Hello, I have a question for you. I already have a non-Xiaomi internet router. It works pretty well and I don't want to change it. Is it possible to extend the coverage of my existing wifi network (PPPOE) in the house with 2pack nodes (Xiaomi AX3000) to increase the internet coverage without replacing my existing router, turning the nodes into a second and third point for seamless internet access, by scattering them in various places around the house without being wired to the existing non-Xiaomi router? Is it possible and how is this done?
Heya It's not possible mesh wise and only have one ssid. You would have to use repeater mode (which is garbage) to have one ssid, so you may as well buy cheaper repeaters which I don't recommend. Best thing to do is use cable to the first node and then extend mesh from there but that will mean 2 seperate ssids. Honestly not a good idea to cross manufacturers in home network because QoS, security etc. If signal is an issue try moving the original router more central in your home. That's the best practice
Heya :) make sure you factory reset the second one (it sometimes causes issues if it is on when setting up the primary). It is possible its already meshed itself so check in the app if its there
Heya Not conventionally no. You would have to share it over IP which is possible (I have never done it before) but also they will be a mirror not independant
Big disadvantage of this mesh router is that it can only "daisy chain" from a backhauled router and then you cannot set a stationary device to a specific router in the mesh system like other brands. I have to restart stationary devices like tv's, aircons, speakers, etc every day or multiple times a day as it would suffer from weak or no signal as it would connect to a mesh router far away with poor signal for some reason. Signal is also fairly weak as I have cheap no name brand AC mesh routers that that have a good signal between and while the AX3000 and AX32000 only get a poor or intermittent signal at the same spots. If you have a brick house you only get a signal in the same room or the room next to it. If you jump a room then you need to backhaul.
Heya thanks for the feedback :) So I have brick walls and it does struggle a little. Still think it's good value for money. Are you sure you can't assign static IPs to a device though? I did not even think of that and may be an oversight from Xiaomi which I'm sure they will fix in an update. Sorry you experience is not great. I have minimal issues, it's just when it's crossing 2 walls that there are problems as I don't backhaul (rental Hazzard)
Great tutorial! I have Xiaomi 5G Cpe Pro router which has option for Mesh but I can’t make it primary node and can’t add it in app, anyone with idea what to do? I connected one xiaomi ax3000 to that router with lan canrl and now it’s primary node and other one ax3000 is conected wirelessly
Heya I Personally have never had that model with me. My advice would be to factory reset and update the firmware on the device through IP address (and direct LAN cable will help) Make sure all other mesh devices are off when doing this. Then set it up as primary and see if you can see in app. Once you can then turn on and add the others (you may need to soft factory reset the others )
Elo :) So Tp is generally more user friendly to be brutally honest. But spec for spec the Xiaomi is better with almost double the band width. Also the Xiaomi is mesh router vs that TP model is just a router . So in my books Xiaomi wins
Hi let's say my old router is meh and if i use this even tho it's connected to my old one will the speed change? Like it won't do the random disconnect or no wifi thingy anymore? Hope you reply thanks!
Hey Generally speaking if your primary has issues you are just extending those issues with an extender. It's like trying to put a solid concrete foundation on a chalk base. Rather get your primary routers sorted or try find the issue on your router. Remember it's not always the router that causes issues, could be cable issue or even ISP. You need to diagnose the issue then fix
My major problem have been facing now is my router won’t show anything like Xiaomi in all my devices .. and the router is showing the orange instead of white
Heya Yes but it will be a waste. That drive is past the capacity of even thunderbolt 4. I would look at a drive thats 5000 rather if you aiming for that speed and then get a TB4 ready case. Just make sure you have TB4 or similar. If you have USB gen 3.2 gen 2x2 then that halves the speed of TB4 and gen 2x1 is half again. Buy according to your interface speed
Hello Mister, I have a question I don’t know if you’ll find the time to answer, but would it make a difference in speed if I got one of these and used as a repeater and plugged it into my computer with Ethernet over my old Wi-Fi 5 extender? I hear that extender halve the speed, but will this do the same?
Heya. Repeaters do half speed yea. Not exact but close. Mesh is better but the further away from the primary you go the speed will drop. There is something called backhaul which means if you run ether from primary to secondary, the speed will be more or less the same. Xiaomi can backhaul automatically (some people have had issues) but you must put it in AP mode not extender or see if it auto configs as mesh backhaul Either way mesh will be better but both devices need to be compatible Xiaomi mesh, if you use it as a repeater from another brand the speed difference will only be as a result of signal strength. Best option is cable backhaul
@@WootDini thanks for the very informative response! I actually bought it and I’ve put into wireless relay mode, and plugged an Ethernet cable from it to my Pc, I went from having 300mbps with my re450 extender to having download speed up to 650mbps! I probably could use a wired connection but it would be a serious hassle to wire.
Great Video! I recently bought the pair but whenever Im connected on the mesh node, my speeds are are dramatically downgraded. They are connected through ethernet backhaul and Im wondering if I missed a setting to configure? Have you experience anything similar? If I connect to the primary node I get the appropriate speeds from my ISP. Thanks!
Heya There are several reasons for this. But 2 main ones. 1) node proximity: primary will always be faster. It's the tertiary nodes proximity to the primary that massively effects speed. So ensure best line of site and distance. Ensuring you are not stretching the nodes too far. The suggestion from Xiaomi (and every manufacturer) overstates what the signal strength is. Compensate by adding a node potentially. 2) device proximity to tertiary. So bearing in mind point 1, if the node is already experiencing degradation and you are further away from the tertiary node, it's a double impact because you are pulling through multiple sources. Both points have the same solution. Ensure best line of site and consider adding a node inbetween far distances to improve speed. Hope this helps
@@WootDini Thanks for the info! Does this solution still apply if the nodes are connected through a wire? I understand that speed drops are par for the course when using wifi backhaul but using a wired connection should help mitigate that? One forum post suggested I connect the ethernet on the tertiary LAN port instead of WAN port and while it did work for a bit,(got the right speeds and node showed up in the mesh network) it ended up reverting back to the throttled speed. For context I have a 600mbps plan from the ISP, got those speeds on the primary node but drops to about 100mbps or less when connected to the tertiary node. Would setting the nodes to AP mode help? Thanks!
@@NicoloSantos Heya Yep this is called backhaul and it is definately a good option. Cables get messy but its the best solution. Sorry I did not mention that as an option And yes AP mode is a good option. See if it auto configs through mesh backhaul before manually doing AP
will this router ever be updated? (firmware). i live in the UAE. i bought the product here in a official store. only issue is that the router doesnt currently support uae as a region. in the latest 1.4.31 update, the routers only had saudi and kuwait which i could use as an alternative. yet those are still slow.
Heya Region won't affect the speed of the router. The reason for setting the region is because all smart devices like the routers need to be on the same region as your mi app to be able to access. If your app is UAE and router is Saudi etc you cannot make changes from the app. It will not affect its ability, just convenience
@@WootDini actually. With my router set to Saudi. The router does indeed connect to the app on uae region. Also I am a gamer. And when I play games like Fortnite. My in game ping is default to 90+. Keep in mind the mesh node is right next to my laptop and connected by Ethernet. So I wonder if it’s because it’s on Saudi regions
@@ThatKidKoalla No region would not have a bearing on your ping etc. It's only for app integration. You should check with your ISP as to why this is happening
@@WootDini yeah. I went to the games discord server, Reddit etc. I asked around. I found a person with a similar problem. He said that the isp had come and fixed something with the network. He said it was about internet exchange points. Im guessing they are going to have to come themselves to fix it
Hey You can use backhaul but still works in mesh. Note this device is not really catered to advanced users. While it's got a high spec, Xiaomi is more user friendly for beginners. There is the ability to set up as ap wireless but I have not tried that as of yet through ether. I'll check it out
Good tutorial! I had this mesh system a year ago. Worked like a dream until load shedding killed the one router
Loadshedding does this :*(
Once I disconnect the Ethernet cable I don’t have WiFi help pls
Woot is an absolute legend!
La mejor explicación de todo youtube sobre este tema muchas gracias no sabía que lo que tenía que hacer era desconcertar el cable para que funcionara
Me alegra poder ayudar :)
Sí, a veces son las soluciones simples las que funcionan mejor.
Almost 4k subs my G! Keep it up. Epic video thank you for the insight
Any time my dude
Hello, I have a question for you. I already have a non-Xiaomi internet router. It works pretty well and I don't want to change it. Is it possible to extend the coverage of my existing wifi network (PPPOE) in the house with 2pack nodes (Xiaomi AX3000) to increase the internet coverage without replacing my existing router, turning the nodes into a second and third point for seamless internet access, by scattering them in various places around the house without being wired to the existing non-Xiaomi router? Is it possible and how is this done?
Heya
It's not possible mesh wise and only have one ssid. You would have to use repeater mode (which is garbage) to have one ssid, so you may as well buy cheaper repeaters which I don't recommend.
Best thing to do is use cable to the first node and then extend mesh from there but that will mean 2 seperate ssids.
Honestly not a good idea to cross manufacturers in home network because QoS, security etc.
If signal is an issue try moving the original router more central in your home. That's the best practice
Nice, i might have missed this part, but can I add the 2nd one ?
When I click on "+" add Mesh, it doesn't detect the second one :(
Heya :) make sure you factory reset the second one (it sometimes causes issues if it is on when setting up the primary). It is possible its already meshed itself so check in the app if its there
Can you connect the main router directly to the internet box with TAE cable?
Heya so each node is a router too. And you can backhaul yes :)
Hi. 1 question, if i buy 1pack for 2pcs. Can it synchronise. I mean setting for mesh at home. 1pcs at downstairs and one more at upstairs.
Please answer my question. I want to buy 2pcs. But seller only have 1box for 1pcs only.
Heya
Not conventionally no. You would have to share it over IP which is possible (I have never done it before) but also they will be a mirror not independant
Big disadvantage of this mesh router is that it can only "daisy chain" from a backhauled router and then you cannot set a stationary device to a specific router in the mesh system like other brands. I have to restart stationary devices like tv's, aircons, speakers, etc every day or multiple times a day as it would suffer from weak or no signal as it would connect to a mesh router far away with poor signal for some reason. Signal is also fairly weak as I have cheap no name brand AC mesh routers that that have a good signal between and while the AX3000 and AX32000 only get a poor or intermittent signal at the same spots. If you have a brick house you only get a signal in the same room or the room next to it. If you jump a room then you need to backhaul.
Heya thanks for the feedback :)
So I have brick walls and it does struggle a little. Still think it's good value for money.
Are you sure you can't assign static IPs to a device though? I did not even think of that and may be an oversight from Xiaomi which I'm sure they will fix in an update.
Sorry you experience is not great. I have minimal issues, it's just when it's crossing 2 walls that there are problems as I don't backhaul (rental Hazzard)
Never buy something on the promise they'll fix it :)
Great tutorial! I have Xiaomi 5G Cpe Pro router which has option for Mesh but I can’t make it primary node and can’t add it in app, anyone with idea what to do?
I connected one xiaomi ax3000 to that router with lan canrl and now it’s primary node and other one ax3000 is conected wirelessly
Heya
I Personally have never had that model with me. My advice would be to factory reset and update the firmware on the device through IP address (and direct LAN cable will help)
Make sure all other mesh devices are off when doing this.
Then set it up as primary and see if you can see in app. Once you can then turn on and add the others (you may need to soft factory reset the others )
Thanks Woot!
My first ever super thanks :)
Wow thanks brother !
@@WootDini anytime bro.
Hello, Great tutorial, would you be abble to give me a link to download the last firmware please even if it is 1.4.31 that I don't have ?
Heya
I always get my firmware from the device update :) I try use products as they would be used
Hello i have question, between xiaomi AX3000 and tp link x20 ax1800 which one do you think better ? I cant decide which one to buy ,💀💀
Elo :)
So Tp is generally more user friendly to be brutally honest. But spec for spec the Xiaomi is better with almost double the band width. Also the Xiaomi is mesh router vs that TP model is just a router .
So in my books Xiaomi wins
Hi let's say my old router is meh and if i use this even tho it's connected to my old one will the speed change? Like it won't do the random disconnect or no wifi thingy anymore?
Hope you reply thanks!
Hey
Generally speaking if your primary has issues you are just extending those issues with an extender. It's like trying to put a solid concrete foundation on a chalk base.
Rather get your primary routers sorted or try find the issue on your router. Remember it's not always the router that causes issues, could be cable issue or even ISP.
You need to diagnose the issue then fix
My major problem have been facing now is my router won’t show anything like Xiaomi in all my devices .. and the router is showing the orange instead of white
Heya
That indicates a few things so not sure which. Generally speaking it's best to use the factory reset at the back and then update firmware
Brother can I use Seagate Firecuda 530 SSD as external drive?
If the answer is yes then which enclosure would be best suitable for it?
Heya
Yes but it will be a waste. That drive is past the capacity of even thunderbolt 4.
I would look at a drive thats 5000 rather if you aiming for that speed and then get a TB4 ready case.
Just make sure you have TB4 or similar.
If you have USB gen 3.2 gen 2x2 then that halves the speed of TB4 and gen 2x1 is half again.
Buy according to your interface speed
@@WootDini Thanks bro..
You are the best..
Where do you click to select country?
Heya. In the setup menu
Hello Mister, I have a question I don’t know if you’ll find the time to answer, but would it make a difference in speed if I got one of these and used as a repeater and plugged it into my computer with Ethernet over my old Wi-Fi 5 extender? I hear that extender halve the speed, but will this do the same?
Heya. Repeaters do half speed yea. Not exact but close.
Mesh is better but the further away from the primary you go the speed will drop.
There is something called backhaul which means if you run ether from primary to secondary, the speed will be more or less the same. Xiaomi can backhaul automatically (some people have had issues) but you must put it in AP mode not extender or see if it auto configs as mesh backhaul
Either way mesh will be better but both devices need to be compatible Xiaomi mesh, if you use it as a repeater from another brand the speed difference will only be as a result of signal strength.
Best option is cable backhaul
@@WootDini thanks for the very informative response! I actually bought it and I’ve put into wireless relay mode, and plugged an Ethernet cable from it to my Pc, I went from having 300mbps with my re450 extender to having download speed up to 650mbps! I probably could use a wired connection but it would be a serious hassle to wire.
Very nice ! I'm glad it has worked out ! I should do a tutorial for that :)
I replied here but it disappeared :/
Glad you have found a method that works well for you :)
@@WootDini thanks for the review and information, I’m very happy with the results of it!
Great Video! I recently bought the pair but whenever Im connected on the mesh node, my speeds are are dramatically downgraded. They are connected through ethernet backhaul and Im wondering if I missed a setting to configure? Have you experience anything similar? If I connect to the primary node I get the appropriate speeds from my ISP. Thanks!
Heya
There are several reasons for this. But 2 main ones.
1) node proximity: primary will always be faster. It's the tertiary nodes proximity to the primary that massively effects speed. So ensure best line of site and distance. Ensuring you are not stretching the nodes too far. The suggestion from Xiaomi (and every manufacturer) overstates what the signal strength is. Compensate by adding a node potentially.
2) device proximity to tertiary. So bearing in mind point 1, if the node is already experiencing degradation and you are further away from the tertiary node, it's a double impact because you are pulling through multiple sources.
Both points have the same solution. Ensure best line of site and consider adding a node inbetween far distances to improve speed.
Hope this helps
@@WootDini Thanks for the info!
Does this solution still apply if the nodes are connected through a wire? I understand that speed drops are par for the course when using wifi backhaul but using a wired connection should help mitigate that?
One forum post suggested I connect the ethernet on the tertiary LAN port instead of WAN port and while it did work for a bit,(got the right speeds and node showed up in the mesh network) it ended up reverting back to the throttled speed. For context I have a 600mbps plan from the ISP, got those speeds on the primary node but drops to about 100mbps or less when connected to the tertiary node.
Would setting the nodes to AP mode help? Thanks!
@@NicoloSantos Heya
Yep this is called backhaul and it is definately a good option. Cables get messy but its the best solution.
Sorry I did not mention that as an option
And yes AP mode is a good option. See if it auto configs through mesh backhaul before manually doing AP
@@WootDini Awesome thanks for the speedy reply! Will test this out!
will this router ever be updated? (firmware). i live in the UAE. i bought the product here in a official store. only issue is that the router doesnt currently support uae as a region. in the latest 1.4.31 update, the routers only had saudi and kuwait which i could use as an alternative. yet those are still slow.
Heya
Region won't affect the speed of the router. The reason for setting the region is because all smart devices like the routers need to be on the same region as your mi app to be able to access.
If your app is UAE and router is Saudi etc you cannot make changes from the app.
It will not affect its ability, just convenience
@@WootDini actually. With my router set to Saudi. The router does indeed connect to the app on uae region. Also I am a gamer. And when I play games like Fortnite. My in game ping is default to 90+. Keep in mind the mesh node is right next to my laptop and connected by Ethernet. So I wonder if it’s because it’s on Saudi regions
@@ThatKidKoalla No region would not have a bearing on your ping etc. It's only for app integration. You should check with your ISP as to why this is happening
@@WootDini yeah. I went to the games discord server, Reddit etc. I asked around. I found a person with a similar problem. He said that the isp had come and fixed something with the network. He said it was about internet exchange points. Im guessing they are going to have to come themselves to fix it
@@ThatKidKoalla exchange points are fixed remotely these days unless it's running an old school physical box.
How can you setup this device in real AP mode? You describe only NAT mode. Sorry, this is little useless, because you don't see rest of your LAN...
Hey
You can use backhaul but still works in mesh.
Note this device is not really catered to advanced users. While it's got a high spec, Xiaomi is more user friendly for beginners.
There is the ability to set up as ap wireless but I have not tried that as of yet through ether. I'll check it out
Keychron review when Mr Wootdini? :P
Lol when I am asked 😂
@@WootDini Looking forward to it sir.
Why SouthAfrika?
Hey
I'm south African ?
@@WootDini okay, I thought there is something special behind it.
@@TheCybercrash no :) not at all
@@WootDini I've just bought the Routers. Really great. Good range and very fast. They just work. Thanks for the review
I'm glad I could help and happy they working for you 😊