The Signs, Symptoms and Cures for Emotional Immaturity | Therapy & Theology

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  • @dirtydoug4558
    @dirtydoug4558 3 роки тому +265

    My wife and I are going through some very complicated times. We’ve been married for 19 years. Overtime we have grown further apart but it felt like we were growing closer together. Now everything has come to a halt. We are both working on ourselves to admit fault and recognize everything that has led us to this point. I have been the more immature one and not understanding of the compassionate side of everything. Over the past week I have done a lot of soul-searching and reading and I feel this episode resonated so heavy with me. Thank you so much for all the inspiration And the knowledge from this. Please pray for my wife and I and our 10-year-old daughter. Thank you

    • @jamiedavidson834
      @jamiedavidson834 2 роки тому +15

      What made you realize you needed to be involved in making your marriage better? My husband and I have been married for 21 yrs and are struggling once again. But, I’m told he is a grown ass man and can do what he wants?!

    • @jojodaisy4
      @jojodaisy4 2 роки тому +2

      Praying

    • @Switzer1234
      @Switzer1234 2 роки тому +5

      OVER TIME (not OVERTIME) we have grown apart.
      Overtime: The mechanic worked overtime to get the car done on time.
      Over time: He will heal over time.

    • @lilyflower1168
      @lilyflower1168 Рік тому +9

      Thanks for doing the work. Many times people aren't willing to

    • @msvidales
      @msvidales Рік тому +3

      You go boy! Praise God!!

  • @Blue77Blue
    @Blue77Blue Рік тому +40

    What you don’t work out you will act out

    • @BeverlyMullins-d4w
      @BeverlyMullins-d4w 3 місяці тому

      @@Blue77Blue that is the truth if I've ever heard it! Lol 😂 I've definitely been that person before!

  • @angelalaurel5329
    @angelalaurel5329 Рік тому +28

    I am in Separation because he is emotionally immature, bringing up the past, blame shifting, and devaluing me, threat of divorce because I will not move back because he has not made the
    Changes he was advised to do professionally and with our pastor
    Thank you for enlightening me
    I was confused and self doubting
    I realize we are not evenly yoked and it brings me down and back to the abusive past i endured for 5 years with him
    Please pray for both our healing and growth

    • @danielgradussov647
      @danielgradussov647 8 місяців тому

      Jesus recently woke me up as an abusive husband for the last couple of years. Im currently in a seperation. I have a consistent track record of significant and demonstrated changes.
      From what i experienced my perspectives were way off. I was reactive to the world around me in the times we are in, i had fears and took matters into my own hands and took control off of God and become self reliant.
      I have been delivered from a life of idolatry and lust.
      God healed my nervous system in a deliverance session, removed hypervigilance.
      The most painful experience of my life.
      The biggest thing i needed before we seperated was for somebody to get in my face and tell me if i dont pull my head in- in 6months youll be living as a single dad.
      I am now completely God reliant and have had multiple prayer ministry sessions, counciling sessions and have taken responsibility of the abuse.
      Ive lacked understanding of my emotions and didnt realise how highly dysfunction i was.
      Its a very touchy place for us blokes, have friends in similar situations who out right committed suicide due to lack of communication and understanding the situation. I chose life but i plead with the women. Please lay out clearly to your husbands your intentions or requirements if you are to get back together. I have faced the darkest days of my life.
      I have since restored my relationships with both my parents and my sister over a beef of 15 years.
      God is doing the unexplainable and impossible in a short time. Dont give up! God can change your mans heart. There are things you can do to help him see as a team rather then abandoning ship and leaving him to die.
      I experienced that, and a quote by Darby Strickland, author of the book "is it abuse" she states "often times with oppressed women is their sin is remaining silent, they are putting up with they dont want to expose whats going on in their home" another quote from Darby "as a wife you really want to limit your spouses ability to sin against you and resist their domination and expose their sin, because in their redeemed selves they will thankyou for helping you stop the damage of their heart and their call to as Christ would love his church"
      Darby Strickland "is it abuse" ref video on youtube.
      Alot of men grow up emotionally disconnected and bad Modeling. My wife and i had no premarital counciling before we got married, we were not set up for success. I dont know your situation but i know there is hope. If Jesus can turn me around 180degrees there is hope for all men. Praying for breakthrough over your husbands mind that he can look at this situation through a different lense and have a supernatural perspective shift in Jesus name. Praying that some solid Godly men and a biblical councilor cab come on the scene. In Jesus name. God Bless you.

  • @alisacinnamon1693
    @alisacinnamon1693 11 місяців тому +21

    Clothing choices are also dependent on our environment and climate. Here in Canada, we wear many more layers in a cold storm than our southern neighbors could imagine. Same with people living in abusive relationships, they will have far more protective layers, rightly so, than someone living in a warm and committed relationship.

  • @gobigandgohomeschool4882
    @gobigandgohomeschool4882 11 місяців тому +34

    It can be the hardest thing in the world to let go of the "right" to look at the other person's immaturity and stop using it as an excuse to not do your own work.

  • @reneemeredith5066
    @reneemeredith5066 3 роки тому +82

    As a RN I can’t tell you how this resonated with me in my practice! Emotional immaturity makes treatment so darn difficult. Can’t tell you how often we are verbally and sometimes physically abused! Praying through 22 hour shifts daily!

    • @OfficialProverbs31Ministries
      @OfficialProverbs31Ministries  3 роки тому +3

      We're glad this video was helpful for you, friend!

    • @colleendrake9661
      @colleendrake9661 3 роки тому +10

      My husband is a peds ER nurse - and has this experience as well. It seems that people lash out in their moments of fear and trepidation.

    • @gkarenstratton
      @gkarenstratton 8 місяців тому

      🙏🧡🤍🧡🤍😢🤍🤎🤍🧡🙏

    • @Alphacentauri819
      @Alphacentauri819 7 місяців тому +1

      I used to be an RN, now studying neuroscience…and I have come to have deep, resonate compassion, for all types of people. I was compassionate before, but this is a different level.
      If we take other’s behavior personally, aren’t meeting them where they are, and are exhausted and frustrated…this is feedback to our internal landscape. It is telling us that we still have unattended trauma, struggle with reality (accepting others as they are, doesn’t mean we like it necessarily, but that we see it as it is), and don’t have good internal energy boundaries.
      Patients are in deep fear, often having their worst past traumas/survival fears triggered. It’s not about you. Once you wholly get that, and you know who you are, know your worth…it rarely will affect you.
      The more you learn about the HPA axis, attachment theory, intergenerational trauma, epigenetics, and more…the more you can distance yourself from emotional charge and see more to the picture.
      Our own reactivity is a sign of where we can work on our own emotional maturity.
      What we see in others is merely a reflection of what we contain inside, most of the time.

    • @lynndurbin9476
      @lynndurbin9476 2 місяці тому +1

      ​Sometimes in nursing the difficulty is with coworkers or administration, as from my own personal experience the patients were thankful and more understanding. Just curious why do you really expect epigenetics to play a role in behavior? It seems your understanding knowledge comes straight from a book, not especially under the height of chaotic stress of a near war zone May God give you and all of us humility to empty ourselves to be filled with Him.​@@Alphacentauri819

  • @BeverlyMullins-d4w
    @BeverlyMullins-d4w 3 місяці тому +5

    Thanks I'm so glad to be here. This is really helping me. I'm a nurse who is Christian but was involved in a serious auto accident that has pretty much ended my career so I have no money to seek counseling for issues. It helps to know someone cares enough to provide these types of podcasts and you tube videos for those who need it as much as I do at this time.

    • @melissajenkins1637
      @melissajenkins1637 3 місяці тому +4

      Hi Sister, just want to say that you show both emotional and spiritual maturity by thanking and encouraging others in the midst of your pain. I'm sorry for what your going through and pray our Lord makes streams in the desert and pathways in the wilderness for you ❤🙏 I know He is with you and cares about all the details and is invested in your healing.

  • @paulesaturday9490
    @paulesaturday9490 Рік тому +15

    This ministry is amazing. I would love to hear from Joel more often.

  • @charmatillinger6987
    @charmatillinger6987 Рік тому +41

    This series has been phenomenal!!! I am so grateful to hear you using your voice to promote awareness of emotional abuse, dysfunctional vs destructive relationships, emotional maturity and the Biblical views of it all. Thank you for taking your story and pain and using it to bring an awareness to something many are quietly suffering with.

  • @suebell6556
    @suebell6556 2 роки тому +48

    This was so helpful, to learn how someone can appear to be spiritually mature and yet emotionally immature. This helps me understand my husband and addresses my confusion. He can sound so knowledgeable and sensible, yet is not self nor other aware and has no empathy. I also know a leader in a church like this who has succeeded in driving people away. My guess is that he has some unaddressed trauma, so he continues to hurt people even though he professes to follow the Bible.

    • @tinabrooks4397
      @tinabrooks4397 Рік тому +9

      That is my marriage to a T. I don’t believe that for me any type of communication is possible. I have been lied to, dealt, gaslighted, and spiritually abused. I pray for you.

    • @gobigandgohomeschool4882
      @gobigandgohomeschool4882 11 місяців тому +3

      So very common. Often, people can be very successful in the business or church world, yet not be able to handle personal relationships at all.

    • @Melissa-m6z
      @Melissa-m6z 10 місяців тому

      What if u have been sick for 9 months , doctors , specialists and finally awaiting surgery. I am thankful for the videos, I'm hurting so much, I really wish my partner or the one who I thought I could speak about anything to, just tells me it's not his responsibility to be of help for me at this challenging time. I guess women should just be silenced right as that has been said to me but the vulgar kind.i don't think the parents of your bf trying to conjour demons out of u on your bday from the bible is ok either, it was one of the most traumatic experiences of many. Having pressure pushing in my brain and though my nerve system has not been the most amazing time.

    • @melissajenkins1637
      @melissajenkins1637 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@Melissa-m6z Sister, I'm so sorry for your pain and I pray Jesus brings you healing, companionship, and freedom. You are not alone, no matter how you feel....He is extra close to the broken hearted. I hope and pray He brings you full restoration. 🙏 ❤

  • @KDT227
    @KDT227 Рік тому +7

    That young man shared a powerful gospel thought. Most profound in the whole discussion. I was hoping to hear more from him. Give him more opportunities to express more the next time around 😊

  • @bettymakin5842
    @bettymakin5842 3 роки тому +20

    This was such a great message for me to hear today. As others have commented, it is difficult when, through working on your own emotional maturity, it becomes more difficult to be in relationship with those who want to continue to dance the dance of dysfunction. I am wrestling through grief for an important family relationship that is just not healthy for me right now. This message has been both challenging and validating.
    Thank you so much for this important resource.

  • @tonypickar7541
    @tonypickar7541 3 роки тому +59

    These are so well done. I loved the ending so much that I had to write it in my journal. Because I did, I am sharing it below. I have done my best to capture the thoughts word for word or as close as I could. I hope it encourages you today.
    What am I? Am I emotionally mature or emotionally immature? I am the maturity, spiritually and emotionally, that I choose to clothe myself in each day. So many times when we talk about some of the principles of therapy, it seems like you've got to do your work and it's like this long-term payoff. But the payoff can be yours today. The peace of Christ can rule in your heart today. When you choose daily to clothe yourself with these principles, kindness and compassion, you can do it today. Today, be compassionate. Today, be kind. Today, be loving. Today, choose to be gentle. When you do this, you are wearing the victorious signs that you belong to Christ and the peace of Christ will rule in your heart. Now does that mean that you need to allow people to take advantage of you? Is this choice to let God rule in your life today a sign of weakness? NO! This is a sign of incredible strength because what you are choosing to do is you are saying Jesus’ power is full and alive in me and I can still be compassionate. I mean these other people can act like fools if they want to, but I'm not freely handing over my power to them. I am saying you do not have enough power over me to make me act foolishly. I have closed myself with compassion and kindness today, and it's not a determination of what you may deserve or not deserve. It's because I deserve to let the peace of Christ rule in me. I am letting the peace and the power of Christ rule in me so that I can be an agent of compassion and kindness and love even in this world that's full of brokenness and abuse and abandonment and rejection and all the other things. You deserve to have the peace of Christ rolling in you today.

    Remember that it is “progress not perfection” if you're working on emotional maturity and emotional sobriety. It's going to be very hard to truly connect with the person who is walking with you or around you who's in emotional immaturity. So do not be surprised and don't go into judgment of them, but it will separate people in relationships. Just remember that you can have a closet full of all the greatest clothing in Christ, and if you don't daily move from what I call the inspirational to the intentional, the clothing of Christ is of no use or value. The intentional is daily, “I gotta get in that closet, open up, and intentionally dress myself.” If you don’t, you'll be able to stay in emotional immaturity for a long time.

    Water seeks its own level. Never have you seen water on a flat surface where the water is low on one side and high on the other. Just like the gravitational forces help water achieve equilibrium, so will the pressures of life make it very evident that equilibrium in a relationship is only possible when both people are equally committed to healthy habits, self-awareness, and empathy for the feelings of the other. When one person dabbles in unhealthy habits, refuses to look at themselves through the lens of reality, and/or stops considering the feelings of the other, there will be an ever-increasing tension until you sink or they rise. Only you can decide how to either manage that ever-increasing tension between emotional maturity and emotional immaturity or when to say enough is enough, and in compassion, move on.

    • @OfficialProverbs31Ministries
      @OfficialProverbs31Ministries  3 роки тому +5

      We're glad this video was helpful to you, friend. Thank you for writing down your biggest takeaways and sharing them with everyone!

    • @lilirebeccaskinner6670
      @lilirebeccaskinner6670 2 роки тому +6

      What great word pictures of choices put before us! Putting on Christ...continually clothed in Him...moment by moment...thank you for sharing!

    • @jerrykirui2707
      @jerrykirui2707 2 роки тому +4

      Thanks for typing out the message. Very helpful indeed.

    • @andrearowe4815
      @andrearowe4815 Рік тому +1

      I think it takes a lot of healing and self awareness..

    • @svwerner2877
      @svwerner2877 10 місяців тому +1

      38 years unequally yoked. Really Struggling. Boys grown. Silent treatment for months. Feel very alone. I have been seeing Christian Counseler. Paying majority of bills.Been on vacation visiting son in Florida for 10 days not 1 text or call. Ready to move on. Please pray for me. I know God hates divorce.

  • @Dawn-tv1bk
    @Dawn-tv1bk 2 роки тому +11

    “Water seeks its own level. Never have you seen a glass of water sitting on a flat surface, where the water is low on one side and high on the other. Just like the gravitational forces help water achieve equilibrium so will the pressures of life make it very evident that equilibrium in a relationship is only possible when both people are equally committed to healthy habits self awareness and empathy for the feelings of the other. When one person dabbles in unhealthy habits, refuses to look at themselves through the lens of reality and/or stops considering the feelings of the other, there will be an ever increasing tension until you sink or they rise. Only you can decide how to either manage that ever increasing tension between emotional maturity and emotional immaturity or when to say enough is enough and in compassion move on.” WOW!

    • @minez3217
      @minez3217 2 роки тому

      Yass hard lesson for me to take care of me

  • @lisamensch6271
    @lisamensch6271 Рік тому +8

    Love the Theology and Counselor mix!

  • @karlamarie1235
    @karlamarie1235 3 роки тому +12

    Thank you so much sister Lisa for therapy & theology! I just came across these podcasts and they have been such a blessing in my life. May the Lord continue to use you as his vessel of healing & restoration for many lives. ❤️🙏🏼

  • @perlyutter3784
    @perlyutter3784 10 місяців тому +4

    This is so rich in wisdom. Thank you for sharing ❤

  • @RoryStreit
    @RoryStreit 2 роки тому +4

    Please keep these podcasts going! so very helpful and practical! Your efforts are so deeply appreciated. Only eternity will show how God used this information and these principles to save, protect, strengthen, and redeem! I am challenged and encouraged! Progress not perfection!

  • @minervaseals7690
    @minervaseals7690 2 роки тому +6

    Wow I Love this, very helpful. As I was hearing about the clothing that you have to wearing them every day I had a thought: “this! You have to do it” action of your side, be intentional and really act -do this.” Nobody will come and put your clothes on, it is your responsibility and your job…..Thank you so very much.

  • @maryjankowski9032
    @maryjankowski9032 Рік тому +7

    As a former teacher repetition is a good way of getting a student to remember a key point. So God uses repetition to teach us His percepts and commandments. Also the clothing aspect I see that as we age and mature in age we don't dress in clothes we wore when we were 13. The defeated King had to first remove his armor also a sign he was defeated.... We as Christians need to put on the armor of God every day so we are not defeated by the enemy...

  • @6.0hhh
    @6.0hhh 3 роки тому +15

    Thank you all so much for doing this.. Please pray for me 😔

  • @jmspegel
    @jmspegel 3 роки тому +16

    The opening couldn’t be more true...as I heal more from my childhood...the larger the gap becomes between me and my siblings.

    • @zechariah4663
      @zechariah4663 3 роки тому +3

      Same. My sister betrayed me I feel and I took a stand and told her that I did not want her to be a part of my life at all. I miss her but I feel like I am battling literally for my life. I'm questioning practically my entire life because all of the people that are in it no the old me and now that I have boundaries and I am sticking up for myself they're telling me that I am being abrasive or I'm not being fair or I'm not being empathic when I'm the one who's been hurt

    • @plansforus
      @plansforus 3 роки тому +1

      Me too! I just experienced this with my family when they came to visit me last weekend... I think this is a reality of our process. I hope it changes and they can be on this journey with me one day, but until then all we can do is pray. Bless you in your journey, sister.

    • @annicecaldwell1271
      @annicecaldwell1271 9 місяців тому

      I can totally relate ¡

  • @petkoandreev7869
    @petkoandreev7869 Рік тому +5

    Change has to come from within. I am not responsible for her feelings or happiness neither she is for mine. Being able to sit down and apologize with words and actions and being able to compromise (not one sided) are the fundament of a long-term relationship.

  • @lck2978
    @lck2978 11 місяців тому +1

    Wow! This was very insightful and helpful! And I love what Lysa says about boundaries, the dysfunctional dance, and so on. Looking forward to more!

  • @elizabethparsons3001
    @elizabethparsons3001 3 роки тому +2

    Joel puts me In tears. Thank you

  • @lynn7348
    @lynn7348 3 місяці тому +1

    I just purchased my ticket to hear you speak Lysa at Red Rocks Church in Lakewood Co. I'm so excited!!

  • @belindgo
    @belindgo 3 роки тому +2

    I learn a lot from listening to you all. I’m in recovery 15 years , and we do hear that a lot about emotional sobriety. But placing together with this makes sense. It helps me so much!! Thank you for your time and sharing this!!! So grateful!!! 😊

  • @lyzettevega1234
    @lyzettevega1234 3 роки тому +5

    Ya'll are a Power Trio, keep doing this...I'm learning/growing so much!

  • @BeverlyMullins-d4w
    @BeverlyMullins-d4w 3 місяці тому +1

    So im struggling with emotional immaturity. I was raised by an emotionally immature mom who is a narcissist. I appreciate what you are doing as todays podcast has helped me see my short comings as a mother.

  • @louiseyoung1231
    @louiseyoung1231 3 роки тому +15

    You have no idea how timely this was...just learning this & trying to handle my dysfunctional family who are not where I am yet 💜. I'm trying to love yet have boundries. Its a challenge 🙏💜😢

  • @zechariah4663
    @zechariah4663 3 роки тому +16

    Once again Lisa thank you so very much. The first paragraph of what you read in the very beginning of this video describes my life with my now 18 year old daughter to a tee. I have written in the comments previously on other videos in this series about being alienated from her by her father my ex-husband who definitely is a narcissist. I never imagined that that sweet baby that I brought home that four-year-old who couldn't live without me that 10 year old who snuggled with me and wrote for a paper in school that I was the best thing in the world would now literally hate me and disrespect me in my own home. Thank you so much for the encouragement because I am doing the hard work I am reflecting I always have asked myself whenever I am in conflict with another person what did I do to cause the conflict, what was my part in all of this. Unfortunately it has not served me well to ask these questions because I have taken on more than was actually my part. I have Twisted myself in a ball and driven myself nearly crazy trying to change myself and be who other people wanted me to be. I have bent over backwards to try to get my daughter to love me. It got to a point where I had to stop and tell her and everyone that was encouraging me to keep reaching out to her that I was not going to beg someone to love me. The person who I gave life to, the person who I shared a heartbeat for nearly a year here I was now running after her and begging her to like me love me respect me - how twisted is that. Thank you for this incredible series, thank you praying my strength and praying for reconciliation between me and my daughter. I will not give up hope that there is still good in her and the wounds of the divorce will no longer be used against her or I. I asked God to give me the same strength, humility and Grace that he did to the father of the prodigal son. I want to welcome my daughter back into my life with love and celebration and not look back at these horrible years of pain and destruction

    • @etamaka
      @etamaka 3 роки тому +4

      I know I might be responding to this a little late but I came across a video just earlier today about the importance of an unhappy adolescence. Something quite striking was that it's considered normal for adolescents who have grown up with loving and stable caregivers to go through this kind of rebellion. There's psychology behind the fact that they can say or do the nastiest stuff because they know they are unconditionally loved. Of course, they don't know or do it consciously but there's some psychology there. It won't be easy and can be very hurtful and uncalled for but if you haven't done anything wrong, this is all just a phase and she might look back on this time during her adult life and sincerely apologize for her crazy behavior during this time. I know both me and my sister definitely had to apologize to my mum for a lot of the grief we put her through and I hope you and your daughter can look back at this one day and laugh about it.
      For your reference, I've attached a link to the video in this comment.
      ua-cam.com/video/zcUI1Hk0GRU/v-deo.html
      It is called "The Importance of an Unhappy Adolescence " by The School of Life

    • @zechariah4663
      @zechariah4663 3 роки тому +3

      @@etamaka
      Incredibly thoughtful of you. I believe some is adolescence and a large part is manipulation by her dad.
      I'm angry at God for letting this happen. I'm taking 1 minute ( literally) at a time. Thank you for extending Grace...

    • @lydiacoronado4257
      @lydiacoronado4257 2 роки тому +2

      You are describing my life now with my only child my adult daughter she's 24 and I feel like she hates me I tried everything to build connection with her to the point of begging .she moved away and I rarely even hear from her.believing and praying for my prodigal to come home one day.trusting and waiting on God.my prayers for you also.Amen🙏💖

    • @zechariah4663
      @zechariah4663 2 роки тому +3

      @@lydiacoronado4257
      I'm so sorry for this. One day at a time friend. Our children will rise up and call us blessed!!

    • @WifeyMamaGrandma
      @WifeyMamaGrandma 2 роки тому +5

      Our son acted like this too from age 17-20. It was horrible. Abusive actually. Emotional and verbal abuse. We made him leave home. I saw your comment about being angry at God. I understand. I’ve felt that way before. I learned we live in a broken and sinful world. We all have choices. God didn’t make it allow this. He also doesn’t reach down and push a big stop button. We all have a free will. Your daughter is choosing to be hateful. It’s shameful of her to treat you that way. Our son had TWO good parents growing up. I was a stay at home Mom, I loved getting to do that. Our son (I’ve realized) has issues. He has moved back home but he’ll still swear at me (rarely now) and I do not deserve it. He called me an F-ing idiot recently. It really sends me sideways when he treats me like that. I’m soft spoken, loving etc. Maybe your daughter takes after her father??? It’s a possibility. Or she knows she can get away with treating you the way she has. You don’t deserve it either. 😢 Don’t chase after her. Pray for her.

  • @et1016
    @et1016 6 місяців тому +5

    Not everyone has unhealed trauma. Human beings are amazingly resilient. We are not all victims.

  • @christineprince6737
    @christineprince6737 Місяць тому

    Thank you guys for doing this podcast I live in an area I don't have access to christian counseling I've been in a super dark place the last year and it's so hard to explain myself to unbelievers they can't understand why I think the way I do Anyway this podcast is my next best option Im fighting for my mental health to come into alignment with God's truth I won't quit because God never quits on ne but it's so hard some days Just want to express gratitude for your ministry.

  • @hannahcarmichael
    @hannahcarmichael Рік тому +1

    Wowza. Those first 3 minutes are POWERFUL. About knocked me over! Sheesh. Good stuff!

  • @kwilcox6816
    @kwilcox6816 3 роки тому +3

    Very important topics and hope for deeper discussions, show notes, and reference material for further study and work personally.

  • @nancygirard7343
    @nancygirard7343 Рік тому +4

    Such a timely podcast for me. Thank you so much. My Christian husband of 37 years was just caught in sex addiction that unbeknownst to me, has been going on for our entire marriage. I am reeling! 😢

  • @margiegonzalez6576
    @margiegonzalez6576 3 місяці тому +1

    Ty,for sharing . Good stuff to start my day.

  • @sharonpinkerton8297
    @sharonpinkerton8297 2 роки тому +2

    I am in amazement.i have been wrestling with this and God bless you for shining this light!

  • @jandl9417
    @jandl9417 10 місяців тому +1

    Agree, Would like to hear from Joel too

  • @becoming_her
    @becoming_her 2 роки тому

    That transcends beautiful.I am so grateful for the wisdom that you have shared with us, honestly.Thank you for being examples of how to do life with Jesus daily,i am honestly blessed.

  • @amyma76
    @amyma76 7 місяців тому +2

    Unhealthy "owning" of failings also happens when someone immediately responds with "I'm so horrible. I'm just a bad person. I'm just no good....". It's another way of not looking soberly at their impact on the other person, and keeping the focus on oneself, even if it's a self-abasing focus.

  • @Lala-ht8ps
    @Lala-ht8ps 2 роки тому +5

    It is so true. You're spiritual mature but maybe not so much emotional mature.

  • @lynndurbin9476
    @lynndurbin9476 2 місяці тому +1

    The Catholic Church opens up to all people who would like to do marriage preparation classes. In other words people of different religions can take the classes. There are groups of older people in long marriages that help younger people with their marriages, church related. Marriage retreats, faith based. If parents encourage their children to attend marriage programs they will benefit the whole family.

  • @jocelynwalters1266
    @jocelynwalters1266 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So rich. Such truth. Practical application for our lives. Thank you!!!

  • @myrathorsen9991
    @myrathorsen9991 2 роки тому +1

    Your session is incredibly awesome timing for my healing journey

  • @DanielleSuzette4444
    @DanielleSuzette4444 Рік тому

    Excellent- thanks all- Lisa-😢

  • @irenechavez3455
    @irenechavez3455 2 роки тому +3

    Very True when people LIE and know TRUTH it is VERY PAINFUL. "MATURITY MATTERS JUST LIKE LIVES MATTER" 🙏❤⚓

  • @singgreekandhebrew
    @singgreekandhebrew 3 місяці тому +1

    So good ! Thank you

  • @christian1172-z9e
    @christian1172-z9e 3 місяці тому

    I know we are responsible for our reactions. What do you do if you have been praying, reading, and doing all the things to improve yourself, but you are still reacting?
    And the more I seek to understand his perspective, the angrier I get. The more hopeless i feel.
    I’ve finally chosen to just distance myself emotionally so I won’t get hurt or react, and now he says I’m destroying our marriage by distancing myself.

  • @Thankful305
    @Thankful305 3 роки тому +9

    I just love you guys!!
    Jim has so many incredibly, wonderful, condensed phrases, that say and mean so much.
    I definitely need to re-listen and take notes {~!~}

    • @OfficialProverbs31Ministries
      @OfficialProverbs31Ministries  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for watching, friend! If you would like access to a transcript for easier note-taking, that can be found here: proverbs31.org/listen/podcast/full-podcast/2021/04/20/therapy-theology-the-signs-symptoms-and-cures-of-emotional-immaturity

  • @shelbybrown2893
    @shelbybrown2893 3 роки тому +2

    I love this channel, wish Joel and Jim got to speak a little more

  • @sherinolt2765
    @sherinolt2765 2 роки тому +1

    So GOOD!! Thank you for all the wisdom and advice!

  • @angelicakissinger319
    @angelicakissinger319 3 роки тому +1

    So thankful for this eye opening session of truth ! God Bless you all 🙏🏻

  • @hsiriaec3306
    @hsiriaec3306 3 роки тому +2

    So so good! Thank you for sharing your heart and wisdom on this!

  • @shannonjones7890
    @shannonjones7890 Рік тому

    Jim's list, so so good!

  • @pz1042
    @pz1042 Рік тому

    I felt that it's 'iron sharpening iron'. Is it ever one person's problem or issues but rather, refining on both parts, hence, both being self aware in responses
    Too much pressure & stress can lead to a seeming outburst too. A lot of pressures & stresses around now and people not coping.

  • @anagentil1521
    @anagentil1521 2 роки тому +3

    I needed this today. Thank you so much ❤️

  • @jayyfog5909
    @jayyfog5909 Рік тому

    Praise he Lord ❤

  • @MrTringuy
    @MrTringuy 3 роки тому +1

    This "connection " is so rich ..Be blessed ... but it's still a fight with the narcissist..the controller jezebel..

  • @jeanninecausey
    @jeanninecausey 7 місяців тому +1

    Excellent!

  • @ruthmangalwadi
    @ruthmangalwadi Рік тому +1

    Thank you 3 … so true what you are sharing. I was greatly helped by THE EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY CHURCH …and The Strong and the Weak by Paul Tournier

  • @lanaroberts2937
    @lanaroberts2937 Рік тому

    Excellent podcast. Thank you!

  • @unicemarquez9850
    @unicemarquez9850 4 місяці тому

    Wow thank you so so much ❤😮

  • @ThePossumone
    @ThePossumone 2 роки тому

    Guys this is fabulous absolutely INCREDIBLE THANK YOU

  • @iw9338
    @iw9338 Рік тому

    Excellent thanks very much 🙏💜 I'm working on not keeping score, as the 10th kid, God help to walk in His peace

  • @carolking7162
    @carolking7162 2 роки тому

    Excellent info and I’m glad to have been directed here by spirit. Thank you for sharing! Would love to hear the other two members speak more.

  • @lupiesalazar8492
    @lupiesalazar8492 Рік тому

    Great discussion! When it comes to the reading and expounding of God’s Word, I think the gentleman should be the ones to read it and expound on it.

  • @farrisbetrosjr4861
    @farrisbetrosjr4861 2 роки тому

    Love this glad it showed up in my video feed.

  • @mel3256
    @mel3256 3 роки тому +9

    This topic is very important. There is too many big topics skimmed over in this segment. It would be more helpful if a number of the items were discussed in their own segments

  • @donnamartin9198
    @donnamartin9198 4 місяці тому

    That was great!

  • @kyleneanderson6250
    @kyleneanderson6250 2 роки тому

    So grateful for every video you all share!!! It is really needed and soooo helpful to me and my daughters, friends and the men in our lives. (When they choose to listen 😉) and if they don’t I believe that through my life I will be showing them Gods love and His ways. Even when I mess up/sin…it’s another opportunity to put my pride aside and confess, ask for forgiveness , encourage our adults kids and our grandkids in the ways of the Lord!!! It would be a very sad day if your videos went away….
    May God continue to bless each of you and your families 🥰

  • @henriettehofsink8003
    @henriettehofsink8003 Рік тому

    Instead of saying don't make excuses for your sin I would say what is happening for me to react ? How can I make healthier choices? Who can I trust to open my heart up to to love me and walk with me? How can i trust God to work in me

  • @g.siporin4000
    @g.siporin4000 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent. Thanks

  • @debrat777
    @debrat777 3 роки тому +2

    Great content. Thank you.

  • @sharonscheller8342
    @sharonscheller8342 2 роки тому

    This is an amazingly helpful teaching. Thank you for your ministry👏💕💕

  • @PCbythebeach
    @PCbythebeach Місяць тому

    This was great, thank you.
    Curious tho why you had Joel on if you rarely addressed him.

  • @raquelchavez5876
    @raquelchavez5876 2 роки тому

    I have learned so much just in this video Thank you so much 🙏

  • @CyndiGarguilo
    @CyndiGarguilo 2 роки тому

    Wowww! I needed this!

  • @henriettehofsink8003
    @henriettehofsink8003 Рік тому +1

    "Don't make excuses for your reaction"
    Rephrase " why did I react? What is happening. How can you help me? I want to learn from this"

  • @beautygracewomensministry7903
    @beautygracewomensministry7903 2 роки тому

    Wow! That was so good.

  • @EmpoweredLivingwithLori
    @EmpoweredLivingwithLori 3 роки тому +1

    A list would be awesome
    I'd love to be able to discuss with my kids one point at a time.

  • @Switzer1234
    @Switzer1234 2 роки тому

    These sessions are amazing and very helpful! TY all so much!
    Jim: Please slow down when you talk. You don't break between sentences and you talk too fast, making everything run together and sound garbled. TY!

    • @OfficialProverbs31Ministries
      @OfficialProverbs31Ministries  2 роки тому

      Hi, friend! We offer free transcripts for Therapy & Theology episodes. Check out the podcast feed here to access all the content and follow along: therapyandtheology.transistor.fm/

  • @sharonnugent408
    @sharonnugent408 Рік тому

    When I recall scripture because of my emotions, the scripture changes my thoughts and emotions.
    I'm aware others may not understand that so I don't state scripture in response to others emotions because they see it as criticism

  • @stacywallace5210
    @stacywallace5210 Рік тому +1

    Also: why do you change clothing? Sometimes it is soiled. So much symbolism here with putting on anew daily (sometimes more frequently than daily if clothing gets dirty during the day).

  • @emiliecarr1
    @emiliecarr1 Рік тому

    I have to know - Lysa, where are these chairs from? What brand?They are adorable!
    Love you and your ministry so much. Beyond words what comfort you have brought into my life through this podcast, your books, etc.

  • @elizabethparsons3001
    @elizabethparsons3001 3 роки тому +3

    What if you have things you need to apologize for and at the same time you need to tell the person some specific things they did that have hurt you very much? Is that like saying "but" or can you do both? When is it okay to express the offense/hurt that contributed to the problem between you and the other person?

    • @Padmeandkitty
      @Padmeandkitty 2 роки тому

      1st pray about it. I would say go humbly and sincerely apologize without pulling their offense to you into the conversation. Then if guided by the Holy Spirit, let them know you were hurt by what they did. Don't expect an apology at that time. They may or they may have to process what you told them. It may be better to address in 2 separate conversations but you'll have to pray for guidance about that.

  • @ramonaramo1876
    @ramonaramo1876 2 роки тому +3

    What an eye opening this teaching is! Thank you so much. My husband and I are going through hard times because the lack of proper conversation. I have to choose the way I speak or respond to him as he is very touchy and he gets easily offended.. I find this very childish and immature and therefore the communication is limited and very plain. If he wants to talk, we can have a lovely conversation but it's only based on his mood.. Usually ends up with sarcasm or bitterness towards me...
    I fell I'm suffocating and have no say most of the time. We are both born again Christians, I have my thoughts on this behaviour and been praying a lot over the 5 years we've been together. Is it biblical to separate from him for a while, while I get healed and he receives counseling?

    • @Jessica-yx5wu
      @Jessica-yx5wu 2 роки тому +1

      With all respect, he sounds like a covert narcissist/Cluster B personality disordered person. They are very confusing as they are so covert in hiding their personality disorder and mal intentions, going from grandiosity to vulnerability in a continuous cycle. 99.99% of them never get better and sometimes they learn how to better hide it in therapy while they continue to make you feel miserable. They are in my opinion, wolves in sheep's clothing and workers of iniquity. Please look into it. All psychotherapists say basically to leave and get space, gray rock or no contact. There are some channels that give Biblical responses also which allow for divorce or the eventuality of divorce because of the emotional, mental, spiritual abuse and lack of meeting the victim spouse's needs. I am also born again. Prayed for you.

    • @ramonaramo1876
      @ramonaramo1876 2 роки тому

      @@Jessica-yx5wu thanks so much for your reply. I am looking into it now. God bless🙏💕🙏

    • @danilaroche1156
      @danilaroche1156 2 роки тому +1

      Separation is biblical. Reconciliation in the Bible is encouraged. Your husband has issues probably going back to childhood unworthiness and rejection. He needs healing. Before and if you separate why not get away for a few days to pray and reflect? May the Lord continue to be your supply and hope.

    • @ramonaramo1876
      @ramonaramo1876 2 роки тому

      @@danilaroche1156 thank you♥️I already done this since I last wrote the comment. Your advice is very encouraging, and confirms I am on the right track. Thanks a lot.

    • @danilaroche1156
      @danilaroche1156 2 роки тому

      @@ramonaramo1876 You are welcome. If u feel you are suffocating, that's a warning. Husbands are called to love their wives like Christ loved the church. If he truly knows and serves Christ...there's hope. I'd like to talk to you about this. The enemy wants nothing more than a divorce. Be wise, discerning and proactive. Immerse yourself in the things of God. He is your rock.

  • @gkarenstratton
    @gkarenstratton 8 місяців тому +1

    Barefooted for me is like being a country child again
    💙🤍💙🤍💙🤍💙🤍💙🤍💙🤍💙

  • @inlov33
    @inlov33 8 місяців тому

    Let's talk about 'playfullness'
    It's another costume, and there is a line between too much in either direction....
    Balance of sorts, in respect to playfulness of spirit...
    Let's have a talk about this important topic. TY

  • @innerchildcrafty34
    @innerchildcrafty34 3 роки тому +2

    Wow! I needed this so much today! Watching from Texas. God bless you all. 💜💜💜🌷🌷🌷

  • @marciaking5864
    @marciaking5864 3 місяці тому

    I’m wondering if HBOT will help with Trigeminal Dolorosa and Trigeminal Neuralgia? I’ve done 27 dives for Stroke recovery.

  • @renearosser1466
    @renearosser1466 3 місяці тому

    I hear the word but said a lot in these conversations

  • @angelasturn
    @angelasturn 3 роки тому +1

    Wow addiction is worth- ship and blame is pain, blaming is shame

  • @desormais22
    @desormais22 Місяць тому

    Just some light humor since most comments are so serious - the part of the video where they’re discussing wearing appropriate clothes for the seasons you’re in (which was so good too), recalled learning that Germans like to say that there’s no bad weather, just not wearing the right clothes. Lol I think that’s what they say…

  • @Blue77Blue
    @Blue77Blue Рік тому

    It’s timely

  • @kalen9395
    @kalen9395 3 роки тому

    Do you guys have a good video on self centered/selfish spouse issues? I really enjoyed the one you guys did here and on narcissism from the Therapy and Theology series, however, I’m curious of your thoughts around the topic of selfishness or self-centeredness in a marriage - as the suffering spouse and the spouse acting as such.

  • @100americanmade
    @100americanmade 2 роки тому

    Is there a video or cd class on this?

  • @marymorse7467
    @marymorse7467 2 роки тому

    I live in Waco Texas. It has been such a challenge to find a Good Christian Counseling. Can you help me?

  • @MrTringuy
    @MrTringuy 3 роки тому +2

    Moses was told to Ground...take your shoes off it's holy ground

  • @lindsey_j
    @lindsey_j 2 роки тому +1

    This was very, very helpful.
    One small critique, it felt like the connection Lysa and her counselor Jim have was very obvious, and Joel felt like he was pushed to the side a bit. I would have LOVED to hear him talk more. Lysa has great insight, no doubt. But she also does the majority of the talking. Overall, good stuff here I'll definitely revisit

    • @Jessica-yx5wu
      @Jessica-yx5wu 2 роки тому +1

      I also loved this episode and many others. I noticed the same thing - that Joel was cut out a bit from participating at the same level as Jim and Lysa. Would have loved to at least hear him present the scripture and even add a little more depth about the Greek for the language used for our new clothing. Their emails are also really supportive!

    • @mybigfatexpatlife6865
      @mybigfatexpatlife6865 Рік тому

      Even if Joel doesn't say much, when he does speak, I learn a lot from God's word.