You should check out the great smog of london. Air pollution was so fucking bad that visibility dropped to the point where it was impossible to see more than a few feet away. People died as a result of ambulances not being able to pick people up. Modern environmental regulations exist because we saw what happens when there are no regulations. The victorian era was the age of coal, and it wasn't burned in a clean way.
London Fog was actually made from large brick Kilns called clamps that were literally burned on the road because the country was industrializing so fast that they had to keep making bricks fast as close to the worksite as possible. Check out the BBC documentary Victorian Farm their episode on the brick kiln. Between this and crap tons of industrial smoke from early factories that each had to make their own power. Just taking a single breath outside with a freaking health hazard in London for many years. The belief in women's delicate immune systems and that they had to be kept absolutely pure and therefore kept in the house was especially enforced in London because of this. Because child mortality and death in childbirth were so common they wanted to protect the women as much as absolutely possible so that they could keep having babies. Women were the vessel through which family lines and inheritances like titles could continue and therefore protecting them was the highest social good.
I’ve been to countries where people don’t smile for photos because they want to look natural. It seems like smiling for a photo is something people do when cameras become more common. When photos are rare it’s more formal and a rare opportunity to preserve one’s appearance. Once cameras become common they become more about fun.
@@debbylou5729 I think it's that massive toothy smile showing all of your teeth and pulling your cheeks as far up towards your ears as possible which is being referred to there. A natural smile is fine, but people don't usually go around trying to display every one of their teeth most of the time because it just looks so bloody forced/fake and two dimensional
Smiling just simply wasn't a custom in the early days of photography. Getting your portrait taken was a huge deal, especially if you were poor and it might be the only picture you have taken of you, so you wanted to look your best. Getting a picture taken in the Victorian era was a very solemn and serious occasion. But when cameras started to become smaller, cheaper and more portable, people began lugging them along to picnics and other outings, and soon felt comfortable enough to smile and goof off in front of the camera lens!
Victoria and Albert actually educated their children pretty fairly regardless of gender, Albert probably because he was just a doting parent, and Victoria because she was very limited to education in her childhood and she didn’t like that. Victoria definitely wasn’t the warmest to her children after Albert died, but before then, there’s many personal records of the family enjoying vacations and holidays and Victoria writing about how much she enjoyed one of her young son’s performances on his violin.
Yes, they provided a very good education to their children, including their daughters. Princess Victoria in particular was very bright, and Prince Albert did everything to encourage her studies. By all accounts, she was his favourite and he spent a lot of time with her. So you really can't blame him of not educating, or not caring about, his daughters.
@@jgallardo7344 Condoms have been around, and were available. Back then a woman didn't have any say in if one would be used or not. Men chose not to wear one.
@@ButtonsCasey oh…that I wasn’t aware of. Thank you! I take it there were condoms made with material that pre-dated rubber? In regards to that Weird History video, the narrator was saying that the military took it more seriously for their service members and providing that during WWI
and people were just.. more likely to have Christian morals back then i guess? you didn't need STD's to tell you sleeping around was a bad idea, that's still true
Yeah, I find it a little annoying because so many people classify based in white black hat roles hero villain etc. rather than the role they play and interaction. It is a bit childish and simplistic.
Actually, if you watch films in that era, they also had a FASCINATING way of showing an "anti-hero" character: A white and black mix-colored outfit, or alternatively a black outfit with a white horse (a couple of Barbara Stanwyck's leading characters in films like Maverick Queen or Forty Guns were like this). They weren't exactly villains, but they weren't really the definitions of heroes, so they accordingly were shown in-between.
@@gottfriedosterbach3907 A lot of the simplified ones were B-Westerns or TV stuff. If you look at higher end TV or box office westerns of the era, the outfits and plots are often a lot more complex.
Part of the reason for the lack of smiling was the condition of people's teeth. There has been a good amount of work on smiling, teeth, and dentistry. I believe one is called The Smile Revolution
In every story I’ve heard about Queen Victoria she did have favourites one of her sons she was rumoured to be disappointed in because he gambled and publicly was known for attending brothels. Many of her children died young. It was in queen Victoria’s time that lockets were popular and keepsakes like photos with your dead. She was incredibly sentimental and seemed to like her privacy. She didn’t approve of breast feeding and was said to have thought breasts were an intimate thing between couples but this could be because royals typically didn’t breast feed their own children.
Define “Young”. They all grew up and had children of their own, except Louise. Quite an accomplishment back then. Even her hemophiliac son had two children. But I’ve read Arthur was her favorite because he looked the most like her “angel” Albert. She thought breastfeeding was animalistic, and even named one of her dairy COWS “Alice”😂😂
This channel is amazing! I can't stop watching the videos the content is so compelling. One minute you're learning about the Romans, the next, the wild west, then, Victorians, next up, medieval England and so it goes on. I honestly watch the weird history channel more than I do Netflix now 🤣 Also the guy who does the narration is brilliant. Very informative but throws a nice splash of humour into the mix here and there. Personally I think he deserves a knighthood for services to history! Keep up the good work sir 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
What makes studying the Victorian era jarring (at least for me) is that at times the Victorians seem modern, innovative, and compassionate. And then, you've got many other aspects of their society that are very much the opposite.
Another popular belief is that Victorian women were murdered by their corsets. While there were a few 'influencers' who did insist on tight-lacing to a harmful extent, most corsets provided support and shape for the dresses of the period. "Gone With the Wind" was likely the principal source for this misconception.
I really doubt "Gone with the Wind" had anything to do with that conception. Although Scarlett did want her figure back after child birth. She did try to squeeze into her corset.
Yes, people don't know about all the other undergarments of that era which contributed to the severe hourglass shape (like all the padding and paniers) by making hips and/or butt look much bigger. Absent that knowledge, the assumption is the corset did all of the work creating the shapes.
I've heard claims that an improperly fitting corset (too tight, etc.) was used by some women as an excuse to get out of awkward situations or boring social gatherings. Perhaps this too is a myth, but I find this a lot more believable.
Some mistakes in this video 0:005:40 Downton Abbey, not set during the Victorian era 4:29 17th or 18th century 9:5310:18 Regency period 10:19 Medieval period
4:29 from the dresses, hairstyles, architecture and that uniform clearly tells you it's around about 1840s, it's clearly not from the 1th or 17th century...
You neglected to mention John Brown, Queen Victoria's servant and 'close friend'. Their exact relationship is unknown, but rumours led to her being referred to as 'Mrs Brown' on more than one occasion.
Upon Victoria's death it showed she had a prolapsed uterus. So sexual intimacy is a no no but romantic intimacy is possible. Although history has shown us that Victoria has a tendency for strong controlling men in her life. John Brown was another but labelled a lover bc he wasn't a minister nor aristocrat
Love this channel! Not to sound prudish (for lack of a better term), but I would like to see some content on South America, and Africa. Yes, there are millions of cultures there, so there are plenty of stories to choose from, but this is the weird history channel, right? Might as well.......
Part of the opium den "myth" is semantics........the Victorians we're heavily involved in opium trade based in Hong Kong.The opium they exported to England was largely used in the brothels as birth control and to keep the workers at the brothel
at least twice you used pictures from the show downton abbey which DID NOT take place in the victorian era. it starts in 1912, with the sinking of the titanic. not only was victoria long gone, so was king Edward, her son. the show starts with the characters wearing edwardian era clothing and moves on to the 20s from there. edwardian clothing was fairly different from victorian.
@@andrewthomson5650 where would the fun be in that? besides, don't you think a channel that is supposed to be somewhat educational should have that education correct? oh. i'm totally calm. :)
@@milhouse14 yeah, I was flabergasted at the Regency illustration. I mean true, most of the viewers won't have a clue, but aren't channels like this meant to enlighten them?
The main reason Victorians didn't smile in pictures is because they had to sit in front of the camera for around 15 minutes for the photo. Moving would distort the image so remaining neutral and comfortable makes sense. Try holding a smile for 15 minutes without your mouth moving.
Queen Victoria's mourning for Albert the rest of her days, as you describe, still left room in her emotional life for first, her Scottish boyfriend John Brown, and later her infatuation with Indian "servant", Mahommed Karim. While she was not exactly "the merry widow", she was also not the lonely, isolated grieving widow that people thought her to be.
Her relationship with with Mahommed was for a fact platonic considering he already had a wife who he was actually in love with but I’m not sure about this John brown guy, I’ll have to do some more research on him.
@@destinyclark4133 Yes, indeed her relationship with Mr. Karim was OFFICIALLY platonic, sure. Of course it was! But how do you know "for a fact"? Do you really think that if it were NOT platonic that she would broadcast that fact? Or, indeed, that that is any of our business? LOL Why do you suppose her family rushed to burn Queen Victoria's extensive personal diaries when she died? Tell me that, please. And since when did already being married to another person ever stop a member of the British Royal family having extramarital affairs or relationships. Hello! Can you be serious🤣? Prince Charles' adultery with already-married Camilla is simply the most recent of a long Royal tradition. Go ahead, read about "this John Brown guy" - it's well documented. But you won't read anything about what went on in Queen Victoria's intimate friendship with him. And neither should you.. it's none of our business. Besides, in my comment above I deliberately didn't mention SEX 😱 LOL.
@@theon9575 Victorias diary was not burned, only anything pertaining to politics or Muhammad were erased from it. The reason for that and why some of her personal letters to Muhammad were also burned was because of the racial discrimination many people in the royal household held against him including Victorias son Edward who even forced Muhammad to watch as each letter was burned, evicted him out of the home he had in London, and deported him and his family back to India.
Victoria also had a VERY interesting working relationship with French Emperor Napoleon III (the original Napoleon's nephew). She called him "an extraordinary man, with indomitable courage" and also considered him very deep thinking. Some believe their conversations during meetings may have shaped a few of Victoria's progressive or "enlightened" views. You would never guess she was the granddaughter of Napoleon's archenemy, King George III. Albert was more cautious, but eventually came to respect the Emperor as well from what I've read.
@@destinyclark4133 Wow! You have a lot of inside information. Impressive. So it was "only" racism? I C 🧐 That the Emperor of India would banish an Indian man for being friends with his mother, the then Empress of India, seems extraordinary. And that he should burn letters which contain nothing embarrassing at all, seems extremely strange. But if your inside information on this is 100% certain and clear, then who am I to argue? Mrs Brown, or at least her son, would have loved you. 😂
I absolutely love your narrative!!! Lol 😂 hilarious every time , love the sarcasm 😂 could watch all day… 👏🏻 learning history laughing my head off is the best 👍🏼👍🏼
By that time, however, the harmful effects were becoming known so it was watered down to a seven percent solution. Couldn't have the great detective going off his tits 🤪
Victorian Era people lived like everyone through history. There was humour and celebrating as well as death and disease. We have first hand records and photographs plus racy types of such. Queen Victoria had an overprotective childhood. She wasn't allowed to meet other children and was not allowed to even walk down the stairs without someone holding her hand for fear of falling. Her mother kept her isolated and even shared her bedroom until she was crowned Queen. This probably gave her a different outlook on childcare of her own children. It was a good thing that there were nannies and governesses to raise her children.
People did not smile in Victorian era photos because the the lens shutter on the camera was open for a long time in order to exposure the glass film. The subjects had to remain perfectly still during the exposure. This is very difficult to do if a person smiles.
The middle class was more important to me in how people lived in the Victorian era. Not the putrid nobility and royalty, which to me are mainly rancid, idle gluttons ! 😡
Diversity in Victorian Britain? what percent were non native white? Edit: The 1901 census recorded 33,000 Londoners having been born in British colonies. Those colonies include Australia, Canada, NZ, Maltese, South African, Indians. One-thousand of Chinese heritage and One-thousand of African Heritage. London’s population in 1901 was 6.2 million. So 33k immigrants of Mainly European heritage is 0.5% of the 6.2million London population. This is only London, which is by far the most ‘multi cultural’ place in Britain.
I was surprised to hear that opium dens weren’t all that prevalent as I had learned earlier. A well read friend of mine believed Sherlock Holmes was smoking opium when he lit up his pipe.
Oh, how I wish her daughter Beatrice hadn’t “cleaned up” Victoria’s journals, and then burned them, along with her letters, which are a treasure trove among the ones that survived. Victoria was VERY honest, with her opinions. Brutally so. Bea went at them with hot water and a hatchet. Even the stuff she left in, you can see. “We kissed over and over again” (her wedding night). “It was heaven, Albert is SO BEAUTIFUL in just his nightshirt”. And she took out ANY mention of John Brown. What a tragedy. 🙈 And Victoria did herself a wee bit of drugs. They weren’t illegal. Quick note, I understand that she said the “WE” was because she was always referring to her and Albert. Even after he was deceased, she always felt they were together, if not in body, then in spirit.
Sherlock Holmes walked so that Batman could run. Growing up, part of required reading in my house was The Hound of the Baskervilles, right next to The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. Towel up, homies.
You are the best of the best! You make history worth watching. The narrator's voice is worth every minute of Absolute History and Nutty History - many thanks!!!
In 1948 my 80 year old Grandmother told me 'little pitchers are to be seen not heard.' Objecting to my 6 year old words. Many parts of our ideas of the Victorians are correct.
I think the one about tear bottles. I just thought that was quite interesting to hear about them a while back and very believable, so do they really know?
Like me,until I lived(for want of a better word)in a grotty city thanks to a dumb mistake.How anybody chooses to live in a city,puzzles me.But to each their own.Soo glad to get out.
I've read that Victorian writers were reluctant to even use the word "leg" for a woman's lower extremity, and substituted the word "limb". But the Victorian mania for keeping skin covered is evident in their ridiculous bathing suits. Flounces, peplums, ruffles and skirts (all in black, to show solidarity with Queen Victoria's 40 years of mourning) helped drown many a Victorian woman. Victoria's militant ignorance extended to the trial of Oscar Wilde. When told of his homosexuality, and asked if women should be penalized as well, the queen glowered and said, "Women do not do that " So only male homosexuals were jailed, or sentenced to "chemical castration", like Alan Turing. The skin coverup also killed many people by depriving them of sunlight, and vitamin-D, hobbling their immune systems. That's one of the main reasons Victorians seemed so pale and sickly, with epidemics ripping thru the cities like wildfire. Tuberculosis, influenza, croup, grippe, colds, typhoid, cholera, sepsis, scarlet fever, measles, mumps, etc. killed millions because SKIN=SIN. They wanted to look aristocratic, so they stayed out of the sun, because only POOR people who worked in the sun all day had a tan. So I don't buy your final claim that Victorians were not prudes just because they had prostitution. All cultures have it. The question is, how did they treat it? In Victorian England, prostitution was legal, but punished under other laws like public health codes, public drunkenness, or public gatherings. Since these women became prostitutes because they were poor, molested, sexually assaulted, seduced, infected, impregnated, or abandoned, the law punished victims of sex crime. As usual. Some things never change.
Yeah that's mostly myth. Sure were there people who took it too far? Yes but the mass majority of victorian's aren't represented by a couple pictures of royalty and some stories you heard on buzzfeed.
For a history channel, even if it's weird, I find it hard to believe that you would include Downton Abbey in the Victorian Era since the series starts with the sinking of the Titanic in 1912...
Around 1920 there was a huge backlash against the Victorian ethos, blamed for the pointless slaughter of the Great War. Dumps were often located near Graveyards, at least in the Western U.S.
The reason why people don’t smile in old photos is because they had to sit still for such a long time that it wasn’t practical to smile as the photo may turn out blurry. Geez I thought this was a history channel 🤪
I remember hearing about how Victoria supposedly died, something having to do with a horse suspended on a sling... this is probably a myth, however. Has anyone else heard this?
The piano leg thing had me fooled for a while and yes they had diversity but black people were definitely not Dukes or Queens as Netflix's Bridgerton would have you believe.That show has alot to answer for. The UK was an Empire so people flocked to the mother country.
I knew that the 'angel in the house' must have been a perceived ideal. The presence of women is everywhere in Victorian literature and in Victorian history!
“Working class children faced extreme pressures”? Seriously? Pressures? I mean I guess death, disease, and maiming in horrible ways could be defined as pressures, although I would think “horrors” might be a more apt term for what those kids had to face. Hell, even the wealthy kids were often being poisoned by lead, arsenic, or asbestos, the latter being in almost everything since they thought it was a miracle material. The worst part is that even when they got sick, medicine was just starting to not be old folk remedies that they were even more likely to not survive the many things that were dangerous in their world
As a American this maybe surprising but I knew all this about Queen Victoria but was honestly unaware that other's existed that thought she was simply cold n' all that is all she was. It's like no she changed dramatically and showed her sadness through her dark clothes after Albert died but before that she was a lively woman..
For sure, as another American I have been stunned to read about just how different Victoria was when Albert was alive. Not only did she wear a lot of brighter colored dresses, but her confidence in some situations was also considered by some to be almost legendary. When Napoleon III seized power in France in 1851, Victoria was one of the only British leaders that did NOT freak out and think war was imminent (though she was concerned). She actually engaged in direct diplomacy with the French, and some credit her with not only helping prevent another major war, but building the foundations of the modern Anglo-French alliance. She only retreated more to her palaces when her "rock" was no longer there.
Trying holding a smile for 10 minutes without moving, it isn't easy. In the earliest days of photography long-exposures could take up to 10 minutes to develop, and any movement would result in a blur and ruin the photo. I think the likening of photos to portrait paintings also helped, which also required keeping still. Of course, during the second half of the Victorian era photography became more developed (ha ha), and thus more photos of smiling people can be seen from the 1850s onwards.
Victorian era America was far more prudish than during the same time in the UK. In fact you were more likely to see table and piano legs covered in parts of the USA than in the UK!
Victorian era Century Brits may not have had mass numbers of opium dens, but there was certainly no shortage in the western US. We did a lot of exploring of mines and boomtowns from the 19th century back in the 1950s-60s and the sheer number of opium containers and associated paraphernalia in the areas and old dump sites left little doubt they were fiends.
As a fan of gothic horror I am quite relieved to find out that the excessive amount of fog back then was *not* a myth. 👍
You should check out the great smog of london. Air pollution was so fucking bad that visibility dropped to the point where it was impossible to see more than a few feet away. People died as a result of ambulances not being able to pick people up. Modern environmental regulations exist because we saw what happens when there are no regulations.
The victorian era was the age of coal, and it wasn't burned in a clean way.
Pea soup its really foggy yes a pea souper
London Fog was actually made from large brick Kilns called clamps that were literally burned on the road because the country was industrializing so fast that they had to keep making bricks fast as close to the worksite as possible. Check out the BBC documentary Victorian Farm their episode on the brick kiln. Between this and crap tons of industrial smoke from early factories that each had to make their own power. Just taking a single breath outside with a freaking health hazard in London for many years. The belief in women's delicate immune systems and that they had to be kept absolutely pure and therefore kept in the house was especially enforced in London because of this. Because child mortality and death in childbirth were so common they wanted to protect the women as much as absolutely possible so that they could keep having babies. Women were the vessel through which family lines and inheritances like titles could continue and therefore protecting them was the highest social good.
haha that's a good one
And it smelled TERRIBLE🤢
I’ve been to countries where people don’t smile for photos because they want to look natural. It seems like smiling for a photo is something people do when cameras become more common. When photos are rare it’s more formal and a rare opportunity to preserve one’s appearance. Once cameras become common they become more about fun.
It’s actually more likely because exposures used to take minutes and the sitter had to remain still. Easier to not move if not holding a smile.
It's funny, but MOST Europeans say they can spot an American because they smile 'all the time'. I find smiling more natural than not
I mean, i get it. I feel really weird smiling for a photo, I can't force myself to do it.
@@debbylou5729 I think it's that massive toothy smile showing all of your teeth and pulling your cheeks as far up towards your ears as possible which is being referred to there. A natural smile is fine, but people don't usually go around trying to display every one of their teeth most of the time because it just looks so bloody forced/fake and two dimensional
Smiling just simply wasn't a custom in the early days of photography. Getting your portrait taken was a huge deal, especially if you were poor and it might be the only picture you have taken of you, so you wanted to look your best. Getting a picture taken in the Victorian era was a very solemn and serious occasion. But when cameras started to become smaller, cheaper and more portable, people began lugging them along to picnics and other outings, and soon felt comfortable enough to smile and goof off in front of the camera lens!
Victoria and Albert actually educated their children pretty fairly regardless of gender, Albert probably because he was just a doting parent, and Victoria because she was very limited to education in her childhood and she didn’t like that. Victoria definitely wasn’t the warmest to her children after Albert died, but before then, there’s many personal records of the family enjoying vacations and holidays and Victoria writing about how much she enjoyed one of her young son’s performances on his violin.
I think she was kept hidden by her mother and didn’t care for her that much.
@@jenniperkins4260 yes, I remember learning somewhere (maybe this channel) that her mother controlled every aspect of her life.
Yes, they provided a very good education to their children, including their daughters. Princess Victoria in particular was very bright, and Prince Albert did everything to encourage her studies. By all accounts, she was his favourite and he spent a lot of time with her. So you really can't blame him of not educating, or not caring about, his daughters.
I don't think Steampunk is usually meant to be historically accurate.
It's not. It's just an aesthetic.
Neither is this channel 😅
You know what? I always wondered what they did with all the airships and steam powered computers from that Era but it's not real?
It was a joke.🤦♂️
No. Just an excuse to show off a lot of retro high tech stuff. And the aesthetic.
Victorian upper and middle class morality was partly a reaction to an incurable STD. Infidelity could mean death for you and your partner(s).
As stated in a previous video, contraception like a condom wasn’t circulated with seriousness until WWI
Same as now
@@jgallardo7344 Condoms have been around, and were available. Back then a woman didn't have any say in if one would be used or not. Men chose not to wear one.
@@ButtonsCasey oh…that I wasn’t aware of. Thank you! I take it there were condoms made with material that pre-dated rubber?
In regards to that Weird History video, the narrator was saying that the military took it more seriously for their service members and providing that during WWI
and people were just.. more likely to have Christian morals back then i guess? you didn't need STD's to tell you sleeping around was a bad idea, that's still true
7:48 The reason for the black hat/white hat trope was so that people could see who the good guys and bad guys were on TV in the 1950’s.
Yeah, I find it a little annoying because so many people classify based in white black hat roles hero villain etc. rather than the role they play and interaction. It is a bit childish and simplistic.
Actually, if you watch films in that era, they also had a FASCINATING way of showing an "anti-hero" character: A white and black mix-colored outfit, or alternatively a black outfit with a white horse (a couple of Barbara Stanwyck's leading characters in films like Maverick Queen or Forty Guns were like this). They weren't exactly villains, but they weren't really the definitions of heroes, so they accordingly were shown in-between.
@@gottfriedosterbach3907 A lot of the simplified ones were B-Westerns or TV stuff. If you look at higher end TV or box office westerns of the era, the outfits and plots are often a lot more complex.
Part of the reason for the lack of smiling was the condition of people's teeth. There has been a good amount of work on smiling, teeth, and dentistry. I believe one is called The Smile Revolution
Damn the discovery of cane sugar! 😂
I thought it was the length of time to take a photograph people had to stay very still for some minutes.
@@amdesigns5865 THIS
Great point I completely forgot about that lol
@@amdesigns5865 this bad teeth reason is just speculation. The time to take the photos is the main reason.
In every story I’ve heard about Queen Victoria she did have favourites one of her sons she was rumoured to be disappointed in because he gambled and publicly was known for attending brothels. Many of her children died young. It was in queen Victoria’s time that lockets were popular and keepsakes like photos with your dead. She was incredibly sentimental and seemed to like her privacy. She didn’t approve of breast feeding and was said to have thought breasts were an intimate thing between couples but this could be because royals typically didn’t breast feed their own children.
Define “Young”. They all grew up and had children of their own, except Louise. Quite an accomplishment back then. Even her hemophiliac son had two children. But I’ve read Arthur was her favorite because he looked the most like her “angel” Albert. She thought breastfeeding was animalistic, and even named one of her dairy COWS “Alice”😂😂
This channel is amazing! I can't stop watching the videos the content is so compelling. One minute you're learning about the Romans, the next, the wild west, then, Victorians, next up, medieval England and so it goes on. I honestly watch the weird history channel more than I do Netflix now 🤣 Also the guy who does the narration is brilliant. Very informative but throws a nice splash of humour into the mix here and there. Personally I think he deserves a knighthood for services to history! Keep up the good work sir 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The new videos are much better, the old ones have so much cheap humor it’s cringe
I think he is hilarious too.
Welcome to the fam! Nutty History is great too! Yes he is incredible and such a perfect voice!
What makes studying the Victorian era jarring (at least for me) is that at times the Victorians seem modern, innovative, and compassionate. And then, you've got many other aspects of their society that are very much the opposite.
I think that describes much of human history. Whatever era were in is riddled with the same dualities
@@jkatttt1699 A very good point!
The same could be said about todays generation and all the ones to come lol
Another popular belief is that Victorian women were murdered by their corsets. While there were a few 'influencers' who did insist on tight-lacing to a harmful extent, most corsets provided support and shape for the dresses of the period. "Gone With the Wind" was likely the principal source for this misconception.
I really doubt "Gone with the Wind" had anything to do with that conception.
Although Scarlett did want her figure back after child birth.
She did try to squeeze into her corset.
@@whiterabbit-wo7hw It is shown in the movie very clearly. "Tighter!"
Yes, people don't know about all the other undergarments of that era which contributed to the severe hourglass shape (like all the padding and paniers) by making hips and/or butt look much bigger. Absent that knowledge, the assumption is the corset did all of the work creating the shapes.
@@RTCPhotoWork the "bum roll" was an indispensable tool for that in the 18th century, at least...
I've heard claims that an improperly fitting corset (too tight, etc.) was used by some women as an excuse to get out of awkward situations or boring social gatherings. Perhaps this too is a myth, but I find this a lot more believable.
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TV shows set in the victorian era not having much diversity isn't crazy, since most of those shows focus on stuff like nobility or royalty.
Woke community going to have a word with you soon.
@@panzfaust9812 the woke community needs to face the reality of the day.
@@CrazyBrosCael the woke community should be shot without trial.
@@panzfaust9812 of course whenever the white guy isn't the center of attention at all times we hear the word woke.
@@CrazyBrosCael yes in the anti-woke community needs to face reality. Everybody has contributed to this planet not just the white guy.
Some mistakes in this video
0:00 5:40 Downton Abbey, not set during the Victorian era
4:29 17th or 18th century
9:53 10:18 Regency period
10:19 Medieval period
Irritating, especially given the ideas it could give to people unfamiliar with history.
4:29 from the dresses, hairstyles, architecture and that uniform clearly tells you it's around about 1840s, it's clearly not from the 1th or 17th century...
Downton Abbey is set in the late 1800s and early 20th century. Is that The Victorian Era?
@@glennso47 No. It is set in the early 20th century. This is post Victorian Era.
Such a sweetheart to say “I don’t have a joke here, that’s just sad.” Endeared you to me x100 more…
Maybe Prince Albert DID have a genital piercing and that became Victoria's Secret!
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Niiiice. 😂
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You neglected to mention John Brown, Queen Victoria's servant and 'close friend'. Their exact relationship is unknown, but rumours led to her being referred to as 'Mrs Brown' on more than one occasion.
Upon Victoria's death it showed she had a prolapsed uterus. So sexual intimacy is a no no but romantic intimacy is possible. Although history has shown us that Victoria has a tendency for strong controlling men in her life. John Brown was another but labelled a lover bc he wasn't a minister nor aristocrat
@@shanellematthews5828 who really knows
She loved him called him darling or something and had his portrait and letters were buried in her coffin
As someone who’s hosted a podcast on lesser-known aspects of (& debunking myths about) the Victorian Era, I must say: well done!
What's the podcast?
@@Painted-Coyote the Victorian Variety Show! It’s available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, iHeart, Amazon Music, & a bunch of other platforms.
@@marisad292 fantastic, ill have to check it out!
@@Painted-Coyote hope you like it!
@@marisad292 - I just subscribed on Spotify! I’m so excited to listen! What a wonderfully diverse list of topics! Bravo! 👏☺️
Love this channel!
Not to sound prudish (for lack of a better term), but I would like to see some content on South America, and Africa. Yes, there are millions of cultures there, so there are plenty of stories to choose from, but this is the weird history channel, right? Might as well.......
Part of the opium den "myth" is semantics........the Victorians we're heavily involved in opium trade based in Hong Kong.The opium they exported to England was largely used in the brothels as birth control and to keep the workers at the brothel
at least twice you used pictures from the show downton abbey which DID NOT take place in the victorian era. it starts in 1912, with the sinking of the titanic. not only was victoria long gone, so was king Edward, her son. the show starts with the characters wearing edwardian era clothing and moves on to the 20s from there. edwardian clothing was fairly different from victorian.
Calm down
@@andrewthomson5650 where would the fun be in that? besides, don't you think a channel that is supposed to be somewhat educational should have that education correct? oh. i'm totally calm. :)
And the very first picture used in this video is Downton Abbey.
I even saw a picture of Regency era 10:16 and medieval era 10:19. My goodness.
@@milhouse14 yeah, I was flabergasted at the Regency illustration. I mean true, most of the viewers won't have a clue, but aren't channels like this meant to enlighten them?
Actually it wouldn't have been Edwardian. King Edward died in 1910
The main reason Victorians didn't smile in pictures is because they had to sit in front of the camera for around 15 minutes for the photo. Moving would distort the image so remaining neutral and comfortable makes sense. Try holding a smile for 15 minutes without your mouth moving.
@@mgenigma5 Yeah someone else said. I can't remember where I picked this myth up but I've believed it since I was a child.
Who painted the painting at 4:55 of the little girl reading a book with her hound dogs head in her arms? That is beautiful!
"The Reading Lesson" by Charles Burton Barber, 1845-1894.
Man, that's something. Reminds me of Mythbusters on the Travel channel.
Queen Victoria's mourning for Albert the rest of her days, as you describe, still left room in her emotional life for first, her Scottish boyfriend John Brown, and later her infatuation with Indian "servant", Mahommed Karim. While she was not exactly "the merry widow", she was also not the lonely, isolated grieving widow that people thought her to be.
Her relationship with with Mahommed was for a fact platonic considering he already had a wife who he was actually in love with but I’m not sure about this John brown guy, I’ll have to do some more research on him.
@@destinyclark4133 Yes, indeed her relationship with Mr. Karim was OFFICIALLY platonic, sure. Of course it was! But how do you know "for a fact"? Do you really think that if it were NOT platonic that she would broadcast that fact? Or, indeed, that that is any of our business? LOL Why do you suppose her family rushed to burn Queen Victoria's extensive personal diaries when she died? Tell me that, please.
And since when did already being married to another person ever stop a member of the British Royal family having extramarital affairs or relationships. Hello! Can you be serious🤣? Prince Charles' adultery with already-married Camilla is simply the most recent of a long Royal tradition. Go ahead, read about "this John Brown guy" - it's well documented. But you won't read anything about what went on in Queen Victoria's intimate friendship with him. And neither should you.. it's none of our business. Besides, in my comment above I deliberately didn't mention SEX 😱 LOL.
@@theon9575 Victorias diary was not burned, only anything pertaining to politics or Muhammad were erased from it. The reason for that and why some of her personal letters to Muhammad were also burned was because of the racial discrimination many people in the royal household held against him including Victorias son Edward who even forced Muhammad to watch as each letter was burned, evicted him out of the home he had in London, and deported him and his family back to India.
Victoria also had a VERY interesting working relationship with French Emperor Napoleon III (the original Napoleon's nephew). She called him "an extraordinary man, with indomitable courage" and also considered him very deep thinking. Some believe their conversations during meetings may have shaped a few of Victoria's progressive or "enlightened" views. You would never guess she was the granddaughter of Napoleon's archenemy, King George III. Albert was more cautious, but eventually came to respect the Emperor as well from what I've read.
@@destinyclark4133 Wow! You have a lot of inside information. Impressive. So it was "only" racism? I C 🧐
That the Emperor of India would banish an Indian man for being friends with his mother, the then Empress of India, seems extraordinary. And that he should burn letters which contain nothing embarrassing at all, seems extremely strange. But if your inside information on this is 100% certain and clear, then who am I to argue?
Mrs Brown, or at least her son, would have loved you. 😂
I absolutely love your narrative!!! Lol 😂 hilarious every time , love the sarcasm 😂 could watch all day… 👏🏻 learning history laughing my head off is the best 👍🏼👍🏼
I love the Victoria Era! Thank you for doing a video on the myths. It was enlightening!
Another great video. Love your collection of pictures (a couple from other time periods), your commentary and humour. Most enjoyable.
Sherlock Holmes only went to an opium den once, and that was because he was undercover. Holmes' drug of choice was cocaine.
Damn stuff.It has destroyed so many.
Ah, the Victorian era, when cocaine was viewed as a harmless drug used to increase your productivity.
By that time, however, the harmful effects were becoming known so it was watered down to a seven percent solution. Couldn't have the great detective going off his tits 🤪
Downton Abbey did not take place during the Victorian era. It started in 1912, a full 11 years after the era ended.
Why do they keep showing Downton Abbey photos? That wasn't set in the Victorian era!
Hey. . .I feel like way more people need to know of the lunacy that was the Toronto Circus Riot of 1855. Love your videos!
Would love to see a video on the reality of the brothels and how they allowed sexual exploration !
Pretty much as they do now....you pay for what you want...you pay extra for anything kinky
Exploitation more like
lol what?
*STD distribution outlets*
@@scottmantooth8785 Like real life isn't 🤣🤣
Victorian Era people lived like everyone through history. There was humour and celebrating as well as death and disease. We have first hand records and photographs plus racy types of such.
Queen Victoria had an overprotective childhood. She wasn't allowed to meet other children and was not allowed to even walk down the stairs without someone holding her hand for fear of falling. Her mother kept her isolated and even shared her bedroom until she was crowned Queen. This probably gave her a different outlook on childcare of her own children. It was a good thing that there were nannies and governesses to raise her children.
I watch nearly all of your videos and I think you're one of the best and most honest of them ‼️ Good shit and I hope you keep up the good stuff ❣️🤓
People did not smile in Victorian era photos because the the lens shutter on the camera was open for a long time in order to exposure the glass film. The subjects had to remain perfectly still during the exposure. This is very difficult to do if a person smiles.
“Victorians we’re using drugs like their parents were out of town for the weekend” lol nothing can convince me that this was not true
The middle class was more important to me in how people lived in the Victorian era. Not the putrid nobility and royalty, which to me are mainly rancid, idle gluttons ! 😡
Diversity in Victorian Britain? what percent were non native white?
Edit: The 1901 census recorded 33,000 Londoners having been born in British colonies. Those colonies include Australia, Canada, NZ, Maltese, South African, Indians.
One-thousand of Chinese heritage and One-thousand of African Heritage.
London’s population in 1901 was 6.2 million. So 33k immigrants of Mainly European heritage is 0.5% of the 6.2million London population. This is only London, which is by far the most ‘multi cultural’ place in Britain.
Dang, that's so diverse...😏
Shhhhh dont you know? These people dont care for facts. INGLAND WUZ VERY DIVERSE AND BASICALLY BLACK
I was surprised to hear that opium dens weren’t all that prevalent as I had learned earlier. A well read friend of mine believed Sherlock Holmes was smoking opium when he lit up his pipe.
Well he did like cocaine.
He wasn't very well read if he believed that
That was very interesting. Thanks for showing the video.🌸
Oh, how I wish her daughter Beatrice hadn’t “cleaned up” Victoria’s journals, and then burned them, along with her letters, which are a treasure trove among the ones that survived. Victoria was VERY honest, with her opinions. Brutally so. Bea went at them with hot water and a hatchet. Even the stuff she left in, you can see. “We kissed over and over again” (her wedding night). “It was heaven, Albert is SO BEAUTIFUL in just his nightshirt”. And she took out ANY mention of John Brown. What a tragedy. 🙈 And Victoria did herself a wee bit of drugs. They weren’t illegal. Quick note, I understand that she said the “WE” was because she was always referring to her and Albert. Even after he was deceased, she always felt they were together, if not in body, then in spirit.
Sherlock Holmes walked so that Batman could run. Growing up, part of required reading in my house was The Hound of the Baskervilles, right next to The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy.
Towel up, homies.
You are the best of the best! You make history worth watching. The narrator's voice is worth every minute of Absolute History and Nutty History - many thanks!!!
In 1948 my 80 year old Grandmother told me 'little pitchers are to be seen not heard.' Objecting to my 6 year old words. Many parts of our ideas of the Victorians are correct.
I did not know about the tear bottle one. It caught my eye instantly
Princess vicky was her favorite because she reminded Victoria the most of Prince Albert
I think the one about tear bottles. I just thought that was quite interesting to hear about them a while back and very believable, so do they really know?
They were a miniscule minority. The majority never saw a black or brown person in their lives back then unless they lived in a large city
Like me,until I lived(for want of a better word)in a grotty city thanks to a dumb mistake.How anybody chooses to live in a city,puzzles me.But to each their own.Soo glad to get out.
Victorias love for albert is unexpected. Nice to see a royal couple that really loved each other.
Victoria was obsessed with Albert. It was unhealthy. The woman told her daughter Alice that losing a child is not as bad as losing a husband.
Myth: Prince Albert had a Prince Albert
Reality: Ummm... It's not true because... Uhh... Because we said so. Move along.
I would love to see a Weird History on how language came to be, across the world
Clicked so fast love the videos all the way from Kansas. Thanks for the best educational and awesomely videos.😊💙
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I've read that Victorian writers were reluctant to even use the word "leg" for a woman's lower extremity, and substituted the word "limb".
But the Victorian mania for keeping skin covered is evident in their ridiculous bathing suits. Flounces, peplums, ruffles and skirts (all in black, to show solidarity with Queen Victoria's 40 years of mourning) helped drown many a Victorian woman.
Victoria's militant ignorance extended to the trial of Oscar Wilde. When told of his homosexuality, and asked if women should be penalized as well, the queen glowered and said,
"Women do not do that "
So only male homosexuals were jailed, or sentenced to "chemical castration", like Alan Turing.
The skin coverup also killed many people by depriving them of sunlight, and vitamin-D, hobbling their immune systems. That's one of the main reasons Victorians seemed so pale and sickly, with epidemics ripping thru the cities like wildfire. Tuberculosis, influenza, croup, grippe, colds, typhoid, cholera, sepsis, scarlet fever, measles, mumps, etc. killed millions because SKIN=SIN.
They wanted to look aristocratic, so they stayed out of the sun, because only POOR people who worked in the sun all day had a tan.
So I don't buy your final claim that Victorians were not prudes just because they had prostitution. All cultures have it. The question is, how did they treat it? In Victorian England, prostitution was legal, but punished under other laws like public health codes, public drunkenness, or public gatherings. Since these women became prostitutes because they were poor, molested, sexually assaulted, seduced, infected, impregnated, or abandoned, the law punished victims of sex crime. As usual. Some things never change.
Very good points!
@@janetsworld9734 I like your smackdown on cultural appropriation, Janet. Keep on rockin'.
@@LordMondegrene Thank you!!!
@@janetsworld9734 Yer welcome, darlin'.
Yeah that's mostly myth. Sure were there people who took it too far? Yes but the mass majority of victorian's aren't represented by a couple pictures of royalty and some stories you heard on buzzfeed.
Me, wearing my steam punk regalia: EGREGIOUS!
Please do a video on myths debunked about the Roaring Twenties and the Great Depression
I’m new to this channel, but I’d love to see a video on myths about space travel or people’s experiences in space.
For a history channel, even if it's weird, I find it hard to believe that you would include Downton Abbey in the Victorian Era since the series starts with the sinking of the Titanic in 1912...
Around 1920 there was a huge backlash against the Victorian ethos, blamed for the pointless slaughter of the Great War. Dumps were often located near Graveyards, at least in the Western U.S.
Princess Beatrice was known as Queen Victoria’s favourite daughter and Prince Arthur was her favourite son out of all.
Diversity was a small thing in the day, certainly not jow Bridgeton portrays it
5:33 that illustration is terrifying
Victoria’s grandchildren’s decisions probably disappointed her too
The reason why people don’t smile in old photos is because they had to sit still for such a long time that it wasn’t practical to smile as the photo may turn out blurry. Geez I thought this was a history channel 🤪
Dear weird history
I have some insomnia and your video help me a lot to sleep thks
Can I get some topics on the Age of Exploration/Age of Discovery for my students and I? Love your channel!
Yes I seen the opium den on the movie From Hell. Johnny Depp's character was a regular.
I don’t think Steampunks are trying to be historically accurate. It’s fantasy
Steam-punk is an inspiration from the Victorian/Edwardian fashions.
But it's not accurate.
I think that part might have been tongue-in-cheek.
@@jamestown8398 fair enough
I love this channel!!!
Is there proof that Prince Albert was in a can, though?
Do a vid about Victorian balls and/or dinner parties. They had so many rules, they read almost like elaborate religious ceremonies
I remember hearing about how Victoria supposedly died, something having to do with a horse suspended on a sling... this is probably a myth, however. Has anyone else heard this?
You‘re thinking of Catherine the Great of Russia, although that story is also pretty unbelievable.
*7:03** Opium dens...the Starbucks of their day*
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This was fascinating! Thank you!!!
The no smiling photo went on well into the 1940s/50s
The piano leg thing had me fooled for a while and yes they had diversity but black people were definitely not Dukes or Queens as Netflix's Bridgerton would have you believe.That show has alot to answer for. The UK was an Empire so people flocked to the mother country.
Bridgerton isn’t based on historical accuracy and they actively say they aren’t. It’s just to be enjoyed
Netflix is a joke with that shit.
Bridgerton is very obviously historical fantasy, not a documentary.
"So why is the piercing named after Queen Victoria's husband? Neh... no one really knows." 😂 Lol
What's the name of the music in the background 0:00 - 0:35?
Damn she really loved him. Mourned for 40 years.
British inequality!! Take a look at US inequality!! Pots...kettles!???
Facts? Debunked? I guess these days debunking is simply saying that A or B isn’t true. DeBuNkEd!
I knew that the 'angel in the house' must have been a perceived ideal. The presence of women is everywhere in Victorian literature and in Victorian history!
Kind of surprised with the claim that the covering of pianolegs wasn't real. I had an anthropology professor declare it in class as real
Love this channel
“Working class children faced extreme pressures”? Seriously? Pressures? I mean I guess death, disease, and maiming in horrible ways could be defined as pressures, although I would think “horrors” might be a more apt term for what those kids had to face. Hell, even the wealthy kids were often being poisoned by lead, arsenic, or asbestos, the latter being in almost everything since they thought it was a miracle material. The worst part is that even when they got sick, medicine was just starting to not be old folk remedies that they were even more likely to not survive the many things that were dangerous in their world
What music did you use for the video?
Is there the possibility of a crossover episode of Weird History/ Weird History Food about the history of the microwave?
Makes video about busting the Myths of the Victorian Era
Opening image from a show set in the 1920's.
alright
Do you have Prince Albert in a can?
Why yes we do…
Well you better let him out! He can’t breathe!
As a American this maybe surprising but I knew all this about Queen Victoria but was honestly unaware that other's existed that thought she was simply cold n' all that is all she was. It's like no she changed dramatically and showed her sadness through her dark clothes after Albert died but before that she was a lively woman..
For sure, as another American I have been stunned to read about just how different Victoria was when Albert was alive. Not only did she wear a lot of brighter colored dresses, but her confidence in some situations was also considered by some to be almost legendary. When Napoleon III seized power in France in 1851, Victoria was one of the only British leaders that did NOT freak out and think war was imminent (though she was concerned). She actually engaged in direct diplomacy with the French, and some credit her with not only helping prevent another major war, but building the foundations of the modern Anglo-French alliance. She only retreated more to her palaces when her "rock" was no longer there.
Trying holding a smile for 10 minutes without moving, it isn't easy. In the earliest days of photography long-exposures could take up to 10 minutes to develop, and any movement would result in a blur and ruin the photo. I think the likening of photos to portrait paintings also helped, which also required keeping still.
Of course, during the second half of the Victorian era photography became more developed (ha ha), and thus more photos of smiling people can be seen from the 1850s onwards.
Victorian era America was far more prudish than during the same time in the UK. In fact you were more likely to see table and piano legs covered in parts of the USA than in the UK!
IF I EVER get remarried, I want this narrator to officiate.
steampunk is alternative history its not incorrect its a what if history was different
I never heard of the piano leg myth, but I knew it was a joke before even seeing your explanation.
Victorian era Century Brits may not have had mass numbers of opium dens, but there was certainly no shortage in the western US. We did a lot of exploring of mines and boomtowns from the 19th century back in the 1950s-60s and the sheer number of opium containers and associated paraphernalia in the areas and old dump sites left little doubt they were fiends.
When you said might as well throw a little brut in that hole and freshen things up I cackled not gonna lie. My mind went elsewhere. lol
Shame on you 😂
If you read Little Lord Fauntleroy, he’s not stuffy