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  • Does the Left Condemn Hamas?
    Was the Palestine cause Secular?
    How many people did the British kill in India during Colonialism?
    Ammar Ali Jan comes back on The Pakistan Experience to discuss Decolonization, British Exploitation of India, Pakistan, Palestine, Colonialism, Hamas, Collective Punishment, and the difference between the Left and Liberals, for a must watch episode of the podcast.
    On this deep dive podcast we unpack Imperialism and violence, from testing Tear Gas on Indians to the Siege of Gaza, from Jalianwala Bagh to Israel bombing Palestine, we discuss systematic and structure violence and notions of Identity, Culture and Ressistance.
    Ammar Ali Jan is a Historian, Academic, Activist and President of the Haqooq-e-Khalq party holding a PhD from Cambridge University.
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    Chapters
    0:00 Introduction
    2:00 Far Right using the religious narrative for Palestine
    5:45 Imperialism and Colonization
    9:00 Palestine: Resistance and Decolonization from India to South America
    17:00 PLO, PLFP and History of the Palestine Struggle
    31:30 Ideas of Violence on the Left
    34:00 Colonial Exploitation of India
    50:00 Liberalism and Colonial Style of Governance
    57:00 Violence, Fascism and Imperialism
    1:07:00 Imperial Violence and Revolution
    1:17:00 Painting Resistance as Violence to Dehumanize people
    1:21:00 Creating the Colonial World Order
    1:33:00 Identity Crisis and the Colonial Inferiorirty Complex
    1:35:00 The Palestinian Identity and Culture
    1:40:00 What the Palestine cause means for the world
    1:47:30 Protesting in Pakistan
    1:52:30 Audience Questions
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  • @kumarashura6621
    @kumarashura6621 6 місяців тому +183

    Khilafat movement was anti colonial 😂😂
    These idiots 🤦🏻🤦🏻

    • @jeevabalegar4954
      @jeevabalegar4954 6 місяців тому

      kilafath is a radical Islam ideology 😂

    • @prashantp2029
      @prashantp2029 6 місяців тому +30

      Peak intellectual wali baate😂...pakistani intellect hai ye

    • @finickygods3896
      @finickygods3896 6 місяців тому

      Existence of Muslims in Indian subcontinent largely is colonial legacy...

    • @atokimruk937
      @atokimruk937 6 місяців тому

      For sure, no pakistani can compete with any person from any other country. Just look at the " intellect" level of these guts. Comical.

    • @flyingmachine797
      @flyingmachine797 6 місяців тому +21

      Hahaha .Pakistani......😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ashu8669
    @ashu8669 6 місяців тому +554

    Its so fascinating to watch "MUSLIM INTELLECTUALS" talk soft on China's treatment of Uyghurs 😂😂😂

    • @jmudikun
      @jmudikun 6 місяців тому +29

      Holy cow that's a brilliant comment😂

    • @henrykissinger6157
      @henrykissinger6157 6 місяців тому +3

      😂😂😂

    • @umayr2935
      @umayr2935 6 місяців тому +28

      'This was discussed thoroughly in his podcast with Dr Taimur and Dr Sharam, in which Shehzad and Sharam were very critical of China and Dr Taimur didn't accept that theres a significant problem with Uyghurs.'

    • @umayr2935
      @umayr2935 6 місяців тому

      'However, its also true that China has terrorist movements like the East Turkestan Movement and China has established the re-education centers for people who are lured into extremist organizations. And its also true that whenever the state takes any action, there are also chances of overdoing it and state officials might also use those autonomies for their personal grudges too. So yeah, there can be innocent people in there too just like in any other country'

    • @Rabindra_
      @Rabindra_ 6 місяців тому

      Islam itself is colonial religion. Islam is tormenting this subcontinent for 1400 years.... When will you de colonise and throw out Islam out of sub continent...

  • @iDeepakRana
    @iDeepakRana 6 місяців тому +288

    I once asked a Pakistani intellectual, "why do you not recognise Israel?"
    "How could we?" he said. "It is an artificially manufactured state, created on the basis of religion and mass immigration and through enforcement of its language and culture on indigenous people."
    "Hmmm. I see," I said, without sarcasm.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +33

      Benedict Anderson ka kaam parho

    • @sarvmeetsingh940
      @sarvmeetsingh940 6 місяців тому +87

      By the same logic Pakistan is also an artificially manufactured state, created on the basis of religion and mass migration and enforcement of Urdu language on local Muslims of Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan and KPK....Good point...

    • @IndusNative
      @IndusNative 6 місяців тому +15

      All states are artificially manufactured, Einstein.

    • @sarvmeetsingh940
      @sarvmeetsingh940 6 місяців тому +36

      @@IndusNative Not all...but there are many and Pakistan is one of them...

    • @atokimruk937
      @atokimruk937 6 місяців тому

      Inbreeding and imbibing an alien religion from the desert has resulted in low IQ and irrationality that makes a pakistani.

  • @yashsrivastava5486
    @yashsrivastava5486 6 місяців тому +57

    How can you say ,conflict is not religious .The only reason whole islamic world is interested in this conflict and emotional about it too just coz of Al aqsa mosque .And the Israelis know if they compromise with Palestinians ,they know their fate will be sealed like christians of lebanon one day . Just becoz handful of Palestinian christians support them , doesn't mean there is no significant religious connotation to it.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +4

      There is a religious connotation but the conflict is not about religion, it is about land.

    • @abhay0603
      @abhay0603 6 місяців тому +21

      ​@@ThePakistanExperience why Israel returned all the land after the six day war if this is all about land ?

    • @vinsin328
      @vinsin328 6 місяців тому +17

      @@ThePakistanExperience So it is a land Jihad, and how that is not religious.

    • @Cryptobagiya
      @Cryptobagiya 6 місяців тому

      @@ThePakistanExperiencebro get some more arguments and possibilities go n watch or podcast with harris sultan or pakistani mulhid

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +1

      @@abhay0603 they returned sinai in the 70s after Egypt attacked.

  • @subhasisghosh66
    @subhasisghosh66 6 місяців тому +94

    Fun fact : After the 1967 war, lakhs of Palestinians were given refuge by Jordan. Backed by Iraq and Syria, these Palestinian repaid the hospitality of the Jordanians by challenging King Hussein. Pakistan's Zia-Ul-Haq, then a Brigadier, helped Jordan massacre thousands these Palestinians.

    • @65hammad
      @65hammad 6 місяців тому +5

      Another fun fact: You are conflating PLO + Fateh with palestinians(either LAKHS of palestinians were PLO or they were civilians). This civil war was between King of jordan and PLO. So, be specific even if you want to propagate a specific narrative. For Zia-Ul-Haq, you are damn right. He was named butcher of Palestinians.

    • @kallumama648
      @kallumama648 6 місяців тому +7

      You think plo, fatha,Hamas are Japanese

    • @nacpatil
      @nacpatil 6 місяців тому

      ​@@65hammad K, then how many muslims came out on street to stop hamas or fatah making palestinians life difficult: answer zero! Because they are useful irritants for ummat! Keep ignoring snakes and their multiplication it will be all fine as it happened in afghanistan!

    • @65hammad
      @65hammad 6 місяців тому +2

      @@kallumama648 instead of saying a very tiny group of people (PLO/Fatah) repaid Jordan, he said Palestinians. I just corrected the over-conflation. By your logic, I can tell every US white citizen that he is an white supremacist by virtue of Ku Klux Klan. The issue was his phrasing for Palestinians (making civilians looks like part of that issue).

    • @abhaypatel4292
      @abhaypatel4292 6 місяців тому +5

      ​@@65hammadhey you can't say it's fault of Palestinians if few thousand of them pick up arms🤧🤧 against the state that gave them Refuge...dude what happens to such refugees they get kicked out...
      There isn't a sense of indebtedness or thankyou in these refugees who live in such countries rather entitlement..

  • @sitarampradhan8488
    @sitarampradhan8488 6 місяців тому +150

    Gandhi and Nehru were not our prophets. We deeply respect them as our leaders. They did some mistakes we will critical about it just like we praise their good deeds.

    • @anikeshmidya4882
      @anikeshmidya4882 6 місяців тому +2

      Pakistanis specially the left worship Nehru greater than any other God. They think Nehru is a God and all Indians worship him. Fact is he was a authoritarian who didn't accept dissent even within his own cabinet but hey Shezad himself is a authoritarian just like Pak army has categories for good terrorism and bad terrorism the left has special categories for good authoritarian and bad authoritarian

    • @audiblebooksvideo7340
      @audiblebooksvideo7340 6 місяців тому +2

      if you want to critised iseral you first critises hamas if you dont critises hamas and all balame to iseral then you are hypocrite . yes iseral killed more gazane then hamas kill iseralie but its common sens iseral is more powerfull also hamas also know if we attack on iseral gazane killed more becasue of iseral reaction . but this was there stretegy first celebrate attack on them and then play full victam card and then feel very bad for pakistani fake intelectul who want to cray for palastine but not cray for afgan refugee . 2 take ke intellectual .

    • @SkyMonkeyLing
      @SkyMonkeyLing 6 місяців тому +1

      😂😂 kitna Shareef Ban rahe hai Indians idhar comments meh.
      Asal meh kitna Gaali dete ho tumlog Nehru, Gandhi aur Left ko , hame sab dikhta hai😂.
      Aur Modi , Yogi ke khilaaf bolne waale ke religion, caste, parents, sister ko gaali dete hai !

    • @audiblebooksvideo7340
      @audiblebooksvideo7340 6 місяців тому +9

      @@SkyMonkeyLing india 1.4 billion ka desh hai.
      Or ha Muhammad ne 6 year ki bichari ayesha she shadi ki thi to ye gali nahi sachai hai par Muslim apne prophet ki bato ko gali samaj lete hai to wo fir mante hai prophet ne galat kia tha.

    • @sayantanguha9110
      @sayantanguha9110 3 місяці тому +1

      @@SkyMonkeyLing pakistani se koi certificate nehi chaiye... Hamara desh hamari marji se chalega

  • @srikudoris91
    @srikudoris91 6 місяців тому +26

    Pakistanis made the name of the stadium, Gaddafi. 😂😂

  • @ajeebloghai
    @ajeebloghai 6 місяців тому +65

    He is the best example who hate America but wants to live in America 😅

  • @AjitJoshi686
    @AjitJoshi686 6 місяців тому +58

    1:02:50 He is talking about Dr Ambedkar. He should read books about Pakistan by Dr Ambedkar

    • @righteousrebellious2330
      @righteousrebellious2330 6 місяців тому +2

      “If Hindu Raj does become a fact, it will, no doubt, be the greatest calamity for this country.… Hindu Ra Hinduism is a menace to liberty, equality and fraternity. On that account it is incompatible with democracy. Hindu Raj must be prevented at any cost.j must be prevented at any cost,” wrote B.R. Ambedkar in Pakistan or the Partition of India (1946, pages 354-355)

    • @okman9684
      @okman9684 6 місяців тому +11

      ​@@righteousrebellious2330yeah so what, nobody supports hindu raj. We support akhand bharat. Ruled by law of subcontinent and not the imported sharia from middle east

    • @righteousrebellious2330
      @righteousrebellious2330 6 місяців тому +3

      @@okman9684 i also support akhand bharat but based on indian constitution not on manusmriti/any hindu text or sharia law

    • @thesaviour6325
      @thesaviour6325 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@righteousrebellious2330calm down Bheem ke dewane no one's wants hindurashtra.
      It is not practically possible and feasible to sustain.

    • @agnimitram340
      @agnimitram340 6 місяців тому +9

      ​@@righteousrebellious2330lol you guys talk about manusmriti so much I bet 90% of Indians have not even heard about it.

  • @farahniazi9752
    @farahniazi9752 6 місяців тому +74

    When you have no education no technology no science, how can you fight with borrowing everything from others😂. Only words😅

    • @audiblebooksvideo7340
      @audiblebooksvideo7340 6 місяців тому +1

      if you want to critised iseral you first critises hamas if you dont critises hamas and all balame to iseral then you are hypocrite . yes iseral killed more gazane then hamas kill iseralie but its common sens iseral is more powerfull also hamas also know if we attack on iseral gazane killed more becasue of iseral reaction . but this was there stretegy first celebrate attack on them and then play full victam card and then feel very bad for pakistani fake intelectul who want to cray for palastine but not cray for afgan refugee . 2 take ke intellectual .

  • @puransingh1083
    @puransingh1083 6 місяців тому +68

    jitne bhi attrocities hue sab British time pe hue. Mughals ke time pe toh sab kuch hunky dory tha.

    • @Takecare55
      @Takecare55 6 місяців тому +1

      Ha bhai tumhe Shak hai? kuch din aur ruko 4 saahibzaadon ki shahadat bhi ye hinduo ke upar daalenge.

    • @SSS-dr8hl
      @SSS-dr8hl 6 місяців тому

      G G bilkul. Aap tou Occupied Kashmir mai phool bekhair rahay ho; aap tou indian muslims ko CAA2019 jaisay tohfay dey rahay ho. Besharam, jaanwar, laaanat tumhaari soch pe!

    • @ramraghuwanshi2562
      @ramraghuwanshi2562 6 місяців тому

      ​@@my-pointofviewislamic principal of jiziya, pedophilia

    • @RealRandomVideos
      @RealRandomVideos 5 місяців тому

      @@my-pointofviewwho in 2023 are exactly following islamic principles? Can you show that country..

    • @RealRandomVideos
      @RealRandomVideos 5 місяців тому

      @@my-pointofview I don’t see protests from you all like how you came out on streets when danish cartoons were published and saying in one voice that these terroreest organisations are NOT islamic.. when are you all going to g to protest against those 92% terroreest org’s?

  • @indian9428
    @indian9428 6 місяців тому +83

    35:08 it was not "khilafat movement" it was "caliphate movement" ... Historians like Romila thappar and irfan habib try to write history according to their masters , thanx god their was people like R.C Majumdar and great minds like Baba Sahebh Ambedkar who have written books , 43:01 he he he learning history from a colonizer prospective , he mentioned Baba Sahebh Ambedkar then he should read his book "pakistan or partition of India"

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +15

      Caliphate in urdu is Khilafaat

    • @Indian_christan_jesus_is_king
      @Indian_christan_jesus_is_king 6 місяців тому +30

      ​@@ThePakistanExperienceAbbe wo sab chhor allah ke liye mere desh pe raham kar mere mulk ka naam le kar views mat le

    • @thewhitetiger8915
      @thewhitetiger8915 6 місяців тому +24

      ​@@ThePakistanExperienceCaliphate Urdu word is khalifat
      Not khilafat. Khilafat literal meaning is rebolt.
      Gandiji supported khalifat(califphate) but changed it to khilafat to gain hindus support.

    • @thewhitetiger8915
      @thewhitetiger8915 6 місяців тому +13

      ​@@ThePakistanExperiencekhilafat and khalifat is big debate in india and biggest dent on Mr Gandhi's image.
      Maybe you dnt know about it.

    • @righteousrebellious2330
      @righteousrebellious2330 6 місяців тому

      in that book Ambedkar also said “If Hindu Raj does become a fact, it will, no doubt, be the greatest calamity for this country. Hinduism is a menace to liberty, equality and fraternity. On that account it is incompatible with democracy. Hindu Raj must be prevented at any cost.” “You must not only discard the Shastras, you must deny their authority, as did Buddha and Nanak. You must have courage to tell the Hindus that what is wrong with them is their religion-the which has produced in them this notion of the sacredness of Caste.

  • @JeetuKumarYadav-ow8jq
    @JeetuKumarYadav-ow8jq 6 місяців тому +146

    If anyone of my friends really thinks that Muslims are crying for Palestine because of compassion then you are completely wrong.
    Muslims never cries for Yaman ,Sudan ,Syria , Afghanistan despite killings of much more number of innocent people in above countries . Because in above countries Killer is itself Muslim so they don't care but In case of Israel their hatred against Jews is unstoppable.
    Recently Pakistan has kicked out 17 lakh Afghans . They are Muslims or not ??

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +21

      podcast na dekho, ek hee copy paste comment har jaga kartay jao kartay jao

    • @holyindian
      @holyindian 6 місяців тому +63

      @@ThePakistanExperience He has a valid point, a point most muslim wont ever answer.

    • @Outofthisworld794
      @Outofthisworld794 6 місяців тому +39

      1. Palestine issue is not about religion, it never was
      2. Yemen and Uyghur genocide is religion based hatred.
      3. Pakistanis(majority) don't support Palestinians out of "muslim love" but out of hatred for Israel, the same rule applies to the kashmir issue
      Saying this as a Pakistani muslim

    • @JeetuKumarYadav-ow8jq
      @JeetuKumarYadav-ow8jq 6 місяців тому +17

      ​@@ThePakistanExperienceAapki hr dusri podcast dekhta hun. Ye bhi dekhunga. Lekin mujhe malum hai ki is video me bhi wahi bat hogi . I like you lekin but don't agree with you on this issue .

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +3

      no he doesnt because he has crafted a reality based on his assumptions and he is forcing conclusions based on those, it is those assumptions that need to be questioned rather worrying about his questions.@@holyindian

  • @fanthony
    @fanthony 6 місяців тому +65

    For all the talk of how Israel didn’t exist before 1948 and the rolling out of convenient maps that highlight that POV, I’m yet to hear one Muslim talk about the Quran’s repeated references to Israel and the children of Israel. This was 600 years after the Romans destroyed the Jewish temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD, scattered the Jews across the world, and triggered the first major Jewish diaspora.
    Yet, 600 years later, when the Quran was written, the state of Israel and the idea of Jewish people as children of Israel was repeatedly recognized in formal Islamic documentation, even in their holiest scriptures.
    Funnily enough, Palestine is mentioned exactly 0 times in the Quran. The Holy Land, as the Jewish homeland was referred to in the Quran, had 0 Muslim presence during the life of Muhammad. The local indigenous people there were either Jewish or Christian. The Jewish homeland was important and holy enough for early Muslims to focus their direction of prayer to Jerusalem.
    The hypocrisy is astounding.

    • @asharded
      @asharded 6 місяців тому +5

      Israel in the Quran was a tribe not a state

    • @lanoklom9697
      @lanoklom9697 6 місяців тому +3

      Yes and then the Quran, the Old Testament and the New Testament state that the Jews lost their land due to their disobedience with God. Also in the Tanakh and the Torah (Jewish Holy books) the Jews are in a covenant with God to NOT have their own state until their messiah returns. How conveniently you fail to mention this point or perhaps are unaware of it. Hence if you are going to quote religious scriptures to justify your point, perhaps do your research first.

    • @alikazmi1422
      @alikazmi1422 6 місяців тому +1

      lmao your confirmation bias is showing your ignorance. Israel is another name of Prophet Jacob/Yaqoob. And bani Israel in quran refers to the children of Jacob. 🤣🤣

    • @asharded
      @asharded 6 місяців тому +4

      @@lanoklom9697 So something that happened hundreds of years ago justifies displacing Palestinians in the 21st century?

    • @fanthony
      @fanthony 6 місяців тому +2

      @@lanoklom9697 I see that you have resolutely ignored my point that there are exactly 0 mentions of Palestine in the Quran. All these social media and March protesters making disingenous claims that Israel never existed before 1948 never once found a reason to discuss that Palestine never existed exist in the Quranic imagination.
      Whether the Quranic or other Abrahamic mythologies claimed to dispossess the Jews as retribution for disobedience is not of interest to the modern, scientific mind. The question of interest is whether the state of Israel existed, and did the Quran recognize its existence. The answer is a resounding yes. The same cannot be said for Palestine.

  • @parjanyashukla176
    @parjanyashukla176 6 місяців тому +67

    In Chennai there is a road where British and French fought each other over who's going to play the role of the leading looter/savage in India.
    If two goondas are fighting, it doesn't mean that one is the "good guy" and the other is the "bad guy". It's actually more likely that the two gangsters are both fighting each other for world dominance.
    During the Islamic-era, Turks, Iranians, Uzbeks, Afghans, etc. were exactly the same kind of barbarians as the Europeans became later, and had almost exactly the same kinds of punishments as well.
    So for Hindus, there's hardly any difference between the two Abrahamic cults.

    • @ashokbobade9257
      @ashokbobade9257 6 місяців тому +3

      What about caste discrimination against dalits

    • @KejriwalBhakt
      @KejriwalBhakt 6 місяців тому +21

      ​@@ashokbobade9257That's wrong and we as Hindus are working on it. At least we admit the shortcomings in our faith unlike yours which discriminate between muslim and non muslim as kafirs.

    • @kh-fk3ko
      @kh-fk3ko 6 місяців тому

      So basically they were all barbarians except for hindus? The reason the named were able to conquer india is because they were smarter, and more tactful than their enemies.

    • @kh-fk3ko
      @kh-fk3ko 6 місяців тому

      @@KejriwalBhakt what? Most hindus are very sucessful in muslim countries, so youre wrong. Now you cant use two outlier countries due to war.

    • @KejriwalBhakt
      @KejriwalBhakt 6 місяців тому +12

      @@kh-fk3ko So how is it relevant to the idea that they were barbarians? Should I use same logic in Palestine and Israel case? Truth is Israel is smart and more tactful then their "enemies".
      How many ways you wanna defend the barbarians?

  • @apoorvaasthana5771
    @apoorvaasthana5771 6 місяців тому +20

    He sounds more jihadi than lal topi😂

    • @debanjanbiswas6930
      @debanjanbiswas6930 6 місяців тому +2

      Lol...His name also came in my head...Shehzad is a soft 'lal topi'...

  • @AbhayPeshin
    @AbhayPeshin 6 місяців тому +17

    When talking about colonization, i often wonder why muslim intellectuals forget that theeir anscestors were also colonizers

  • @allahdinosamo7654
    @allahdinosamo7654 6 місяців тому +19

    I am a retired teacher . In 1991 I was kidnapped along with my second brother and the eldest was martyred in the incident .After our release went to meet a military major situated in our district because after lodging an FIR the kidnappers were again threatening us . Not only military officer could not favour us for a meeting but the soldier on the gate rudely asked us ' aap ko kalma parhna aata he ! 'That's colonialism ! You can not find 'Rangers chowki' on high ways in Punjab but in Sindh you have to be dehumanized for half an hour , that's colonialism .

  • @amansingh0674
    @amansingh0674 6 місяців тому +115

    Truth is we as indians don't care about Palestine people. We care about whats good for india geopolitically. There are numerous atrocities happening around the world. Just because you are Muslim and you have soft corners for muslim countries you are just doing these protests.
    Indian people should be concerned more about what geopolitically will be good for us rather than supporting Palestine just for sake of humanity. Be practical think about our country india and indians
    Who care about whom nehru and gandhi support. Things were different back then. We all know why gandhis keep supporting palestine to gather muslim votes.

    • @righteousrebellious2330
      @righteousrebellious2330 6 місяців тому +10

      agreed

    • @scientia.veritas
      @scientia.veritas 6 місяців тому

      "Truth is we as indians don't care about Palestine people" Correction: Right-wing hindus don't care about Palestine people because they are fundamentally spineless people who will lick whatever boots they can (in this case, Israel). Fundamentally, not all Indians are as spineless as bhakts.
      Fun fact: Bhakts care more about Pakistani/bangaldeshi hindus than Muslims in their own countries. Ain't that depressing.

    • @darkknight2414
      @darkknight2414 6 місяців тому +3

      Exactly 🤟

    • @usama.nasar18
      @usama.nasar18 6 місяців тому +5

      We should support humanity and justice no matter what.
      One day same thing will happen with you and there will be no one to raise voice for you.

    • @righteousrebellious2330
      @righteousrebellious2330 6 місяців тому +29

      @@usama.nasar18 I am sure muslim countries will never ever raise their voice for india. If india gets into trouble, rather they will enjoy it.

  • @rishavshukla28
    @rishavshukla28 6 місяців тому +54

    I listen to the podcast avidly, but I'm here to counter few points. My point of reference will be real world practicality and not some arbitrary morals & idealism
    1. Reagrding Cawnpore Massacre - That happened almost 200 years ago so people have built distance from it, hell most even don't know about it. But if I go ask people about their reaction to it, they would certainly feel remorseful about the incident not call it some victory for social justice. Moreover if that happened today on live TV people would have reacted the same way they did to Hamas brutality.
    2. The Hindus or non muslims dont support the Palestinian cause so fanatically becasue "kya Arab ke log insaan nai hai' - Nai bhai non muslims will naturally not feel as strongly for a war going on thousands of kilomteres away from their borders becuase they have their own life to live. This perfection of soul that youseek from supporting the right side just doesn't resonate with non muslim masses. An average non muslim of the subcontinent doesnt care much about what's going on far away because it doesn't visibly affect their lives. This is like sayiing that all muslims of subcontinent support Palestine out of goodness of their hearts and not the love for Ummah. I would like them to show the same passion in Ukraine war or even climate crisis. The muslim identity crisis will continue as long as it will see itself the colonised population of the Arabs and make their cause as theirs.
    3. Regarding Nehru, Gandhi and others missionary zeal for Palestine and opposition for Israel - Unki apni majbooriyan thi... You know there were multiple reasons to support Palestine in mid 20th century...they were product of their times...there is no justifiable reason to remain a slave to the Nehruvian consensus.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +8

      2. Not true. Look at the marches around the world from thousands of Jewish people in America to Dublin to London to Africa, humanity matters to people.

    • @vinsin328
      @vinsin328 6 місяців тому

      @@ThePakistanExperience Jewish people in America to Dublin to London to Africa -> not part of the subcontinent and they are not fanatics. You argue that Kafirs should believe in Human rights but Muslims should and you want to bring Gandhi, who wanted Muslims to have the right to kill and rape Hindus and Sikhs as that was the demand of Muslims of the Subcontinent.
      Jewish people themselves do not support human rights in general baring women's rights and religious building and clothing laws.

    • @nishu413
      @nishu413 6 місяців тому

      ​@@ThePakistanExperiencedespite all that protest , western govt will not support Palestine.
      Reasons : Palestine will not become election issue in these countries.
      Mass Protest in these cities are more due to fact that these countries has inflation and unemployment so much that protester has time for Palestinians.
      Once these countries solve local problems these protesters will be no where to be found.

    • @abhimanyukumar2587
      @abhimanyukumar2587 6 місяців тому +16

      Pakistan talks about human rights 😂😂😂

    • @vishvajitkumar9497
      @vishvajitkumar9497 6 місяців тому +8

      @@ThePakistanExperienceI Fully Support Israel.

  • @takuya.yagami.
    @takuya.yagami. 6 місяців тому +28

    I wish , someone would have talked about the force conversion and Persecution of Hindus and other religious minority in Pakistan.
    Now even a single muslim from pakistan and even from India , commented on this. (exceptions are there).
    Hypocrisy at its best.

    • @Shubham0514
      @Shubham0514 6 місяців тому +1

      Nahi bhai aise kese, Podcast to Hindus ko gali de kar khud ka ego satisfy karne ke liye banaya he

    • @takuya.yagami.
      @takuya.yagami. 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Shubham0514 Yeah , the problem is , even Indian muslims don't care about other minorities and other thing is 18-20 % is not minority but still getting the special privilege and they are not even thankful for that. They think it is their right. I mean , they are getting this on expense of the majority (Hindus).

    • @harrypotter7854
      @harrypotter7854 6 місяців тому

      I wish you guys also discuss about the minorities in your own country ….but guess what you will be called a deshdrohi😢(AS IF)

    • @AYUSHKUMAR-yw7hj
      @AYUSHKUMAR-yw7hj 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@harrypotter7854minority that created a separate country for themselves??
      Right right.

    • @4yesha.04
      @4yesha.04 5 днів тому +1

      He does talk about it, i dont remember in which vid he specifically talked abt hindu but here and there he talks abt the voilence which happened during partition and how karachi had a great population of hidus and sikh which migrated, he talks abt how we have disowned names and personalities bcz they were hindus and destroyed mandirs which were historical sites. And he has a whole podcast with pastor ghazala on the oppression of christians in pak, you should watch that

  • @saurabh75prakash
    @saurabh75prakash 6 місяців тому +64

    It is fascinating that this channel talks about Palestine issue but shy away from discussing Afghans deportation in their own country.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +27

      It is fascinating that you didn't watch our last podcast where we discussed it. It was mentioned in this one too.

    • @saurabh75prakash
      @saurabh75prakash 6 місяців тому +13

      I surely haven't watched the video. But I was expecting a podcast with a title reflecting the hypocrisy of Pakistani leadership and think tank on Afghan issue and state of Muslims in China.
      I certainly believe that people like you are helping change the narrative in Pakistan to focus on themselves rather than global issues.
      It gives me no high ground or pleasure to point out that Pakistan is a global problem.

    • @ambrishyadav2163
      @ambrishyadav2163 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@@ThePakistanExperience
      Make proper video with a proper guest and expose Pakistan
      It's a very big issue, atleast give 30 min to it. Aise ek lambi video k beech mn 10 min bolne se topic ki intensity kam ho jati

    • @thousandwaala8935
      @thousandwaala8935 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@ambrishyadav2163exactly correct.

    • @sanahasnain
      @sanahasnain 6 місяців тому +6

      But did you guys not watch his last video? The recent one with Muzammil Shah? … I guess you want him to start every podcast with an apology on behalf of all Pakistanis of how horrible we are and take breaks throughout the session and reiterate how sorry we are of our existence 😂

  • @thestoryofindia9357
    @thestoryofindia9357 6 місяців тому +22

    What does Pakistan has to do with Palestine? Muslim brotherhood? Didn't one of your muslim general ( Zia-ul-Haq ) killed thousands of Palestinians (Jordanian conflict). Begani shadi mai abdullah dewana.
    Like your podcast, love how less you guys know about India and the Indian philosophy and religion while Pakistan struggle to create its own identity....?

    • @subhasisghosh66
      @subhasisghosh66 6 місяців тому

      Absolutely spot on. Others, please Google Black September.

  • @vikas__patel24
    @vikas__patel24 6 місяців тому +50

    Why i am feeling Pakistani youtubers dont talk about arab slavery but only talk about Atlantic slave trade?
    Due to religion?

    • @Takecare55
      @Takecare55 6 місяців тому +11

      What else do you think is the reason? One reason being they themselves had the wrath of islamic invasions and slave trade but alas they consider bin Qasim as their hero.

    • @AKumar-co7oe
      @AKumar-co7oe 6 місяців тому +11

      imagine if they start talking about how slavery was abolished under ashoka and brought back during Muslim era mind blown ho jayega

    • @vikas__patel24
      @vikas__patel24 6 місяців тому +2

      @@AKumar-co7oe
      This guy whenever get opportunity says Mughals are not colonisers.. I mean how on earth these people can support palastine and at the same time support mughal invasion.

    • @vikas__patel24
      @vikas__patel24 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Takecare55
      This guy believe mohd qasim is not his hero but also says they were not colonisers...

  • @Ranjith_37
    @Ranjith_37 6 місяців тому +24

    Partition has happened bcz Congress supported Khilafat movement to appease Muslims same thing happened after 1947.. To appease Indian Muslims once again to get their votes congress is playing this game... we Indians particularly Indian Muslims don't have nothing to do with Palestine..

    • @Shva927
      @Shva927 6 місяців тому +6

      Dude thanks the creators of pakistan otherwise imagine what would have been the condition of India, but unfortunately they didn't take everyone.

    • @Ranjith_37
      @Ranjith_37 6 місяців тому +5

      @@Shva927 To some extent I do agree with you bro.. Gandhi supported Khilafat movement just to appease Muslims he is the first person who brings religion into politics in Modern India why did he done bcz by appeasing Muslims he thought that they will help in freedom struggle that did not happened.. again after Independence Nehru supported Palestine cause bcz he afraid so much that if he doesn't support the cause what Muslims will do ? I really don't understand why for Muslim religion Comes first?

    • @balajjamal2671
      @balajjamal2671 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Ranjith_37look at the condescending tone you people use against Muslims, bhalay apnay mulk k hon ya Pakistan k, and then you wonder why partition happened. You people just create your own happiness.

  • @rishavshukla28
    @rishavshukla28 6 місяців тому +60

    Bro really said, "koi threat to Israel ko hai ni, Hamas ne takeover to nai karna, to phuljadiya wo phenkte hai, nuksaan bhi horha hai nai hora hai". To quote Gandhi "Hindus should not harbour anger in their hearts against Muslims even if the latter wanted to destroy them. Even if the Muslims want to kill us all we should face death bravely. If they established their rule after killing Hindus we would be ushering in a new world by sacrificing our lives."
    Again it's a sad state of affairs, but I'm curious what a proportionate & credible Israeli deterrence should be like according to them.

    • @AKumar-co7oe
      @AKumar-co7oe 6 місяців тому

      convert to Islam

    • @RysaM-ir6tk
      @RysaM-ir6tk 6 місяців тому +9

      7th of October ko ye sare liberals so rahe the..ab jab Israel defend kar Raha ye sab activate ho Gaye he with their propoganda 😂

    • @kshitijanant6819
      @kshitijanant6819 6 місяців тому

      bro cooked nothing

    • @audiblebooksvideo7340
      @audiblebooksvideo7340 6 місяців тому +1

      if you want to critised iseral you first critises hamas if you dont critises hamas and all balame to iseral then you are hypocrite . yes iseral killed more gazane then hamas kill iseralie but its common sens iseral is more powerfull also hamas also know if we attack on iseral gazane killed more becasue of iseral reaction . but this was there stretegy first celebrate attack on them and then play full victim card and then feel very bad for pakistani fake intellectual who want to cray for palastine but not cray for afgan refugee . 2 take ke intellectual .

    • @AKumar-co7oe
      @AKumar-co7oe 6 місяців тому +3

      @@audiblebooksvideo7340 pakistani intellectuals in a nutshell

  • @mayankumar1312
    @mayankumar1312 6 місяців тому +49

    My only question ? Does Pakistan really have a LEFT ?

  • @IndusNative
    @IndusNative 6 місяців тому +42

    India formally recognised Israel on September 17, 1950. Soon thereafter, the Jewish Agency established an immigration office in Bombay. This was later converted into a Trade Office and subsequently into a Consulate. Embassies were opened in 1992 when full diplomatic relations were established.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +10

      Thanks for that

    • @subhasisghosh66
      @subhasisghosh66 6 місяців тому +1

      And in 1992, it was a Congress government in power, not BJP

    • @saurabhiyer2542
      @saurabhiyer2542 6 місяців тому +5

      ​@@subhasisghosh66well it was PVN, so it was a BJP PM as per Aiyar

    • @KejriwalBhakt
      @KejriwalBhakt 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@@saurabhiyer2542who gives a f about Aiyar. The dude went to Pak to seek support against Modi. 😂

    • @audiblebooksvideo7340
      @audiblebooksvideo7340 6 місяців тому +2

      if you want to critised iseral you first critises hamas if you dont critises hamas and all balame to iseral then you are hypocrite . yes iseral killed more gazane then hamas kill iseralie but its common sens iseral is more powerfull also hamas also know if we attack on iseral gazane killed more becasue of iseral reaction . but this was there stretegy first celebrate attack on them and then play full victam card and then feel very bad for pakistani fake intelectul who want to cray for palastine but not cray for afgan refugee . 2 take ke intellectual .

  • @KejriwalBhakt
    @KejriwalBhakt 6 місяців тому +10

    Problem with even the most progressive Pakistani is : BC inlogo ki sentence bina India, Modi, Hindutva etc ke puri hoti hi nahi...
    Inse baat karo Palestine ki... baat karte hai hindutva ki😂

  • @radhikanarayanan6064
    @radhikanarayanan6064 6 місяців тому +6

    I'm still waiting for more than 1 muslim to change this ratio-
    Time spent condemning the Horror of Hamas : Time spent Supporting the Palestinian Struggle
    1:1,500,000,000
    Here is how the world views all muslims when you open your mouth on such issues:
    * Half a million dead in Syria = zero action + some Thoughts and Prayers
    * 1 million dead in Iran-Iraq conflict = zero action + some Thoughts and Prayers
    * 300K dead in Yemen = zero action + not a lot of Thoughts and Prayers
    * 3 wars in Sudan leading to half a million dead = zero action + some Thoughts and Prayers
    * Palestinians revolting against Jordan = Zero action + Zero thoughts and prayers
    * Palestinians changing the demographics of Lebanon and reducing it to a worn torn country = Zero action + Zero thoughts and prayers
    * 1.7 million refugees kicked out of Pakistan = Zero action + Zero thoughts and Prayers + So many excuses
    * Minorities in muslim countries not having the same status as muslims = Some action + Some thoughts and prayers + Loads of cheer and happiness
    * Palestinian cause = Take to the streets + Take down posters of hostages + Seething anger + History lessons that begin in 1948 + virtually Zero acknowledgment of Islamic terrorists wanting to wipe out a whole race + Create a major nuisance for citizens in countries where you have immigrated to.
    Palestinians deserve all our sympathy. We need to stop the carnage. But if the Islamic world is silent on muslim on muslim atrocities that occur at a much much larger scale, but go full-tilt on any non-muslim on muslim atrocities, then I think you need to get yourself checked. Let the rest of us who understand what true humanity is handle this. Even if you don't say it out loud most of you think "from the river to the sea". If you want to be taken seriously, it's best you start working on yourselves. I promise you the rest of the world will take you seriously then.
    I may hate the frequency of protests in India. I may feel it slows down progress or change. I may not agree with some. But I'm happy that all issues in India have an audible voice. I'm happy that there are enough people not from the protesting community that stand with them. I'm happy that the will of the people is on display no matter the issue. Where is your will at? I'm not saying it has to be a majority display , but it has to be material. Where is the will of the people when the army controls you? where is your will when you have been lied to in your history books? where is your will when 50% of your population (women) are treated poorly? where is the display of the will of the people when you persecute minorities? Who or what is your equivalent of millions of people like me who troll both Islamists and Far-right Sanjay Dixit type tunnis, who put development, progress, and coexistence above all? Where is your jazba? Why is Syed Muzammil Shah the only one?

    • @sakootdacca6706
      @sakootdacca6706 3 місяці тому +1

      No back bone or honesty in the cult to own their barbaric actions . They never can see the huge problem with the selves,

  • @rushikesh13
    @rushikesh13 6 місяців тому +13

    Pura Episode Acha Tha Lekin End Ate Ate LeftWale Bhai Ne Uyghur Muslim Ke Mudde Pe Communist China ko Clean Chit De Diya 😅😅😅

    • @Rabindra_
      @Rabindra_ 6 місяців тому +2

      How surprising...

    • @wrognop4941
      @wrognop4941 5 місяців тому +2

      Abbu ke khilaf bolenge to khayenge kya? 😂

  • @amaratvak6998
    @amaratvak6998 6 місяців тому +31

    Which votary or leader of "hindutva" brigade did you find religiously bigoted, fanatic and condescending upon "other" (non hindu) faiths? Also explain how did you reach to that conclusion and what are the reasons for your such views? Give reference please. Thanks 🙏🏽

    • @randmht9976
      @randmht9976 6 місяців тому +7

      Noone to name.
      It's a strawman.

    • @saurabh75prakash
      @saurabh75prakash 6 місяців тому +10

      He will never reply to this.

    • @MrIndushek
      @MrIndushek 6 місяців тому +10

      What do you expect from people who generalize 80 percentage of India? Note that this person is using colonial tactics of painting some one he has no idea about with his own brush

    • @holyindian
      @holyindian 6 місяців тому

      Good point

    • @sarcasticallyyours312
      @sarcasticallyyours312 6 місяців тому +1

      Bhai bhot recent toh Dhayami hi h…jo apologise bhi ye keh k kr rha h ki m toh Muslims and Madraso k liye keh rha tha..UP CM k samne…..Bhai agr hindutva ko criticise kiya jata h toh iska mtlb Hindus and India ko criticise ni kiya jaa rha…isliye we shouldn’t defend hatred in name of religion in our country. There is religious extremism in our country today, no matter how much we ignore but we deep down we all know what’s going on in India

  • @worldgeography2229
    @worldgeography2229 6 місяців тому +9

    ISPR coverts .

  • @BirenderSinghJalal
    @BirenderSinghJalal 6 місяців тому +21

    Lol...if these are the intellectuals of Pakistan 😂 no wonder the country is doomed

    • @rabaildurrani
      @rabaildurrani 6 місяців тому

      What can we do Cambridge doesn’t teach Indian curriculum. So these guys can’t reach your level of intellect. Please save your intellect for trolling and don’t ever show it to Pakistanis we will jinx it.

    • @ZS0719
      @ZS0719 6 місяців тому +2

      Yes!! real intellectuals are in Bollywood studios!😂😂😂😂😂unbelievable

    • @AYUSHKUMAR-yw7hj
      @AYUSHKUMAR-yw7hj 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ZS0719🥱 bhaii tu Jo bol rha h vo tujhe khud samajh aaya ??
      Bollywood or podcast ka difference pata h.
      Btw still Bollywood stars are more educated than an average Pakistani.

  • @maheshbhandari4287
    @maheshbhandari4287 6 місяців тому +8

    1.2% Hindu left in pakistan ...where they live from atleast 5 year ....where every year 1000 of hindu girls ( age 12 to 14 year ) ...wooooo

  • @okman9684
    @okman9684 6 місяців тому +10

    Israel is same as Pakistan. Both are forcefully existing on someone's native land and we are ok with it so no problem

    • @sakootdacca6706
      @sakootdacca6706 3 місяці тому

      Not so. In the Bible the Jews were living in the land that is now Palestinian. . Please read some history . Pakistan is a different story . Forcefull expulsion of Hindus Sikhs and Christian .

  • @supreetdeshpande9602
    @supreetdeshpande9602 6 місяців тому +30

    Ammar Ali appears to be the specimen of what is the problem ailing Pakistan.... One eyed vision and desire to appear intellectual to hide a deeply biased opinion. I am amused and fascinated by how he justified China's treatment of muslims. For Pakistan like with him, if it happens in China it's ok, but if it happens anywhere else, start crying foul. Zero credibility.

    • @RealRandomVideos
      @RealRandomVideos 5 місяців тому +1

      @@NotABlindBelieverthey will change direction of prayer towards Xi.. 😂😂

  • @varun1640
    @varun1640 6 місяців тому +39

    If the Muslims in India in 1947 could have their Pakistan, then the Jews in Palestine in 1948 should also have the right to their Israel. Jews in Palestine came from Europe and the Muslims in India came from Central Asia and the Middle East. Simple, rather symmetrical logic that Pakistanis these days seem to ignore conveniently. At least Zia ul Haq was honest enough to admit this. 😆

    • @thefishtruck
      @thefishtruck 6 місяців тому

      You’re a real buffoon if you think Muslims in the subcontinent came from elsewhere. Israel is a colonial project, pakistan for all its faults is not.

    • @beak3432
      @beak3432 5 місяців тому

      Thats not true, Pakistani and Indian Muslims share same DNA as non Muslims here. They did not COME from somewhere.

  • @avtarwasson4875
    @avtarwasson4875 6 місяців тому +8

    Kalidas was the best playright of the subcontinent and preceded Shakesphere.

  • @Ravi-yi1lo
    @Ravi-yi1lo 6 місяців тому +21

    " Palestine ko kya kiye? Kut diye , unke Ghar mein ghuske"- Chaudhary Benjamin Netanyahu 😂😂

    • @mayan5600
      @mayan5600 6 місяців тому +5

      Should I recommend some psychitarist to you? I'm from India too.

    • @Ravi-yi1lo
      @Ravi-yi1lo 6 місяців тому +6

      @@mayan5600 I m ok, btw thanks for showing concern.

    • @onestar627
      @onestar627 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@mayan5600he is ok

    • @Takecare55
      @Takecare55 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@mayan5600how do you deal with those who take your women sister children and elderly as hostage and war booty? If you don't have an answer Ben Netanyahu is showing you how.

    • @Rabindra_
      @Rabindra_ 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@mayan5600haha eternal gullible Hindu

  • @jitupattnaik6140
    @jitupattnaik6140 6 місяців тому +8

    Ye Left ke naam pe Islami hai, hogaya aap logon ka bohot.... 🙏

  • @drawingkids6067
    @drawingkids6067 6 місяців тому +7

    Bhai tunhare liye Britishers or israel ek honge hamare liye nhi hai 😂😂😂 samajh jao ye

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +1

      Meri tumhari baat hee nahee hay. Historu kee baat hay

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +1

      archive.org/details/ten-myths-about-israel-by-ilan-pappe-2017 chapter 4

  • @randmht9976
    @randmht9976 6 місяців тому +4

    Kashmiri Hindus bhi apne gher wapas jana chahate he

  • @avtaralex
    @avtaralex 6 місяців тому +7

    Grooming gangs in England

  • @RysaM-ir6tk
    @RysaM-ir6tk 6 місяців тому +4

    Remember "Black September" ?? Jordan's King Hussein killed more Palestinians in 11 days than Israel could kill in 20 years, former Israeli Defence Minister Moshe Dayan is quoted by authors to have said. And it was none other than Pakistan’s General Muhammad Zia-Ul-Haq, then a Brigadier, who helped King Hussein carry out the massacre of 25,000 Palestinians, in what is now known as Black September of 1970.

  • @Mussadi_Lal
    @Mussadi_Lal 6 місяців тому +13

    There r many communities Jo puri khatam kar di gayi hai. He is speaking about Kashmiri Pundits.
    Jo do char bachhe hai un Kashmiri Pundits ko bhi Chabbi Latkani chahiye.

    • @SimranDhillon186
      @SimranDhillon186 6 місяців тому

      Bjp ne kya kiya unke liae

    • @Mussadi_Lal
      @Mussadi_Lal 6 місяців тому +5

      @@SimranDhillon186 Ye kya statement hai.
      Singapore ne kya Kiya hai Hamas ke liye?

  • @avtarwasson4875
    @avtarwasson4875 6 місяців тому +6

    Have a discussion on as to why Muslim countries refuse to take muslim refugees? Sometimes adjacent countries have to take them. Some take them to getUN funding like Pakistan, Jordan etc.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +2

      instagram.com/reel/CzTyze4r-D4/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

    • @subhasisghosh66
      @subhasisghosh66 6 місяців тому +3

      Why just Muslims nations refusing taking Muslim refugees? Pakistan refuses to take Bihari speaking Bangladeshis after 1971. But there is one fun fact to help you understand.
      From 1948 till 1990, Kuwait allowed over 3 lakh Palestinians to live and work in their country. But when Iraq attacked Kuwait in 1990, the Palestinians supported the Iraqis. When Kuwait became free again in 1991 it expelled almost all the Palestinians.

  • @snehashispanda1651
    @snehashispanda1651 6 місяців тому +3

    The Jewish exodus from Arab countries, was the departure, flight, expulsion, evacuation of Jews from Arab Muslim world, mainly from 1948. The reasons for the exoduses are manifold such as persecution, antisemitism, political instability and poverty.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950%E2%80%931951_Baghdad_bombings you forgot Israeli bombs as a reason

  • @knavbrar
    @knavbrar 6 місяців тому +8

    6:16 so basically imperialism was the word which Mohammad started doing and told his followers to do so

  • @earth6281
    @earth6281 6 місяців тому +6

    Wow the guy's justifying china's actions
    Are we even surprised??

  • @debamalyadey8904
    @debamalyadey8904 6 місяців тому +13

    Some intellectuals are talking about atrocities happening in Gaza and codemning it...but they did not had any problem what USA did in afganistan by killing innocent civilians with help of none other than pakistan....
    They did not have any problem, when ham@s attacked innocent civilians of isreal.....
    And they will not have any problem, if tomorrow all arab nations attacked isreal and destroy it completely along with all the innocent civilians ( and that is the ultimate agenda of Ham@s )
    Where there is a war, there will always be atrocities against civilian population....
    The difference is atrocities against one side or another suits your agenda, which is deplorable and worse people don't even admit it, and termed it as a necessary steps for greater good....
    And lastly, ham@s attack need to be condemned, especially when they have no capability whatsoever to protect its citizen....They wanted isreal to attack back, and play the victim card, so they could get some geo-political attention, and they are happy to sacrifice its own civilian for it....

  • @MuhammadKhubaibAzam
    @MuhammadKhubaibAzam 6 місяців тому +20

    I haven't been familiar with this individual before, but it's safe to assume that if Sir Shehzad chooses to feature someone on his podcast, that person is likely worth tuning in for.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +8

      Meri guarantee hay is podcast par, this is one of our best podcasts honestly
      Thank you

    • @MuhammadKhubaibAzam
      @MuhammadKhubaibAzam 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ThePakistanExperience I appreciate it, Sir Shehzad. Even though it's currently 3:20am PST, staying up late to watch is definitely worthwhile.

  • @onestar627
    @onestar627 6 місяців тому +12

    Does pakistan have left I don't believe this 🤔🤔🤔

    • @whomraja1704
      @whomraja1704 6 місяців тому +2

      Yeah they read namaz five times a day and believe in 72 houries

    • @rabaildurrani
      @rabaildurrani 6 місяців тому

      Do you have left? Left HEMISPHERE? I don’t think so. 🤔🤔🤔

  • @supreetdeshpande9602
    @supreetdeshpande9602 6 місяців тому +5

    The conflict between Hamas and Israel is NOT a conflict of land as you have said in this podcast and have tried to portray in several others. If in doubt, read Hamas' manifesto. That is clear enough.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому

      twitter.com/malsaafin/status/1721718012544258429?t=2c3272b5KuijBFfZ-GaFrQ&s=19

    • @Chicagofire24
      @Chicagofire24 6 місяців тому

      Are you equating all Palestinians to Hamas. Come on man. Try using some logic instead of your emotions. You try living in a land that has absolute economic embargo and tell me how you will survive. Its all about land.

  • @randmht9976
    @randmht9976 6 місяців тому +2

    "Inshallah kabhi tuttenge ye settlement, wo wapas ayenge, to long khenge violence ho rha he"
    Remember these words for if ever Kashmiri Hindus return to their homes.

  • @karandoshi8828
    @karandoshi8828 6 місяців тому +24

    I had so much respect for you man. After your hypocrisy in last few days has disappointed me

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому

      What hypocrisy?

    • @Takecare55
      @Takecare55 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@@ThePakistanExperiencenot calling Hamas Terrorist organization.

    • @Takecare55
      @Takecare55 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@ThePakistanExperiencenot talking about unconditional return of 200+ hostages

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +1

      @@Takecare55 ua-cam.com/video/uophJhTIrtM/v-deo.html have you even seen what I've said

    • @Rabindra_
      @Rabindra_ 6 місяців тому

      Your fault you are too gullible

  • @umangdesai4136
    @umangdesai4136 6 місяців тому +4

    18:12 two people don't know the full history... In Hindi there is a saying... Andhon mein Kana Raja!!

  • @deepak_arepalli
    @deepak_arepalli 6 місяців тому +8

    These guys need a good healthy dosage of J Sai Deepak😅

    • @sheryarahmed6331
      @sheryarahmed6331 6 місяців тому +1

      aby bhai kaha se uth ke ajate ho tum log? jaake starplus dekho, itna obsession q hai hamse?

    • @deepak_arepalli
      @deepak_arepalli 6 місяців тому +2

      @@sheryarahmed6331 if you have disease ( in this case ideology and terrorism emanating from Pakistan) in ones body ( in this case the region ) then you can't term my constant search for prognosis ans diagnosis as an obsession.

    • @righteousrebellious2330
      @righteousrebellious2330 6 місяців тому

      j sai deepak is idiot woh bhi aala darze ka

    • @ashokbobade9257
      @ashokbobade9257 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@deepak_arepalliwhat about atrocities on lower caste in India

    • @deepak_arepalli
      @deepak_arepalli 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ashokbobade9257 aha!! Caught ye...what makes u think that I am not one of them ....lol...i admit caste based discrimination is a reality which our society is trying to fight and eliminate but it is not as perverse as the ideological rot prevalent in pakistan and certainly we don't play victim card over it. Problem with Pakisatn is they think they are similar to us and our polity and just because of the political dispensation there is fissure amongst us. Nothing can be more untrue than that.

  • @anitapadhi325
    @anitapadhi325 6 місяців тому +5

    Its good to know pakistani intellectuals are below par. Find your own heroes kabhi Shaheed Bhagat Singh ko misquote karte ho kabhi BR Ambedkar, had these 2 greats said the things they wrote in their book on Ideology ,BR Ambedkar said and I quote
    “Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,”
    BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’. I donot subscribe to this view Ambedkar has criticized every religion but he is creator of Modern India; whose contribution is unparallel. He would have been hanged in Pak for this.

  • @Justice4All-
    @Justice4All- 6 місяців тому +3

    People are choosing to start the history from 1940s. All the while Jews and Christians were living there before Islam. Then a few years after prophet Mohammed’s death, khalifa Umer attacked Jerusalem and took over. That’s how Muslims came there. I would call that the Muslim occupation of Palestine that continues till today. How ironic is that?!!

    • @Mohidful
      @Mohidful 6 місяців тому

      moron read history jews were killed during the time umer he was the one that actually brought the jews to settle there as Jerusalem is scared for all three Abrahamic religions. Muslims took from byzantine (romans) and it became a hub for jews christians and muslims. same happened when salahudin conquered Jerusalem.

    • @Mohidful
      @Mohidful 6 місяців тому

      as far jews go yes they were living there those tribes yeminites jews and other arab jews not the European ones that had zionist ideology

  • @mayankpatel8232
    @mayankpatel8232 6 місяців тому +16

    Such a victimhood narrative…

    • @pinkythakur9554
      @pinkythakur9554 6 місяців тому +1

      this "Islamist cockroach" Shehzad justified the actions by Hamas by comparing it to 1857 violence.

  • @sk-to5gk
    @sk-to5gk 6 місяців тому +3

    Jab hamas ne hamla kiya tab duniya k sare muslim ya to khusi mana rhe the ya chupchap baithe the.lekin jaise hi Israel ne marna suru kiya muslimo ki humanity ekdam se jaag gayi.aisi selective kisim ki humanity ab nhi chalne wali h.

  • @hpjoshi8120
    @hpjoshi8120 6 місяців тому +7

    Indians never considered Palestinians as terrorists. Yasir Arafat used to call Mrs. Indira Gandhi as "sister".

  • @ultimateuv
    @ultimateuv 6 місяців тому +3

    Bhai dekho jb tk indian parties musli*m votes ke liye sirf 🇵🇸Palestine ka saat deti thi, tb tak india ek shandar aur badiya mulk tha
    Ab jab India ki ek gov. Party Israel🇮🇱 ka bhi saath deti h bina musli*m vote bank ki chinta kiye, to india ek bekar, radical aur julmi mulk ban gaya h. So agar aapko acha mulk bane rahna h to aapko musli*m ko khush karke hi rahna padega.

  • @viveksehgal1842
    @viveksehgal1842 6 місяців тому +3

    Palestine has an fully functional most modern embessy is the heart of embessy area of New Delhi. India has not abandoned the cause of Palestine, its only the violence perpetrated by HAMAS which India strongly condemned. .

  • @avtaralex
    @avtaralex 6 місяців тому +5

    China war on terror kar raha likin Israel zadati kar raha hai😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Skjiseeker8483
      @Skjiseeker8483 6 місяців тому

      Kse nhi kar rha h vo American ke under me aata h isliye koi bolta nhi America yeha afg me aa Jaye colony nhi bna ske na

  • @nagesharas5136
    @nagesharas5136 5 місяців тому +2

    If Ghaza is "an open air jail created by Israel", who created the ghettos in the most open Western societies such as France, UK, Denmark, etc.?
    Fact is, Muslims tend to create a dense ghetto for themselves anywhere in the World. Such ghettos become a hotbed of discontent, rebellion and anti-social activities. The host population is barred from entering these ghettos.
    The Muslim ghettos are called "No-Go zones" by the locals. Violence in France started from its largest ghetto.
    Denmark has passed laws to dismantle such ghettos and disperse densely packed Muslim immigrants. They also want to teach local values to all Muslim children for 25 hours a week.
    In France, police started taking action on Muslims who started praying in public spaces. Italy will close down neatly 1000 public places that are used without authorization for prayers.
    This shows a serious inability of the Muslims to integrate themselves with the host population. When the hosts react to this "othering", they are labeled as Islamophobic!
    That's why right-wing political parties who oppose Muslim immigration are gaining traction in several European countries (Poland, Netherlands, Italy, etc.)

  • @prakhargupta1405
    @prakhargupta1405 6 місяців тому +4

    "Ye sare secular log the jaise Laila Khalid jinhone plane Hijack bhi kiya tha jo bahut daring kaam tha " ye dono kaise jahil hain yaar ye poori duniya ko Pakistani Kaum jaisa jahil samjhte hain kya 😂😂😂 Arabs ne war kari 2 nation declaration ko mana nahi par jab haar gaye tak victim card khel diya waah 😂

  • @UkAla-dz9dz
    @UkAla-dz9dz 6 місяців тому +5

    Shehzad, I missed your podcasts man. You used to churn them out like clockwork, and then suddenly there were none coming. Please keep them consistently coming, some of us have little in terms of a fresh breath of air.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +9

      Boss abhi bhi speed say arahay hain. Was in Lahore shooting these last week toh thora delay agaya bus

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +15

      16 podcasts and 4 solo videos in the last 60 days thats a video every 3 days aur kya bachay kee jaan lai gai aap 😭

    • @UkAla-dz9dz
      @UkAla-dz9dz 6 місяців тому

      @@ThePakistanExperience Ik tou nashay baichray ho, phir jub zada mango tou shikwa 🥲

    • @shaharyarsheikh5291
      @shaharyarsheikh5291 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ThePakistanExperiencepees pees k nikalwaein ge podcast🤣

  • @omeirahmedkhan6155
    @omeirahmedkhan6155 6 місяців тому +1

    Very good and informative podcast. Thank you so much for inviting Ammar

  • @shubhankarjaiswal8282
    @shubhankarjaiswal8282 6 місяців тому +3

    Just a innocent question, if idea of Isreal is wrong. How on earth do you justify creation of Pakistan?
    Also, agar Nehru, Gandhi or India itna zyada ache h toh partition kyu kiya ?
    Will you openly criticise Jinnah like we do for Gandhi and Nehru.
    Answer is big NO. Please learn to call a spade a spade and see the obvious. I do not support Israel's brutality on innocent people but what Hamas did was equally bad.
    I hope I have put forward my thoughts clearly. Love from India❤

  • @abhinav5847
    @abhinav5847 6 місяців тому +6

    There are Palestine supporters too just as India has supported Palestine for long. It's democracy ofc some people would have different opinion and ofc some would be wrong, its messy but it is there.
    this constant berating of Hindus and Indians, there are more than one type of Indian and more than one type of Hindu. believe it or not those who do not vote for certain people, (like me) and not only they are sizable but almost half of the country. we never hear about them on Pakistani podcasts? while I tune for liberal Pakistanis not brushing them all with broad paint brush.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому

      Where was the berating?

    • @Shva927
      @Shva927 6 місяців тому +3

      Well it seems u r new on this podcast (and r left tilted in ideology)and see pakistani people same as other Indians but make no mistake they are very different in opinion and even the extreme right of center hindutvavadi people are more liberal in their opinion than any pakistani left.
      Seeing sahzad may confuse u . But don't get confused he is just one of the handfuls.
      They hate hindus, they have objection to basic customs of Hinduism (assuming u r Hindu) .
      They hate Christians( assuming u r Christian) .
      They hate u if u r of any other religion besides islam, in that case too there r many conditions.
      The sooner u come in contact to the reality the better.
      Pakistani r not same as Indians and never will.
      And please stop this wokism 🙏 - I mean don't support BJP etc , time will teach u left has done much harm to non islamic society, but r dead in Islamic State.
      U r Indian and don't seek validation from anyone especially pakistani.

    • @debamalyadey8904
      @debamalyadey8904 6 місяців тому +1

      Where was berating????.....someday try to find some sizable amount of time, and try to find the actual meaning of a term you frequestly use, "Hindutva Ideology".... use of this particular term by most of so-called "intellectuals" in your country, is equivalant when some people use " Islamic Mindset" to describe terror!sm....

    • @Shva927
      @Shva927 6 місяців тому +1

      @@debamalyadey8904 bro, how in the hell can u compare islamic ideology to hindutva, islamic ideology do tell u to kill, rape or do stuff to kafirs and what does hindutva say - to unite hindus, correct me if I m wrong.
      What the fuck u r comparing!

    • @abhinav5847
      @abhinav5847 6 місяців тому

      @@debamalyadey8904 appeared to me since past month, constant india, palestine israel. little excessive.

  • @ultimateuv
    @ultimateuv 6 місяців тому +3

    Kuch mt dekho bus ye check kro ki ye dono aadmi kitni baar hama*s ka criticism krege aur kitni der tk?? Baki pure 2 ghante to Israel ko gaaliyaan hi deni h

  • @hpjoshi8120
    @hpjoshi8120 6 місяців тому +3

    Palestinians used to study in India and be friends with the locals.

  • @zenith355
    @zenith355 6 місяців тому +9

    So according to this guy re-education of uyghur muslim is not a bad thing. They can eat pork & have alcohol without feeling guilty, good to know.

    • @thefishtruck
      @thefishtruck 6 місяців тому

      90 percent of these stories are pure propaganda. People need to understand how western media operates against countries that threaten US interests/domination.

  • @thousandwaala8935
    @thousandwaala8935 6 місяців тому +6

    Afgan refugees k uper bhi ek poora complete podcast banao .kyu nhi banate mujhe pata hai.😂😂

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому

      We talked about it in the muzamil podcast. 1:10:00 around that mark.
      In case you think we are afraid

  • @SamirMishra6174
    @SamirMishra6174 6 місяців тому +3

    @13.28 he says Israel has no threat from Hamas, maybe he doesn't know about the Hamas attacks on October 7th

  • @imran-saleem
    @imran-saleem 6 місяців тому +1

    This individual is unaware that these are not rehabilitation centers but detention facilities comprising over one million Chinese Muslims.

  • @eleghari
    @eleghari 6 місяців тому +4

    Speaking of "terrorists", you guys mentioned Vietcong and Hamas but surprisingly failed to mention the Irgun aka The Stern Gang.
    Also, conversely, remember Taliban (then called "mujahideen") were the creation of CIA and were the good guys (even the first space shuttle flight was dedicated to them and there leaders were equated to the US founding fathers by President Reagan)

    • @eleghari
      @eleghari 6 місяців тому

      Also what is Hamas but the PLO of yesterday...

  • @yashsrivastava5486
    @yashsrivastava5486 6 місяців тому +7

    British imperialism is bad when ,they support israel against hamas but same becomes good when they support Kosovo against Serbia .U guys are talking about Palestinian childrens ,why can't gulf nations take Palestinian refugees atleast the childrens and women as even the middle east nations want to make their region the new Europe instead they are conducting concerts, sports competitions and events .On the other hand u guys are even sending afghanis back instead of legitimising their stay as they have lived for so many years in pakistan.

    • @thefishtruck
      @thefishtruck 6 місяців тому

      Almost all Gulf states are western client regimes. Egypt, Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman, UAE are all autocracies backed by the west. They host U.S. military bases, buy weapons from US and Israel and are politically aligned with them too against the Palestinians.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому

      ^ that and also the people of Palestine refuse to be made refugees again and have their land stolen

    • @anitapadhi325
      @anitapadhi325 6 місяців тому

      @@ThePakistanExperience please give them refuge in Pak the land of pure;what stops you send troops fight for them; empty words is great for earning dollars.

  • @krishanukrori2452
    @krishanukrori2452 6 місяців тому +3

    PLO peaceful struggle😂😂😂

  • @vikas__patel24
    @vikas__patel24 6 місяців тому +4

    Yes palastineans ki courage ko salute aur 1900 saal baad apni promised land pe wapas aa kar two state solutions ko man ne wale Israeli colonizer ban gaye .. wahh

  • @deo0630
    @deo0630 6 місяців тому +1

    Islam's conquest and expansion has huge similarity on how he describes imperialism - which involves humiliation (rapes / forced conversion), superiority (no explanation needed), economic control (penalties on Kaafirs), etc. However, nobody is ready to have this conversation. Any such discussion is labelled as Islamophobia. Host himself in his interview with NewsLaundry fellow, acknowledged that he is fine with this as historically everyone was cruel and done bad things - but that is not the case with majority of Indians. No history of venturing out to expand the influence or control others.

  • @supreetdeshpande9602
    @supreetdeshpande9602 6 місяців тому +3

    If war is to be avoided, then people should learn to look ahead instead of remaining slaves of the past. No one can deny atrocities happenned in the past but those cannot be used to justify atrocities ahead. For that crying victimhood must stop else, this will keep happening.

  • @MB-gv2bg
    @MB-gv2bg 6 місяців тому +4

    17:51, tumhare India main sunn rahe logo ke taraf se, Nehru Gandhi was imposed on us by Congress, I have not met one Indian who supports Nehru or Gandhi, to most of them Nehru was a British Agent and Gandhi favored muslims over the Hindus. So, what Nehru Gandhi did in the past was never our collective decision, arrey Gandhi could have saved Bhagat Singh, but he did not kyunki kursi chakkar babu bhaiya, Bhagat Singh's reputation as the son of the soil far exceeded 10 gandhi put together and gandhi feared Bhagat's rise.

    • @mohakroy821
      @mohakroy821 6 місяців тому +2

      37% bjp voters are not all indian
      And your whatsapp university knowledge is incredible 😂😂😂

    • @MB-gv2bg
      @MB-gv2bg 6 місяців тому

      @@mohakroy821 99.99 percent of congressi supporters are pakis 👍

  • @nikhilgokhale07
    @nikhilgokhale07 6 місяців тому +2

    Funny how these guys called missiles by hamas as “fuljhadiya”😂 .. it is not israel’s fault if hamas / iran cant produce better …

  • @bineetgulati9
    @bineetgulati9 5 місяців тому +1

    Instead of what happened to minorities in Pakistan itself. Pakistanis discuss every other issue of the world. Its like saade ghar ch ghyo ni te dujji gali ch vyaah vekkhan chaliye 😂😂😂

  • @thereflection
    @thereflection 6 місяців тому +3

    Someone told me once that the deepest desire of an individual is to manifest himself to the world exactly as he is! If it’s true, Pakistanis are the farthest from that!

    • @RealRandomVideos
      @RealRandomVideos 5 місяців тому

      It’s like a switch which naturally gets ON in them when speaking to/in public..

  • @dhiraj6380
    @dhiraj6380 6 місяців тому +7

    Aspas ki bat kar...... Balochistan ko azadi kab donge. 😅😅😅

    • @sanahasnain
      @sanahasnain 6 місяців тому +1

      😅

    • @alihoti4436
      @alihoti4436 6 місяців тому

      Manipur ko azadi kab du ge

    • @sitarampradhan8488
      @sitarampradhan8488 6 місяців тому +1

      ​Manipur don't asking freedom. They are asking special treatment and right. But in India all are equal. Period

    • @righteousrebellious2330
      @righteousrebellious2330 6 місяців тому

      ​@@alihoti4436manipur is not asking for freedom idiot

    • @anitapadhi325
      @anitapadhi325 6 місяців тому +1

      @@alihoti4436 Balochistan KPK pehle shurwaat tum karo...Islam ko follow karo kayede se; tumhara religion v to bolta h ye baat;prove karo sache Muslim ho

  • @avinashmishra7735
    @avinashmishra7735 6 місяців тому +1

    Britishers were colonialists but not Mughals. How sweet these hypocrites are? Muslims bhi Spain aur Hindustan tehzeeb dene gye the

  • @vijaysingh-xy4mb
    @vijaysingh-xy4mb 6 місяців тому +2

    Caliphate movement is not khilafat movement, it's khalifat movement.

  • @deepikavishnu1735
    @deepikavishnu1735 6 місяців тому +4

    From this podcast totally unrelated thing came to my mind, India is unlike Pakistan is embracing it's culture thus India is going in relatively better direction

  • @Outofthisworld794
    @Outofthisworld794 6 місяців тому +4

    22:20 shukr hai ye chez ab masses me discuss hui hai zia ko islam ka khadim smjhne waly pakistanio ki b zra ankhy khuli😂
    27:00 uski mout pr Israeli awam ne memes bnai thi uski mout tk ka mazak bnaya gya
    38:50 "I do not admit that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race has come in and taken its place"
    -Churchill
    1:28:00 free market nhi, free monopolies 💯
    Thank you for your efforts TPE❤
    Please make a detailed video on what is happening in Congo and who is the beneficiary

  • @merebaap88
    @merebaap88 6 місяців тому +2

    So guys when is Pakistanis vacating homes of hIndus in Lahore and Karachi....and Pakistan occupied Kashmir.....woh Hindus ke Ghar Hindus ke mandir.....kab khalii kar rahe ho

  • @existen1075
    @existen1075 6 місяців тому +2

    Gaza ka RR karo lekin afghani logo ki baat matt karo😂😂😂doglapan

  • @user-vs5fg9uq3d
    @user-vs5fg9uq3d 6 місяців тому +7

    No one will buy your opinion on Palestine

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  6 місяців тому +1

      We are not selling it either.

    • @ambrishyadav2163
      @ambrishyadav2163 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ThePakistanExperience
      You are selling it day and night
      In fact your whole earnings for this month will be through supporting Hamas
      Converted muslim

  • @umayr2935
    @umayr2935 6 місяців тому +3

    Great. Will be a well spent evening.

  • @mustafaahmed1989
    @mustafaahmed1989 6 місяців тому +2

    great conversation!

  • @TheMawalli128
    @TheMawalli128 6 місяців тому

    This is super condensed! Well done lads

  • @anhaadevoursyou
    @anhaadevoursyou 6 місяців тому +3

    india supports both Israel and palestine yes you might find indian nationalist supporting Israel but thats just a minority we also have kattar Palestinian supporters indian govt slightly favour's Israel more because of military interest as Israel supports india against china and pakistan and ofc we have indian jewish community and many indian's working in Israel and just like in pakistan where media promotes pakistan-turkey relations our media promotes india-Israel relations funny enough india also supports armenia but Israel supports Azerbaijan along with pakistan because of their military and economic interests india also sent aids to palestine lekin iske baarien mai koi baat nhi karega :)