Funny they now have to pay a percent their taxes to the queen of England and has been in effect since before the 1800’s 👀 USA is uks bitch we can turn your taxes up hella high.
Its funny how it started with families selling off their daughters to gain a title and in the end a dude comes and says "hard working men make money just for their daughters to toss it across the sea" as if it was the girls decision to who they get married off to, as if he himself didn't marry off his daughter *big face palm*
A lot of these women were daughters of self made millionaires, and these millionaires would not be accepted in the circles of old money. This also had the unfortunate side effect of limiting their business options. So they sold their daughters off to be able to say "if someone we raised could be accepted into the circles of European nobility, then we are good enough to be here." It was reprehensible, as they were selling their daughters, but the tactic often worked. Incidentally, I intend to remain single.
In upper class social circles he was often referred to as 'that bloody American.' He got to run for Prime Minister when the government (elites) realised the public weren't on side with them submitting to Germany. The British public were anti-Nazi but much of the British aristocracy were related to the Germany aristocracy. Churchill was part of a minority in the aristocracy who didn't give two shits about that, he agreed with the average man on the street. Fight the Nazi's. Left to their own devices, the British government would have surrendered except Post-WW1 they had been forced to give the unpropertied the right to vote. Suddenly it mattered what the British public thought. Yes, it took until the blood bath of WW1 for the average Brit to get the right to vote.
@@fightnarcissism7112 She also had an Indian third Great-Grandmother from Surat north of Mumbai. Wealthy Scottish merchant in the 18th century had a child with a wife in India but when he died, his family took his daughter and left the wife in India. The Spencer's all have some South Asian ancestry, including William, Harry, and their kids.
@@runningfromabear8354 The 1918 Voting Rights Act extended the vote to men over twenty one (even when they didn't own property, good gracious), and women over thirty. Women over twenty one had to wait another ten years.
My great grandmother once said, "Marry for money, not love. Love fades, but properly-invested money lasts your whole life." She married a wheat farmer, so I'm not sure she actually believed her own advice!
Maybe your grandma was giving advice based on her life choices. She probably regret marrying for love and was warning you to not follow in her footsteps.
Poor people often give advice like this because they are busy looking at rich people thinking they are any happier. The truth is they are not and sometimes are more miserable and unhappy than poor families. This doesn't mean there aren't rich people who are happy but poor people who are busy fantasizing about being rich instead of appreciating what they have give advice based in their fantasies instead of appreciating the good life they had/have.
I think eating wheat grown by your man is much better than ending up with someone "powerful" like Adolf hitler. We all know the tragic ending of the latter's lover.
@@MOTIVATIONBYDAR The fact that you wrote "instead of appreciating what they have" about poor people, indicates that you don't have enough knowledge of being poor, to make the statement you made.
@crush broke He kept a roof over our head and food on the table. We had everything we needed but love and family was the most important. Taught us life is more than material things.
@crush broke My dad was a master chef but he lost the use of his hands and was disabled. We were lucky enough my mom could stay home for our early years. She had to go to work when my dad couldn’t no more.
@@saltymcsaltface But often times men married a rich women and did not love them and treated him like crap same stuff that was on today they both use each other people don’t know what love is anymore
@@saltymcsaltface It was also harder to get out of an abusive relationship because women were essentially dependent on their men for money and an unmarried or divorced woman was shamed and outcasted by society. And that’s for the women who are able to marry rich - a lot of women weren’t able to marry rich, and got stuck in poverty with their husband without a chance of escape because divorce was frowned upon and illegal in some places. Times weren’t simpler, just different. Now, women have to work harder, but they get treated a lot more equally and get more opportunities.
I was able to tour the marble house in Newport RI a few years ago. The house belonged to Consuelo Vanderbilt and her family. During the tour they mentioned how her mother put so much focus on getting her prepared to marry royalty starting from a young age.
Wonderful tour. I did the 5 mansion tour two years ago and well worth it. If anyone goes to Newport do the mansion tours but also assure you do the cliff walk, it’s an amazing hike/walk.
There are women who still do this to their daughters and that makes me so sad. If I had a daughter I would put her in the best school I could afford and spend money to let her enjoy hobbies and interests as much as possible.
I definitely married for love. We were so broke back then, paying off student loans, renting his grandmother's cottage. And all these years (41) later he's still the love of my life.
Actually the original use of the word WAS in reference to men, then it became gender neutral, then it became associated with women. Same thing happened with heels as well.
British nobles give their title in exchange of money, Rich americans give their daughter in exchange of a title. The poor bride gets stuck with a mocking nickname. Right. Sounds fair. -_-
@gerard dearie actually it was surprisingly okay to make your daughter wed at gunpoint pretty much/ threat of loss of life, back then, you see women were a form of property even to parents. Which is why it would be so strange that women could even do things like join Parliament because with the attitudes at the time it was like them saying "ah yes this one is the exception to the rule" which could be perceived as both flattery and an insult to an entire gender.....soooooo
@@edwinholcombe2741 I agree, Edwin. Life is way better now for the middle classes even compared with the aristocracy back then. Hans Rosling's book "Factfulness" astonished me with the improvements we have made. www.gapminder.org/factfulness/
The only thing better is to be with your true love, the tiger you fucked 😂 (This is a reference to Guard #3’s name and pic for the uninitiated so nobody thinks I’m actually suggesting bestiality lol
*American men force their daughters into mariages for titles* Frank Work : « The men work hard for their money and their daughters toss it to foreigners » The blame for men’s actions is, as always, placed on women
not only did they save the mansions and estates , they probably saved the Gene pool cutting down on the inbreeding , but even though they saved the day at the time , today many of the aristocrats are in financial difficulties as the upkeep of a mansion and grounds are crippling ,mostly the only ones that are doing ok are the ones that put them into heritage trusts decades ago or ones that never had an estate
I think she means how a very popular ex President of the United States has said those exact same words, lol. "A small allowance of one million dollars"
Churchill isn't thought to have another father. His parents had a long engagement and it was noted that he and his brother both looked like his father. He was just conceived before they married.
They're the Million Dollar Princesses. Elizabeth McGovern, the actress who played Cora on Downton Abbey, did a series of documentaries for the Smithsonian Channel about these ladies.
The cheek of Worth - "If it was up to me I'd make this practice a hanging offense" - after doing it himself first. Guy could have taken place in a modern government with that attitude.
@@MsJubjubbird I’m not sure but I believe I saw in a Smithsonian TV series about this subject that his wife orchestrated the marriage (as most of this marriages) and he wasn’t very happy with it from the beginning. I also think she separated and he willed than to get the rest of his fortune his grandchildren had to move back to America and abandon the title.
It's almost as if he were sour that his daughter only managed go snag a baron, while the other girls got counts, and even princes, making their family quite ordinary in comparison.
Stevie...you recognized her too? These princesses probably wished they could be as pretty...sorry but that's the truth (and she was born with a future title).
The girl shown at 8:35 was Gabrielle Ray, an English stage actress and this image is actually from a postcard depicting her in a play called "The Dollar Princess". It also starred Lily Elsie, who made fashion waves in 1906 for her role in The Merry Widow as it helped to popularize the big hats of the day.
My mother once told me that it's just as easy to love a rich girl as a poor one. But, after I had dated two members of families that were among the wealthiest in the world, I learned that it just isn't true. They both lacked empathy for others.
It works the same way inside America as well. Jackie Bouvier was from an "old money" American aristocratic family. Unfortunately, while the family may have been rich in "status," they were "cash" poor, at least relatively speaking. However, Jackie "married well" by becoming the wife of a congressman. That was how she became Jackie Bouvier Kennedy. Five years after her husband was killed, she again "married well" by becoming the wife of a wealthy Greek shipping magnate. That was how she became Jackie Bouvier Kennedy Onassis.
Jennie wasn’t called “Lady Randy” for nothing, she carried on multiple affairs, remarried a man 20yrs her junior and even got a tattoo!! A real badass lady!
@@stevehorspool2969 Yes, but she was a woman living in the early 20th century. For her to do those things was a departure from the oppressive gender norms and quite nearly a political statement. For a man to do those things was typical and expected. They're not comparable in the slightest. If you want to compare genders here, pick a man who flouted the gender norms for men.
I like how you structured this into several smaller bits that kept my attention. Also, I liked your humor too! I have been subscribed for a while to your channel and I feel like this documentary really stood out. Anyway, awesome job during these crazy times and keep up the good work!
I think the most confusing thing about this video is that it's on WEIRD History at all. Families have been marrying their sons and daughters off for benefits for literally hundreds of years. The idea of marrying for romance is a new concept. People marrying off women who might not have liked their spouse because the man was noble? Literally standard practice.
Love your videos!! The part where you mentioned the marriage went unconsummated with the woman who was a lesbian got me thinking how people knew when marriages were officially consummated. Got to googling and THAT is definitely a weird history lmao maybe a good video idea?? Thanks for the knowledge & entertainment!!
@@Justahousewife-10 the family would be on the other room while people smash . but in the Maghreb and turkey men have to bring proof of a consummated marriage to the family. I feel like for most lesbos and gays . it would be smart to camouflage like this since half of the world is super hostile to gayness.
@@stevecarter8810 Well, even that super-eccentric, baby-genital-fixated weirdo "named-but-must-never-be-named," (A.K.A.: ghost-writer/author of the *Bible*) at least straight-up admitted to other gods existing. Which makes the use of the singular proper-noun "God" seem... Peculiar logic.
3:18 Eyes can never lie and Consuelo Vanderbilt eyes looks so sad and depress in this video, its breaks my heart... I am happy she that she divorce her husband...
Hey Cathy Hay has been working on remaking the peacock dress for years now. It’s been a crazy process and Bernadette Banner even got involved at some point.
Man, that's something. Ulysses S. Grant had a daughter who married to a Englishman and their marriage didn't last long. Matchmakers exist? Man, I had no idea! It's like the book in Choices. Only the rich. Also I had no idea that the one of the Dollar Princesses was gay! Man, that's something. Boy.
I saw that ‘Peacock dress’ in person in Kedleston Hall once and it was spectacular. The dress itself notoriously weighs over 4.5kg due to its luxurious materials such as gold and silver threads.
No doubt, but it was mostly an exchange equal on both sides for the families. They each got what they wanted except for the bride, her feelings weren't important, not unusual for the time.
Well, the Europeans were already trading their daughters for titles for generations anyway. It’s just there were a lot more people who could claim to have a tad of noble blood.
This was absolutely brilliant. Well narrated. Brilliant research. Love the connection you all made with then and now. We would love to share this content with our readers as we prepare to share more wedding information with the new movie Gilded Age coming this month.
🤮 that was a bummer. Most Mail to order Hawaiian and Japanese brides (grooms are occasionally included) are in unhappy relationships with their white American mates.
Basically, Cora Crawley from Downton Abbey. She loved Robert, and he sort of loved her, but it was clear that the marriage was very profitable for both. The Levinsons had an Countess in the family, and the Crawleys received loads of money and wealth from the marriage.
Fascinating to think about what would have happened without the infusion of cash. The aristocracy with centuries old properties slowly falling apart. Look what happened in France. So many abandoned former estates. No one can afford the upkeep.
I have read many books and watched many documentaries on this subject and I have never heard them called “Dollar Princesses”. They are referred to as American Princesses.
The composer Maurice Ravel dedicated his piano work "Pavane pour une infante défunte" to the Princesse de Polignac (Winnaretta neé Singer) She held salons attended by many notables in art and music, such as Ravel, Debussy, Stravinsky, the writer Colette, Isadora Duncan and many others.
It's interesting that these self made millionaires mostly had daughters but instead of treating them like blessings,they chose to not empower them in running the family businesses,for example. It's a damn shame. This video also highlights how important it is to be a woman of means. These women lived lives by their own standards and weren't shackled to being stuck in unhappy marriages
My grandmother has been married 3 times, the first 2 were for love. Husband 1 was an abusive alcoholic, husband 2 wound up being our country’s first official serial killer (not USA). Husband 3 was definitely just for convenience since my family’s banking and invention background was now ruined by scandal.
I love the Gilded Age. It was such a fascinating time. While Americans did marry into European continental nobility, the British aristocracy was seen as more exclusive. Therefore, rich Americans were fine with marrying their daughters to British nobles. They both got something out of the deal. Back then, unlike today, titles carried much more dignity, respect, and weight.
11:05 he would have a point if these daughters were doing so independently, as if American millionaires of the 19th century didn’t control their offspring.
Americans to the British in the 1700's: We don't want your taxes
Americans to the British in the 1800's: We want your titles tho...
Funny they now have to pay a percent their taxes to the queen of England and has been in effect since before the 1800’s 👀 USA is uks bitch we can turn your taxes up hella high.
"NO TAXATION WITHOUT CORONATION"
@@tubecat4596 lol None of our taxes go to the Queen. Maybe you're confusing us with Canada?
@@tubecat4596 okay the states history education is fucked but the fuck goin on in yalls curriculum? this shit wrong too
@@fearlesssabertiger Yeah they didn’t teach us shit 👀
Wait, wait wait...it's NOT trendy to dress up like Byzantine Queen Empress Theodora anymore?....I'm embarrassed.
Me too Franky, me too lol 🤦
Oh, so we're not doing that anymore? I am disappointed!
Same ✌
It was the only fans for that time period
I don't let that stop me (Fingering my pearls)!
Wow, men were the original gold diggers.
Oh god, yeah
Its funny how it started with families selling off their daughters to gain a title and in the end a dude comes and says "hard working men make money just for their daughters to toss it across the sea" as if it was the girls decision to who they get married off to, as if he himself didn't marry off his daughter *big face palm*
Well men did do the whole gold digging before children and women were accepted in underground mines......... I'll see myself out
anyone can be a gold digger... no one ever said it was just women
@@justsomehaatonpassingby4488 lol
A lot of these women were daughters of self made millionaires, and these millionaires would not be accepted in the circles of old money. This also had the unfortunate side effect of limiting their business options. So they sold their daughters off to be able to say "if someone we raised could be accepted into the circles of European nobility, then we are good enough to be here." It was reprehensible, as they were selling their daughters, but the tactic often worked.
Incidentally, I intend to remain single.
Lolol
gerard dearie .
People have been selling their daughters against their will for centuries and centuries, it’s not new
🤣Same here
Interesting
"luckily her marriage to prince du Polignac was much happier. Most likely because he was also a homosexual"
AND THEY WERE ROOMMATES
Omg they were roommates 😳
Bisexual roommates?
That's like marrying your best friend. I'll take that over romantic marriage.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's what I would have hoped for back then.
“ Jenny who we are assuming is from the block”
10/10 Best comment on any video
Seriously! 🤣🤣 that’s too funny
Lol underrated comment
😂😂😂
I was thinking the same thing
And she still “Jenny from the block” lol
Huh. I never knew that Winston Churchill’s mother was American. Neat.
In upper class social circles he was often referred to as 'that bloody American.' He got to run for Prime Minister when the government (elites) realised the public weren't on side with them submitting to Germany. The British public were anti-Nazi but much of the British aristocracy were related to the Germany aristocracy. Churchill was part of a minority in the aristocracy who didn't give two shits about that, he agreed with the average man on the street. Fight the Nazi's. Left to their own devices, the British government would have surrendered except Post-WW1 they had been forced to give the unpropertied the right to vote. Suddenly it mattered what the British public thought.
Yes, it took until the blood bath of WW1 for the average Brit to get the right to vote.
I thought that was common knowledge
And Princess Diana had an American great grandmother!! ❤
@@fightnarcissism7112 She also had an Indian third Great-Grandmother from Surat north of Mumbai. Wealthy Scottish merchant in the 18th century had a child with a wife in India but when he died, his family took his daughter and left the wife in India. The Spencer's all have some South Asian ancestry, including William, Harry, and their kids.
@@runningfromabear8354 The 1918 Voting Rights Act extended the vote to men over twenty one (even when they didn't own property, good gracious), and women over thirty. Women over twenty one had to wait another ten years.
In the words of a famous American poet: "they do anything for clout"
New weirdo every week.
‘Hole lotta people need to hear this
Offset!!!
And in the words of my grandfather
An even swap, is no swindle. Lol!
Ahhh, pimping your own daughter for clout
My great grandmother once said, "Marry for money, not love. Love fades, but properly-invested money lasts your whole life."
She married a wheat farmer, so I'm not sure she actually believed her own advice!
Maybe your grandma was giving advice based on her life choices. She probably regret marrying for love and was warning you to not follow in her footsteps.
Poor people often give advice like this because they are busy looking at rich people thinking they are any happier.
The truth is they are not and sometimes are more miserable and unhappy than poor families.
This doesn't mean there aren't rich people who are happy but poor people who are busy fantasizing about being rich instead of appreciating what they have give advice based in their fantasies instead of appreciating the good life they had/have.
I think eating wheat grown by your man is much better than ending up with someone "powerful" like Adolf hitler. We all know the tragic ending of the latter's lover.
@@pallabidutta968 My great grandmother was five years older than Eva Braun but outlived her by almost 50 years. I daresay she made the better choice!
@@MOTIVATIONBYDAR The fact that you wrote "instead of appreciating what they have" about poor people, indicates that you don't have enough knowledge of being poor, to make the statement you made.
My father told my mother that after he died to marry for money because she already married for love.
Awwwwwww
Sounds like legit advice.
@crush broke He kept a roof over our head and food on the table. We had everything we needed but love and family was the most important. Taught us life is more than material things.
@crush broke My dad was a master chef but he lost the use of his hands and was disabled. We were lucky enough my mom could stay home for our early years. She had to go to work when my dad couldn’t no more.
Bold.
When people say they were born into the wrong generation.
it’s so annoying like no kelly you would’ve had no rights but go off
It was a lot simpler for a woman back then, marrying into a wealthy family would be like winning the lottery
I feel displaced
@@saltymcsaltface But often times men married a rich women and did not love them and treated him like crap same stuff that was on today they both use each other people don’t know what love is anymore
@@saltymcsaltface
It was also harder to get out of an abusive relationship because women were essentially dependent on their men for money and an unmarried or divorced woman was shamed and outcasted by society.
And that’s for the women who are able to marry rich - a lot of women weren’t able to marry rich, and got stuck in poverty with their husband without a chance of escape because divorce was frowned upon and illegal in some places.
Times weren’t simpler, just different. Now, women have to work harder, but they get treated a lot more equally and get more opportunities.
I was able to tour the marble house in Newport RI a few years ago. The house belonged to Consuelo Vanderbilt and her family. During the tour they mentioned how her mother put so much focus on getting her prepared to marry royalty starting from a young age.
Wonderful tour. I did the 5 mansion tour two years ago and well worth it. If anyone goes to Newport do the mansion tours but also assure you do the cliff walk, it’s an amazing hike/walk.
@@Lrkjdk the city is beautiful. I went with my grandparents and they took us to the mansions and the cliff-walk
There are women who still do this to their daughters and that makes me so sad. If I had a daughter I would put her in the best school I could afford and spend money to let her enjoy hobbies and interests as much as possible.
Groomed for it.
@@madelineasmr926 yes. It still goes on.
I definitely married for love. We were so broke back then, paying off student loans, renting his grandmother's cottage. And all these years (41) later he's still the love of my life.
That's so sweet ❤❤ That's my husband and I, too, but we're only 8 years in!!
Similar story, but we are only 20 years in. Still happy though!!
That's so wonderful. Enjoy!
💖💖
@@kae9341 Divorced within 8 more.
I swear if I EVER hear a man utter the words “gold digger” again, I shall bring forth a history lesson of epic proportions! 😤
My point same
Actually the original use of the word WAS in reference to men, then it became gender neutral, then it became associated with women. Same thing happened with heels as well.
but why? If someone feels like they have a gold digger in their life how would it help if you explained all this to them?
@@Insanepie because it let's her be able to grandstand
The term is 'fortune hunter' when it's a chap.
British nobles give their title in exchange of money, Rich americans give their daughter in exchange of a title.
The poor bride gets stuck with a mocking nickname. Right. Sounds fair. -_-
For women back then it never was
I think it’s because the rich women married into poor nobility hence “dollar princess”.
@@Nicolewps yep. Get mocked for something they most likely had no or very little control over/aka didn't choose.
@I am a strawberry Yes I was most definitely sarcastic. ;)
@gerard dearie actually it was surprisingly okay to make your daughter wed at gunpoint pretty much/ threat of loss of life, back then, you see women were a form of property even to parents. Which is why it would be so strange that women could even do things like join Parliament because with the attitudes at the time it was like them saying "ah yes this one is the exception to the rule" which could be perceived as both flattery and an insult to an entire gender.....soooooo
Jenny definitely was from the block.
Around and through the block LOL!
Oh to be a rich 1800’s woman in a lavender marriage, and a patron of a the arts.
It's better in some ways but working conditions are deteriorating for many people, creating great stress as they struggle to survive.
I don't know about being rich in the 1800s. Have your heard about the toilets they had back them?
@@edwinholcombe2741 I agree, Edwin. Life is way better now for the middle classes even compared with the aristocracy back then. Hans Rosling's book "Factfulness" astonished me with the improvements we have made. www.gapminder.org/factfulness/
The only thing better is to be with your true love, the tiger you fucked 😂 (This is a reference to Guard #3’s name and pic for the uninitiated so nobody thinks I’m actually suggesting bestiality lol
I can't think of anything better really than being very rich, and then married off to a homosexual guy friend. Especially if we lived in a castle.
Actually does sound totally amazing
Yep. Seems nice.... I'd totally be fine with doing our duty the required amount of times (cause babies) and then have a nice girlfriend / mistress. 😅
and they helped artist!
Bonus he could prolly cook too
Ikr, she was the lucky one
*American men force their daughters into mariages for titles*
Frank Work : « The men work hard for their money and their daughters toss it to foreigners »
The blame for men’s actions is, as always, placed on women
@Christine R horrible assumption that women don’t already.
I noticed that too...
I caught that comment, as well. Like the daughters had any say in the matter.
not only did they save the mansions and estates , they probably saved the Gene pool cutting down on the inbreeding , but even though they saved the day at the time , today many of the aristocrats are in financial difficulties as the upkeep of a mansion and grounds are crippling ,mostly the only ones that are doing ok are the ones that put them into heritage trusts decades ago or ones that never had an estate
Real reason
This is why you have people like Eric Clapton buying up these castles
The English inheritance taxes are crippling which dramatically affected the ability of heirs to maintain the estates.
Is this compassion for people born into wealth? That’s different.
"Living only on a small allowance from his father" the shade!!!
Back in the day some men weren't considered full grown until they married. Their fathers wanted to make sure they married to carry on the "legacy"
I think she means how a very popular ex President of the United States has said those exact same words, lol. "A small allowance of one million dollars"
Churchill isn't thought to have another father. His parents had a long engagement and it was noted that he and his brother both looked like his father. He was just conceived before they married.
Who cares?
Huh, so they were busy before the wedding then, that explain why she gave birth 7 months later
Was t his mother know. To be a tiger in bed hence she didn’t want to wait till marriage to consummate
They're the Million Dollar Princesses. Elizabeth McGovern, the actress who played Cora on Downton Abbey, did a series of documentaries for the Smithsonian Channel about these ladies.
Whats the documentary called?
@@clwdT “Million Dollar American Princesses”
I think they're called dollar princesses because it implies that they're not real aristocracy (a bit cheap)
@@MsJubjubbird Yep, take the money but you get no respect.
Old boy downtown, blew through his family money. Went through his wife's money. wanted cousin matthew's money.........and more.
The cheek of Worth - "If it was up to me I'd make this practice a hanging offense" - after doing it himself first.
Guy could have taken place in a modern government with that attitude.
He was probably fine until his son in law spent all his money at the casino
@@MsJubjubbird I’m not sure but I believe I saw in a Smithsonian TV series about this subject that his wife orchestrated the marriage (as most of this marriages) and he wasn’t very happy with it from the beginning. I also think she separated and he willed than to get the rest of his fortune his grandchildren had to move back to America and abandon the title.
That was Mr Work. Worth was the French couture dress designer. :)
@@Jacques_a_dit That still doesn't justify why he is blaming THE DAUGHTERS who obviously had zero input in marriages.
It's almost as if he were sour that his daughter only managed go snag a baron, while the other girls got counts, and even princes, making their family quite ordinary in comparison.
Why he use a picture of Empress Sisi? She was Bavarian princess before she married the emperor. Definitely not a dollar princess.
Ah I am happy someone else noticed, I was so confused!
I saw that too and came to see if anyone else spotted her!
Also Queen Mary
Stevie...you recognized her too? These princesses probably wished they could be as pretty...sorry but that's the truth (and she was born with a future title).
I know right? That was just odd
The girl shown at 8:35 was Gabrielle Ray, an English stage actress and this image is actually from a postcard depicting her in a play called "The Dollar Princess". It also starred Lily Elsie, who made fashion waves in 1906 for her role in The Merry Widow as it helped to popularize the big hats of the day.
My mother once told me that it's just as easy to love a rich girl as a poor one. But, after I had dated two members of families that were among the wealthiest in the world, I learned that it just isn't true. They both lacked empathy for others.
That's crazy
I have an empathy issue and I've grown up poor so I'm pretty sure you literally just found the wrong people.
@@mocha7707 You're probably right. I grew up with very modest means, too. Empathy for others is important to me.
Me, an American with $3 to my name in 2021:
*You're welcome British aristocracy*
The “Jenny from the Block” line was very well played.
It works the same way inside America as well. Jackie Bouvier was from an "old money" American aristocratic family. Unfortunately, while the family may have been rich in "status," they were "cash" poor, at least relatively speaking. However, Jackie "married well" by becoming the wife of a congressman. That was how she became Jackie Bouvier Kennedy. Five years after her husband was killed, she again "married well" by becoming the wife of a wealthy Greek shipping magnate. That was how she became Jackie Bouvier Kennedy Onassis.
So that was her “skill” 🙄😒
@@InsaneNuYawka she got traded like a crypto actually.
@@PHlophe she could’ve not participated in this lifestyle
@@PHlophe Traded like crypto 🤣🤣🤣
You seem to forget that Jackie's mother remarried to Hugh Auchincloss, who was very wealthy,
At least their parents believed they were worth something.... T_T
Lol
I MEAN UR NOT WRONG-
Ouch
True
True and relatable-
And the British upper class view Americans with disdain yet it took several million American dollars and wives to sustain their way of life. Ironic.
Both looked desperate.
Yea
Jennie wasn’t called “Lady Randy” for nothing, she carried on multiple affairs, remarried a man 20yrs her junior and even got a tattoo!! A real badass lady!
Love Jenny; ahead of her time!
How is she a badass lady
She was gorgeous too
A "badass" or a complete douchebag? If it were a man your outlook would be completely different. 🤢🤮
@@stevehorspool2969 Yes, but she was a woman living in the early 20th century. For her to do those things was a departure from the oppressive gender norms and quite nearly a political statement. For a man to do those things was typical and expected. They're not comparable in the slightest. If you want to compare genders here, pick a man who flouted the gender norms for men.
I like how you structured this into several smaller bits that kept my attention. Also, I liked your humor too! I have been subscribed for a while to your channel and I feel like this documentary really stood out. Anyway, awesome job during these crazy times and keep up the good work!
The peacock dress doesn't actually have feathers on it. The design is gold and silver threads with bead work and beetle wings.
It could also be said as “how British nobility traded titles to pay debts”
I think the most confusing thing about this video is that it's on WEIRD History at all. Families have been marrying their sons and daughters off for benefits for literally hundreds of years. The idea of marrying for romance is a new concept. People marrying off women who might not have liked their spouse because the man was noble? Literally standard practice.
Yeah, it was as stereotypical as a villain living in a castle surrounded by a moat of lava
Exactly why dowries are a thing. And have been for centuries. Females were/are treated as a commodity to be bought and sold.
Exactly marrying for love is an extremely new concept you grow to love the person usually
@@Introvertsan the concept actually isn't that new. But the fact that most of us (in the West, at least) try to do it? Yep, modern.
@@leonamay8776 Yes but it doesn't work obviously as the divorce rates are high with the marrying for love phenomena
Call it what you will .sounds like pimping to me
It was.
True
Love your videos!! The part where you mentioned the marriage went unconsummated with the woman who was a lesbian got me thinking how people knew when marriages were officially consummated. Got to googling and THAT is definitely a weird history lmao maybe a good video idea?? Thanks for the knowledge & entertainment!!
Where is the best place to learn how to tell if marriages were consummated back then?
@@Justahousewife-10 the family would be on the other room while people smash . but in the Maghreb and turkey men have to bring proof of a consummated marriage to the family.
I feel like for most lesbos and gays . it would be smart to camouflage like this since half of the world is super hostile to gayness.
It's actually not strange. We humans have done this shit for thousands of years. It's just part of history we must learn not to repeat.
parents now: I will give you $5.
Parents then: I will give you FOR $5
5...5 dollar foot long.
Hahaha
American parents were saying, "I will give my daughter plus millions of dollars in return for titles."
Nowadays parents readily sell their kids into slavery or organ extraction.
@@Gaga682 That's so horrifically sad.
Ye gods... Consuela was a pretty, pretty lady.
Highly intelligent to boot
Ten points for "Ye gods!"
Holy cow she was indeed GORGEOUS
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The mustachio that Winthrop was sporting in that new-fangled picture-box painting was pretty badass as well.
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Well, even that super-eccentric, baby-genital-fixated weirdo "named-but-must-never-be-named," (A.K.A.: ghost-writer/author of the *Bible*) at least straight-up admitted to other gods existing. Which makes the use of the singular proper-noun "God" seem... Peculiar logic.
I was eating while watching this and almost choked when I heard “Jenny who we are assuming was from the block” lmao 😂
I immediately thought of Cora Crawley, nee Levinson, the Countess of Grantham.
Same!
Me too. I love how Downton Abbey tied this real life trend to their story. Cora being American was perfect.
Me too!
1:03 I LOVE the mention of Theadora! I am fascinated by the story of her life.
I didn't expect the Churchills to be so broke
After being prime minister a second time, he was so broke that his friends bought a house for him and let him live in it for the rest of his life.
America: the world hates us, but loves our money. Biz as usual.
Don't feel too bad - the world hates the UK too.
Arab's blood and oil is US money.
@@salahdin6382 yup
@@salahdin6382 Arab's oil is worthless without US money.
@@neoasura lol believe what you will
Omg!! The Peacock Dress!!! Hats off to Cathy for recreating it currently!
3:18 Eyes can never lie and Consuelo Vanderbilt eyes looks so sad and depress in this video, its breaks my heart... I am happy she that she divorce her husband...
"Why are people so weird in the 21st century"
Meanwhile in the 19th century:
Humans haven't really changed.
People have been at the same level of weirdness since humans were on Earth.
True words
Maybe it's because these people aren't laughing at a head in a toilet and the state of Ohio.
Hey Cathy Hay has been working on remaking the peacock dress for years now. It’s been a crazy process and Bernadette Banner even got involved at some point.
Man, that's something. Ulysses S. Grant had a daughter who married to a Englishman and their marriage didn't last long. Matchmakers exist? Man, I had no idea! It's like the book in Choices. Only the rich. Also I had no idea that the one of the Dollar Princesses was gay! Man, that's something. Boy.
Don't you love this channel!? I learn so much
we are learning something new today ig
@@erinjaegernigeria Winnaretta Singer de Polignac.
I saw that ‘Peacock dress’ in person in Kedleston Hall once and it was spectacular. The dress itself notoriously weighs over 4.5kg due to its luxurious materials such as gold and silver threads.
I love this guy’s voice! Great narration!!
I’ve been reading so many books on this and watching shows about this topic. Excited you covered it!
No doubt, but it was mostly an exchange equal on both sides for the families. They each got what they wanted except for the bride, her feelings weren't important, not unusual for the time.
The peacock dress! I did not know she was a dollar princess, that dress is legend!
There is a woman on UA-cam who is hoping to recreate the "Peacock" dress.
Omg yes I forgot her name she’s trying to do it I can’t wait to see it
@@gabrielladiaz6933 yes, it’s Cathy Hay
Cathy Hay with some help from Bernadette Banner
Cathy Hay! 💖
Yes it would be a dream to see in modern times!
Well, the Europeans were already trading their daughters for titles for generations anyway. It’s just there were a lot more people who could claim to have a tad of noble blood.
The image at 10:41 is not a Dollar Princess. That is the Empress Elisabeth of Austria, nicknamed "Sissi" by her family.
So basically the reason all these English castles didn't get destroyed is bcuz of America. USA! USA! USA
Historical Fashion UA-camr Cathy Hay is recreating the "peacock dress" you should check it out if you're into that kinda thing!
This was absolutely brilliant. Well narrated. Brilliant research. Love the connection you all made with then and now. We would love to share this content with our readers as we prepare to share more wedding information with the new movie Gilded Age coming this month.
Rough for a young innocent girl to be forced to marry for any reason.
1800's: Dollar princess
2000's: Sugar mommy
When you see Mary Leiter and hope there's a Peacock Dress acknowledgement coming....
Have you seen the restoration??? 😍
So many exotic birds went extinct during this horrible lust for feathers.
Love the channel and content. Stay safe and blessed.
This probably inspired the "Mail-To-Order Bride" scheme
🤮 that was a bummer. Most Mail to order Hawaiian and Japanese brides (grooms are occasionally included) are in unhappy relationships with their white American mates.
I love your videos, they are always very informative!
A+ video!
LOVE IT! That is an excellent topic for conversation too!
Basically, Cora Crawley from Downton Abbey. She loved Robert, and he sort of loved her, but it was clear that the marriage was very profitable for both. The Levinsons had an Countess in the family, and the Crawleys received loads of money and wealth from the marriage.
The happy marriage didn’t stop Robert from cheating on Cora Crawler.
It still goes on to this day with child actors
What?
Dolla Dolla, Princesses, Y’all.
The Jenny from the block reference was also on point 😂
i love the young persons guide to the orchestra in the back! one of my favorite pieces to play!
So the movie ”Crimson Peak” is based on this history?
damn you’re making a HELLA good point!!
Omg thank you! I couodnt remember the name!
Oh wow, the Peacock dress was absolutely stunning in it's time - just an aside.
USA and UK had/ have a really strange relationship
"Dolla dolla 👸 y'all" 😂😂😂 that was unexpected but appreciated
This is basically marriage throughout history.
That was so interesting! Thank you!
Fascinating to think about what would have happened without the infusion of cash. The aristocracy with centuries old properties slowly falling apart.
Look what happened in France. So many abandoned former estates. No one can afford the upkeep.
So early I might just sell my kids to celebrate 🥂
Ah, i was thingking the exact same thing myself, cheers! 🥂
cheers
Ayo what the f💥
🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for reminding me why I'm an antinatalist.
"Jenny, who we're assuming was from the block" 🤣
I have read many books and watched many documentaries on this subject and I have never heard them called “Dollar Princesses”. They are referred to as American Princesses.
Sex trafficking is the oldest business deal.
Only love can withstand “forever after”!!
My Grandma always said “Marry for love, but only love where there’s money”.
AAAH PEACOCK DRESS SHOUTOUT
The composer Maurice Ravel dedicated his piano work "Pavane pour une infante défunte" to the Princesse de Polignac (Winnaretta neé Singer) She held salons attended by many notables in art and music, such as Ravel, Debussy, Stravinsky, the writer Colette, Isadora Duncan and many others.
Fabulous voice over!!!
That Jenny from the block joke is the best one I've heard on this channel by far
It's interesting that these self made millionaires mostly had daughters but instead of treating them like blessings,they chose to not empower them in running the family businesses,for example. It's a damn shame.
This video also highlights how important it is to be a woman of means. These women lived lives by their own standards and weren't shackled to being stuck in unhappy marriages
Siphokazi, its old Belungu's Lobola. it got them to places.
Real question is...when are we getting 90s Timeline episodes?!
Love the background music!
Great video!!!!!!!!
My grandmother has been married 3 times, the first 2 were for love. Husband 1 was an abusive alcoholic, husband 2 wound up being our country’s first official serial killer (not USA). Husband 3 was definitely just for convenience since my family’s banking and invention background was now ruined by scandal.
Serial Killer's name please
I love the Gilded Age. It was such a fascinating time. While Americans did marry into European continental nobility, the British aristocracy was seen as more exclusive. Therefore, rich Americans were fine with marrying their daughters to British nobles. They both got something out of the deal. Back then, unlike today, titles carried much more dignity, respect, and weight.
11:05 he would have a point if these daughters were doing so independently, as if American millionaires of the 19th century didn’t control their offspring.
Someone: Money can't buy you class.
Gilded Age Robber Barons: Hold my beer. And this check for ten million dollars.
Amazing video !
... also, there was that 'inbreeding' thing ...