Great video, finally someone who has actually played the Xbox games when talking about Rare. :) Some small things: Grant Kirkhope didn't do the soundtrack of Nuts & Bolts alone, but together with Robin Beanland and David Clynick. Beanland did Logbox, Jiggoseum and Terrarium of Terror. Clynick minor things. Chris Tilston said in an Eurogamer interview that Perfect Dark Zero had earned 4x its development costs. (Eurogamer: Ex-Rare devs talk Killer Instinct, Perfect Dark) It was also Rare who wanted to do Kinect and saw it as a great opportunity for the studio.(Eurogamer: Rare and the Rise and Fall of Kinect) Rare had come up with the idea of avatars themselves, interestingly at the same time as Nintendo was working on Mii's. (Kotaku: The Untold Story Of The Xbox 360 Avatars) So it wasn't Microsoft that forced this direction on Rare. Since you mentioned Playtonic: Have you looked at the other studios' games from former Rare developers, like Fashion AR from Fortune Fish (Stamper Brothers) or The Unlikley Legend of Rusty Pup from Gory Detail (Chris Seavor) - to name two of them?
Thank you for enjoying the video, I really didnt know all of those things. Regarding Nuts and Bolts Kirkhope is the only thing people ever talk about when it comes to the soundtrack and every ost I downloaded for this video said: music by Grant Kirkhope so I really thought he was the only one who made that OST. Perfect Dark Zero making some money doesnt surprise me that much seeing as it was a launch title and a shooter which was pretty popular at the time but seeing that game in action I feel like the budget was on the lower side and I still wouldnt call that game a succes when its one of the worst reviewed Rare games but thats just me. Ive seen conflicting reports on who wanted to make the Kinect Sports games. A ton of people left the company after Nuts and Bolts either wanting to do other things or not agreeing with the direction the company was heading. I personally think it wasnt entirely Rare's decision because it doesnt feel like something they would do at all. And the final product really doesnt feel like a Rare game to me. I know about all the other companies ex Rare employees started but since the video was mostly about Rare in their current form I wanted to make the section on where some of the Rare employees are now quick and Playtonic seemed like the best way to do that. Thanks for all the extra info though! You truly are a huge Rare fan, you know so much about these games
Went out to my local retro game store and was looking for rare replay. This video made me want to check out grabbed by the ghoulies. Never knew about rare replay either so im stoked for that. Thx for sharing.
This is one of my favorite comments I've ever received! Thank you so much for giving Grabbed by the Ghoulies a chance and I hope you have a ton of fun with all the other games in Rare Replay! There's a lot of great stuff in there :D
Having these games compiled into one video made me realise how much influence Rare games had on my first impressions with the OG Xbox & the 360. Had played all these besides Nuts & Bolts and Kinect Sports, and they have all aged so well in big part to the art styles. Great vid man, have earned a sub!
Very interesting to hear about Ghoulies and Kameo. I've watched many videos on the "decline" of Rare over the years, but never heard about them before.
This was such a fun watch! Very cool to see how many different genres and styles Rare has tackled, I never realized how versatile their games really are. :)
Great video! Love to see the love for Rare and how their design essence really carried over to the Xbox era. I haven't played these, but when Kinect Sports came out a friend got it and we played it all day, like you said it was wii sports but an actual workout lol. You also really hit the nail on the head with Nuts & Bolts. It would have fit so much better as a Blast Corps or RC Pro Am game.
Thank you so much dude!!!! The Nuts and Bolts segment was pretty difficult to figure out with me wanting to praise it but also acknowledge the major flaw it has so Im really happy to hear you liked that segment :D
As someone who knows little about microsoft consoles i'm looking forward to watching your video and what rare has done since under their ownership . Keep up the great work
great video! ive never heard of most of these games (or played a rare game for that matter) before so its really interesting to hear about less talked about games from influential studios
as someone who never played the banjo kazooie games growing up, i never really understood the hate for nuts and bolts. i thought the art style was a little off-putting at points but i always thought the vehicle mechanic was really unique and interesting, allowing the player to move whatever way they wanted to while allowing them to get creative with their builds. although now, looking back on it, i can definitely understand why fans were upset at the decision to bring back a beloved franchise after an almost decade hiatus, just to have it be something completely different. great video btw !
Thanks! Nuts and Bolts is a pretty great game that kinda shoots itself in the foot a little by being a Banjo game which is a shame. I think people would love it if it was anything but Banjo Kazooie
Ghoulies and Kameo rocks, I don't understand how people don't like a game were the premise is that you are a guy going into a haunted house and elbow dropping every monster, ghost and ghoul you find. And Kameo as well with exploration as well as creative orc torturing, Chilla being the coolest with his ability to carry alive orcs on the icesicles on his back and hold by them their head while using them as clubs or throwing spears.
Hell Yeah!!!! Im super happy to see someone agree! My favorite transformation is probably pummelweed. I just love the idea of this crazy brawling plant
They really should've allowed traditional controls in addition to modern controls on Rare Replay. I remember making it to the Hag 1 in Banjo Tooie and having SO much freakin trouble on xBox.
12:11 This was touched upon with one of Conker’s programmers/voice of Great Mighty Poo, Chris Marlow, in an interview w/Sola and Cola. Microsoft was trying to push the Xbox as a family console and had rules about what they couldn’t say. In terms of raw content, the remake is actually cruder and more violent in a number of instances (mainly in cutscenes). Marlow said they wished they fought harder on the censorship argument, but says it’d be a non-issue if it were made now. 43:46 According to Rare’s “Making of Rare Replay” which was once on their site (though can still be found via the web archive), they couldn’t justify putting both games on there as they weren’t different enough from each other. Ultimately, the orignal multiplayer/more lenient censorship won out. Also OG Xbox emulation wasn’t great on Xbone back then, which is why Ghoulies was made natively for Xbone instead of simply emulated.
Now I only want that Rare Replay updated version for the 40th anniversary that I pitched more haha! Thanks for watching the whole video and giving me that information
Kameo elements of power, perfect dark, and conker are some of my favorit3 games! And sea of thieves is so fun with friends. I always disagreed with the "microsoft ruined rare" narrative you see on the internet. I think that narrative comes from a combo of xbox demographics being older and mostly interested in shooters, as well as people having nostalgia glasses on and being young kids during the n64 days. Great video! Subbed.
Thank you so much! I've always disagreed with the narrative as well which is why I really wanted to make this video. I wanted to do my part in breaking that narrative
this video was so good, it deserves way more views. i watch alot of retro gaming channels and this videos quality and commentary is on par with bigger youtubers. Also love the unusual topic. i didn't even know that rare made anything else on xbox than nuts and bolts and the conker remake. never saw anybody else talk about these games. You are also a very Pleasant host and i liked what you had to say. anyway, i am sure you will get big with these kind of videos, nut sure why this video has so few views. maybe do the thumbnail clickbaitier? would like to see more gaming stuff
I understand the love for RARE, i personal feel the same for CAPCOM when i can play all their games and feel enjoyment from either Killer instict or Street fighter to Donkey kong or megaman, im still starting this video but im looking forward to it. MERRY CHRISTMAS MALL Also I'm PAL so Based rare for making a game that works on PAL consoles lol
@@Mallerd very rare britsh W, Unrelated but I found you over british collecting and I loved it I'm also a fan of collecting plastic. I JUST bought a cool Gameboy player lmao
As someone who first experienced RARE thanks to XBOX 360, this was a great trip down memory lane. Heck, stuff like JETPAC Joyride has been awesome! Though, I will say that I personally love Perfect Dark Zero. It's one of my favorites because of its odd guns, weird story, cheesy lines, and clunky mechanics. Heck, some of those gun mechanics actually do what some developers don't do and make you be a bit more sensitive with your trigger fingers. Like, did you know that you could slap your enemies' guns out of their hands? It's risky as all Hell, but its really fun to steal their gun and use it as a form of revenge. And, with how HUGE the maps are, the game is honestly better played with two players. More enemies come your way, and the objective-based missions work better as a co-operative experience. In addition, the multiplayer gameplay was lots of fun.
If you mean looking at an entire companies output it's a firm "maybe". This video took a lot of time researching, playing the games and editing. It was super worth it because I love how the video turned out but I don't think I have another one of these huge videos in me anytime soon.
Despite the fact that i own rare replay, the only rare game ive properly sat down and played is Goldeneye 007 on my Xbox one due to me being a massive james bond fan seing as the oldest console i have is a ps2 and so i havent really played any old rare games but looks like ill be reinstalling it on my Xbox
You must go back, if you haven't already, to Goldeneye and enjoy it. The XBLA remake is probably the best, albeit unofficial, way to play the game. I hate the controls on Switch/Xbox One, but that cancelled remake is great. I still prefer the original N64 controls, but I would never recommend that as the way for a modern gamer to play it lol
I have played Goldeneye both on original hardware with the N64 controller and on NSO with that N64 NSO controller Nintendo is selling and I found both versions to still not be great. I found the levels too long and a little dull and the objectives where less streamlined then in Perfect Dark. Perfect Dark has some cool personality to it as well which is why I prefer it
@@Mallerd Maybe I'm nostalgia blind. Though I didn't play through it until I was in middle school in 08 so it wasn't too old/dated then. Or maybe I was (and am) a glutton for punishment? Not sure. If I didn't know all the objectives by heart, I might be less into it. But Perfect Dark is absolutely the better game (though I've never actually given it the attention it deserves).
Great video, finally someone who has actually played the Xbox games when talking about Rare. :) Some small things: Grant Kirkhope didn't do the soundtrack of Nuts & Bolts alone, but together with Robin Beanland and David Clynick. Beanland did Logbox, Jiggoseum and Terrarium of Terror. Clynick minor things.
Chris Tilston said in an Eurogamer interview that Perfect Dark Zero had earned 4x its development costs. (Eurogamer: Ex-Rare devs talk Killer Instinct, Perfect Dark)
It was also Rare who wanted to do Kinect and saw it as a great opportunity for the studio.(Eurogamer: Rare and the Rise and Fall of Kinect) Rare had come up with the idea of avatars themselves, interestingly at the same time as Nintendo was working on Mii's. (Kotaku: The Untold Story Of The Xbox 360 Avatars)
So it wasn't Microsoft that forced this direction on Rare. Since you mentioned Playtonic: Have you looked at the other studios' games from former Rare developers, like Fashion AR from Fortune Fish (Stamper Brothers) or The Unlikley Legend of Rusty Pup from Gory Detail (Chris Seavor) - to name two of them?
Thank you for enjoying the video, I really didnt know all of those things. Regarding Nuts and Bolts Kirkhope is the only thing people ever talk about when it comes to the soundtrack and every ost I downloaded for this video said: music by Grant Kirkhope so I really thought he was the only one who made that OST.
Perfect Dark Zero making some money doesnt surprise me that much seeing as it was a launch title and a shooter which was pretty popular at the time but seeing that game in action I feel like the budget was on the lower side and I still wouldnt call that game a succes when its one of the worst reviewed Rare games but thats just me.
Ive seen conflicting reports on who wanted to make the Kinect Sports games. A ton of people left the company after Nuts and Bolts either wanting to do other things or not agreeing with the direction the company was heading. I personally think it wasnt entirely Rare's decision because it doesnt feel like something they would do at all. And the final product really doesnt feel like a Rare game to me.
I know about all the other companies ex Rare employees started but since the video was mostly about Rare in their current form I wanted to make the section on where some of the Rare employees are now quick and Playtonic seemed like the best way to do that.
Thanks for all the extra info though! You truly are a huge Rare fan, you know so much about these games
Thanks for the feature, Mallerd! Enjoyed watching the Nuts & Bolts segment, and look forward to checking out the rest of the video! - Grim
Thank you for letting me use a bit of your awesome builds dude. Your talent and skills with that game are beyond amazing
Went out to my local retro game store and was looking for rare replay. This video made me want to check out grabbed by the ghoulies. Never knew about rare replay either so im stoked for that. Thx for sharing.
This is one of my favorite comments I've ever received! Thank you so much for giving Grabbed by the Ghoulies a chance and I hope you have a ton of fun with all the other games in Rare Replay! There's a lot of great stuff in there :D
Having these games compiled into one video made me realise how much influence Rare games had on my first impressions with the OG Xbox & the 360. Had played all these besides Nuts & Bolts and Kinect Sports, and they have all aged so well in big part to the art styles.
Great vid man, have earned a sub!
Comments like these are what makes making videos worth it to me. Thank you so much!
Very interesting to hear about Ghoulies and Kameo. I've watched many videos on the "decline" of Rare over the years, but never heard about them before.
Ghoulies and Kameo are great!! If you like classic Rare games definitely check them out!!!
Wow dude! What a great video! I'm going to play Grabbed by the Ghoulies right away!
This was such a fun watch! Very cool to see how many different genres and styles Rare has tackled, I never realized how versatile their games really are. :)
Thank you so much for watching the video Annemarie!!! Really cool to hear you enjoy
Great video! Love to see the love for Rare and how their design essence really carried over to the Xbox era. I haven't played these, but when Kinect Sports came out a friend got it and we played it all day, like you said it was wii sports but an actual workout lol. You also really hit the nail on the head with Nuts & Bolts. It would have fit so much better as a Blast Corps or RC Pro Am game.
Thank you so much dude!!!! The Nuts and Bolts segment was pretty difficult to figure out with me wanting to praise it but also acknowledge the major flaw it has so Im really happy to hear you liked that segment :D
As someone who knows little about microsoft consoles i'm looking forward to watching your video and what rare has done since under their ownership . Keep up the great work
I could not have imagined a better first comment on this video then this one. Thank you so so much and enjoy!
great video! ive never heard of most of these games (or played a rare game for that matter) before so its really interesting to hear about less talked about games from influential studios
Hell yeah glad you enjoyed it!!! So many of these games really dont deserve to be as forgotten as they are
how does this only have 3k views, this was a phenomenal video! keep it up bro!
Thank you so much! Its still one of my favorite videos Ive ever made
@@Mallerd Really loving your style and how passionate you are towards xbox.n rare! can't wait for more!
Late, but Grabbed by the Ghoulies is the greatest game ever made.
Its never too late to sing the praises of Ghoulies
Fantastic video. Very much enjoyed this. Thanks 🙏
Thank you for watching it!! :D
as someone who never played the banjo kazooie games growing up, i never really understood the hate for nuts and bolts. i thought the art style was a little off-putting at points but i always thought the vehicle mechanic was really unique and interesting, allowing the player to move whatever way they wanted to while allowing them to get creative with their builds. although now, looking back on it, i can definitely understand why fans were upset at the decision to bring back a beloved franchise after an almost decade hiatus, just to have it be something completely different.
great video btw !
Thanks! Nuts and Bolts is a pretty great game that kinda shoots itself in the foot a little by being a Banjo game which is a shame. I think people would love it if it was anything but Banjo Kazooie
Ghoulies and Kameo rocks, I don't understand how people don't like a game were the premise is that you are a guy going into a haunted house and elbow dropping every monster, ghost and ghoul you find.
And Kameo as well with exploration as well as creative orc torturing, Chilla being the coolest with his ability to carry alive orcs on the icesicles on his back and hold by them their head while using them as clubs or throwing spears.
Hell Yeah!!!! Im super happy to see someone agree! My favorite transformation is probably pummelweed. I just love the idea of this crazy brawling plant
They really should've allowed traditional controls in addition to modern controls on Rare Replay. I remember making it to the Hag 1 in Banjo Tooie and having SO much freakin trouble on xBox.
12:11 This was touched upon with one of Conker’s programmers/voice of Great Mighty Poo, Chris Marlow, in an interview w/Sola and Cola. Microsoft was trying to push the Xbox as a family console and had rules about what they couldn’t say. In terms of raw content, the remake is actually cruder and more violent in a number of instances (mainly in cutscenes). Marlow said they wished they fought harder on the censorship argument, but says it’d be a non-issue if it were made now.
43:46 According to Rare’s “Making of Rare Replay” which was once on their site (though can still be found via the web archive), they couldn’t justify putting both games on there as they weren’t different enough from each other. Ultimately, the orignal multiplayer/more lenient censorship won out. Also OG Xbox emulation wasn’t great on Xbone back then, which is why Ghoulies was made natively for Xbone instead of simply emulated.
Now I only want that Rare Replay updated version for the 40th anniversary that I pitched more haha! Thanks for watching the whole video and giving me that information
@@Mallerd No prob!
Zelda: I like this nuts and bolts thing.
Kameo elements of power, perfect dark, and conker are some of my favorit3 games! And sea of thieves is so fun with friends. I always disagreed with the "microsoft ruined rare" narrative you see on the internet. I think that narrative comes from a combo of xbox demographics being older and mostly interested in shooters, as well as people having nostalgia glasses on and being young kids during the n64 days. Great video! Subbed.
Thank you so much! I've always disagreed with the narrative as well which is why I really wanted to make this video. I wanted to do my part in breaking that narrative
I can't believe Nathaniel Bandy is dead, it's a sad day in America...
Atleast he was still able to tell the world about his favorite game before he died
this video was so good, it deserves way more views. i watch alot of retro gaming channels and this videos quality and commentary is on par with bigger youtubers. Also love the unusual topic. i didn't even know that rare made anything else on xbox than nuts and bolts and the conker remake. never saw anybody else talk about these games. You are also a very Pleasant host and i liked what you had to say. anyway, i am sure you will get big with these kind of videos, nut sure why this video has so few views. maybe do the thumbnail clickbaitier? would like to see more gaming stuff
This is such a lovely comment dude! Really makes my day ❤
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That did happen, we got resident evil 6 lol.
Oh my god you're right
@@Mallerd But great video nonetheless, I’m just finishing it now and subscribed!
I understand the love for RARE, i personal feel the same for CAPCOM when i can play all their games and feel enjoyment from either Killer instict or Street fighter to Donkey kong or megaman, im still starting this video but im looking forward to it.
MERRY CHRISTMAS MALL
Also I'm PAL so Based rare for making a game that works on PAL consoles lol
Rare being a British company was really beneficial for us PAL collectors haha
@@Mallerd very rare britsh W,
Unrelated but I found you over british collecting and I loved it I'm also a fan of collecting plastic. I JUST bought a cool Gameboy player lmao
The 2 Banjo-Kazooie games and Conker were the only 2 Rare games that I've ever played. I rarely played Kinect Sports.
Most of them are worth giving a shot! They are very few games like Rare's games out there
As someone who first experienced RARE thanks to XBOX 360, this was a great trip down memory lane. Heck, stuff like JETPAC Joyride has been awesome! Though, I will say that I personally love Perfect Dark Zero. It's one of my favorites because of its odd guns, weird story, cheesy lines, and clunky mechanics. Heck, some of those gun mechanics actually do what some developers don't do and make you be a bit more sensitive with your trigger fingers. Like, did you know that you could slap your enemies' guns out of their hands? It's risky as all Hell, but its really fun to steal their gun and use it as a form of revenge. And, with how HUGE the maps are, the game is honestly better played with two players. More enemies come your way, and the objective-based missions work better as a co-operative experience. In addition, the multiplayer gameplay was lots of fun.
You honestly make a really good point about the game probably being better played in co-op. That big maps make a lot more sense that way
Jetpac and Jetpack Joyride are two completely different games.
Very entertaining, Can we expect more videos like this from you?
If you mean looking at an entire companies output it's a firm "maybe". This video took a lot of time researching, playing the games and editing. It was super worth it because I love how the video turned out but I don't think I have another one of these huge videos in me anytime soon.
@@Mallerd I didn't necessarily mean that, I meant just in-depth well edited gaming content like your last 3 vids :) I understand it takes time though
@@MusicJunkie37In that case absolutely!
What is your favorite Rare game?
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@@racheltiffany9892 FILLED WITH FUN
Conker: Live and Reloaded
Kameo: elements of power, loved it since it came out.
@@crashbash05hagmain36 Hell Yeah! Such an underrated game!
Microsoft: BUY THEM GUYS!
grabbed by the ghoulies deserved more. loved it as a kid
Absolutely!!! Phenomenal game! Also love to see someone say that with an MGMT profile picture. They're my favorite band
Despite the fact that i own rare replay, the only rare game ive properly sat down and played is Goldeneye 007 on my Xbox one due to me being a massive james bond fan seing as the oldest console i have is a ps2 and so i havent really played any old rare games but looks like ill be reinstalling it on my Xbox
Whooo have fun!! There is some fantastic stuff on Rare Replay
Another Mallerd banger!!
Thanks Evan!
Cool vid bruh
Thanks bruh
You must go back, if you haven't already, to Goldeneye and enjoy it. The XBLA remake is probably the best, albeit unofficial, way to play the game. I hate the controls on Switch/Xbox One, but that cancelled remake is great. I still prefer the original N64 controls, but I would never recommend that as the way for a modern gamer to play it lol
I have played Goldeneye both on original hardware with the N64 controller and on NSO with that N64 NSO controller Nintendo is selling and I found both versions to still not be great. I found the levels too long and a little dull and the objectives where less streamlined then in Perfect Dark. Perfect Dark has some cool personality to it as well which is why I prefer it
@@Mallerd Maybe I'm nostalgia blind. Though I didn't play through it until I was in middle school in 08 so it wasn't too old/dated then. Or maybe I was (and am) a glutton for punishment? Not sure. If I didn't know all the objectives by heart, I might be less into it. But Perfect Dark is absolutely the better game (though I've never actually given it the attention it deserves).
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Hiiiiii remember me ?
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Hate when you cheap xbox goons get goodies
That makes no sense just buy a xbox brokie