This snippet has to rank somewhere along with Gordon Gecko's Greed is good speech. A very interesting speech full of human psychology and people's reaction to greed.
A remarkable and memorising acting performance by the incomparable Walter Huston, playing a grizzled, elderly gold miner. What a wonderful actor! Never get tired of watching this timeless classic film!
Greatest english speaking film ever made. Great scenes after great scenes. That scene building is what separates Huston from all the other directors. This is beyond a great film, it is a magnificent work of art.
Me too. For instance, the scene where Howard is sifting through rocks on the ground and Dobbs talks about wanting to go home. Each man is lifting rocks, but for completely different reasons - highlighting the good or evil men can choose.
Except it's backwards. Gold doesn't get its value from people spending so much time looking for it; people spend so much time looking for gold because it's valuable. Gold is valuable because it's hard to counterfeit, scarce, and easy to make into money, jewelry, and other decoration. Substitute 4-leaf clovers for gold. They are perishable. Are they as scarce as gold? Probably not. But if they were, they'd still only have value as feed, the same as 3-leaf clovers, and only for a short while. Their perishability makes them useless as money or decoration. No one would spend time searching for them even if they were a hundred times scarcer than gold. And if anyone did, no one would pay anywhere close to the amount of time spent finding them. He just spouted the Labor Theory of Value, and it's bunk. But the scene is great, and so is the movie.
If you like this movie (and what’s not to like) you should definitely read the novel by the mysterious B. Traven. It’s short and sweet and a great read. John Huston did an excellent job adapting it. He both wrote the screenplay and directed the film, and as you read the book you can perfectly see the actors cast as the characters in the story. The book also gives a nice background of the oil boom in Mexico in the 1920s and the hard life of the American laborers who went there looking for work. What’s really awesome, though, is the ultimate fate of Fred C. Dobbs in the book. It comes so suddenly it’s stunning. Don’t skip ahead, let it happen! When you see the movie again, you’ll notice things that Huston did that you never saw unless you know what they are. It’s terrific! A great book and a great cinema classic!
W. Huston --- "A thousand men, say, go searching for gold. In six months only one is lucky --- 1 out of 1,000. His find represents not only his own labor, but the labor of 999 others to boot. That's 6,000 months or 500 years, scrabbling over a mountain going hungry and thirsty. The gold is worth what it is because of the human labor that went into the finding and getting of it. There's no other explanation. Gold itself ain't good for nothing except making jewelry and gold teeth."
The little realized 2nd father/son team in the film - Jack Holt and Tim Holt. Walter Houston is talking to ajck Holt, Tim Holt's father who gets a short medium shot towards the end of WH's speech.
The labor theory of value, give it some thought. This is a very moral movie, and one of the best to come out of America, Hollywood even! We procduce tons of facile crap, but this is a nugget in the rough.
You're right about the morality, but wrong about the crap. This picture was made in 1948. During the 1940s and early 50s, Hollywood made masterpieces and classics galore. Why, that same year saw Ford's Fort Apache and Three Godfathers, Hawks' Red River, and Dieterle's Portrait of Jennie. 1946 saw Wyler's The Best Years of Our Lives, Capra's It's a Wonderful Life, and Hitchcock's Notorious. 1950 saw Mankiewicz' All about Eve, Wilder's Sunset Boulevard, Koster's Harvey and King's The Gunfighter.
I'm not sure of the origins of the labor theory of value though I mostly associate it with Marx, I'm surprised back then they'd decide to describe a seemingly far left point of view so prominently, sure it was pre McCarthyism but still during a time when the red scare was always in the back ground. Just now looked up the writer/director, Jack Huston, it seems he was sympathetic to the Left, he was so disgusted by all the McCarthy bs he moved to Ireland and eventually gave up his US citizenship. Also the original author of the book apparently was an anarchist or at least a socialist of some kind. Luckily these days you can more easily make a movie that challenges institutions or things like capitalism, even win Best Picture like Parasite.
@@carstereobandits Marx attended lectures on the labor theory of value at Birkbeck College in London. My cousin Rebecca Gumbrell-McCormack lectured and does research at Birkbeck College University of London in the Bloomsbury district of London. The author of The Treasure of the Sierra Madre B. Traven was a rather mysterious, and very interesting man living in Mexico. He was originally German or at least lived in Germany until shortly after the end of the first World War. He was forced to flee Germany for his life after the collapse of the short-lived Bavarian Republic. B. Traven was his penname and he used a number of pseudonyms. In Germany he was almost certainly Ret Marut, which may have been a pseudonym. I highly recommend any of his novels e.g. The Death Ship, The Rosa Blanca, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, and his collection of short stories, The Night Visitor. His politics can be described as left libertarian (nothing like most American Libertarians).
@@tonygumbrell22 I'll have to check some of his stuff out, I've been enjoying a few left libertarian authors over the years, Chomsky was kind of my political 'awakening', originally I identified as conservative Republican due to my upbringing but around Occupy Wall Street I started reading Chomsky and he pretty quickly yanked me into the left. I've also read a couple books by anarchist anthropologist David Graeber. While I don't identify as anarchist or Marxist I do think getting familiar with both anarchist and Marxist theory is useful for anyone on the left. Anyway, Which book by Traven would you most recommend?
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." (1 Tim. 6:10)
@JRCrowley The majority of Gold is used for visual enhancement~decoration & little electrical. Because gold is so well praised, calibrated & sought after for jewelry it is accepted along with many other things as a medium of exchange & currency. Other attempts at festoonery are seen in Architecture, dental, & gilding. Gold is not the best conductor but is almost immune to oxidation so it is good for computers, aerospace, & etc. Medical, glass making & the rest are not worth mentioning.
Walter Huston's and Humphrey Bogart's acting really chews up the scenery in this one. But somehow, it's not overacting, it's just right. Tim Holt is the understated partner who kind of glues it all together; he's not bland, but he accurately reflects at various times the vastly different characters played by Huston and Bogart, as if he's a mirror. And note the excellent framing of each shot, and the film-noirish shadows that underscore the characters. A brilliant performance.
Ya wanna see dreck? Look at the other 999 films made that same year. They are just as bad as the films are today. You are cherry picking your examples.
Sneaking the labour theory of value and a Marxist critique of capitalism into a popular film at the height of the red scare. 👏👏👏👏 We are not worthy, B Traven and Mr Houston.
I have had money and I have been without; very poor, and very well-off, actually. And "money isn't everything" as I can well attest - but when you don't have it, you can't imagine that it isn't! I'm in an "almost broke" phase right now and I have to keep reminding myself of this...
gold itself is worthless only the labor to get it into coinage is where the value is. And of course the demand but in the beginning the price is set by the labor.
John Huston made a directorial/editing "faux pas" in this movie. In the beginning, a shot of a calendar show the year as 1928,'29 BUT if you look at the cars in the "long shots" they are 1940's vintage: i.e. rounded roofs instead of the "boxing" looking cars of the 1920's. Oops! Reminds me of that foreign film made about ancient Rome where a scene is show of a Roman Centurion wearing a wrist watch.
😂😂😂 Mount Chastity movie whole lot of people haven't seen it but I grew up we would gather around had the only color TV in the neighborhood everybody came in the house everybody brought some chicken and other stuff hamburger sloppy joes and we sit down there we didn't open our mouths fantasy movie thank you thank you thank you and I love the dark Lord I love the dark lord I don't need no stinking badges and five thumbs up for you I have cable and over 15 years I have antenna TV and you always pop up is good and it's free I just came over 15 years ago
@JRCrowley Hey Smokey Missed hearing from you. I forgot to ask you if you knew that stainless steel dry wall screws are extremely valuable. Yep they are. They are used in the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II And we all know how much one of those cost. So that proves that dry wall screws are very valuable. In fact, leather, copper wire, plastic wire insulation, carbon fiber, Plexiglas, aluminum, & rubber just to mention a few are also very valuable as they are used in the F-35. Cya Sparky
They need to make a new version of this movie only instead of gold it's getting into the US and the actors are Hondurans or "People of color". The real gold is our Constitution and what used to be the greatest country ever devised.
you sound like you struck it rich...they why are you in a down and outer..it's the gold...so man good praises..the grandaddy of them all..I know what gold does to man's souls
The labor theory of value has been completely discredited. What if those same men went to work collecting agates. If your hours are spent producing something no one wants, they are wasted. It doesn't matter how many hours you work if you lack skill. Of course the unskilled men will want to take a share of the labors of the skilled men by force. That is greed. Greed also becomes problematic when dishonest systems of money are created. Fiat money and central banking is the worst kind of greed.
Whether or not someone wants a thing is irrelevant. If it's not wanted it doesn't enter the market anyway. The socially-necessary labortime needed to reproduce a commodity determines its value (however price is affected by taxes, rents, monopoly, etc.). There's no other way around it. There's no other explanation for value chains. Even business schools now tacitly admit this through studies of procurement and logistics.
A remarkable and memorising acting performance by the incomparable Walter Huston, playing a grizzled, elderly gold miner. What a wonderful actor! Never get tired of watching this timeless classic film!
Greatest english speaking film ever made. Great scenes after great scenes. That scene building is what separates Huston from all the other directors. This is beyond a great film, it is a magnificent work of art.
one of the greatest films of all time
Walter Huston's performance is one of the greatest on film!
MAGOO same thing for Bogart
This is a statement on value and finding out what or who you really are, and what is of real value.
Great speech by Walter Huston about Gold seeking even mentions Australia!🤠👍🇦🇺
25 thousand handsome smackers worth!
John Houston's best film, and Walter Houston's best performance! Family ties that make a cinematic jewel!
I've been watching this movie for 50 years. Every time I see something I've never seen before.
John Province that's always the way!☺️
Dang I didn't know it was that long.
Me too. For instance, the scene where Howard is sifting through rocks on the ground and Dobbs talks about wanting to go home. Each man is lifting rocks, but for completely different reasons - highlighting the good or evil men can choose.
A master class of acting from the incomparable Walter Huston. It’s a joy to hear his monologue about the perils of gold prospecting.
I love this film! Great acting and plot.
I love the look when he says "it looks like you struck it rich..what are you doing here as a down and outer"...it is priceless.
The greatest explanation of why gold is worth what it’s worth.
Except it's backwards. Gold doesn't get its value from people spending so much time looking for it; people spend so much time looking for gold because it's valuable. Gold is valuable because it's hard to counterfeit, scarce, and easy to make into money, jewelry, and other decoration.
Substitute 4-leaf clovers for gold. They are perishable. Are they as scarce as gold? Probably not. But if they were, they'd still only have value as feed, the same as 3-leaf clovers, and only for a short while. Their perishability makes them useless as money or decoration. No one would spend time searching for them even if they were a hundred times scarcer than gold. And if anyone did, no one would pay anywhere close to the amount of time spent finding them.
He just spouted the Labor Theory of Value, and it's bunk. But the scene is great, and so is the movie.
@@grizwoldphantasia5005
I think that’s exactly what he said…
@@Ckom-Tunes No. He said gold is valuable because so many people spend so much time looking for it. What was his figure, one out of a thousand?
Loved this man! His acting was superb. And he hardly looks 64 here...❤
Huston is so incredibly fantastic throughout this entire film.
What a perfect cast!! and with Bogart on top form, makes John Houstons memorable adventure one of the greatest films of all time.
Great scene, Great Film, a true Classic
Indeed, the hardest part is letting go.
If you like this movie (and what’s not to like) you should definitely read the novel by the mysterious B. Traven. It’s short and sweet and a great read. John Huston did an excellent job adapting it. He both wrote the screenplay and directed the film, and as you read the book you can perfectly see the actors cast as the characters in the story. The book also gives a nice background of the oil boom in Mexico in the 1920s and the hard life of the American laborers who went there looking for work.
What’s really awesome, though, is the ultimate fate of Fred C. Dobbs in the book. It comes so suddenly it’s stunning. Don’t skip ahead, let it happen! When you see the movie again, you’ll notice things that Huston did that you never saw unless you know what they are. It’s terrific!
A great book and a great cinema classic!
W. Huston --- "A thousand men, say, go searching for gold. In six months only one is lucky --- 1 out of 1,000.
His find represents not only his own labor, but the labor of 999 others to boot. That's 6,000 months or 500 years, scrabbling over a mountain going hungry and thirsty. The gold is worth what it is because of the human labor that
went into the finding and getting of it. There's no other explanation. Gold itself ain't good for nothing except making jewelry and gold teeth."
The little realized 2nd father/son team in the film - Jack Holt and Tim Holt. Walter Houston is talking to ajck Holt, Tim Holt's father who gets a short medium shot towards the end of WH's speech.
Many lessons learned by watching this movie.
Walter Huston was excellent. He received an Academy Award for this.
***** His son directed this. John Huston, Angelica Hustons father and Humphrey were drinking buddies.
***** Bacall and Humphrey were ovr 20 years apart in age, but they stayed together until his death.
The labor theory of value, give it some thought. This is a very moral movie, and one of the best to come out of America, Hollywood even! We procduce tons of facile crap, but this is a nugget in the rough.
You're right about the morality, but wrong about the crap. This picture was made in 1948. During the 1940s and early 50s, Hollywood made masterpieces and classics galore. Why, that same year saw Ford's Fort Apache and Three Godfathers, Hawks' Red River, and Dieterle's Portrait of Jennie. 1946 saw Wyler's The Best Years of Our Lives, Capra's It's a Wonderful Life, and Hitchcock's Notorious. 1950 saw Mankiewicz' All about Eve, Wilder's Sunset Boulevard, Koster's Harvey and King's The Gunfighter.
@@nstix2009xitsn Good point, they don't make 'em like the used to. Good movies still happen, but very few and far between.
I'm not sure of the origins of the labor theory of value though I mostly associate it with Marx, I'm surprised back then they'd decide to describe a seemingly far left point of view so prominently, sure it was pre McCarthyism but still during a time when the red scare was always in the back ground.
Just now looked up the writer/director, Jack Huston, it seems he was sympathetic to the Left, he was so disgusted by all the McCarthy bs he moved to Ireland and eventually gave up his US citizenship. Also the original author of the book apparently was an anarchist or at least a socialist of some kind. Luckily these days you can more easily make a movie that challenges institutions or things like capitalism, even win Best Picture like Parasite.
@@carstereobandits Marx attended lectures on the labor theory of value at Birkbeck College in London. My cousin Rebecca Gumbrell-McCormack lectured and does research at Birkbeck College University of London in the Bloomsbury district of London. The author of The Treasure of the Sierra Madre B. Traven was a rather mysterious, and very interesting man living in Mexico. He was originally German or at least lived in Germany until shortly after the end of the first World War. He was forced to flee Germany for his life after the collapse of the short-lived Bavarian Republic. B. Traven was his penname and he used a number of pseudonyms. In Germany he was almost certainly Ret Marut, which may have been a pseudonym. I highly recommend any of his novels e.g. The Death Ship, The Rosa Blanca, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, and his collection of short stories, The Night Visitor. His politics can be described as left libertarian (nothing like most American Libertarians).
@@tonygumbrell22 I'll have to check some of his stuff out, I've been enjoying a few left libertarian authors over the years, Chomsky was kind of my political 'awakening', originally I identified as conservative Republican due to my upbringing but around Occupy Wall Street I started reading Chomsky and he pretty quickly yanked me into the left. I've also read a couple books by anarchist anthropologist David Graeber.
While I don't identify as anarchist or Marxist I do think getting familiar with both anarchist and Marxist theory is useful for anyone on the left.
Anyway, Which book by Traven would you most recommend?
Excellent. I'm a huge Humphrey Bogart fan. Great actor, and great acting by Walter Huston and Tim Holt.
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." (1 Tim. 6:10)
My great grandfather was an extra in this movie. I bet he was an awesome man.
Where?
Remember the Bugs Bunny cartoon with the little penguin."Can you help a fellow American who's down on his luck?"An homage to this great film.
Bogart and co in top form here in John Hustons memorable adventure
Huston father and son (director). One of best films of all time. Walter Huston died about a year later.
Brilliant! Christy Lemire (of Assoc. Press) missed this one somehow in her list of top movies about greed.
Brijesh Janardhanan Thank you! A few months ago, I was compiling a list of the greatest movie
speeches, and I completely forgot about that one.
When actors acted.
Jim Churchill they still do old man
Bogie was / is a national treasure. There will never be another.
Boggie could also play good guy roles , excellently…
One of the finest film made by John Huston: any chance you could upload the rest? I've always wanted to see it. Thank you brijeshjanardhanan!
greed in humans, great message
What are you doing here - a "Down-and-Outer?"
+Spartaculus Jones thats the gold
@JRCrowley
The majority of Gold is used for visual enhancement~decoration & little electrical. Because gold is so well praised, calibrated & sought after for jewelry it is accepted along with many other things as a medium of exchange & currency. Other attempts at festoonery are seen in Architecture, dental, & gilding. Gold is not the best conductor but is almost immune to oxidation so it is good for computers, aerospace, & etc. Medical, glass making & the rest are not worth mentioning.
What a great film.
thank you brijesh
i guess you could say it's ... dead money
You ain't the right guy for gold dobbsie
Now that's FORESHADOWING.......
THE GREAT B. TRAVEN
Walter Huston's and Humphrey Bogart's acting really chews up the scenery in this one. But somehow, it's not overacting, it's just right. Tim Holt is the understated partner who kind of glues it all together; he's not bland, but he accurately reflects at various times the vastly different characters played by Huston and Bogart, as if he's a mirror. And note the excellent framing of each shot, and the film-noirish shadows that underscore the characters. A brilliant performance.
Gold doesn't change a man, it just reveals what he really is.
excellent movie. I saw it today
the bum talking to walter huston is tim holt's father
0:03 the streets are full o guys push’n each other…
I tead the original book ,John Huston nailed rhe character...
Fantastic movie!
...fallout anyone?
I can't stomach the dreck they call 'entertainment' today having grown up on classics such as 'Madre' and all of the great actors of the past.
Ya wanna see dreck? Look at the other 999 films made that same year. They are just as bad as the films are today.
You are cherry picking your examples.
Is that pat mcormic or am I seein things …I love classic dialog
AWESOME
Sneaking the labour theory of value and a Marxist critique of capitalism into a popular film at the height of the red scare.
👏👏👏👏
We are not worthy, B Traven and Mr Houston.
I have had money and I have been without; very poor, and very well-off, actually. And "money isn't everything" as I can well attest - but when you don't have it, you can't imagine that it isn't! I'm in an "almost broke" phase right now and I have to keep reminding myself of this...
Not to many Walter Hustons come down the pipe 😊😊😊
And don’t forget Jack Holt as the other bum!
gold itself is worthless only the labor to get it into coinage is where the value is. And of course the demand but in the beginning the price is set by the labor.
Yes sir!!!
Gold, gold, gold. Money, money, money. Mammon.
Few writers in Mexico wrote so well
John Huston made a directorial/editing "faux pas" in this movie. In the beginning, a shot of a calendar show the year as 1928,'29 BUT if you look at the cars in the "long shots" they are 1940's vintage: i.e. rounded roofs instead of the "boxing" looking cars of the 1920's. Oops!
Reminds me of that foreign film made about ancient Rome where a scene is show of a Roman Centurion wearing a wrist watch.
+Todd Baxter and a flat top
Walter Huston was great.
His son directed the movie as well
I know I should just enjoy the movie scene, but all I can think about is the beeping... The fucking beeping...
OMG and ghosts lol
are we talking about fallout 😂
Yes
XD
I watched The Treaaaasure of the Sieerra MMMMaaaadre full movie here twitter.com/883c91a386ba6c23a/status/822781181812883456
Outstanding comment.
@keno8spot Absolutely...
😂😂😂 Mount Chastity movie whole lot of people haven't seen it but I grew up we would gather around had the only color TV in the neighborhood everybody came in the house everybody brought some chicken and other stuff hamburger sloppy joes and we sit down there we didn't open our mouths fantasy movie thank you thank you thank you and I love the dark Lord I love the dark lord I don't need no stinking badges and five thumbs up for you I have cable and over 15 years I have antenna TV and you always pop up is good and it's free I just came over 15 years ago
De film kun je zonder meer op my space bekijken!!!
Film ohne Weiteres auf my space zu sehen.
@JRCrowley
Hey Smokey
Missed hearing from you. I forgot to ask you if you knew that stainless steel dry wall screws are extremely valuable. Yep they are. They are used in the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II
And we all know how much one of those cost. So that proves that dry wall screws are very valuable. In fact, leather, copper wire, plastic wire insulation, carbon fiber, Plexiglas, aluminum, & rubber just to mention a few are also very valuable as they are used in the F-35.
Cya
Sparky
They need to make a new version of this movie only instead of gold it's getting into the US and the actors are Hondurans or "People of color". The real gold is our Constitution and what used to be the greatest country ever devised.
No not every movie needs a remake
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@stoufferd2
It's true. Money isnt everything...it isn't even enough...
@hermanoguzman
Strange indeed. Almost as if it was not AmE...
you sound like you struck it rich...they why are you in a down and outer..it's the gold...so man good praises..the grandaddy of them all..I know what gold does to man's souls
Its funny to me how these old hollywood actors talked; "half a million dollas woith"
"weawy weawy quiet... Im hunting wabbits"
Who was B. Traven?? wink. wink. EVERYONE!!
bogart was one homely dude
***** u probably are
lala Yeah but he always got the girl and he played in the #1 romance movie of all time, Casablanca.
@stoufferd2 Money isn't 🅰nything if you have a life, friends and family
@SuperChuck1997 lol nobody
The labor theory of value has been completely discredited. What if those same men went to work collecting agates. If your hours are spent producing something no one wants, they are wasted.
It doesn't matter how many hours you work if you lack skill. Of course the unskilled men will want to take a share of the labors of the skilled men by force. That is greed.
Greed also becomes problematic when dishonest systems of money are created. Fiat money and central banking is the worst kind of greed.
Whether or not someone wants a thing is irrelevant. If it's not wanted it doesn't enter the market anyway. The socially-necessary labortime needed to reproduce a commodity determines its value (however price is affected by taxes, rents, monopoly, etc.). There's no other way around it. There's no other explanation for value chains. Even business schools now tacitly admit this through studies of procurement and logistics.