The Harsh Truth about DSA in 2023.
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- Importance Of DSA is a very debatable topic in the tech community. Some say that DSA is a must have if you want to know how to get into FAANG, and some say that DSA is useless even if you want to get into FAANG. So what is the reality of DSA? Is it important to master Data, Structures and Algorithms (DSA) to get into FAANG? And can you get remote tech jobs without DSA? Watch this video by Harkirat Singh to know!
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On which area you are doing open source?
what is open source?
DSA is like Adhaar Card for clearing initial rounds for both senior,junior sde's
Aptitude is pre aadhar card for freshers
Only logical take
Good take on it .but still it's necessary to build logic I think .
@@surajjanampally7023 I learnt building logics by doing development building products then i started DSA, so depends individual to individual
@@softwiz8160 in which college year are you in?
Real mature video, thanks for putting this out.
1. Not discarding the fact that it is a necessary evil.
2. Not removing the parts of the video where you struggle to solve the bug for a moment.
3. The idea to solve one for the arguments you gave was great too!
can you please tell should we have to learn dsa or development?
@@tapabratapalchowdhury507 learn dsa to start with and then delve in to development majorly learning about the basic REST APIs implementations, types of HTTP communication protocols, etc.
The reason I got frustrated in my first job was because I was good at DSA. I could crack the interview but not understand shit in the company. Most of my friends are facing the same problem. I used to feel am I cribbing too much? How is everyone working on technologies they don't understand. Now i understand that one should not run behind hefty packages but focus on a niche. I wasn't wrong , I was just looking upon the wrong people for advice .
Thanks for the truthful advice Harkirat, very few people like you in the Indian software space , specially for college students, are giving the right advice.
Even I’m in the same situation, learnt DSA and now honestly I don’t use it much and I think we must focus on the niche skills more than DSA.
@@zyx7955 experience(2-3years) with skill like in blockchain development, Android development,etc. Keep hands on core subjects for web development system design, computer network .
I am actually frustrated that I did not study DSA more and couldn't crack a company in my Placements but my sister(another Software dev) actually told me that it's actually more tough in the company because your skills are not there & you have to struggle a lot but after seeing many comments like yours all over the YT developer community. I think there is very much of truth in what my sister said.
@@thechantoftamohara explain more
i have basically understood that top tech companies use dsa and other stuff to basically filter people out in interviews but these concepts are not super useful in the real work at companies.
the problem with creators in youtube is that they lie for their own benefits. But i believe that you are genuine when giving advices. i hope you remain the same! thanks bhaiyya for this great piece of advice in this vid!
I think the biggest problem for people to start with open source is to find a open source project which includes the technology which they have learnt and then finding a issue which they are capable of solving. What makes it even harder, is that there tons of project available and trying to choose the right one become more of a complex task than solving it. I think we need more beginner friendly video for starting open source like the where harnoor contributes to open source. That video was really motivating and helped me realize how easy it is to contribute to open source.
Thanks brother, you opened my eyes from now I will now spent more time learning new skills and doing open source projects rather than memorising algorithms.
Really thankful for this video Harkirat. About your previous one with Harnoor, you both did an excellent job of demystifying the whole process from searching for issues to making the final contribution.
I'd be grateful if you could upload more of that kind where you're or someone in collaboration is going deep into solving intermediate issues for 45 mins to an hour maybe. All the confusion, looking at docs, googling and eventually solving will inspire to have the right mindset for students. I think it will help a lot of people get comfortable with open-source because I have searched far and wide but no one has done detailed content on this topic, series kind of.
You're a class apart in terms of software dev content on UA-cam. The way you integrate actual challenge and hard work with smart work is inspiring to me. Thank you 🙏
I am in awe of you. The clarity you have on subjects is just too impressive.
If you can make a couple more videos relating to contribution in open source, that would would really help in understanding the whole thing even better
@@satyamvlogs3082 You can work as a security guard at my villa
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@@pooja6380 😂😅
I watched your videos a long ago, and got inspired a lot , did open source even gsoc last year(a big thanks to you ),
Saw you inactive for a long time, good to see you back ,
Thanks for making so awesome understandable videos , helped me a lot ❤
He is absolutely right, DSA knowledge should be there but its overhyped nowadays as its rarely used in actual industry, even those work in google do use it once in a year or 2. DSA is moneymaking thing for many who runs their courses for DSA or have their followers since they claim to be DSA champs or gurus.
You are a perfect combination of iit degree + cs+ 4 years of job. Best time to learn from you. Keep it up and post more often. Also start a mentorship program where you guide people in their cs journey. trust me it will earn more than your job and i will be the first customer...
You are right, I am second year student of CS but lack of skills and literally if you know or not there is a hype of becoming software developer in every Colleges only few one's think about different domains 😕
This mentorship culture is unfortunately ruining things in India. I see it way too often. People like this person actually like their job since they are working on change making problems.
He is a candidate master on codeforces, which shows how good he is at DSA and it shows what he is capable of doing in development,he first focused on developing problem solving skill,...go on data guys...focus on cp and DSA as much as you can till 2/3 year!! If you are from tier 3 ...
I have 2 year experience as a Python Dev..
I don't know DSA. Should i learn it now or focus on LLD design
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I'd suggest you to study Data Structures at least because if you in some point need DS to dive in some topics like System Design, Concurrent Programming and Performance Tuning you will need to know Data Structures at least.
See the thing which i can always say as all youtuber are doing this part so everyone will say dsa dsa...but see not every one get faang of pbc....it like an iit...so focus on technologies learn react,angular,mongodb,etc...and get a job.....
@@ujjwalshrivastava3594 He still needs to learn Data Structures, some technologies such as a Database like Redis will requires him to understand Data Structures also not knowing the appropiate data structures will lead to underperformant application.
L advice . Not worth wasting 2-3 years on something like Cp. Do cp if you love the sport. but exploring new technologies, contributing to open source >>> Cp. Leetcode is more than enough to improve your problem solving skills
I am looking forward to seeing more videos of yours on how to make open source contributions. Please do make more videos on this.
Love your vids bro, keep it up!
Please make some more videos related to open source. Last video with Harnoor Singh was much informative. We want more content like that so that we do not get confused while contributing to open source. Thank you.
#MoreOpenSourceContributionVideo We need more videos on Open Source, Last video was awesome, answered many of my questions, #Next would be to start from setup project in local cause thats where most beginners struggles.
I started contributing to social winter of code with your help. thankyou sir,you are the constant source of motivation to me
I work as a Lead at a Sequoia funded startup. I have been a founder before. All I can say is, judging candidates on DSA is very low effort and lazy. From my experience of interviewing at top companies, and having interviewed top talent in the industry, this is what I have to say,
- DSA interviews only test if you have practiced one aspect of problem solving.
- You can almost never solve an extremely hard DSA problem, if you have no prior experience in practising a similar problem.
- A healthier and a more effective interview experience is one where you give the candidate an unknown problem (may or may not be DSA) and judge their approach, comprehension, ability to ask right questions, clarity of thought process
- All the interviews I take are open book interviews, candidate is free to search anything online
- We always try to simulate the experience of what it would be like to work with us.
- DSA interviews are improperly used by junior interviewers to feel good about themselves
- DSA interviews in their current form should die
I must admit, I have zero motivation to mindlessly practice DSA. Therefore, I suck at DSA interviews, despite having done top tier work, and having lead teams of top tier engineers.
Hi @RandomGuy-co7rq i’m Mani currently working as a fullstack developer is there openings are going on in your company can you please refer me.
"DSA interviews are improperly used by junior interviewers to feel good about themselves"
Why do companies ask these junior interviewers to interview people?
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Again Commenting , your videos make me to think again and again "Learn more to earn more".
As a beginner what roadmap should I follow for a better future career, currently I'm pursuing btech second year in ai branch,so what steps should i follow from the beginning and I know little bit of python excluding that iam a fresh beginner to this feild,so can anyone please guide me who has good experience in this feild it would be a great help for me.
I am looking for job. I started studying DSA but got frustrated soon. One of my college mate got job. That guy solved 300+ leetcode question. While talking to him he said that he was struggling to understand code in company which was based on typescript and passportjs. I think DSA is important but not the absolute thing. And for people looking for job I have advice that study DSA but also have knowledge of tech stack which is mostly used in companies and make 2 to 3 good projects to show on resume then you are good to go.
Great video man, one question though, I am beginner in CS and I unfortunately watched Tanay Pratap
‘s video about AI and that demotivated me a lot to peruse it! Before that I was really going at it, learning Data Science and maths. Can you look at it and comment if he’s right about AI and Data Science jobs? Should I really not be pursuing AI or keep learning it as a backup option and focus on full stack or backend?
Bro go for data science it has lot of opportunities you can be ml or ai Engineer. And some people would say data science job is going to be automated, it's true but only data analytics not data science data science is huge field which hal sub domain like ml, dl , ai and etc. Although i respect tanay Pratap but he is very biased with his own experience and always pitch frontend and don't believe everything he says.
Just a feedback for this video, yes plz do more videos on open source contributions, there are very less youtubers who guide on Open Source Contribution. Videos jo "Teach me like I m five years old" ke similar pattern me which covers every niche from finding organisations to contributing will definitely help !!
Love this channel recently ❤️, the way ur geniune throughout the video, showing a mistake made by you, though you could have edited, just reduces some stress .
Definitely i will contribute open source in near future , but I'm into dsa for now .
Thanks for your great work ✌️.
You're a kind of content creator whom I would like to see quite famous but not before I get into Tech or else everyone would start getting the bigger perspective like yours😅😅
Hey Harkirat bhaiya ! Thank you for informative video .What would you choose between AI and web3 if you had to choose one?
the "pick a niche field like ai ml or web3 with not a lot of people working in it" seems correct but is very scary at the same time. core stuff like web dev and app dev is probably never gonna go out of demand and web3 just might especially if crypto doesn't pick up (i understand how crypto isn't web3 but it's perceived value is highly linked with it and it matters). ai ml is here to stay for a loooong time but i kinda suck at math so don't know if that's gonna be the right career path for me.
I recently enrolled in scaler and paid Rs.2.74 lakh fee(Upfront) and they are just teaching DSA there for 1st 6-8 months, I see a lot of freshers enrolled in Scaler are not able to get jobs even after training on DSA so much. I totally agree with your point to spend more time on open source.
Please create a lot of videos on Open source or some structured course around.
Lol
this comment helped me to not waste money on scaler which I was about to do a month back, thanks.
@@himanshusrivastava2418 i'd say DSA is really helpful and important to open up your mindset.
But scaler is way too expensive for dsa.
They will also teach LLD AND HLD but again that can also be learned by paying less money through some paid resources.
I wanted to get interview opportunity so that was my main reason to pay 2.74lakh
@@TopTalentBridge so that's the reason why I get scaler ads all the time lol
Yeah scaler is way too expensive that's why I took acciojobs course (upfront) with Rs. 5900 for 9 months. At least accio has money-back policy if we don't get a job.
Hey Bhaiya I am in 4 sem and have some experience in frontend but the problem is that everyone in my college is learning web dev what should I do to stand out from crowd should I learn new technology then which one
Good for data engineering or AI ML or blockchain don't run with rat race learn new skills
Great bro!!! You explain very well ❤
How do we get started with web3 ...there is a lot of confusion about this ....can you tell something more about it??
Please post more content on how to contribute in open source...it will help a lot 🙏
Harkirat bhaiya great video as always... Also did you join the superteam dao?( Noticed your t-shirt) I am also trying to get into the blockchain space have written a few smart contracts but can you please make out a detailed roadmap going till advance not just a beginner one. Thank you in advance bhaiya. Happy Republic day
I think we must emphasis more on innovation and development than solving DSA problems .
It is an approach kind of thing. DSA is just a means and a tool to understand other areas better rather then being a goal. It in itself is useless and a mental game unless you study it with another subject like Databases, Network where you will see how useful it is.
@@dengai2932 i agree dsa is really useful
is it okay to solve dsa problems for company interviews in javascript or python, unlike C++ which is widely used??? if yes than do we need to write classes for problems of graphs and trees in Js or pyth? pl.@harkirat can clear my doubt?
People use python these days. Cpp is not a necessity.
yes bhaiya please make videos on open source contributions - it could be even more helpful if you could do open source on AI/ML
Hey Harkirat, Loved this Video. As a 3rd Year CS Student I Will definitely follow your advice.
One thing I'm really confused about it that i Know Full Stack Development and Little bit of DSA and Now I Want to go into Web 3 Space. But the Problem is I'm Confused between Solana and Ethereum. According to you which Chain Should i go with? Any Reasons
Also Will Loved to see the roadmap for web 3 by you as you're active in the community.
Hoping that you will take out some time from your busy schedule to solve my query.
Always ❤ for you.
I mean Mr still placements in college are looking for people who are good at DSA and I want to learn dsa for the sake of just getting placed in an on campus interview but I am interested in java backend role so what should I do now? learn databases and the other stuffs required to become a backend engineer and focus on leetcode on the side?
Nice one brother will from today will try to spend more time on open source...
Thank for clearing my doubts
Hey Harkirat! could you please make a video for competitive programming because there are many CP lovers and also seen that you are good at CP.
I agree with you that DSA will probably not be used while you work, and honing your skills, and contributing to open source should be the focus for a good software engineer.
But the sad reality is, DSA is the only criteria to get into any tech company these days, not only for freshers but also for experienced professionals. One can be a brilliant software engineer, having built amazing softwares. But end of the day, for him/her to land a job in any tech company, he/she would need DSA.
For all tech companies, the first round interview would be on DSA. And not clearing that would eliminate the person no matter how good he/she is as a software developer. Even service companies have adopted this nowadays.
Please make a serie on open source contribution......
How one can start with open source.....it will really helpful for beginners to get started with their career in open source.....
Love your work👍✌️
It would be great if you continued making videos about OpenSource contributions. At the end of the day, they are the most valuable..!!
Harkirat Bhai please make a complete video on the Gsoc proposal which the company can select for a better learning
Before watching your video I don't even know what GSOC and open source is ? I was just blindly doing DSA . Thanks brother for such content.
Yes, if possible please make more video related to open source contribution.
sir in one video you were using terminal and talking about linux what are all these things , what is web dev , block chain, android dev and what do we have to do alongside solving problems on dsa can you make a video on roadmap till final year of college i am about to start my 2nd semester so please help me with your guidance what should i do?
Thank you for the video it is really helpful
one question, On a scale of 1-10 how important the DSA is if I want to start open source contribution? (I am in first year of IT engineering so should I learn DSA/Cpp first?)
hey....really great video as always!!
can you please guide how to become an expert in aiml and web3....i am in 1st year of college right now and would appreciate your advice.:)
Hey harkirat learned a lot frok your videos i am not from eng/cs bg am from commerce and have done few open source contribs, jest you might know i have good contribs there i also contributed to the react repo itself will this add some weight to my resume ?
for sure bro
how important is college CPI ?? I am from tier-1 college but chemical engg.
Except ai web3 ML anything else u can recommend ??
Thanks bhaiya for making all your videos
Any other profile u can mentioned other than ai ml web3? Something not so coding but a very technical job?
Heyy this video was amazing , I would really appreciate if you would make a detailed roadmap on web3 or guide us through good resources 😢
Please tell me which technologies I need to learn to get a placement worth 1 crore I am currently in 1 year
A better solution to the last question can be to concat the 's' string to itself (it's length wd become 2*n) and just find the goal in it...if it is less than 2*n then goal is just rotated version of s.
nice video i am also looking for remote job
i might use these tips to get one thanks again
Please make a video on how to learn Web3 or Web3 roadmap and become zero to hero in Web3 and what are some Web3 projects we can contribute.
@harkirat I'm sure when you are working for the low latency systems, DSA based optimisations must be helping you. Am I right ?
Can you please make a video on how to make a career in Web3 and what are the language and course to learn from
I am mechanical graduate and working in Infosys. Currently I am in training. I am preparing my dsa skills to crack big companies but .... What should be my path ??
This is what I was also thinking about 👍🏻.
Great learning from ur video sir🙏
Keep making such kind of videos really very helpful 🙏
should i learn dsa or not does remote company ask for dsa if i have done enough open source contribution
How do you see fields like Data Analysis and Data Engineering ? Could they be my best first step entering into the field of Data Science ? As you mentioned AI ML and Web3 to give more focus to, where AI ML comes in Data Science, So isn't Data analysis a good first step? Or Data Engineering? Or we should jump into AI and ML directly?
I actually like working on algorithms , could someone suggest me a way so that I can mover further in this field ,it's just that web dev is ok but with the help of dsa i can really make an impact idk if it is the right path to take as big companies ask for both but i hope it will work out fine.
If you attend a top-tier college, companies will come to you and filter out candidates based on their data structures and algorithms (DSA) skills. However, as a student at a tier-3 college, what steps should one take to secure an interview with a big tech company? I believe that projects, hackathons, and open-source contributions can help you stand out from the rest. What do you think? Another question I have is, if I join a startup and gain some work experience, will it be easier to get into a FAANG company when I apply later on?
Please share with me if you get an answer for this.
@@studyaccount8any response?
@@adeshshinde916 Nah man, still waiting
@@studyaccount8 🙁
Where to learn AL/ML in depth? Udemy ,Coursera courses are not in depth
You keep mentioning that contribute to the open source as much as possible but could you please clarify that if a 3rd yar student isn't doing DSA and eliminating her/himself from on-campus placements, how can they be assured that they will still get a stable job
For second problem `return sorted(s) == sorted(goal) ` wouldn't it enough??
Bruuh samaj hi nahi aa raha kaise contribute karu video bhi dekh li bohot saari ...Aapki aur Harnoor wali bhi dekh li..
Mene abhi tak ek bhi open source contribution nahi kiya till now so aur confuse ho gaya...
Help kardo Bhai...
BTW I know MERN stack Maine projects bhi bana rakhe hai koi achi organisation ho toh voh bhi suggest kar do ..
Kripa hogi aapke upar...
Whats your take on cyber security? I report bugs in bug bounty programs and have hall of fame and acknowledgements from companies like Unilever and govt of India, Germany
It will be great help if u create more videos on how to contribute to open source
nice video to watch when u have your ds exam tomorrow
I was in 2nd year when I saw ur video 4 year eng in 4 minutes
I saw u on h singh's channel
Take care of ur health brother
Bhaiya, does mobile development has great future as web developer. please reply
DSA to engineering students is like PCM to science students, both of em help to reach ur goal pretty much unrelated to what u studied developers in case of working professionals and CSE branch in case of students respectively
I am confused what should I choose right now learning a frontend dev. Or I focus on web 3 ?
I want to do something that help me in freelancing also after learning it. I am first year student right now.
Learn the latest tools used in market
Informative 👏
Please make detail videos on how to start contributing to open sources like gsoc we are from tier 3 college do not where to to go from whom to take advice. It will be of great help please🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Sir please make a video on how you selected open source companies to contribute in their project and if possible kindly make a video by actually doing it sir it would be great help
Excellent video bhaiya
Hey Harkirat, just wanted to say, doing great work and I might be in the 5% who will try the G SOC and keep pushing these vids.
Sir i want to connect with you how can i please i really need your help??
can u please advice how first year students should contribute in open source?
Is web development relevant in 2023? Could you make a video on top careers in 2023?
Where to get open source work from?
What if a student focuses on computer subjects thoroughly?
How to build logic for the project in JS and from where to learn all concepts of any language which people write to build a project? Please brother give a reply or make a video 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Thanks a lot
I share your sentiments.. Cheers
how many leetcode problems have you solved till data bro?
Yes we want more open source videos.
Muze front end mein jana hai i don't want to learn dsa muze nahi karni hard core coding i am more interested in design stuff what should I do?
thank you so much