The slam dunk manga made me love the sport of basketball. You get to learn the sport while Sakuragi is learning and it’s such an immersive experience. The art really just jumps out at you too so it’s such a fun reading experience
Exactly why Kuroko isn't among my top 3 sports anime. After a while, it becomes just vibes and just so predictable . Smth you'll watch just to chill (without giving much thought) Still love it tho
Not until Kuroko and Seirin got their as* kicked by Aomine in their 1st game... That sh*t was a brutal loss to them that even Kuroko cried and so devastated after taking the L
Kagami wows you while Sakuragi inspires you. Whether they win or lose in Kuroko I'm there to see the special powers. With slam dunk you experience the highest highs and the lowest lows with Shohoku. It's an entire emotional journey.
You did a great job of breaking down some of the key tonal differences in each show while being respectful to each intellectual property. Shoutout to you!
When Slam dunk was first shown on TV, it INFLUENCED a generation to play and love basketball, or try sports. In Ph, lot of kids in my time grew watching Slam Dunk and lot of them were influenced to take interest to such sport and some even became sport players themselves eventually. That’s how iconic Slam Dunk is.
I wasn't around when Slam Dunk first dropped and im not from the PH but i've seen that a lot of commenters are and have been heavily influenced by the series to take up basketball. Its truly amazing to see a series really capture an audience and inspire them so well.
@@bingeboisThe timing too. It was also during the peak of basketball craze in the Philippines. When our Local League, the Philippine Basketball Association was at its peak, and the NBA was popular again with Jordan's return. We've never seen a basketball anime before. Only Super Robots and Dragon Ball Z.
Good points for me as someone who is not a basketball fan/player: ● Kuroko no Basket = storyline, animation, visuals, creativity (for tropes and other elements like each player's powers), and more advanced basketball skills ● Slam Dunk = storyline, more sport-centered, educational, character development, humor, and connection to the viewer (probably more preferred even by non-anime viewers) Both are great and entertaining. But I like Slam Dunk better. Its memorability is engraved more to me.
I've had a bunch of comments and seen that same sentiment from other people from the Philippines. Its incredible that a series was able to do that and inspire so an entire nation!
Kuroko has many flaws such as the fan service, especially the girl's representation, and the lack of logic and realism, it's fun to imagine basketball players doing these things but some skills were too cliche, the plot is good but it could have become way better with more realism and more intensity. Slam dunk is a legend because it's simply a player's growth story. No Onsen episode, no maid cafe episode, no random beach episode, the show had no fillers, no fan servicing, just pure art
Well i mean the anime for Slam Dunk did have major pacing issues due to stretching out the source material, HOWEVER what is there is some of the best in anime and manga history. That's just a fact
In Kuroko, there are only like 3 women who are relevant to the plot... Momoi, Riko, and Alex... Momoi's representation is actually a really great GM and a tactician as she can analyze and study opposing teams game and play styles that's why she is technically part of the GoM honestly... The fanservice for her though is having bigger b**bs than Seirin's coach but to be honest, it is just quite a normal size, not overly big like other animes do... I mean, even despite not having Aomine in the 1st half against Seirin, the Too B Squad is actually beating Seirin quite easily because of Momoi's strategies and observations of their opposing teams play styles... She can make a great GM... Riko on the other hand, she is a great coach to be honest, although, I do think she is over reliant at times to Kuroko and Kagami but she does help them improve their skills as a player whenever they train, specially that beach training they did to improved everyones skills... Alex on the other hand, well, she didn't impact as much as the 2 women(Riko and Momoi) as she is known playing in WNBA and Kagami's sensei when he was in US
I stopped reading Kuroko's Basketball around volume 7, as I grew tired of how unrealistic it is. Whereas I have binging Slam Dunk. What volumes I can find, anyway. A lot of the early ones are tough to find nowadays.
Yeah, it really sucks that so many manga volumes are out of print due to COVID and other shit. Been trying to get my hands on the entire Slam Dunk series but some random volumes are nearly impossible to find
@@bingebois I did contact Viz Media directly asking if the original volumes have gone out of print, and if the new reprints will be released in the US. They simply said that due to supply issues, they can't keep Slam Dunk in stock and my best bet to find them is at my local comic shops.
You lasted long. I couldn't keep watching the anime after Season 2 and then said: Ok...let me read the manga. Might be better experience". Boy i was wrong. Stopped reading faster than i did watching the anime. As someone who played the sports on a professional level on Middle School,High School and College i just couldn't stop being mad at this series and how was a total insult to the sports. I don't mind when animes/manga goes with power fantasy trips making some bullshit situations, but maaaaaan Kuroko's Basketball just far and beyond level 100 of Prince of Tennis. I felt like the autor who probably really love basketball as much i do, was making fun of the sport i love the most and the one i dedicaded millions of hours. Basketball as a sports is the most beautiful,exciting and fresh thing you can watch. So creative,unique,special and always exciting that you don't need to put super powers or power trips on it because is already wonderful for what it is. I still can remember how exciting,hype and screaming out of my lungs i was. Even remembering it now i get my skin goosebumps. The moment on Slam Dunk when Rukawa just took off against Kainan and just turned into almost a one man army. He didn't need a power trip, he didn't need to shot 3's from the other basket, didn't do capoeira in the middle of the air or jump from the 3PT for a dunk. Was just pure a player hitting the zone.
@@RomnysGonzalez I agree. I loved playing basketball in my school days. I played a couple of seasons in youth league, and it was my favorite activity in gym class. We go to a few college basketball games a season, both mens and womens. As such, that's what turned me off Kuroko's. Making full-court shots every time, jumping super-high, and other supernatural abilities are the complete opposite of Slam Dunk's realism.
Slam dunk makes me so fuckin emotional and intense with each page durin a match.Thats why after all these years later Slam Dunk holds up,timeless masterpiece. Kuroko is entertaining just not on the same level
The biggest issue for me with the 93 Slam Dunk anime was pacing. 100+ episodes to not even cover the full 300 chapter manga was way too much. Hopefully if the movie is popular enough we will get that remake.
I love Slam dunk more than Kuroko! Because character from Slam dunk is better than character from Kuroko no basuke and Kuroko no basuke not for kids under 14(i think) cause kuroko no basuke have Naked(bath) scenes..and it's not for kids.. (Sorry if my english is bad) And i'm 11 years old
Yeah I wouldn't recommend KNB to my young nephews when they want to play actual basketball. Slam Dunk, if I remember correctly, taught audience the basics of basketball because of Sakuragi's journey. Tried watching KNB then Slam Dunk then KNB again, and my god, I thought KNB was super cringey with their power moves. I just wish I didn't rewatch Slam Dunk because I was entertained with KNB specially with Aomine.
Slam Dunk is for sure more of a love letter to the actual game of basketball, while KNB is more about showing the flashiness of it. If you wanted someone to find a love of the game or just understand basketball better, Slam Dunk is the way to go
Ive been playing basketball for 10 years Slam dunk and Kuroko No basket isn't even comparable to me. The way slam dunk shows progression of Sakuragi as a player, as-well as a person is spot on and some of the best writing i've seen in any media, i cant tell you how many times ive read all 276 chapters of it. (dont watch the anime read the manga) Kuroko No Basket is painful for me to watch, its painfully unrealistic and to me theres nothing relating to progression as a player, its just they have a perfected skill, watch them dominate and it's boring.
I disagree, while they may not be improving their skill in Kuroko's, they are changing the way they play. Aomine begins to trust his team, and the others realize that sacrificing the love of the game for winning makes you lose yourself. Its more akin to how some kids in AAU basketball feel with all the pressure adults put on them to succeed.
@@bingebois I understand where you're coming from, where they don't progress as a person but as player (hopefully i understood it right), but they seem to slam it in your face instead of letting the viewer see how he's changed as a player and him slowly trusting his teammates around him more and more. Slam dunk is able to show things like subtle character progression like how in the very beginning of the manga Sakuragi thinks he's the best player to ever exist and through the whole story he realises more and more how bad he is compared to other people who've worked much harder then him, through out the entire story. Aomine just suddenly changes and when he starts trusting his teammates it feels random, or at least it was for me. This could be the result of just the length of the stories, the length of the stories aren't really comparable, and if they were the same length i'm not sure if this would be a difference, but it is what it is.
That's the point. There was no reason for them to progress at the start. Then some NBA players came to their country and played with them. Now they realized there's still room for formidable opponents. In the end of the series, they're most likely joining the NBA. But this show is more about developing as a person. The basketball logic is just bullshit for the enjoyment the non-basketball fans who likes Dragon Ball and shit
I loved slamdunk.. as a young kid then, i had the same motivations as sakuragi, and saw basketball as a means to an end i desired.. however, as i continued devoting countless hours to the game, i grew to love basketball for what it was.. I was about to be a varsity player for my high school, and would be given a scholarship on my junior year.. sadly, one injury took it away from me.. to make matters worse, the money i wouldve gotten for the scholarship was cancelled, and my parents had to loan for me to receive medication.. and so i decided to quit the game. years later, ive grown to hate basketball.. not even watching a game, or not even thinking/talking about it. ive grown sour as a person too.. the injury not only took basketball away from me, but it took my entire "self" ..it was then i decided to just go to college, and pursue my academics. during my first few years at the university, my closest friend then asked me if i could join their minor league (not the official varsity team, of the school itself, we only represented our department/major).. i declined for obvious reasons, not explaining why.. but during our senior year, i decided to try for one last time.. it was four years before i finally collected the guts to try basketball again... my friend was already the captain then.. fast forward, we were at the finals of the said league, and somehow lost by just one shot, against the previous year's champs.. first runner up wasnt so bad after all. the same thing happened when we found ourselves playing against some of the players of the official varsity team of our university (who also happened to be playing for the national championship that year).. a lot of their key players werent playing, and the best player of the squad was the MVP of another minor league.. it was a non-serious, charity game.. but we managed to keep up with them, having lost to only a point. Their team won the national collegiate championship that year. i will forever be thankful for that moment. competing against some of the best players of my college years.. and this gave me a closure to what basketball was for me as a person. i may not have achieved the highest goal i intended when i was starting my journey.. but it surely redeemed all the pain the injury caused me. In the end, i understood how much i loved basketball.
First i watched "Kuroko basketball" and I like it, but then I found out there's one anime about basketball "Slam dunk" and i will never regret it 🤩I was so amazed! "Slam dunk" is the best sport anime of all time!
I guess I don't agree with you, I prefer Kuroko no Basket more he's better in every way😎😎😏😏, and if you don't like my opinion, bang your head against the wall Salam Dunk said haha👎👎
Slam dunk is better. You follow akagis dream to be national champions, you follow mitsui who loves basketball to hating it, and it allows you develop a mind where you enjoy it like sakuragi. Sakuragi transformed form with hair cut is op. What about the slam dunk scene where he does the dunk and number 10 shows on his back. In slam dunk everyone develops. Hanamachi is legendary. Also kagami is more similar to rukawa. ryota miyagi is such an op point guard also. In kuroko no one really develops that level
Rukawa is much too skilled of a player to be compared to Kagami. He can shoot. dribble, and pass at an elite level. He is a all around superstar, while Kagami and Sakuragi are both classic power forwards that excel at inside scoring, defense, and rebounding
Kagami is the ace of their team. Rukawa is also the ace. Sakuragi was a noob with natural talent most of the series. If kagami wasn't good from the start they could be compared. Also rukawa could catch rebounds he was an all round player
Also Rukawa like kagami tends to be a more its all me player. You even see kagami in the first season try to do everything himself in one match, and then kuroko slaps him for lack of team work. Also both rukawa and kagami have the aggressive /none friendly or lack of social skills personality.
Omg. Its like comparing boys to men. 😂 Kuroko take inspiration from Slamdunk. So Slamdunk is like the father and you cant compare father to son. 😂 What i love about slamdunk is youre learning together with the main character. I'm not into basketball before but slamdunk makes me watch NBA and turn me into a fangirl😂. And look at those beautiful drawings of Takehiko Inoue. Look at the character design of team sannoh, they have the same hairstyle but you can distinguished them because of the uniqueness of their faces. I love his artstyle. And another thing i like about the story is Hanamichi's character development. He joined the basketball team to impress his crush but eventually fall in love with the sport to the point of sacrificing his life to win in the court. From king of foul to the king of rebound... I dont hope for another season or another volume of the manga. I wish for reboot/remake of the anime because its great as it is.😢
If Slam dunk characters are in the Kuroko no basket Verse then no doubt Shohoku would be the number 1 team and obviously Rukawa would have attained Zone....
When i made the comment about dropping either into the universe i meant more of as they were, because if they are changed to adapt to that universe power system then it'd be totally different, and Rukawa would probably be on par with the generation of miracles if you compare his skill level in his universe versus their level in the Kuroko universe
Slam Dunk vs Kuroko? seriously??? Slam Dunk is on a different level from other sport anime, Comparing Slam Dunk and Kuroko is like comparing Messi and Rooney, while both are good but at a different level
they aren't being compared based on quality but rather being built upon similar foundations like being about basketball, having forwards as main characters, etc. I talk about it in the video. if you don't hold Kuroko to a high regard that's fine but as stated multiple times its not about comparing quality but rather approaches
Kuroko basketball is just the best in my opinion just because of how fun it is I literally want it to be unrealistic I like seeing crAzy speed never missing shots and whatever it is what it is it’s just like that
I watched both and obviously Slam Dunk is better. Not even a conversation. But I liked a lot Kuroko too. If you take too much care about the basketball part being realistic, you will never like Kuroko. The really good part about Kuroko is everything outside the basketball court. (even if personally I liked the matches too, even if unrealistic). Also Captain Tsubasa was a sort of Kuroko ante-litteram. But who cares about the super shots.
Kuroko's did some really good character building despite being a power fantasy, it really made me feel for each of the generation of miracles. Glad that you enjoyed both series and see what they have to offer to someone
Well I think this two series are good since I watched them both but for me I like Slam Dunk than KnB not only because its realistic but also because it motivates you to play and practice more your skills in basketball like me.. The anime of slam dunk even though the animation is bad since its old but I still like it so.. I think lets wait for the movie of slam dunk next year.. BTW we have different taste of anime so just respect other's opinions .. XD.. Nice content , you earned another subscriber here
Slam Dunk is revolutionary in Japan because it made japanese people to play basketball when the sport itself is not that popular on that time. Anyone who read Slam Dunk in the past made them to sympathize with Sakuragi who's on his journey to be a basketball player because they are learning too while reading. When japanese people think basketball is just some throwing balls and a lame sport, the manga made the sport look cool.
Great content! I never understood the appeal of Kuroko. I guess because I saw the masterpiece called Slam Dunk before :) Just by the art, I know which one I'll choose.
The art in Slam Dunk and most of Inoue's work is so superb, its almost unfair to compare other manga art too it! Kuroko's is more of a fun spectacle, so if you were looking for something with incredible writing like Slam Dunk has, it might just not be up your alley
I do recommend both the series because they are quite good and worth the watch. Slam Dunk might be better to read the manga instead of the anime because the anime didn't adapt the last arc, but they are both worth your time! 👍
I'm very familiar with basketball and don't think its cringe. Obviously its unrealistic nut if this cringe some other things must be panic attack inducing for you.
I'm on manga and anime almost 40 years now...Slam dunk still the best sports manga...second goes to Hajime no ippo..,Slam dunk is full package what great sports manga/anime should be..good storyline,funny,good character development(almost all character in this comics have good development) and the art by Inoue-sensei still my fav.
Those are two of my favorite sports manga Ashwell! Ippo used to be top 2 but after I read Ashito No Joe my new top two are Slam Dunk and Joe. The art in Slam Dunk is so good and I still consider the high five between Sakuragi and Rukawa one of the best manga panels of all time
The only thing that threw me off in Kuroko were the BS powers (although pretty entertaining) and no sense of the basketball rules and way of play. I don’t remember from the back of my mind who was the team that was beating Kuroko’s team but they were ahead on the game with few seconds left in the last quarter and instead of running the clock out decided to shoot without looking for a foul and then kuroko’s team scores. That was so freaking bs especially when the generation of miracles winning is everything that was stupid of them
Yeah, I genuinely feel that actual basketball games themselves are the weakest aspect of the show for me. Its a dope spectacle to watch and have fun but story wise and logically it don't make no sense. The characters and the writing for their motivations tho is really good
Some say it's a matter of preference. If you are accustomed to modern animes (meaning you are part of the younger generation), you will connect and enjoy KnB a lot more. But if you are part of the generation that grew up with the classics, SD will be immortalized as the greatest sports anime/manga. SD has grounded and realistic hand drawn art (manga), rough masculine men that was popular back in the 80s and 90s, simple, linear story, classic shonen progression and most of all, it will leave an impression on you for a very long time. KnB has shiny and modern animation with a lot of effects, lanky and pretty boy design that is popular nowadays, story that caters to younger audience, modern storytelling. Whilst, I like modern animes with beautiful animation like kimetsu no yaiba, jujutsu and CSM, KnB just didnt click with me. I do not find any characters likeable or relatable. The power system is also such a big turn off for me. The character designs that look like it came out of shoujo manga did not help too. Lastly, basketball with dragon ball-esque effect was the last stray for me to dislike the series.
That's interesting because I feel like the characters of KnB are actually the biggest reason why it has garnered a fanbase. They really do have some layers to a few of them, mainly being Aomine, Kise, & Kuroko. If you didn't feel I'm not gonna try and tell you you are wrong because that's your opinion. Slam Dunk brings the characters to the forefront and uses basketball as a catalyst for their growth so it will always have stronger characters than KnB which focuses so much on the spectacle.
Great analysis video. Albeit KnB is good, when you compare it to Slam Dunk it becomes mediocre at best. That’s how great of work Slam Dunk is. Shoutout to Takehiko Inoue for being such a great mangaka. For anyone reading this comment, also check out “Real” and “Vagabond” from the same author of Slam Dunk, Takehiko Inoue.
To be fair, I did put "VS" in the title so some will just see that and think I'm declaring a winner or better show/manga, but it was really appreciating both and how they tackle the subject of basketball and growth. Glad you were able to watch and enjoy it, and trust me the amount of views this video has right now are more than I ever thought it would have, I'm just happy people like you and everyone else have seen it and hopefully enjoyed it!
i will agree this time sakuragi will lose only because of sakuragi small experience unlike kagami who played years. but if sakuragi will play for years kagami will lose. its about experience bout this fight
if anybody gonna watch both it's better to watch Slam Dunk first then KNB, the hype is just different, also Slam Dunk is more realistic so it's better to watch it first cz KNB is unrealistic in many ways
Great video I personally like slam dunk it doesn't have the best animation but that's abvious coming from a 90's anime but everything else is amazing and the manga is so good
I think a Slam Dunk anime with modern animation and better pacing, would be sooooo popular now. The manga however, is absolutely timeless and drawn to perfection. I think its the best way to consume the series.
Tried watching Kuroko but I just can't get around the absurdity of their powers. They all seem alien and using it to play sports just seems cheating really. As a basketball player and fan, the journey is far more important than the outcome. You see NBA teams win championship, but the process to get there is what really inspires. Slam Dunk is all that. They are not a powerhouse team, Sakuragi doesn't even know how to play, but the journey they took as a team is what separates them from others. And as a viewer, you see their growth and really a part of it. Slam Dunk literally made popular the sports anime genre all around the world. Until now, even with a short run as an anime. Slam Dunk still remembered and celebrated.
I read the Slam Dunk Manga and watched the Kuroko's anime, i think that the anime enhanced KnB with the animation so I'd definitely check it out at some point.
I actually think it would be kinda reversed. Recently we have been seeing more emotionally impactful sports anime get popular like Haikyuu or Run With The Wind rather than superpowered stuff, and i feel like Kuroko's would fit right in with the 90's fantasy power shonen's. Its just preferential. Old dudes might wanna see cool powers and young people want an emotional story. It depends on the person
Great content here man! I personally loved Kuroko’s, but haven’t checked out slam dunk. I’m a big basketball fan so I’ll need to see a more realistic view of basketball anime. The abilities players have in Kuroko’s is more NBA2K-like than real basketball, but they made it super entertaining. Great work here! And great editing too! I know a lot of work goes into these videos
You should check that out. Unlike KNB where the protagonist is already a caliber player...in slam dunk. The protagonist started from zero knowledge about basket ball.. you know, like a zero-to-hero kind of story
watched slam dunk anime and manga multiple times, watched a few episodes of Kuroko, could not finish it. The characters in Kuroko are not relatable, the game they play does not feel like basketball
As someone who plays consistently, Kuroko definitely can get away from being achievable basketball that feels ridiculous, but I do feel like it has a pretty good commentary on star based Basketball and the pitfalls of it, especially seeing a team with the weakest star of the series being the one who ends up performing so well and winning a championship through teamwork. You just have to dig a little deeper since the show kind of hides it.
I absolutely love this video, and Slam Dunk. I get caught up in the thrill of KNB, and I love how flashy the players pull of their plays and shots, but Slam Dunk just pulls my heart strings. I don’t think I’ve ever been so emotionally attached to a animation/manga. I absolutely love Slam Dunk, it deserves so much more than it is now. There is also a cool mobile game of Slam Dunk, it is slightly pay to win, but if you are interested, I suggest you try it.
I have heard about the Slam Dunk mobile game, but I haven't tried it yet! Might have to. I wonder if they'll do a big event on the game when the movie comes out?
comparing that situation to the Cavs and Warriors trilogy is a little different, since in the first matchup with the warriors, the cavs had Kevin Love and Kyrie injured but were fully healthy the next year. Add in the Draymond Green suspension in Game 6 and it gets a little dicey to compare them 1:1
There's one thing that i hate about kuroko is, the miracle 5 (plus 😊kagami) is so good they become even better NBA players..... 1. you never see steph curry CONSTANTLY shooting from middle court while CONTESTED. 2. there's not a single player in NBA can shoot like aoyama and CONSTANTLY GETTING IN. 3. 6'3 that can dunk from free throw lane loke MJ?? Gtfo 4. Not even Allen iverson can ankle breaks any player in every match.... but this guy can constantly ankle break anyone and not only one player, he can anklr break multiple players lmao. 4. A player that can copy moves? Gtfo. The author didn't know the limitations of highschool players, and sometimes it start become insulting to some NBA fans
Yeah, if you watch basketball you just know that what is going on is is ridiculously exaggerated. It isn't supposed to be an accurate representation of high school basketball in Japan, because if it was NOBODY would be dunking and you'd see guys shooting like 30-35% from the field lol. Its just a fun way to show basketball on a superhero level while including some solid character writing.
The thing about Kurokos basketball which a lot of people dont realise is that its not meant to be realistic , haikyuu being a great example of a more realistic sports anime from recent times , whereas in the first episode we are presented with an mc who's premise is that he is virtually 'invisible' using slight of hand and essentially magic tricks to divert the attention elsewhere and other characters literally not noticing him stood right beside them and while this is very plausible as are most of the characters skills and moves up until around when aomine gets introduced , from the start it was never made to be a realistic high school sport animate idea of these characters having 'superpower' esk skill sets is what makes the anime different and good imo , i would argue that it would be worse without them. Like there aren't many ways to make 5 prodigies really stand out and look terrifying with a high school level skill set and keep it grounded in reality , like sure you could say they were the best of the best in their year of the whole country but they would just be regular ordinary people that are simply just better for one reason or another and it wouldnt be any different from watching a real life high school basketball team play , just in fiction. Having these superhuman like characters that are seemingly impossible to beat is what makes the anime good and have stakes.
I mean all of them are getting buckets but nothing they are doing couldn't be done in a high level American high school. The real issue is they are Japanese and Japan is not known for basketball players of their calibers like the kids in Slam Dunk
I don't have know Slam Dunk from both at the first. But with the time I had noticed I like it more cause it looks more real as the other. I had a Korukos Basket Calender and I have since 2 Years a Slam Dunk Poster at one Wall
I want to watch SlamDunk.... But in my country, Philippines, they often made a meme about it, that its riddled with flashbacks For anyone who watched the anime, is this true?
I definetly don't think it is ass, especially when you start comparing to shows that are actual garbage tier, but the overdramatic stuff and unrealistic abilities can turn people off.
I think the thing that turned me off of KnB is how if feels like it is half-assing things in a way that's really bad. It's trying to be quite realistic while having the zone which just doesn't work for me. Either you be fully realistic like Slam Dunk, or you go full over-the-top with the super powers like Inazuma Eleven (both shows I really enjoy). The other thing to the half-assedness is how you don't really feel the passion in KnB compared to Slam Dunk. KnB's basketball doesn't have its heart in it and that frustrates me because I can feel the lack of it.
@@bingebois Oh, the series is very popular. It's a Level-5 property that's a game and anime series. The super powered soccer Inazuma Eleven had is essentially Shaolin Soccer levels if you're familiar with that movie.
Just know Kuroko's sports anime is like a fantasy anime where everything has a isekai feeling whereas Slam Dunk is more relevant to past era basketball context, from a realistic point of view literally from the author's view as a basketball advocate himself
Yes, that is why the video is titled Realism vs Power Fantasy. I am also a basketball fan so I'm familiar with the inspirations for some of Inoue's ideas
I love both IMO I've seen so many people hate on kuroko for being unrealistic but it's anime it's supposed to be unrealistic it's more entertaining that way.
Hating on a series because its unrealistic is just a silly way to discredit it. While it is unrealistic, Kuroko's is super fun to watch and is more of a spectacle. People can enjoy whichever show they prefer more but saying it sucks because its unrealistic is dumb.
A lot of people came out in support of Kuroko but most of them just came to tell me I sucked on the Kuroko portion 😂 Im glad you expressed your opinion!
I think you should also note that Slam Dunk played a pivotal role as an anime/manga for a whole generation. I grew up watching it, and considering that I was a nerdy girl with no athletic ability and with generally no interest in sports, that Slam Dunk managed to capture my interest shows that it's a show that goes beyond just a simple sports anime. It's the relatable characters that's key, the slow development of each character, the way they interact, confront and overcome their struggles, and the way each character still manages to stand out. Not to mention that in relating to the characters, it brings the readers into a love for basketball. To this day, I still don't play or follow sports... except basketball.
Its undeniable the way that Slam Dunk has effected the entirety of anime and manga, alongside basketball in a lot of countries, it is one of the best and most iconic series of all time for reason. its cool to hear how many people picked up the game because of the series.
I was a similar girl as you, just an unathletic artistic kid, but it was because of a miniscule amount of exposure to Slam Dunk that I even held a basketball in my hands and tried to shoot baskets in school. While KuroBasu is great, Slam Dunk is powerful in captivating and inspiring its readers/viewers.
Personally I don't think the anime is bad but suffers from the problem that most 90s anime suffer from, which is poor pacing. Slam Dunk reaaaallly stretches fro something that could have easily been 5 or 6 12 or 24 episode seasons for the FULL MANGA ADAPTATION. But I see where you are coming from
And wrhen watching slamdunk i already learn basketball like 2 weeks i already know how to basic driball while watching kuroko no basket all they do is imposibbke dunk like wtf but i like the anime
Because of slam dunk I now play basket ball and I love it!! My fav player is Kiminobu Kogure, he’s has the kindest personality in the show😊. If you guys did not watched or read slam dunk go try it it’s awesome❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤.
Knb actually got me to play basketball, I see alot of people saying they wouldn't recommend it, but surely people can tell whats real and what isnt, it's anime for crying out loud. It's a very fun show with endearing characters, and great action
KnB is a show I definitely would recommend to most people since its a fun show, and I truly think the generation of miracles and the relationships they share with each other are excellent. The spectacle of some of the techniques in the show alone is worth watching, like the double jumpshot lol. Most of these comments are praising Slam Dunk at the expense of Kuroko's but i still believe both shows have their own merits. Appreciate you for letting everyone know Kuroko's isn't trash as they want to think 😂
Mas maganda ang slam dunk for me, though fan din ako mg kuroko no basuke. No one can top slam dunk when it comes to basketball anime and nostalgia. Nakakatawa talaga ang slam dunk genuinely at may sense of appeal.
As a ball player Kuroko is an exaggeration of players special traits or abilities (ball handling, shooting, speed, hops etc.) when players grow into their own n develop new skills on top of there mastered one ex. A windmill layup from the right to the left a simple “double clutch could b done but cuz it’s mastered u add some jelly to it” what I like bout kuroko is it shows that now shits definitely in an extreme way like midorima shootin full courts n aomine drawin a foul throwin it behind his back. But it’s the expression of the moveset showing how skilled players develop their skill to a point where it seems like they got “powers” or “abilities”
I watched SD as a kid and multiple times in teenage years. But it hits different when I understand what a well writen story is after working as a marketer. It's impressive that the show aired almost 30 years ago and the structure is so well-built
Both animes are amazing, but as a person experienced in playing basketball and faced through the ups and downs of playing sports, SLAM DUNK is the more relatable and grounded between the two hence if you are looking for a true SPORTS story, SLAM DUNK is the way to go. And read the manga, my goodness is it really good and the art by Inoue Takehiko is amazing. Inoue is basically among the Mt. Rushmores of Mangakas. But not taking anyway from Kuroko, the charm for this show is how creative they are in tackling super power concepts in terms of basketball. Kurokos misdirection, each of the Generation of Miracles unique powers, and the concept of perfect zone. Kuroko No Basket would suit those that are into the Action Animes.
Slam Dunk is definitely the anime I recommend to basketball fans over Kuroko's, just because it is a relatable journey for anyone who has played basketball in their own life. Personally, i read the manga for Slam Dunk, and it makes me sad that they never animated the final tournament, but with the new movie supposed to cover that I'm excited! Kuroko's can also be fun for basketball fans but it is more in a way that it is so crazy that it's just awesome to see as a spectacle. Also, I think the characters were actually written pretty well in Kuroko, even though you wouldn't assume that looking from outward in.
@@bingebois Yup, really looking forward to the movie. Though I wish it was an anime season instead so that they could have more time to flush out the characters especially from the opposing teams like Toyotama and Sannoh. But we'll just have to wait and see for now.
Man I love slam dunk, and I’m sorry I couldn’t bare watching kuroko no basket, it just felt way too shonen for my liking, I understand why some people like it but for me nothing can beat slam dunk when it come to being realistic but fun at the same time, some anime’s try to be realistic but by doing that they take the fun away but slam dunk did it perfectly.
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imo. slam dunk is a better show because it shows you that "mamba mentality" state you need to get to become good at what you're trying to achieve. in the other hand kuroko's basketball is made to make you love basketball at first. so i recommend watch koruko's basketball at first if ur a complete novice to this sport and then slam dunk.
The slam dunk manga made me love the sport of basketball. You get to learn the sport while Sakuragi is learning and it’s such an immersive experience. The art really just jumps out at you too so it’s such a fun reading experience
The art is so good and really makes those epic moments feel even better. Great Manga
True
Exactly why Kuroko isn't among my top 3 sports anime.
After a while, it becomes just vibes and just so predictable . Smth you'll watch just to chill (without giving much thought)
Still love it tho
Me too❤
Me watching Kuroko's Basketball: Cheering because of the hype and epic action.
Me watching Slam Dunk: Sit down calmly, grip my chest, try not to cry.
that very accurately and simply explains the difference!
People say this alot, but honestly there are times when I've had both reactions to Kuroko.
Not until Kuroko and Seirin got their as* kicked by Aomine in their 1st game... That sh*t was a brutal loss to them that even Kuroko cried and so devastated after taking the L
The inspiration for Aomine was Kobe Bryant. He BETTER destroy our protag. Team at least once!
Kagami wows you while Sakuragi inspires you.
Whether they win or lose in Kuroko I'm there to see the special powers. With slam dunk you experience the highest highs and the lowest lows with Shohoku. It's an entire emotional journey.
You did a great job of breaking down some of the key tonal differences in each show while being respectful to each intellectual property. Shoutout to you!
When Slam dunk was first shown on TV, it INFLUENCED a generation to play and love basketball, or try sports. In Ph, lot of kids in my time grew watching Slam Dunk and lot of them were influenced to take interest to such sport and some even became sport players themselves eventually. That’s how iconic Slam Dunk is.
I wasn't around when Slam Dunk first dropped and im not from the PH but i've seen that a lot of commenters are and have been heavily influenced by the series to take up basketball. Its truly amazing to see a series really capture an audience and inspire them so well.
@@bingeboisThe timing too. It was also during the peak of basketball craze in the Philippines. When our Local League, the Philippine Basketball Association was at its peak, and the NBA was popular again with Jordan's return.
We've never seen a basketball anime before. Only Super Robots and Dragon Ball Z.
Good points for me as someone who is not a basketball fan/player:
● Kuroko no Basket = storyline, animation, visuals, creativity (for tropes and other elements like each player's powers), and more advanced basketball skills
● Slam Dunk = storyline, more sport-centered, educational, character development, humor, and connection to the viewer (probably more preferred even by non-anime viewers)
Both are great and entertaining. But I like Slam Dunk better. Its memorability is engraved more to me.
That's a great, yet simple way to sum up the differences and similarities between the shows!
Will they explain the rules in slam dunk ?
@@nero3948 yes
I like both animes but Slam Dunk is more motivational and yet emotional for me
Slamdunk hits deeper that Kuroko No Basket for me, though Kuroko No Basket is way cooler of an anime
Slamdunk is way better. I have reread the manga many times and still giving me goosebumbs. That last game in the nationals is worth rereading
The final game in the nationals and the high five between Rukawa and Sakuragi are definitely in my top 10 anime/manga moments of all time
One of the reason why Basketball is so famous in the Philippines, is because of SLAMDUNK
I've had a bunch of comments and seen that same sentiment from other people from the Philippines. Its incredible that a series was able to do that and inspire so an entire nation!
The Philippines was already a basketball-crazy country. Slam Dunk made it even more so
Slam Dunk is like the Berserk of Basketball manga. Kuroko is like Naruto of basketball manga.
That is an analogy.
Kuroko has many flaws such as the fan service, especially the girl's representation, and the lack of logic and realism, it's fun to imagine basketball players doing these things but some skills were too cliche, the plot is good but it could have become way better with more realism and more intensity.
Slam dunk is a legend because it's simply a player's growth story.
No Onsen episode, no maid cafe episode, no random beach episode, the show had no fillers, no fan servicing, just pure art
Well i mean the anime for Slam Dunk did have major pacing issues due to stretching out the source material, HOWEVER what is there is some of the best in anime and manga history. That's just a fact
In Kuroko, there are only like 3 women who are relevant to the plot... Momoi, Riko, and Alex... Momoi's representation is actually a really great GM and a tactician as she can analyze and study opposing teams game and play styles that's why she is technically part of the GoM honestly... The fanservice for her though is having bigger b**bs than Seirin's coach but to be honest, it is just quite a normal size, not overly big like other animes do... I mean, even despite not having Aomine in the 1st half against Seirin, the Too B Squad is actually beating Seirin quite easily because of Momoi's strategies and observations of their opposing teams play styles... She can make a great GM... Riko on the other hand, she is a great coach to be honest, although, I do think she is over reliant at times to Kuroko and Kagami but she does help them improve their skills as a player whenever they train, specially that beach training they did to improved everyones skills... Alex on the other hand, well, she didn't impact as much as the 2 women(Riko and Momoi) as she is known playing in WNBA and Kagami's sensei when he was in US
The Manga is the only thing that matters! The pace of the anime is not the creator's fault
I stopped reading Kuroko's Basketball around volume 7, as I grew tired of how unrealistic it is. Whereas I have binging Slam Dunk. What volumes I can find, anyway. A lot of the early ones are tough to find nowadays.
Yeah, it really sucks that so many manga volumes are out of print due to COVID and other shit. Been trying to get my hands on the entire Slam Dunk series but some random volumes are nearly impossible to find
@@bingebois I did contact Viz Media directly asking if the original volumes have gone out of print, and if the new reprints will be released in the US. They simply said that due to supply issues, they can't keep Slam Dunk in stock and my best bet to find them is at my local comic shops.
You lasted long. I couldn't keep watching the anime after Season 2 and then said: Ok...let me read the manga. Might be better experience". Boy i was wrong. Stopped reading faster than i did watching the anime.
As someone who played the sports on a professional level on Middle School,High School and College i just couldn't stop being mad at this series and how was a total insult to the sports. I don't mind when animes/manga goes with power fantasy trips making some bullshit situations, but maaaaaan Kuroko's Basketball just far and beyond level 100 of Prince of Tennis.
I felt like the autor who probably really love basketball as much i do, was making fun of the sport i love the most and the one i dedicaded millions of hours. Basketball as a sports is the most beautiful,exciting and fresh thing you can watch. So creative,unique,special and always exciting that you don't need to put super powers or power trips on it because is already wonderful for what it is.
I still can remember how exciting,hype and screaming out of my lungs i was. Even remembering it now i get my skin goosebumps. The moment on Slam Dunk when Rukawa just took off against Kainan and just turned into almost a one man army. He didn't need a power trip, he didn't need to shot 3's from the other basket, didn't do capoeira in the middle of the air or jump from the 3PT for a dunk. Was just pure a player hitting the zone.
@@RomnysGonzalez I agree. I loved playing basketball in my school days. I played a couple of seasons in youth league, and it was my favorite activity in gym class. We go to a few college basketball games a season, both mens and womens. As such, that's what turned me off Kuroko's. Making full-court shots every time, jumping super-high, and other supernatural abilities are the complete opposite of Slam Dunk's realism.
@@RomnysGonzalez trash ass kuroko no basketcase
Slam dunk makes me so fuckin emotional and intense with each page durin a match.Thats why after all these years later Slam Dunk holds up,timeless masterpiece. Kuroko is entertaining just not on the same level
The panel of Sakuragi and Rukawa high fiving is a top 5 manga panel for me! Straight chills and smiles when i see it
Who needs a reboot of whole 1993 slam dunk anime with modern animation (apart from the movie that's coming out this year)
The biggest issue for me with the 93 Slam Dunk anime was pacing. 100+ episodes to not even cover the full 300 chapter manga was way too much. Hopefully if the movie is popular enough we will get that remake.
I love Slam dunk more than Kuroko!
Because character from Slam dunk is better than character from Kuroko no basuke and Kuroko no basuke not for kids under 14(i think) cause kuroko no basuke have Naked(bath) scenes..and it's not for kids..
(Sorry if my english is bad)
And i'm 11 years old
Its all good dude! Hope you enjoyed the video and thanks for your comment
@@bingebois You welcome
Both good but for me slamdunk did it better i already watched it both
Slam Dunk is def excellent
Yeah I wouldn't recommend KNB to my young nephews when they want to play actual basketball.
Slam Dunk, if I remember correctly, taught audience the basics of basketball because of Sakuragi's journey.
Tried watching KNB then Slam Dunk then KNB again, and my god, I thought KNB was super cringey with their power moves. I just wish I didn't rewatch Slam Dunk because I was entertained with KNB specially with Aomine.
Slam Dunk is for sure more of a love letter to the actual game of basketball, while KNB is more about showing the flashiness of it. If you wanted someone to find a love of the game or just understand basketball better, Slam Dunk is the way to go
@@bingebois this is the best summary I've seen of it, wanna show basketball is cool? Kuroko. Want to love basketball? Slam dunk
If I want to read superpower basketball I will watch buzzer beater.
Slam dunk > Kurokos basketball
ok
Ive been playing basketball for 10 years
Slam dunk and Kuroko No basket isn't even comparable to me.
The way slam dunk shows progression of Sakuragi as a player, as-well as a person is spot on and some of the best writing i've seen in any media, i cant tell you how many times ive read all 276 chapters of it. (dont watch the anime read the manga)
Kuroko No Basket is painful for me to watch, its painfully unrealistic and to me theres nothing relating to progression as a player, its just they have a perfected skill, watch them dominate and it's boring.
I disagree, while they may not be improving their skill in Kuroko's, they are changing the way they play. Aomine begins to trust his team, and the others realize that sacrificing the love of the game for winning makes you lose yourself. Its more akin to how some kids in AAU basketball feel with all the pressure adults put on them to succeed.
@@bingebois I understand where you're coming from, where they don't progress as a person but as player (hopefully i understood it right), but they seem to slam it in your face instead of letting the viewer see how he's changed as a player and him slowly trusting his teammates around him more and more. Slam dunk is able to show things like subtle character progression like how in the very beginning of the manga Sakuragi thinks he's the best player to ever exist and through the whole story he realises more and more how bad he is compared to other people who've worked much harder then him, through out the entire story. Aomine just suddenly changes and when he starts trusting his teammates it feels random, or at least it was for me. This could be the result of just the length of the stories, the length of the stories aren't really comparable, and if they were the same length i'm not sure if this would be a difference, but it is what it is.
lol, agree with read the manga don't watch anime for Slam Dunk
Slam Dunk is simply a masterpiece. The story, the pacing, the art itself, it's incomparable to anything else
That's the point. There was no reason for them to progress at the start. Then some NBA players came to their country and played with them. Now they realized there's still room for formidable opponents. In the end of the series, they're most likely joining the NBA.
But this show is more about developing as a person. The basketball logic is just bullshit for the enjoyment the non-basketball fans who likes Dragon Ball and shit
Both of the main characters t shirt numbers are 10
Even more reason to show they are similar.
I loved slamdunk.. as a young kid then, i had the same motivations as sakuragi, and saw basketball as a means to an end i desired.. however, as i continued devoting countless hours to the game, i grew to love basketball for what it was.. I was about to be a varsity player for my high school, and would be given a scholarship on my junior year.. sadly, one injury took it away from me.. to make matters worse, the money i wouldve gotten for the scholarship was cancelled, and my parents had to loan for me to receive medication.. and so i decided to quit the game.
years later, ive grown to hate basketball.. not even watching a game, or not even thinking/talking about it. ive grown sour as a person too.. the injury not only took basketball away from me, but it took my entire "self" ..it was then i decided to just go to college, and pursue my academics.
during my first few years at the university, my closest friend then asked me if i could join their minor league (not the official varsity team, of the school itself, we only represented our department/major).. i declined for obvious reasons, not explaining why.. but during our senior year, i decided to try for one last time.. it was four years before i finally collected the guts to try basketball again... my friend was already the captain then.. fast forward, we were at the finals of the said league, and somehow lost by just one shot, against the previous year's champs.. first runner up wasnt so bad after all.
the same thing happened when we found ourselves playing against some of the players of the official varsity team of our university (who also happened to be playing for the national championship that year).. a lot of their key players werent playing, and the best player of the squad was the MVP of another minor league.. it was a non-serious, charity game.. but we managed to keep up with them, having lost to only a point. Their team won the national collegiate championship that year.
i will forever be thankful for that moment. competing against some of the best players of my college years.. and this gave me a closure to what basketball was for me as a person. i may not have achieved the highest goal i intended when i was starting my journey.. but it surely redeemed all the pain the injury caused me. In the end, i understood how much i loved basketball.
damn bro, that's crazy
Youre like mitsui when he got an injury
@@madboy234_yt to a certain degree, it did have some similarities. thanks for the kind reminder :)
First i watched "Kuroko basketball" and I like it, but then I found out there's one anime about basketball "Slam dunk" and i will never regret it 🤩I was so amazed! "Slam dunk" is the best sport anime of all time!
Glad people are till finding Slam Dunk even now!
Please tell me you read the manga
@@orti1283 Yes, of course read the manga 🤩That was amazing!
I guess I don't agree with you, I prefer Kuroko no Basket more he's better in every way😎😎😏😏, and if you don't like my opinion, bang your head against the wall
Salam Dunk said haha👎👎
@@DeaaAbdullah-c1qmfs realising different opinion exist:
Comparing Sakuragi to Kuroko is like comparing A meteor to a pebble
I didn't compare him to Kuroko i compared him to Kagami 😃
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Not a fan of KnB not because of how unrealistic it was, but I just don't find the characters likeable.
Every one has their opinion and I respect you for willing vocalizing yours
Man I love Slam Dunk
It is the second best sports manga I've ever read, and one of the best completed manga in existence imo
Slam dunk is better. You follow akagis dream to be national champions, you follow mitsui who loves basketball to hating it, and it allows you develop a mind where you enjoy it like sakuragi. Sakuragi transformed form with hair cut is op. What about the slam dunk scene where he does the dunk and number 10 shows on his back. In slam dunk everyone develops. Hanamachi is legendary. Also kagami is more similar to rukawa. ryota miyagi is such an op point guard also. In kuroko no one really develops that level
Rukawa is much too skilled of a player to be compared to Kagami. He can shoot. dribble, and pass at an elite level. He is a all around superstar, while Kagami and Sakuragi are both classic power forwards that excel at inside scoring, defense, and rebounding
Kagami is the ace of their team. Rukawa is also the ace. Sakuragi was a noob with natural talent most of the series. If kagami wasn't good from the start they could be compared. Also rukawa could catch rebounds he was an all round player
Also Rukawa like kagami tends to be a more its all me player. You even see kagami in the first season try to do everything himself in one match, and then kuroko slaps him for lack of team work. Also both rukawa and kagami have the aggressive /none friendly or lack of social skills personality.
@@sakuragi5160 I honestly like slam dunk more because it was a part of my childhood
Omg. Its like comparing boys to men. 😂 Kuroko take inspiration from Slamdunk. So Slamdunk is like the father and you cant compare father to son. 😂 What i love about slamdunk is youre learning together with the main character. I'm not into basketball before but slamdunk makes me watch NBA and turn me into a fangirl😂. And look at those beautiful drawings of Takehiko Inoue. Look at the character design of team sannoh, they have the same hairstyle but you can distinguished them because of the uniqueness of their faces. I love his artstyle.
And another thing i like about the story is Hanamichi's character development. He joined the basketball team to impress his crush but eventually fall in love with the sport to the point of sacrificing his life to win in the court. From king of foul to the king of rebound... I dont hope for another season or another volume of the manga. I wish for reboot/remake of the anime because its great as it is.😢
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If Slam dunk characters are in the Kuroko no basket Verse then no doubt Shohoku would be the number 1 team and obviously Rukawa would have attained Zone....
When i made the comment about dropping either into the universe i meant more of as they were, because if they are changed to adapt to that universe power system then it'd be totally different, and Rukawa would probably be on par with the generation of miracles if you compare his skill level in his universe versus their level in the Kuroko universe
Slam Dunk vs Kuroko? seriously???
Slam Dunk is on a different level from other sport anime, Comparing Slam Dunk and Kuroko is like comparing Messi and Rooney, while both are good but at a different level
they aren't being compared based on quality but rather being built upon similar foundations like being about basketball, having forwards as main characters, etc. I talk about it in the video. if you don't hold Kuroko to a high regard that's fine but as stated multiple times its not about comparing quality but rather approaches
I prefer slam dunk more! I simply love it and it is my most fav anime along with one piece. I would give it a 10/10!
I'm also a very big One Piece fan! Great animes/mangas
Slam Dunk it's Masterpiece
Takehiko inoue have Hand from heaven & Jenius
Slam Dunk is absoluetly amazing
Kuroko basketball is just the best in my opinion just because of how fun it is I literally want it to be unrealistic I like seeing crAzy speed never missing shots and whatever it is what it is it’s just like that
Its definitely a taste thing. Kuroko's is just extremely fun and i understand why people would like it better for that reason
I love both anime but man slam dunk makes want to play with shohoku even just to cheer for them in the bench.
You feel like you are watching a documentary on the team at some points in the manga. Its pretty cool
I watched both and obviously Slam Dunk is better. Not even a conversation. But I liked a lot Kuroko too. If you take too much care about the basketball part being realistic, you will never like Kuroko. The really good part about Kuroko is everything outside the basketball court. (even if personally I liked the matches too, even if unrealistic). Also Captain Tsubasa was a sort of Kuroko ante-litteram. But who cares about the super shots.
Kuroko's did some really good character building despite being a power fantasy, it really made me feel for each of the generation of miracles. Glad that you enjoyed both series and see what they have to offer to someone
Well I think this two series are good since I watched them both but for me I like Slam Dunk than KnB not only because its realistic but also because it motivates you to play and practice more your skills in basketball like me.. The anime of slam dunk even though the animation is bad since its old but I still like it so.. I think lets wait for the movie of slam dunk next year.. BTW we have different taste of anime so just respect other's opinions .. XD.. Nice content , you earned another subscriber here
Well said. Everyone can have their opinions as long as you aren't toxic about it.
Slam Dunk is revolutionary in Japan because it made japanese people to play basketball when the sport itself is not that popular on that time. Anyone who read Slam Dunk in the past made them to sympathize with Sakuragi who's on his journey to be a basketball player because they are learning too while reading. When japanese people think basketball is just some throwing balls and a lame sport, the manga made the sport look cool.
Great content! I never understood the appeal of Kuroko. I guess because I saw the masterpiece called Slam Dunk before :) Just by the art, I know which one I'll choose.
The art in Slam Dunk and most of Inoue's work is so superb, its almost unfair to compare other manga art too it! Kuroko's is more of a fun spectacle, so if you were looking for something with incredible writing like Slam Dunk has, it might just not be up your alley
Idk I haven’t watched them both
But i really think slam dunk will be better
I do recommend both the series because they are quite good and worth the watch. Slam Dunk might be better to read the manga instead of the anime because the anime didn't adapt the last arc, but they are both worth your time! 👍
@@bingebois thank you, I will surely check it out!
Yup slam dunk is better in my opinion.
for me Slam dunk will always be my favorite basketball anime. I remember the first time I cried when Hanamichi cried lol
It is a fantastic series and can be considered a true all timer!
Slam Dunk is in another level …. The GOAT of Sports Mangas
slam dunk was 1000000x better than kuroko. kuroko was just cringe if you know basketball.
I'm very familiar with basketball and don't think its cringe. Obviously its unrealistic nut if this cringe some other things must be panic attack inducing for you.
I'm on manga and anime almost 40 years now...Slam dunk still the best sports manga...second goes to Hajime no ippo..,Slam dunk is full package what great sports manga/anime should be..good storyline,funny,good character development(almost all character in this comics have good development) and the art by Inoue-sensei still my fav.
Those are two of my favorite sports manga Ashwell! Ippo used to be top 2 but after I read Ashito No Joe my new top two are Slam Dunk and Joe. The art in Slam Dunk is so good and I still consider the high five between Sakuragi and Rukawa one of the best manga panels of all time
I really hope they make more basketball animes
Sports anime have been becoming way more popular so I definitely can see it happening!
theres one I know. Asura something something.
They should probably adapt Real into an anime - it's also fro Inoue sensei
@@marcusj17 I’ve never heard it maybe I’ll read
Check out Ahiru no Sora it's a relatively new basketball anime
The only thing that threw me off in Kuroko were the BS powers (although pretty entertaining) and no sense of the basketball rules and way of play. I don’t remember from the back of my mind who was the team that was beating Kuroko’s team but they were ahead on the game with few seconds left in the last quarter and instead of running the clock out decided to shoot without looking for a foul and then kuroko’s team scores. That was so freaking bs especially when the generation of miracles winning is everything that was stupid of them
Yeah, I genuinely feel that actual basketball games themselves are the weakest aspect of the show for me. Its a dope spectacle to watch and have fun but story wise and logically it don't make no sense. The characters and the writing for their motivations tho is really good
Only Filipino fans remember Kogure's week long shot.
Si boy labo
That's cool that there are moments that specific sets of fans remember vividly!
And hanamichi's song together with his Jordan shoes🤣
"I am the genius the basketball man~"
Some say it's a matter of preference. If you are accustomed to modern animes (meaning you are part of the younger generation), you will connect and enjoy KnB a lot more. But if you are part of the generation that grew up with the classics, SD will be immortalized as the greatest sports anime/manga.
SD has grounded and realistic hand drawn art (manga), rough masculine men that was popular back in the 80s and 90s, simple, linear story, classic shonen progression and most of all, it will leave an impression on you for a very long time.
KnB has shiny and modern animation with a lot of effects, lanky and pretty boy design that is popular nowadays, story that caters to younger audience, modern storytelling.
Whilst, I like modern animes with beautiful animation like kimetsu no yaiba, jujutsu and CSM, KnB just didnt click with me. I do not find any characters likeable or relatable. The power system is also such a big turn off for me. The character designs that look like it came out of shoujo manga did not help too. Lastly, basketball with dragon ball-esque effect was the last stray for me to dislike the series.
That's interesting because I feel like the characters of KnB are actually the biggest reason why it has garnered a fanbase. They really do have some layers to a few of them, mainly being Aomine, Kise, & Kuroko. If you didn't feel I'm not gonna try and tell you you are wrong because that's your opinion. Slam Dunk brings the characters to the forefront and uses basketball as a catalyst for their growth so it will always have stronger characters than KnB which focuses so much on the spectacle.
Haikyu and Slam Dunk is the best example of realism.
Great analysis video. Albeit KnB is good, when you compare it to Slam Dunk it becomes mediocre at best. That’s how great of work Slam Dunk is.
Shoutout to Takehiko Inoue for being such a great mangaka. For anyone reading this comment, also check out “Real” and “Vagabond” from the same author of Slam Dunk, Takehiko Inoue.
Vagabond is personally on my To Read list, and I've heard great things about Real. Wayyyy too many good mangas tho.
This video should have a lot more likes compared to views, looks like fanboys came here to have you say one is better than the other
To be fair, I did put "VS" in the title so some will just see that and think I'm declaring a winner or better show/manga, but it was really appreciating both and how they tackle the subject of basketball and growth. Glad you were able to watch and enjoy it, and trust me the amount of views this video has right now are more than I ever thought it would have, I'm just happy people like you and everyone else have seen it and hopefully enjoyed it!
@@bingebois yea understandable. I thought it was a really good comparison and appreciate the effort, might be sharing this vid around!
I hope someone finds this entertaining. I spent hours on this writing, audio and video editing. So be considerate before you dislike bomb me 😂.
i will agree this time sakuragi will lose only because of sakuragi small experience unlike kagami who played years.
but if sakuragi will play for years kagami will lose. its about experience bout this fight
It would be interesting to see where they would be if they had equal time playinf basketball
if anybody gonna watch both it's better to watch Slam Dunk first then KNB, the hype is just different, also Slam Dunk is more realistic so it's better to watch it first cz KNB is unrealistic in many ways
Should def watch both tho, if you like basketball and anime
Great video I personally like slam dunk it doesn't have the best animation but that's abvious coming from a 90's anime but everything else is amazing and the manga is so good
I think a Slam Dunk anime with modern animation and better pacing, would be sooooo popular now. The manga however, is absolutely timeless and drawn to perfection. I think its the best way to consume the series.
Tried watching Kuroko but I just can't get around the absurdity of their powers. They all seem alien and using it to play sports just seems cheating really.
As a basketball player and fan, the journey is far more important than the outcome. You see NBA teams win championship, but the process to get there is what really inspires. Slam Dunk is all that. They are not a powerhouse team, Sakuragi doesn't even know how to play, but the journey they took as a team is what separates them from others. And as a viewer, you see their growth and really a part of it.
Slam Dunk literally made popular the sports anime genre all around the world. Until now, even with a short run as an anime. Slam Dunk still remembered and celebrated.
Sakuragi entered the zone when he fought ryonan
i read both mangas and didn't watch both animes
kuroko no basket is good, slam dunk is a masterpiece
I read the Slam Dunk Manga and watched the Kuroko's anime, i think that the anime enhanced KnB with the animation so I'd definitely check it out at some point.
So what I get:
Kuroko no Basket----->Zoomers.
Slam Dunk------->Boomers
I actually think it would be kinda reversed. Recently we have been seeing more emotionally impactful sports anime get popular like Haikyuu or Run With The Wind rather than superpowered stuff, and i feel like Kuroko's would fit right in with the 90's fantasy power shonen's. Its just preferential. Old dudes might wanna see cool powers and young people want an emotional story. It depends on the person
Slam dunk is the best but i love kuroko no basket too
Always great to show appreciation for both
Great content here man! I personally loved Kuroko’s, but haven’t checked out slam dunk. I’m a big basketball fan so I’ll need to see a more realistic view of basketball anime. The abilities players have in Kuroko’s is more NBA2K-like than real basketball, but they made it super entertaining. Great work here! And great editing too! I know a lot of work goes into these videos
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Slam dunk was the OG anime.
You should check that out. Unlike KNB where the protagonist is already a caliber player...in slam dunk. The protagonist started from zero knowledge about basket ball.. you know, like a zero-to-hero kind of story
@@denciolombos2510 true but being so new to basketball, Hanamichi still makes errors until the endgame
Shohoku's players are all based on early 90s NBA players, Rukawa=Jordan, Sakuragi=Rodman, Miyagi=Bogues, Akagi=Ewing, Mitsui=Hornacek
Slam Dunk walked so Kuroko can run
Slam Dunk is definitely the godfather of all sports anime in my opinion
watched slam dunk anime and manga multiple times, watched a few episodes of Kuroko, could not finish it. The characters in Kuroko are not relatable, the game they play does not feel like basketball
As someone who plays consistently, Kuroko definitely can get away from being achievable basketball that feels ridiculous, but I do feel like it has a pretty good commentary on star based Basketball and the pitfalls of it, especially seeing a team with the weakest star of the series being the one who ends up performing so well and winning a championship through teamwork. You just have to dig a little deeper since the show kind of hides it.
The first slam dunk movie is overkill. Best basketball animation by far.
Haven't seen it yet, but i am excited to!
Reality vs Power fantasy? Nah, morel ike absolute class vs absolute trash.
Don't agree and I think you're speaking in hyperbole but its your opinion.
I love Slam dunk. I like it more because I find the characters more likable and relatable, the story is engaging as compared to KNB.
I respect your opinion
And there's no villain in slamdunk
I personally don't think there is a villain in Kuroko's either but that's up to the viewer.
I absolutely love this video, and Slam Dunk. I get caught up in the thrill of KNB, and I love how flashy the players pull of their plays and shots, but Slam Dunk just pulls my heart strings. I don’t think I’ve ever been so emotionally attached to a animation/manga. I absolutely love Slam Dunk, it deserves so much more than it is now. There is also a cool mobile game of Slam Dunk, it is slightly pay to win, but if you are interested, I suggest you try it.
I have heard about the Slam Dunk mobile game, but I haven't tried it yet! Might have to. I wonder if they'll do a big event on the game when the movie comes out?
@@bingeboisThey most likely will hold a great event to commemorate the new film
Didn’t Kuroko and kagami loes to aomine and came back stronger like The Cavs did against the warriors
comparing that situation to the Cavs and Warriors trilogy is a little different, since in the first matchup with the warriors, the cavs had Kevin Love and Kyrie injured but were fully healthy the next year. Add in the Draymond Green suspension in Game 6 and it gets a little dicey to compare them 1:1
Kuroko is fun, Slam Dunk is one of the best manga/animes ever made.
Both statements can be considered true.
Both are great! If you have time you can watch both but, if you want something more interesting it's the slamdunk.
Glad you can enjoy both unlike alot of people in the comments lol. Appreciate your comment!
Yucks i really hate kuroko
SlamDunk for me ! One of the best manga/anime sports that ever existed !
That is an absolute fact!
There's one thing that i hate about kuroko is, the miracle 5 (plus 😊kagami) is so good they become even better NBA players.....
1. you never see steph curry CONSTANTLY shooting from middle court while CONTESTED.
2. there's not a single player in NBA can shoot like aoyama and CONSTANTLY GETTING IN.
3. 6'3 that can dunk from free throw lane loke MJ?? Gtfo
4. Not even Allen iverson can ankle breaks any player in every match.... but this guy can constantly ankle break anyone and not only one player, he can anklr break multiple players lmao.
4. A player that can copy moves? Gtfo.
The author didn't know the limitations of highschool players, and sometimes it start become insulting to some NBA fans
Yeah, if you watch basketball you just know that what is going on is is ridiculously exaggerated. It isn't supposed to be an accurate representation of high school basketball in Japan, because if it was NOBODY would be dunking and you'd see guys shooting like 30-35% from the field lol. Its just a fun way to show basketball on a superhero level while including some solid character writing.
The thing about Kurokos basketball which a lot of people dont realise is that its not meant to be realistic , haikyuu being a great example of a more realistic sports anime from recent times , whereas in the first episode we are presented with an mc who's premise is that he is virtually 'invisible' using slight of hand and essentially magic tricks to divert the attention elsewhere and other characters literally not noticing him stood right beside them and while this is very plausible as are most of the characters skills and moves up until around when aomine gets introduced , from the start it was never made to be a realistic high school sport animate idea of these characters having 'superpower' esk skill sets is what makes the anime different and good imo , i would argue that it would be worse without them. Like there aren't many ways to make 5 prodigies really stand out and look terrifying with a high school level skill set and keep it grounded in reality , like sure you could say they were the best of the best in their year of the whole country but they would just be regular ordinary people that are simply just better for one reason or another and it wouldnt be any different from watching a real life high school basketball team play , just in fiction. Having these superhuman like characters that are seemingly impossible to beat is what makes the anime good and have stakes.
I mean, slam dunk is "realistic." These 2.10 meter high schoolers be playing like NBA players
I mean all of them are getting buckets but nothing they are doing couldn't be done in a high level American high school. The real issue is they are Japanese and Japan is not known for basketball players of their calibers like the kids in Slam Dunk
I don't have know Slam Dunk from both at the first. But with the time I had noticed I like it more cause it looks more real as the other. I had a Korukos Basket Calender and I have since 2 Years a Slam Dunk Poster at one Wall
Both series are excellent and their is nothing wrong with having a favorite as long as you don't hate on the other. 👍
Slamdunk is better, period!
you are absolutely entitled to your opinion 👍
I want to watch SlamDunk.... But in my country, Philippines, they often made a meme about it, that its riddled with flashbacks
For anyone who watched the anime, is this true?
Read the manga instead
KnB is Ass..sad to admit it was that first japanese dub anime i watched.
I definetly don't think it is ass, especially when you start comparing to shows that are actual garbage tier, but the overdramatic stuff and unrealistic abilities can turn people off.
I think the thing that turned me off of KnB is how if feels like it is half-assing things in a way that's really bad. It's trying to be quite realistic while having the zone which just doesn't work for me. Either you be fully realistic like Slam Dunk, or you go full over-the-top with the super powers like Inazuma Eleven (both shows I really enjoy). The other thing to the half-assedness is how you don't really feel the passion in KnB compared to Slam Dunk. KnB's basketball doesn't have its heart in it and that frustrates me because I can feel the lack of it.
I haven't heard of Inazuma Eleven but ill check it out to see how they do their interpretation of super powered sports.
@@bingebois Oh, the series is very popular. It's a Level-5 property that's a game and anime series. The super powered soccer Inazuma Eleven had is essentially Shaolin Soccer levels if you're familiar with that movie.
Just know Kuroko's sports anime is like a fantasy anime where everything has a isekai feeling whereas Slam Dunk is more relevant to past era basketball context, from a realistic point of view literally from the author's view as a basketball advocate himself
Yes, that is why the video is titled Realism vs Power Fantasy. I am also a basketball fan so I'm familiar with the inspirations for some of Inoue's ideas
I love both IMO I've seen so many people hate on kuroko for being unrealistic but it's anime it's supposed to be unrealistic it's more entertaining that way.
Hating on a series because its unrealistic is just a silly way to discredit it. While it is unrealistic, Kuroko's is super fun to watch and is more of a spectacle. People can enjoy whichever show they prefer more but saying it sucks because its unrealistic is dumb.
Pov : you only like anime that have the best animation
@@foxinaround1220 LOL you're talking to a ghost stories fan so no.
just because its an anime doesnt mean it has to be unrealistic there's alot of realistic animes out there you should go check them out :>
Sports anime are different I prefer them with no super powers.
am I the only person in this comment section that enjoyed knb more then slam dunk 😭?
A lot of people came out in support of Kuroko but most of them just came to tell me I sucked on the Kuroko portion 😂 Im glad you expressed your opinion!
Sawakita would absolutely DEMOLISH Kagami
That's like, your opinion man
I think you should also note that Slam Dunk played a pivotal role as an anime/manga for a whole generation. I grew up watching it, and considering that I was a nerdy girl with no athletic ability and with generally no interest in sports, that Slam Dunk managed to capture my interest shows that it's a show that goes beyond just a simple sports anime. It's the relatable characters that's key, the slow development of each character, the way they interact, confront and overcome their struggles, and the way each character still manages to stand out. Not to mention that in relating to the characters, it brings the readers into a love for basketball. To this day, I still don't play or follow sports... except basketball.
Its undeniable the way that Slam Dunk has effected the entirety of anime and manga, alongside basketball in a lot of countries, it is one of the best and most iconic series of all time for reason. its cool to hear how many people picked up the game because of the series.
I was a similar girl as you, just an unathletic artistic kid, but it was because of a miniscule amount of exposure to Slam Dunk that I even held a basketball in my hands and tried to shoot baskets in school. While KuroBasu is great, Slam Dunk is powerful in captivating and inspiring its readers/viewers.
I liked more the realism, both anime's are great but i like more Slam Dunk.
Everyone has theiir preferences. So its fair to prefer Slam Dunk
"He'd probably be the best player in that series's Universe"
Slam Dunk Universe's Michael Jordan: And I took personally.
This is the first comment to actually make me laugh lol
Slam Dunk characters were all based on NBA players from back then. Hanamichi Sakuragi was based on Dennis Rodman
slam dunk has to be watched by manga. anime is bad but manga is perfect
Personally I don't think the anime is bad but suffers from the problem that most 90s anime suffer from, which is poor pacing. Slam Dunk reaaaallly stretches fro something that could have easily been 5 or 6 12 or 24 episode seasons for the FULL MANGA ADAPTATION. But I see where you are coming from
Slam Dunk drived so that Kuroko No Basket can fly.
Kuroko's was definitely high to say the least
And wrhen watching slamdunk i already learn basketball like 2 weeks i already know how to basic driball while watching kuroko no basket all they do is imposibbke dunk like wtf but i like the anime
That's cool anime helped you learn how to play basketball
To be honest, I still don't get how seirin beat rakuzan...
Power of teamwork and friendship my man. Classic Shonen style 😂
I grew up reading Slam Dunk,I haven’t experienced another sports series like it until Haikyuu
AKASHI HAVE EYE POWER LIKE SHARINGAN
He do be having a eye power
Because of slam dunk I now play basket ball and I love it!! My fav player is Kiminobu Kogure, he’s has the kindest personality in the show😊. If you guys did not watched or read slam dunk go try it it’s awesome❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤.
Knb actually got me to play basketball, I see alot of people saying they wouldn't recommend it, but surely people can tell whats real and what isnt, it's anime for crying out loud. It's a very fun show with endearing characters, and great action
KnB is a show I definitely would recommend to most people since its a fun show, and I truly think the generation of miracles and the relationships they share with each other are excellent. The spectacle of some of the techniques in the show alone is worth watching, like the double jumpshot lol. Most of these comments are praising Slam Dunk at the expense of Kuroko's but i still believe both shows have their own merits. Appreciate you for letting everyone know Kuroko's isn't trash as they want to think 😂
Mas maganda ang slam dunk for me, though fan din ako mg kuroko no basuke. No one can top slam dunk when it comes to basketball anime and nostalgia. Nakakatawa talaga ang slam dunk genuinely at may sense of appeal.
As a ball player Kuroko is an exaggeration of players special traits or abilities (ball handling, shooting, speed, hops etc.) when players grow into their own n develop new skills on top of there mastered one ex. A windmill layup from the right to the left a simple “double clutch could b done but cuz it’s mastered u add some jelly to it” what I like bout kuroko is it shows that now shits definitely in an extreme way like midorima shootin full courts n aomine drawin a foul throwin it behind his back. But it’s the expression of the moveset showing how skilled players develop their skill to a point where it seems like they got “powers” or “abilities”
I watched SD as a kid and multiple times in teenage years. But it hits different when I understand what a well writen story is after working as a marketer. It's impressive that the show aired almost 30 years ago and the structure is so well-built
That is the sign of a classic. If it can hold up over time and still be considered as good as it was when released.
Both animes are amazing, but as a person experienced in playing basketball and faced through the ups and downs of playing sports, SLAM DUNK is the more relatable and grounded between the two hence if you are looking for a true SPORTS story, SLAM DUNK is the way to go. And read the manga, my goodness is it really good and the art by Inoue Takehiko is amazing. Inoue is basically among the Mt. Rushmores of Mangakas. But not taking anyway from Kuroko, the charm for this show is how creative they are in tackling super power concepts in terms of basketball. Kurokos misdirection, each of the Generation of Miracles unique powers, and the concept of perfect zone. Kuroko No Basket would suit those that are into the Action Animes.
Slam Dunk is definitely the anime I recommend to basketball fans over Kuroko's, just because it is a relatable journey for anyone who has played basketball in their own life. Personally, i read the manga for Slam Dunk, and it makes me sad that they never animated the final tournament, but with the new movie supposed to cover that I'm excited! Kuroko's can also be fun for basketball fans but it is more in a way that it is so crazy that it's just awesome to see as a spectacle. Also, I think the characters were actually written pretty well in Kuroko, even though you wouldn't assume that looking from outward in.
@@bingebois Yup, really looking forward to the movie. Though I wish it was an anime season instead so that they could have more time to flush out the characters especially from the opposing teams like Toyotama and Sannoh. But we'll just have to wait and see for now.
If I want to read superpower basketball I will watch buzzer beater.
You can be into both even if you prefer one genre or another.
Slam Dunk, Ashita No Joe, Hajime No Ippo, Ping Pong (Taiyo Matsumoto) are the best spokon mangas ever. Then comes the rest.
Man I love slam dunk, and I’m sorry I couldn’t bare watching kuroko no basket, it just felt way too shonen for my liking, I understand why some people like it but for me nothing can beat slam dunk when it come to being realistic but fun at the same time, some anime’s try to be realistic but by doing that they take the fun away but slam dunk did it perfectly.
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imo. slam dunk is a better show because it shows you that "mamba mentality" state you need to get to become good at what you're trying to achieve. in the other hand kuroko's basketball is made to make you love basketball at first. so i recommend watch koruko's basketball at first if ur a complete novice to this sport and then slam dunk.