Better 3D Printer? Creality SE vs Creality KE

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  • @kschaffer6978
    @kschaffer6978 10 місяців тому +48

    Nice comparison between them. Makes it easier for most newbies to understand and then decide what their budget allows them to spend. Keep it simple and to the point.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! That's exactly what I was going for. I've had to answer this question in comments and in our live show a thousand times!

  • @QuietMikeW
    @QuietMikeW 10 місяців тому +26

    love my SE, didn't need any network stuff or runout sensor. added a pei sheet immediately, changed the hotend fan to a 4020, runs fantastic, price is amazing saw it on sale not too long ago for $170

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +3

      Great price! Thanks for sharing!

    • @dixienormus8
      @dixienormus8 2 місяці тому +3

      just got my KE refurbished from creality official with a 2 year warranty from ebay for $186 including taxes and shipping

    • @krispy5139
      @krispy5139 Місяць тому +1

      Why so you need to add a pei sheet and 4020 hotend fan?

  • @Cogster
    @Cogster 2 місяці тому +16

    I have an SE. there are a variety of upgrades you can do, such as double Z axis, linear rails for X an Y, rolling spool holder and filament sensor, pad upgrade, and more. One thing you want to make sure to do is LOWER ACCELERATION in the control menu, it greatly improves print quality. You can also adjust max speed, its not permanently capped.
    The KE is nice, but you can get all the upgrades to make it a KE. In my opinion, the SE is better as you can add features that it doesn't have but also ignore ones that you don't need. You can always sell your old parts on ebay if you do decide to replace something.
    Edit: now after looking at prices, if you want the full experience, you should prolly go with a KE. I'm selling my SE to buy a KE instead.

    • @JJLCFC
      @JJLCFC 22 дні тому

      Any thoughts on if it's possible or worthwhile to upgrade the dial control to the touch screen console?

    • @Cogster
      @Cogster 21 день тому +2

      @@JJLCFC nah just buy a KE at that point

    • @josephberg2329
      @josephberg2329 7 годин тому

      The SE allready has dual Z axis and dual bed rails. What are you talking about? I think your confused with the old Ender 3 v2 that only has one z axis lead screw and the bed has a single rail system.

  • @LehtusBphree2flyFPV
    @LehtusBphree2flyFPV 10 місяців тому +26

    I bought the SE then saw a video about the KE and needed a comparison and this did it so I'm just keeping the SE and dealing with what I got. Thank you so much this is what I needed.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +3

      I really like the SE, the print results are great! And thank you!

  • @russdesigns
    @russdesigns 10 місяців тому +15

    Nice camera switch between camera A and B! Loving the studio upgrades.

  • @alannguyen5050
    @alannguyen5050 10 місяців тому +9

    The V3KE is almost the best high speed bed slinger imo. I had one before my K1C and it was fantastic, the linear rod on the X axis is so much better than the linear rods most companies like to use now, and of course better than V rollers. Print quality is great, noise levels are low, and you can root the machine + add input shaper for increased print quality.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +1

      It's a great machine.

  • @LaloLPGMER
    @LaloLPGMER 9 місяців тому +15

    Very informative, i just bought the SE and everything works phenomenal 😊

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  9 місяців тому

      Awesome!!

    • @confetti599
      @confetti599 3 місяці тому

      hii i hope you see this, would you still recommend buying it 4 months later? i’d love to know any pros or cons if you had any

    • @ditchwizard
      @ditchwizard 3 місяці тому

      Looking into an SE, how are you liking it after a couple of months of use?

    • @LaloLPGMER
      @LaloLPGMER 3 місяці тому +1

      @ditchwizard awesome! I even bought a second one lol I've been making props for cos players here where I live and honestly about to buy a third one possibly by November because the two I have are always occupied

    • @ditchwizard
      @ditchwizard 3 місяці тому

      @@LaloLPGMER I really do appreciate the response, Thank you!

  • @TinTalon
    @TinTalon 10 місяців тому +4

    I really wanted to see this comparison. Thank you

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely! Thank you for watching. A LOT of people had asked for this, these are such popular options.

  • @micver1091
    @micver1091 9 місяців тому +3

    The se you can connect Thru the usb c. Cable.
    And print directly from cura

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  9 місяців тому +1

      Yes, most printers can connect directly via USB.

  • @DavidPalazzolo-pe2dy
    @DavidPalazzolo-pe2dy 7 місяців тому +6

    I own Creality Ender 3 KE printers, I actually like it so much I now own 5 of them. Just a couple simple things to know if you do purchase one of these.
    1. Make sure the Voltage is set correctly for the power supply. All of mine came set to 230v and they need to be in the 115v position. If it is in the wrong position, it will continuously restart.
    2. Make sure your pully screws are tight. The 2 main ones you have to concern yourself with is the one on the right side of the gantry and the one towards the rear under the build plate. Use the supplied allen wrenches to to make sure those are good and tight before calibrating.
    3. Use gloves when touching the build plate. The oil from your fingers absolutely will prevent your filament from adhering to the plate.
    Tip: One thing I do before I start printing is to take a little of that thermal grease supplied, and lightly coat the tip of your nozzle with it. (Do not clump it on there.) This will help prevent filament from sticking to the nozzle tip and allow for a cleaner extrusion. This will also drastically extend the life of your nozzle. (This tip is just something I do with all of mine and may not be helpful for you.)
    Other than that, this has been a great printer and I have made some fantastic builds with it. Check the Creality Website for sales, and they arrive in about 3 days or so after ordering. I found them for $239 for the KE and $179 for the SE directly from Creality. Good Luck and enjoy!

  • @silentshadow867
    @silentshadow867 10 місяців тому +8

    I do not own a 3D printer, but have been considering buying one. I was able to easily identify the KE from the SE due to the filament detection sensor.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +1

      I hope you get one soon!

  • @Heptofite
    @Heptofite 9 місяців тому +2

    the SE runs a sprite extruder, but it uses a weird spider v2 style heatblock and nozzles.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  9 місяців тому

      A lot of proprietary parts now.

    • @Heptofite
      @Heptofite 9 місяців тому

      way too many proprietary parts when you consider that it's not even a performance gain to have that strangely sized nozzle.

  • @sandydarkfall
    @sandydarkfall 10 місяців тому +3

    I have been looking at a few reviews on these machines now since I am interested in getting a 3D printer to make some models that I create in Blender! What I can tell so far the differences are not that big but I was worried about the SE only having the SD card since I honestly have no idea how you are supposed to be able to transfer files to the machine from one of those cards.
    I also wondered since I am new to these printers and have no experience with them. What is really recommended, is it just what is prefered for one self and can the printers work from any room? Do they have to be in a workshop or does a regular room with a flat surface work fine?
    Would appreciate any tips or advice on the matter! Thanks for a great video ♥

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +1

      SD cards are the normal route, they can be connected to any Mac or PC. If your computer doesn’t have an SD cars slot, there are inexpensive accessories for your PC that allow you to connect it. Less than a few dollars.
      All of the printers I show, you can absolutely run them in your home on any flat surface.

    • @sandydarkfall
      @sandydarkfall 10 місяців тому +1

      Alright! Thank you so much for getting back to me, I will have a look for sure!@@LoyalMoses

  • @duncanstreet4955
    @duncanstreet4955 10 місяців тому +1

    Really throwing me this 3d printing world! Started looking at where to go - being a complete newby, was looking at Bambu P1S,but now the KE has my attention. Never had any experience before and want something that works and can produce good results - will probably use to make tools and accessories for woodworking / laser projects -just don’t know if I can justify the extra cost of the Bambu!

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +1

      It really depends on your budget and purpose. The Bambu will give you the best experience that exists in 3D printing, while these machines are solid budget / tinkering options.

    • @duncanstreet4955
      @duncanstreet4955 10 місяців тому

      @@LoyalMosesthanks for the advice - love the channel and content - I’ll let you know which way I go when I make the plunge! Keep the content coming!

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely! I would love to know which one you chose. Also, come join us in our discord! We have an amazing community that is super helpful! loyal.ms/discord

  • @maxpruss-m5q
    @maxpruss-m5q 10 місяців тому +5

    I was thinking about getting a new v3. this helped a lot.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      Awesome!

    • @3DandTeePrinting
      @3DandTeePrinting 10 місяців тому

      V3 Core XZ is a COMPLETELY different machine

    • @bl4de938
      @bl4de938 9 місяців тому

      Between SE, KE and just V3. The worst one is V3, to expensive and has to many issues. The best one is KE, it's in the middle with it's price but really works the best.

    • @3DandTeePrinting
      @3DandTeePrinting 9 місяців тому

      @bl4de938 after print testing the V3, KE, SE, and CR10SE(WILD CARD) in PLA, PETG, TPU, ABS/ASA. I am not going to dispute your claim the KE is the best of the 4. But I would have to say from worse to best the V3 is still better then the SE and CR10SE.
      CR10SE - it's just an Ender 3 S1 with today's best mods installed out the box.
      SE - Gantry and y rods are not very Stable. Slow Comapred to other new gen printers. I modded the crap out of mine to even compete with the other 3. New Rails on Y and X, flowtech nozzle, Pei sheet, gantry stabilizers, anti vibration feet, filament runout, spool holder relocation and KLIPPER.
      V3 - Overpriced But Fast (302 hours in NO Issues (yet))
      KE - Gantry and y Rods Unstable but best bang for your buck. Speed, Linear Rail (on X only), Klipper, Price, Hotend and Parts availability.

  • @GoodScienceForYou
    @GoodScienceForYou 10 місяців тому +2

    I have the cheaper model. I noticed the hanging filament on the face of the KE. It is an "overhang" and probably can adjust the speed and fan for that part of the print, or at that level. I have printed perfect prints on the SE and they are usable parts. I also have a total of 26 printers, many are Creality. But the printer that is impressing me for the money and for speed and filaments of any sort, is the Kingroon KLPi. Prints Nylon, NylonX, PETG, PLA, PETG-CF with no problems with the hot end supplied. It is Klipper as well fully wifi and open source. It rivals my Bambu Lab P1S with AMS, but obviously can't have filament changes on the KLPi during the printing. Bambu Lab is superior, in how it handles overhangs, but I think that is in their printing parameters/settings and the dual part fan set up. On the KLPi I can just print a fan outlet with dual side to side cooling. I have done that on many of the Ender products.
    Anyway the cheaper of the two is fine for MOST people who do this for a hobby. I do it for work, for a private company. I bought a K1 Max and it never printed anything but PLA correctly. PETG: constant jams, stringing all over, and constant fixing the printer, with not much help from Creality as it was not a finished product. They would not take it back after them being slow to respond under warranty. I was still thinking it could be fixed just past the 3 months. It is not a professional printer at all.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  7 місяців тому

      Ah, we have two KLP1 machines here, the new 230mm sized one is nice!

  • @mnazj
    @mnazj 10 місяців тому +2

    There's a new Creality Ender 3 V3 (coreXZ), Hope you could add that to the comparison in the future. 🙏

  • @deus164
    @deus164 10 місяців тому +2

    Ni ce video. I've pull the trigger for the KE version few days ago.
    By the way SE sheet is PC (polycarbonate)

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +2

      Thanks and my mistake! That is definitely not PEI!

  • @genemaster74
    @genemaster74 7 місяців тому +2

    G'day m8....i just picked up the SE from a electronics chain here in Australia (today) for about $140usd, i Paid $249aud. i have the Ender 3v2 i started on in 2020, now its getting on in age, so in the last 8 months i picked up a Kywoo Tycoon Max, a Neptune 4 pro (won in xmas comp) and now i picked up the Ender 3v3 SE. My V2 im gonna retire her for now as we are in this new high speed printing age and i could do with the space it takes. Big Cheers on the well layed out vid, you came across very easy to understand, from A M8 Downunder🙃

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  7 місяців тому +2

      Very cool! Cheers!

    • @thedronedownunder3919
      @thedronedownunder3919 7 місяців тому +3

      I'm a total noob and saw the $249 for the SE @ Jaycar. Thinking this might be a nice way to start off.

    • @genemaster74
      @genemaster74 7 місяців тому +3

      @@thedronedownunder3919 im in Brisbane m8.....and if ya starting...... this is very noob friendly printer,,,plenty of upgrades to print for this printer..cheers

    • @ExposeClothing
      @ExposeClothing 7 місяців тому

      @@genemaster74 Hey im from perth and wanting to print molds for concrete and plaster casting. Before going ahead and buying is there a way your able to tell is cement has any reaction with the standard PLA material? id hate to spend $279 on the printer for a single purpose then find out it cant be used for what i plan on doing lol.

    • @genemaster74
      @genemaster74 7 місяців тому

      @@ExposeClothing G'day from Brisbane.....ive not much info on the process your after.....but i would suggest looking up printed molds on youtube....there is plenty as thay have poped up in my feed, hopefully someone there can guide you on your printing journey. Kind regards A M8 Downunder

  • @TheCodeTinkerer
    @TheCodeTinkerer Місяць тому +1

    I saw an Ender 3 V2 with an added laser 5W accessory. I has only been used once and the seller only wants USD 71 for it.
    Would this be a better buy for a newbie, than going for a V3 SE, even though you are missing out on the ABL feature, which would cost about 2,5x more?
    My line of thought is that I would like to learn in the cheapest fashion, so "quality" isn't my main concern.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  Місяць тому +1

      I wouldn’t recommend the V2 over the SE or KE, they are better and newer experiences. That is a great price, but it may bring frustrations, while that SE or KE will be awesome.

  • @burnbarrelnetwork4013
    @burnbarrelnetwork4013 3 місяці тому +1

    Very helpful as my local dealer has 4 different ender models in the 130-250 range and is really confusing. I see a v2 model too but assuming it’s an older model. Iam leaning towards the k2 and appreciate your input.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  3 місяці тому

      V2s are a bit older for sure, I don't think you can go wrong with any of the V3s or the K1 or K2 models!

  • @danielcervantes7826
    @danielcervantes7826 9 місяців тому +6

    I really like the SE for simplicity and intuitiveness for beginners especially, along with the analog handle as opposed to touch screen.

  • @californiasomething
    @californiasomething 10 місяців тому +1

    you can restrict access by installing moonraker and fluidd/mainsail and uninstalling the creality interface. you can do this using guilouz's k1/max script tool.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +1

      Yup, it’s linux, you can do anything, including install and play Doom. BUT, that is NOT for 99% of the buyers who will use this machine. It should have permissions enabled by default.

  • @Alen.88
    @Alen.88 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the video. Just the one that I needed to see. I initially wanted to buy A1, but KE seems to be right choice now.,

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +1

      KE is a great machine for the price!!!

    • @Alen.88
      @Alen.88 10 місяців тому +1

      @@LoyalMosesThank you

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      Very welcome!

  • @cheesyandy1
    @cheesyandy1 3 місяці тому +2

    Wi-fi/networking is the big difference surely? As someone new to 3d printing I can't believe that mucking about with SD cards is the standard and that printers don't have an ethernet port as standard.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  3 місяці тому

      It’s really not that big of a deal, especially with the state of their networking features, where many still have trouble discovering printers on the network and you have to walk over and get the IP address first, and even then, you still need to check the printer is clear for a print and collect/clean afterwards.
      Bambu has the best network user experience right now, and we hope others catch up.

  • @LacasseEric
    @LacasseEric 10 місяців тому +1

    I wonder what kind of performance you'd get out of an Ender 3 V3 SE on which you've installed Klipper on. The difference would be limited by the V-Rollers and hotends.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      Hey Eric! We can always find out! :-)

    • @LacasseEric
      @LacasseEric 10 місяців тому

      @@LoyalMoses Have I found a use for the BTT pad besides playing Doom? 🤣

  • @hasanogulcan1926
    @hasanogulcan1926 6 місяців тому

    I'm going with SE. And I would say I'm so satisfied with it. So for so good. No chronic problem. New release printer. Everything so smooth and working fine. Thank you for your comparison.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  6 місяців тому

      The SE is such a good machine, I really like it!

  • @radiofan2454
    @radiofan2454 2 місяці тому

    Which printer is quieter? I have an old Ender 3 Pro that is super quiet, a Ender 3 Max that is mostly quiet, and a K1 that is very noisy. This may seem odd, but the main thing I'm looking for is a quiet printer for use in an area where excessive noise is an issue. I'm willing to put up with a bit slower printer if it's virtually noiseless.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  2 місяці тому

      The quietest printer out there right now is the Bambu Lab A1, that thing is CRAZY quiet with their noise canceling algorithm! The motion system on this is very quiet, but of course the faster you go the cooling gets louder.

    • @radiofan2454
      @radiofan2454 2 місяці тому

      @@LoyalMoses Thanks! Between the Creality Ender-3 SE and KE which do you think is quieter?

  • @Superkuh2
    @Superkuh2 5 місяців тому +1

    Can you print to either of these printers over a USB cable from the host computer?

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  5 місяців тому

      Most printers you can, yes -- I did not test that with either of these machines so I would hate to give you the wrong answer!

  • @TurboThailand
    @TurboThailand 2 місяці тому

    I have have around 20 Ender 3/pro/V2 & now backed off to only 2. However, after 6 years of my 2 machines going 24 hours I'm looking at something more reliable where I could do 4 similar prints reliably on the plate rather than currently my failure rate (approx 9%) is too risky to run 4x 8hour prints one one plate. I have replaced every part multiple times and run SKR boards. Would you recommend the KE for my use? My current prints are basically "cups" of which I print 30-60 at a run. Currently on my old ender 3s at 60mm/s it takes 8-10 hours to make one. If I could (again, reliably) print at say 100-150mm/s and print 4 on a plate at a time I'm shooting at 12-15 hours for 4 completed. Sound about right? It is difficult getting them and specific parts here in Thailand but if they are reliable and don't need huge maintenance I'm cool with that. My enders currently need either nozzle/throat/extruder cog/ replaced usually once to twice a month with belts/wheels/PTFE replaced bi-monthly. I converted 1 to duel Z & direct drive but haven't got it tuned well enough yet to produce sellable products.

  • @robert0joe
    @robert0joe 8 місяців тому +1

    Currently on my country I can get KE for $250, the SE for $179. I initially was looking at the SE but when I checked that it doesn't do ABS, I've considered the KE. This is my first time buying a 3D printer. I wanted to have the ability to do ABS so I wouldn't have the need buy another 3D printer down the line. Is ABS printing worth-it? Also what does it mean that I'll need an enclosure for ABS printing? Thanks!

    • @TommyMoreels77
      @TommyMoreels77 8 місяців тому +1

      I bought the KE after a few months without beer. What I saved was worth the difference to be honest, and made my liver happy!😏

    • @charlieross-BRM
      @charlieross-BRM 8 місяців тому

      Does the final product HAVE TO BE ABS? I mean chemically is that essential. There are advanced blends of performance filaments I print on a tiny original 2018 Ender. For example Form Futura TitanX. No stink, enclosure optional. Post print It can't be be solvent smoothed or welded with acetone but that could be a benefit or a deficit property to some people.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  8 місяців тому

      Those aren’t bad prices!

  • @MarcusMaketh
    @MarcusMaketh 10 місяців тому +1

    Dude, very informative thanks 🙏

  • @SimonCools1
    @SimonCools1 Місяць тому

    spending the bit of extra money on the KE was well worth it for me. You get the ability to print ABS if desired and the network capability saves me so much hassle. Just slice and send it over network.

  • @furquan2792
    @furquan2792 4 місяці тому

    I have the budget for KE but the thing is i also have my eyes on CNC 3018 desktop router which i can get alongside SE but its one time purchase so should i get the better printer and cnc can wait or go for both SE and CNC?!!

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  4 місяці тому

      I don't believe there is a HUGE difference between the KE and SE as far as results. Speed, yes, but not really in print quality.

  • @serefdincer
    @serefdincer 10 місяців тому +1

    Hello , I never used a 3D printer. I have got two options one is KE other one ise K1. Which one do you recommend I buy?

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      Oh, that's a tough one! The K1 is a great machine and so is the KE! I feel like the K1 is going to be a better printer in the long run, but either is a great choice for a new user.

    • @serefdincer
      @serefdincer 10 місяців тому +1

      @@LoyalMoses Thank you for the answer, I think I will buy K1 or wait for V3, it was very difficult to decide.

  • @3dPrintedTradingPost
    @3dPrintedTradingPost 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video keep them coming. Do you think these printers are better than the elgoo Neptune 4 series printers? Also would you recommend going with one of these more budget printers like the creality or elgoo, or saving a little bit more and getting a A1 series printer. Mainly talking about general speed, quality, and reliability.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  9 місяців тому

      Thank you so much! I think you'll have the best experience with a Bambu machine. It is the best user and print experience that exists. Outside of that, I really like the Neptunes A LOT!

    • @3dPrintedTradingPost
      @3dPrintedTradingPost 9 місяців тому

      @@LoyalMoses Awesome, thanks for the response I appreciate it.

  • @lindamiller4344
    @lindamiller4344 5 місяців тому +1

    Are both of these two color machines? I’m very new still

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  5 місяців тому

      No, these are single color machine.

  • @JasonRobards2
    @JasonRobards2 6 місяців тому +1

    I wonder if they have fixed the clogging problem. It always baffled me how much of the printer was left for the customer to "tweak" (or fix rather). It basically left us to beta test the product. Oddly, while their customer support was outsourced as well, to youtubers looking for content.
    So many things stupid desing flaws are/were left to the user who then had to rely on unreliable sources to fix them. I believe we are past the novelty stage for 3D printing where this is an acceptable business practice. Half a year ago I bought a resin printer in the same price range and was amazed how much reliable that machine is. At the same time, it is so well made that I can't see how I could "tweak" the thing. Turns out other printers don't need the fixing a Creality needs.
    I would be tempted to try the V3, as I was very happy with the V2. However, when I inevitably ran into a problem I could not fix myself, I experienced how utterly useless the Creality customer support is. The machine is now dead and I have no way to fix it. And I hate to spend this amount of money on something that could become unfixable.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  6 місяців тому

      Absolutely! Times have changed, and they are all working on improving support and the out of box user experience is so much better than it was just a year ago!

  • @maanabeadailisan2810
    @maanabeadailisan2810 7 місяців тому +1

    Hello im an entry level in 3d printing? what should i get the ke or the se?

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  7 місяців тому

      I’d likely recommend the SE, it’s a GREAT experience. Also, welcome in!

  • @Luna-tk3cu
    @Luna-tk3cu 9 місяців тому

    Hello! I have 2 questions, please can you be so kind and help me 🙂😇
    1) If you have to choose one of those printers ,which one you think is the best in your opinion?
    2) I used a Cookiecad PLA filament 1.75mm for cookie cutters (but that brand is to expensive for me right now, can you recommend me one brand similar?, please 🥺
    Thank you.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  8 місяців тому +1

      SE for anyone and the KE for those that want speed and tinkering!
      Polymaker is the brand I will always recommend, been using them for years!

  • @krispy5139
    @krispy5139 Місяць тому

    Wonder if the Elegoo Neptune 4 pro is better?

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  Місяць тому

      Neptune 4 machines have been great for me!

  • @BigAirr.
    @BigAirr. 7 місяців тому +1

    very informative video greatly appreciate it!

  • @Maximalisms
    @Maximalisms 10 місяців тому +1

    the ke has a pei sheet but the SE comes with a not as textured-but not smooth PC build sheet, polycarbonate and not pei

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      Yup, I caught that later - it's a PC plate.

  • @RBarbosa-z5t
    @RBarbosa-z5t 6 місяців тому +1

    Which one is worth it I just used the kobra 2 neo
    1. Artillery Sidewinder X3 Pro: ~300 x 300 x 400 mm
    2. ELEGOO Neptune 3 Pro: 225 x 225 x 280 mm
    3. Voxelab Aquila D1: 235 x 235 x 250 mm
    4. Anycubic Kobra 2 Neo: 250 x 220 x 220 mm
    5. Creality Ender 3 V3 SE: ~220 x 220 x 250 mm
    6. Creality Ender 3 V2 Neo: 220 x 220 x 250 mm
    7. Creality Ender 3: 220 x 220 x 250 mm
    8. Tronxy Crux 1: 180 x 180 x 180 mm

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  6 місяців тому +1

      The ELEGOO is a great machine, also the V3 SE is a really food machine too.

  • @dimitristripakis7364
    @dimitristripakis7364 22 дні тому +1

    Is PLA safe for indoors ?

  • @ayo3Dprint_lombok
    @ayo3Dprint_lombok 9 місяців тому

    i just curious about the filament laying on the back, is it okay to put it like that ? or did u have some problem after that ? like fragile and stringy? thanks

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  9 місяців тому

      I am in a low humidity area, so it is okay for me.

  • @beatooze8025
    @beatooze8025 2 місяці тому

    Could tell the difference by the KE not having the knob on the side screen.

  • @WARPAINTandUnicorns
    @WARPAINTandUnicorns 10 місяців тому +4

    The funny thing is a lot of cosplayers print in grey so that when they do the body fills and spray primers they can see the flaws they need to sand down more. 🤣

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      Exactly! It shows EVERYTHING! 😳

  • @foreignsleet
    @foreignsleet 10 місяців тому +2

    me looking at 3d printer comparisons and reviews knowing full well I just bought a P1S and dont have the money/space for another printer

  • @andrewspencer7042
    @andrewspencer7042 10 місяців тому

    Hi what do you think about the max acceleration speeds on the se being 4000 for x,y,z and e

  • @doktorfige
    @doktorfige 5 місяців тому +1

    Thx, SE will do enough for me for now.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  5 місяців тому

      Awesome! It’s a great machine and you can’t beat that price!

  • @guff3163
    @guff3163 7 місяців тому

    Where can I get the filament warning device so I can attach it to the SE?

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  7 місяців тому +1

      They sell them on their website, filament runout sensors

  • @Danny-je1vz
    @Danny-je1vz 7 місяців тому

    Which of the two printers operates more quietly?

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  7 місяців тому +1

      Hmmm… I cannot recall for sure, I think the KE was louder.

  • @aldrin.sarmiento
    @aldrin.sarmiento 4 місяці тому

    my first is the SE now i got also the KE instead of the bambu lab a1 mini bc idk anything about the bambu lab ecosystem 😅 maybe in the future I will consider to try bambu lab

  • @ASAN
    @ASAN 6 місяців тому

    Very Informative, Thanks Bro

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  6 місяців тому

      You are so welcome! Thank you for watching.

  • @Domcaa12
    @Domcaa12 Місяць тому

    What about KE 3D , is it the same ?

  • @vincylobo261
    @vincylobo261 10 місяців тому

    Hi, loved the vid. Have u heard of the newly planned ender 3 v3, not se or ke just flat ender 3 v3

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! We’ll have that machine soon for content.

  • @TheWrendre
    @TheWrendre 7 місяців тому +1

    I did guess right, I've seen the KE and SE often enough to know the difference is in the Print head. KE has the fan exposed.

  • @Mar-gv4eq
    @Mar-gv4eq 3 місяці тому

    I’m making this decision today! I’m a beginner so I think the se might be the move for me..butttt the KE looks like it has some nice upgrades..tough decision

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  3 місяці тому

      So exciting! Both are great machines!

    • @Mar-gv4eq
      @Mar-gv4eq 3 місяці тому +1

      @@LoyalMoses ended up going with the SE, thank you for this review, it was very detailed and answered a lot of questions!

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  3 місяці тому

      Congratulations!!! Great choice!

  • @vica153
    @vica153 7 місяців тому

    So for the KE you're really paying ~70 extra for a filament runnout sensor and better interface options (touch screen and wifi). The temperature and speed "upgrades" of the KE are not really something most people are going to utilize, especially without an enclosure.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  7 місяців тому

      It being a Klipper machine is quite the difference too.

    • @vica153
      @vica153 7 місяців тому

      @@LoyalMoses Sure, but again it's not really something most people will notice.

  • @skeetarus
    @skeetarus 7 місяців тому +1

    It drives me batty that Creality don't include touchscreen and wifi loading on all their machines.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  7 місяців тому +1

      I know what you mean, but they are slowly getting there! Let's hope they can improve upon this in 2024!

  • @kiefervandenberg
    @kiefervandenberg 10 місяців тому +2

    Yes I guessed right from the extruder coverings

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      Nice guess then! 🔥

  • @smitdmello8323
    @smitdmello8323 8 місяців тому

    Can ender v3 se use abs filament ?
    Have u tried it

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  8 місяців тому

      You could do ABS on it for sure, be careful with drafts and use an adhesive on the bed.

  • @jaumeg.
    @jaumeg. 9 місяців тому

    Which one do you recommend kp3s pro v2 or ender 3 ke?

  • @H0mework
    @H0mework 2 місяці тому

    Creality refurbished on eBay has SE for $95 and KE for $130 before taxes. Happy with the SE but for clipper, speed and networking it's a no brainer. Wish you compared the speeds, I think I heard KE is 30% faster.

  • @dcktater7847
    @dcktater7847 4 місяці тому

    The difference in my country is only 60 bux. ABS can be printed without enclosure these days maybe even nylon....i really contemplate buying the KE...it's just more possibilites...

  • @jirka8964
    @jirka8964 4 місяці тому +1

    Whats better ender 3 v3 se or ender 3 v3 ke

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  4 місяці тому

      The KE is faster for sure, the SE is simple and really good. The KE will require more attention to detail for tuning.

    • @jirka8964
      @jirka8964 4 місяці тому

      @@LoyalMoses what is the best 3d printer to 300 usd?

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  4 місяці тому

      Bambu Lab A1 is the closest to that price and the best experience right now in 3D printing.

  • @luistiago5121
    @luistiago5121 10 місяців тому +42

    V3 SE is the way to go for beginners to print PETG/PLA/TPU. The KE and the new whatever CoreXZ V3 make no sense. If you want print ABS,ASA and other advanced materials buy an already enclosed corexy fast printer.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +10

      Great points!

    • @3DandTeePrinting
      @3DandTeePrinting 10 місяців тому +14

      The V3 CORE XZ is a GREAT machine and DOES print ABS/ASA in an enclosure ($39 on Amazon). It is printing BETTER than both my 1st edition and second edition K1s. My SE and KE don't hold a candle to the REAL V3 (core xz). I have been printing non stop with it for last 3 days not one failure. I would HIGHLY recommend the V3 core XZ over the KE or SE anyday.
      EDIT: I have to change my tune. The KE is the supreme of the three V3. Bang for Buck Hands Down. The CORE XZ yes is faster (by minutes not hours) but honestly the quality is a little better on the KE. And for more then $100 difference you are better off with the KE.

    • @dwil9743
      @dwil9743 10 місяців тому +1

      I bought the k1. It was trash I’m now trying to go back to a ended 3 with enclosure to print carbon fiber lol

    • @Quettesh
      @Quettesh 9 місяців тому

      The lack of network connectivity on SE is a deal-breaker for me.

    • @Cms-rl3wo
      @Cms-rl3wo 7 місяців тому +1

      Some of us don't have 600 dollars for a printer though

  • @srlacotista3252
    @srlacotista3252 7 місяців тому

    sorry mate but you should have mention all the features like camera option,the cloud, calibration, and test different speed bench.Maybe you wanted to keep it simple for new ones at 3d printing and i get it, its just an observation

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  7 місяців тому

      Then you get it! Simple for those just getting into printing!

    • @srlacotista3252
      @srlacotista3252 7 місяців тому +1

      @@LoyalMoses yeah i got it, didnt wanted to sound like a hater i mean it was still a good job overall, sorry if my message was harsh in any moment and i apologize if you felt insulted. You are a cool YT

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  7 місяців тому

      Thank you!

  • @KasarReis
    @KasarReis 10 місяців тому

    should i get cr-10 se or ender 3 v3 corexy

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  7 місяців тому

      Not used a CR-10, but the V3 is a nice machine!

  • @dack4545
    @dack4545 10 місяців тому +1

    The thing is Bro if you want 4 KE,s V,s 4 SE,s it's going to cost more but not if you get a Sonic pad for 4 SE,s I'd take the 4 SE,s with a Sonic pad over 4 KE,s 👍🇦🇺

  • @dyc2107
    @dyc2107 10 місяців тому

    I personally don't like ender3 style machines v wheels are ancient technology, off topic question, what's your favorite filament brand ?

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      Polymaker and Bambu are my sponsors, and I specifically brought them on board because I love their filament. Also like Amolen.

  • @The3DPrintingGrandad
    @The3DPrintingGrandad 10 місяців тому +1

    If you manage your WiFi router, you can restrict access in it.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      It’s not about me, tech isn’t an issue, it’s about the average buyer, they don’t know to do it, or how even if they did know.

    • @The3DPrintingGrandad
      @The3DPrintingGrandad 10 місяців тому

      @@LoyalMoses which was my point. If someone is concerned, they should look up how to route traffic on their router. Every manufacturer's interface is a little different.

    • @The3DPrintingGrandad
      @The3DPrintingGrandad 10 місяців тому

      @@LoyalMoses I'm glad you mentioned this. I was trying to encourage those who do enabled the WiFi to consider managing there WiFi traffic.

    • @The3DPrintingGrandad
      @The3DPrintingGrandad 10 місяців тому

      I highly recommend putting these kinds of devices on an IoT network and you other devices on another network.
      If the user will do some research they can figure it out.

  • @auroraRealms
    @auroraRealms 10 місяців тому

    Yeh, I see the v wheels. So no. If you are looking for a quiet printer, great. For performance and reliabilty I would only consider the KE. Sovol SV06 and SV06 plus are basicly Prusa clones, at better prices than Crealty or Prusa. The Sovol's do need a larger y-axis motor drop in replacement immediately, which costs about $20.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      Sovol makes great machines!

  • @soniccinos
    @soniccinos 7 місяців тому

    Well I would never consider the KE.... for me or it's the V3 SE, or go straight to the K1... I can't see any reason to choose the KE....

  • @ragesmirk
    @ragesmirk 10 місяців тому

    I have the KE. The gantry of the printer isn't strong enough to hold the filament spool 🧵 and print with such speeds. To be honest I wouldn't recommend it to people new to 3D printing. At such speeds you need input shaping sensors

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      I haven’t experienced it being not strong enough, we’ve ran it quite fast and it wiggles, but was fine.

  • @scaresandsparks
    @scaresandsparks 5 місяців тому

    I had an original ender3 and then a V3 SE. I was sick of the endless fiddling to keep it running so I got a bambulab A1. Best thing I ever did. Ender3's suck.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  5 місяців тому

      That A1 is an awesome machine! Congrats!

  • @The3DPrintingGrandad
    @The3DPrintingGrandad 10 місяців тому +1

    Why would anybody settle for a thumb wheel screen today.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      They work, just prefer better now days.

  • @arbjful
    @arbjful 7 місяців тому +1

    I think I will go with the KE, $80 isn’t much of a difference

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  7 місяців тому

      It’s a great machine!

    • @arbjful
      @arbjful 7 місяців тому

      @@LoyalMoses what do you think of the CR-10? The print mill?

  • @shanechristiansen38
    @shanechristiansen38 10 місяців тому +1

    I really enjoy how you emphasize the positives and explain how they shine in their respective price range compared to more expensive printers, and that they still have a place in the home.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you Shane! That’s exactly what I am trying to do. 💜

  • @user-2df90a0z1
    @user-2df90a0z1 10 місяців тому

    The $80 for the ke is well worth it. If you were to upgrade the SE into KE it would cost much more.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +1

      Definitely! The reason I don’t just simple recommend the KE over the SE is because $80 is a lot of money to many people, and the SE is still a great machine!

  • @1981AdamGs
    @1981AdamGs 10 місяців тому +3

    Really nice comparison.
    Creality is terrible at naming their printers though. 😂

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +2

      Wait until the 4 V3 K SE V2! 😉 Thanks!

  • @kirtandrews1859
    @kirtandrews1859 6 місяців тому +1

    Hi completely novice here fresh of the boat. I'm a jeweller. I'd like to be able to dram ny own designs pendants rings etc. Can I send that to the printer ? Also does it support the cameras that creality have ? . Also what is the footprint of this beast ? . Finaly sorry for so many questions and sorry if there stupid I'm brand new. Is there somewhere emthat teaches 3d printers? You know like a ecdl for windows. Is there a online course for beginners for learning how to 3d print etc ? Thank you sorry if my questions are dumb. But I gotta learn

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  6 місяців тому

      Absolutely you can print jewelry, etc - depending on the type you should also consider resin printing, you may find it more intricate and dynamic for that. Join our discord and ask all the questions!

  • @cashmerethepup
    @cashmerethepup 8 місяців тому

    these or v3

  • @3DandTeePrinting
    @3DandTeePrinting 10 місяців тому

    You forgot to mention the WIGGLY rods and leaning gantry on BOTH KE and SE. The METAL Gantry is secured to a METAL plate that is attached to the PLASTIC base. The gantrys start to lean forward or backwards (speeds up the processes with the spool mounted on top) which causes the Nozzle to drag across the infill. Some people are compensating by increasingly Z hop but the problem still exists.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +2

      Why would I mention other people’s problems that I haven’t experienced? I don’t carry anyone else’s baggage, and share MY experiences, which have been absolutely great.

    • @3DandTeePrinting
      @3DandTeePrinting 10 місяців тому +1

      @LoyalMoses Fair point. If YOU haven't had any issues with the prints you have done your right it's your channel and your free to say how YOU feel about the machines. Everyone's entitled to thier opinions and view points. I just prefer to speak about the noise going on around me rather than ignore it. Before we end up with iteration #4 of the SE like we are on with the K1 aka K1C.

  • @kroniclemma
    @kroniclemma 9 місяців тому

    This difference maker for me is Klipper. Marlin is hell

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  8 місяців тому

      It’s getting more popular.

  • @RickCarroll-j5n
    @RickCarroll-j5n 10 місяців тому +3

    Thanks to my autism I noticed differences

  • @MultiMakers3D
    @MultiMakers3D Місяць тому

    both printers are really good 👍 because Creality always makes good stuff

  • @MisterkeTube
    @MisterkeTube 10 місяців тому

    Why are you hammering on things being controllable from your local network? If you let someone onto your LAN, that's like inviting them into your house. So, then they could of course also drink your whiskey. Much more dangerous is the cloud component as that allows an entity from outside your LAN to now do stuff to your printer and possibly opens a door for them to do all sorts of other stuff in your LAN.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      100% incorrect. These machines are in schools, and on business networks in addition to homes.
      I spent 20+ years in information security, and the vast majority of security incidents are from the trusted side of the network. Meaning, compromised internally.
      Imagine if submarines didn’t have compartments, and only focused on the external hull keeping water out. One small leak, ultimately sinks the entire sub.
      If an attacker makes it into a network, they should not automatically have full access to everything.
      Each device on a network should be properly secured, just like routers and servers have proper permissions enabled.

    • @MisterkeTube
      @MisterkeTube 10 місяців тому

      @@LoyalMoses A user-id and password aren't a decent security and social engineering is still the most effective hacking method for attacking companies. Sure, in environments as you mention, further segregation of the networks is wanted to add another layer of security, but for home use all those IOT devices added to people's LANs and "phoning home" are way more scary. And honestly, if I can get onto your LAN and sufficiently eavesdrop, send and manipulate packets, a user-id and password won't save you. Once in, the cracks in the various networked operating systems can be widened slowly, but surely.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      I was a professional hacker for more than a decade of that 20+ years in infosec, the other was spent developing intrusion detection systems. ;-)

  • @micver1091
    @micver1091 7 місяців тому +1

    A..b.s. ore petg.
    Are almost the strength.
    And if you build 5 wals .
    From your slicer settings in Cura.
    Whit a 15. Procent infill.
    Al your print.s wil rock.🎉
    A use the .se.and even print bal BEARINGS.
    So nice to have that option.
    Verry useful prints come of the s.e. .
    And most of the time a print at 200 mms.
    If you petg you goth to always slow down your print.
    The print speed is also very depended of the material you use.
    The filliment sensor yeah nice.
    Bud if your print stops.
    Better is to make a new print.
    They dont say that to new user.s.
    Just to let you by the k.e.
    A Little upgrade om the s.e. is possible.
    And you have bigger build volume.
    And a lineair rail if you want that.

  • @Tf34233
    @Tf34233 6 місяців тому +1

    I was wrong at guessing

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  6 місяців тому +1

      They are both really good machines!

  • @stephenyoder2822
    @stephenyoder2822 5 місяців тому

    There is a good deal 169 for the se

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  5 місяців тому

      THAT IS A GREAT PRICE! WOW!

  • @egill710
    @egill710 8 місяців тому +1

    Awesome shirt

  • @Boodster61
    @Boodster61 10 місяців тому +1

    I got it right only because I own the SE

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому

      Was easy to spot for ya! AWESOME!

  • @AxleWegmen
    @AxleWegmen 4 дні тому +1

    I got it right because I got a KE

  • @bigfella6629
    @bigfella6629 3 місяці тому +1

    yes, I guessed right.

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  3 місяці тому

      AWESOME! Nice attention to detail!

  • @ctbob7635
    @ctbob7635 9 місяців тому

    All of what you said plus WIFI for the KE win..and for a measly $100 more.. still an entry level machine. Of course if yer still living at home on ma and pops neck, a 100.00 is still a tidy sum... Cheers

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  8 місяців тому

      Absolutely, $100 is an important difference!

  • @Fakeboi-e5f
    @Fakeboi-e5f 2 місяці тому +2

    Love the Fortnite font

  • @Thekidisalright
    @Thekidisalright 9 місяців тому +1

    Or just get the Bambu Lab A1 lol

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  9 місяців тому +1

      Crazy how prices are changing everything!

    • @kirk595x
      @kirk595x 3 місяці тому

      I've had nothing but issues with my KE. Maybe just got a lemon, but it definitely struggles with petG. Just got the A1, and it is better in everyway imo.

  • @JayEm16
    @JayEm16 10 місяців тому +1

    My guy!!!

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +1

      JAY! How are you?!

    • @JayEm16
      @JayEm16 10 місяців тому +1

      @@LoyalMosesGood brotha! Stayed up late as i could last night watch stream haha love your content it inspires me to print and explore creating!!

    • @LoyalMoses
      @LoyalMoses  10 місяців тому +1

      Awesome! That makes me super happy!