Orchestral Samples - The RIGHT way to use legato

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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    Day 3 of our 5 day FREE youtube course. When is the right time to use legato and how do you do it? How do you make orchestral samples sound more realistic? Can an orchestral sample library give real emotion to the music? In this five part series, composer Guy Michelmlore gives you a quick insight into the essential orchestral programming secrets with this FREE 5 day course.
    Day 1: Articulations and Keyswitches
    Day 2: Dynamics and Controllers
    Day 3: Legato
    Day 4: Section Size
    Day 5: Rooms, Ambience and Reverb

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  • @ThinkSpaceEducation
    @ThinkSpaceEducation  3 роки тому +10

    Want to know more? Then download our free Orchestral Programming Guide
    thinkspaceeducation.com/signup/orchestral-programming/

    • @BossLevelAudio24
      @BossLevelAudio24 3 роки тому +1

      Dear Guy. Could you please stop posting all this helpful musical information!! Claire Fitch wants my presentation by 5 o'clock tomorrow and you're distracting me!

  • @MrPetterFahlstrom
    @MrPetterFahlstrom 3 роки тому +26

    Just to mention; it is *very* likely that a musician would switch between legato and other techniques in the same bar. E.g. don’t “just” switch articulations in between motifs; find how different articulations best supplement each other in a single motif. Feel it - it’s really the only way.

  • @megorra
    @megorra 3 роки тому +37

    Once again, I'm educated and inspired. As an amateur musician (playing for fun - really) these little tips are invaluable. Thanks again Guy :).

  • @edelcorrallira
    @edelcorrallira 3 роки тому +19

    As a Spanish speaker I always thought of legato as ZeCat ...
    Jokes aside, great series, great channel !!!

  • @egxonshabani2645
    @egxonshabani2645 3 роки тому +7

    Your positivity is contagious. Thank you for your awesome tutorials!

  • @EmilMarlindMusic
    @EmilMarlindMusic Рік тому +1

    Cant stress enough how much I love your energy and your educational videos. I've learned so so so so much from you and I wouldn't even be near as good as I am today if it wasn't for you. Thank you Guy.

  • @b3owu1f
    @b3owu1f 3 роки тому +3

    Guy, you are an inspiration my man. As a guy nearing 50, who still has no clue how to play, but loves to try to create cinematic trailer like music and edm (what a combo), I figured being older, my days are over. I am waiting on a new MK3 NI keyboard to drop (since MK2 has been out > 3 years and they seem to drop one every 3 years or so), so stuck with the M32 for now, but am trying to work my way through figuring out the Spitfire Audio Abbey road pack and eric whitacre choir along with Komplete 13 (cheaper one) and a couple other VSTs... you may have done a video on this previously, but man I would love to see you go over how you get creative with so many sounds/libraries at your disposal. Before.. I had some cheap free stuff so not enough. I took the plunge and spent the money (and probably still want some more sounds) to finally have some sounds to work with and now I am overwhelmed with trying to find the right sound. I use the M32 to navigate through Komplete Kontrol, but still there are so so many sounds.. good thing to have, but as you go through these courses, about Legato, etc.. how do you know which one works and which one doesnt for something like Legato? Did you just spend hours and hours going through sounds and eventually remembering which instrument of which library has legato working right vs those that are just minimal sampling per instrument and don't work right? Anyway.. love your videos and your approach to your channel.

    • @thesoundvault508
      @thesoundvault508 3 роки тому

      How goes it now bro? Still making music? I'd love to hear what you make as an EDM orchestral trailer hit thatd be fresh as fuck 🔥

    • @thesoundvault508
      @thesoundvault508 3 роки тому

      I subbed and hit the bell in case you upload something 👌

  • @christiaantinga
    @christiaantinga 3 роки тому +2

    Guy, thank you for this legato bit. I always do my best to imagine the real player. If it was on me; I'd have all those real orchestral players working for me. But as long as that won't happen, I have to stick to the sample libraries ;)

  •  3 роки тому

    A great tip for working with legato and any wind or brass instrument is to exhale as you're entering the notes on your keyboard. Lung powered instruments can only have legatos as long as the amount of air the player can exhale in one go, after all.

  • @ryansarvak4172
    @ryansarvak4172 3 роки тому +1

    I make music inspired by the electronic scene, but have really come to appreciate orchestral sound and composition, implementing elements of it into my music now due to your channel! Got the east west collection over Black Friday

  • @lughar
    @lughar 3 роки тому +1

    Best video of the series in my opinion

  • @TheUrbanistic
    @TheUrbanistic 2 роки тому

    This Guy has amazing personality and great music capacity !!!! Respect +1

  • @imagesofstyle
    @imagesofstyle 3 роки тому

    You just made sense of the insistence on bundling samples in dedicated plugins, instead of just giving us the files in a standard form. Nice!

  • @dougkuony5309
    @dougkuony5309 3 роки тому +3

    I've really been enjoying this series. Learned so much. Thank you for putting this together!

  • @Limbiclesion
    @Limbiclesion 3 роки тому

    It’s so great you focused on legato articulation In this tutorial as it’s my favorite articulation and possibly the most difficult to capture.For piano strings and brass... In my world it’s the secret juice that lends beauty or grace to a composition . Doing the grades on piano I wasn’t allowed to deviate from the expression as dictated by the music score ....allegro etc. .. stuff that ... and so with respect to the genre and appropriately I developed a legattoesk right hand for the pieces which pleased me and actually pleased some of the examiners ....beauty moves most folks ..
    One thing that people could do in exploring the possibilities of the legato articulation is to find a pal who plays violin , or cello or trumpet or piano ..etc. and hear live what legato expression is...or listen to adagio for strings by Barber with a beer or glass of Vimto
    Yours for articulation Limbic 🎶🎶🙏🎩

  • @chrismoule7242
    @chrismoule7242 3 роки тому +2

    There is a fine line between legato & portamento, and that Cinematic Studio Solo Strings setting is on the wrong side of it, in my humble view as a string player.

    • @anatomicallymodernhuman5175
      @anatomicallymodernhuman5175 3 роки тому

      I would pay Spitfire for a BBC SO update that had separate legato and portamento string articulations. Or key switches to choose which transition to use between the next notes or something.

  • @GavinNellist
    @GavinNellist 10 місяців тому

    That plane was actually flying over in the right key :)

  • @jps1812
    @jps1812 3 роки тому +1

    Great job as usual ! I’d love to see you testing the new Realivox Sunset strings : might be surprising...

  • @ZacStaylon
    @ZacStaylon 3 роки тому

    Bless this young lad! Thank you for everything Master Michlemore🙏❤

  • @BrennansMusic
    @BrennansMusic 3 роки тому

    Thanks again for helping me with my track merging issue.

  • @paul_henderson
    @paul_henderson 3 роки тому

    Legato is awesome for slower stuff or building backgrounds and staccato - perfect for some fast paced action in the first plan but both legato and staccato should be combined in terms of leitmotifs

  • @borregof
    @borregof 3 роки тому

    Sir, you are absolutely amazing! Thank you so much for your videos. I am truly grateful, inspired and learning so much from you!

  • @ronnyb5890
    @ronnyb5890 3 роки тому

    legato's are great for long emotional passages,dont use it much in fast passages,today i bought the pricy symphonic choirs from eastwest,but i needed female, male, and a boys choir with a wordbuilder,now i can create sentences that make some sense instaid of some sylables yeahh lol

  • @LindaMissad
    @LindaMissad 3 роки тому

    So helpful, Guy, thanks as always for your unique incites.

  • @Niowiad
    @Niowiad 3 роки тому +1

    07:18 some brave company should sample that as a true legato transition

  • @alexgerlach5630
    @alexgerlach5630 3 роки тому

    Thanks..this is really helpful :)

  • @evanlane1690
    @evanlane1690 3 роки тому +1

    "Players, especially brass players will go, 'baaaah BUUUHM'."
    It was a totally innocent statement, so why do I feel personally attacked? 🤣

  • @Amzegal
    @Amzegal 3 роки тому +2

    This is incredibly helpful Guy thank you so much. I've been using Spitfire BBC Discovery thanks to you. It's great but I miss articulations, control on decay and sustain and legato... What library would you advice as a starter in the more advanced orchestration world? Preferably the cheapest 😅

    • @ThinkSpaceEducation
      @ThinkSpaceEducation  3 роки тому +2

      Well BBC SO Core is the best value in town at the moment

    • @Amzegal
      @Amzegal 3 роки тому +1

      @@ThinkSpaceEducation thank you so much you're the best Guy I know ahah

  • @Nicoladen1
    @Nicoladen1 3 роки тому

    Guy, have you ever tried the Stradivari Violin library for Kontakt, or any of the other instruments included in the Cremona Quartet? They sound phenomenal
    The Stradivari Cello is probably the best sampled cello I've ever heard.

  • @Fortississississimo
    @Fortississississimo 3 роки тому

    Guy, on the subject of bleeding-edge legato sampling, have you by any chance had a play around on Embertone's Joshua Bell Violin? I'd love to see a video of you taming this beautiful beast - though you may need to cast aside the sunglasses of doubt and instead don the Aviators of Brilliance! 👍🏻 🎶

  • @gmaxxbln
    @gmaxxbln 3 роки тому

    Thank You very much for this so cool series of videos!

  • @StrophicValley
    @StrophicValley 3 роки тому

    He's at it again with another amazing video!

  • @emiknits02
    @emiknits02 3 роки тому

    Love your videos, they’ve always been super helpful and inspiring!

  • @jcpmlg2618
    @jcpmlg2618 3 роки тому

    Real honest guru of music 👌

  • @omarsowan4780
    @omarsowan4780 3 роки тому

    What can I say? Brilliant video, and great series!

  • @djfull4442
    @djfull4442 3 роки тому

    4:33 inner schubert unleashed

  • @simonasikainen2461
    @simonasikainen2461 3 роки тому

    Thank you for a great channel and very interesting explanations regarding the handling of various instruments. And it's also great with a little humor in between. I grew up more or less in the concert hall in Stockholm and later Bergwaldhallen when my Dad played Percussion in the Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra. Digital strings have never been my strong point but teach me a lot from your very good explanations. If you do not have the feeling and the dynamics, then it does not matter how good sound bank you have. Have the best and thank you for a great channel. Simon.

  • @alejandronegrin6354
    @alejandronegrin6354 3 роки тому

    Thanks for all this videos

  • @pjdahmen
    @pjdahmen 3 роки тому

    thank you for the great helpful tutorial. Keep up and well done.

  • @Gjushiii
    @Gjushiii 3 роки тому

    i love your videos man your amazing

  • @WindTreeStudios
    @WindTreeStudios 3 роки тому

    Yes!!!

  • @resslerartstudios
    @resslerartstudios 3 роки тому

    Yup...off to play with my legatos

  • @AtomicAudioOfficial
    @AtomicAudioOfficial 3 роки тому

    Am I missing something, Guy? I can't find the option to download the PDF on your website!

  • @MrModez
    @MrModez 3 роки тому +1

    I personally can't wait for Machine Learning based VSTs for the perfect legatos (probably gonna be a norm by the end of 2020's)

  • @robin_miller_music
    @robin_miller_music 3 роки тому

    So with strings that can, effectively, play notes continually without pauses is it harder to work out where to use legatos are where not? Compared with woodwind, for example, where the player has to pause to take a breath (even if very quickly) and therefore at that point it's physically impossible to play a legato?

  • @thewrenchreviews9986
    @thewrenchreviews9986 3 роки тому +1

    Legato, particularly for vocals is kkenly important. For example, the true legato in the Ethera libraries is incredible at doing it right.

    • @ThinkSpaceEducation
      @ThinkSpaceEducation  3 роки тому +1

      Ethera is incredible. zero-g.co.uk/products/ethera-2-0

    • @davmar9923
      @davmar9923 3 роки тому

      I recently purchased Zero-G Etherria Gold 2.5 Vocal Edition and I have to agree. I did have some installation issues but their support was responsive and the problem was solved.

  • @FLH3official
    @FLH3official 3 роки тому

    Oh oh, Guy got the infamous red exclamation mark in his SpitfireAudio player!
    I feel less lonely, suddenly...
    😏
    (BTW the SpitAudio help team is quite efficient, with some emails and maybe some teamviewer sessions it will undoubtfully be fixed)

  • @fredrobinson6733
    @fredrobinson6733 3 роки тому

    Thank you.

  • @jmac2050
    @jmac2050 3 роки тому +2

    Legato Samples explain. what i was looking for..thx

  • @ncmartinez_his
    @ncmartinez_his 3 роки тому

    Hello Guy - do you have a video with the software you use (Cubase?) and your workflow? I am just starting and I am having a hard time stringing all the bits together. I have UVI Falcon, Spitfire Audio, and Cakewalk. (Anyone else know how to Use Falcon with Cakewalk?)

  • @proteus1
    @proteus1 3 роки тому

    So is Vienna better re legato, better than spitfire?

  • @dafingaz
    @dafingaz 3 роки тому

    Nice!

  • @paulmarriott7683
    @paulmarriott7683 3 роки тому

    Think like the instrumentalist....got it. Next on the 2021 education journey.....go chat to instrumentalists about how they play the real thing 👍🏻.

  • @3DPDK
    @3DPDK 3 роки тому

    B♭ tenor sax - how the heck do you make THAT instrument sound real, especially in a jazz setting.

  • @Rockhopper1
    @Rockhopper1 3 роки тому

    Guy. guilty of legato crimes, when writing spiccato i normally layer a legato instrument (solo) on top to get that effect, is that the right thing to do as my spiccato is far to dry at times ?

  • @malcolmbritton33
    @malcolmbritton33 3 роки тому

    It's only a matter of time before that mic of yours is going take a right clattering Guy! When it does, please don't edit it out!! 🤣

  • @alvagoldbook2
    @alvagoldbook2 3 роки тому

    Guy, what keyboard do you use? I want to get started composing but the wife would strangle me if I spent 3 grand on a keyboard.

  • @MichaelWilliams-lb4jg
    @MichaelWilliams-lb4jg 3 роки тому +1

    First B-)

  • @joecantdance494
    @joecantdance494 3 роки тому

    Ahhhhhhhh so that's why legato samples are so expensive!

  • @Stoneeeeemo
    @Stoneeeeemo 3 роки тому

    Bold of you to assume my free orchestra has legato
    At least i dont think it does