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But that is most things. Almost every single "classic" nobody asked for. That is why criticism like "who asked for this?" Or "who is this for?" are meaningless.
I love that this show is real in the way that every time penguin tries to pivot to a new plan some loose end catches up and ruins it. Really shows that the lifestyle is about always having contingency plans and always looking over your shoulder. And thats without Batmans attention yet.
The actor who played Vic’s dad was in one of my short films years ago, and I didn’t know he was in the show, so when he popped up I was like “wooooow, that’s awesome, way to go dude”
100% Carmine was the Hangman. He was shown to default to strangulation whenever he kills women in the movie. Sophia being around her father would likely have some connection to the women for the police. She did something that Carmine didn't like, so he framed her for his crimes. We know he has no care for his own children, seeing as he abandoned Selina and then tried to kill her(by strangulation like her mother).
@@Zay-i1lNew York is New York? Idk where it came from, but there’s a common misconception that Gotham is supposed to be NYC or that Gotham is IN NYC, but that’s not true.
Lmaooo, that random Chappelle bit that Suraj dropped at @11.26 killed me. "Zip it up and zip it out.... aahh ok, Zippity doo dah Dave" lol. His early specials were pure fucking gold!
Honestly Penguin in this show reminds me of MCU Kingpin. Both men say they care about people close to them but their inherent selfishness makes is so if they person they care about is no longer useful or does what they want they discard them easily.
Sophia already knows that penguin has been playing both sides. That's why he left her there with the other people. Because if you notice when Victor pulls up they are having a conversation.
Gonna defend leaving Sofia. The Maroni's showed up and shouted that Penguin double crossed them, if Sofia makes it out she will put 2 and 2 together and figure out he was working with them in some capacity, the people she believes killed her brother. She already doesn't trust him. His best bet is her being gunned down in the street.
Oz seems to be using his real emotions for things he really cares about but then can twist stories to make it seem like those emotions are for the other people. I do think he cares about Vic though. Probably the ONLY person he actually trusts.
I am loving the show. I'm so glad you guys are reacting to it. Love the couch crew. I think this is something Mickie would definitely love to react to. Miss him in the reactions.
This is perhaps my favorite episode, and the saddest thing was Victor's context. And also that Sophia was not responsible for having been blamed for the consequences of being classified as: the arcodaro, and Falcone tried to do the same with Selina. And then vic... helps and rescues his beloved boss.
The reason the flood was so realistic. Was because it was a real miniature city and the water was real. Basically with some good lighting and camera work. They made the miniature city look like an actual city being destroyed.
1:36 I wouldn't say Joker: Folly a Deux was 'review bombed' because that refers specifically to the practice of flooding something with extremely negative reviews because people hate something about it separate from the quality (or lack thereof) of the film itself. It's more like there's a consensus that it's shit, rather than people intentionally dragging the tomatometer/metascore down because they want it to fail. Review bombing only kinda works, if you're looking out for it it's pretty easy to spot and disregard.
I was mad surprised when they filmed in chinatown cuz thats where I skate and ive seen film crews multiple times there and I was wondering what they were filming. Come to find out its The Penguin!
I have this crazy theory that Matt Reeves is showing us his version of Robin since the kid is an original character for the show Maybe by the shows end he has a fallout with Penguin Goes back to stealing rims. Tries to steal Batmobile rims Gets caught than recruited by Batman Like Jason todd
Remember - daddy dearest was the one with a penchant for strangling the ladies... And yeah, DC has always been happy to run stories off canon. I get the impression Elseworlds is a broader church than Marvel's "What If?" stuff. A very large percentage of my comic collection are stories and series that are artists or writers or creative teams presenting their own interpretation of characters I love (mostly Bats, I'm more about his world than that of the larger DC pantheon). The movies have been following this for years - we think of them as Burtons's Batman, Schumacher's Batman, Nolan's Batman, Reeves' Batman... I love the fact that there's no hard and fast rules about portrayals. Sure, it means there are things that I don't really connect to, but that just makes the ones I like all the more special to me. It's a different approach to what Marvel does with the MCU (and what they do is perfectly fine!), and I appreciate that.
Well, if you remember, Carmine strangled his victims in The Batman, like Anika, and also tried to kill Selina, his own "flesh-and-blood", in the same manner. So the theory, that he in fact is the Hangman, isn't that far fetched. That being said, Arkham for sure did a number on Sofia and she did kill a kid without hesitation in the first episode. And I don't think Bliss will lead to anything with Scarecrow honestly, the way they described it reminds me more of Poison Ivy. Also, their chemist of Bliss is called Dr. Bloom, just like a recently new supervillain to the Batman cosmos, Mister Bloom, who in the comics tried to sell his "seeds" to The Penguin. Maybe unrelated and just a fun reference, but still quite interesting.
@@cosmicatma17yeah that sort of shit is obnoxious. I wish we could push all these political jack offs out of our nerd stuff once and for all. Like, if I never had to see political assholes completely ignoring all artistic merit I'd die happy
16:00 Thank God It Isn't Just Me! I was Worried there was something Wrong with me but now i know It's Something Wrong with all of us and that Honestly Makes me Feel Much Better!
Review bombing would be intentionally posting bad reviews of movies, tv show etc. so it doesn't become successful when said reviewer never watched the property. What happened to Joker 2 was just it was a bad movie on avg from both critics and audiences. It was confirmed Gotham is in NJ per Vic's license in the first episode. Crane is not the only psychologist / doctor in gotham. Hugo Strange is associated with Arkham more so then Crane. However I don't think they will make the drugs be connected to another member of Bat's Rogues gallery minus the chemist of the drug from the show. We shall see. And I think Sofia was covering from her brother @ hangman. Thanks for vid!
IGN his completely wrong on their opinion. It is just one guy at IGN that said it. IGN fell in 2004/2005/2006. I don't consider them a serious publication.
I suppose it's a good thing that Pat is not a career criminal because every choice he says he would make is a terrible one that surely would get him killed in the real world.
I'll take all of the DC stories I can get. If it's not all connected then who cares? James Gunn has said as much. He's cool like that. The comic books are like that. They all have different stories. Back in the day there were like 3 different versions of Batman coming out. Don't quote me on this but I think they were BATMAN, The Dark Knight and Detective Comics. I think they connected eventually. Crap, I can't remember lol. I just know there were many different versions of the story coming out at the same time.
You guys are assigning a greater level of danger to Sofia than she plainly deserves. Initially I felt the same but now I just want to give her a hug and feel a bit maudlin myself. I was hoping to feel excitement and root for her on a path to infamy but plainly that was a lie.
I disagree that they should combine the different DC universes. The vibes are completely different. The James Gunn universe is still canonically a continuation of the Snyderverse, however you feel about that. In the Gunn/Snyder universe, technology is super advanced (you’ve got like mech suits and guns that transform into other guns and whatnot) and you’ve got shark people and people who can throw fire out of their hands running around Gotham. In the Reeves universe, the Batmobile literally looks like an armored car with a jet engine attached to the back. They’re both designed to be “gritty” but the Reeves universe is more grounded.
This group including Chris would be perfect for this series since it's so dark and gritty but you guys will do also ❤️. Can y'all react to Bones and all or Longlegs for spooky season
Penguin is manipulating imo. But because he truly believes his lifestyle is better for Vic than what he currently has. And it seems Vic came to same conclusion at the end of the ep.
How much money do you make and where are you from (or, rather, where are you making said money)? I'm in Deep East Texas and I make $750/wk. Screen names on YT is fairly anonymous enough that I feel people should be able answer this honestly and semi-confidentially 😅 I'm asking here because I feel like whenever ppl discuss money-SPECIFICALLY income-you either get stats for something like a doctor, lawyer, CEO & beyond... OR one of THE most base-level jobs in the world, like a burger flipper 💀😅 WHICH there's NOTHING WRONG WITH, just meant in terms of the question, that's how it's usually presented, REGARDLESS of the medium (movies, TV series, etc) lol. You very seldom see examples of people in the middle who are just your regular, everyday things, like store managers or mailmen, and def don't get to see what THEIR lives consist of 🤷♂️ I think if 100 people from this demographic (AKA all the Normans watching out there 😜 LoL) went along with this post and just posted their weekly rate & where they're from, it would be truly indicative of what the "Average Joe" ACTUALLY makes across the country 😅
Beware the part of the intro where Suraj says joining their patreon. Joining as an official Normie Member is way of getting early access. There are further paywalls abound. It's very Linus Tech Tip-y without the abuse of Madison.
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Joker 2 wasn’t mid. It wasn’t decent bro. It was trash. It was genuinely insultingly bad. It sent the message that we as viewers are bad and wrong and it sent the message that the character the Joker is bad and wrong.
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remember remember
Literally a show nobody asked for but we didn't know we needed
The best kind of surprise. In my opinion Andor, Agatha, and The Penguin are the best shows I never thought I'd care about lol
But that is most things. Almost every single "classic" nobody asked for. That is why criticism like "who asked for this?" Or "who is this for?" are meaningless.
@@isaiah11726 Agatha is horrid 🤣
@@isaiah11726 This is just like Andor all over again to me... So fucking good.
@@sensaiuriah5440yeah agatha is nowhere near the level of andor and Penguin.
“He wasn’t a loser he was a Victor” 😂😂😂
I love that this show is real in the way that every time penguin tries to pivot to a new plan some loose end catches up and ruins it. Really shows that the lifestyle is about always having contingency plans and always looking over your shoulder. And thats without Batmans attention yet.
I can't help but quoate Logan Roy here: everything everywhere is always moving. Get used to it.
Logan understood it man 😂
Sad to see Vic' stutter got worse after he lost his parents, and it gets better when he speaks about them :-(
The actor who played Vic’s dad was in one of my short films years ago, and I didn’t know he was in the show, so when he popped up I was like “wooooow, that’s awesome, way to go dude”
@@symbolofpeacetv1578 He's not. It's literally the first video you see if you go to his channel, at least on the UA-cam App
@@symbolofpeacetv1578 He's not. It's literally the first video you see if you go to his channel, at least on the UA-cam App
@symbolofpeacetv1578 He's not, it's the first video you see when you go to his channel, on the UA-cam App anyway.
@@symbolofpeacetv1578
“Lying”
@@symbolofpeacetv1578 you spelled it incorrectly
100% Carmine was the Hangman. He was shown to default to strangulation whenever he kills women in the movie. Sophia being around her father would likely have some connection to the women for the police. She did something that Carmine didn't like, so he framed her for his crimes. We know he has no care for his own children, seeing as he abandoned Selina and then tried to kill her(by strangulation like her mother).
We're in it now vic. WE'RE IN IT NOW! 😂 Penguin loves this shit
Vic: Wait, NOW we’re in it? The past few days were the easy part? F- f-fuck!
Penguin says it all at the end “you in it now Vic” man what a great show. Love the characters development. Top notch story telling and acting.
“Take it easy sweetheart”-Penguin to The Batman
This is the best continuation of the film possible.
Vic's driver's license from episode one said Gotham is in New Jersey. :)
Comics for the past 80yrs have said Gotham is in New Jersey. :)
@@Plague14so what’s New York?
@@Zay-i1lNew York is New York?
Idk where it came from, but there’s a common misconception that Gotham is supposed to be NYC or that Gotham is IN NYC, but that’s not true.
@@Zay-i1lmetropolis
@@Plague14Todd Phillips said his gotham is heavily inspired by 80s new York City.
Lmaooo, that random Chappelle bit that Suraj dropped at @11.26 killed me. "Zip it up and zip it out.... aahh ok, Zippity doo dah Dave" lol. His early specials were pure fucking gold!
This show is absolutely incredible.
Honestly Penguin in this show reminds me of MCU Kingpin. Both men say they care about people close to them but their inherent selfishness makes is so if they person they care about is no longer useful or does what they want they discard them easily.
Random thought, but Pat sitting on that stuffed Grogu just made me laugh when I noticed lmao, that Grogu is flattened now 😂
Sophia already knows that penguin has been playing both sides. That's why he left her there with the other people. Because if you notice when Victor pulls up they are having a conversation.
Man oz left Sofia so fast I wonder what was said. Next episode should be interesting
The preview made it look like there will be a flashback to that moment from Sofia's perspective.
I think the Maronis told Sofia the truth before Vic arrived. That's why Oz had to abandon her coz she'd kill him.
She killed the kid in the first episode with no hesitation she’s still crazy just not as much but her being in in Arkham made her crazy tho
Spidey - "Mama Maronie😂❤"
Gonna defend leaving Sofia. The Maroni's showed up and shouted that Penguin double crossed them, if Sofia makes it out she will put 2 and 2 together and figure out he was working with them in some capacity, the people she believes killed her brother. She already doesn't trust him. His best bet is her being gunned down in the street.
Oz seems to be using his real emotions for things he really cares about but then can twist stories to make it seem like those emotions are for the other people. I do think he cares about Vic though. Probably the ONLY person he actually trusts.
I am loving the show. I'm so glad you guys are reacting to it. Love the couch crew. I think this is something Mickie would definitely love to react to. Miss him in the reactions.
This is perhaps my favorite episode, and the saddest thing was Victor's context. And also that Sophia was not responsible for having been blamed for the consequences of being classified as: the arcodaro, and Falcone tried to do the same with Selina. And then vic... helps and rescues his beloved boss.
The 2 times the sentence,'the show is starting' is used is great
The reason the flood was so realistic. Was because it was a real miniature city and the water was real. Basically with some good lighting and camera work. They made the miniature city look like an actual city being destroyed.
1:36 I wouldn't say Joker: Folly a Deux was 'review bombed' because that refers specifically to the practice of flooding something with extremely negative reviews because people hate something about it separate from the quality (or lack thereof) of the film itself.
It's more like there's a consensus that it's shit, rather than people intentionally dragging the tomatometer/metascore down because they want it to fail. Review bombing only kinda works, if you're looking out for it it's pretty easy to spot and disregard.
Just like the Acolyte, which was worse
I was mad surprised when they filmed in chinatown cuz thats where I skate and ive seen film crews multiple times there and I was wondering what they were filming. Come to find out its The Penguin!
At 11:00 specifically
I have this crazy theory that Matt Reeves is showing us his version of Robin
since the kid is an original character for the show
Maybe by the shows end he has a fallout with Penguin
Goes back to stealing rims. Tries to steal Batmobile rims
Gets caught than recruited by Batman
Like Jason todd
Remember - daddy dearest was the one with a penchant for strangling the ladies...
And yeah, DC has always been happy to run stories off canon. I get the impression Elseworlds is a broader church than Marvel's "What If?" stuff. A very large percentage of my comic collection are stories and series that are artists or writers or creative teams presenting their own interpretation of characters I love (mostly Bats, I'm more about his world than that of the larger DC pantheon). The movies have been following this for years - we think of them as Burtons's Batman, Schumacher's Batman, Nolan's Batman, Reeves' Batman... I love the fact that there's no hard and fast rules about portrayals. Sure, it means there are things that I don't really connect to, but that just makes the ones I like all the more special to me. It's a different approach to what Marvel does with the MCU (and what they do is perfectly fine!), and I appreciate that.
I think oz likes vic for real, because he let him know about mom.
Well, if you remember, Carmine strangled his victims in The Batman, like Anika, and also tried to kill Selina, his own "flesh-and-blood", in the same manner. So the theory, that he in fact is the Hangman, isn't that far fetched. That being said, Arkham for sure did a number on Sofia and she did kill a kid without hesitation in the first episode. And I don't think Bliss will lead to anything with Scarecrow honestly, the way they described it reminds me more of Poison Ivy. Also, their chemist of Bliss is called Dr. Bloom, just like a recently new supervillain to the Batman cosmos, Mister Bloom, who in the comics tried to sell his "seeds" to The Penguin. Maybe unrelated and just a fun reference, but still quite interesting.
Trust me when i say this.. This show hasn't even peaked yet..
How do you know?
How do you know??
How do you know???
Not a single scene in the show feels wasted. I can’t remember the last time I looked forward to a show like this
1:38 Surg is being VERY dnagerous endorising review bombing. 9/10 times review bombing isn't based on the movie quality but some form of prejudice.
I=@990+
It usually has more to do with politics than the actual movie itself
@@cosmicatma17yeah that sort of shit is obnoxious. I wish we could push all these political jack offs out of our nerd stuff once and for all.
Like, if I never had to see political assholes completely ignoring all artistic merit I'd die happy
I've never been this early. This show is gonna sweep at the Emmys next year. So much story and character packed into each episode!
hmmmmm
Yo why did Surg just tell me not to fuck with squid 😂
So many ppl still missing from the floods crime up 42% Batman is busy rich family fighting least his problem.
19:52 Lol. I didn’t even notice that.
This show is incredible
IGN gave Gotham an 8.3 and this a 5
Wait IGN actually gave this a 5/10 !! That is crazy!!
@@sidraiz22It's called having an opinion, everyone is entitled to their opinions
@@IAmTheILLIntent I know, still think it’s crazy.
16:17 I can’t get over Suraj’s moves.
I need to see him and Spidey on the dance floor ASAP
Zippiedee doo da Dave 😂😂😂
Batman after beating Vic near to death: “WHERES IS HE WHERE IS THE PENGUIN” Vic doesn’t understand what it means to be a villains goon in Gotham 💀
Love the IGN shade 😎 hahaha
How can you even do a reaction like that in this economy? 😂😂
The world is not set up for the honest man in Metropolis, Bruno Mannheim and Lex Luther are proof of that
bliss is a poison ivy thing
It’s actually from a fairly recent batman villain called mr.bloom, he’s even named dropped in the episode.
The fact episode 3 is even better than the premiere is insane! Can’t wait for the penguin to become the kingpin of Gotham 🦇🐧🔥🐐
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I'm hoping the the chemist is actually an easter egg for Mr Bloom! He'd be an incredible villain!
Maybe Poison Ivy is involved.
Review bombing would be intentionally posting bad reviews of movies, tv show etc. so it doesn't become successful when said reviewer never watched the property. What happened to Joker 2 was just it was a bad movie on avg from both critics and audiences.
It was confirmed Gotham is in NJ per Vic's license in the first episode.
Crane is not the only psychologist / doctor in gotham. Hugo Strange is associated with Arkham more so then Crane. However I don't think they will make the drugs be connected to another member of Bat's Rogues gallery minus the chemist of the drug from the show. We shall see.
And I think Sofia was covering from her brother @ hangman.
Thanks for vid!
Colin Farrell said we are going to hate the Penguin at the end of this show... I think we know what that means
I think the drug maybe has something to do with poison ivy
IGN his completely wrong on their opinion. It is just one guy at IGN that said it. IGN fell in 2004/2005/2006. I don't consider them a serious publication.
Suraj please don’t listen to review bombers. A movie ticket is $15 for 2 hours
"we dont know where gotham is"
It's in new jersey
Bruce probably went on that trip where he meets Ras, that’s was he as not around during this ?
crazy none of the normies want to watch the best series in a LONG time
Is going to the movies not a business expense? I dunno how things work
This is top tier cinema
i must've gotten manipulated right along with Victor bc that bathroom scene made my tear up. oz thought they were friends 🤧🤧
Ign lost their damn minds.
Wait IGN actually gave this a 5/10 !! That is crazy!!
Only Alberto calls him Penguin.
I suppose it's a good thing that Pat is not a career criminal because every choice he says he would make is a terrible one that surely would get him killed in the real world.
DC fans know exactly where Gotham is.
I'll take all of the DC stories I can get. If it's not all connected then who cares? James Gunn has said as much. He's cool like that. The comic books are like that. They all have different stories. Back in the day there were like 3 different versions of Batman coming out. Don't quote me on this but I think they were BATMAN, The Dark Knight and Detective Comics. I think they connected eventually. Crap, I can't remember lol. I just know there were many different versions of the story coming out at the same time.
Hello guy👋🏻. Don’t leave kid, or you be another runaway in LA😉.
Great episode
Oh yeah its damn good and I really want yall to watch Gotham lol
You guys are assigning a greater level of danger to Sofia than she plainly deserves. Initially I felt the same but now I just want to give her a hug and feel a bit maudlin myself. I was hoping to feel excitement and root for her on a path to infamy but plainly that was a lie.
9:00 with the current state of affairs id rather live in a flooded Gotham.
I disagree that they should combine the different DC universes. The vibes are completely different. The James Gunn universe is still canonically a continuation of the Snyderverse, however you feel about that. In the Gunn/Snyder universe, technology is super advanced (you’ve got like mech suits and guns that transform into other guns and whatnot) and you’ve got shark people and people who can throw fire out of their hands running around Gotham. In the Reeves universe, the Batmobile literally looks like an armored car with a jet engine attached to the back. They’re both designed to be “gritty” but the Reeves universe is more grounded.
IGN Be wild
Did Penguin shoot Sophia? There was two shots.. i didnt think they would kill her off but maybe.
I know you're a reaction channel but do you ever think "hey this is a powerful scene and monologue. Maybe I shouldn't talk over it until it's over"?
Isn't Bliss a Poison Ivy thing??
I think this was just overall a great episode of television 🤷🏾♂️ them speeches he gave to Vic and Sophia are gonn stick with me for a while
21:05 it's always sunny in philadelphia...duh
This group including Chris would be perfect for this series since it's so dark and gritty but you guys will do also ❤️. Can y'all react to Bones and all or Longlegs for spooky season
please react to peacemaker after this if you guys haven't seen it yet
This show is amazing!
Even the Gotham one wasn’t a 5/10 that’s was a L stray towards Gotham 😂
ign are trash
Penguin is manipulating imo. But because he truly believes his lifestyle is better for Vic than what he currently has. And it seems Vic came to same conclusion at the end of the ep.
Suraj gets more and more feminine every time I see him 😂😂
lol that's not 'review bombing'. The movie came out, it sucks and most of the reviews reflect that. That's it. That's normal. Lol
How much money do you make and where are you from (or, rather, where are you making said money)? I'm in Deep East Texas and I make $750/wk.
Screen names on YT is fairly anonymous enough that I feel people should be able answer this honestly and semi-confidentially 😅
I'm asking here because I feel like whenever ppl discuss money-SPECIFICALLY income-you either get stats for something like a doctor, lawyer, CEO & beyond... OR one of THE most base-level jobs in the world, like a burger flipper 💀😅 WHICH there's NOTHING WRONG WITH, just meant in terms of the question, that's how it's usually presented, REGARDLESS of the medium (movies, TV series, etc) lol. You very seldom see examples of people in the middle who are just your regular, everyday things, like store managers or mailmen, and def don't get to see what THEIR lives consist of 🤷♂️ I think if 100 people from this demographic (AKA all the Normans watching out there 😜 LoL) went along with this post and just posted their weekly rate & where they're from, it would be truly indicative of what the "Average Joe" ACTUALLY makes across the country 😅
Suraj becomes more and more his idol: Terry Silver
Haven't even started watching but already know the upoming reaction to Dr. Marvin Candle aka Dr Pierre Chang
17:02
IGN is not serious people
tuff episode fr
Gotham in New York incase y’all didn’t know
I don't know why I keep thinking they are finally going to post a reaction to Agatha All Along lol
IGN gave it a 5 out of 10 because the Penguin wasn't a chick....
Suraj is not joking IGN rate the show 5/10.
Then Tyler Robertson rate ep 3 of the Penguin 8/10.
We believe in climate change but the change needed to slow it down is too much for human greed
Nah, a lot of people don't believe in man made climate change
Beware the part of the intro where Suraj says joining their patreon. Joining as an official Normie Member is way of getting early access. There are further paywalls abound. It's very Linus Tech Tip-y without the abuse of Madison.
Patreon: $5 for 1 week early access or $10 for 6 week early access.
No paywalls. Stop with the cap and misinformation please.
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@@Thenormies Now you know how Trump feels
Joker 2 wasn’t mid. It wasn’t decent bro. It was trash. It was genuinely insultingly bad. It sent the message that we as viewers are bad and wrong and it sent the message that the character the Joker is bad and wrong.
Hey Normies, I'm such a big fan of yours. I do have a few movie request if you take the time to watch: King Kong 2005 extended cut, Deadpool & Wolverine & Sam Raimi's Spider-Man films