@Demigah why did she get mad? That just shows these mfs just want money and don't care about the IP. And they're using the press like a disgruntled nba player forcing themselves to another team. Bob gotta go.
I think RDJ will do good because he’s a fantastic actor, but there’s just so many reasons for him to NOT be Doctor Doom. There are better ways to save a franchise than this Marvel/Disney
@@nerothanomad2384 true but I'd be cool with him coming to play another big time villain in the MCU hell if we're lucky we could get him to play brother voodoo
@@byronrush9802absolutely not. I feel like people don't actually care to learn who these characters are you guys just see a character and just think "hey they look somewhat similar or they're the same ethnicity they'll totally work, who cares if they actually fit." Even if Denzel we're interested in superhero films he would look extremely stupid in a costume like I said it's not for everybody just because you're a good actor does not mean you can play every role. Leonardo DiCaprio would've been a silly ass Spider-Man and on top of that their star power outshines the character it's the Will Smith Suicide Squad effect you would just see Denzel. RDJ worked as Iron Man because like Iron Man he was a D-List druggy and degenerate he was literally Tony Stark in real life minus the genius and the suit. The MCU was successful largely because they understood the characters and cast them accordingly to those characters.
2:23 No. NO! If children cannot consent and be allowed alcohol, then they aren’t young enough to understand the consequences and risks of changing gender. Let them grow and understand themselves! I’m an adult and I’m still discovering myself. I know what it’s like to question my gender, and I’m thankful I didn’t do so in this environment. Apologies for this rant, but that crap sets me off like no other!
You're absolutely correct. A child will beg for a toy, you get it for them, they discard it the next day. But if my child tells me he wants to cut his family jewels off, I'm supposed to let him? HIS MIND IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE
Not to mention the amount of data shows that it goes wrong most of the time, sometimes resulting in the word youtube will remove if I comment. Just why, millions of years of evolution degraded.
This will be hilarious. RDJ is gonna walk away with a fat check and Disney is going to lose the Marvel property. A hilarious trade in late stage capitalism
@@Demigah true. i respect how based you are, but we have reached a point where there are far too many race swaps. i know i sound like a racist saying it (or can be mistaken for one), but it would be nice to have characters be visually accurate. that's one of the ways people tell one character from another beyond just the costume. batman has a distinct look, t'challa has a distinct look as an obvious brother from africa (or at least of african decent), tony stark has a distinct look that RDJ captured PERFECTLY! chris evans captured steve rogers' look and mannerisms perfectly!
“Just a business transaction on both parts.” THANK YOU. I’ve been saying this for a few days now since it was announced. I love RDJ but it just screams desperation. I didn’t know about the She-Hulk appearing in Deadpool & Wolverine thing though. Jesus 😬🤢
@@Demigah I know. It’s an *INSANE* amount of money. Can’t justify that shite. It also speaks volumes about his genuine love for the MCU over a fat pay cheque 😂
I care more about my kid not becoming homeless this whole changing gender thing does not helping kid become success it just gonna make kid feel more insecure about their identity. Being yourself does not mean going to a surgeon to change your body completely
When your first reaction to a reveal is 'why though ?', yeah its problematic, unless him looking like tony has a plot significance there's no good reason as to why they couldn't cast someone else as doom.
@@Demigah It's still too early to say how good or bad this'll turn out and I haven't really been following the MCU close enough to know how good or bad the current overarching narrative is for the Avengers movie.
If Majors had been better received, Disney could have easily forgiven this. But since Phase 4 wasn't popular and Majors wasn't a big actor, he was expendable. If he had made money though they would have let him walk.
I'm excited but scared for it i know I'll still definently be watching RDJs return and I hope it goes well All the new faces in the mcu either HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING (Moonknight and Shang Chi) OR THEH JUST SUCKKKKKK (she hulks bitch ass)
I don’t get why they couldn’t get back Julian McMahon 2 okay doom. He played Doom in the 2005 Fantastic 4 movies with Chris Evan’s, and Jessica alba. If they can bring back Wolverine and old early 2000s marvel faces why not bring him back and they can do it.
My beef with this is that RDJ is super expensive, when a hungry unknown would have been cheaper, less jarring and potentially as good or better. So many great ideas get crushed under re-shoots and budgets offsetting box office. It was an executive decision to get an expensive MCU-Alum into this role, and when his salary pushes the film into the red, it'll be an executive decision to call "Sweet-Baby" to add broad appeal to the film in reshoots hoping to offset the cost.
I will make it make sense. Both Jeremy Renner and Josh Brolin were accused of doing similar things. Key word: accused. Renner was accused of some very awful things, indicating that he was abusing their daughter. Yet, she's fine having shared custody? With a man that supposedly did something like that to their daughter? Nah, that means she is either a moron, a monster or a liar. Josh Brolin was arrested for a domestic incident in 2004. Diane Lane, his wife at the time, dropped the charges inmediately after, saying it was a misunderstanding. Then there's a bar incident involving other actors, you don't really get much. The most important thing here, is that none of them were convicted of anything while having a contract with Disney. Hell, they haven't had a criminal conviction ever! I can't speak for Jonathan Majors. I don't know the facts of the case. But comparisons can't be made when the contexts are so different.
@@Katsu_ragi Yea, the contexts are different. One actually did the deed, the other was defending himself. The guy defending himself was convicted and the abusers are scott free.
@@SCM-ol5sw you seem so certain... What makes you so qualified to disregard the authorities judgement? I get doubting them, and questioning them, of course. But you are actively saying two individuals are guilty of crimes they haven't been charged not convicted for. What is your proof? Because the facts are, Renner's wife's claims make no sense, and Brolin has said multiple times that Diane can explain the situation if everybody want to know, but she remains silent. And, most importantly, they were not hired nor had any convictions while being employed by Disney. Those details matter.
@@Katsu_ragi First off, dont think you need any qualifications to share an opinion. But if that's not the case, then your mouth is the first that needs to be closed shut.
@@Katsu_ragi Secondly, since you ask about proof a lot, theres a video of Majors trying to get away from the so-called "Victim", yet he was convicted and was unjustly fired. A man was convicted for defending himself, but you seem to lack the brain cells to grasp the situation.
If i remember right, jonathan Majors had it in his contract that only he could play kang. I would guess that's because he knew the multiverse would leave Marvel open to recast him if they wanted.
Apart from the RDJ casting I do feel better about Doom being the villain for a new Avengers movie. Mainly because, the supposed big bad of a big event film like Avengers, Kang, had already been shown being defeated in two other projects. Ik it’s that variant bs and all but, after more than one subpar appearance, Kang for a big event film like Avengers 5 just feels cheap
Nobody was excited for the Kang Dynasty after Quantumania so switching out Kang for Doom is appropriate and RDJ even originally auditioned for the role of Doom in the 2005 Fantastic Four so I say just let them cook.
Cillian Murphy was right there and they didn’t get him! He would have been perfect as Doom! Also She Hulk’s actress’s stance on kids being able to transition is disgusting!
And sadly she is not the only one, war machine (Don Cheadle) used a "protect trans kids" T-shirt, Gamora (Zoe Saldana) raises her kids as if they don't have a gender, there are probably more, because Hollywood actors are kinda delusional.
Regarding the Kang recast issue, it's been reported that Jonathan Majors possibly had a clause that only he could play Kang and all of his variants. Since he got fired, I'm not sure how that clause wasn't null and voided given that Marvel just replaced the character all together. But Variety reported that Marvel was looking to replace Kang with Doom after Quantumania underperformed at the box office, Jonathan Majors' legal problems and guilty verdict just made the choice easy for Disney. And to be honest, I'm with them. After Loki season 2, Kang just became really irrelevant and even as a hardcore Marvel fan, Kang's backstory and variants do get really redundant after a while.
idk bout comic accuracy, cuz if they have good writing and directors the movie can still be good. like man of steel for example. but yeah everything else, you spittin fax
If they were going to to bring back rdj why not just make him into a evil variant of himself of course im referring to superior ironman but that's not all i feel like they should've recasted johnathan majors or at least give him a second chance but nope they went with the opposite instead. But just imagine an alternative universe where we got a fan favorite actor playing doom while kang dynasty still happens then secret wars introduces superior ironman who's a secondary villan and the movie ends with those three in a vicious battle that resets the mcu
When Christian bale was announced as gor, we all were ecstatic. Thor love and thunder was the most painful marvel movie i have sat through, you can argue some have been worse but none of those you went into with expectations anyway. Now you could find an incredible actor to play dr doom for a lot less than what they are paying rdj, but are we really pretending it would be enough? Cillian murphy is an amazing actor... but he also doesn't give two whole damn shits for the mcu. These are the same fans who fan casted john krazinski as the smartest man alive and the energy and enthusiasm he summoned to his role that only lasted 2 minutes was akin to an actual potato. RDJ as doom is 100% a break glass in case of an emergency but atleast they finally acknowledged we're in one. This is the guy who had to fight for his casting because of his past despite having an off the charts screen test. Only Favreau believed in him, they proved everyone else wrong and gave the mcu wheels. Remembering that doom is almost always wearing his mask and has a melted face, here's a reminder of the other times we have seen the same person pull off different marvel performances Cable and Thanos Johnny Storm and Steve Rogers Miguel O'Hara, Moon Knight and Apocolypse Micro and now The Thing Ghost Rider and Spider Noir Cottenmouth, Prowler and possibly Blade??? There's a solid chance they don't ever address the fact it's "tony stark" under the mask. RDJ is more than capable of making the two performances unique. Let him cook.
This is exactly why I steer clear of the MCU. Unless it's deadpool. Pirated both deadpool movies this year and rly enjoyed both, the first one especially. I actually wanna go and watch 3 in the cinemas if my mum gives me money for it.
Totally ! I feel like In MCU every time we see his face it reminded us of Tony. Stark .he can play a villain but just not in MCU .. it just weird because he been playing Tony Stark for years and suddenly we have to associate his face to someone else
Marvel is getting DESPERATE, first they gave Ryan creative control (best decision made ever) and pretty much begged him to make a good movie, now this, which I'm still not sure about, I'll have to wait.
I agree with you that casting Robert Downey Jr as Doctor Doom with no build up is problematic. My stance on this is that it just screams a safety net move especially with hiring the Russo's back when they initially said that they didn't want to direct anymore Marvel projects until the end of the decade. I think that Marvel looked at their failures and looked at the Russo's failures since Endgame and just took advantage of Robert saying that he was "open minded" to returning to the MCU post Oscar win and just said, "name your price." There were easier ways to get RDJ back in the MCU, all they had to do was make Armor Wars. This is the biggest safety net move I've ever seen in my life.
I honestly agree. I don't think Marvel should be repeating any old faces back (even as a new/different character). And while I also agree that RDJr is a good actor, I don't um.. I don't think this roll is really for him.
I'd be lying if I said I'm not worried because ( like everyone else)I wanna finally see Doctor Doom in his full glory properly presented, and of course RDJ wasn't my first choice, the guy has potential but im not gonna be glazing like a handful of others are, so until then I'll see where this goes
The marvel haters are crazy. This is literally perfect. It makes the story more interesting we’re gonna see reaction of different heroes that care about Tony and not want to fight a look-alike. Y’all just be hating too much bro get a life. Besides an actor he can play the part
They gonna go with the direction of him being from another alternate universe. Where he became Dr Doom, but I wanted someone else to be Dr Doom rather than casting an actor who did his last role as Iron Man. His death is an awesome way to end the character's legacy. Bringing RDJ is a dumb and desperate way to save their flop MCU films.
I’m a bit skeptical about RDJ being Doctor Doom. One one hand, I would’ve preferred another actor to take on the character. But on the other, we’ve seen how good RDJ can act outside the cool guy Tony Stark archetype, so for him to play another Marvel character so wildly different from Iron Man can potentially be interesting. And depending on the direction they take with Victor Von Doom, if it is the original character and not a Tony Stark variant, RDJ could pull it off. Remember that this is a character that we only ever see wearing his mask because of the accident he had with the Fantastic Four which left his face permanently disfigured, so they don’t need to rely so heavily on RDJ’s face.
Is LITTERALLY R*ClSM It was already insulting when they didn that to the Maximoff Twins, & now they crossed the line with Victor Why does they hate so mucho Romani people?
4:31 i honestly think they cant recast him, i heard that his contract prevented anyone else from being kang in the mcu. Also they didn't really drop majors just because he lost the case, it was because they didn't know how long it would take. During the time majors made it seem like it would be over quickly but it went on way too long to the point they had to chsnge things. If the contract with majors was true, then they had no choice to not recast him. But if they did recast kang but have him taken out by doom then honestly it just shows they lost faith in kang entirely. Its their fault for letting the one from ant man 3 get killed by ants, because it lessen how much of a threat he was.
Meh, I dont really mind it. Doom is a character Marvel can not afford to fail with. Especially after the Kang flop. He is the most safe bet for success. We also haven't had Ironman in a movie for 5 years now, about time this comes out it will be 7. So him being tied to that character sucks. So Im happy they are going safe with Doom.
They LITERALLY could have made new actor Kill this kang and kill Every Others as he is Truly from the future and they would have this end up showing the real threat of Kang but nope cuz that he's replaced LITERALLY hole movie doesn't matter not even the show and RDJ is cool but makes no sense and it scares me that they did this and learning why means it won't be better then people think
Someone who has a lot of experience being the bad guy should've been Doom. Doom's intimidating, ruthless and highly intelligent. I can't really imagine RDJ's voice with Doom.
Contrary to what people believe executives aren’t stupid worse they’re rich they don’t lose money on these movies. They won’t go bankrupt to these movies failing so they’re willing to try whatever short game works. And if it makes money, it makes money if it doesn’t it’s the creative team’s problem but the constant bombing is what got their attention personally I’m excited to see what Marvel has got in store, but if this fails, I will be the biggest hater for disgracing Rdj legacy
I can see why people think it’s a cash grab but at the same time there is a lot of history between those two it’s not the worst idea they have pulled but the whole she hulk actor saying that shit is just ignorant especially if a child’s mind is growing and subject to change
On the one hand, im in agreement that Doom should have went to another actor. And that all of this is all very messey On the other hand, if they keep the mask on, Robert could be incredible as Doom. And out of all the marvel charcters Dr Doom is the one most deserving of an incredible actor. My only concern is they are take the bait, aka are gonna do what we are all hoping they dont and bring in spiderman to add extra tension and a mask removal for a undeserved emotional layer.
The one potential saving grace is that maybe RDJ is playing a Doctor Doom variant, I imagine that he'll appear in Fantastic Four First Steps in the post credit scene since the Fantastic Four will probably be discovering the multiverse in that film. I imagine that Doom will just find the space in the multiverse where the council of Kangs are hiding and just bring an army of doom bots with him to wipe out all the Kang variants. Any appearance that this Doom could make afterward would just further set up his rise to power, especially if Marvel invokes the Parliament of Doom for Avengers Doomsday. This means that Cillian Murphy could play the 616 Doom after Secret Wars.
You have more of a plan than Marvel Studios does. Lol People need to be honest that they do not have a plan and are just making stuff up as they go along.
Facts! I love Rdj as an actor, but I don't think he should've been dr.doom. I don't care if he's a variant. It should've been a new face. Also everyone in Disney hates hulk and they can't change my mind.
There are many stories in which Doom is actually Tony as a plot twist. You see that a lot for other characters in comics too. That’s a huge problem with the multiverse tbh. But this just seems desperate. It doesn’t seem like they actually want to write a good story on how/if RDJ’s Tony Stark somehow became Dr. Doom. This is just a last stitch call to bring back an ace player to draw out old fans and prey on the nostalgia.
I’m kinda excited to see what they do with Doctor Doom and Spider-Man! It seems like something Spider-Man would lose sleep over. He’d probably lose it or something. Idk, I just wanna see their dynamic!
I’m going to give Robert a chance to pull this off, but I can’t help but feel like this was purely a corporate decision. I will say, though, this does make me very nostalgic for the what if, called “devil in the armor” where Dr. Drew literally stole Tony’s body and vice versa
Giancarlo could’ve totally played Magneto. At first I thought no way right (partially because of the race swap) but I’m convinced that Giancarlo would do such a good job that they wouldn’t make the race a big deal but more focus on the being that is magneto.
the thing is, the reason they're casting him is for course correcting, because of how much of a failure phase 4 has been like you said. they need star power and some who they know can pull this off, so yeah im excited because narratively, the universes greatest hero becomes the multiverses greatest conqueror
Pepper Potts 'bout to bite the curb in 4K
Demigah for black panther?
@@bryanyoung22 I will be in the 'Flags Of Our Fathers' Motion Comic Movie
Its probably gonna be a multiverse movie and this is a variant of Tony Stark
She became a irl snake oil sale's men after that role so i say that happened a long time ago
imagine demigah in those rap battle videos (the ones that put obama against fucking walter white)
The shehulk slander was perfect
Slander would imply there was a lie being said.
I will forever slander that show
@@Demigahplease do I hate that show more than I hate anchovy pizza
@Demigah why did she get mad? That just shows these mfs just want money and don't care about the IP. And they're using the press like a disgruntled nba player forcing themselves to another team. Bob gotta go.
@@official_ny_kings7674 Some people just can't take not being the center of attention.
It feels desperate ngl. After years of fan casts for Dr Doom only for it to be RDJ it just comes off as a ploy to get more people interested
It is.
It isn’t
Only one way to find out
Could have been;
1 - Kyle Ren
2 - Stan Edgar
3 - Scarecrow
4 - Anybody New
yea everyone can smell the desperation of this choice and RDJ is making one hell of a payday.
I think RDJ will do good because he’s a fantastic actor, but there’s just so many reasons for him to NOT be Doctor Doom. There are better ways to save a franchise than this Marvel/Disney
Exactly. He can play the role for sure, especially given the right directors, but, he just didn't need to fill this role
Being a good actor doesn't mean you can play any role, Denzel Washington shits on RDJ but he would be a horrible Doom.
@@nerothanomad2384 true but I'd be cool with him coming to play another big time villain in the MCU hell if we're lucky we could get him to play brother voodoo
@@byronrush9802absolutely not. I feel like people don't actually care to learn who these characters are you guys just see a character and just think "hey they look somewhat similar or they're the same ethnicity they'll totally work, who cares if they actually fit." Even if Denzel we're interested in superhero films he would look extremely stupid in a costume like I said it's not for everybody just because you're a good actor does not mean you can play every role. Leonardo DiCaprio would've been a silly ass Spider-Man and on top of that their star power outshines the character it's the Will Smith Suicide Squad effect you would just see Denzel. RDJ worked as Iron Man because like Iron Man he was a D-List druggy and degenerate he was literally Tony Stark in real life minus the genius and the suit. The MCU was successful largely because they understood the characters and cast them accordingly to those characters.
Chiwatel Ejiofor should've been Brother Voodoo and not Mordo.
Deadpool quote number 1098:
“They’re gonna work him til he’s 90”
For real. We’ve been denied Sherlock Holmes because he’s stuck being a superhero.
Haha you quote woke pool?
Imagine if MF DOOM was still alive and they revealed him to be doctor doom shit would be history
Shit with how glazed he was i thought he was
Takes the mask off..
"OH MY GOD! IT'S DOOM! DRESSED AS DOOM!"
2:23 No. NO!
If children cannot consent and be allowed alcohol, then they aren’t young enough to understand the consequences and risks of changing gender.
Let them grow and understand themselves!
I’m an adult and I’m still discovering myself.
I know what it’s like to question my gender, and I’m thankful I didn’t do so in this environment.
Apologies for this rant, but that crap sets me off like no other!
You're absolutely correct. A child will beg for a toy, you get it for them, they discard it the next day. But if my child tells me he wants to cut his family jewels off, I'm supposed to let him? HIS MIND IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE
That was so cringe
Her show deserves to get trashed
@@Demigah Honestly anyone who legitimately thinks that it's ok for a child's gender to be changed should be put on a watchlist.
@@vimtocat1741fuck that, take the child away and put them under CPS
Not to mention the amount of data shows that it goes wrong most of the time, sometimes resulting in the word youtube will remove if I comment.
Just why, millions of years of evolution degraded.
This will be hilarious. RDJ is gonna walk away with a fat check and Disney is going to lose the Marvel property. A hilarious trade in late stage capitalism
The next thing you know, Dr. Doom is going to be like, "I hate you 3000"
Morgan Stark getting used as bait for a mf that ain't her dad. On some Wanda type BS
@@Demigah That's probably going to be a plot point
We should start a meme on that ngl
@@disgruntledfoxhe's probably going to say it to Spidey because he's the "chosen one" or he says it after Peter sees Doom's face
@@FreshFalcon we really should
Should’ve casted Thanos’ cousin TheAnus to be Doctor Doom
Lol true
Should've got Jon Hamm
Shouldve been you BigYoshi
2:31 it’s always people w/o kids telling parents how to raise theirs
It feels desperate. Like they're trying everything in their power to get SOMEONE to clap in the theatre again.
Demigah for Dr Doom
That would anger people more 😂😂
@@Demigahagreed, but you should be red hood in a movie 😊
@@supercdog3128 why don't we make him trans wonder woman
@@Demigah true. i respect how based you are, but we have reached a point where there are far too many race swaps. i know i sound like a racist saying it (or can be mistaken for one), but it would be nice to have characters be visually accurate. that's one of the ways people tell one character from another beyond just the costume. batman has a distinct look, t'challa has a distinct look as an obvious brother from africa (or at least of african decent), tony stark has a distinct look that RDJ captured PERFECTLY! chris evans captured steve rogers' look and mannerisms perfectly!
Well he's great Playing Reverse Flash tho 😂
I watch that clip so many times I imagine him being thawne during this Rant Lol😂
2:17 😂my favorite part
“Just a business transaction on both parts.”
THANK YOU. I’ve been saying this for a few days now since it was announced. I love RDJ but it just screams desperation.
I didn’t know about the She-Hulk appearing in Deadpool & Wolverine thing though. Jesus 😬🤢
Just why did RDJ need over 80 million dollars just to act?
@@Demigah I know. It’s an *INSANE* amount of money. Can’t justify that shite.
It also speaks volumes about his genuine love for the MCU over a fat pay cheque 😂
I care more about my kid not becoming homeless this whole changing gender thing does not helping kid become success it just gonna make kid feel more insecure about their identity. Being yourself does not mean going to a surgeon to change your body completely
@@DemigahI mean he is RDJ and he IS coming back so I understand why he’s getting a lot of money it’s js making it feel more fake
When your first reaction to a reveal is 'why though ?', yeah its problematic, unless him looking like tony has a plot significance there's no good reason as to why they couldn't cast someone else as doom.
I wasn't even shocked, I was more annoyed than anything, because his death was much more powerful than him taking up another role
@@Demigah It's still too early to say how good or bad this'll turn out and I haven't really been following the MCU close enough to know how good or bad the current overarching narrative is for the Avengers movie.
Even with plot significance it's kinda lazy. Both in terms of story, company reputation, and filming
Cillian Murphy would have been the perfect Doom
Cillian Murphy or another would have been Peak!!! Bruh Why Disney Keep on Screwing us, I'm sick of it!!! Amazing video Btw 💪🏾💪🏾
They better be trolling us.
She Hulk twerking will forever be the MCU low point.
1:03 It looks like he used the infinity stones to change race.
The *Pass* is mine.. it is... inevitable
Disney thinks bringing RDJ will save Marvel 😂
It won't, he'll just have a fatter paycheck this time round
Lol
A MUCH fatter paycheque this time round
@@Demigah for sure
He is
@@juancarlosrivera5689 don’t count on it
If Warner was smart they would hire Giancarlo Esposito as lex Luthor.
That would have been peak cinema
But instead we got Beast from X Men First Class
@@Demigah truly?
Man, Warner is run by idiots
He did voice Lex in the Harley Quinn show
Why are you trying to race swap characters?
Exactly
We need someone that it’s serious and not dead
I see some honest potential. Risks aren’t risks if there’s no possibility of failure🤷🏽♂️
4:47 sounds like what Warner Bros has been doing with DC fans for years.
If Majors had been better received, Disney could have easily forgiven this. But since Phase 4 wasn't popular and Majors wasn't a big actor, he was expendable. If he had made money though they would have let him walk.
I'm excited but scared for it i know I'll still definently be watching RDJs return and I hope it goes well
All the new faces in the mcu either HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING (Moonknight and Shang Chi) OR THEH JUST SUCKKKKKK (she hulks bitch ass)
Moon Knight should be Rated R just like Deadpool & Wolverine
I don’t get why they couldn’t get back Julian McMahon 2 okay doom. He played Doom in the 2005 Fantastic 4 movies with Chris Evan’s, and Jessica alba. If they can bring back Wolverine and old early 2000s marvel faces why not bring him back and they can do it.
My beef with this is that RDJ is super expensive, when a hungry unknown would have been cheaper, less jarring and potentially as good or better. So many great ideas get crushed under re-shoots and budgets offsetting box office. It was an executive decision to get an expensive MCU-Alum into this role, and when his salary pushes the film into the red, it'll be an executive decision to call "Sweet-Baby" to add broad appeal to the film in reshoots hoping to offset the cost.
I mean , if rdj doesn’t play a variant of doom im actually gonna be pissed .
Recycling is a new trend with marvel...smh..
You’re close to 100K subs, be ready for that play button :D
It genuinely scares me
@@Demigah I hope that one day I can get as big as you are
I'm gonna let them cook with what they did with Deadpool and Wolverine giving Ryan full creative control.
That was more Ryan Reynolds than Marvel and Disney, tho
Jeremy Renner and Josh Brolin were accused of the same thing.
Yet they fired Jonathan Majors ?!
Make it make sense.
I will make it make sense. Both Jeremy Renner and Josh Brolin were accused of doing similar things. Key word: accused.
Renner was accused of some very awful things, indicating that he was abusing their daughter. Yet, she's fine having shared custody? With a man that supposedly did something like that to their daughter? Nah, that means she is either a moron, a monster or a liar.
Josh Brolin was arrested for a domestic incident in 2004. Diane Lane, his wife at the time, dropped the charges inmediately after, saying it was a misunderstanding. Then there's a bar incident involving other actors, you don't really get much.
The most important thing here, is that none of them were convicted of anything while having a contract with Disney. Hell, they haven't had a criminal conviction ever!
I can't speak for Jonathan Majors. I don't know the facts of the case. But comparisons can't be made when the contexts are so different.
@@Katsu_ragi Yea, the contexts are different.
One actually did the deed, the other was defending himself.
The guy defending himself was convicted and the abusers are scott free.
@@SCM-ol5sw you seem so certain... What makes you so qualified to disregard the authorities judgement? I get doubting them, and questioning them, of course. But you are actively saying two individuals are guilty of crimes they haven't been charged not convicted for. What is your proof? Because the facts are, Renner's wife's claims make no sense, and Brolin has said multiple times that Diane can explain the situation if everybody want to know, but she remains silent.
And, most importantly, they were not hired nor had any convictions while being employed by Disney. Those details matter.
@@Katsu_ragi First off, dont think you need any qualifications to share an opinion. But if that's not the case, then your mouth is the first that needs to be closed shut.
@@Katsu_ragi Secondly, since you ask about proof a lot, theres a video of Majors trying to get away from the so-called "Victim", yet he was convicted and was unjustly fired. A man was convicted for defending himself, but you seem to lack the brain cells to grasp the situation.
It all about the money 💰 🤑 💸
If i remember right, jonathan Majors had it in his contract that only he could play kang. I would guess that's because he knew the multiverse would leave Marvel open to recast him if they wanted.
After the She Hulk 4th wall break, nothing can save the MCU. Wholly shit.
Apart from the RDJ casting I do feel better about Doom being the villain for a new Avengers movie. Mainly because, the supposed big bad of a big event film like Avengers, Kang, had already been shown being defeated in two other projects. Ik it’s that variant bs and all but, after more than one subpar appearance, Kang for a big event film like Avengers 5 just feels cheap
I agree with everything you said. Which is why I stopped watching Marvel movies when they merged with Disney.
3:14 TRANSFORMERS ONE: Unfurtunately, that's actually not true 😢
Nobody was excited for the Kang Dynasty after Quantumania so switching out Kang for Doom is appropriate and RDJ even originally auditioned for the role of Doom in the 2005 Fantastic Four so I say just let them cook.
Cillian Murphy was right there and they didn’t get him! He would have been perfect as Doom! Also She Hulk’s actress’s stance on kids being able to transition is disgusting!
She's a disgusting woman for her mindset alone
No, she just said kids should be allowed to be who they want to be
What makes you think that Cillian would want to be in a superhero film??
@@juancarlosrivera5689 no,she tell CHILDREN if they want to change their genders then they have to surgery on their body.
And sadly she is not the only one, war machine (Don Cheadle) used a "protect trans kids" T-shirt, Gamora (Zoe Saldana) raises her kids as if they don't have a gender, there are probably more, because Hollywood actors are kinda delusional.
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I with you they should recasted kang as Mahershala Ali. Set up like theres an uprising within the council of kang using him
Hes already blade
@@juancarlosrivera5689 HE might not be with all the issues they're running into
Regarding the Kang recast issue, it's been reported that Jonathan Majors possibly had a clause that only he could play Kang and all of his variants. Since he got fired, I'm not sure how that clause wasn't null and voided given that Marvel just replaced the character all together. But Variety reported that Marvel was looking to replace Kang with Doom after Quantumania underperformed at the box office, Jonathan Majors' legal problems and guilty verdict just made the choice easy for Disney. And to be honest, I'm with them. After Loki season 2, Kang just became really irrelevant and even as a hardcore Marvel fan, Kang's backstory and variants do get really redundant after a while.
I mean to be fair doesn't Doctor Doom have a mask that he legit never takes off
idk bout comic accuracy, cuz if they have good writing and directors the movie can still be good. like man of steel for example. but yeah everything else, you spittin fax
He wanted to be Doom in the first place in the OG Fantastic 4 so this is kinda cool I just hope they do well with the story
Cillian murphy as doom would have been perfect
Bro i didn’t even think about Murphy playing Dr Doom. That would’ve been fantastic. Now im mad im getting robbed of that
If they were going to to bring back rdj why not just make him into a evil variant of himself of course im referring to superior ironman but that's not all i feel like they should've recasted johnathan majors or at least give him a second chance but nope they went with the opposite instead.
But just imagine an alternative universe where we got a fan favorite actor playing doom while kang dynasty still happens then secret wars introduces superior ironman who's a secondary villan and the movie ends with those three in a vicious battle that resets the mcu
When Christian bale was announced as gor, we all were ecstatic. Thor love and thunder was the most painful marvel movie i have sat through, you can argue some have been worse but none of those you went into with expectations anyway. Now you could find an incredible actor to play dr doom for a lot less than what they are paying rdj, but are we really pretending it would be enough?
Cillian murphy is an amazing actor... but he also doesn't give two whole damn shits for the mcu. These are the same fans who fan casted john krazinski as the smartest man alive and the energy and enthusiasm he summoned to his role that only lasted 2 minutes was akin to an actual potato.
RDJ as doom is 100% a break glass in case of an emergency but atleast they finally acknowledged we're in one. This is the guy who had to fight for his casting because of his past despite having an off the charts screen test. Only Favreau believed in him, they proved everyone else wrong and gave the mcu wheels.
Remembering that doom is almost always wearing his mask and has a melted face, here's a reminder of the other times we have seen the same person pull off different marvel performances
Cable and Thanos
Johnny Storm and Steve Rogers
Miguel O'Hara, Moon Knight and Apocolypse
Micro and now The Thing
Ghost Rider and Spider Noir
Cottenmouth, Prowler and possibly Blade???
There's a solid chance they don't ever address the fact it's "tony stark" under the mask. RDJ is more than capable of making the two performances unique.
Let him cook.
This is exactly why I steer clear of the MCU. Unless it's deadpool. Pirated both deadpool movies this year and rly enjoyed both, the first one especially. I actually wanna go and watch 3 in the cinemas if my mum gives me money for it.
Personally I love RDJ’s return but you do bring up valid points
Totally ! I feel like In MCU every time we see his face it reminded us of Tony. Stark .he can play a villain but just not in MCU .. it just weird because he been playing Tony Stark for years and suddenly we have to associate his face to someone else
Bro Cillian Murphey would've been perfect
What's with Mcu giving random Marvel characters an independent show?
My biggest issue about making RDJ Dr. Doom is that marvel really needs to make levek on fan service to actually make some money not quality
Marvel is getting DESPERATE, first they gave Ryan creative control (best decision made ever) and pretty much begged him to make a good movie, now this, which I'm still not sure about, I'll have to wait.
I agree with you that casting Robert Downey Jr as Doctor Doom with no build up is problematic. My stance on this is that it just screams a safety net move especially with hiring the Russo's back when they initially said that they didn't want to direct anymore Marvel projects until the end of the decade. I think that Marvel looked at their failures and looked at the Russo's failures since Endgame and just took advantage of Robert saying that he was "open minded" to returning to the MCU post Oscar win and just said, "name your price." There were easier ways to get RDJ back in the MCU, all they had to do was make Armor Wars. This is the biggest safety net move I've ever seen in my life.
I honestly agree. I don't think Marvel should be repeating any old faces back (even as a new/different character). And while I also agree that RDJr is a good actor, I don't um.. I don't think this roll is really for him.
I'd be lying if I said I'm not worried because ( like everyone else)I wanna finally see Doctor Doom in his full glory properly presented, and of course RDJ wasn't my first choice, the guy has potential but im not gonna be glazing like a handful of others are, so until then I'll see where this goes
The marvel haters are crazy. This is literally perfect. It makes the story more interesting we’re gonna see reaction of different heroes that care about Tony and not want to fight a look-alike. Y’all just be hating too much bro get a life.
Besides an actor he can play the part
finally no more deadpool spoilers
Edit: i spoke to soon. i see short clips and it time to kms. (i only watched the first trailer only)
2:42 nice Deadpool and wolverine reference
Disney doesn’t understand what makes their audience want to enjoy it.
They lost their spark a decade plus ago
@@Demigah And I’m not surprised when other stuff like the DCU becomes more popular and something that gives us what we want.
@@nestamanzi3067 keep telling yourself that little bro cause DC is never gonna be as popular as Marvel. They lost everything.🤣
@@spidercrash Explain why the MCU isn’t better as time passes, then. I want you to sit down and prove it because Disney is milking it with nostalgia.
@@nestamanzi3067 Deadpool and Wolverine makes ur opinion irrelevant to be honest, and nobody is using nostalgia😭🙏 get a life average mcu hater🤣
There are so many reasons why I don’t watch Marvel anymore and I think I found a new one and also they taking my money
Won’t everyone be rooting for Dr Doom ? For RDJ ? Does Disney really think fans will root for Captain Marvel over RDJ ? It’s a train wreck.,
They gonna go with the direction of him being from another alternate universe. Where he became Dr Doom, but I wanted someone else to be Dr Doom rather than casting an actor who did his last role as Iron Man. His death is an awesome way to end the character's legacy. Bringing RDJ is a dumb and desperate way to save their flop MCU films.
I’m a bit skeptical about RDJ being Doctor Doom. One one hand, I would’ve preferred another actor to take on the character. But on the other, we’ve seen how good RDJ can act outside the cool guy Tony Stark archetype, so for him to play another Marvel character so wildly different from Iron Man can potentially be interesting. And depending on the direction they take with Victor Von Doom, if it is the original character and not a Tony Stark variant, RDJ could pull it off.
Remember that this is a character that we only ever see wearing his mask because of the accident he had with the Fantastic Four which left his face permanently disfigured, so they don’t need to rely so heavily on RDJ’s face.
I feel you. I really hope his look is drastically different so we don't need to act as if he doesn't look familiar
We all know why they didn’t give Jonathan the same curiosity as Robert down jr
Is LITTERALLY R*ClSM
It was already insulting when they didn that to the Maximoff Twins, & now they crossed the line with Victor
Why does they hate so mucho Romani people?
4:31 i honestly think they cant recast him, i heard that his contract prevented anyone else from being kang in the mcu.
Also they didn't really drop majors just because he lost the case, it was because they didn't know how long it would take. During the time majors made it seem like it would be over quickly but it went on way too long to the point they had to chsnge things. If the contract with majors was true, then they had no choice to not recast him. But if they did recast kang but have him taken out by doom then honestly it just shows they lost faith in kang entirely. Its their fault for letting the one from ant man 3 get killed by ants, because it lessen how much of a threat he was.
Meh, I dont really mind it. Doom is a character Marvel can not afford to fail with. Especially after the Kang flop. He is the most safe bet for success. We also haven't had Ironman in a movie for 5 years now, about time this comes out it will be 7. So him being tied to that character sucks. So Im happy they are going safe with Doom.
If he’s in two movies then I hope in the first he’s doom, and then for the second he can be more of a variant Tony. If you understand what I mean.
I think the way they should introduce Dr Doom is have him casually kill every kang in the multiverse.
The vary announcement of it reeked of desperation. Cillian Murphy would've been a perfect Doom, but at this point... he's way too good for the MCU.
I'd love James Gunn to find a role for him. Even as Scarecrow again but on a bigger scale
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They LITERALLY could have made new actor Kill this kang and kill Every Others as he is Truly from the future and they would have this end up showing the real threat of Kang but nope cuz that he's replaced LITERALLY hole movie doesn't matter not even the show and RDJ is cool but makes no sense and it scares me that they did this and learning why means it won't be better then people think
You agreed to stay away
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Mickey Mouse: “Till you’re 90!!!”
Someone who has a lot of experience being the bad guy should've been Doom. Doom's intimidating, ruthless and highly intelligent. I can't really imagine RDJ's voice with Doom.
Contrary to what people believe executives aren’t stupid worse they’re rich they don’t lose money on these movies. They won’t go bankrupt to these movies failing so they’re willing to try whatever short game works. And if it makes money, it makes money if it doesn’t it’s the creative team’s problem but the constant bombing is what got their attention personally I’m excited to see what Marvel has got in store, but if this fails, I will be the biggest hater for disgracing Rdj legacy
I hard agree with you on the Kang point. A villain like that shouldn’t be scrapped. They should’ve recast him.
I can see why people think it’s a cash grab but at the same time there is a lot of history between those two it’s not the worst idea they have pulled but the whole she hulk actor saying that shit is just ignorant especially if a child’s mind is growing and subject to change
On the one hand, im in agreement that Doom should have went to another actor. And that all of this is all very messey
On the other hand, if they keep the mask on, Robert could be incredible as Doom. And out of all the marvel charcters Dr Doom is the one most deserving of an incredible actor.
My only concern is they are take the bait, aka are gonna do what we are all hoping they dont and bring in spiderman to add extra tension and a mask removal for a undeserved emotional layer.
The one potential saving grace is that maybe RDJ is playing a Doctor Doom variant, I imagine that he'll appear in Fantastic Four First Steps in the post credit scene since the Fantastic Four will probably be discovering the multiverse in that film. I imagine that Doom will just find the space in the multiverse where the council of Kangs are hiding and just bring an army of doom bots with him to wipe out all the Kang variants. Any appearance that this Doom could make afterward would just further set up his rise to power, especially if Marvel invokes the Parliament of Doom for Avengers Doomsday. This means that Cillian Murphy could play the 616 Doom after Secret Wars.
You have more of a plan than Marvel Studios does. Lol
People need to be honest that they do not have a plan and are just making stuff up as they go along.
Facts! I love Rdj as an actor, but I don't think he should've been dr.doom. I don't care if he's a variant. It should've been a new face. Also everyone in Disney hates hulk and they can't change my mind.
If he isn’t iron man variant it’ll be great
Cillian Murphy as Doctor Doom would be the best fucking character
There are many stories in which Doom is actually Tony as a plot twist. You see that a lot for other characters in comics too. That’s a huge problem with the multiverse tbh.
But this just seems desperate. It doesn’t seem like they actually want to write a good story on how/if RDJ’s Tony Stark somehow became Dr. Doom. This is just a last stitch call to bring back an ace player to draw out old fans and prey on the nostalgia.
I personally don't dislike RDJ as Doctor Doom. I really see a lot of potential. I just hope they execute it properly.
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RDJ as Doom is basically Celtics Shaq
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I’m kinda excited to see what they do with Doctor Doom and Spider-Man! It seems like something Spider-Man would lose sleep over. He’d probably lose it or something. Idk, I just wanna see their dynamic!
I’m going to give Robert a chance to pull this off, but I can’t help but feel like this was purely a corporate decision. I will say, though, this does make me very nostalgic for the what if, called “devil in the armor” where Dr. Drew literally stole Tony’s body and vice versa
Giancarlo could’ve totally played Magneto. At first I thought no way right (partially because of the race swap) but I’m convinced that Giancarlo would do such a good job that they wouldn’t make the race a big deal but more focus on the being that is magneto.
the thing is, the reason they're casting him is for course correcting, because of how much of a failure phase 4 has been like you said. they need star power and some who they know can pull this off, so yeah im excited because narratively, the universes greatest hero becomes the multiverses greatest conqueror
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