@@bsebire Should be true in both versions, I don't remember them changing it for D2R, but mace mastery improves all blunt weapons including staves and wands so you've got options
@@erichardesty430 Pre-LoD set but it would be funny if Sander was the in-between of the barbarians in Harrogath and Nihlathak being a necromancer. Barbs even have nearly the same fcr breakpoints as sorc
just in case you didn't know posion damage doesnt stack in game its only base off of what ever the most powerfull application is, multi casting posion nova only resets the timer so when boss fighting its easier to just wait for it to run out before reapplying, also as a guy that loves to main nova necro the trang's set has always been my go to for him just because of how fun it is to play! Thanks for the awesome content dude!
Yeah I know but it feels nice to spam spells haha. I adored this run as well, I had a ton of fun with this. Poison nova necro is one of my favorite builds so getting to do a decked out one for a video was great. No problem, thank you for watching!
Enjoyed the video, as always! I just levelled a necromancer, who is now wearing full trangs. No Death’s Web yet, so he’s a summoner with the important function of being perfect to play when I am lazy/tired/a cat sitting on my lap requires one hand petting him. I normally don’t care for challenge runs, but I might have thought of the most difficult one possible. “No skipping NPC dialogue run”
I'm currently using the Trang-Oul set for my Summonmancer. It's what I decided to use for my first attempt at a Hell run. It's doing great since the summoner build isn't terribly cast-heavy. I managed to beat the Ancients on my first try. The only reason I didn't kill Baal last night is because by pure garbage luck, Uber Diablo showed up as Baal's first "wave" and I was terribly underprepared for that in a solo run. I get why the set receives criticism, but it's far from useless. Glad to see someone making a video utilizing it.
@@thenuclearrabbit Oh, agreed haha. I beat it yesterday for the first time. Also burned through the Hell Cow Level. I'm so happy to start the first time grind. Uber Diablo was just a funny footnote in the path to a first win
I like how you play the builds I was theorycrafting since 2000s, but was always too lazy to actually fully commit to try them. I can live my weird D2 fantasies through you
Yeah, the overall issue is Death's Web is really hard to find, I have yet to find it after 4 years of D2R. Somehow I don't believe I would enjoy poison necro as much without it but maybe one day I just build it anyway. In the end, corpse explosion and summon is always used - which is op on level 1 both.
I did trang suit campaign a few ladders ago with novamancer and apart from the dismal cast frames I thought he was fairly good. Nice FRW, easy resists and a good chunk of - enemy res baked into the set. I used it to farm up til around level 90 then kitted him out with better gear. Definitely liked it better overall than Mav set bowzon or IK barb.
That was an awesome playthrough! Funny that everyone shits on that set because of the breakpoints, all while not needing to worry about it because the set just slaughters everything!
I play Summoner Trang Oul with a nice amulett, 2 20 Quad res and teleport. Not the best Necro but very funny and it looks pretty cool. Thank you for this video✌🏻
My guess for Sander's is they thought people may want a set to accommodate bonking in the early game with a necro wand. Back when mana pots were hard to come by maybe.
Infernal Sign belt gives Half Freeze Duration with 3 set pieces. But if you have 3 set pieces then you have the full set bonus of Cannot Be Frozen. Nice.
Man that looks fun. I had a lot of fun with a poison dagger necro but it falls off in Hell difficulty much like this one doesn't. Nice to find a good set, there's a lot that don't feel like they change much.
The golden swirls the others get are a blessing from the heavens. Necro supports the balance and not only the heavens (this comes through much more in the books). So he instead has this transformation happen. The sin fades cause she isn't exactly on the up and up with the heavens either and becomes a true stealthy assassin iirc
I never understood the hate for this set. I've always farmed for it and used it on my HC and SC necros. And I used the fire spells too because i could. 😊
The game is very fun when you place some restrictions. Last time I did HC SSF WW only barb, no other builds and no teleport allowed. I remember I was stuck at Hell Act 1 from 78 to 87 level trying to make 2 Oats, I was very unlucky with the rune drops. Now I am doing no teleport, no rune words run with a friend. Next I am thinking about HC SSF WW barb, no runes at all and no teleport. Again only WW build allowed :D
I use multiple accounts for recording these video's but I basically have everything but 4 items on both of them. I'm missing tyreals, cranium basher, schaefers and stormlash. I've found everything else atleast 3 times and most things more than that
Hilariously, i just made a bladesin and used Sanders wand. The huge amount of cold damage and mana leech outclassed everything i could find for awhile. wouldve loved the whole set lol
Im doing a blaze run on sorc. The damage gets real wonky when you step over the same area multiple times. Give it a shot I think you'll like it. For even more flames, add some firewall to the mix and maybe meteor
If i am correct - this set (Sander) is from the beginning of d2. There were no mana potions to buy - you had to drop them (hence dmg+mana leech). I could see this working on early d2 life as a pretty decent set if not godly for low lvl's. Now it is... well... akara was asking to buy it xD
the set is good even without Death's web, considering how cheap it is. I never understood why the slow FCR was an issue for some people considering that poison nova deals damage over 2 seconds.
People can't understand that being less powerful can be more fun. I mean I made this entire video about how strong the set turned out and people are still massively shitting on it in the comments
Corpse explosion spamming and putting up fast bone wall/prison if you're leaning on that for defense. Honestly if it weren't for not being able to teleport efficiently I don't think I'd use anything else for novamancer myself as the set does have a lot going for it and for your nova the cast rate is pretty meaningless. Seems to me there's players like Rabbit and Looter for whom the game is just clearing the campaign, and there are other people who feel the game doesn't even begin until you have enigma, a full pack of 45 lifers, 3/20/20s, 5/5 faceted JMOD and hit your max break points.
In my opinion, 90% of the builds in d2r are completely viable, even the unique ones, most of them can find their purpose, it depends on how you play (in a SSF n-h, all the unique ones can find their purpose in the created build/in the holy grail, after you find HR, you can choose runewords like Grief and put any other unique in the shade, but that remains your choice. If you give up the 3,4 runewords that are truly OP, the unique ones like Schaefer, dead cleaver, etc.. can find their purpose, but as I said, it remains what we choose ...Many are excited about mods such as Pod, Pd2, d2r reimag, d2r remmod but playing them I saw that they are more inclined towards Path of exile where there is high density and a Shoot kill that I honestly don't really like... the only thing I would have introduced a Loot filter, stack gems, the rest I would prefer what is in the original over these modes where everything seems ultra GG, OP (this is what I saw after playing this game for 20 years and all these mods
I've started getting into mods cause I get tons of requests for it. But yeah agreed on most of them being completely over the top. Once I'm done using all the sets for a run I'm going to try out all the uniques to see how strong I can make them cause I like puzzles like that
Glad to see you are having fun. Would like to see more shared stash runs, where you can skip rune/gear farming and show off other off meta builds. GL and keep up the good work!
I have been mixing more of them in recently and fully plan on doing more of them. I've already recorded a couple more full set runs. They are a very nice change of pace from the pure hc ssf runs
@@thenuclearrabbit necromancy can lead to all sorts of powers, some say unnatural even to the physique. no but serious they have 1 melee attack for the dagger, have a bone shield to assist being in close range, and for the expansion there off hand item gives extra poison damage on hit.
@@thenuclearrabbit I dont know man? Reading other comments, it seems like there is no consensus. GGM & Alzorath put it at #1. Llama put it in the A tier. SweetPhil put it at #2. I think the reason why is b/c it doesnt lock up you mainhand, amy, rings or boots, giving you versaritility. There is only one other set that does this for you in the game and that is Tals, even that removes a amy slot, you still will be rocking Trangs gloves, and missing lowers elemental resist, +10% elemental damage without facets and CBF. Yes, add in runewords and uniques, then this set is not the best. Take them away and only rock rares and crafted items in the open slots....then you will be begging for this set. Great video, keep em coming.
Nope haven't done that one yet. It's been requested before but I have literal 100's of requested runs at this point so it'll get done "someday, eventually"
I'm quite sure that slow innate cast rate is a compensation for fast walk as vampire cannot run but walks with a speed of running, rather than a straight debuff.
I would like to see you try a normal->hell run with 0 grinding or farming. I think it would be interesting. Just play normally, through each difficulty. Kill every enemy and explore evey nook and cranny and every optional dungeon and make do with whatever drops but never save and exit and reload to grind. Dont even have to do it all in one can still save and exit in between acts, just dont go back to previous acts.
Have u seen MrLlamasc Druid run with 45% mob density were he find a helmet that shoots poison nova from every hit plus frost nova? He just ran through everything and poison nova kept spamming so Llama didnt have to do anything just running through everything.
Sander's folly. I'm not a native English speaker, but I think this set helds his particularity in his name. Folly as madness, foolishness, stupidity, and well, the colour scheme (!) and bonuses do make sense: physical attributes and a caster type weapon. That's the Taboo the glove name is related to. Superstition and Paragon are inside the same theme I suppose, while the boot's are just a kind of joke Blizzard was incline to at that time, playing with the noun of a person -Sander, which for sure has some reference with the Blizzard North employee- to the tool -sander-, and the riprap (used for protection from water). And what character can use it? Well, a barb as a secondary weapon, but it's really bad with that, and the full set bonuses don't justify that really bad weapon. I would say Dragon Tail assassin: cold damage on the weapon is not that bad if coupled with 3 fpa which DT is capable of, and you could do well in late in late normal difficult and decently in nightmare. Also a blade fury assassin could beneficially use that set. Oh, yes, other combinations are for sure better in the same situation, but that applies to all other low level set too.
Oh man you went deep haha. DT sin could be fun to do with sanders yeah. I dno if the damage is good on the boots though, but that is for me to figure out and for people to enjoy watching me do. Yeah I'm not trying to be optimal I'm just trying to have fun/interesting setups
You can build stronger poison necro, without whole TO set, but it is strong enough to do anything. And nicest thing it has build in cheat death. If damage should kill you, you are instead transformed back to human form with 1hp and after few seconds you transforms back to activate new cheat death. Not sure if still works in D2R, but I used that a lot in D2LOD.
Just wanted to mention something about bladesin, since you seem to like them and i learned you had auto-aim on another of your videos. Bladesin really benefit you using a shortcut to stand where you are and use Blade Fury by aiming on the ground. This allow to hit several monsters in a row without having the windup animation. I don't know if it's even possible on console but if you have the game on pc it really strenghten the gameplay of the character. If you happen to not be able to use this, maybe this comment will help someone else.
PNova necro in general is pretty good (unless you find poison immunes), but necro is a 1-trick pony with CE. Though the set gives good bonus to poison dmg, imo the Dweb and sunder charm make the build much more efficient and fun to play. I'd say Trang-Oul is a feast or famine set, but that's true with almost every single usable sets. It's certainly not as garbage to play as like Berserker set barb or Cleglaw blade assassin, but is it really good? At best B tier.
I'd give it A tier in a heartbeat. I was doing players 8 pits at the same pace as my normal magicfinder and it had been a long time since I cleared the game that easily. I felt brutally overpowered all the way through, which happens rarely.
Full Trang-Oul set is not like BAD bad, it's just way worse than a proper poison necro gear (which include 3 trang pieces anyway). Death's Web (with a facet too!) is kind of hard to obtain and give huge DPS increase; Rotting Fissure grand charm makes monster's poison immunity broken and reduced it to 95% (and you can go even further with Lower Resists) that was not a thing back in a day, and i have a suspicion that all characters with some sort of elemental magic damage as a main source of damage with new Sunder charms kind of feels really powerful now. So Trang full set is not unplayable by any means, but still not that good in terms of minmaxing.
Video is hard to follow and jumps back and forth a few times. Here be timestamps: 2:30 Teeth until Andy? 2:50 ring +10 FCR, Tarnhelm +1, yew wand (+1), 3:15 stealth 3:30 bone spear until trang. 4:01 Duriel 4:20 clvl 27 - Sander 6:38 Mephi 7:40 Dia 10:05 Baal 10:40 Twitchthroe 10:45 Nightmare 11:00 Andy (nm) 11:05 Durry (clvl 42 that's serious...) 11:20 Homunculus (rare "shield") 11:30 Mephi (nm) 11:54 Dia (with A2 merc Ahab) 12:20 Baal (nm) 12:45 clvl 55, respec from bone spear to poison nova plus synergies and lower resist 13:10 TZ until clvl 65 to equip the set 15:10 points into clay golem (maxing out) and golem mastery. 15:50 Death's Web 16:00 NM TZ - Harlequin Crest - Mara 18:00 didn't know b/c as a vampire you run without losing your defense. 19:00 Act 4 somehow we skipped a bunch of bosses. 19:40 enter Hell 20:40 Hell Act 2 21:00 Hell Act 5 23:00 recap of bosses - trang oul set proven to kick ass. But OP used a bunch of sunder charms, not really fair since you need to beat the game... on HC.
I mean... It's *fun*... But gets absolutely destroyed comparably with the power house builds. Auradin, Hammerdin, Javason, Trapass, Hydra, Orb, Blizz and a bunch more
Only good I found about trang is that you can be in walk(non run) mode and have max block. Meaning you can tank. Necroes are not frail as they ether have summons or bone armor/wall/prission. Seeing you're casting is bad with trang set I would go with a summon/p nova hybrid on Hardcore.
People were saying the set is bad because it's not worth wasting a DWeb on, and back in the day there was no "Rotting Fissure" so that's quite a difference.
How can an item not be worth to use with something? Sorry I don't get that logic at all it's just an item. True no Sunder charm in ye olden days. But I'm sure I would have still very easily cleared the game without it
But still the firewall was a good backup-plan for immunes. It was never a bad set, just overlooked, because Enigma nearly ruled over all non-sorceress builds.
@@thenuclearrabbitamp damage is nice for Merc, dim vision is pretty nice for hardcore.. stops mobs from doing special attacks, iron maiden makes Andy kill herself in record time. Obviously you didn't need em because you're a gamer god, but they are nice to have 😆. Cool video though
@@thenuclearrabbit I love your videos! I’m positive you’ll beat it, and I’m positive I’ll enjoy every second of the suffering! Lol Thanks for the consideration!
If anyone from Blizzard s reading this.. Man you got to change some things.. Many skills are just not used at all... For example the Druids Firestorm looks so cool but it is not used.. and maybe with some buffs to the Mercenarys we would see others being used than the act 2 one..
Ill be honest, after playing Diablo 3, seeing any loot , be it rune or gold words make my heart skip with joy. So seeing a shako drop kindles my childhood heart no matter what
Not true, I ran a HC poison necro with full Trang and +3 poison Nova white wand. It wrecked. Trang has very high survivability, with high res and armor defence while running, great for HC. It's not best in slot of course, but it is still VEEERY good.
@@thenuclearrabbit agreed, i think it mainly SC players that always want to teleport. HC players know that teleport has a high risk of killing yourself, especially when not fully leveled and decked out yet.
Oh my problem is just that it makes the game trivial. I teleport just as agressively on hardcore as I used to on softcore I don't give a fuck anymore about my characters dying
Its so bad on console. Im playing on PS5, and cannot focus teeth skill. On PC the farther you click with the mouse the Teeth skill or Multiple shot with amazon is getting more focused, dealing more damage to a single monster.
And +skills on other gear pieces, and skiller also add extra. He would be just fine with spirit and garbo jewellery, but these is the reason why it skyrocket from "Yeah, decent" to "Omg, so good".
@@thenuclearrabbit It's a while I tried to play Natalyas, before D2R actually. I just couldn't think of a build that fit. For a Kicksin the boots are too weak, for a Trapsin it doesn't have enough + skills, and for a Ninja the weapon is too weak.
I don't understand why they haven't reworked soooo many of the horrible items in this game.. It would be so much better if they did just so said items would actually be used.. ::EDIT:: Also get shit on Disciple set
I'm convinced that Sander's set is actually a barb set since mace mastery increases wand damage
Oh sick good call! Best part is I can wear a second weapon and ignore the wand 😂
Gotta use 2 wands.
Is that true in LoD classic or only D2R? I want to make a dual sander's wand singer barb :D
@@bsebire Should be true in both versions, I don't remember them changing it for D2R, but mace mastery improves all blunt weapons including staves and wands so you've got options
@@erichardesty430 Pre-LoD set but it would be funny if Sander was the in-between of the barbarians in Harrogath and Nihlathak being a necromancer. Barbs even have nearly the same fcr breakpoints as sorc
Ko rune time- sorry, wrong video.
To be fair. I like Ko runes a ton as well. But not as much as mr. Looter haha
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just in case you didn't know posion damage doesnt stack in game its only base off of what ever the most powerfull application is, multi casting posion nova only resets the timer so when boss fighting its easier to just wait for it to run out before reapplying, also as a guy that loves to main nova necro the trang's set has always been my go to for him just because of how fun it is to play! Thanks for the awesome content dude!
Yeah I know but it feels nice to spam spells haha. I adored this run as well, I had a ton of fun with this. Poison nova necro is one of my favorite builds so getting to do a decked out one for a video was great.
No problem, thank you for watching!
Enjoyed the video, as always!
I just levelled a necromancer, who is now wearing full trangs. No Death’s Web yet, so he’s a summoner with the important function of being perfect to play when I am lazy/tired/a cat sitting on my lap requires one hand petting him.
I normally don’t care for challenge runs, but I might have thought of the most difficult one possible.
“No skipping NPC dialogue run”
yea no skip dialogue with full map clears. cant leave any demons behind!
Sorry that run is impossible. Can't do it.
Full map clear might be a thing I do at some point in the future. No dialogue skip just sounds boring to be honest.
I'm currently using the Trang-Oul set for my Summonmancer. It's what I decided to use for my first attempt at a Hell run. It's doing great since the summoner build isn't terribly cast-heavy. I managed to beat the Ancients on my first try. The only reason I didn't kill Baal last night is because by pure garbage luck, Uber Diablo showed up as Baal's first "wave" and I was terribly underprepared for that in a solo run. I get why the set receives criticism, but it's far from useless. Glad to see someone making a video utilizing it.
Oh man I get that it sucks but that is kind of hilarious haha
@@thenuclearrabbit Oh, agreed haha. I beat it yesterday for the first time. Also burned through the Hell Cow Level. I'm so happy to start the first time grind. Uber Diablo was just a funny footnote in the path to a first win
I like how you play the builds I was theorycrafting since 2000s, but was always too lazy to actually fully commit to try them. I can live my weird D2 fantasies through you
Great video, I've always thought people severely underrated the trangs set for a poison necro. Glad you enjoyed yourself. SSF melee sorc next? Lol
It's in the queue somewhere but definitely not next. The queue is looooong so I'm trying to knock out some shorter ones
@@thenuclearrabbit I'm sure with your luck you will get the required gear just while leveling up haha
Trang-Oul is really good for poison nova build, but in video it's all about Death's Web with poison facet. It's literally doubles the dps
Yeah, the overall issue is Death's Web is really hard to find, I have yet to find it after 4 years of D2R. Somehow I don't believe I would enjoy poison necro as much without it but maybe one day I just build it anyway. In the end, corpse explosion and summon is always used - which is op on level 1 both.
I was doing completely fine on players 8 even before the deaths web.
Just keep farming the andy/meph terror zones it's not as rare anymore I've found multiple of them at this point
@@thenuclearrabbitgood for you, Im still looking for it
I did trang suit campaign a few ladders ago with novamancer and apart from the dismal cast frames I thought he was fairly good. Nice FRW, easy resists and a good chunk of - enemy res baked into the set. I used it to farm up til around level 90 then kitted him out with better gear. Definitely liked it better overall than Mav set bowzon or IK barb.
Awesome video Sander, ehm I mean TNR!
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so for whatever reason youtube recommended your channel to me and i had to go back to d2r i guess! i really enjoy ur vids, subbed
That was an awesome playthrough! Funny that everyone shits on that set because of the breakpoints, all while not needing to worry about it because the set just slaughters everything!
I just used a build that doesn't require fcr on the bad fcr gear. It's like rocket science. But yeah it was superb :D
as usual very entertaining story telling, much liked🙂
Thank you!
I play Summoner Trang Oul with a nice amulett, 2 20 Quad res and teleport. Not the best Necro but very funny and it looks pretty cool. Thank you for this video✌🏻
No problem glad you liked it! Sick amulet
11 minutes ago!? I love your videos btw. I always loved the transformation sets even if they aren't good 😅
haha thank you! Oh you are in for a surprise :D
@@thenuclearrabbit You're right! I just finished the video and I was surprised.
this looks so fun!! Makes me really want to find a Dweb!
Andy and mephisto terror zones are your friends. I found like 5 of them in those in the span of a few months
Sanders set is good for a smite bolter, where you rely on casting Holy Bolt and use smite against magic immune enemies
Oh that sounds very fun! Definitely keeping that in mind when it's Sanders turn
Faster than light music caught me off guard. I approve!
Trang’s rocks , most of this season I was running it on HC , after getting enigma switched it up .
Nice! I always get bored once I get the enigma. The game just feels so trivially easy at that point.
My guess for Sander's is they thought people may want a set to accommodate bonking in the early game with a necro wand. Back when mana pots were hard to come by maybe.
Yeah that's probably it. But even for that it's not exactly good
Real request, shape shifting Druid but with bows only! That’d be so cool!
Bone bear is gg. But its a necro.
It's been requested before it's in the pile of things to do
NecroBear? Sounds like a fuzzy black metal album. Could be fun though
@@thenuclearrabbit I's gear dependent so to me is pricy. So I have never made one.
Faster Than Light soundtrack in the background fits nicely.
Thx!
Infernal Sign belt gives Half Freeze Duration with 3 set pieces. But if you have 3 set pieces then you have the full set bonus of Cannot Be Frozen. Nice.
I saw that but I'm saving the jokes on that for the Infernal video. People are already not getting the akara joke cause of how long I stayed on it 😅
Let’s go!!! Why not even use bone armor in norm. Respect the sack! GG vid as always broham
Thank you! I completely forgot about Bone armor 😂
Man that looks fun. I had a lot of fun with a poison dagger necro but it falls off in Hell difficulty much like this one doesn't. Nice to find a good set, there's a lot that don't feel like they change much.
Yeah Poison necro in hell was rough. I ended up having a 40 minute baal hell fight with Poison Dagger :')
Suicide branch in place of Sander's still gets you better stats than the full set bonus
I always found it interesting that this was the only set that literally changed your look
The golden swirls the others get are a blessing from the heavens. Necro supports the balance and not only the heavens (this comes through much more in the books). So he instead has this transformation happen. The sin fades cause she isn't exactly on the up and up with the heavens either and becomes a true stealthy assassin iirc
I never understood the hate for this set. I've always farmed for it and used it on my HC and SC necros.
And I used the fire spells too because i could. 😊
I want to do a dedicated fire run at some point just to see how good I can get it :)
I wished I could double-like it.
No worries! Just watching is great already. You watching means I get to keep doing this for a living :)
The game is very fun when you place some restrictions. Last time I did HC SSF WW only barb, no other builds and no teleport allowed. I remember I was stuck at Hell Act 1 from 78 to 87 level trying to make 2 Oats, I was very unlucky with the rune drops. Now I am doing no teleport, no rune words run with a friend.
Next I am thinking about HC SSF WW barb, no runes at all and no teleport. Again only WW build allowed :D
Yeah doing non-cookie cutter stuff is amazing and keeps the game fresh for sure. Good luck if you go for the next WW barb :)
Poison Nova is one of my favorite builds ever. Awesome SoM music 🎶
When I don't have to do it SSF I love it so much as well :D
Nice video thanks. Love trang ouls but I only have the gloves and armor. Do you have a grail shared stash?
I use multiple accounts for recording these video's but I basically have everything but 4 items on both of them. I'm missing tyreals, cranium basher, schaefers and stormlash. I've found everything else atleast 3 times and most things more than that
My partner who is also a necromancer always asks me for doing something with less level 1 necromancer skill.
I subbed for the 8 poison damage
Welcome!
Hilariously, i just made a bladesin and used Sanders wand. The huge amount of cold damage and mana leech outclassed everything i could find for awhile. wouldve loved the whole set lol
Ooh I can see it being ok on a Bladesin for sure. Good call!
Eld rune on the shield, safety amulet and you can reach 47% blocking while walking at full speed.
Surprising, my own experiences with the set in LoD was very different. Good stuff!
Immortal King run on the horizon?
Already recorded even. But not the next thing I'm going to edit.
Ill be patiently waiting for the fire necro run (hell only so you can wear the full trang set)
It'll be a while, but it's on the to-do list. So some day it will happen :D. I still need to do a lot of brainstorming on that one though.
Slap on Hoto for yourself and an act 3 merc with as much -fire res gear as you can. Probably the best bet
Yeah that seems like a good starting point.
Im doing a blaze run on sorc. The damage gets real wonky when you step over the same area multiple times. Give it a shot I think you'll like it. For even more flames, add some firewall to the mix and maybe meteor
It's in the requested runs queue somewhere. I have been wanting to do a no-teleport sorc though and this does fit very nicely
@@thenuclearrabbit it's great. Although I teleport a bit blaze makes you run so fast it's great fun to just be the speed
If i am correct - this set (Sander) is from the beginning of d2. There were no mana potions to buy - you had to drop them (hence dmg+mana leech). I could see this working on early d2 life as a pretty decent set if not godly for low lvl's. Now it is... well... akara was asking to buy it xD
Oh yeah that could definitely be the thing here. Oh well, I'll do 1 run with it and to Akara it goes haha
0:49 you've got my attention!
I'm so sorry haha. It will get done someday. I want to do a run with every set
the set is good even without Death's web, considering how cheap it is. I never understood why the slow FCR was an issue for some people considering that poison nova deals damage over 2 seconds.
Probably because they couldn't cast CE like a maniac
Yeah that tracks.
People can't understand that being less powerful can be more fun. I mean I made this entire video about how strong the set turned out and people are still massively shitting on it in the comments
Corpse explosion spamming and putting up fast bone wall/prison if you're leaning on that for defense.
Honestly if it weren't for not being able to teleport efficiently I don't think I'd use anything else for novamancer myself as the set does have a lot going for it and for your nova the cast rate is pretty meaningless.
Seems to me there's players like Rabbit and Looter for whom the game is just clearing the campaign, and there are other people who feel the game doesn't even begin until you have enigma, a full pack of 45 lifers, 3/20/20s, 5/5 faceted JMOD and hit your max break points.
Necro looks like warboy from mad max
In my opinion, 90% of the builds in d2r are completely viable, even the unique ones, most of them can find their purpose, it depends on how you play (in a SSF n-h, all the unique ones can find their purpose in the created build/in the holy grail, after you find HR, you can choose runewords like Grief and put any other unique in the shade, but that remains your choice. If you give up the 3,4 runewords that are truly OP, the unique ones like Schaefer, dead cleaver, etc.. can find their purpose, but as I said, it remains what we choose ...Many are excited about mods such as Pod, Pd2, d2r reimag, d2r remmod but playing them I saw that they are more inclined towards Path of exile where there is high density and a Shoot kill that I honestly don't really like... the only thing I would have introduced a Loot filter, stack gems, the rest I would prefer what is in the original over these modes where everything seems ultra GG, OP (this is what I saw after playing this game for 20 years and all these mods
I've started getting into mods cause I get tons of requests for it. But yeah agreed on most of them being completely over the top.
Once I'm done using all the sets for a run I'm going to try out all the uniques to see how strong I can make them cause I like puzzles like that
Glad to see you are having fun. Would like to see more shared stash runs, where you can skip rune/gear farming and show off other off meta builds. GL and keep up the good work!
I have been mixing more of them in recently and fully plan on doing more of them. I've already recorded a couple more full set runs. They are a very nice change of pace from the pure hc ssf runs
i swear that necromancer was meant to be a hybrid between martial and casting but was shifted away from melee.
With that physique? My man can't even lift up a 5 kg dumbbell
@@thenuclearrabbit necromancy can lead to all sorts of powers, some say unnatural even to the physique.
no but serious they have 1 melee attack for the dagger, have a bone shield to assist being in close range, and for the expansion there off hand item gives extra poison damage on hit.
This is what I call a challenge. But is it really?
:D
Stupid question. Is the health bar above bosses added in post production or is it a setting in game
It's the ps5 lay-out I don't do anything to it
Um...Trangs is literally the strongest set in D2.
That being said...all sets suck compared to runewords.
That does not seem to be the consensus. Yeah runewords are obviously better :)
@@thenuclearrabbit I dont know man? Reading other comments, it seems like there is no consensus.
GGM & Alzorath put it at #1. Llama put it in the A tier. SweetPhil put it at #2. I think the reason why is b/c it doesnt lock up you mainhand, amy, rings or boots, giving you versaritility. There is only one other set that does this for you in the game and that is Tals, even that removes a amy slot, you still will be rocking Trangs gloves, and missing lowers elemental resist, +10% elemental damage without facets and CBF.
Yes, add in runewords and uniques, then this set is not the best. Take them away and only rock rares and crafted items in the open slots....then you will be begging for this set.
Great video, keep em coming.
"I'm gonna see if the Trang set is any good."
Proceeds to equip the Death's Web, a top 10 rarest unique in the game.
Next time - only the set - no additional piece of gear
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for that u can get an tal rasha sorc with a wand and lower res charges and you obliterate everything 100% faster and easier
This set has always been good, people who play the game have always been full of shit, gg NuclearRabbit
Gg
Maybe i am stupid and you already did it, but man you got to do a Amazon Passive only run :0
Nope haven't done that one yet. It's been requested before but I have literal 100's of requested runs at this point so it'll get done "someday, eventually"
I'm quite sure that slow innate cast rate is a compensation for fast walk as vampire cannot run but walks with a speed of running, rather than a straight debuff.
Oh that could be. But I think it's just a missed thing in design. Cause they straight up copy+pasted the vampire enemies.
@@thenuclearrabbit copypaste happened 20 years ago. Since then it would've been changed if needed... i suppose.
I would like to see you try a normal->hell run with 0 grinding or farming. I think it would be interesting. Just play normally, through each difficulty. Kill every enemy and explore evey nook and cranny and every optional dungeon and make do with whatever drops but never save and exit and reload to grind. Dont even have to do it all in one can still save and exit in between acts, just dont go back to previous acts.
Yeah I'm gonna do this sometime cause people ask for it a lot :)
Have u seen MrLlamasc Druid run with 45% mob density were he find a helmet that shoots poison nova from every hit plus frost nova? He just ran through everything and poison nova kept spamming so Llama didnt have to do anything just running through everything.
Yeah I saw that. That was pretty funny
Is there a problem between Insight and Poison Nova? I remember, the poison damage from Insight makes problems with poison from insight/Merc
I'm sorry I don't know about that. Maybe they influence each others duration?
Sander's folly. I'm not a native English speaker, but I think this set helds his particularity in his name. Folly as madness, foolishness, stupidity, and well, the colour scheme (!) and bonuses do make sense: physical attributes and a caster type weapon. That's the Taboo the glove name is related to. Superstition and Paragon are inside the same theme I suppose, while the boot's are just a kind of joke Blizzard was incline to at that time, playing with the noun of a person -Sander, which for sure has some reference with the Blizzard North employee- to the tool -sander-, and the riprap (used for protection from water).
And what character can use it? Well, a barb as a secondary weapon, but it's really bad with that, and the full set bonuses don't justify that really bad weapon. I would say Dragon Tail assassin: cold damage on the weapon is not that bad if coupled with 3 fpa which DT is capable of, and you could do well in late in late normal difficult and decently in nightmare. Also a blade fury assassin could beneficially use that set. Oh, yes, other combinations are for sure better in the same situation, but that applies to all other low level set too.
Oh man you went deep haha. DT sin could be fun to do with sanders yeah. I dno if the damage is good on the boots though, but that is for me to figure out and for people to enjoy watching me do.
Yeah I'm not trying to be optimal I'm just trying to have fun/interesting setups
You can build stronger poison necro, without whole TO set, but it is strong enough to do anything. And nicest thing it has build in cheat death. If damage should kill you, you are instead transformed back to human form with 1hp and after few seconds you transforms back to activate new cheat death. Not sure if still works in D2R, but I used that a lot in D2LOD.
Oh good call. I didn't even know it works the same as with the Druid wereforms.
i thought i had left FTL open when i was lookin at this video
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Just wanted to mention something about bladesin, since you seem to like them and i learned you had auto-aim on another of your videos. Bladesin really benefit you using a shortcut to stand where you are and use Blade Fury by aiming on the ground. This allow to hit several monsters in a row without having the windup animation. I don't know if it's even possible on console but if you have the game on pc it really strenghten the gameplay of the character.
If you happen to not be able to use this, maybe this comment will help someone else.
Yeah aiming for Bladesin is much nicer on pc. But auto-aim is so nice.
PNova necro in general is pretty good (unless you find poison immunes), but necro is a 1-trick pony with CE. Though the set gives good bonus to poison dmg, imo the Dweb and sunder charm make the build much more efficient and fun to play. I'd say Trang-Oul is a feast or famine set, but that's true with almost every single usable sets.
It's certainly not as garbage to play as like Berserker set barb or Cleglaw blade assassin, but is it really good? At best B tier.
I'd give it A tier in a heartbeat. I was doing players 8 pits at the same pace as my normal magicfinder and it had been a long time since I cleared the game that easily. I felt brutally overpowered all the way through, which happens rarely.
Full Trang-Oul set is not like BAD bad, it's just way worse than a proper poison necro gear (which include 3 trang pieces anyway). Death's Web (with a facet too!) is kind of hard to obtain and give huge DPS increase; Rotting Fissure grand charm makes monster's poison immunity broken and reduced it to 95% (and you can go even further with Lower Resists) that was not a thing back in a day, and i have a suspicion that all characters with some sort of elemental magic damage as a main source of damage with new Sunder charms kind of feels really powerful now. So Trang full set is not unplayable by any means, but still not that good in terms of minmaxing.
Usual fair of players calling trash everything that's not BiS.
Video is hard to follow and jumps back and forth a few times. Here be timestamps:
2:30 Teeth until Andy?
2:50 ring +10 FCR, Tarnhelm +1, yew wand (+1),
3:15 stealth
3:30 bone spear until trang.
4:01 Duriel
4:20 clvl 27 - Sander
6:38 Mephi
7:40 Dia
10:05 Baal
10:40 Twitchthroe
10:45 Nightmare
11:00 Andy (nm)
11:05 Durry (clvl 42 that's serious...)
11:20 Homunculus (rare "shield")
11:30 Mephi (nm)
11:54 Dia (with A2 merc Ahab)
12:20 Baal (nm)
12:45 clvl 55, respec from bone spear to poison nova plus synergies and lower resist
13:10 TZ until clvl 65 to equip the set
15:10 points into clay golem (maxing out) and golem mastery.
15:50 Death's Web
16:00 NM TZ - Harlequin Crest - Mara
18:00 didn't know b/c as a vampire you run without losing your defense.
19:00 Act 4 somehow we skipped a bunch of bosses.
19:40 enter Hell
20:40 Hell Act 2
21:00 Hell Act 5
23:00 recap of bosses - trang oul set proven to kick ass.
But OP used a bunch of sunder charms, not really fair since you need to beat the game... on HC.
Whats the shared stash thing he keeps referencing?
I use gear from mules. They share a stash :)
I mean... It's *fun*... But gets absolutely destroyed comparably with the power house builds. Auradin, Hammerdin, Javason, Trapass, Hydra, Orb, Blizz and a bunch more
i have only found one piece of this set.
i play offline exclusively, so i can only use what i find/craft.
This is all SSF as well. Good luck on your magicfinding!
Only good I found about trang is that you can be in walk(non run) mode and have max block. Meaning you can tank.
Necroes are not frail as they ether have summons or bone armor/wall/prission. Seeing you're casting is bad with trang set I would go with a summon/p nova hybrid on Hardcore.
Yeah I ended up going poison with a golem
People were saying the set is bad because it's not worth wasting a DWeb on, and back in the day there was no "Rotting Fissure" so that's quite a difference.
How can an item not be worth to use with something? Sorry I don't get that logic at all it's just an item. True no Sunder charm in ye olden days. But I'm sure I would have still very easily cleared the game without it
But still the firewall was a good backup-plan for immunes. It was never a bad set, just overlooked, because Enigma nearly ruled over all non-sorceress builds.
finally some necro!
I love the necro but there just isn't as much to do with him. He has three builds and then it's kinda done.
golemancer with a frenzy barb is gg
You mean like just a golem and a barb? Could be fun
wasnt Sander set in time when you must find mana potions, because nobody selled them, maybe thats why is half caster, half melee
Yeah could be, but it's still weak for both which is just kinda sad.
I'm curious why you're not using amp damage or any curses in any of the clips of normal play through lol
They don't really matter when you are oneshotting everything anyway. And I also just don't need them so I'm not going to bother with them
@@thenuclearrabbitamp damage is nice for Merc, dim vision is pretty nice for hardcore.. stops mobs from doing special attacks, iron maiden makes Andy kill herself in record time. Obviously you didn't need em because you're a gamer god, but they are nice to have 😆. Cool video though
i wonder if singer barb could have good use of the sanders set :P
Could be a good one for it
Beat the game using delerium- as a fetish lol
I have a barbarian with delirium i use wolfhowl to change out of the fetish lol
Based suggestion, I would love to see that.
@@ch-arts-us
You Can just TP back and change acts
Someone finally asked it. I've been dreading this request for a long time haha. Sure, on the requested runs pile it goes
@@thenuclearrabbit I love your videos! I’m positive you’ll beat it, and I’m positive I’ll enjoy every second of the suffering! Lol
Thanks for the consideration!
We need poison meleemancer.
I did a poison ssf run a few months ago. It wasn't purely melee but I did a big chunck of the run using daggers
What a chad.
Akara sells some good shiz, saw a 30% FCR wand with +skills but it was almost half a million gold >_>
Yeah Akara doesn't give a crap about price gouging laws
zo, steenkolen-engels gedetecteerd
Toch gek dat het alleen Nederlanders zijn die er een punt van maken. Ik hoor er verder niemand over
I will go ahead and like this video
I will go ahead and like this comment
good game & good music ^^
Thank you and gg
At least with Vampire Cosplay you can defeat the almighty door. :D
But plz dont do Sanders Run. Or Inferno Run. I feel the pain already.
I'm going to do them at some point. I want to do a run with every set atleast once.
If anyone from Blizzard s reading this.. Man you got to change some things.. Many skills are just not used at all... For example the Druids Firestorm looks so cool but it is not used.. and maybe with some buffs to the Mercenarys we would see others being used than the act 2 one..
Do you play mainly online? Cause from what I see from offline players all of those things are used a lot.
all tha way
upp !!
Ill be honest, after playing Diablo 3, seeing any loot , be it rune or gold words make my heart skip with joy. So seeing a shako drop kindles my childhood heart no matter what
:D
3:53 You uhh *what* fangskin? lol
Druid gear?
This is a necro video?
Eat shit Desciple set!
That proper cracked me up 🤣
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I think you'll find that Trang's by itself isn't THAAAAT good, Death's Web is. Negative 50% posin resist is completely insane for a single item.
Not true, I ran a HC poison necro with full Trang and +3 poison Nova white wand. It wrecked.
Trang has very high survivability, with high res and armor defence while running, great for HC.
It's not best in slot of course, but it is still VEEERY good.
I was doing players 8 nightmare terror zones to farm the levels to get dweb and mara's. Still felt completely fine to me
Yeah this sums it up nicely
there is one downside... no TELEPORT! This skill should have always been on a charm or amulet! Would have allowed for so much more variety
Oh I didn't even notice I never use teleport anyway. I don't even really like it on a sorc
@@thenuclearrabbit agreed, i think it mainly SC players that always want to teleport. HC players know that teleport has a high risk of killing yourself, especially when not fully leveled and decked out yet.
Oh my problem is just that it makes the game trivial. I teleport just as agressively on hardcore as I used to on softcore I don't give a fuck anymore about my characters dying
Its so bad on console. Im playing on PS5, and cannot focus teeth skill. On PC the farther you click with the mouse the Teeth skill or Multiple shot with amazon is getting more focused, dealing more damage to a single monster.
I feel like teeth would be a great skill if it shotgunned enemy's
Yeah it would be great if it did that
i'm always in for a pounding
A nice pounding is always a good time
Hot 🤣
Yo, are you aware of the band "Nuclear Rabbit?"
Yeah I've had people tell me about them cause of my username before
the weapon did the carrying here, try the set without it :v
I'm sure I would be able to easily clear the game without the DWeb
And +skills on other gear pieces, and skiller also add extra.
He would be just fine with spirit and garbo jewellery, but these is the reason why it skyrocket from "Yeah, decent" to "Omg, so good".
Just throwing out a casual "this is the best of my death webs" at causal D2 players.
I mean I have like 7 or 8 of the things. I thought about showing my runemule when I grabbed the stealth runes but I think people would get pissed haha
@@thenuclearrabbit run mule or actually hovering over 8 dwebs to find the best would have been pretty trollishly funny. Keep up the great content.
Oh crap I totally should have done that. Good call for next time lol
Debate between the weakest class sets is still Aldurs VS Natalyas?
I don't think it's much of a debate. Trangs/IK/Natalta all felt very similar in powerlevel. And I have low expectations for aldurs
@@thenuclearrabbit It's a while I tried to play Natalyas, before D2R actually. I just couldn't think of a build that fit. For a Kicksin the boots are too weak, for a Trapsin it doesn't have enough + skills, and for a Ninja the weapon is too weak.
I did a Bladesin with it. But that is a build that got buffed with d2r. If not that I would have done a trapsin with it
I don't understand why they haven't reworked soooo many of the horrible items in this game.. It would be so much better if they did just so said items would actually be used..
::EDIT:: Also get shit on Disciple set
I fully agree. But I am starting to see it more as a puzzle to find uses for all of it these days
Go summon druid next, pls
I've done a summon Druid already. I will revisit it at some point cause I feel like I did a bad job with it
Never played it bit played Barb IK and it can hold up in hell.
People have used IK to do ubers before and in my experience it's always been completely fine
#TrangOulsForLife
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