What was twice as funny was when you could see his reflection in the mirror of the truck while he was getting the one slo-mo pan shot, which made it obvious he was doing voice-over at that point. Then you could see his reflection in the nav screen at another point making it obvious he was talking on-camera about the symmetrical center stack.
So screw the ford GT huh? The GT, Raptor and Police Interceptor all share the same engine. The only difference in the engine is the cams an tunes. Now you seem to fail to realize boost is the replacement for displacement. That way you can still have power an fuel economy which everyone wants.
@@tmrdarkstar85 So the best option is buy the old Raptor with the 6.2 V8 and put twin turbos to put the little V6 to shame in the New Raptor. Problem Solved. If you want fuel economy don't buy a Raptor to begin with.
The new one is better in every single way except the fact that it has a v6. If they really wanted the new one to live up to the raptor name, should have made a twin turbo V8! How sick of a truck would that be!
@@alexbarn3841 no not correct. They have tried every engine. Even the v12s. And this year they have ran the fastest track records at every track with the turbo v6. Explain that...
Fun Fact about the Gauge Cluster for the first Gen Raptors: before you start the truck hold the okay button on the left of the steering wheel controls for 3-5 seconds and you enter "engineering mode". you can scroll through different options and one option is a digital Speedometer!!! so nice to have a digital speedo
the new raptor is crazy capable, but there's a reason Hennessy will now do a v8 swapped gen2 raptor. old raptor for sure, just supercharge it, long travel suspension, you're good to go.
@@basshead. no bro Ford GT Mustang has a v8 engine there is also a Shelby GT350 AND there is an EcoBoost Mustang and the brand new Shebly GT500 aslo the super snake all of em have v8 engines except that EcoBoost Mustang
I just bought a 2012 Raptor with no miles on it and I love it wouldn’t get the Raptor with the eco boost. Little compartment holds your business cards 6.2 supercharged is insane
Livernois Performance does all kinds of awesome upgrades to that 6.2, including cams and superchargers. They sound MEAN with a set of cams and an exhaust!
4ft tall little person subscriber here. It’s an odd case being there’s way more tall people than dwarves like me but that tail gate on the new raptor would be a dream.
Hey mike. Love the truck content. I would love to see a 2020 gmc 2500hd AT4 build. And maybe hear it more towards off-road with fatter tires out the smaller rims and leave the dirty ax as the more street version. If anything I’d love to hear your opinion on the new gmcs
When your off road thrashing it your not going to care what the infotainment system is doing, however you will care about hearing a nice v8 rumble. 6.2 for the win. One thing you forgot to mention is the newer one has a stiffer frame, witch I wouldn't mind having! There both awesome!
The only problem i remember about the old one is that the frame is easily bent off reading and hitting jumps so you need to find a way to reinforce the frame
@@dancarlos1216 same thing is happening with the zr2 now. Same issue the raptors were getting. People had more money than brains and jumped the hell out of it.
Nick Tholl I’ve jumped my first gen Raptor quite a few times and even hit bump stops once, key is making sure the truck jumps and lands evenly. You can’t just see a spot and jump the hell out of it. You have to run it a few times, hence why the big boy trucks use prerunners to get coordinates and key terrain areas.
Definitely choose the old 6.2L v8, wish the new Raptors still had a v8 option because nothing beats the noise of a v8, and with just a few mods that v8 can be kicking the eco boosts a$$ in a race, definitely think you should buy the raptor Mike, would love the content and I would love a raptor build, maybe long tubes, super charger or pro charger and a shift kit would love to see
Two beautiful trucks , but I’m old school and I like my old “ truck “ amenities . Butterfly windows , rubber flooring , manual hubs , single cab etc etc etc . Great video and thanks for sharing . Cheers
Gen 1 has the (4) auxilliary switches standard and did offer the tailgate step, remote start, etc as options. The smaller 5.4 was only available for 2010. As for the bumper mounted fog/auxilliary LEDs, they are not standard on either truck.
You know Mike, this was a solid review/comparison. Voicing is good. Pacing is good. You point out interesting and relevant things. Camera work is exceptional. I’d love to see more of this type of content! Maybe you’ll carve into Doug’s demuros market 😎
That little storage square below the 12V is where the 110V power outlet would be, if they would have optioned that out. The truck comes with a storage square on the left too, if you don't get the tow package.
Call me old fashioned, but all this technology takes away from the true driving experience. When i drive my 1972 chevelle its me and my big block 572 that is straight piped. Thats all you need
Imagine the new raptor tailgate didnt have soft open. Someone walks by your truck and the tailgate randomly violently falls open scaring people walking by as you sit in the cab and laugh
I'll get criticized here , but I own a 2013 f350 and use the step all the time when I'm loading alone. Tossing bags of seed/feed/dirt only works so well for utilizing every inch of the bed. The the step I can have 2 bags on my shoulder and walk up into the bed
Well, I think that the "older" raptor is definitely the better one to keep, in fact it has the v8 in it. While yes, you can get the same amount of performance out of the v6 if you put a supercharger or turbo or whatever on the v8 you will get so much more out of it than possible in the v6.
At time mark 12:00 you can add more oem upfitter switches in that pocket. I installed some in my 2010 f150 platinum. you can use it as a pocket to throw stuff in there but I utilize it for upfitter switches.
New one is so sexy looking, prefer the V8 over the ecoboost though. I do get that some people might prefer the older one, I got myself a low mileage 2011 Dodge Challenger over a new style 2015+ because I prefer the simpler setup old ones vs the high tech feel of the new ones.
I’d get a 2019 raptor but with key entry, u put into ON, wait few sec to get the fuel pump go on and then start it, much easier on the engine and gets all engine parts going, always done it With push button u don’t have much control over starting system
Mike you are right around 12 mins in that the dash is symmetrical. It lowers production costs for right hand drive models in other countries. Not everything is going to be reversible but they're going to make as much as possible. Less R&D and variant manufacturing.
Both trucks are awesome! I choose my 2020 gen2 and I love everything about it. I'm a Subaru technician so I've come up around turbo cars. Definitely enjoy my truck.
how wide r the bodys now of the ford's...... the raptor s vs the f-150 or f-250 & the f-350........... how wide r all rigs here outside tire to outside tire front & back ( ALL FACTORY ONES ONLY PLZZZ ).........??????
I have a 2013 F150 FX4, had it since new. You're right with the sync, you have to push the screen kind of hard. Mine is also that way and has been that way since I purchased it.
I love everything about the new Raptor except the motor Why didn't Ford just throw a turbo or a procharger or a supercharger on the V8 it's a truck I don't want a V6 in my truck even if it's faster the exhaust note doesn't match the truck🤔🤨😖😔😢
The modification they would have to make to the truck would take away for what it was made for. Plus you would be adding another 10 to 15k to the price
Not to mention how you're at the mercy of all of that technology. If any piece of it goes wrong it could strand you or leave important functions of your truck inoperable. And that stuff is not cheap to replace.
I recently thought about this because my 2010 Ram RT has a couple useless holes I believe those symmetrical holes are for the right hand drive vehicles made overseas
The Gen1 Raptor does have the Aux switches...unless that one was for some reason ordered without it...which im not sure was even an option to not have.
You can throw in the reliability argument also. The EcoBoost is known for timing chain issues and turbo issues. The 6.2 isn't really known for any issues.
I know this is totally off topic. Just about the interior of your Raptor Mike. I love trucks as well. You know one truck I still like, the Nissan Frontier Pro X4. Basic, but functional. It's like going back into time. I believe your Duramax is a 2005. First year of the current generation Frontier. Just interesting as you say how interiors of trucks have evolved. Love the channel, love the new addition. 😃👌😃
Go with the blue one, it has a bigger engine and less crap that can break in the future. Plus you still can't beat how sick the blue looks on that truck.
Look at Mike getting all cinematic with the camera shots. Now all we need are a couple Michael Bay explosions!!
What was twice as funny was when you could see his reflection in the mirror of the truck while he was getting the one slo-mo pan shot, which made it obvious he was doing voice-over at that point. Then you could see his reflection in the nav screen at another point making it obvious he was talking on-camera about the symmetrical center stack.
The 6.2L V8 is the way to go!!! Screw the EcoBoost...👌
no full size truck should be using a v6.
That’s why he should get a H1 forget the raptor
With ecoboost you either get eco or boost depending on the vehicle.
So screw the ford GT huh? The GT, Raptor and Police Interceptor all share the same engine. The only difference in the engine is the cams an tunes. Now you seem to fail to realize boost is the replacement for displacement. That way you can still have power an fuel economy which everyone wants.
@@tmrdarkstar85 So the best option is buy the old Raptor with the 6.2 V8 and put twin turbos to put the little V6 to shame in the New Raptor. Problem Solved. If you want fuel economy don't buy a Raptor to begin with.
Low Quality Squad! Oh wait, that's just his GoPro LOL
JW Montoya i thought it was my wifi for a cool second 😂😂
You realize you can switch it to 720p60 right?
lets be real he needs to upgrade at 100k
Dude bought a zr1,570,720s with a go pro. Jokes on you
@@ILOVESQUATS exactly he can afford a better camera for his viewers.
The new one is better in every single way except the fact that it has a v6. If they really wanted the new one to live up to the raptor name, should have made a twin turbo V8! How sick of a truck would that be!
Manveer Singh lmfao it would get like 7 Miles to the gallon 😂
chris kary if it was run W.O.T all the time...
Would have been so sick but v6 engines put out the most power. Look at formula 1
@@ArcticAutoWerks they dont use V6s because they make the most power, they use them because those are the rules of Formula 1
@@alexbarn3841 no not correct. They have tried every engine. Even the v12s. And this year they have ran the fastest track records at every track with the turbo v6. Explain that...
That tiger print on the 2019 Raptor looks awful
I agree with Dis dude.
Disagree.
correct
Wa I saying
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Fun Fact about the Gauge Cluster for the first Gen Raptors: before you start the truck hold the okay button on the left of the steering wheel controls for 3-5 seconds and you enter "engineering mode". you can scroll through different options and one option is a digital Speedometer!!! so nice to have a digital speedo
Was that a black 2500 hd In the Driveway in the back up camera???
ssshhhhh....
Yup
It's a high country
He did say he was gonna buy the new 2500
Yup
I will answer that V8 > V6
Nah boost >>
Or... performance > sound
Why does it matter if your getting better performance
@@dragonnight5555 the whole point of the truck, its a performance truck duh
Rumor around my local Ford dealerships is they will have a V8 option next year for the Raptor.
Get the old v8 with a 2019 front end conversion
James Bono in no way would this be possible
What the hell?
@@chevyfan029 I believe fiberwerx makes a fiberglass body kit front and rear
chevyfan029 nothing is impossible. i know somebody who did this with the newer tacoma. money talks.
Itd prob just be easier to swap the 6.2 v8 into the new one lol
the new raptor is crazy capable, but there's a reason Hennessy will now do a v8 swapped gen2 raptor. old raptor for sure, just supercharge it, long travel suspension, you're good to go.
Hennessy also does eco boost Raptors. Some people just like the sound of a V8.
The old raptor actually has a V8....
Also best intro ever
What no crappy sound clip of the EcoBoost
My great uncle has a 2011 ford raptor with a whipple supercharger. That thing pulls!
the new one might be more tunable than the old one but the v8 is still better
A supercharger and a haltech or something similar will fix that
The Ford GT has the same engine.
basshead and the Ford gt is slow as shit compared to other super cars
The new one is better! Buy the new one!
@@basshead. no bro Ford GT Mustang has a v8 engine there is also a Shelby GT350 AND there is an EcoBoost Mustang and the brand new Shebly GT500 aslo the super snake all of em have v8 engines except that EcoBoost Mustang
Anyone else notice the midnight addition Silverado at 17:33?
kyle burrow haha you ruined tomorrow’s upload 😂
Edition
Sure did
Cant even spell edition
Glad I got to see these videos before I buy a 2014 raptor, definately going for it
I just bought a 2012 Raptor with no miles on it and I love it wouldn’t get the Raptor with the eco boost. Little compartment holds your business cards 6.2 supercharged is insane
i like it! I've always wanted the "old" Raptor myself to be honest.
I would love to see the raptors engine get a big upgrade like a supercharger or something.
Thats the baja raptor
Livernois Performance does all kinds of awesome upgrades to that 6.2, including cams and superchargers. They sound MEAN with a set of cams and an exhaust!
Hennessy velociraptor
I always wondered what Mike sounded like when he went through puberty.
Can’t wait to see your bankruptcy video
I absolutely love the "old" raptor. It's definitely a truck I plan on getting in the future
I got confused and thought you were doing a quad review 😂
4ft tall little person subscriber here. It’s an odd case being there’s way more tall people than dwarves like me but that tail gate on the new raptor would be a dream.
Hey mike. Love the truck content. I would love to see a 2020 gmc 2500hd AT4 build. And maybe hear it more towards off-road with fatter tires out the smaller rims and leave the dirty ax as the more street version. If anything I’d love to hear your opinion on the new gmcs
When your off road thrashing it your not going to care what the infotainment system is doing, however you will care about hearing a nice v8 rumble. 6.2 for the win. One thing you forgot to mention is the newer one has a stiffer frame, witch I wouldn't mind having! There both awesome!
The only problem i remember about the old one is that the frame is easily bent off reading and hitting jumps so you need to find a way to reinforce the frame
Yup
Definitely false. Any Raptor guy on here will tell you the same thing.
@@dancarlos1216 same thing is happening with the zr2 now. Same issue the raptors were getting. People had more money than brains and jumped the hell out of it.
Nick Tholl I’ve jumped my first gen Raptor quite a few times and even hit bump stops once, key is making sure the truck jumps and lands evenly. You can’t just see a spot and jump the hell out of it. You have to run it a few times, hence why the big boy trucks use prerunners to get coordinates and key terrain areas.
the little compartment under the 12v is where i let my blunts dry after i roll them 👍🏼🤙🏼
They should put the new 7.3 gas in the upcoming raptors
I liked this before the video even started. Then the helium intro was just the icing on the cake 😂
Keep the older Raptor🙏👀💨💨💨
I like them both, but if I had to choose, old school is the way to go!!!
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I use the small rectangle box in my 2013 F-150 for business cards since I work in construction. But I guess you can use it for situations haha
It is the perfect place for a gate remote
Keep the old one
Little square under the 12volt plug fits a dip can perfectly, I have an Ecoboost 2011 and I am enjoying it.
Actually such a sick video. Definitely get the older v8 tho
The " Quarter coin cutout " is for right hand drive conversations for us Australian's 👍
Get a new one and swap a mustang v8 into it then build the hell outta it
That wat to much work for a shitty ass ford sorry bro 😁😂
The 5.0 Coyote engine isn't designed for towing and low end torque so unless he plans on never pulling anything that would be stupid.
Douglas Forsyth you’re kidding right? The coyote is offered in the f150 and is used to tow.
@@paulchaffins2489 bro no wonder stangs are so slow
@@dfor you are joking right. 2018 F150 with 5.0L coyote can tow up to 12,500lbs
*"Like the peasant that you are"😁😁😁. I'M WEAK*
Lol
Vette giveaway update?
The eco boost is badass and very respectable.
Personally I don’t like push button start.
Bill Johnson nice name my names billy johnson 🤙🏼
Me either. Big theft problem
Hate them due to theft
billybuilds Thanks
turbanwearersblow not really most push start require you to insert the key or press the push button start with the key to drive it
Definitely choose the old 6.2L v8, wish the new Raptors still had a v8 option because nothing beats the noise of a v8, and with just a few mods that v8 can be kicking the eco boosts a$$ in a race, definitely think you should buy the raptor Mike, would love the content and I would love a raptor build, maybe long tubes, super charger or pro charger and a shift kit would love to see
Shift kit in this beast would easily whoop that eco boost👍 v8 power
What wheels are on your truck and what were your old ones
The Duramax? Fuel Forged FF19 in 22x14 on a 375/55/22 Toyo open country M/T
Street Speed 717 yes thank you
The black square on the inside of the old interior is for an outlet, there is an optional full whatever amp outlet you can plug things into
You can upgrade to sync 3 watch Mike's channel autovlog
Two beautiful trucks , but I’m old school and I like my old “ truck “ amenities . Butterfly windows , rubber flooring , manual hubs , single cab etc etc etc . Great video and thanks for sharing . Cheers
Its a truck ! It's not supposed to be luxurious. For myself I would keep the older version.
If you want something that isnt luxurious and an off road beast, get a old Bronco
Both of these are luxury.
Gen 1 has the (4) auxilliary switches standard and did offer the tailgate step, remote start, etc as options. The smaller 5.4 was only available for 2010. As for the bumper mounted fog/auxilliary LEDs, they are not standard on either truck.
Does anyone here remember the hellcat? Or was that the during renaissance period
and doug demuro almost spun out with it and that was epic
@@munin9530 yeah lol
I do
First gen all day!! Not even a Ford guy, but V8 Raptors are sick
Buy the New one... Apart from the sound... The new one is better in every single way
efrain kennedy not reliability or durability, steel gen one with a 6.2 all the way
I like the looks of the new raptor but I like the v8 of the old one
I use that random black hole for business cards
All Hail and Long Live The Mighty 6.2 Raptors!!
Dougspeed 717
You know Mike, this was a solid review/comparison. Voicing is good. Pacing is good. You point out interesting and relevant things. Camera work is exceptional. I’d love to see more of this type of content! Maybe you’ll carve into Doug’s demuros market 😎
I say buy the new gmc at4 I love that thing with the 6.2
Those are pretty sweet but don’t quite compare to a raptor
SS King you right but they a lot cheaper and to me look better just opinion
@@carsondinning4354 um they are not cheaper they accually cost more
LHFishing&more no they are cheaper, at4 starts at 50k, raptor starts at 52k
LHFishing&more the raptor that he is looking at is a lot more expensive than a at4 that raptor probably around 70,000
That little storage square below the 12V is where the 110V power outlet would be, if they would have optioned that out. The truck comes with a storage square on the left too, if you don't get the tow package.
Call me old fashioned, but all this technology takes away from the true driving experience. When i drive my 1972 chevelle its me and my big block 572 that is straight piped. Thats all you need
Spot on and you wouldn't be afraid to use it as a truck! Oh and it's half the money as a new one and can still have a bumper to bumper for years!!!
I do have a truck. I am also a mechanic
Imagine the new raptor tailgate didnt have soft open. Someone walks by your truck and the tailgate randomly violently falls open scaring people walking by as you sit in the cab and laugh
The raptors wrap looks like someone shit on it
Cool Guy I bet your drunk pops shit on you as a kid
I'll get criticized here , but I own a 2013 f350 and use the step all the time when I'm loading alone. Tossing bags of seed/feed/dirt only works so well for utilizing every inch of the bed. The the step I can have 2 bags on my shoulder and walk up into the bed
Who's birthday? Michael HY$$ONGS birthday isn't until February 23.
who's that?
Mike
One of the best comparisons out there on UA-cam.
Well, I think that the "older" raptor is definitely the better one to keep, in fact it has the v8 in it. While yes, you can get the same amount of performance out of the v6 if you put a supercharger or turbo or whatever on the v8 you will get so much more out of it than possible in the v6.
At time mark 12:00 you can add more oem upfitter switches in that pocket. I installed some in my 2010 f150 platinum. you can use it as a pocket to throw stuff in there but I utilize it for upfitter switches.
I like the V8 version more than the V6 version even if it has turbos and in my opinion the 2014 Raptor looks better
Jaggsta exactly why the older model is a better choice idk why they though going V6 ecoboost was suck a good idea it ruined the truck
@@jeremiahramirez9897 a supercharged 6.2 would have been a great decision, instead of the turbo V6
Ricardo The PC Wizard exactly plus they sound better, im not a big ford guy but i would definitely own a 2014 Raptor with the 6.2L
100% agree
New one is so sexy looking, prefer the V8 over the ecoboost though. I do get that some people might prefer the older one, I got myself a low mileage 2011 Dodge Challenger over a new style 2015+ because I prefer the simpler setup old ones vs the high tech feel of the new ones.
The little hole is for cigarettes in our family lol
That's what I said lmao!
Aha word thats the smoke pack holder
I’d get a 2019 raptor but with key entry, u put into ON, wait few sec to get the fuel pump go on and then start it, much easier on the engine and gets all engine parts going, always done it
With push button u don’t have much control over starting system
Bout time you got a real mans truck Mike
Audio sounded really good in this vid. Don't know why but. It sounded crisp and clear.
Chipmunk Mike
Mike you are right around 12 mins in that the dash is symmetrical. It lowers production costs for right hand drive models in other countries. Not everything is going to be reversible but they're going to make as much as possible. Less R&D and variant manufacturing.
Buy a old one more parts for when it breaks
HAHAHAHAHA
But of course the better option is to go get a new duramax
Buy a new one, cost 2x more for parts when it breaks
HAHAHAHA
Sounds like Parker with the helium! 🤣
Buy that raptor mike!
Both trucks are awesome! I choose my 2020 gen2 and I love everything about it. I'm a Subaru technician so I've come up around turbo cars. Definitely enjoy my truck.
Buy a new one mike
how wide r the bodys now of the ford's...... the raptor
s vs the f-150 or f-250 & the f-350........... how wide r all rigs here outside tire to outside tire front & back ( ALL FACTORY ONES ONLY PLZZZ ).........??????
Dude your voice
I have a 2013 F150 FX4, had it since new. You're right with the sync, you have to push the screen kind of hard. Mine is also that way and has been that way since I purchased it.
I love everything about the new Raptor except the motor Why didn't Ford just throw a turbo or a procharger or a supercharger on the V8 it's a truck I don't want a V6 in my truck even if it's faster the exhaust note doesn't match the truck🤔🤨😖😔😢
The modification they would have to make to the truck would take away for what it was made for. Plus you would be adding another 10 to 15k to the price
That new Silverado sitting over there is bad ass
Buy a new one
Mike you did a great job on this truck comparison you should do more with this type of style
I'd go for the older 1 all the new technology coming out is making people lazy
Not to mention how you're at the mercy of all of that technology. If any piece of it goes wrong it could strand you or leave important functions of your truck inoperable. And that stuff is not cheap to replace.
I'm with ya and if you cant backup a trailer you don't need to be pulling one.
I recently thought about this because my 2010 Ram RT has a couple useless holes
I believe those symmetrical holes are for the right hand drive vehicles made overseas
First!
My dad puts trident chewing gum in the little cubby in his f150 work truck😂
The Gen1 Raptor does have the Aux switches...unless that one was for some reason ordered without it...which im not sure was even an option to not have.
You sounded like a radio dj on that helium lol
You can throw in the reliability argument also. The EcoBoost is known for timing chain issues and turbo issues. The 6.2 isn't really known for any issues.
the difference from my grandfathers '94 sierra and his '03 Silverado was a very big upgrade for 9 years in my opinion.
I know this is totally off topic. Just about the interior of your Raptor Mike. I love trucks as well. You know one truck I still like, the Nissan Frontier Pro X4. Basic, but functional. It's like going back into time. I believe your Duramax is a 2005. First year of the current generation Frontier. Just interesting as you say how interiors of trucks have evolved. Love the channel, love the new addition. 😃👌😃
Go with the blue one, it has a bigger engine and less crap that can break in the future. Plus you still can't beat how sick the blue looks on that truck.
does the 2019 come with a box of tampons