Discraft DISC BATTLE! Stalker vs Undertaker
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- Опубліковано 23 жов 2020
- In today's Disc Battle, I compare the cult favorite Stalker against the main stream Undertaker! See what makes both of these discs unique and which one I would suggest to players over the other.
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Be sure to check out both my Stalker and Undertaker Reviews as well for more details on both discs.
Stalker: • Discraft Stalker | Sta...
Undertaker: • Discraft Undertaker | ...
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Great video...seems like two really nice discs! You’ve sold me...I want to check out the Undertaker now! 😂 Also congratulations on 2K subscribers!! Awesome stuff, and very much deserved! Thanks for the content you create 👍👍
Thank you for the support! Hope you enjoy the Undertaker! It is my 2nd favorite fairway driver behind the Pipeline.
Gotta support the MN local!
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Great vid I have a stalker it is a great disc pretty much a driver version of the buzzz
Congrats on 2k subs also you deserve more than 2k subs
Thank you! I almost even missed passing 2k 😅. 1900-2000 went by so fast! Word is getting out!
I'm bagging both for now ... admittedly I just got my Stalkers and haven't thrown them yet, while the Undertaker is one of the discs from Discraft that I fell in love with immediately. We'll see how my bag shakes out once I get more time with the new (to me) mold.
Great comparison! ty.
Just bought a Stalker after playing a round at BRP! Saw that throw at hole 1 and had to leave a comment. Can’t wait to throw this thing!
They are very good! 2020 was a great year for the Stalker as there were many different plastic types released.
so my first time playing two rounds in a day, i got my first ace with a stalker! then on the next round, i got an ace with my tour series undertaker!
That is awesome!!! Great to hear they are both treating you well!!
I used to have a stalker when I first started playing disc golf. I couldn't tell if she was obsessed with me or my game 😉
Could be both? 🤷♂️
Your disc reviews are the best I have seen
Thank you!
Hard to compare these discs to each other and pick a winner. The undertaker is definitely more of a driver for distance, while the Stalker I use as a 'longer Buzzz' for those 'in between' shots where I dont feel I can reach with a mid, but I might overfly with a 9 speed fairway. I have a King Z Stalker that that has enough fade to be flicked and used for hyzer utility shots in between the zone/raptor. Then I have a Pierce Ti Stalker that is super straight and glides for days. An ESP and a Ti Vulture kicked the undertakers out of my bag for my long fairway driver, after trying 4 different Undertakers over a two year time frame: PMcB 4 and 5 time Ti's that always hurt my fingers on release and they did not glide at all (weird-i know), an ESP that was very overstable and not glidey, and a Z that I liked, but switched it to an Avenger SS for turnover shots.
Team #stalker! That was weird to say. I dont really carry mids. The stalker is perfect step up from putters for me. I didnt even notice the bead on it for a long time.
Great vid as always!
Thank you!
Minor editing error. Wrong disc image used for Titanium Stalker shot. At least it was a Titanium stamped CryZtal 🤷♂️
I know CP adams 18 when i see it! Great to see the home course make a cameo!
I wish I could get over there more!
liked the Undertaker right from the beginning of playing 2 years ago. since i don‘t have a big arm, i tried the Stalker as well to match the disc speed to my arm speed - and now i pack both of them in my bag while most of the time struggeling to decide which one i want to throw 😎🤪
For me when I bagged both, I decided on which depending on how hard I had to throw. If I felt I had to power down on the Undertaker, I would throw the Stalker and if I felt I had to overpower the Stalker, I would toss the Undertaker. Such a great combo!
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf I bag both and i notice that the stalker skips it SKIPS so i use it for shorter shots and low skip shots and i use the undertaker for my straight fairway
What Discraft disc would you recommend to hold an anhyzer with forehand?
Depends on how fast of an arm and how much fast of a disc you are wanting. I know faster arms are able to get Undertakers to hold turnovers all the way to the ground, while most players can get the result with a Sting. If you are wanting something faster than a Sting (speed 7) an Avenger SS (speed 10) or Prototype Hades (speed 12) works as well. If you are starting, I’d say look more at the Sting, while if you are more experienced, look into the other 2 options. I’ve heard the ESP Avenger SS are the flippiest.
Would it make sense to mirror the footage vertically to show the throws from both a left and right handed perspective?
Ive played around with it, but it just looks odd side by side. If I threw in a field with no trees near the “tee pad” it might work. That is a reason I try to put in a lot of forehand shots, give the “right” perspective 😉.
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf Cool that you've experimented with it :) Makes sense that it would look a bit uncanny showing the same footage side by side mirrored, maybe one after another or different throwing spots cold do it. Minimal surrounding objects does sound like a good idea too, but forhands are probably good enough, i'm new to the sport so I can't tell if a forhand behaves exactly the opposite of a backhand :D
@@ReviveNRepair it should have a similar flight, the major difference is the angle off the tee is a little different than say a right hand backhand. I’ll have to play around mirroring shots again one after the other.
Noticed highland park in some of the throws! Any recommendations for courses near the twin cities?
Depending what you are looking for. If you want to challenge scrambling and hitting lines, Kaposia is a good option. The Valley is a good mix of tight fairways and open holes with some elevation and it’s near Kaposia. On the other side of the cities, I like Bryant Lake. Very well maintained and has both short and long tees/baskets so good for all skill levels. They are pay to play which the only downside. For free to play, Kenwood Trails in Lakeville, Garlough near the Valley, Brockway in Rosemount and Alimagnet in Apple Valley are all good options!
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf awesome thanks for the reply! I’ve been to all of them except Bryant! I’ll have to try it out!
@@bradygross1530 Bryant is probably my favorite course in the area! A true underrated gem. Definitely up there with Preserve and BRP as top course in MN.
I tend to turn my undertaker over slightly maybe because I tend throw more flat to anhyzer for power and balance. Is there a discraft driver you might recommend for more of a reliably stable finish?
Sticking with Discraft and same speed, Raptor would be the next step up. After that the Captain’s Raptor.
Sounds like I need to give a z flx undertaker a shot to compliment my esp undertaker's in my bags.. I haven't thrown the stalker in years. May have to pick one up just to have one
It's a 30 ft longer buzzz
Just be sure not to get a Ledgestone one. They are BEEF!
The difference is that there's a million and one undertakers from various brands out there (I use a saint pro), but there's only 1 stalker. Very few discs are that long and that straight at that stability.
The undertaker has been my favorite disc since I found it
Was that CP Adams park?
Correct!
Stalker goes surprisingly far (350). More understable than I would have guessed. I had a Ti Undertaker that was very stable and took a year to beat in (then I lost it in the water). Undertaker was a nice straight flyer once seasoned. Both good discs.
Z Stalkers are much more workable than I would have thought as well. For my arm, the Tour Series, Big Z (fresh out of the box) and CryZtal are more what I was expecting.
I throw both tbh. Undertaker is definitely my primary fairway driver but there stalker is definitely more precise
One can definitely bag both and I high encourage it! I feel the Undertaker is a longer Stalker that will give you a little more turn and a little more fade! I know I’ve bagged both.
Review the Vulture?
Definitely on my list to review in 2021! If you do want to see the. Vulture in action, I do have a Disc Battle with the Vulture and Anax!
The reason I watch “Undertaker-videos” is because I struggle to love my yellow one in Z plastic. I try, but can’t really yet😊
Personally I do not like the newer Z that have the flight numbers. Best Z were the pre-flight numbers, super straight!
i could not throw it but then when I threw my brother's tour series i aced it so he gave it to me but i love that tour series!
I never really got the stalker. It feels weird in the hand and has essentially no glide (Which is probably the reason it flies so straight). Its difficult for me to push it past 300 while my undertaker goes 350+ fairly easily.
So the stalker was doing its job for you then. The stalker is good at long straight shots like tunnels and low ceilings, where you cant afford much left or right
@@QactisX Not really because I felt like I had to throw it really hard to get it to go anywhere for me. I'd rather just throw a buzzz or an FD because they both have more glide making it easier to hit lines since I don't have to throw as hard.
@@travisallen9689 some of us use a lot of torque and stalkers can handle a lot more than an FD can. My straight midrange of choice is a 178g x link firm Ibex cause it can handle a ton of torque
The difference in distance is definitely due to the faster speed of the Undertaker, but that is a bigger gap than I would expect. I know for myself the issue I have is the Stalker goes just as far as my Buzzz, so I have quite a bit of overlap (hence why Stalkers are not in my bag currently). But for bigger arms, they can better take advantage of the speed gap than I ever could!
I like my old comet/roc combo... So a stalker is a great step up so I don't carry a Buzzz.
Stalker is such an underrated disc! It’s really is the Buzzz in Fairway Driver form!
what elevation are you at?
Ummm can’t say for sure, but google has MN between 600-2300ft above sea level with an average about 1200ft
Oh cool. That's good information to know the stability of your discs
I almost forget that elevation drastically changes the flight of a disc. If I ever went to Colorado, my discs would all be so overstable 😅
The difference for me aside from speed is the stalker is kinda more torque resistant I can really yank on it. The undertaker is a little more finesse
This is always my hardest decision in my bag... if I didn't have so many of both of these molds I think I could cut it down to just the undertakers lol
Definitely a use for both. Since the are similar (Stalker having a little less turn/fade) I have been know to use the Stalker when I don’t want to power down on the Undertaker and vice versa.
I have 3 mdgo 2020 glow stalkers and man are they beefy. A lot more os than my Zs for sure. The PFN stalkers are my fav, very neutral with a slight finish, little gummier as well.
I have big z undertaker and z stalker, and the Undertaker is WAY more overstable. The stalker is pretty much a mantis
Some runs of the Big Z Undertakers I have heard are ridiculous overstable! I have been meaning to throw one!