people who didn't do things that they wanting..
great question... find myself wondering the same thing often
This is called a dodge of the question
I was thinking the same. He sorta says that we should be open, and that fate is something that is ever changing... so it's not pre-determined, but also that we don't necessarily have any free will in this ever changing 'female gods' plans for us. So it's sort of an answer... just not a very direct one.
I love you Rupert ❤. Fall Short of words to express my gratitude for your compassion and love towards humanity 🙏🙏❤️
One thing that may debunk free will is how many of us have deja vu or dreams of the future. Now i do agree you have the willl to decide to be in your higher self in that given moment or choose to be in the suffering mind of ego
Déjà vus can be explained by parallel universes.
Beautiful! Yes, a constant Creation! Constant shifts are necessary in the Dance of Creation if we are to syncronize to make a beautiful, just & peaceful life & world. I've always thought life was an improv symphony of every being (& that all is sentient/conscious). Jazz, yes, as long as it is Melodic -has harmony - & not just an excercise in dexterity.
Through Awareness (yoga, service, meditation, creativity etc), we shift back into our wise non-dual holistic cooperative Right brain hemisphere natural predominance (divine feminine), which then asigns the left brain tasks - for the Benefit of All! This counteracts the imbalance of totally left brain prevaling world culture/economy/education systems & resulting ruinous effects.
That’s a profound statement and thanks for posting as it rings so true. ❤
@@honeybunchhoneybunch9954 Thankyou Honeybunch! You may like Iain McGilchrist's work, which deeply resonated with what I'd Known/Seen all my life. Incredible visionary summation of so much. There's a Free UA-cam documentary The Divided Brain.
I'm afraid I have a very curious mind, love to learn & am pulled to many fascinating avenues...
I like your ideas/insights/views. ❤😊❤ Thank you for putting your thoughts and insights so clearly out here. ❤❤❤❤❤
I adore you Rupert. I needed this today. Praying for US ALL …… (Cute young man asked this wonderful question too. Too sweet. Ah the love!)
Oh my god the last words🙏💕!! So beautifull
How does a child say yes to horrible abuse? How does the weaker say yes to horrible torture ? How does the starving say yes to unspeakable hunger? How does those with excruciating pain say yes?
Freewill is not submitting to life
So beautiful, thank you all for sharing the L🧡VE 🤗🙏✨
This is love in action. Thank you Rupert.
"love and understanding is the same for all of us but expressed differently through each of us..." blessings ❤❤❤
Thank you my friend ❤
I feel like he is reading from the Quran in English. What a sublime way of expressing this Mystery!
Out of curiosity, is there a specific part of the Quran you are reffering to?
Yes, to what are you reffering, would love to read it!
Great video 👍🏻😊
So beautiful ❤
Beautiful ❤
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Love you Too ❤. Wonderful opening question.
Me, for example, have had several mystical experiences. I only know that there is a God. That everything is cyclical or seems to be. As I persive it, you can live dreaming or awake.
Now I'm at the point where I feel like everything is like scenarios. And these scenarios often repeat themselves. To be free, I will skillfully flee from certain scenarios. As Jesus of Nazareth said: For those who BELIEVE, everything is possible. For God (the true and good one), nothing is impossible. Greetings from Spain. And be strong. Don't let nobody fool you. Love and peace ❤️
Robert Sapolsky would disagree with these views.
I'm not sure they are mutually exclusive. You can be open to what comes in a way that accepts that we don't have free will - in fact I think this might be the most peaceful way to experience a lack of free will. Obviously whether you do or don't according to Sapolsky is fated... but that doesn't mean they aren't compatible.
We like to _believe_ in free will, but *destiny* is all there is. Who really chooses?
You can choose right now
Were you forced or coerced to write this comment??? Or did you decide to?
@@tjls123 I chose to, but I assume I was destined to do so.
So wonderful, beautiful thank you so much Rupert.✨️🙏✨️
We are all walking eachother home. I feel we have already chosen our path with Divinity. We just live life to find out WHY we chose what we chose and dance while we sing life's song.
You can change your mind in this very moment. Don't ever think your future is something you have no effect upon.
It's the conditioned mind that takes away the freedom to choose, my friend. When one becomes aware one realises one is exactly where one should be....here and now....for eternity.
Beautiful ❤. I totally resonate with this
Immense gratitude and love 🙏❤️
Thank you. I love you.
Infinte Consciousnes/the Supreme Self is omnicinet..it already knows whats happened and will happen..
it is so so touching, thank you for sharing
Wonderfull sense of humor and love. Thank You
Thank you.
How beautiful it is to see Life this way.. ! Thank you 🙏🏼
Isn’t free will the freedom to choose between God and ego ? If we don’t have that freedom Rupert’s efforts are pointless. Although you could argue his actions are predetermined and so are ours.
It was not predetermined that you write this comment. You and I choose to do these things.
@@tjls123did you have freewill when your bowels move or when you get hungry? We’re your actions not caused in any way?
Dziękuję. Kocham Cię.
Thank you! ❤
I always find it intriguing to look at the faces of the people who are in a Rupert Spira audience...
…thank you for this 9.20 minutes of pur love…I can feel it to the infinity of my soul, and down to the last sequence of my DNA…🙏🍀💕☀️👋…
THANKS ALOT......
❤❤❤thank you so much🙏
No clear answer to the question about free will!
Maybe because he thinks we dont have free will, he avoided to answer!
He answers from the viewpoint of Awareness. That's why he said, "We are free." He didn't want to go to the marketplace and answer from the viewpoint of the apparent separate inside self, which is always seeking to know if it has free will or not. In fact, this question of free will is always asked from the vantage point of an apparent limited subject. In fact, the separate self is the apparent veiling of the absolute freedom that "I" truly am.
@calvinrakotobe5583 there is no absolute freedom in space-time. If you reverse the time and then replay it again, everything comes to the exact same point!
And probably our first person Consciousness won't survive death, because it depends on SpaceTime to be!
@@ghaderpashayee8334 I'm not talking of freedom in space-time. I'm talking about yourself. Every seeming things happens in this dimensionless point of Awareness. So in a way, nothing happens. What you are doesn't die. It's only thinking that abstracts an imaginary limited self in the seamless experience of Being aware , and then says when the body dies, Awareness dies.
You writing this comment is an example of free will. It obviously exists
@@tjls123 I wrote it because of all the information in my personality or unconscious mind, from the Past!!
If we reverse the time to before my comment, I would write the same comment again! I cannot do otherwise!
The point of fsct lost here is saying act from openess he is saying you have choice
But we do not know why we choose to try to act from openess and fail or su cceed to act from openess
So we have no free will no choice other than superficially and then still… what drove us to make a particular choice
We are not the central reason for life but an equal part sharing, if u like with others
So how can i have free will and you not.
As usual he is very superficial in his respinces although he may be a sweet guy
Just not as enlghtened as he seems to think
I loved the ending 🥹💕
So very lovely....Beautiful ❤
Wow truly beautiful and blessed!!! Recognising a perfect sync and adoring the God's pristine Presence in me and adoring it. Infinite Love & Gratitude.
In the Sufi tradition destiny is described not prescribed. It’s a description not a prescription. Being that God is beyond space-time He already knows all that is and will be but we have free will to choose. God out of his shear grace decided to allow us to choose. This is not true of all circumstances. There are some situations that we have no choice in. We don’t choose our gender, we don’t choose the house hold we are born into. We don’t choose to get sick or get in a car accident. In some cases, like the aforementioned we have no choice. However, there are some aspects in our life where we’re given a choice and the will to choose and that is our experience. We choose whether to lie in a certain situation or tell the truth. We choose to believe or not believe in God. It is these choices that we are held accountable for. If everything was scripted then life would be pointless. If we had a choice in all matters then we would have all chosen to avoid suffering and poverty. ❤
According to reincarnation believers, we choose our parents.
Thank you❤
Spoke directly to me in light of US election. Thank you
I'm so glad the questioner said, to "serve all beings", which means all forms of life. Another great video, wonderful explanation. ❤❤
Viruses, bacteria, and parasites are alive
Man can't be without Ego, so God is the answer to our "state of consciousness" in every moment to guide us back to our "home", where we came from❤
I agree with you
Thank you
If God is a female who likes to play improvisational jazz, it must be Lisa Simpson!
😂😂😂😂
Honestly... if you stop this as just a still picture at 2:05 it is like "Accidental Renaissance". lol!
- "I have seen god!"
- "How does he look like?"
- "She is black..."
❤❤❤. 🙏🙏🙏.Thank you.
Everything happened to me by 8 in somalia, then came everything else. Which part of that did I choose lol it is totally predestined. ALL of it. Including the pair you get as "parents" lol
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We’ve gotta deal with the cards we’ve been dealt.
I'm 99.9% sure both Ramana & ACIM says otherwise, that it all is fact scripted, just like Rupert's movie analogy that is often presented by him and other pure Teachings. I'm willing to be shown it I'm wrong here though. Will just pray about it. The attitude of Openness suggested is key though in my experience. 💚🐬🐦
What if it was Rupert's destiny to say EXACTLY what he had to say ? And what if you were destined to comment EXACTLY the way you did ?
Yes you are correct, Ramana does clearly say that whatever is destined to happen will and whatever is not destined cannot happen.
We have a tendency to think of things as this or that but that's too simplified. Nature shows us time and again that it is contradictory and paradoxical. I think at the fundamental level there is both determinism and free will and it's only your perception that separates them. Yes you are free to choose, but you will only ever choose based on who and what you are. You couldn't make a different choice because then you would have to be something different, you wouldn't be you. In that way, yes there is free will, but it's also deterministic.
Sometimes I think events are simply probabilistic. For example, in any given scenario there’s an X% chance of something happening, Y% chance of something else and so on. And the probabilities either determine or prescribe how often things happen. But there’s always the possibility of of outlying things happening. 🤷
If everything was predestined then it would have already been done. What would be the point of repeating it??? Perhaps our lives as humans is predestined only in the respect that what we think and feel today creates our tomorrow.
Protestants have been arguing and dividing into schisms over this for 500 years. The Catholics and Orthodox developed a positional statement on this issue over 1,300 years ago. I wish Protestants would do the same.
LoL I didn't know Rupert had that kind of humor.
So beautiful to see Rupert's humor come out. ❤😍
There is, I feel, a pre-determined destiny in the sense that what we often experience is connected to a force which is greater than us, and which includes, among other things, past trajectories of our ancestral lineage, for example.
Everything in the universe seeks balance and this includes ancestral energies and spirits that we believe to be "dead" but which very much live through us and around us, and are energetically seeking to bring about balance.
The subconscious is a powerful library that does not belong exclusively to us but is imprinted with the lives and the dreams and the struggles of the souls who were here before us...
Perhaps all people are born in order to restore some balance that hasn't been reached somewhere in the universe...
Apart from that, we very much do have choices regarding what we experience and if we follow the inner guidance, i.e. the guidance of the Intelligent Almighty Body. 🥰🌲💚
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god is a women and always changing her mind 😂😂 that made me laugh lol
""This is not a personal problem, it is a philosophical question. Our lives are both predestined and they are not. Both yes and no. And both answers are true for all questions about life. In a way, everything is predetermined. Whatever is physical in you, material, whatever is mental, is predetermined. But something in you constantly remains undetermined, unpredictable. That something is your consciousness .If you are identified with your body and your material existence, in the same proportion you are determined by cause and effect. Then you are a machine. But if you are not identified with your material existence, with either body or mind - if you can feel yourself as something separate, different, above and transcendent to body-mind - then that transcending consciousness is not predetermined. It is spontaneous, free .Consciousness means freedom; matter means slavery. So it depends on how you define yourself. If you say, ”I am only the body,” then everything about you is completely determined. A person who says that man is only the body cannot say that man is not predetermined. Ordinarily, persons who do not believe in such a thing as consciousness also do not believe in predetermination.
Persons who are religious and believe in consciousness ordinarily believe in predetermination. So what I am saying may look very contradictory. But still, it is the case. A person who has known consciousness has known freedom. So only a spiritual person can say there is no determination at all. That realization comes only when you are completely unidentified with the body. If you feel that you are just a material existence, then no freedom is possible. With matter, no freedom is possible. Matter means that which cannot be free. It must flow in the chain of cause and effect. Once someone has achieved consciousness, enlightenment, he is completely out of the realm of cause and effect. He becomes absolutely unpredictable. You cannot say anything about him. He begins to live each moment; his existence becomes atomic.
Your existence is a river-like chain in which every step is determined by the past. Your future is not really future; it is just a by-product of the past. It is only the past determining, shaping, formulating and conditioning your future. That is why your future is predictable.
Skinner says that man is as predictable as anything else. The only difficulty is that we have not yet devised the means to know his total past. The moment we can know his past, we can predict everything about him. Based upon the people he has worked with, Skinner is right, because they are all ultimately predictable. He has experimented with hundreds of people and he has found that they are all mechanical beings, that nothing exists within them that can be called freedom.
But his study is limited. No Buddha has come to his laboratory to be experimented upon. If even one person is free, if even one person is not mechanical, not predictable, Skinner’s whole theory falls. If one person in the whole history of mankind is free and unpredictable, then man is potentially free and unpredictable. The whole possibility of freedom depends on whether you emphasize your body or your consciousness. If you are just an outward flow of life, then everything is determined. Or are you something inner also? Do not give any preformulated answer. Do not say, ”I am the soul.” If you feel there is nothing inside you, then be honest about it. This honesty will be the first step toward the inner freedom of consciousness. If you go deeply inside, you will feel that everything is just part of the outside. Your body has come from without, your thoughts have come from without, even your self has been given to you by others.
That is why you are so fearful of the opinion of others - because they are completely in control of your self. They can change their opinion of you at any moment. Your self, your body, your thoughts are given to you by others, so what is inside? You are layers and layers of outside accumulation. If you are identified with this personality of yours that comes from others, then everything is determined.
Become aware of everything that comes from the outside and become non-identified with it. Then a moment will come when the outside falls completely. You will be in a vacuum. This vacuum is the passage between the outside and the inside, the door. We are so afraid of the vacuum, so afraid of being empty that we cling to the outside accumulation. One has to be courageous enough to disidentify with the accumulation and to remain in the vacuum. If you are not courageous enough, you will go out and cling to something, and be filled with it. But this moment of being in the vacuum is meditation. If you are courageous enough, if you can remain in this moment, soon your whole being will automatically turn inward. When there is nothing to be attached to from the outside, your being turns inward. Then you know for the first time that you are something that transcends everything you have been thinking yourself to be. Now you are something different from becoming; you are being. This being is free; nothing can determine it. It is absolute freedom. No chain of cause and effect is possible."
I wonder will karma play a part in the attempted genocide of the people in Gaza.
It was just attempted?
If you attempt to steal but don't actually steal, then you didn't steal.
I'm a little confused so he is basically saying act on your impulses from an open heart not a closed heart correct?
I do NOT agree with him. I am shown daily from my guides / all my spiritual "master" teachers that I am ALWAYS where I am suppose to BE. The script is written. The illusion of the EGO is that you have a choice. Remove the EGO and you will become aware that you ARE not making any choices. The ONLY thing going on here is The Universe experiencing / evolving/ expressing itself. The End. There is NO you once the EGO is removed. The illusion IS thinking there is a SELF. This is GOD having a experience of pretending to BE separate from itself. Duality. There is ONE thing. THOUGHT.That is all there IS and ALL there will EVER BE. What else can thought do but the 3 Es I listed above.?
One more thing. This is called the MOVIE of life. Everyone plays a role in the movie. Do not all the actors in a movie have a script to play their part? If you learn of archetypes then you understand EVERYTHING is a archetype. Even a rock plays the role of the ROCK. The thing you are guaranteed of is DRAMA. Look around you at the drama in the movie of life. Back to the 3 Es. Experience/Evolving/Expressing is occurring.
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I have the same doubts
I agree with you.
He’s saying the same thing from a different perspective. Just gotta read through the lines. It is pre-ordained AND it is all happening as it happens. Nobody sat and wrote a script “before,” there is no “before” nor any being to write it. It happens as it unfolds. And to us that takes time but to Reality it is timeless and all occurring in the same moment in the same placeless place. Rupert speaks from experience and his response reflect the individual questioner. I don’t get the vibe that you are speaking from a “realized” or “egoless” state (even though that’s silly cause there is no ego lol), but that you are essentially repeating what you have heard or read or experienced from teachers and masters. I agree we are always where we are supposed to be. And that’s also what Rupert teaches. He’s just saying to take each moment as it comes with open Heart and to serve humanity with what comes naturally through that openness. And if you look at any of the great masters, that is what they did. As much as they said that all is well and in perfection, they also served humanity immensely with their presence, teachings, time, and energy and played their part in relieving the human suffering (often times by literally taking on their devotees karma and disease). No need to create division, it’s all the same teaching just expressed in unique ways.
Yes this is my experience too. We have the illusion of choice. There is no one there. I like Rupert but I sometimes wonder if he is simply brilliant intellectually, similar to Krisnamurty.
The answer is nice and funny. However the comments about God doesn't make much sense to me. The ways of the Lord are, from a human point, unsearchable (Romans 11:33-36), which implies that we can never know if her/his original script are sometimes changed or not.
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Dear Rupert. I didn't find a direct email to you, so let me at least use this comment to sincerely thank You. For Your amazing work that allowed me to achieve that final shift in consciousness in an incredibly short time. I cannot fully express how grateful I am right now. I have finally arrived at the place; I have never left. Thank You. Thank You. Thank You. With deep love, John.
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Rupert looks great with his hairs natural coloring. Rare these days to see some of the big name teachers allowing themselves to grow old gracefully. It helps us all. I have to laugh every time I see a recent pic of Gangaji, an 80 yr old non dual teacher who looks 40. She's a mockery to nature.
Before having the conversation we have to think about the movie play when the director is completed the with all characters and seens then we all are going to allow to watch on theatre like that every single take of our life journey is completely predestined God planned a great masic here if it is predestined we don't do anything for life that sack ,he creates illusion ego to drive our forces and act we are the creator's of our own Life.
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Numerology proves predestination. Decode your reality. 💗
how numerology prove that if you don't mind me asking
If you sit and just be, then you might as well become a tree. If you want to live and be free, then you need to learn to fly like a bee. But you won't progress on the path by ignoring what's in your heart.
Surrender
The ultimate spiritual practice
Gratitude and striving joyfully