How are Aluminum Extrusions Made?
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2024
- Aluminum Extrusion is a manufacturing process that forces aluminum alloy through a die with a predetermined cross-sectional profile. The aluminum is pushed through the die with a powerful ram. When it comes out, it takes the shape of the die. In today's video, you would understand what is aluminum extrusion and how are aluminum extrusions made?
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I hate it when a youtube channel uses sithesized voice of a text to speech program and pretends we don't know it
Me too! And It results in me leaving
This is actually a well made video with lots of information, perhaps whoever made it has a thick accent and they thought this would help people understand it better,
This is actually a well made video with lots of information, perhaps whoever made it has a thick accent and they thought this would help people understand it better,
Here's the deal:
Loose the robo-voice, and then I'll subscribe.
@@drweelz Yup people used to trash people with heavy Indian accents on tutorials all the time. Odd behavior.
1:45 If you're going to make videos by feeding text into a speech engine, you need to type out "degrees celsius" 🤣
Clearly it's 500 zerosea
Yes, similar errors occur several times. It was all I could do to put up with the digitized narration.
Really, how much would it cost to have some real human being read a few minutes' of script? I despise the ever-encroaching tide of robo-speech everywhere we look (or hear) now. Heck, I'd read your script for you for free, just to avoid hearing "five hundred zero sea"...
@@icenijohn2 Or "street Louis" (not in this video).
This voice has all the energy and charisma of that 90s educational video on turning spheres inside out.
Robovoices suck; I _never_ subscribe to a channel without human narration.
You didn’t answer the biggest mystery that most people wonder about. How do you get holes from an extrusion process?
They use multiple dies from what I know.
Core bars
The extrusion die is made of two pieces. The front part forms the external surface, then there is a mandrel that forms "the hollow part" behind the die. This mandrel is held to the front part by a "spider" with four arms. What intrigues most of the people is that, during extrusion, the billet metal is "cut" by the "spider arms" , but because of the temperature, pressure and the fact that the die chamber is sealed against oxygen, the metal welds back forming a hollow profile. This is suitable for architectural profiles, but for aeronautic purposes or high strenght alloys, for instance, seamless extrusion is applied.
@@glauroo.junior83 wow thanks!
@@glauroo.junior83 why couldn’t you have made this video. You would have done a great job.
Nice presentation. If I can make a remark (I worked as a metallurgist in extrusion plants for 23 years), in the minute 3:05 they mentioned extrusion forces over 15,000 tons. A press capable of this force is a monster; the largest press I've ever seen was a 10,000 ton extrusion force, whose billet was 40 inches (1 meter)
diameter. Usual press sizes for day to day production range from 1400 to 2500 tons.
And, pressure is not measured in tonnes.
How are they able to "spray" an 0 with support material holding the center of the 0?
@@alexwood5425 In the US they are confused because they still use garbage inch, pound, galon....
@@Eduardo_Espinoza look at 1:23. The holes in the dies are not cylindrical. So basically the aluminium flows around the core trough holes and gets compressed into the final shape only at the outlet.
@@MarcoTedaldi so there is support material at the entrance of the material and up to a point but not all the way to the exit, the aluminum is soft enough and fill in the supports once it passes?
Nice, I always had that doubt 😅
Finally! A nicely done video that actually describes and shows detail, and there was no stupid music edited into the video. Thank you
At 4:55 it should state "temper" not temperature. T5 and T6 are the most common tempers for aluminum, although that is debate able and alloy dependent.
I worked as a millwright in the end 80s, early 90s. Helped install machinery in a working extrusion plant. it was very interesting to see the process.
Good to know you like this video!
so now not only do we have voice work done by computer, but we have algorithms *writing* the words, too.
i feel your pain. i also can't stand when there's a microphone on the camera yet no one talks.
Muito interessante esse processo
Valeu muito obrigado!
This is the best presentation i was looking for
we here over in the old world use the same process for aluminium , works fine !
Brilliant presentation. Answered most the questions I had about Aluminium Extrusions. 👍
Extremely educational!
I enjoyed very much!
how does it work for hollow profiles ?
Some 45 y/ago I worked a summer job in such a factory. Good memories.
Cool video shot, thanks for sharing it, keep it up :)
Great video
Hollow shape extrusion 0:55 - 0:58, 1:07 left - the both dies, 1:09 the both dies, others up to 1:27 are only first inner dies. We look at them from the exit of aluminium details.
It would be great to see the die and corresponding resulting aluminium shape side by side.
As I understand, the idea is to have a support for the central part in the first die and this part is as long as the second further final die. So, inner shape of aluminium is made by the first long die and the outer shape is made by the second short die; the both dies end approximately at the same cross-section.
Ahhh!!!! So the Aluminum "re-combines" after passing the support arms of the internal shapes! Thank you SO MUCH for helping explain that. ❤️ I've been using extrusion for engineering design for years, and it always bothered the hell out of me not knowing how they managed that without having parts of the die floating in mid air!!
Nice! But how are hollow profiles made? How are the cores of the die fastened? Do they remain in the core of the product and were removed after the extrusion?
They're pressed through, just like in the video.
@@AdelaeR That still doesn't explain how the cores are fastened, if that happens at all. For very small "holes" in the profile cross section, like shown at 5:33, you would either need very thin and very long steel bars to fit into these holes while extruding (and afterwards, they would need to be removed, which is what @christiankrippenstapel4336 had asked: how do they get removed?), *or* the aluminum needs to flow around a construction in the die, in which case the aluminum would need to weld itself together again, right after the extrusion. So, how is it done?
@@Nonononono_Ohno When the aluminum is hot enough and the pressure is high enough, it just flows together again.
@@AdelaeR I see, thank you!
As a commercial Glazier I now understand completely how the products that I install are produced.
I appreciate the video. However, the narrator stated "15,000 pounds of pressure," which is incorrect. It is force, not pressure.
Thanks for pointing out. I will confirm it with our engineers.
4:00, Certain types of Aluminum alloy such as the 6000 variants, Do not use water quenching for the process. Certain types of aluminum alloy are rich in magnesium and other metals that are actually very vulnerable to water, Causing marking and a unqiue type of corrosion that dull the metal. Processes without water use air cooling through the puller/strecher process. This drops the metal down to 120-90oF where it can be saftley handled for racking to be placed into furnaces. T5-T6 require a cook time of six and a half hours where T52 require only two and a half. T4 is a special type of aluminum extrusion where it does not require and heat treatment at all.
Thank you.
More interesting than I expected. Now I understand how CPU boxed coolers are produced.
Cool work , cool material😊
i was a die maker at tifton aluminum back in the late 90s, milling the dies with a bridgeport. i didnt mill the bolsters or backers tho. also operated the old charmies edm`s...
Nice video, thank you
Pressure usually measured as PSI or KSM (pounds per square inch or kilograms per square meter)
My guess - aluminum extrusions are made by extruding aluminum.
Very, very good video!
I am searching for aluminium forging videos.
Pls share the link.
I'd love to see one of these extruded aluminum engine blocks mentioned around 6:00.
All I wanted to know is how you extrude a tube, how do you hold a die piece in the center and have it remain enclosed
Capabilities demonstration? What are the limitations on diameter and extrusions legnth?
It would be nice if people in charge of editing the voice over to a technical or scientific video started to appreciate the difference between force and pressure. Saying 15,000 ton PRESSURE is very much wrong. How are kids and the general public supposed to learn from such badly written material? Force is force, pressure is FORCE PER UNIT AREA - a very different thing. Please stop it.
Press is typically rated by tons it can push in linear direction. Technically, you should use kN (kilonewton) instead but that's rarely done in practice. However, you are absolutely sure that the pressure during the extrusion depends on the surface that force is applied.
@@MikkoRantalainen Well, I know they should use the N SI unit, if they really wanted to speak by the book. However, tons does not bother me at all, but for the fact that there are short, metric and long tons, which can be confusing. A kN, that's about 0.098 metric tons (or about a couple of hundredweight) which may still be adequate to express the force of a press.They all are force units, though a bit of a mess, but still all of them force units.
Anyway.
But these people speak of a FORCE (N, ton, kN, have your pick) as if it were a PRESSURE (Pa, bars, PSI, and what else). Force, alleged to be the same thing as a pressure. My dear God.
I think they need to go back to their birthplace, be born over again, attend school at least up to the ninth grade, and be tought their Physics over again
I liked this video a lot, how the heck do you make an engine block with this method though? They’re too asymmetrical aren’t they?
Nice, but please consider using a live voice rather than computer synthesized.
Thanks for your suggestions.
Подробнее бы увидеть, как формируется профиль в закрытой, внутренней поверхности
@@SomeRandomPerson163 не обязательно так, но смысл конечно одинаков. там где сплав ещё жидкий осуществляется поддержка детали, которая формирует полость.
Они пытались показать. 0:55-0:58. Можно заметить на деталях до 1:27. Формы состоят из 2 частей. Первая поддерживает внутреннюю фильеры, а вторая затем закрывает всю внешнюю часть круга, за исключением пары миллиметров вокруг этой выступающей внутренней части. Давление снова смыкает части алюминиевой пасты после обтекания поддерживающей части и выдавливает через кольцо. Как воздух в ниппеле велосипедной покрышки.
@@alextsitovich9800
В живую бы это всё понаблюдать,так оно понятнее будет
@@Mahorokun В живую, наверное, техника безопасности не позволит. Да и результат сразу в готовом виде выходит. Течение, разрезание и смыкание, выдавливание будет видно только на моделях.
Например, в такой модели как мясорубка для лепки пельменей или соковыжималка. Винт находится посередине, но если поставить насадку, то жмых пойдет без дырки посередине, а в пельменях фарш посередине будет, но след слепливания окружающего теста будет почти незаметен.
@@alextsitovich9800
Хотя бы фильеры в руках повертеть,так оно нагляднее
How are hollow extrusions made?
So the solid metal becomes a fluid. Pretty crazy.
What about aluminum heatsinks ? For transistors , GPUs , CPU's ? Same technique ?
Always the same as long as it is in form of cut profile, and most of heat sinks are like that.
@@kamilblk Check the heat sinks on PathosAcustics amplifiers.
@@tomasglavina9952 they look great. Still the same method of production
Basic heatsinks, yes. High quality CPU coolers use copper heatpipes which are totally different animal.
@@tomasglavina9952 Pathos Acoustics as 2 words got more results.
Good video but the narration leaves a little to be desired with some of the translations, ie 500 zero c should read 550 degrees c
Extruded aluminum engine blocks (6:09)? I want to hear more about that.
Holly Molly!
"Actually like pasta" would basically have been enough as info.
Pathosacustics amplifiers heat sinks are still some of the craziest extrusions.
I know how to operate this machine.
I am machine operator in taiwan like this 5years ago
Yeah I'd like one of those extruded automotive engine blocks please.
In fact, the aluminum tubes used to package medicines, ointments and toothpaste are also made by extrusion. 0:40
Thanks for adding the additional information.
I was hoping you would explain how hollow extrusions are made. That seems impossible!
The die is a 3D object so it can have pathways connecting the hollow center to the sides - only the exit hole matters for the final extruded shape. Aluminium will flow around the support structures with enough pressure.
multi step process with pieces of finite length. sort of forcing heated material over a mandrel, then thru a die for the outer surface shape
Tons are measures of force, not pressure.
I was with ya' until you said that the die needs to be heated to between 450 and 500 zero c. What do you think that means?
Between 450 and 500 °C, they didn’t know how to put the degrees symbol
@@1xeshm I'm talking about the narration. I let the symbol go, because at least its intent is recognizable. Clearly, the narrator didn't understand the subject matter.
How does YT allow these videos? I have seen most of this 20 years ago as a "How It's Made" video. You can tell from the resolution that it is old video. The AI is reading the subtitles or a transcription of the stolen video with random stuff added.
I feel like some guy is going to flick the lights on at the end of this and take us on a tour of the Shop floor.
lots of things use aluminum, I never thought about it. Even my Bike.
I've always wondered what an extrusion die that produces a closed interior space, i.e. tubing or hollow rectangular stock, looks like. I was disappointed this video didn't show me.
It did. You just haven't noticed. 0:55-0:58. Up to 1:27
Just need to teach the ai voiceover how to say “degrees” instead of “500 zero C “. And while I don’t love ai voiceover, this one is pretty decent. And I appreciate the quality of the info.
Thank you for bringing that to our attention. We will take note of it.
also 3:02 "the hydraulic press applies over 15,000 tons of pressure" -- tons is a measure of force, not of pressure
So...basically...take this job... & ... SHOVE it.
Can this work with people?
That's how they make Soylent Green.
This is shocking information that breaks the prejudice that metal is not easily deformed.
We would simplify this video by saying "Its a playdough set just alot bigger and alot hotter."
A cylindrical block?
3:08 god I wish that were me
Short: like pasta, pressed through a specific formed die
Aaron Belisle teaches manufacturing?
The design is very human.
Didn't answer my main question - how can a die produce enclosed hollows?
An aluminum extrusion is made by extruding GET THIS... ALUMINUM. WOOOOW.
Там сути на 1 минуты а этот растянул на 6. Блогеры, из ничего делают новость!
Mute the volume...unless you have a room tempreture IQ..
They are squeezed thru a die and extruded-just like canned cheese spread! One of my friends that I help restore Pre-WWI motorcycles with worked his entire working life doing this very thing-making aluminum extrusions they made aluminum storm doors and replacement windows from, rat cheer in Tussa, Okra-Homer. Another friend worked at Spirt AeroSystems making aircraft extrusions-he got paid quite a bit more!!! He didn't do only aluminum!
How the hell do they make these extrusions hollow inside?!? The die would have to have bits floating in mid air 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
I still don’t understand how they make extrusions with multiple holes in them thats not in the center. The die would have to have the negative of said hole suspended with no supports. If there were supports it couldn’t make the holes lol 🤯
Robot voice!
Does anyone need aluminum profile mold and aluminum profile products? We can accept customization.
Your voice synth has a few problems. It has trouble with temperature. 🙄 🖖
I want to get trained on every metalshop machine out there! 😁 Hire and teach me
but I don't want to be put through the aluminum extrusion process :(
I think you'd be very impressed!
I CANT NOT GET OUT OF WATER BEING PUT ON THE ALIMINUM NOW
why cant we get water frei alunimium
Seems like a Chat GPT video.
A L U M I N I U M
Poor Robot Voice. Inferior text-to-speech conversion.
Engine blocks? I don't think so.....
I believe aluminum extrusions are made by extruding aluminum. I could be mistaken.
why extruded aluminum heat sinks are so expensive? If the process is so simple, then heat sinks should not cost so much.
Crazy profit margins because people will pay for them anyway
Yeah, you only need precision machined die and 15000 ton press. If you want accurate dimensions for the extruded material, you need to keep replacing the die pretty often and those may cost 30000-50000 USD per part.
Zero C!!!
hold on a second, you're going to put ME through the process? - I'm out.
Basically like plastic extrusion but not entirely..
alOOminum
Nothing about how Aluminum extrusions are made.
I'll save you all the time they push it though a hole that's it process done.
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The metal is called "aluminium", not "aluminum"
The name ends with "ium", like many elements
That isn't aluminum at 5:13. Kinda makes me wonder what other parts of the video are just plain false.
Couldn't someone have pointed out to the narrator that it is degrees C not zero C ?
robot text to speech - not human
Congratulations - despite good information, you managed to make an interesting process boring to watch
Good to know that you like the video content, we'll try to make our video more interesting.
Aluminium*
The mistakes in the narration are pretty Chinglish kinds of mistakes. Obviously there is nobody from the west actually being paid to edit or review this "Made for the West" video. Degrees is not the same as zeros. In addition a few technical terms were utterly skipped which were important and should have been included. I keep seeing videos like this where the Chinese are throwing resources, money, and people at things and consuming all of those things, and yet have not the first understanding of how any of it works or why it works. Emulation is flattery to us, but emulation is not the same as knowledge or brilliance.
its aluminium..